The Truth Behind Avenue Suspension Trucks
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Today we will be reviewing an entirely new type of skateboard truck: suspension trucks from Avenue Trucks! I've seen these online a lot and the design is wild, so I had to try these out and see for myself if they actually work!
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I ride the avenue since 5 years now, never I will go back to the old system ! This Trucks change Skateboarding in a good way 💎🙌
Hallo aus Amerika! Ich glaube dass du klingst Deutsch, wenn du Englisch schreibst. Habe ich recht?
Ich weiß dass ich die gegenteilige Fehler mache, wenn ich versuche Deutsch zu sprechen.
Zb: "ich reite Avenue seit fünf Jahre" soll "i have ridden Avenue trucks for 5 years now" sein.
Sorry if I sound rude. I am constantly noticing that I use English grammar in German, and the wrong prepositions often. Saw the opportunity to maybe make a language exchange connection. Es tut mir leid, wenn ich wie mein klinge.
awesome to hear!!!!
thats epic i wannan use them so bad i remember when they came out and lance silber that used to be at braille rode them
oh this is awesome! Amazing review Jason, thank you so much for supporting the brand! We are so happy you gave em a shot. We have spent years tweaking these trucks to perfect their design and truly hope the skate community realizes we will continue to make these trucks better everytime. Mahalo!
I work at a indoor skatepark here in Sweden and want to add these trucks to one of our boards that we lend out so people can try them. I want the gen 2 8.5 but can't find them in Sweden...
I know that shops in Germany such as @blackriver_official has them...best regards
i've nearly ordered several times. Once you were out of generation 2 so i waited. Looks really sweet.
Do you guys think these make more of a difference for street or tranny/pools? I want to get some to try out but don't know which board to put them on. I skate a different width for each setup.
P.S. Super cool design! Glad there is still innovation in skating.
Just wondering do I need to add shock pads for these trucks?
I'd really like to see more slides/grinds that touch the baseplate. How do nose/tail slide? Do they catch? Do they turn into razorblades when the edges file down?
Does the movement affect smiths, etc?
The nose of our baseplates are angled to allow for smooth slides and grinds, there are no hard edges when you look closely enough. Helps keep things smooth so you should have no issues!
i love innovation and what you have done here is fantastic ;) @@avenuetrucks1186
they catch very much so. spring steel is an extreamly hard metal (high carbon steel) which means if and when you do catch they WILL ruin every curb, ledge, rail and coping they come into contact with.. so unless you want to be hated by the skaters worldwide for ruining the "spot" id suggest you stick to the originals indy...
@@bumrodgers ben degros did a video on these trucks take a look
Those look pretty awesome. I think you should make a video where you try them side-by-side with a regular board. Maybe try the same kicker over sign with both? I hope we get to see some direct comparison!
That’s a great idea honestly! Will have to do a part 2 sometime with all of the ideas in the comments from you guys, thank you
this would be a great comparison tbh
my only issue is your brand has been out for four years.. every skater you have paid to do a review all have said the exact same things. they love them their friends all skate them blablabla.. i got a pair and i hated them from the drop. please stop trying to sell these to skaters... they suck and you all know it!!@@avenuetrucks1186
Im NEVER going back to regular skate trucks since I switched to avenue, waaay more speed d/t less vibrations and it seems like they help my pop d/t the spring loaded deal. Definetly worth a try considering their no more expensive than regular trucks
AWESOME! Enjoy the ride!
I just got some from a dude at work and I'm in love like holy smokes
I was sold the moment you started carving. As an old guy who likes to ride longboards and flow around parks, the problem i run into is that reverse king pin and dual pivot trucks tend to act really squirrelly going in reverse.
These seem to perform just like standard trucks, and only give you the extra tight radius when you want them to.
Thanks for the solid review!
Been skating them for many many years and fu... love them 😍🔥
As someone who's ridden these since about 2016, I'm never going back. I cannot confidently say they truly improve my skating in any way because I honestly don't track that; but I can say that to me, the feel is so much better. Carving and pumping for speed on flat is so easy and fun, and it feels so fast and smooth in transition. Honestly the area I found they shined the most was on brick. The college I went to had a lot of brick patios/sidewalks and on a normal board I couldn't even ride it. With these it was like riding on rough pavement with normal trucks.
Glad you liked them! I definitely recommend bringing them to a bowl to pump around!
Awesome!!
Jason, you left out a couple important considerations when it comes to choosing trucks: how heavy are they, and how does the grind feel?
100% agree that I should’ve covered them in this video! I was just distracted by how they felt and focused on the other points - other comments mention they’re heavier, but I legit didn’t notice and I’ll admit I wasn’t even paying attention to that aspect. As far as grinds, I only did a few off camera but they felt really good - however I didn’t do any slides at all, and I’m not sure if the shape of the baseplate would be an issue for slides. Definitely would love to do a part 2 to this video and cover weight/grinds/slides!
@@JasonParkSucks thanks for the reply! Your first video was great anyway of course and I’d love to see a sequel!
Hell yeah, let’s see some grinds and slides. I’m interested to see how they do.
Is there a maximum recommended weight limit to skating these trucks, I weigh around 100kg, which is around 220lb or over 15 stone. I skate with soft wheels and a soft riser pad to lessen the impact on my aging joints. This invention seems like it will give me a few more years skateboarding, or reduce injuries (i.e., I can skate harder street wheels again or something).
They sound perfect for you. I know some older guys (around 50) with joint problems and they say Avenue trucks really help them...
@@mr.hofbauer Excellent, thanks. Obviously I am losing weight, but not fast enough to get down to my ideal weight. I'm trying to see if I can get them in the UK, so far not.
I have the gen 2 trucks. Smoothest ride ive ever built, and the pop is phenomenal. My only complaint is that practicing flip tricks reduces the lifespan a LOT when the board lands primo. Other than that, best trucks ive ever bought
does it bend them, or something, from the primos? Thanks for the feedback
@phakoo23 it causes the kindpin housing to crack from the shock, and sometimes the bushing housing too. Granted, the gen 2's have only broken around the bushing housing, but the gen 1 can break both ways. This is all anecdotal btw, so your experience will vary if you get them. Ive gone through 4 sets in about 5 years of heavy skating
Those seem like worth trying. Especially for really crusty ground.😊👍
They work especially great on crusty ground
I skated the first Avenue trucks for at least two years. I used them for 100% street skating, and I really enjoyed them. The downside with the gen 1 version of the trucks was that they were a bit heavy. That was the main reason that I gave up skating them, but the gen 2 is supposed to be more light weight. I am pretty light weight myself, so I actually didn't feel the suspension effect that much. If the skater is a bit more heavy weight, the suspension effect will feel a lot more. Great review Jason! 💯
seeing how quickly you adapted to these trucks really speaks volume on your skill level.
I got those trucks when they kickstarted and rode them for over 4 years on both generations, but ended up back on regular truck as I broke two pairs of hangars (same spot around the bushing loop) and another pair to broken king pins. Got too costly to import them and the durability wasn't as long as normal trucks.
I do miss the smoother ride for cruising, just couldn't hold up over time
The speed of them is what blew me away
Hello, what do you think about those trucks and bowlriding?
Ty.
Please do more reviews like this 😍
, I've had Avenue trucks on all my setups for years absolutely love them wish the Magnesium would come in wider sizes
I've been skating since 1999. The level of your creativity and style blows my mind. Solid attitude, definitely one of my favorites for sure! You tha man !
Dang thank you! Means a lot
That full cab flip was a thing of beauty
Well the Skate God himself liked these trucks, so of course they're good
I am older (49) and bigger (180lbs) than most truck users, so just practicing regular ollies for 20 mins is “high impact” on the old knees. Before switching to Avenue in the summer I wasn’t able to practice every day sustainably/consistently. Suspension trucks have made a huge difference! (Young ‘uns may not appreciate how high impact the sport really is - even the little drops.)
Amazing to hear! Enjoy the ride!
180 isn’t bigger than most at all. That’s about normal
I wonder if this Gen 2 trucks are anything recent, and if there are significant differences compared to what youtubers were reviewing few years back...?
I would have really liked to know 3 things if I were to buy these:
1.how tall are these trucks? The website doesn't specify it, and they look pretty tall...?
2. How heavy are they compared to the same sized thunder or indy?
3. Does the baseplate design affect doing slide tricks at all?
Yeah these are all important and I wish I had gone over them! They are a bit taller than my current Ventures, remind me about the same height as high truck models for other companies. I didn’t notice them being any heavier than a normal truck but I read comments saying they’re heavier so I might have just not noticed but they didn’t feel heavier to me. And I totally spaced on doing slide tricks! I honestly think, with everything I missed it would be worth it to do a part 2 on these. Thanks for bringing these up!
thanks for the review, i feel like they'd feel relatively sticky for grinds, especially on the lock in, but i'd have to try ;)
They're awesome for grinds. Only skating them for many many years
if they made these trucks TITANIUM with the king pin being super low for grind clearance omgahd that will be godlike
Buuuut ben degros did a review on them for grinds and slides there not that good for that, good for cruising and doing tricks and jumping down shit
Awesome but you didn’t test grinding on them.
I absolutely love these trucks change out bushings to hardcore bones
So many questions: weight comparison, wheelbite occurs?, 20 stair impact, vertical style bluntslides on round rails, options for medium and tight?, options for high, medium and low height?
Gen2 is lighter for sure. I get wheelbite all the time because they're super flowy (like a surfskate) when they are loose- so I just always wax the wheelwells Reynolds style. I've never jumped a 20, but they feel great for jumping lots of things. I can do front blunts on round rails and they work great for those. I like them adjusted medium-very loose, but the faster I go I like to tighten them up. I have honestly no idea about heights, but i think there are only 2 models, and the baseplate is thin so you can always throw risers in there without haveing to get different hardware. OVERALL- the best feature of my skateboard is this truck brand, and flowing parks feels so fast and rad. Highly recommend!
Bro I was the kid in the back😂
If you put these trucks on the new Andy Anderson deck does it unlock unlimited special bar? YOWZA!
with dragon wheels and these trucks, on a flight deck, you magically get transported to skate heaven (who remembers that secret THPS level??)
Thanks for reviewing these, I’ve been curious about them for a while. It’s cool that you can carve and gain speed, like tic-tac without raising the nose.
Best feeling trucks ever
Nice we hope you get a chance to check em out one day!
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Great breakdown
You need to slide n grind and see how the baseplates feels when sliding
they feel fine. If anything its minimal surface area to get stuck on. I like how thin it is to reduce weight.
These trucks seem super awesome. Thinking about putting the longboard ones under one of my longboards. They are even moderately priced.
Hella tempting, if I had some good places to ride, I bet they're worth it
@@phakoo23 🙌
Thanks Rotesosse! Our Longboard trucks are a lot of fun if you decide to give it a try one day. Cheers!
saucy.
I enjoyed watching you have so much fun.
I'll be on Oahu for a few weeks over the holidays. I'll find my way over to Kaneohe as often as I can on the slim chance I get to see Jason skating in person.
My favorite skatepark in the world, I go there around once a week at least! Hope you have a great trip down here and hope to run into you!
the pumping and the blunt you did was enough for me to try one, and icing also was the flip tricks thanks
Awesome
It makes no difference if this is a sponsored video or not. What happens to our Potato God's pockets is none of our business. The only person who needs to worry about Jason's pockets are him and Nana. So who gives a Shit? Just enjoy the fact that our Potato Hero posted a video to stimulate our feeble minds. Love you Potato Jesus! 🎉
Your pop looks pretty good to me.
Skated a pair of the black ones with green bushings a few setups ago. They worked well! Don’t feel like they grinded any better, but the pop id say was for sure better
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I had a pair. It does give u more pop and grinds faster. HOWEVER, i think they grind faster because they are magnesium, and my tensor mags also grind fast bc they are made of same metal. If u like tight trucks these r not for you. They feel like ur riding on a drop thru longboard with how bouncy they are but They turn like a venture. i think thryre a good novelty and wouldnt hate on someone else riding them but they’re not for me
I’m glad you made a video on these. Looks cool and worth a try 👍
As I got older I switched to Avenue trucks and they helped my knees a lot with heavy impact from landing.
Id like to see you take a set of those with you to AZ the next time you go visit. Have Jaws put those trucks through a real hell. That would be a good add for their company too, so you all may want to get paid, but that would be fun to see just what they really can endure?
Love these trucks absolutely smooth and comfortable to ride on, Les fatigue.
HEY! Suspension truck people!!! If you make the middle strap a lot thicker and put a bit of an offset to it you could make a set of these for drop through boards..... I will help you make it..... I promise we can make it work just as good as the model you've already got going just needs to be thinner and one area obviously that means an increase in thickness maybe even a little bit of buttressing but it can be done very easily
Wow.... your "warmup" flip tricks are more than 99.9% of people that actually skate will ever be able to consistently stick
why are there so few videos about these trucks?
I have the (I think?) gen 1 trucks and my verdict was that they are best for a cruiser.
pros- They turn well, and do absorb some vibration so they fit the bill for a transportation board, or maybe tricks on rougher ground. It's like the cupsole version of a truck if that makes any sense, you lose boardfeel, but maybe that's what you want.
cons- A little heavy for a regular setup, and the part of the truck that you drag when nose/tailsliding kinda digs into things because its hard metal. Sometimes risers are needed to avoid wheelbite if you ride loose trucks, and that makes them fairly tall. The vibration dampening effect makes grinds (especially crusty ones) feel a little floaty and disconnected.
Avenue suspension trucks have been around for about 8 years. One of the Revive lot rides them, Alex, I think. In fact there's a background picture of someone on the trucks in the Shredquarters, on the website main page.
hey I liked that review alot, these new avenues seem better than the first version, but I need to see them grind! how do they grind?
also do they throw you off when you land on stuff, grinds or otherwise?
would be bad if you had an effect similar to soft wheels on your board when you jump down stuff and the trucks compress and spring load into your feet, making you eat your knees.
that cab flip thoughhhh, wow !
Please let me know when you see this and I'll take it down but......... gotta say it bro.....im sorry you are so anxious you shouldn't be you are the shit and the only person that doesn't see it that way is you don't listen to negativity if that's what eats you, just remember that the people that go online to try to make other people feel bad do that because they feel really really really really bad and they want to make somebody else feel really bad because that makes their really really really really really bad feel less bad because somebody else is doing really bad.... That's all that is That's people that feel the way they're trying to meet you feel because they should feel that way trying to make you feel that way just because they want somebody else to feel that way even if that person doesn't deserve to. You rock. Quit sweating things brother
I want to buy these to put on a waterborne fin system surf adapter, I bet it would be such a great ride
My question is why don't pros ride them?? I can't name one pro skater that is sponsored by them. That gives me the impression that they must be poser trucks!! Lol
🛹I don’t know about all that stuff, but you’re a good Dude, Jason. So take that! There I said it. ((Good test video)) 🛹
I think the pop is better cause of the height of the truck compared to normal trucks. Cause the pop comes out from the tail, and with higher trucks you can get higher pop..
I'm guessing these wouldn't be recommended for higher 15-18mph speeds?
"entirely new"? Did I fall asleep last night and wake up in 2018? Old trucks are old!
They need to come out with the truck where it's like Tony hawks pro skater and you just press x and start rolling automatically lol.
How do they grind? Like smiths or feeble for example? Maybe even crooks.
Every time I see avenue trucks I think of Lance the skate God from braille
Okay well you have a short board that turns That's an improvement from the usual shortboard
I wish you had bombed a hill to test the claim that they prevent speed wobbles. Great review all the same. Thanks for putting this out there.
The bones x97 wheels bounce like that, I’ve really been digging them
Hi Jason - Can you tighten or loosen these like a regular truck? Are you still skating them?
I rather watch John hill….. love you bud but get to the point faster.
pretty good review
I wonder how grinds feel on those if it would make things like feebles harder but I bet it would make popping out of grinds easier
I wonder how long that gap will stay there between the wheels and the base? Will it eventually bend and touch the base?
ya lets see you do a set shit i bet anything over a 5 stair ur gonna get wheel bite every time no doubt
very interesting and cool i enjoy seeing different ideas and new innovations in skateboarding, thanks for sharing Jason
With the carving it looks like it handles halfway between a normal skateboard and a surfskate
not nearly as tight of turns, but the looser I skate them, they seem to get closer to that surfskate feel. I think there's a limit, and for that reason, I can't wait to get a surf adapter to try with them!
I'd want to see how grinds are with them like: ledges, rails, slappies etc
You didn't do any grinds my minge. Great review otherwise
wish I could fit these under a nickelboard
Are you still riding them, Jason?
I have a set from their Kickstarter and never skated them. If they make a 9" truck, then I may buy another.
weak human, but a beast of a potato. i would be curious to see if they last as long as other trucks, especially if somebody like jaws was using them to hit huge drops.
I want a full gimmick board.
These trucks, andy shape flight deck, nonabrasive grip, rails, idk maybe those snakestyle wheels they have on longboards
rails should not be considered a gimmick... they're legit
Doing the same except with the mbs all terrain wheels for mountain board
They do make a street size small shark wheel that isn't as heavy now. Talking gimmicks- this innovation is the best one. I'm glad it's catching on. Can't wait for them to throw flames with flint someday like the GKing ones! haha. I love the andy board i Had and the dragons wheels rule. If gimmicks make skateboarding more fun, more comfy, and more interesting, bring them on!
I ride my trucks a little on the tight side, would you say these feel loose/med/tight relative to a traditional design? I do think it's funny how skateboarding and guitar players definitely seem to reject technology advancement in the equipment. Maybe it reminds them it's a business and it breaks the counterculture illusion? I would love to set up a maximum gear-kook board with these trucks, a carbon fiber or maybe a Flight deck, and then...maybe Spitfire sapphire wheels? See how that goes over.
Yes I completely agree! They felt definitely looser compared to normal trucks, but also I didn’t tighten them at all because it didn’t feel too loose to me and the looseness made the carving more fun. For more street skating I would probably tighten them up for sure!
@@JasonParkSucks did they feel smooth on that concrete? It was my (extremely limited) experience trying to skate Wallows this summer when we were visiting that the ground there is hella rugged lol. It certainly looked pretty gnarly in the background, but it may have just been local materials looking a bit darker than Florida concrete too.
These trucks with risers and a large size dragon wheel would be a world of difference at a rough spot like that. Last summer I got to perform at a festival where the skate ramps were set up on super rough rugged pavement and the dragons+suspension was noticeably different in that I worked half as hard for my speed and it felt normal, where my old wheels/trucks felt all the vibrations.@@veritechz
@@shred-sensei That's good feedback for sure. I went from 54mm formula 4s down to the 52mm Nano Cubics recently, and while the ride is decidedly smoother in a way that's hard to articulate, the diameter change was pretty detrimental to transporting myself on actual roads in the neighborhood on my popsicle (pebbles and rough spots are a lot more significant now). I like that Powell is increasing the diameter on the nano cubics; I recently swapped my 64mm Powell Bombers down to 58mm Formula 4s on my Hosoi Hammerhead to take a bit of weight out of it, but I think I prefer the ride on that dragon formula, and may move to a set of those at some point. I'm really interested in how these trucks feel, I wish there was a way to try them out before plunking down for them.
@@veritechz if you invest in them and don’t love them you could always sell them but they feel so rad
Bro every skateboard is meant to be set up so it can wiggle pump 😅
Do they have a drop-thru version? I'd be very interested
A truck review without any grinds lol 🧐
do you see yourself making this truck your go to truck?
That would be known as carving!
no nose slide tail slide crooked grind??
Breaking the law! LOL That was a sweet idea.
How do these hold up for transition riding?
A lot of...Ongoing Purpose...XD
How to test speed wobble in a skatepark?
But how do they grind? 0_o
But how do they grind ????
ONCE YOU POP YOU CAN'T STOP
These with powell dragon wheels must feel like heaven
Just got my 3rd set of dragons (finally in green!) and you're so right on. They go ridiculously faster with those two products, but still pop like crazy and the added grip is sick.
How do they grind tho?
no grind test? sad
great video jason