@@akaouri "Picked"... with a *drill.* (EDIT: It's actually an electronic pick gun. Still not really LPL's style, though, and it tends to leave identifiable marks on the lock even though it remains usable.)
@@M90thYou To be fair, I'm not sure it's actually destructive, or if it's just being used to apply more torque than the hand could. Honestly, I'm not quite sure what that person is doing?
@@M90thYou Okay. I've looked some things up, and it wasn't exactly a drill, but an EPG, a tool that uses vibrations to accomplish something similar to a bump attack, but without being vulnerable to anti-bump pins. What he did was in principle non-destructive, although the key sticks slightly when he tries to demonstrate this, making me think he did minor damage, and in fact looking into it, EPGs do leave characteristic marks on locks. In essence, he made a paperclip into a skeleton key to get around the ward, and once it was in place he used the EPG to bump the pins open. Still, it would have been impossible to induce the proper vibrations by hand.
Combine that with jamb pins in the hinges, a hammerhead-style deadbolt (to prevent door spreader attacks) and a cowl around the thumb-turn to stymie under/over door wire/flipper attacks and security film on every window. The only way they're getting in then is with a shit-load of noise using a sledgehammer or powersaw.
The bowley lock is such a brilliant design. So simple, so effective, and yet so obvious it's surprising nobody had produced something like it until recently. A really good example of ingenuity over complexity.
It is an amazing lock, but the complexity of all the precisely assembled components makes it expensive to manufacture. So it is a risk balance playing there. Having this on your wooden door that can easily be breached by force may not be the best idea. The beefy padlock version makes more sense.
@@onradioactivewaves Bro, I am on my hands and knees here, please tell me where the chewing gum is a few cents. I've travelled throughout Europe, a small tour of japan, a dirt bike ride through the amazon, and lived primarily in America, visiting the different states over the many years. And I still can not find affordable chewing gum.
When the lockpickinglawyer can't pick it under 4 minutes it's safe. When he takes hours and still cant this is Alien grade bulletproof spaceage security level 1 Billion
It's funny though because the design isn't even that high tech, just smart. You don't need high tech if you just put a piece of metal between the pins in the keyhole.
Exactly, most street criminals aren't going to be able to touch a lock like this. And even if you get an experienced lock picker, it would still take some time and effort. Unless they know you have $1 mil in cash locked up, most people wouldn't bother with it.
@@wileecoyote5749 only works if I have windows to start with ;) some of us buried our hobbit houses for insulation savings. lol Your point is still valid for the vast majority of folks though.
I can hear his voice in my head, "And as I twist my left hand, you can see how the flakes of dried snot crumble off below my little finger... (I'll put those over here in case I might need them later), but some of the liquid goo still managed to cling to my fingernail..."
Seeing this lock on a door would say two things to the initiated: 1. There's some very valuable stuff inside. 2. Gaining access to it via the lock is not the right plan.
Pretty sure thieves debunk that myth rather quickly in their professional experience. People watching these videos are not rich guys, they're just paranoid.
@@rokask Thieves debunk what? That's an expensive lock and the average thief isn't going to pick it. They may find another way in but it likely won't be quiet or quick. Why would anyone watching these videos be paranoid? Just a bunch of guys and gals who like to pick locks. I think you may be the paranoid one here.
@@666Tomato666 Compared to the $20 Kwiksets and Yales you normally find, a Bowley is a friggin expensive lock and not one the average, or even above average, thief is going to tackle with anything smaller than a sledge hammer..
Not strictly related, but that reminds me of a story. The front door lock at my grandmothers house was so busted that we joked a burglar couldn’t get through that door if they had the key in their hand. I’d spend a good 15 seconds opening that lock, and I’ve dealt with it twice a day for the past decade. I can only imagine that if a thief tried to open the door, they’d assume they had the wrong key and keep moving. Her house has been broken into, but even with a spare key “hidden” in the world most cliche place, never in the past 50 years has someone gotten though that front door
@@absurdengineering my pop's house was the exact same. Fucking old timey locks. I remember I couldn't get into a shed that had some tools because the lock was from like the 1920s.
@@akumasstorytime3910 With my grandma’s front door you had to get all the motions and pressures just right for it to turn. Otherwise it’d almost jam up and it took great care to get the key out without breaking the key. The key was stamped out of sheet steel and had the two “wings with teeth”. The keying on the wings was asymmetric. The only way a burglar would get in would be probably busting in without a key. With the key they would get stuck on the unlocking unless they had experience with a similarly opinionated lock.
I have never once heard this guy ever say that he has not yet developed the skills necessary to nondestructively defeat the lock. Considering this dude's insanely highly developed abilities that is fucking crazy impressive.
I hope you never lose your keys. I doubt very seriously any run-of-the-mill locksmith will be able to non-destructively defeat or re-key these. That is insane craftsmanship! BRAVO Bowley.
@@TrippOnPower Even owning one, no one literally will go through the trouble of trying to open the lock, probably cheaper and faster to just break the door itself at that point. And then it has fulfilled it's purpose, a lock is suppose to make someone resort to force, which is obviously a pretty loud method of "Opening" a door.
I bought one. It is extremely high-quality. I had to give a tutorial to my ex-wife and my girlfriend who are the only ones who have keys (don't ask) but it really does give some peace of mind. Plus it's cool AF. Hats off to both the #LockPickingLawyer and Bowley.
@John Hagemann < I don't know about that key, looks a bit flimsy to me as its long U shaped protruding part with no connection at the tip to the shaft could bend given enough force in a pocket or in the keyhole. It's not a very sturdy looking thingy but maybe it is.
This is a good analogy for modern cryptography approaches in IT: security through obscurity is inferior to good design. The best encryption methods are completely open in source, just as you can take apart this lock and look into it. The strength of this lock does not derive from you not being able to look inside of it - the strength of the lock comes from being hard to open despite knowledge of its design.
Years ago - my dad worked in an office where they had a bank vault door they installed to a room made of standard 2x4 studs and drywall. Someone broke in one night and spent hours trying to cut through the door before abandoning the job. They had no idea that about 2 minutes with a sledgehammer and a hand saw would have got them through the wall next to the door and into the room.
To be fair security by obscurity is absolutely a legitimate tactic but you have to understand its uses and limitations. A lot of security is making yourself a less desirable target nowadays since there is almost always a zero day or other hole noone really knows about. But if you make yourself a pain in the ass youll get ignored most likely.
@@Sip_Dhit what do you mean? There is this lock pick (that I still don't have) called the skeleton key which doesn't break so you can spam X to Autopick and the lock will eventually open.
My jaw actually just dropped, I've never seen a lock give you trouble before I am actually considering purchasing this as I've never heard you describe a lock in this manner before lol - great job to Bowley
@@jackmanning1117 Thanos would go to snap only to find that the gauntlet has been removed from his hand, it cuts to 4 months down the line where Thanos is just watching RUclips in his cell and sees "Hey guys, it's the LockPickingLawyer and here's one I've been figuring out for a few months now. Here's how to pick the Infinity Gauntlet off of someones hand."
I think this is easily at the point where the bad guy shrugs, puts away his pick set and hauls put his sledge hammer. Great to see locks that are so different from the norm.
I think seeing a Bowley on a substantial door is when the bad guy does like one did to a friend of mine: Break into the garage, steal the chainsaw, and cut a door size hole through the back wall of the house...
I recently installed two of these on my front/back doors and I'd agree. You walk up to one of these and go "crap, where else can I break in"... ;). It's the point though, right?
I don't even think that the bad guy has lock picks to begin with. ive personally never seen it. around here they just use force. it works. Also gets them shot. thats a win in my book. I'd even go as far as to say the crooks in my city wouldn't even know what a freakin bowley lock is.
Not uncommon in countries with good locks as standard. That ANSI grade 2 hardware looked tiny compared to the hardware we use on doors with no locks. Importing foreign door mechanisms could be a major upgrade for US doors even with their weak lock cylinders.
Love it. the lock has not been picked by anyone that I know of and the company adds a second row of pins. This is how it should be proactive not reactive.
Seems to me the second row makes it easier to pick, because it opens up the front of the ward more and adds a second slot in the core. Of course, I guess you could mitigate that by having the pins at an angle other than 12 or 6 'o clock.
So this is the day we discovered LPL is human. This lock deserves the highest respect; it kept him out. Brilliant video, you explained the mechanism perfectly
well........ the concrete that was made in ancient Greece is far superior to what we have today. all of those buildings are still standing, our concrete lasts MAYBE 50 years.
After watching LPL for a while I’ve been thinking on how would I engineer a more secure lock, often fancy, over complicated and intricate contraptions; however, after seeing this design being so simple inside made me remember why I’m not an engineer and appreciate simple “out of the box” solutions are always the better choice
@@henmich not only that you could very easily go through wooden or vinyl siding, drywall and insulation with a friggin battery operated sawzall if it comes down to you wanting to get inside a house lol
@@captainfancypants4933 not in Europe though, we build houses solely from double walled stone: insulated reinforced concrete with a brick & morter outer wall. Happy sawing! Of course you could break into a window, but modern 3 layer thermopane would be very inconvenient to break and make loads of noise in doing it, let alone hurting the criminal. You only have to make your home less attractive then others around, not unbreakable, unless you've got millions of valuables inside.
Jokes on you, my walls are made of stone and all of my windows have steel bars in front of of them. Sure enough, you can cut through forged steel, but it's gonna take a while and make a lot of noise. Then you get in and the most valuable thing you find is a 400€ Laptop. Or a 280€ monitor.
I was a Marine Corps Armorer that did lock and key control for the weapon systems. I rebuilt ALL of the locks in the armory while I was there. I really appreciate your videos and learned a lot. Thank you
lol! With a blank key, and cutoff tool, and an oscillating tool, I can make it happen. Granted, everyone for quite some distance will need to be DEAF, and it'll shake the unholy hell out of the mechanism. Bring a vacuum to clean up the sawdust. ;) Also a key with an ultrasound driven keyway element, or MEMS actuator would work. Which is only practical if you have CIA level money. ;)
Because people are fucking stupid and would rather leave their door unlocked permanently than experience the slightest inconvenience. Same reason people's passwords get cracked: cuz folks are lazy, stupid, or both.
Patents, most likely. Crime not being as frequent as paranoia could also play a role. Oh, here's another one, people living in high crime areas don't have shit worth risking prison over might also work. Don't get me wrong, I watched this whole video and now I know where I'm getting my next padlock and lock for my armored doors.
Also, for real this time, it's because you can have the most genius, secure lock design possible and it still won't hold up to an angle grinder. An angle grinder doesn't give a fuck about a bowley-abloy-steel-reinforced-security-pinned lock; unless you're gonna make it out of titanium, it just cuts right through.
@@Theaikro The modern chimney is not a viable entry unless you are about the size of a racoon. In the US, a house without wood burning can have a 6 or 9 inch flue while a house that burns wood in a fireplace would likely have a 9x6 or 9x9 flue. Not really big enough for a human, and without that fireplace, you'd be hard pressed to find a way out of the chimney. - - I deleted about half of my original comment as I put WAY too much thought into this.
It's so cool that a manufacturer not only comes out with innovative designs, but listens to the views of the community and takes them on board. This shows a commercial maturity, is bound to grow their customers' confidence and I wish them well. Thank you for showcasing this product to your usual exceptional and honest standard.
@@Kawka1122 When it doubt: breacher choke on a pump shotgun and three hi-brass shells. Who cares about a lock when you can just blow the hinges off? >=) If the obvious method of entry is too difficult to overcome, then rest assured that there is an easier way somewhere else...just have to determine what that is.
@@MrAntice Well, I heard of _one_ burglary where the "entrepreneurs" climbed balconies. In all other cases, the point of entry is the front door. That's why over here in Europe "anti-burglary" doors with safe-like hinges and bolts all over are very popular, but I think that our favorite lockpick would make very short work of most of their locks. Of course, in single-family houses (or anything else on the ground floor or not much higher) windows are vulnerable.
This is the type of lock that is perfect to secure remote buildings that have a steel door. Like transmitter sites, cellular sites, and so on. Putting this lock on a wooden door is a very silly thing to do.
Techwolf Lupindo you can reinforce door. Don’t forget that anything can be braked even full metal door especially when it locked on such small piece of regular metal
As someone in that industry... For real, locks don't matter, they just drill it out, angle grind it, and hammer fuck it open. Professional thieves will get into a site no matter what you do. Fastest I've seen is 1200lbs of batteries stolen by 3 guys in 30 minutes, by the time tech and cops rolled up they where gone. Another time they cut through the side of the shelter so we wouldn't get a door alarm.
Thats it! I have been racking my brain trying to figure out who he reminded me of. Of course I will now forever be picturing the LockPickingLawyer as a happy guy with an afro.
@@DianaProudmoore My family house came with metal bars already installed ...and so do all the neighbors who live in this area. There used to be gang activity here, unfortunately. On a brighter note, because every house here has every window and door reinforced with bars break-ins stopped completely!
Exactly. Unless your house is Fort Knox, most break ins are through unsecured windows. Or a rock through same. Even a drill to the lock core won’t arouse suspicions in a noisy or construction active neighborhood.
Holy shit I've been looking for a video where he can't pick a lock . Your videos are top notch Man and your a master and your skills are amazing. Never thought I'd watch so many lock picking videos
@@Meeegot1372 It cannot be picked under lab conditions without some specialized tools and a lot of time. Trying to pick this in broad daylight with neighbors next to you is a guaranteed arrest. That's the point
Mr Master Lock lives in a big house and has a flashy car. And Walmart sells all kinds of shit - both could change tack, but why bother when cheap and nasty flies off the shelf?
That cylinder is exactly 782% more secure than the doors I'd likely install it in... I can't wait for the padlocks though. I wonder what the street price will be? And how long before crappy reverse-engineered clones are being defeated by LPL?
Dunno about where you live, but ordinary burglars rarely bother with picking. They are too stupid to do that. This one will be opened with a sledgehammer or a prying tool or a drill (btw I didn't see ANY protection from drilling. Or just filled with epoxy and opened once the owners replace it with another temporary lock or stop locking it.
The closest robbers get to 'lock picking' is the 'credit card trick', where they use a piece of a credit card to wedge open the latch. (Doesn't work with deadbolts, obviously.) Failing that, they usually break a window to open the deadbolt. Very subtle, right?
People don't put locks like these as a sole security solution. A lock like this is a single piece among tens if not hundreds of other security components working together obviously. Which means, that this lock protects something that has windows that cannot be broken. Also, goodluck smashing this lock with a sledgehammer or tampering with it in any other way with all the cameras and sensors around. Not to mention the door that would house such a lock would be top tier as well. To assume that owners who went through all this would not replace the doors / lock when out of service is ridiculous as well.
I'm not really interested in lock picking but I really love two things about this video. I love the collaboration between lock pickers and the lock makers. Both parties are making the world safer for everyone. I also love the elegant simplicity of the mechanical design of the lock itself. Someone paid close attention in their mechanical engineering classes. :-) My only concern would be that I'd end up breaking the key in the lock with normal use but the gent in the video indicated that the key is made from some pretty durable material so perhaps that's not really a concern. Lastly, I checked online and was pleasantly surprised to see that the lock isn't very expensive.
I sell these in my shop to anyone who even mentions wanting a high-security lock. That it's distinct looking with a really cool keyway may not be the most important aspect, but it certainly helps.
What locking door knob would you pair with this? There's a desire to have one key for the house if possible, but there are no alternatives produced by Bowley at this time.
@@MrYeahyuhhh if you see the key its possible to just recreate it (assuming accuracy ofc). Same applies to disassembly, you can just check the positions of the pins and construct a key
@@matthewmcewen1 But if you have access to the key then you should just use it? A lock like this will be attached to a steel door, probably in the back of a business where money is counted.
@@hansolo631 obviously that would be a better idea if possible. By "seeing" the key, I mean getting photography of it, or somehow remembering the design or bidding but not being able to get full access to the key. For example, LPL has protected the key the key to his personal lock from the viewers to make sure we don't copy the bidding visually, doxx him and then steal his bike. All I mean is that seeing the key OR stealing it will be the best way to get in.
Wasn't expecting to see a 6-year-old LPL video when Adam's video linked it, but wanted to mention that video [653] was posted a month later, and is the follow-up to this one with the prototype of what Adam showed in his video.
Watching your videos makes me think of the "paper room" at my grandparents house in Finland. It is basically a bank vault, an entire room with walls/floor/roof made out of a foot of steel, with a similarly heavy duty steel door, and the only way to get into the room is to open a padlock on the door that you could not brute force with slugs from a shotgun and uses a uniquely massive key. I guess the building used to be a bank 100 years ago, and that was the room they stored all the valuables in.
@@AlexQuill63 Basically nothing, just like towels and stuff like that lol. The house is just their summer cottage kind of thing, all their real stuff is at their primary residence in Helsinki.
These videos need to be nationwide man! I've learned so much about the illusion of security with general lock mechanisms. Plus have used knowledge gained to totally drop my dads jaw simply bumping a door lock open on dads house after he was locked out. I'm not even a pro. He now watches your videos as well. Awesome lock, looks lilr
I appreciate the brilliance of this lock, from a firefighting/ forceable entry perspective, unless you put it in a steel door with a steel frame you are wasting your money. Residential doors take less than a minute to force, they are inherently weaker than just about any lock on the market
Even so people still find comfort in the only means of forced entry being either noisy or time consuming. The goal is less to guarantee keeping people out and more to give you better odds of noticing someone is breaking in so you can react.
I think it's more about stealth. After all padlocks can be as difficult to pick as you like. But I bet my angle grinder would beat em. If you live in a country where you need an unbeatable lock in a steel door. I would advise moving 😂
@@nickdimartino7796 Don't even need steel doors, aluminium doors would probably be fine, good luck bashing that open , only a grinder is really going to work, and that would take ages too. Although you also have to have a good door frame, a chain is as strong as it's weakest link as they say.
Very ingenious. As a non-lock-picker who is just fascinated by LPL's videos, I have to say that it looks like a recipe for a jamming lock to me. Now I have to say that it is more important to me that I can always open my front door or padlock than that some bad guy is unable to pick it - maybe my priorities are wrong. But tolerances that tight, mechanisms that intricate, metal that thin, I just think that within a couple of years I am bound to end up locked out. I mean, door jambs are never, ever, stable - wood moves, foundations move, you always end up having to use force with the key to move the hardware. One 6 thou piece of grit or corrosion will prevent it turning at all. Over the years I have been burgled, I have had valuable stuff taken from my cars, but never by picking - just by breaking and entering. And I can definitely say that I have had far more trouble from non-opening locks than insecure locks. Still, very clever.
A lock like this would be better used indoors for a server room where the climate is controlled, there are no windows and the door frame is made of metal. That should keep all the tolerances the same. And of course if something did go wrong, since you own the property you can always pay to have someone drill or grind through the lock in an emergency.
Yeah locks are just for the simple aversion. A defense against curiosity but not intent. But in theory I could design a lock in the same fashion and use some more corrosive resistant metals (Which I work with daily as I work on boat-riggings and others... The metal is extremely tough, extremely corrosive resistant and overall expensive). Heh, if I had any mind for security I might actually use that to start my own business xD
If you need such a lock, you presumably care enough about what it is protecting to invest a bit of time into maintaining the lock and its door. It's a mechanism, all mechanisms are prone to wear and jams unless you check, clean, lube and repair them at regular intervals.
@thisnicklldo. I agree - it's not practical for several reasons. It's gonna catch on clothes, and is more prone to breaking, but what a beautiful, elegant design.
Don't be misled by appearance. Right now, you are probably using a brass key when you force a sticky/jammed lock. This thing is high-tensile steel. The key is also much thicker than anything you are using now, really hard to bend, harder to break. The inside of the lock is stupidly robust and there is zero thin metal anywhere. (Also, in my experience, good machined tolerances are less likely to gum up with corrosion or grit than stuff with a loose fit.)
Back in the days,if this guy was a professor at my university I would never miss any classes, and you wouldn’t catch me doing anything during the class, other than listening with my jaw dropped 😯 It’s just mesmerizing,and I’m not even interested in lock picking, just stumbled onto his videos by accident. 👍👍👍
I am kind of curious to see how you store all your locks and tools. I like to think you have display shelves for your favorite locks, and a room filled with your collection.
@@herrkulor3771 Fuck yeah boi, been saying we need that for years. Take the least convenient parts of Imperial and metric and smash them together. Deci-feet: like an inch, but shittier. Millimiles: that's like what, 5.28 feet? 5 feet, 2 deci-feet, and 8 centi-foots. Metre-pounds: like a foot-pound, except fuck you. Miles per gallon + litres per hundred kilometres = kilogallons per dozen litremetres.
@@gitghetto yeah, you know it was not all too serious. Just that LOGIC was the key word.. so I got a little provocative and triggered... Prefixes are everywhere, like Mega , kilo and practical since you only need one letter when writing so correctly I should have written 50m" which looks very crappy. The new 50 metre-inch
*Remember:* you are probably not safe just because you have bought a monster lock like this, because it is probably easier to go in through the (metaphorical?) window, (and now you have a bunch of extra glass to clean up).
+Sion yes, but a lot fewer criminals would be willing to break in through a window rather than a lock on the front door. Breaking in through a window is a lot more noticeable so quite a few people would turn away after realizing they couldnt get in through picking [or breaking] the lock on the front door. Thats a good thing though. means you moved the weakness of your security from your front door lock to something like a window already making you not worth the effort compared to someone who has a much easier front door lock they can just break into.
Maybe the LockPicking Lawyer and the JerryRigEverything guys share the same family tree, since their voices sound very similar, pleasant, soothing, and easy to listen to. ;)
This lock could also be fitted with many different anti-tamper features such as completing an electrcal alarm circuit if the back of the drum was touched in the wrong place or the zero-lift pin touched the top of it's chamber
Pretty sure the zero-lift pin wouldn't work because of the extra rotating cylinder in the lock mechanism that keeps all the pins fully pressed inward until the key or tensioner rotates it 180 degrees.
There are some downsides though 1: the key looks really flimsy. And if the lockpicklawyer cant open it, your local locksmith wont be abled to help you either, especially because he probably wont have the blanks to replace the key. 2: If you ever give the key to someone else (to look after pets or whatever) youll also have to give them a users manual because its so cmplicated to open even with the key.
ikr . i mean i didn't even think lock or key as something to be this relaxed to watch... its just him that make this video so good to accompany me to sleep
Bad thing is, his videos make me want to give picking a try. I know it would be so inept in comparison that after struggling on my first and only lock for a few hours with out picking it. That i would drop it and the picks in a drawer and never pick them up again.
Hi! I am an absolut amateur but what I could imagine that could work would be a set of 5 picks each with a deep groove on one of the pins for the no tolerance pins and on the other pins a slight ramp going from left to right. With these you could bump the lock not by going front to back but by fast wiggling in a rotation movement. Thank you for many very entertaining and very educating videos. I love to watch your channel! Greetings from Germany, Phi
Stuff Made Here made a couple of great locks... but this is WAY beyond those. I'd even guess that that forthcoming Bowler was a response to his second lock.
@@davidsloat1016 His locks are still far more prototypes. They do work on similar principles of needing rotation to test the key, but in this lock's case, the entire pin and sheer line thing is offset while stuff made here's lock has only the sheer line offset.
Canadian here. LPL makes me proud. He essentially said what our Canadian company made is next to unpickable. No complement is greater than that from such an esteemed and respected locksmith as the LPL.
I truly wonder how many thieves have skills beyond cutting the lock (or chain) that would lead them to immediately seek other methods of destructive entry (eg breaching door jambs, hinge removal, etc.) An impenetrable lock - while important of course - would just mean efforts at entry become more simplistic and destructive. All of which points to the importance of hardening all areas of ingress plus monitoring. Fantastic content and perhaps the most educational channel on YT. As a lawyer I guess most of his cases are open and shut...😏
I don’t care if they break in and steal stuff, I’ve got good insurance. But insurance often won’t cover a picked lock break in since there’s no proof and they’ll assume insurance fraud. If there’s destructive entry you’re pretty much guaranteed to be covered by insurance, and that’s what matters to me.
I’ve had one on my door for about a month and it’s just like using a regular key now. Took a couple days to get used to. Strong key too, I don’t think I could bend it without pliers.
Thank you again. I am no Locksmith, but strangely enough, we moved into a house that was owned by one and we still get Locksmith mail. My skills are in engineering and I love the videos (long or short) on all these wonderful mechanisms. So much of this knowledge carries over into all sorts of latches, fasteners, and other containment systems.
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"I'd buy it for my house"
That is the LPL seal of approval
@@akaouri "Picked"... with a *drill.* (EDIT: It's actually an electronic pick gun. Still not really LPL's style, though, and it tends to leave identifiable marks on the lock even though it remains usable.)
Pretty sure LPL sticks to non destructive attacks.
@@M90thYou To be fair, I'm not sure it's actually destructive, or if it's just being used to apply more torque than the hand could. Honestly, I'm not quite sure what that person is doing?
@@M90thYou Okay. I've looked some things up, and it wasn't exactly a drill, but an EPG, a tool that uses vibrations to accomplish something similar to a bump attack, but without being vulnerable to anti-bump pins. What he did was in principle non-destructive, although the key sticks slightly when he tries to demonstrate this, making me think he did minor damage, and in fact looking into it, EPGs do leave characteristic marks on locks. In essence, he made a paperclip into a skeleton key to get around the ward, and once it was in place he used the EPG to bump the pins open. Still, it would have been impossible to induce the proper vibrations by hand.
Almost 1000th like lmao
Upon finding this lock set in the door your first question becomes-
"I wonder what those hinges are made of?"
I'd be thinking "if this guy has a lock like this, what are the chances he's got some wild security system."
Combine that with jamb pins in the hinges, a hammerhead-style deadbolt (to prevent door spreader attacks) and a cowl around the thumb-turn to stymie under/over door wire/flipper attacks and security film on every window. The only way they're getting in then is with a shit-load of noise using a sledgehammer or powersaw.
@@TwistedMe13 Dont need a power saw...hammer and nail bar is enough...pull 2 pieces of siding and 6 nails...off comes the plywood...
@@stevecope5549 USES STEEL DOORFRAME
@@wizziamthegreat I didn't say anything about a door or a doorframe.
Regular construction grade plywood and siding.
When an expert can't open it under laboratory conditions in several hours of work, i assume it's quite safe
Well its time for the blowtorch
@Philippe youre very incorrect
@Philippe Oxy-acetylene will cut steel, but if you're carrying those around it's fairly obvious who torched the lock
@Philippe going through windows or the door itself would probably be easier than going through this lock
@Philippe MAPP gas is used in plumber's torches. An oxy-acetylene torch could destroy this lock in a relatively short time.
The bowley lock is such a brilliant design. So simple, so effective, and yet so obvious it's surprising nobody had produced something like it until recently. A really good example of ingenuity over complexity.
It is an amazing lock, but the complexity of all the precisely assembled components makes it expensive to manufacture. So it is a risk balance playing there. Having this on your wooden door that can easily be breached by force may not be the best idea. The beefy padlock version makes more sense.
@@marquiis Solution?
Moar locc, moar door
so elegant, so attractive, so very hot and sexy lock
@@marquiis it can also be made inoperable with a few cents worth of cheing gum, just as most other locks can.
@@onradioactivewaves Bro, I am on my hands and knees here, please tell me where the chewing gum is a few cents. I've travelled throughout Europe, a small tour of japan, a dirt bike ride through the amazon, and lived primarily in America, visiting the different states over the many years.
And I still can not find affordable chewing gum.
When the lockpickinglawyer can't pick it under 4 minutes it's safe.
When he takes hours and still cant this is Alien grade bulletproof spaceage security level 1 Billion
It's funny though because the design isn't even that high tech, just smart. You don't need high tech if you just put a piece of metal between the pins in the keyhole.
Yeah but a brick through window
Exactly, most street criminals aren't going to be able to touch a lock like this. And even if you get an experienced lock picker, it would still take some time and effort. Unless they know you have $1 mil in cash locked up, most people wouldn't bother with it.
@@wileecoyote5749 well....that's certainly effective.
@@wileecoyote5749 only works if I have windows to start with ;) some of us buried our hobbit houses for insulation savings. lol Your point is still valid for the vast majority of folks though.
This fella could pick his nose and I’d still be fascinated
Why the fuck this made me laugh :,D
I can hear his voice in my head, "And as I twist my left hand, you can see how the flakes of dried snot crumble off below my little finger... (I'll put those over here in case I might need them later), but some of the liquid goo still managed to cling to my fingernail..."
@@ProfessorJayTee that is really frickin cursed and i am disgusted. Thank you
"1 is loose, got a nice click out of 2..."
Pants 1000 I know, right? As long as he was using that voice to tell me every detail of the experience, I would be fascinated.
Seeing this lock on a door would say two things to the initiated:
1. There's some very valuable stuff inside.
2. Gaining access to it via the lock is not the right plan.
Pretty sure thieves debunk that myth rather quickly in their professional experience. People watching these videos are not rich guys, they're just paranoid.
@@rokask Thieves debunk what? That's an expensive lock and the average thief isn't going to pick it. They may find another way in but it likely won't be quiet or quick.
Why would anyone watching these videos be paranoid? Just a bunch of guys and gals who like to pick locks. I think you may be the paranoid one here.
@@graveseeker "expensive lock" = $125
I'm sorry, what?
@@666Tomato666 Compared to the $20 Kwiksets and Yales you normally find, a Bowley is a friggin expensive lock and not one the average, or even above average, thief is going to tackle with anything smaller than a sledge hammer..
@@666Tomato666 I'm sorry what?
125 USD is expensive for a lock compared to the processes that went into making it
So the only way to "pick" this lock... Is to make your own key. I think that's about as good as it gets.
Underrated Comment. Made my day..
A tentacle could do it
Not designed for ocean use
@@patar3323 with a tentacle long enough you could penetrate anything.
@@miloradowicz unfortunately that is correct, it's currently penetrating my back door
2:05 This lock is so secure that even WITH the key some people won't know how to get in.
Not strictly related, but that reminds me of a story. The front door lock at my grandmothers house was so busted that we joked a burglar couldn’t get through that door if they had the key in their hand. I’d spend a good 15 seconds opening that lock, and I’ve dealt with it twice a day for the past decade.
I can only imagine that if a thief tried to open the door, they’d assume they had the wrong key and keep moving. Her house has been broken into, but even with a spare key “hidden” in the world most cliche place, never in the past 50 years has someone gotten though that front door
@@emilyblack7342 I had a grandma and her front door was like that too :) Lock from the 50s, and a nightmare to open even having the proper key.
@@absurdengineering my pop's house was the exact same. Fucking old timey locks. I remember I couldn't get into a shed that had some tools because the lock was from like the 1920s.
@@akumasstorytime3910 With my grandma’s front door you had to get all the motions and pressures just right for it to turn. Otherwise it’d almost jam up and it took great care to get the key out without breaking the key. The key was stamped out of sheet steel and had the two “wings with teeth”. The keying on the wings was asymmetric.
The only way a burglar would get in would be probably busting in without a key. With the key they would get stuck on the unlocking unless they had experience with a similarly opinionated lock.
I have the magical ability to be able to make all keys useless. The Bowley lock would be impossible for me to use.
I have never once heard this guy ever say that he has not yet developed the skills necessary to nondestructively defeat the lock. Considering this dude's insanely highly developed abilities that is fucking crazy impressive.
you talk like you just learned what adjectives are.
@@zonkedmc You talk like I give a shit what you think. If you don't like the way I write, you're unfortunately just gonna have to deal with it.
@@zonkedmc lol
Roasted af 💀🍗🔥👌🤣
@@franciscocarmonanoguera5856 how?
Her: for Valentine’s Day I’m giving you the key to my heart.
Him: No need... Nice click out of one, two is binding...
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
FORCED ENTRY
next episode we will try brute forcing it
brilliant
Me: Points Ramset
I hope you never lose your keys. I doubt very seriously any run-of-the-mill locksmith will be able to non-destructively defeat or re-key these. That is insane craftsmanship! BRAVO Bowley.
I bought a bowley lock due to this video. You get a lot of extra keys at least 4 total. I'd find it hard to lose em.
@@71stBrax Make sure you leave one under the mat, just in case.
@@stupedcraig I use it on the door for my gun room. Not gonna be a problem. ^_^ thanks though.
@@stupedcraig considering the opening mechanism, this might be a good idea. I doubt anyone who doesn't own one will know how to open it.
@@TrippOnPower Even owning one, no one literally will go through the trouble of trying to open the lock, probably cheaper and faster to just break the door itself at that point. And then it has fulfilled it's purpose, a lock is suppose to make someone resort to force, which is obviously a pretty loud method of "Opening" a door.
He got issues with a lock!!!!?
*TAKE MY MONEY!!*
I know, right? Even for the locks he describes as tricky, it usually takes him like 3 minutes.
I bought one. It is extremely high-quality. I had to give a tutorial to my ex-wife and my girlfriend who are the only ones who have keys (don't ask) but it really does give some peace of mind. Plus it's cool AF.
Hats off to both the #LockPickingLawyer and Bowley.
@@Hagemann666 i would prefer to ask, but
@John Hagemann < I don't know about that key, looks a bit flimsy to me as its long U shaped protruding part with no connection at the tip to the shaft could bend given enough force in a pocket or in the keyhole. It's not a very sturdy looking thingy but maybe it is.
@@BillAnt that'll be the reason it's made of hardened steel rather than brass
This is a good analogy for modern cryptography approaches in IT: security through obscurity is inferior to good design. The best encryption methods are completely open in source, just as you can take apart this lock and look into it. The strength of this lock does not derive from you not being able to look inside of it - the strength of the lock comes from being hard to open despite knowledge of its design.
"Orange Man Bad"
Years ago - my dad worked in an office where they had a bank vault door they installed to a room made of standard 2x4 studs and drywall. Someone broke in one night and spent hours trying to cut through the door before abandoning the job. They had no idea that about 2 minutes with a sledgehammer and a hand saw would have got them through the wall next to the door and into the room.
@@mrmeow1012 Obviously. Even playable characters know that.
:^l
To be fair security by obscurity is absolutely a legitimate tactic but you have to understand its uses and limitations. A lot of security is making yourself a less desirable target nowadays since there is almost always a zero day or other hole noone really knows about. But if you make yourself a pain in the ass youll get ignored most likely.
Fallout and elder scrolls: this lock cannot be picked, you need a key
Me: curse you Bowley!
the skeleton key would work, it opens literally anything
@@lonewanderer1328 oblivion time
@@Dr-Orange I can tell you that's not true for oblivion
@@Sip_Dhit what do you mean? There is this lock pick (that I still don't have) called the skeleton key which doesn't break so you can spam X to Autopick and the lock will eventually open.
@@DemonKyle that's also true, but like 90% of all doors are pickable
My jaw actually just dropped, I've never seen a lock give you trouble before
I am actually considering purchasing this as I've never heard you describe a lock in this manner before lol - great job to Bowley
It didn't just give him trouble, it flat out defeated him. Truly a worthy lock.
Bowley, the creators of the "get f*cked" key system.
*”it’s a simple spell but quite unbreakable”*
The Time Stone wouldn’t be secure from this dude, let’s be honest
@@jackmanning1117 Thanos would go to snap only to find that the gauntlet has been removed from his hand, it cuts to 4 months down the line where Thanos is just watching RUclips in his cell and sees "Hey guys, it's the LockPickingLawyer and here's one I've been figuring out for a few months now. Here's how to pick the Infinity Gauntlet off of someones hand."
It seems that someone has picked this lock: ruclips.net/video/X04qgD0hOXk/видео.html
Le Superhero Adventures Endgame Assembly ReLoaded reference.
@@HattovonHatzfeld He was able to pick it ONLY after studying the keys. That doesn't count in my book.
I think this is easily at the point where the bad guy shrugs, puts away his pick set and hauls put his sledge hammer. Great to see locks that are so different from the norm.
I think seeing a Bowley on a substantial door is when the bad guy does like one did to a friend of mine: Break into the garage, steal the chainsaw, and cut a door size hole through the back wall of the house...
A Bowley on the garage door?.
The garage door opens to a size 9 overt entry tool.
I recently installed two of these on my front/back doors and I'd agree. You walk up to one of these and go "crap, where else can I break in"... ;). It's the point though, right?
I don't even think that the bad guy has lock picks to begin with. ive personally never seen it. around here they just use force. it works. Also gets them shot. thats a win in my book. I'd even go as far as to say the crooks in my city wouldn't even know what a freakin bowley lock is.
this is the 2-step verification of locks.
This is the endless Captcha of "select all squares with a crosswalk" of locks.
this is the Captcha typing GIF but the last letter of the GIF is barely readable of locks.
It's kinda like 2 factory authentication. More secue and annoying to use
@@mirzaahmed6589 That kind is easy. Older capchas were so fucking hard. You had to type a word and the font was insane and it was case sensitive. 😱
@@pumpkin6429 and I seem to recall it got to a point where bots were better at those than humans
imagine getting a lock like this and just leaving the key under the doormat
With how weirdly he described using the key I don't think that would actually matter
Or the intruder ringing the bell at the neighbors apartment saying he is the pizza guy
Not uncommon in countries with good locks as standard. That ANSI grade 2 hardware looked tiny compared to the hardware we use on doors with no locks. Importing foreign door mechanisms could be a major upgrade for US doors even with their weak lock cylinders.
@@johndododoe1411 where do you mean?
Still better than Masterlock.
a 17 minute video without ads?? you sir are a certified *M A D L A D*
Well, he is lawyer IRL, I don't think he needs that RUclips money that much.
I got an ad
The video is the ad
The whole video is an ads.
just a 17 minute video is mad for lpl
9:51 Been picking locks for so long, he forgot how to insert a key.
lol, true =)
@@morsine can't lie, I do that all the time lol
@@Onel1ttlek1lla it’s like super position with USBs, but with keys
@@thatonedude-6819 lmfaooo so true
He doesn’t even use a key 😆
Love it. the lock has not been picked by anyone that I know of and the company adds a second row of pins. This is how it should be proactive not reactive.
Aren't they reacting though?
Seems to me the second row makes it easier to pick, because it opens up the front of the ward more and adds a second slot in the core. Of course, I guess you could mitigate that by having the pins at an angle other than 12 or 6 'o clock.
@@benb8075
Then they better add a third one.
how about 50 rows of pins
@@benb8075 have a Y shaped ward
So this is the day we discovered LPL is human. This lock deserves the highest respect; it kept him out. Brilliant video, you explained the mechanism perfectly
The phrase "Cutting-edge technology from 1,000 years ago" makes me snicker.
Old tech rediscovered again.
It makes me snigger.
🍫
It makes me milky way...
I'll show my way out the door.
well........ the concrete that was made in ancient Greece is far superior to what we have today. all of those buildings are still standing, our concrete lasts MAYBE 50 years.
Plot twist: people at Bowley have been watching LPL's channel for years before engineering this lock.
Online research like that would be the smart thing to do for this industry :)
Any company actually wanting to get a good rep would deff ask its locksmiths/engineers to watch this man's entire repertoire.
Not a plot twist.
They have been doing that
It would actually be a plot twist if it turned out that they hadn't been to be perfectly honest
@@sanssheriff3829 Didn't you know? It's the most common reason behind the Master Lock employees' suicides.
I have no idea what he's talking about but damn am I listening
For real, i have no idea how the fuck he knows so much aside from a buttload of experience, but his voice is just so easy to listen to
After watching LPL for a while I’ve been thinking on how would I engineer a more secure lock, often fancy, over complicated and intricate contraptions; however, after seeing this design being so simple inside made me remember why I’m not an engineer and appreciate simple “out of the box” solutions are always the better choice
Me: *spends hundreds on unpickable lock*
Criminal: *throws a rock through the window*
I have yet to see a house with a metal door that wasn't next to a window.
@@henmich not only that you could very easily go through wooden or vinyl siding, drywall and insulation with a friggin battery operated sawzall if it comes down to you wanting to get inside a house lol
What's a window?
@@captainfancypants4933 not in Europe though, we build houses solely from double walled stone: insulated reinforced concrete with a brick & morter outer wall. Happy sawing!
Of course you could break into a window, but modern 3 layer thermopane would be very inconvenient to break and make loads of noise in doing it, let alone hurting the criminal. You only have to make your home less attractive then others around, not unbreakable, unless you've got millions of valuables inside.
Jokes on you, my walls are made of stone and all of my windows have steel bars in front of of them.
Sure enough, you can cut through forged steel, but it's gonna take a while and make a lot of noise.
Then you get in and the most valuable thing you find is a 400€ Laptop. Or a 280€ monitor.
I was a Marine Corps Armorer that did lock and key control for the weapon systems. I rebuilt ALL of the locks in the armory while I was there. I really appreciate your videos and learned a lot. Thank you
"I've seen this before so yeah i can maybe pick it,, I just need a brass blank, and a precision milling machine and 24 hours".. sounds pretty safe
lol! With a blank key, and cutoff tool, and an oscillating tool, I can make it happen. Granted, everyone for quite some distance will need to be DEAF, and it'll shake the unholy hell out of the mechanism. Bring a vacuum to clean up the sawdust. ;) Also a key with an ultrasound driven keyway element, or MEMS actuator would work. Which is only practical if you have CIA level money. ;)
The first ones binding, nothing on two, a little bit of resistance on 3 and a click on 4, looks like we are good to go folks.
Impressed by Bowley. I've never seen the LPL unable to pick a lock. I've found my new house deadbolt. Thanks!
The lock picking kit for Bowley locks includes a large axe, a door ram, and a plasma torch. :-)
And a large boot.
And some C4 if everything else fails
Throw in some diamond tip drill bits....
This is brilliantly elegant. It's so clearly superior, I don't understand why a design like this didn't become universal a long time ago.
If it became universal an exploit would o been found years ago
Because of the slight inconvenience in having to learn how to open it with the key. The masses want things simple and standardized
Because people are fucking stupid and would rather leave their door unlocked permanently than experience the slightest inconvenience.
Same reason people's passwords get cracked: cuz folks are lazy, stupid, or both.
Patents, most likely.
Crime not being as frequent as paranoia could also play a role.
Oh, here's another one, people living in high crime areas don't have shit worth risking prison over might also work.
Don't get me wrong, I watched this whole video and now I know where I'm getting my next padlock and lock for my armored doors.
Also, for real this time, it's because you can have the most genius, secure lock design possible and it still won't hold up to an angle grinder.
An angle grinder doesn't give a fuck about a bowley-abloy-steel-reinforced-security-pinned lock; unless you're gonna make it out of titanium, it just cuts right through.
The more he says, the more I hear, "Use the window."
Haha true or just brute force you don't have time sit and pick two hours Infront of house
Or chimney...
@@Theaikro The modern chimney is not a viable entry unless you are about the size of a racoon. In the US, a house without wood burning can have a 6 or 9 inch flue while a house that burns wood in a fireplace would likely have a 9x6 or 9x9 flue. Not really big enough for a human, and without that fireplace, you'd be hard pressed to find a way out of the chimney. - - I deleted about half of my original comment as I put WAY too much thought into this.
@WhiteShadow2k1 Use library windows?
Buy a couple window panes glue them together and boom bulletproof glass
Bowley really out here making actual unpickable locks
It's so cool that a manufacturer not only comes out with innovative designs, but listens to the views of the community and takes them on board. This shows a commercial maturity, is bound to grow their customers' confidence and I wish them well. Thank you for showcasing this product to your usual exceptional and honest standard.
Man they did their homework on that one they sat down said what makes picking a lock easy then they said we'll just build a wall
must have got the idea from Trump
@@jonathanblair5920 That's the thousand year old technology sorted.
How about the hundred year stuff? ;-P
@@jonathanblair5920 Or possibly China.
Trump got the idea from this lock 😂
@@pd4165 trump supporters: "that technology was stolen from trump"
I am legitimately impressed... this is actually really smart as opposed to the "more" approach other locks makers have...
thief: sees bowly lock
thief: "suboptimal" (pulls out 20x138mm anti vehicle gun)
Commencing: rapid unplanned disassembly
@@Kawka1122 When it doubt: breacher choke on a pump shotgun and three hi-brass shells. Who cares about a lock when you can just blow the hinges off? >=)
If the obvious method of entry is too difficult to overcome, then rest assured that there is an easier way somewhere else...just have to determine what that is.
“Stealthy”
*opens window that wasn’t closed instead*
Also I mean, crowbar + window
Me, who will probably never pick a lock in my life: Fascinating. Very fascinating.
Impressive, very nice.
Now let's see Paul Allen's lock.
Bowley: The premiere lock picker CANNOT break in, let's double it.
Good to know.
The lock picking lawyer took 1st place at a competition this year.
@@klugreedshow8137 wait which competition?
Finally, a lock that doesn't leave me feeling I might as well "lock" my house with a Post-it note saying "please don't enter"...
bazoo513 well.. you can’t lock pick a post it note 👍🏽 #safe
There just going to use a window unless you have wired windows
@@__-td8rq That very much depends on the floor you live on.
@@bazoo513 Security by height. Sounds like a good plan.
@@MrAntice Well, I heard of _one_ burglary where the "entrepreneurs" climbed balconies. In all other cases, the point of entry is the front door. That's why over here in Europe "anti-burglary" doors with safe-like hinges and bolts all over are very popular, but I think that our favorite lockpick would make very short work of most of their locks.
Of course, in single-family houses (or anything else on the ground floor or not much higher) windows are vulnerable.
This is such an elegant and clever design.
The way they hid the pins from access with another simple mechanism is brilliant.
Love it. Beautiful.
This is the type of lock that is perfect to secure remote buildings that have a steel door. Like transmitter sites, cellular sites, and so on. Putting this lock on a wooden door is a very silly thing to do.
Techwolf Lupindo you can reinforce door. Don’t forget that anything can be braked even full metal door especially when it locked on such small piece of regular metal
Server room, gun room, home vault etc
As someone in that industry... For real, locks don't matter, they just drill it out, angle grind it, and hammer fuck it open. Professional thieves will get into a site no matter what you do. Fastest I've seen is 1200lbs of batteries stolen by 3 guys in 30 minutes, by the time tech and cops rolled up they where gone. Another time they cut through the side of the shelter so we wouldn't get a door alarm.
Not silly. They will have to resort to destructive methods. Now you have proof that things are afoot
@Kwok Yat Wai penis
The Bob Ross of lockpicking
"And a happy little pin lives here.............
Thats it! I have been racking my brain trying to figure out who he reminded me of. Of course I will now forever be picturing the LockPickingLawyer as a happy guy with an afro.
Yeah, exactly what I was thinking ... so mesmerizing to hear. Happy accidents... oops, lock is open!
"Every pin needs a friend..."
😃
After I installed this lock, I'll have to reinforced my house.
Specially, the windows~
Diana Kurosawa You can’t break in through the windows.... IF THERE ARE NO WINDOWS.
@@DianaProudmoore My family house came with metal bars already installed ...and so do all the neighbors who live in this area. There used to be gang activity here, unfortunately.
On a brighter note, because every house here has every window and door reinforced with bars break-ins stopped completely!
Firesgone-but arsons have skyrocketed.
@@stevenunyabidness Not in my area lol
Breaks in house, steals lock.
Just make sure you’re quiet.
Exactly. Unless your house is Fort Knox, most break ins are through unsecured windows. Or a rock through same. Even a drill to the lock core won’t arouse suspicions in a noisy or construction active neighborhood.
"This door cannot be opened without a key."
Or a big foot.
Or a jackhammer.
Or a ramset😎
"Fukkit, I'm just gonna smash it with my car."
Time to use the console "unlock 00f2641e"
This brings me great pain, but it must be done...
*Lockpicking:*
*99*
Can't we do a decimal in there or something? The man puts Houdini to shame.
@@notyourbuddy_guy 99.99999...
Skyrim FTW xD
Creeper Kickers change those decimals to be 9 repeating to make it 100 technically while still acknowledging that it’s not quite 100.
@@rileydumont7283 99.99e1000000
Holy shit I've been looking for a video where he can't pick a lock . Your videos are top notch Man and your a master and your skills are amazing. Never thought I'd watch so many lock picking videos
I've probably watched about 200 of his videos and this is the first where he can't pick it. Not a bad ratio!
@@coconoisette same
Was picked in under 30s from another lockpick guy
Basically, Bowley makes the most secure locks in the industry.
this lock has been picked by EPG many many times, just check youtube. LPL is not a great EPG picker so this lock is only good vs him.
@@Meeegot1372 the video is also an old one. The bowley lock was unpickable when the video got out. Obviously not anymore if you have the right tools.
@@Meeegot1372 nope, try harder troll.
@@Meeegot1372 It cannot be picked under lab conditions without some specialized tools and a lot of time. Trying to pick this in broad daylight with neighbors next to you is a guaranteed arrest. That's the point
Abloys are better tho
LPL: can't open lock
Master Locks: is it possible to learn this power
Yes, but not for them.
LPL: execute order 66
Mr Master Lock lives in a big house and has a flashy car.
And Walmart sells all kinds of shit - both could change tack, but why bother when cheap and nasty flies off the shelf?
That cylinder is exactly 782% more secure than the doors I'd likely install it in...
I can't wait for the padlocks though. I wonder what the street price will be? And how long before crappy reverse-engineered clones are being defeated by LPL?
Dunno about where you live, but ordinary burglars rarely bother with picking. They are too stupid to do that.
This one will be opened with a sledgehammer or a prying tool or a drill (btw I didn't see ANY protection from drilling. Or just filled with epoxy and opened once the owners replace it with another temporary lock or stop locking it.
The closest robbers get to 'lock picking' is the 'credit card trick', where they use a piece of a credit card to wedge open the latch. (Doesn't work with deadbolts, obviously.) Failing that, they usually break a window to open the deadbolt. Very subtle, right?
People don't put locks like these as a sole security solution. A lock like this is a single piece among tens if not hundreds of other security components working together obviously. Which means, that this lock protects something that has windows that cannot be broken. Also, goodluck smashing this lock with a sledgehammer or tampering with it in any other way with all the cameras and sensors around. Not to mention the door that would house such a lock would be top tier as well. To assume that owners who went through all this would not replace the doors / lock when out of service is ridiculous as well.
RENOVATIO thieves wouldn't be smashing the lock with the sledgehammer...they'd be knocking the door in.
@@ROTAXD Not if the door matches the quality of the lock
I'm not really interested in lock picking but I really love two things about this video. I love the collaboration between lock pickers and the lock makers. Both parties are making the world safer for everyone. I also love the elegant simplicity of the mechanical design of the lock itself. Someone paid close attention in their mechanical engineering classes. :-)
My only concern would be that I'd end up breaking the key in the lock with normal use but the gent in the video indicated that the key is made from some pretty durable material so perhaps that's not really a concern.
Lastly, I checked online and was pleasantly surprised to see that the lock isn't very expensive.
Soo... This video is now 4 years old. I wonder if he's found a way to pick that lock by now.
I sell these in my shop to anyone who even mentions wanting a high-security lock. That it's distinct looking with a really cool keyway may not be the most important aspect, but it certainly helps.
How are they priced compered to your average other secure lock?
What locking door knob would you pair with this? There's a desire to have one key for the house if possible, but there are no alternatives produced by Bowley at this time.
@@user-by7hj4dj9s Cheap AF, starts at $125 on Bowley's site. Most other locks that are this secure are also very complex which makes them expensive.
Are you in UK?
Me too
So essentially without seeing the key or taking the lock apart to see how it works, this lock is unpickable.
even with it how can you pick it?
@@MrYeahyuhhh amen, I mean if LPL couldn't open it *with tools*, picking it seems impossible
@@MrYeahyuhhh if you see the key its possible to just recreate it (assuming accuracy ofc). Same applies to disassembly, you can just check the positions of the pins and construct a key
@@matthewmcewen1 But if you have access to the key then you should just use it? A lock like this will be attached to a steel door, probably in the back of a business where money is counted.
@@hansolo631 obviously that would be a better idea if possible. By "seeing" the key, I mean getting photography of it, or somehow remembering the design or bidding but not being able to get full access to the key. For example, LPL has protected the key the key to his personal lock from the viewers to make sure we don't copy the bidding visually, doxx him and then steal his bike. All I mean is that seeing the key OR stealing it will be the best way to get in.
Wasn't expecting to see a 6-year-old LPL video when Adam's video linked it, but wanted to mention that video [653] was posted a month later, and is the follow-up to this one with the prototype of what Adam showed in his video.
Watching your videos makes me think of the "paper room" at my grandparents house in Finland. It is basically a bank vault, an entire room with walls/floor/roof made out of a foot of steel, with a similarly heavy duty steel door, and the only way to get into the room is to open a padlock on the door that you could not brute force with slugs from a shotgun and uses a uniquely massive key. I guess the building used to be a bank 100 years ago, and that was the room they stored all the valuables in.
LPL: "click on 2, click on 3"
Out of curiosity, what do your grandparents store in there?
@@AlexQuill63 Basically nothing, just like towels and stuff like that lol. The house is just their summer cottage kind of thing, all their real stuff is at their primary residence in Helsinki.
@@MrNommerzso it’s basically a massive troll to any robbers.
Not intentionally, but they’ll feel like one to them.
These videos need to be nationwide man! I've learned so much about the illusion of security with general lock mechanisms.
Plus have used knowledge gained to totally drop my dads jaw simply bumping a door lock open on dads house after he was locked out.
I'm not even a pro. He now watches your videos as well.
Awesome lock, looks lilr
you know it's a good lock when using the key is more complicated than picking most locks
11:17 ...."that kept me out" .... never expected that coming from the
LockPickingLawyer
Left unspoken: _"...so far."_
I appreciate the brilliance of this lock, from a firefighting/ forceable entry perspective, unless you put it in a steel door with a steel frame you are wasting your money. Residential doors take less than a minute to force, they are inherently weaker than just about any lock on the market
Even so people still find comfort in the only means of forced entry being either noisy or time consuming. The goal is less to guarantee keeping people out and more to give you better odds of noticing someone is breaking in so you can react.
I mean, if you were so inclined there are definitely steel doors that look nice
I think it's more about stealth. After all padlocks can be as difficult to pick as you like. But I bet my angle grinder would beat em.
If you live in a country where you need an unbeatable lock in a steel door. I would advise moving 😂
@@nickdimartino7796 Don't even need steel doors, aluminium doors would probably be fine, good luck bashing that open , only a grinder is really going to work, and that would take ages too. Although you also have to have a good door frame, a chain is as strong as it's weakest link as they say.
Wow, this goes to show what a lock maker can do when they put their minds to it and listen to the lock pickers.
Very ingenious. As a non-lock-picker who is just fascinated by LPL's videos, I have to say that it looks like a recipe for a jamming lock to me. Now I have to say that it is more important to me that I can always open my front door or padlock than that some bad guy is unable to pick it - maybe my priorities are wrong. But tolerances that tight, mechanisms that intricate, metal that thin, I just think that within a couple of years I am bound to end up locked out. I mean, door jambs are never, ever, stable - wood moves, foundations move, you always end up having to use force with the key to move the hardware. One 6 thou piece of grit or corrosion will prevent it turning at all. Over the years I have been burgled, I have had valuable stuff taken from my cars, but never by picking - just by breaking and entering. And I can definitely say that I have had far more trouble from non-opening locks than insecure locks. Still, very clever.
A lock like this would be better used indoors for a server room where the climate is controlled, there are no windows and the door frame is made of metal. That should keep all the tolerances the same. And of course if something did go wrong, since you own the property you can always pay to have someone drill or grind through the lock in an emergency.
Yeah locks are just for the simple aversion. A defense against curiosity but not intent.
But in theory I could design a lock in the same fashion and use some more corrosive resistant metals (Which I work with daily as I work on boat-riggings and others... The metal is extremely tough, extremely corrosive resistant and overall expensive).
Heh, if I had any mind for security I might actually use that to start my own business xD
If you need such a lock, you presumably care enough about what it is protecting to invest a bit of time into maintaining the lock and its door. It's a mechanism, all mechanisms are prone to wear and jams unless you check, clean, lube and repair them at regular intervals.
@thisnicklldo. I agree - it's not practical for several reasons. It's gonna catch on clothes, and is more prone to breaking, but what a beautiful, elegant design.
Don't be misled by appearance. Right now, you are probably using a brass key when you force a sticky/jammed lock. This thing is high-tensile steel. The key is also much thicker than anything you are using now, really hard to bend, harder to break. The inside of the lock is stupidly robust and there is zero thin metal anywhere.
(Also, in my experience, good machined tolerances are less likely to gum up with corrosion or grit than stuff with a loose fit.)
LPL: Scolds us for not following him on Twitter.
also LPL: Doesn't put his Twitter link in the video description.
Me: “Wow a 17 minute long video”
LPL: “I’ll be reviewing this lock”
Me: “Ah that explains it”
The "confusing key" lock. I just gave up on the thought of picking the lock when I saw that key.
Back in the days,if this guy was a professor at my university I would never miss any classes, and you wouldn’t catch me doing anything during the class, other than listening with my jaw dropped 😯
It’s just mesmerizing,and I’m not even interested in lock picking, just stumbled onto his videos by accident.
👍👍👍
I like how your videos of this lock are on Bowley's website :D
No need for marketing wank!
I am kind of curious to see how you store all your locks and tools. I like to think you have display shelves for your favorite locks, and a room filled with your collection.
He made a video on how he approaches learning to pick locks... lots of bins, lots of locks on huge caribeeners. Lots of locks that he's since sold.
They’re kept under lock and key.
@@alxgu198 Nope, they just kept under lock. Has to pick his way in every time he wants something.
@@mertar3608 Of course 🤦♂️
Locked - Requires key
Lygs Lolwhat underrated comment😩
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*Click on door twice*
Unlock
Unlocked door
this is hands down the most impressive lock ive seen on this channel.
this is Monumental! LPL cannot open this lock! They deserve the highest praise in the lock world!
Here from Adam Savage's post!
metric : about 1 milimetre
imprerial : about 50 thousands of an inch
LOGIC
50 milliinches
@@herrkulor3771 Fuck yeah boi, been saying we need that for years.
Take the least convenient parts of Imperial and metric and smash them together.
Deci-feet: like an inch, but shittier.
Millimiles: that's like what, 5.28 feet? 5 feet, 2 deci-feet, and 8 centi-foots.
Metre-pounds: like a foot-pound, except fuck you.
Miles per gallon + litres per hundred kilometres = kilogallons per dozen litremetres.
@@gitghetto yeah, you know it was not all too serious. Just that LOGIC was the key word.. so I got a little provocative and triggered...
Prefixes are everywhere, like Mega , kilo and practical since you only need one letter when writing so correctly I should have written 50m" which looks very crappy. The new 50 metre-inch
3 mm is more like .120 inches
@@iNBiSiLe it was an approximation
Never thought I'd be this excited to buy s lock haha. Great channel has made me realize how easily most locks are picked!
*Remember:* you are probably not safe just because you have bought a monster lock like this, because it is probably easier to go in through the (metaphorical?) window, (and now you have a bunch of extra glass to clean up).
Yep. Even window security bars are a convenient place to hook a chain to your pickup truck, pulling out your masonry.
+Sion yes, but a lot fewer criminals would be willing to break in through a window rather than a lock on the front door. Breaking in through a window is a lot more noticeable so quite a few people would turn away after realizing they couldnt get in through picking [or breaking] the lock on the front door.
Thats a good thing though. means you moved the weakness of your security from your front door lock to something like a window already making you not worth the effort compared to someone who has a much easier front door lock they can just break into.
The whole point of putting security on you stuff is so the guy next to you looks like a better target then you
@@johnbecker3116 I don't need to outrun the bear, just the fat kid
Get that high grade mesh that is meant to stop robbers but still looks like fly mesh/screen!
It's spooky how knowledgeable you are about locks and their history. Thanks for sharing!
Loving the simplicity of this lock. One day I'll think of a lock this clever, but I got nothing so far!
Maybe the LockPicking Lawyer and the JerryRigEverything guys share the same family tree, since their voices sound very similar, pleasant, soothing, and easy to listen to. ;)
"This is the lock picking lawyer"
"Scratches at a level 6, with deeper grooves at a level 7"
SAME ENERGY
JerryRigEverything: making fun of Apple
LockPicking Lawyer: making fun of master locks
Same general area?
This lock could also be fitted with many different anti-tamper features such as completing an electrcal alarm circuit if the back of the drum was touched in the wrong place or the zero-lift pin touched the top of it's chamber
Pretty sure the zero-lift pin wouldn't work because of the extra rotating cylinder in the lock mechanism that keeps all the pins fully pressed inward until the key or tensioner rotates it 180 degrees.
If LPL has difficulty, you know it is quality.
I wouldn't have known that electric pick gun was for professionals, glad they wrote it on the side!
lol
It's the money-maker!
Ok, NOW I'm impressed and SOLD. Bowley, Bowley, Bowley!
That's what he was paid to do. :)
I am not. There are plenty of much better, more simple and user friendly options.
@@jj981293486 Two months later and still no example?
@@jj981293486 Okay. Which ones do you propose?
There are some downsides though
1: the key looks really flimsy. And if the lockpicklawyer cant open it, your local locksmith wont be abled to help you either, especially because he probably wont have the blanks to replace the key.
2: If you ever give the key to someone else (to look after pets or whatever) youll also have to give them a users manual because its so cmplicated to open even with the key.
Your videos are so relaxing to watch
ikr . i mean i didn't even think lock or key as something to be this relaxed to watch... its just him that make this video so good to accompany me to sleep
Totaly agree! with you RH
Sometimes late at night I don't even watch I just listen, love the commentary, the clicks. So soothing, better than white noise or sleep sound apps 😂
Bad thing is, his videos make me want to give picking a try. I know it would be so inept in comparison that after struggling on my first and only lock for a few hours with out picking it. That i would drop it and the picks in a drawer and never pick them up again.
I love that Lock designs are regressing back to ancient Roman and Greek designs and comcepts
In all honesty I like having your videos on in the background, your voice is actually very soothing and calming. Thanks mate!
This lock is actually extremely big brain.
Hi! I am an absolut amateur but what I could imagine that could work would be a set of 5 picks each with a deep groove on one of the pins for the no tolerance pins and on the other pins a slight ramp going from left to right. With these you could bump the lock not by going front to back but by fast wiggling in a rotation movement.
Thank you for many very entertaining and very educating videos. I love to watch your channel!
Greetings from Germany,
Phi
Great job Bowley!!!! Thanks for providing us with a great safety feature for our homes!
Interesting keys, especially when you get them caught in your pocket. Hopefully they come with a hardshell keycase.
A latch-key kid might end up with an unintentional very sensitively-placed piercing if they're not careful!
There's barely anything going on here, mechanically! -- although that is one of the hallmarks of good mechanical design.
*Clicks video*
*looks at time*
SEVENTEEN MINUTES!!!?
This actually has some similarity with the design that Stuff Made Here came up with. Great minds think alike!
Stuff Made Here made a couple of great locks... but this is WAY beyond those.
I'd even guess that that forthcoming Bowler was a response to his second lock.
I was just thinking that
@@davidsloat1016 His locks are still far more prototypes. They do work on similar principles of needing rotation to test the key, but in this lock's case, the entire pin and sheer line thing is offset while stuff made here's lock has only the sheer line offset.
Canadian here.
LPL makes me proud.
He essentially said what our Canadian company made is next to unpickable.
No complement is greater than that from such an esteemed and respected locksmith as the LPL.
The fuck are you proud of? You didn't do shit.
So you're proud of an accomplishment you had nothing to do with because that guy is also from Canada? Checks out
I truly wonder how many thieves have skills beyond cutting the lock (or chain) that would lead them to immediately seek other methods of destructive entry (eg breaching door jambs, hinge removal, etc.) An impenetrable lock - while important of course - would just mean efforts at entry become more simplistic and destructive. All of which points to the importance of hardening all areas of ingress plus monitoring. Fantastic content and perhaps the most educational channel on YT. As a lawyer I guess most of his cases are open and shut...😏
Put a titanium door and let the thief just smash his way in through the walls
I don’t care if they break in and steal stuff, I’ve got good insurance. But insurance often won’t cover a picked lock break in since there’s no proof and they’ll assume insurance fraud. If there’s destructive entry you’re pretty much guaranteed to be covered by insurance, and that’s what matters to me.
the lock isn't always gonna go on a house, you know
Seems like a lishi tool could be produced for this.
@@nerdsunscripted624 Very good point.
I’ve had one on my door for about a month and it’s just like using a regular key now. Took a couple days to get used to. Strong key too, I don’t think I could bend it without pliers.
Thank you again. I am no Locksmith, but strangely enough, we moved into a house that was owned by one and we still get Locksmith mail. My skills are in engineering and I love the videos (long or short) on all these wonderful mechanisms. So much of this knowledge carries over into all sorts of latches, fasteners, and other containment systems.