My sex ed class was separated by gender in 5th grade. In 7th grade, the teacher gave everyone a big paper heart and we were told to tear up pieces to share with others. At the end of that phase, we were paired up and made to exchange whatever was left of our heart woth a partner. This was used to explain how if you have sex with lots of people, there's less of you to give to your future partner. Which, you know... gross.
@@Sax_Banana "Awwwww, man! Mum, Dad, I'll never be as cool as Travis unless I go hang out at the G-Spot! All the other kids are having periods. I'm the last one not to!"
I have the sudden urge to open up a bar called The G-Spot. "Hey, Jerry I was trying to meet up last night- but I couldn't find the G-Spot" "Classic Dave!" *Seinfield ending song plays*
I no longer work for the schools, but last year I worked as a teacher's aid in a Florida school, and a teacher friend of mine came to me because she was worried that one of her trans students was getting bullied by the son of our resource officer. When she went to admin about it, the resource officer walked in and started talking about how we shouldn't be having these conversations in school anyway, and referred to the bill. This s*** is seriously affecting kids in Florida right now, as well as the teachers who fear for their jobs, and Don't know what to do when situations like this arise. My friend was so guilty about what happened, eventually she was able to correct the student, saying that it wasn't his place to talk to the other student that way, but the fact that we have to be so afraid to simply stop bullying in schools is a major problem, and just one symptom of how invasive these conservative attacks have become.
I’m a Floridian, I graduated from 12th in mid 2022, just a second before all this shit hit the fan. I just feel miserable knowing the next set of kids are walking right into a chokehold
All I remember from sex ed was the first day when the instructor said we were free to ask any questions we wanted and one of the people who bullied me asked about sex with animals. He was kicked out but I defended him because we were told to ask ANY questions.
Ah yes, the innocence of childhood. A truly innocent person can say the most depraved things without knowing there’s an issue. 😂 Reminds me of of a story about a couple of people blissfully unaware they were sinfully naked until they ate a piece of fruit. I wonder what other sinful hijinks ensued before they knew what they were doing was wrong. 🤔 OTOH, in today’s world a kid might have internet access and be unusually knowledgeable about such things. 😮
Like all addictions it all gets worse. I used to think weed didn’t lead to harder drugs but from first hand experience it does. It’s not everyone but its better you be warned and scared of potentially going down that road.
@Nina B. for sake of conversation- alcohol has pretty standard and known effects. A shot of hard alcohol is always a shot of hard alcohol. Beer has roughly the same alcohol content, so the effects are more or less known in advance; drugs are much harder to plan ahead for, not to mention completely unregulated. Buying weed from a stranger puts a lot of trust that it's not only laced with something harder but also that the THC content is roughly what you're used to. I'm not making an argument for or against legalization, just saying, you can never be too sure with hard drugs unless you've made or grown it yourself.
"Screw you Ronald Reagan" I didn't even need the specific reason, it's just always a proportionate and reasonable thing to say when presented with any aspect of the modern world in the US and its lapdogs across the seas
Ironically, it’s the attitudes of these “think of the children” people that has been most harmful to my child. Just before Christmas we were telling our 10 year old that someone who would be attending was going by a new name and pronouns, but that they weren’t “out” to their own family. It was the idea that there was something a person could be that hurt their relationship with their parents that really worried him. It took a lot of reassurance that we would accept him no matter what.
@@aisjda2600 Nah, the kid gave himself one by thinking about what he learned. This is something that happens a lot when you have sentience and are capable of higher thought and can question your existence.
This is where other people's kids come into play. Barring some sort of mass sterilization there will always be children to use as fodder in the Culture Wars.
Yes, that's why we have this ever-ascalating list of scary "oppressions" we need to 'educate' children to fear- Racism and sexism were once real, impactful issues... But society improved to the point that "micro-aggressions" and stuff like "cultural appropriation" and "manspreading' were the scaryest threats we could muster up. But NOW we've gone through the looking-glass, to the point where 100% objectively accurate identification of evidence-based sex is "scary" and "hateful" and "bigotted"... And now it's also scary and bad to NOT define the world entirely based on sexual stereotypes- "A woman" is no longer "any adult han females, regardless of WHAT she is doing, wearing, saying, etc..." Instead, TODAY "a woman" is "a person of ANY sex, who performs the STEREOTYPES culturally-associated with womanhood- Wearing dresses, and make-up, and shopping, and giggling, and liking pink, frilly things, and prefering rom-coms to action movies..." And to NOT identify"women" based solely on adherence to that stereotype, is now"scary" and "bad", and 'transphobic". And in five more years, there'll be some NEW standard, even MORE contradictory to the genuine opposition to racism/sexism/homophobia that we pursued in the 20th century... Maintaining "scary threats" is more important than simple, evidence-based truth, or sexual equality.
What, no? Children don't just disappear after a few years lol. We always have children so they always use them. They just change what the new threat to them is every year or so.
Pretty much. Who they going to be appeal to in 20 year's time? From what I've seen, it's expensive to have kids and people are copping out of that "luxury" now. What politicians going to do then?
@@gigisilk798 We will have too many elderly then so the politicians will try to appeal to them, it's working really well in countries with rapidly aging populations e.g. Poland.
Did up to grade 10 (halfway through IGCSE) in Zambia before being sent to the UK for the last three years of my schooling. My Sex-Ed in Zambia was largely: People will tell you that condoms will make you safe, but the only way to not die of AIDS is to never have sex (in fairness, this was pre-ARVs, and Zambia was quite badly affected by HIV). In grade 11/fifth form in the UK, we were segregated for the only sex-ed session we had, which was basically a slightly loopy history teacher saying: "You are a male, with shameful and degrading urges, you are a threat to all women around you and should remove yourself from any social situation involving a woman. If a woman is walking, you must cross the street to avoid her. If you ever buy a woman flowers, you are a sexual predator." And there were definitely ideas in there that teenage boys should have had, but I think there probably is a way of putting that across that doesn't make boys that being male is a fundamental flaw in their character. In sixth form, in addition to the psychology teacher being a great person for just answering any questions anyone had without making them feel like trash, a much less loopy lady did do a morning explaining condoms and tube tying and vasectomy and coils, and the side-effects of contraceptive pills on women compared to the side effects of pregnancy, and it felt like a revelation that sex-ed could not be terrifying and shaming.
Yikes. That's so fucked up. Can't we teach young boys that sexual predators are bad without making those poor souls think that they were born as human garbage? Women are treated as garbage in several countries, which should be avoided, but this is just as bad. My heart goes out to you and every youngster that has ever been shamed for being born as a man or woman. We need more teachers like the one you described.
Thank you for this. It's a really scary time for gay people at the moment and I appreciate any time someone outside of the community advocates for sanity.
rubbish. you should sit down with your elders in the gay community. they are the people who stood proud during a scary time for the community, so that you can cry because everyone doesnt want to agree with you.
I went to public school in Texas. We didn’t even really get abstinence only, my school’s attitude was essentially that’s your parent’s responsibility and to skip gonads in 9th grade biology
@@crissyhutto8409 A real word spelled wrong isn't going to get picked up by spell check. You could have commented on the education system of Texas and the inability to differentiate words, but you chose poorly.
Lmao I got y’all beat In my sophomore year health class, they barely taught us about condoms and contraceptives (maybe like a class worth). What they did instead was being an outside group in to teach us to be abstinent. They lady who ran the thing made us ANALYZE Ed Sheeran’s song “shape of you” because the song promoted having sex before starting a relationship, we had to say how the song was wrong and how we should go on about our relationships. She gave us heart shaped lollipops that said “real love waits” and “abstinence before marriage” on the stick. I really hope someone sees this because that was the cringiest health class I’ve ever had to take.
lmao i am so sorry 😂 (i am genuinely sorry but having to analyse 'shape of you' is one of the dumbest sex ed things i'v ever heard and I can't stop laughing)
Kinda had a similar experience in my school, only i grew up around EXTREME poverty, so the first person to have a kid in our generation group was in 7th grade.
@@Illier1 I was sexually abused for 6 years as a kid. 3 times my abuser nearly killed me. When I told my RELIGIOUS parents about it, they said that I should just forgive & forget, or God will send me to hell. You might want to think about that before opening your mouth to me. But seriously, you really think that those Republican politicians, Q-jerks & Faux News guys care about your kids? Grow up and grow some brain cells... or are you afraid of "God's wrath", too?
@@Dan-ud8hz It's the liberals lie about their agenda! They're the fascists! They're the ones converting our children! They're the ones with hateful rhetoric! They tried to steal the election and lie about it on national television! I have absolutely no idea how your average conservative doesn't collapse into a singularity under the weight of their own cognitive dissonance.
I'm so glad I grew up in a world dominated by "think of the children" rhetoric. Sure, I didn't have any effective education about sexuality, drug dependency, mental health or how to handle anxiety and depression, all of which would have been really helpful when I became an adult and found out I was too close to the poverty line to ever really make it out of that black hole. But at least when I had to hide under my desk during those active shooter drills, I didn't have to think of my gay friends as actual humans with souls. ......fuck I need a drink......
They struck gold with this one. This is so much better pretext than "searching for Weapons of mass destruction". The people of America have never been more eager to hand over all their freedoms if it means catching one predator. That is.. as long as that predator isn't a priest. That profession oddly enough is free of suspicion.
6:07 Correction; bones of children are not brittle. They are actually more like rubber the younger the child is. They are perfectly fit for tight places where adults can't reach.
@@TheModdedwarfare3 I think that Ohio just passed a bill legalizing that again.. 😢 I made that up and it isn’t true but sadly in current day America I shouldn’t even joke about it because the GOP may read this and seriously do it
So most of the time children are used in politics, it’s in the form of “keep the children ignorant by banning stuff we don’t want them to know”, there are times when children of certain ages shouldn’t have access to certain knowledge (which is why movies and games have age ratings) but most politicians just use this as “we don’t like this, thus we don’t want our kids to know about this so that they can have the same political view as us”
@ifer lyf not true. Children especially toddlers ask tons of questions about everything. However just because they doesn't mean they need to know the answer.
False. Knowledge is NEVER a bad thing. Arm your children with information, not fear. I'd have made a lot less mistakes with sex and drugs if I was more informed as a child. I still sought out knowledge on my own, but I couldn't account for everything.
I maintain that most of the people yelling about “grooming” in schools would freak tf out if schools started teaching kids how to identify and protect themselves from abusive relationships.
I think something briefly mentioned which would be interesting to be explored in a future video would be the impact of socio-economic class on children's assertion of themselves as autonomous actors and reception the difference in reception they receive from authority. I don't think I was alone when I was younger in feeling a disconnect between myself from a poor family and the almost always middle class or above faces of children's movements.
+1. This should also be explored through the lens of music. It's no coincidence that you almost never see emo/goth black kids/teens. Counter cultures are incredibly important developmentally.
+1 Deep truth Like mentioned, its also the case in music So many counter culture artists being brought to light because the family had connections Then we are told "if you work hard enough you'll get there" Faaaaaaackkkk
@@xavlamou4401 that's not exactly what I meant but yes you need to have connections or otherwise be lucky in order to be successful under capitalism. I was more referring to the fans of music. White kids usually tend to gravitate towards rock and punk genres while black kids gravitate towards hip hop. Both have similar messages of rebellion, but white music always allows for far more expressive forms of rebellion. Like makeup and piercings and colored/long/spikey hair. Hell even ICP which is basically hip hop for white kids paint their face.
As the middle class kid, I always had to be careful with who I played with because if mamma found out I played with the wrong people, she would make me friendship breakup with them in front of her. I had to do twice, and her reasons was one family smoked, and the others family had a trashy yard (their brother was actively repairing his car in the front yard) and that I can’t associate with trashy people or else I’d be trash. So I gave up on having friends and telling her about them if they weren’t perfect
@@adelai3795 my parents never went as far as forcing me to break up with people in front of them but they were definitely very judgy and sometimes flat out racist. Then again the reason I never went through those situations might be because I learned very early on to live a secret life from my parents. From the time I was at least 12 they had no idea who I hung out with, where I did it, how I acted, talked, dressed, etc. This is what happens when you're controlling and overprotective. It will ALWAYS backfire. Just talk to your kids man lol it's not that hard. If you can't do it, then talk to a therapist first.
In high school, I think it was Parrenting class but it could of been Contemperary Living since I had the same teacher. We were learning that the only way to prevent pregnancy was to not have sex. Matt or Pat since both sat behind me asked about condoms. The teacher got super quiet and said "We cannot talk about those, but they exist." Thank you Matt or Pat for bringing light to something I didn't know much about. As an adult some almost 20 years later I still remember this moment and can feel our teacher wanting to give us correct info but not being able to.
Fun pop culture fact: on the Batman tv show from the 60's, while running against The Penguin for mayor of Gotham, some people got mad at Batman for refusing to kiss some babies, arguing it was to protect the children from bacteria and etcetera; The Penguin did kiss the babies, though, which was a sign of his hypocrisy (I think).
I attended an adventist of the seventh day school. But despite that, around 6 or 7 grade we were shown a cartoon that was VERY explicit about it. Moaning and all. The class was dead silent. It ended with fireworks. It dispelled many doubts we had, specially the pissing part. I dont remember any parents complaining about it. Maybe because most were relieved they didnt need to have "the talk" anymore.
What country are u from if u don’t mind me asking. Bc here in the USA Christian parents hate for children to learn anything that will promote autonomy and critical thinking
@@ts4743 Im from Chile. But the story is from the 90s. Its weird because we also got our good share of anti abortion propaganda. So its not like we were super progresive or anything.
I studied in a Catholic school here in Brazil, composed of nuns (as "owners" of the school, they are not teachers or anything pedagogical related, and I'm a man, it was not a "girls' school"). So the only time I remember something related to sex ed that was not in the biology class was one lecture, where all the school was present... some woman (she was not a nun) would talk about things... I don't remember what age I was, but I was old enough to think that was bizarre. The woman showed us some "abortion" photos and videos, ugly stuff. she said that USE CONDOMS WAS ABORTION, just like ANY CONTRACEPTIVE METHOD, with the exception of the "table" (I don't know what people call it in English, but that method of "making sex in the days the woman are most infertile") and pull off. I was very young and that sound bizarre to me, because my parents and, well, everywhere else always said to use condoms, and that condoms were good. them she said that no one should have sex before marriage. I remember just laughing at this part. not that I would have sex for years after that, but I knew that the motive was not because she said something, but because I was just a small skinny ugly nerd, and people who were not small skinny ugly nerds would not avoid sex too. my friends and I just started to bet how many teenage pregnancies we would have in school... And what I found even more bizarre was that a surprising number of kids believed that condom was abortion. well, was not a big number, but more than I expected (I expected something between 0 and 5 in the entire school because it was a time that the government was really trying to take down the number of teenage pregnancies, condom propaganda was everywhere).
"table" (I don't know what people call it in English, but that method of "making sex in the days the woman are most infertile") Usually rhythm method, though there are some more technical names. "pull off" "Your hammer pulls you off?!" Pull out. Pulling off is slang for male self pleasuring.
Oddly, all the grooming I underwent as a child was perpetrated by the faiths, institutions, and societal groups that many of the current fear-mongerers affiliate with and/or proclaim an allegiance to. Years of suicidal ideation resulted. I believe that the best way to "save the children" is to recognize as adults that "our way" may not be everyone's way.
Catholic School Kid here: Same issue with sex education. I learned everything "real" from a peer on a bus. School taught me that heavy petting caused pregnancy which as a kid I didn't have any idea what heavy petting was. The sex education teacher was a lonely person of the clergy, a person who didn't get laid and had a bias. So I learned nothing productive.
I'm a Malaysian who studied at a chinese independent secondary school. For each grade, we had a (I forgot half an hour or an hour) class called "Counseling class" It was kind of like class group counseling, it wasn't a class with exams and whatnot, of course. We had to keep a journal for the class, with class activities that might require us to write down stuff. Flipping through my Junior 1 (age 13, this was 2014) journal, at the start, there's "'Introducing yourself", "How I see myself", "Friends that you have made half a year in". Also like, yeah, I was not mistaken. So when I was 12, we were taught about effects of puberty minus anything about our sex organs, but in Junior 1 (13), I was taught about the development of sex organs somewhat thoroughly in like an academic way. Stuff like penetration, ejaculation, fertilization. I would think that it was enough to start off on, so no sex positions, ways to pleasure or whatnot. (Is that even proper to be taught in school? Like, huh, I never really considered that, I guess teaching about BJs in school is quite weird.) But also what happens/is done is explained, but not how or why something happens (basically stuff reserved for science-stream students in biology class) An example would be the counselor explaining that stimulation can cause ejaculation, but not that stimulation causes nerves to send to the brain though nerves x and y. (I myself am simplifying these classes quite a bit here.) Now whether there was anything wrong with those class segments, I sadly only vaguely remember some of them. Though I do remember the counseling classes being quite chill about homosexuality, though I have no memory of the topic of being transgender being brought up. I guess I wouldn't be surprised if there was like a short mention of it. Also like, huh, I guess we were done with sex ed by age 15 in terms of counseling class. I don't see anything about it written down after that. Also, we weren't split into male/female classes for these topics. The idea would be everyone should know how it works, no matter if it's sex ed about your own sex or those of the opposite sex. (Writing this as I side-eye every single person who has said that high school maths shouldn't be taught and that it's useless even as these people can't even do order of operation right.)
My Sex Ed teacher was utterly horrendous. She had a friend that had been the victim of sexual assault and took it upon herself to scare everyone into thinking sex would get you killed. We even watched MULTIPLE movies that focused on AIDs/HIV transmission that were entirely unapproved by the school and that entirely misrepresented the disease. She even repeatedly told us a story about someone being sodomized with a baseball bat. I'm surprised I can stand next to a female and not run in horror.
As a trans woman on gab, I know all too well that we are heavily used as a scapegoat and that the discourse surrounding this is leading to real-world harm of vulnerable people.
Yeah. It makes me sad normal people like us are demonized and it makes it hard for us to do things without being treated terribly. Been faced with a lot of hate online for just openly being Trans and have been called things like a groomer just for...existing and being open about my existence
@@lssjgaming1599 So true. Obsessing over trans identity has been the number one priority of the right for the past 18 months, but their insistence on shutting me up inspires me to be more vocal. I am a former trans kid, and a current trans adult who wants children to be happy and healthy.
I remember in eighth health the entire class being handed a book on sex ed, which we were to read silently by ourselves. I didn't actually read it. I was already bullied and ostracized by my peers, and I knew all it would take was one little douche bag looking over my shoulder and screaming, "EW SHE'S LOOKING AT BOOBS!" to make my life even more hellish than it already was.
My 8th Grade Georgia state sex ed involved one great example. Everyone had a cup of water, then a bunch of boys spit some of their water into a girl's cup. Then the boys were asked if they would want to drink that water. The implicit lesson being girls who have sex with a bunch of boys are icky and not desirable. We also signed papers with fellow classmates as witnesses to stay obstinate until marriage.
100%. Kids 9 and 10yo, in perfect physical health, being chemically sterilized (yes, literally; Google "Lupron side effects", if you swallowed the provable lie of "safe, reversable puberty-blockers". They're literally the exact drug used to chemically-castrate sex offenders), based on ZERO empirical evidence, but SOLELY justified by "just a social construct", is far worse child abuse, often objectively more physiologically damaging, than Islamic female genital mutilation. Throwing healthy children under the bus of lifelong physical harm- Loss of adult fertitity, loss of adult sexual function, commiting an initially- healthy child to a 100% medically-unneccessary lifelong dependance on life-shortening wrong-sex hormones, that their body can't properly process, all just to POLITICALLY leverage these children for evidence-free "gender" ideology, is some of the worst violation of basic human rights that's happened in the West, for decades. (As well as utter violation of "first do no harm", in some of the worst ways possiible) The idea that a child not conforming to the stereotypes of their own sex, and/or preferring opposite-sex stereotypes, is (somehow?) a terrible """problem""", that requires """treatment""" with documented-harmful drugs like puberty-blockers, trying to deliberately chemically-stunt the normal, natural growth of a healthy kid, is the most fvcked-up, socially-regressive imaginable. The ideology claims to "OPPOSE gender stereotypes". But IRL, it observably, demonstrably PROMOTES and ENFORCES gender stereotypes, via harmful, unneccessary drugs (and unnecessary surgery). It actively fights to destroy evidence-based definitions for terms like "man"/"woman"/"boy"/"girl", and wants these objective, evidence-based definitions ENTIRELY replaced by conformity to sexual stereotypes- "If you imitate the stereotypes of [x], then you (somehow?) BECOME [x]!!!" It's a bizarre, harmful, pseudo-religious, 100% faith-based claim with no basis in facts, evidence or empirical science, at all. People have no idea what even endorsing, in this clownshow- Look at the physical harm (both chemical AND surgical mutilation. All 100% medically unneccessary) suffered by Chloe Cole or Jazz Jennings, years before they could give MEANINGFULL CONSENT to the (again 100% medically-unnecessary; Never anything physiologically wrong with EITHER kid.. not except the stuff CAUSED by the needless drugs/surgery ..) irreversable harm done to their own body. No child should have their body/rights violated like that, for ANY reason... And ESPECIALLY not in service of a political agenda, that scumbag adult are pursuing (which is justified by zero evidence, besides "just a social construct").
I live in Florida and went to school from kindergarten to college level. My high school did “sex ed” was all the std/sti that we could get, don’t have sex until marriage or you could die, and they refused to answer any questions about actual sex; condoms/the pill are for married couples that don’t want children. In 8th grade we discussed the scientific aspect of sex, as in sperm fertilized egg….
My moral and religious education teacher was a priest, so when sex Ed time came along, we got a new teacher temporarily. I don't think kids are inherently innocent. I point to the video of the kids dousing s puppy with gasoline and setting it on fire. I think they were 10, above the age that children develop empathy.
Innocence is just a lack of knowing stuff Children are no better or worse than adults morally, tho adults can be more stuck in their ways, and children have underdeveloped brains that make empathy and self restraint harder
Children don't magically develop empathy at a given age. Just like you don't develop a sense of right and wrong and the ability to make good decision when you turn 18 or 21. These milestones are largely arbitrary and meant o be averages. In reality, a child from a good home can learn empathy at the age of 2, whereas a child from a bad home can go well into adulthood without having empathy.
@@Ace-pc2cm Milestones are always going to be arbitrary but I think there really is a biological element. We can’t “teach” a moral impulse, we can only teach the culturally appropriate expression of those impulses.
Won't someone just think of the children. Legit: if you try to get adults to do a basic thing to save kids (who they don't know) lives, they won't. Child poverty, education, immigration, housing, etc.
Same kinds of people that get angry at M&Ms for not being sexy anymore but not angry at their parent corporation, Mars, for using child slavery to produce their chocolate.
@Areno Im angry at both. However I've noticed a lot of people who put effort into saying why others discussing how M&M's look is a waste of time are noticibly silent on the child labour, poor working conditions & other larger issues they claim to think are worth peoples time.
@@arenomusic The average voter has a 30 second attention span and can't understand the downstream effects of policy. They pick an Infotainment scheme that matches their preconceived notions/personality types/pathologies and then pretends they're being given the full picture. Being disappointed in them is a waste of your time, they're literally doing the best they can with the society and tools available to them.
My Sex Ed class was pretty basic. I don't recall it being segregated either. It was mostly "penis goes in vagina, sperm fertilizes egg, nine months later you have a baby. If you MUST have sex, then please use a condom." with maybe some other stuff about STDs mixed in. It wasn't treated as some hush-hush thing but it was very much just the mechanical aspects of it.
we had a question box that we could put questions we were too afraid to ask in the middle of class and it would be answered anonymously to the rest of the class. My friend John put in "if I have a thirst for Mountain Dew will Mellow Yellow quench it?". They took away the question box from us after that.
What you miss is that children (actual children, not teenagers about to graduate high school)... aren't autonomous individuals. They are becoming that. Including them in the political process sounds nice, but in effect what you'd get is parents using their children as their mouthpiece. Fully agree on the rest though, I've thought about the fetishizing of innocence in children myself and find it fascinating, great video as always :)
That is because child and drag shows shouldn't go together like children and strip clubs. Check out Gays against groomers and see what has happened to them.
@@nannerhannah3268 I personally wouldn't take my child to a drag show, but comparing it to them being molested just makes me feel like you hate the performers rather than care for the children.
@@nannerhannah3268 Most drag shows have nothing sexual. It's not that different than seeing a play where the actors dress up or getting a clown for a birthday party. Are you also against taking kids to see the Lion King where people dress as animals? And children going to drag shows happens far less often than children beauty pagents and church sexual abuse.
@KingOfMadCows not even close to true. Haven't you seen the videos?? Dudes with gaint fake tits, simulated sex scenes, thongs, skirts that don't go past the butt. It is extremely sexual, drag has always been sexual. It isn't a place for children, the dances they do are sexual and the same dances that strippers do. The drag shows today are also getting more sexual, more extreme. You have drag kids, kids going up on stage dancing for grown adults as they hand the kids dollar bills. That is grooming. That is grooming and they are children.
Kids are so easily treated as tools for all sorts of things. I think this is going to become more of a talking point in the next decades. The most common example of this is kids being treated as extensions of their parents, which totally happened to me. It can range from no big deal to a huge deal! Because kids are individuals, not blank slates for you to put whatever you want on them!
A really powerful image is during the Capitol Crawl when a disabled 8-year old was crawling up the steps of the Capitol building in DC to help pass the American with Disabilities Act.
I do not recall having sex ed in School here in Brazil. However I do remember how the church was paranoid by telling you that that was a sin, you should pray until God respond if that girl you're up was "The One". Needless to say the ones that ignored it were far more happier, and I myself ended up in a psychologist after my first girlfriend dumped me. Also there are still 30 something years old waiting for "The One". I now see this was a diservice for those people, including me and do not intend to pass it foward to my son.
The problem isn't exactly believing in lies like "the one". The problem is attaching sex to love, which is extremely unhealthy. Sex is a biological process that is entirely unrelated to love. Linking the two makes it difficult to fulfill biological needs without the emotional component.
As a parent, I believe that children are born pure and innocent, loving and wanting to be loved. Then they are taught to fear and hate whatever "other" we teach them to fear and hate .
They become a projection of their parent's values and society's values. They are treated a certain way and feel justified in treating other people similarly
Yeah this idea that children being innocence is some sort of … political agenda… is really stupid. Children are innocent by definition. Conflating small children with teenagers the way this video did is incredibly disingenuous and manipulative
It still boils down to a class distinction between those kids deemed "economically useless" and the "emotionally priceless" even now. It's still a privilege to have access to knowledge, to be able to decide one's own gender identity and be supported for it, and to have the means and financial stability to pursue higher education and better employment. Republicans are concerned with the preservation of "childhood" insofar as it shields THEIR children from the harsh realities of society writ large, and gives them incalculable advantages and a leg up on everyone. It's not designed to protect EVERY child from imagined predation and mature discussions on race and sex, just the whitest, richest, and well-connected ones.
My Sex ed class in Ireland was our grade 6 in 2010. It was a cartoon about the core basics of reproduction, erections, and menstrual cycles. I think we were divided by gender but I cant really remember. At the end of the video, I asked ' How does a condom work?' the nurse told Me we would find that out in another 3 years. I was 12
I love how it's always "won't someone please think of the children!" But I've VERY rarely seen them ACTUALLY ask the children in question. Other than teen oriented outlets like Teen Vogue, the only person I've seen ask what teens think was Kamau Bell on United Shades of America. I hope I'm super wrong and just don't watch enough TV.
Totally down to protect children. That being said, that requires immediately abolishing the Catholic & Baptist Church (they have a clear track record of child abuse), outlawing things like child beauty pageants, and requiring places like Hooters be exclusively 18+ If you say you "care about the children" and don't 100% support these common sense suggestions.... well, your opinions are nonsense
Plus raise the age of consent to 18, abolish baby/child circumcision (unless medically required), and do something/anything about school/mass shootings.
@@Blue2x2x I always forget about circumcision. That's another one that's an open and shut case. "No Karen, you are not allowed to physically mutilate a baby"
Very important video. Protecting childhood innocence at all cost leads to cringe outcomes. I'm not saying we should expose them to porn or violence, but sheltering them from all hardships and pretending that the world is all flowers and ponies will either give them a pretty hard time adapting to real life or build great mistrust and resentment towards us. Children get way more than we think. I'm a big advocate for treating kids seriously from my own experiences, as I am still really mad about things that happened -teen years ago (it's my 23rd birthday tomorrow 🥳), such as being unsuccesfully gaslighted by a psychologist. Children are people. Fragile, inexperienced and not fully developed people who should be treated delicately and with love and care, but people nevertheless
There’s a real tension between “children are people, too” and “children are ignorant and easily mislead”. They definitely aren’t capable of making informed decisions about what is best for their own futures, so should they be allowed political agency? It’s not an easy decision.
This is deeply rooted in ableism as well. Those with intellectual disabilities are often denied autonomy. We can actually think of children as being disabled under the social model of disability
Maturity and the ability to make informed decisions stems from being allowed access to knowledge and experience by those in power. It's not that children are stupid. At least not any more stupid than their elders. The problem is that American culture goes out of its way to shield children from the information and very real dangers the world contains. Causing ignorance. Ignorance so profound that a vast number of voters and even politicians lack a functional knowledge of how the world really works as adults.
To be fair, many adults I know have incredibly poor judgment and probably don’t deserve to have a say themselves compared to children with alarmingly high levels of insight. And another point: one of the political paradigms of us choosing representatives and senators is that they will make decisions for our best interest when we really frankly don’t understand or know about the topic at hand. That they will vote against our wishes because they know better than us. At least as far as senators go, where they act in the role of a “trustee” versus a representative as a “delegate.” So it logically follows that, if we employ the trustee model and we have a decision maker acting for us when we don’t know better, why can’t children participate to pick these trustees like the adults do?
@@Soletestament I want to clarify that I was not calling children stupid, but rather asserting that they lack the knowledge and experience to know both what is wise and what is true.
@@cjboyo I strongly disagree with conflating children with the mentally disabled. Children can be brilliant, they simply haven’t had time to develop their talents. Dealing with disability involves finding alternatives and methods of mitigation-ways to circumvent the difficulties imposed. Dealing with ignorance is mostly about education and experience, it can be overcome and eliminated with time and effort. Each form of treatment is mutually exclusive, and choosing the wrong one is actively detrimental to the subject.
My mother was a registered nurse and there was no way in hell she was going to have a child completely ignorant of their body. When you start small by just teaching a kid basic anatomy, they will be mature enough to have conversations about sex and STI as a teen with waaay less awkwardness. My mum never made me feel shamed for discussing all the bodily torture that is puberty. My school's health class in 5th grade skipped sex talk beyond decribing the mechanical life cycle of it all. They taught anatomy and kinda implied you'll definetely get STIs from sex the first time. The teacher also deliberately left out where the swimmers go when they leave "home." It's just out of man and magically into an egg and boom a baby.... Now you know why my mum home schooled me for this.
I remember reproduction being discussed in class in the 5th grade and my teacher was talking about women having eggs and guys fertilizing them. I was totally clueless and raised my hand to ask how the sperm got to the eggs. My teacher told me if I was serious I could ask him later. At recess a kid gave me an answer, but I thought he was lying because there was no way my mom would do something like that, certainly not with my Dad, and not four times as I had three brothers. Years later I somewhat reluctantly came around to the idea that something like that may have actually happened. Thank God today, due to the progress of science and technology, kids can now now believe that they were made in a lab.
@@zachharkins6930 Yeah. I remember a scifi story in a book named Dark Closet on Amazon where test tube babies were the norm and ppl who had births naturally were seen as weird, or even abusive, since there was more risk to the baby.
5th grade was the only time I saw boys and girls separated for sex education. After that, Health Class had "Family Life Education," which was a neat way to sneak the instruction past the squeamish parents.
@@MrGert150 I'm sure you're a great parent, but lots of parents suck at teaching kids too :/ it's not like becoming a parent somehow turns you into a good educator, parents can often pass along their own lack of understanding to their children. To use a pop example, that ricky and morty episode where the parent didn't know pluto was no longer considered a planet. This happens with sex too, to incredibly damaging results, specially with female children. We need better educators, for sure, but I wouldn't trust every parent to be a good teacher.
@@MrGert150 I would say it definitely depends on the school. If I know that my child is going to get a proper education about how sex works from a professional and scientific perspective I would much rather a trained educator do it. I am not an expert by any stretch of the imagination and would be okay with someone trained in these things to teach it. If they're going to teach abstinence until marriage and that having multiple partners is bad or against God? I will pick up the slack... and probably complain about it at the next school board meeting.
I remember listening to a podcast about the foundation of the New York Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals in the late 19th century. *After* that organization started operating, they started the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children. Parents protested it, seeing it as an intrusion into their parental rights. The US is also one of the few UN members who didn't ratify the Convention on the Rights of Children, thanks in large part to the effort of fundamentalist homeschooling groups, for the same reason. There is a large block of people in the US who view their rights of control over their children as more important than their well-being or safety.
I attended a private school in Argentina. The worst memory I have about sex ed was one time that we watched a sex documentary about abortion, which depicted with great detail things like a bloody dead fetus. It was one of the most disturbing thigs I saw on film on my entire life. I think I was 14 at that time. Luckily things have changed and schools don't do those things anymore. Right now these practices are heavily criticized, but at that time it was just normal.
In Sex Ed, we were taught abstinence only. We were never taught about gender or sexuality. It was also heteronormative and cisnormative. I'm transfeminine and bi. So most of it was not useful to me. Lacking information on sex education required me to learn essentially everything on my own. And abstinence only education has been shown to have higher underage pregnancy rates, and spread of STIs since they aren't taught about contraceptives, and that they are safe when used responsibly. I remember being taught that I needed to abstain till marriage and shown pictures of boils and genital warts to try to scare me into not having sex. And to the surprise of no one with knowledge on the data of abstinence sex ed vs contraceptive sex ed. We had a lot of pregnant teens at our high school. We weren't taught about how to revoke consent and maintain boundaries. Or how to watch out for red flags for someone who might be a domestic abuser, or who is more likely to commit sexual assault based on their behavior. How to find advocacy groups to help you get justice when you have dealt with SA. All things that would have been vastly more helpful than trying (and failing) at scaring us all into abstinence till marriage. Especially since I dealt with sexual assault at 16 years old. When I was still in high school and could have actually used that VERY helpful information. I'm 24 now.
In Canada (Quebec) in high school (2001 - 2006) we add a couple of sex ed class. it mostly concentrated on contraceptive mean (their advantage and disadvantage) STDs, how to prevent them and what treatment existed (emphasis on AIDs being deadly and incurable), normalization of the variety in sex organ shape and size and even how to make your first time go as painlessly as possible. Consent was extremely lightly touched (basically no means no and nothing more). All of it was mostly trough trough extremely cringy video and text but apparently it was a lot more then most commenter here had. It was utterly heteronormative, beside one "Gays! they exist, they are fine, actually 3 out of the 30 of you are probably going to discover they are by age 20." moment , every talk, every example and advice where entirely targeted at heterosexual couple.
My ex had a theory that the longer a child is allowed to be just a child, the longer the person lives. I'm all about striking a balance. Let children be children in a real world.
I remember when flavored cigarettes were banned. I was in university at the time. Some politician made a statement about ‘protecting children and YOUNG WOMEN.’ That comment pissed me off so much; despite never being a smoker, I did not want nor need some old man protecting me from my own agency and choices.
We had sex ed (downstate NY) in the beginning part of 7th grade - when we were 12, and I believe others may get it sometime during 6th grade, perhaps second half of the school years and that is at 11 years old. It's like people turn 30 and entirely forget what they were going through biologically at ages starting at 10yo. Puberty and the teen years that follow are a thing, and those are not kids, and they are not adults. Why it's so hard for people to realize that is beyond me. People apparently cannot handle more than two boxes for which to shover everyone in - its gay vs straight, man vs woman, adult vs child, PS vs Xbox, left vs right; and how dare you think of things outside of that. "wait did you just say that teenagers are not children - you monster!" is a likely, real reaction to my post, btw. Of course, people on "think of" them when it's convenient and will work. Never mind the damage a lot of that sort of thing does the mind of a gay or trans kid and teenager.
We didn't go into Edelman here (due to time) but we talked about his work a bunch in a previous video, and will likely get into it again in the future.
An insight from science and philosophy is: school, from the ancient greek "skholé", which means "idleness". It's not exactly about protecting their innocence but to protect them from external interests and provide free time and free space where they would be able to ellaborate and develop freely to achieve their best selves sociologically speaking (Masschelein, Maarten, 2017), their "areté" (Jaeger, 1936). Allowing them to explore their individualities, their particularities plainly, suspended from an opressive past, or an opressive context. Even Rousseau said in the mentioned book that "education is not about gaining time, but about loosing it". It is about having a dialogical relationship with them, without imposing the limitations of the adult world (Freire, 1962) for they represent a infinity of possibilities (Arendt, 1961) while we as adults are already far more limited than they are.
THANK YOU FOR TALKING ABOUT THIS WISECRACK! The fact of the matter is, banning gender affirming care for children will not fix child poverty, prevent child abuse, or strengthen families.
10:29 we had stuff in a few stages. 5th Grade we learned some basics and were separated via our assigned at birth genders and watch the corresponding videos. 6th Grade we got a refresher of the video from last year and then we saw the video for the opposite gender that we didn't see last time. Then around high school, it gets a little foggy. We got graphs and charts about the various parts of the different reproductive systems, learned about divorce, domestic violence, birth, abstinence, abortion and I think that's the rough round about that I remember. I think they said pretty much use a condom, but nothing about how to put one on or other details. I feel like I learned a lot more about the deeper stuff after graduating. Due to videos that were a lot funnier, elaborate or talked about by experts I think and said stuff that nobody really talked about that I think I might've wondered in the back of my head but never really said out loud or didn't know how to say out loud and stuff. Or just didn't think I could say becasue it felt rude to say or ask because it felt naughty/rude.
That was a big jump in time from Ancient Greece's conceptualization of children as innocent to the middle ages (a period known for it's disregard of virtues present in the previously mentioned historical era). There's a good reason they're also known as the dark ages.
Indonesian doesn't have sex-ed and we're in the middle of dilemma. In recent years, we realized that sexual harassment happened in every place including Islamic boarding school (the one place no one ever knew that would happen) but the subject is so taboo that people ignoring or even denying any open education and regulations regarding sexual orientation and activities. Scapegoating the victim (who is usually women) into the one that was doing the mistake cuz of their relationship, how they dressed, etc.
@@oefspcedwards next you're going to tell me you have PhD in underwater basket weaving. I'm sorry you've wasted your life. Please tell me the title of this book! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Oh god I hated my sex ed growing up, In 5th-6th grade we learned about puberty. Mostly about things like BO and hair growing, and a brief mention of erections, but any actual discussion about sex was non existent. Then in 9th grade health we had some sex ed talks, but it still never talked about the actual process of sex or even masturbation. We learned about the difficulties of being a teenage parent, had flash cards of all sexual diseases with pictures, and the benefits of abstinence. I did not know what masturbation, sex, or frankly many of the components involved until I was 18. My parents told me they just assumed I'd learn it from some other guys, and I was like, but we were raised being told that if we ever talked about it we'd spend eternity in hell being tortured by fire. They put my hand on an active burner to give me an idea of what being on fire will feel like. Why in any conceivable universe would 12 year old me start asking questions after that?! Somehow it's my fault I didn't learn more about sex because I didn't rebel against the dogmatic religious community I was raised in enough.
what exactly is wrong with allowing parents to raise their children that best fit there household and culture. The culture of colonization does not discriminate it seems, regardless of political leanings.
Sex ed for us was integrated into the required 9th grade health class. It was comprehensive, co-ed, matter of fact, and judgement free. For me the long term benefits were that I had a good understanding of my body, male bodies, and how conception and contraception works. I knew my options. I joined the Army, and when I had a boyfriend, I walked to sick call asking for oral contraception. I was determined not to get pregnant, and the sex ed class taught me that I had the power and right to make those choices. As for the Army, nobody batted an eye. It's cheaper give a young woman soldier the means to prevent pregnancy than it is to have her pregnant. But I didn't care how the Army benefited, I was just taking care of myself. Sadly I served with a lot of young women who did not understand their own bodies, including not understanding why they have periods, didn't know the word "uterus," Women who thought that pregnancy was inevitable and there was nothing they could do to prevent it. Before I graduated from high school, the school shrunk the sex ed course, made it sex segregated, and pushed abstinence only. Knowledge is power.
I'd love a second house of congress just for young people, where kids can vote for other kids to represent them and make laws that effect kids, or get rid of laws that effect kids. Sure, there should also be a check in there so things don't go out of control, but there is a check on congress as well.
I don't think there is one answer from a moral perspective. Kids are their own people, and should be able to pursue the things they want to do. However, while not as bad as people claim it is, there are others in the world that want to exploit them. So there is a balance between protection and freedom that does need to be talked about.
Michael, i see your funky style growing every episode. you're more fun and chill, cool, epic...🚬 not a sex ed story, but i'm from latin america and my school alone has had like 3-4 cases of teachers sleeping with students in the recent years 🤔 both male-female and female-male. i asked around my buddies that went to other schools and they told me a similar number. maybe we're apes here don't know. maybe we go full on goblin mode dunno. was this normal in your school?? i'm curious to hear from anyone in the comments. i remembered about this bc there was a case on my class, and the philosophy(lmao) teacher was involved. he was this wannabe dead poets society dude that used to tell us that we shouldn't be afraid to live our sexuality and so on. he was on that well known "philosophical" discourse that is just really a 40 year old man talking about sex to 17 year old girls and covering it up with pseudo intelectual points about freedom and how society repress us. so it was sorta sex ed, he used to bring up sex and the way we should live it a bunch (obviously, since he was on that pedofilio swagger). anyways i'm curious to see if this is normal stuff everywhere, so please answer 🥺 ps: i'll be on the quirky and jolly live podcast on thursday, i'm sure we will goof around the same amount as we will learn :^)
My dad was a colonel and a surgeon, who was quite forthright about the science of sex although I was probably a little young. As pediatric surgeon his main concern about children being abused was by family and as a glib man the clergy.
It all boils down to the fact that children are sweet, innocent, precious little things that have to be protected AT ALL COSTS against anything that doesn't line up with their parents' worldview... >_>
I graduated from high school in Florida 10 years ago. Even then, they didn't talk about sexual orientation. I literally didn't know what being gay was until I stumbled across it on the internet when I was 16 or so.
@@falconeshield It's okay. We have a Democrat president. You can relax. I mean yeah, we have record high inflation, on the brink of ww3, and are constantly fighting their tyrannical regulations, but yeah, atleast we have a Democrat president
My sex ed class consisted of trying to scare us into abstinence with horrific images of late stage stds in 7th grade.
I think we have been classmates
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@@silentsoldier3172 aww, surprise rando internet reunion
Our whole class/friend group just called them "the slides". Unpleasant day, that one...
My sex ed class was separated by gender in 5th grade.
In 7th grade, the teacher gave everyone a big paper heart and we were told to tear up pieces to share with others. At the end of that phase, we were paired up and made to exchange whatever was left of our heart woth a partner. This was used to explain how if you have sex with lots of people, there's less of you to give to your future partner.
Which, you know... gross.
Lmfao WTF?!
This isn’t uncommon at all. Same when I was a kid. For context, I’m 35
The sticky sucker analogy but with paper. Disgusting.
@@thegodplace7887 Did she explicitly say "virginity "? It wasn't a STD metaphor?
TIL: Having Sex is like Creating a Horcrux.
Up until I was 16, I thought the G-Spot was that place where all the cool kids hung out after school.
Well, technically……
@@mystuff9999 You're funny.
I want to hang out with my friends, but I can't because I can't find the G spot
@@Sax_Banana "Awwwww, man! Mum, Dad, I'll never be as cool as Travis unless I go hang out at the G-Spot! All the other kids are having periods. I'm the last one not to!"
I have the sudden urge to open up a bar called The G-Spot.
"Hey, Jerry I was trying to meet up last night- but I couldn't find the G-Spot"
"Classic Dave!"
*Seinfield ending song plays*
I no longer work for the schools, but last year I worked as a teacher's aid in a Florida school, and a teacher friend of mine came to me because she was worried that one of her trans students was getting bullied by the son of our resource officer. When she went to admin about it, the resource officer walked in and started talking about how we shouldn't be having these conversations in school anyway, and referred to the bill. This s*** is seriously affecting kids in Florida right now, as well as the teachers who fear for their jobs, and Don't know what to do when situations like this arise. My friend was so guilty about what happened, eventually she was able to correct the student, saying that it wasn't his place to talk to the other student that way, but the fact that we have to be so afraid to simply stop bullying in schools is a major problem, and just one symptom of how invasive these conservative attacks have become.
I’m a Floridian, I graduated from 12th in mid 2022, just a second before all this shit hit the fan. I just feel miserable knowing the next set of kids are walking right into a chokehold
It’s amazing how they don’t want to protect ALL children 🤔🤬
All I remember from sex ed was the first day when the instructor said we were free to ask any questions we wanted and one of the people who bullied me asked about sex with animals. He was kicked out but I defended him because we were told to ask ANY questions.
Ah yes, the innocence of childhood. A truly innocent person can say the most depraved things without knowing there’s an issue. 😂
Reminds me of of a story about a couple of people blissfully unaware they were sinfully naked until they ate a piece of fruit. I wonder what other sinful hijinks ensued before they knew what they were doing was wrong. 🤔
OTOH, in today’s world a kid might have internet access and be unusually knowledgeable about such things. 😮
Zoophiles be like
@@zemoxianYou don't need Internet access if you have older siblings. Seriously, I heard the worst stuff from kids with older brothers.
@@rachzen As the younger brother, it's not the elder that brought up inappropriate topics, it's the older brother's friends.
Sex Ed was wild for me. Had a teacher say that if we looked at porn it’s a gateway to beastiality and snuff films
Like all addictions it all gets worse. I used to think weed didn’t lead to harder drugs but from first hand experience it does. It’s not everyone but its better you be warned and scared of potentially going down that road.
@@MrGert150 Funny how this is always said for drugs but never for alcohol
it's not our fault you were home schooled.
@@falconeshield Alcohol can lead to alcoholism ofc
@Nina B. for sake of conversation- alcohol has pretty standard and known effects. A shot of hard alcohol is always a shot of hard alcohol. Beer has roughly the same alcohol content, so the effects are more or less known in advance; drugs are much harder to plan ahead for, not to mention completely unregulated. Buying weed from a stranger puts a lot of trust that it's not only laced with something harder but also that the THC content is roughly what you're used to. I'm not making an argument for or against legalization, just saying, you can never be too sure with hard drugs unless you've made or grown it yourself.
"Screw you Ronald Reagan"
I didn't even need the specific reason, it's just always a proportionate and reasonable thing to say when presented with any aspect of the modern world in the US and its lapdogs across the seas
Ironically, it’s the attitudes of these “think of the children” people that has been most harmful to my child. Just before Christmas we were telling our 10 year old that someone who would be attending was going by a new name and pronouns, but that they weren’t “out” to their own family. It was the idea that there was something a person could be that hurt their relationship with their parents that really worried him. It took a lot of reassurance that we would accept him no matter what.
Thats fucking tragic. Sounds like you have an extremely empathetic and thoughtful kid. Good job
That's so sad. I'm so sorry.
What? That literally just sounds like you just gave a 10 year old an existential crisis by telling him something he could never wrap his head around
@@aisjda2600 10 year olds don't have existential crisises. Stop projecting your bullshit onto kids, we're all sick of it.
@@aisjda2600 Nah, the kid gave himself one by thinking about what he learned. This is something that happens a lot when you have sentience and are capable of higher thought and can question your existence.
Female health teacher told us semen was salty and we all got loud with questions and laughs as to why she knew that.
Ok but I wouldn’t describe it as salty…. My friend said
@@ts4743
Sure~.
@@ts4743 I mean, not french-fries salty, but I'm assuming there is variance. (. )(. )
@@RecklessFables idk my friend said maybe pool salt salty
@@RecklessFables different texture, and it depends on the diet
so I heard
That's what I'm supposed to say, right
You can only use children as the pawns for a few years. That’s why they have too keep creating new threats. 💀
This is where other people's kids come into play. Barring some sort of mass sterilization there will always be children to use as fodder in the Culture Wars.
Yes, that's why we have this ever-ascalating list of scary "oppressions" we need to 'educate' children to fear- Racism and sexism were once real, impactful issues... But society improved to the point that "micro-aggressions" and stuff like "cultural appropriation" and "manspreading' were the scaryest threats we could muster up.
But NOW we've gone through the looking-glass, to the point where 100% objectively accurate identification of evidence-based sex is "scary" and "hateful" and "bigotted"... And now it's also scary and bad to NOT define the world entirely based on sexual stereotypes- "A woman" is no longer "any adult han females, regardless of WHAT she is doing, wearing, saying, etc..."
Instead, TODAY "a woman" is "a person of ANY sex, who performs the STEREOTYPES culturally-associated with womanhood- Wearing dresses, and make-up, and shopping, and giggling, and liking pink, frilly things, and prefering rom-coms to action movies..."
And to NOT identify"women" based solely on adherence to that stereotype, is now"scary" and "bad", and 'transphobic".
And in five more years, there'll be some NEW standard, even MORE contradictory to the genuine opposition to racism/sexism/homophobia that we pursued in the 20th century...
Maintaining "scary threats" is more important than simple, evidence-based truth, or sexual equality.
What, no? Children don't just disappear after a few years lol. We always have children so they always use them. They just change what the new threat to them is every year or so.
Pretty much. Who they going to be appeal to in 20 year's time? From what I've seen, it's expensive to have kids and people are copping out of that "luxury" now. What politicians going to do then?
@@gigisilk798 We will have too many elderly then so the politicians will try to appeal to them, it's working really well in countries with rapidly aging populations e.g. Poland.
Did up to grade 10 (halfway through IGCSE) in Zambia before being sent to the UK for the last three years of my schooling. My Sex-Ed in Zambia was largely: People will tell you that condoms will make you safe, but the only way to not die of AIDS is to never have sex (in fairness, this was pre-ARVs, and Zambia was quite badly affected by HIV). In grade 11/fifth form in the UK, we were segregated for the only sex-ed session we had, which was basically a slightly loopy history teacher saying: "You are a male, with shameful and degrading urges, you are a threat to all women around you and should remove yourself from any social situation involving a woman. If a woman is walking, you must cross the street to avoid her. If you ever buy a woman flowers, you are a sexual predator." And there were definitely ideas in there that teenage boys should have had, but I think there probably is a way of putting that across that doesn't make boys that being male is a fundamental flaw in their character.
In sixth form, in addition to the psychology teacher being a great person for just answering any questions anyone had without making them feel like trash, a much less loopy lady did do a morning explaining condoms and tube tying and vasectomy and coils, and the side-effects of contraceptive pills on women compared to the side effects of pregnancy, and it felt like a revelation that sex-ed could not be terrifying and shaming.
Yikes. That's so fucked up. Can't we teach young boys that sexual predators are bad without making those poor souls think that they were born as human garbage? Women are treated as garbage in several countries, which should be avoided, but this is just as bad. My heart goes out to you and every youngster that has ever been shamed for being born as a man or woman. We need more teachers like the one you described.
Thank you for this. It's a really scary time for gay people at the moment and I appreciate any time someone outside of the community advocates for sanity.
rubbish. you should sit down with your elders in the gay community. they are the people who stood proud during a scary time for the community, so that you can cry because everyone doesnt want to agree with you.
Nobody is stopping you from getting your butt fugged
I went to public school in Texas. We didn’t even really get abstinence only, my school’s attitude was essentially that’s your parent’s responsibility and to skip gonads in 9th grade biology
spell check is free...
@@crissyhutto8409 A real word spelled wrong isn't going to get picked up by spell check. You could have commented on the education system of Texas and the inability to differentiate words, but you chose poorly.
@@crissyhutto8409 If you're going to be picky, at least use proper punctuation yourself.
Lmao I got y’all beat
In my sophomore year health class, they barely taught us about condoms and contraceptives (maybe like a class worth). What they did instead was being an outside group in to teach us to be abstinent.
They lady who ran the thing made us ANALYZE Ed Sheeran’s song “shape of you” because the song promoted having sex before starting a relationship, we had to say how the song was wrong and how we should go on about our relationships.
She gave us heart shaped lollipops that said “real love waits” and “abstinence before marriage” on the stick.
I really hope someone sees this because that was the cringiest health class I’ve ever had to take.
lmao i am so sorry 😂 (i am genuinely sorry but having to analyse 'shape of you' is one of the dumbest sex ed things i'v ever heard and I can't stop laughing)
I'm not sure "cringe" is the right word. But then again I'm not the English language HAS the right word.
in her defence everything ed sheerasn do is pretty awful and should be analyzed as such
Kinda had a similar experience in my school, only i grew up around EXTREME poverty, so the first person to have a kid in our generation group was in 7th grade.
I read your story and died a little inside.
How do you know if someone is a pedophile? They're always claiming people are pedophiles.
They also know kids cant and wont fight back and thus use them to legitimize their consistently garbage opinions.
@@Illier1 I was sexually abused for 6 years as a kid. 3 times my abuser nearly killed me. When I told my RELIGIOUS parents about it, they said that I should just forgive & forget, or God will send me to hell.
You might want to think about that before opening your mouth to me. But seriously, you really think that those Republican politicians, Q-jerks & Faux News guys care about your kids? Grow up and grow some brain cells... or are you afraid of "God's wrath", too?
@@biggiejeffrey What part of my comment made you think I was defending them?
Learn to read
Every accusation a Conservative makes is a confession
@@Dan-ud8hz It's the liberals lie about their agenda! They're the fascists! They're the ones converting our children! They're the ones with hateful rhetoric! They tried to steal the election and lie about it on national television!
I have absolutely no idea how your average conservative doesn't collapse into a singularity under the weight of their own cognitive dissonance.
I'm so glad I grew up in a world dominated by "think of the children" rhetoric. Sure, I didn't have any effective education about sexuality, drug dependency, mental health or how to handle anxiety and depression, all of which would have been really helpful when I became an adult and found out I was too close to the poverty line to ever really make it out of that black hole. But at least when I had to hide under my desk during those active shooter drills, I didn't have to think of my gay friends as actual humans with souls.
......fuck I need a drink......
"Think of the Children!" as in "Think of the perfect mold you want children to fit in, not what they actually go through"
@@ayior I don't think I've seen someone sum the entire thing up so succinctly before. Well done.
They struck gold with this one. This is so much better pretext than "searching for Weapons of mass destruction". The people of America have never been more eager to hand over all their freedoms if it means catching one predator. That is.. as long as that predator isn't a priest. That profession oddly enough is free of suspicion.
6:07 Correction; bones of children are not brittle. They are actually more like rubber the younger the child is. They are perfectly fit for tight places where adults can't reach.
That's why we need to use children as chimney sweeps again.
@@TheModdedwarfare3 lol
@@TheModdedwarfare3 I think that Ohio just passed a bill legalizing that again.. 😢
I made that up and it isn’t true but sadly in current day America I shouldn’t even joke about it because the GOP may read this and seriously do it
@@TheModdedwarfare3 pretty sure Iowa just passed that law
So most of the time children are used in politics, it’s in the form of “keep the children ignorant by banning stuff we don’t want them to know”, there are times when children of certain ages shouldn’t have access to certain knowledge (which is why movies and games have age ratings) but most politicians just use this as “we don’t like this, thus we don’t want our kids to know about this so that they can have the same political view as us”
If they're old enough to ask, they're old enough to know (don't add details they didn't ask for tho)
@ifer lyf not true. Children especially toddlers ask tons of questions about everything. However just because they doesn't mean they need to know the answer.
False. Knowledge is NEVER a bad thing.
Arm your children with information, not fear. I'd have made a lot less mistakes with sex and drugs if I was more informed as a child. I still sought out knowledge on my own, but I couldn't account for everything.
@@Ace-pc2cm knowlege can be a bad thing at ages where children cannot process said knowlege. I am not talking about teens but kids younger than that.
@@nannerhannah3268 give me one example. Please. One example where knowing something is worse than not knowing it.
I maintain that most of the people yelling about “grooming” in schools would freak tf out if schools started teaching kids how to identify and protect themselves from abusive relationships.
As Homer once said: "I think children are the future. Unless we stop them right now."
Truly one of the thinkers of our time.
I think something briefly mentioned which would be interesting to be explored in a future video would be the impact of socio-economic class on children's assertion of themselves as autonomous actors and reception the difference in reception they receive from authority. I don't think I was alone when I was younger in feeling a disconnect between myself from a poor family and the almost always middle class or above faces of children's movements.
+1. This should also be explored through the lens of music. It's no coincidence that you almost never see emo/goth black kids/teens. Counter cultures are incredibly important developmentally.
+1
Deep truth
Like mentioned, its also the case in music
So many counter culture artists being brought to light because the family had connections
Then we are told "if you work hard enough you'll get there"
Faaaaaaackkkk
@@xavlamou4401 that's not exactly what I meant but yes you need to have connections or otherwise be lucky in order to be successful under capitalism.
I was more referring to the fans of music. White kids usually tend to gravitate towards rock and punk genres while black kids gravitate towards hip hop. Both have similar messages of rebellion, but white music always allows for far more expressive forms of rebellion. Like makeup and piercings and colored/long/spikey hair. Hell even ICP which is basically hip hop for white kids paint their face.
As the middle class kid, I always had to be careful with who I played with because if mamma found out I played with the wrong people, she would make me friendship breakup with them in front of her. I had to do twice, and her reasons was one family smoked, and the others family had a trashy yard (their brother was actively repairing his car in the front yard) and that I can’t associate with trashy people or else I’d be trash. So I gave up on having friends and telling her about them if they weren’t perfect
@@adelai3795 my parents never went as far as forcing me to break up with people in front of them but they were definitely very judgy and sometimes flat out racist. Then again the reason I never went through those situations might be because I learned very early on to live a secret life from my parents. From the time I was at least 12 they had no idea who I hung out with, where I did it, how I acted, talked, dressed, etc.
This is what happens when you're controlling and overprotective. It will ALWAYS backfire. Just talk to your kids man lol it's not that hard. If you can't do it, then talk to a therapist first.
In high school, I think it was Parrenting class but it could of been Contemperary Living since I had the same teacher. We were learning that the only way to prevent pregnancy was to not have sex. Matt or Pat since both sat behind me asked about condoms. The teacher got super quiet and said "We cannot talk about those, but they exist." Thank you Matt or Pat for bringing light to something I didn't know much about. As an adult some almost 20 years later I still remember this moment and can feel our teacher wanting to give us correct info but not being able to.
Who else took that Chastity Vow as a kid, despite having no idea what you were agreeing to? Having Youth Pastors teach Sex Ed was wild!
It sounds like you were caught in the original House of Grœming.
Fun pop culture fact: on the Batman tv show from the 60's, while running against The Penguin for mayor of Gotham, some people got mad at Batman for refusing to kiss some babies, arguing it was to protect the children from bacteria and etcetera; The Penguin did kiss the babies, though, which was a sign of his hypocrisy (I think).
I attended an adventist of the seventh day school. But despite that, around 6 or 7 grade we were shown a cartoon that was VERY explicit about it. Moaning and all. The class was dead silent. It ended with fireworks. It dispelled many doubts we had, specially the pissing part.
I dont remember any parents complaining about it. Maybe because most were relieved they didnt need to have "the talk" anymore.
What country are u from if u don’t mind me asking. Bc here in the USA Christian parents hate for children to learn anything that will promote autonomy and critical thinking
@@ts4743 Im from Chile. But the story is from the 90s. Its weird because we also got our good share of anti abortion propaganda. So its not like we were super progresive or anything.
I studied in a Catholic school here in Brazil, composed of nuns (as "owners" of the school, they are not teachers or anything pedagogical related, and I'm a man, it was not a "girls' school").
So the only time I remember something related to sex ed that was not in the biology class was one lecture, where all the school was present... some woman (she was not a nun) would talk about things... I don't remember what age I was, but I was old enough to think that was bizarre.
The woman showed us some "abortion" photos and videos, ugly stuff. she said that USE CONDOMS WAS ABORTION, just like ANY CONTRACEPTIVE METHOD, with the exception of the "table" (I don't know what people call it in English, but that method of "making sex in the days the woman are most infertile") and pull off. I was very young and that sound bizarre to me, because my parents and, well, everywhere else always said to use condoms, and that condoms were good. them she said that no one should have sex before marriage. I remember just laughing at this part. not that I would have sex for years after that, but I knew that the motive was not because she said something, but because I was just a small skinny ugly nerd, and people who were not small skinny ugly nerds would not avoid sex too. my friends and I just started to bet how many teenage pregnancies we would have in school...
And what I found even more bizarre was that a surprising number of kids believed that condom was abortion. well, was not a big number, but more than I expected (I expected something between 0 and 5 in the entire school because it was a time that the government was really trying to take down the number of teenage pregnancies, condom propaganda was everywhere).
"table" (I don't know what people call it in English, but that method of "making sex in the days the woman are most infertile")
Usually rhythm method, though there are some more technical names.
"pull off"
"Your hammer pulls you off?!"
Pull out. Pulling off is slang for male self pleasuring.
@@westrim oh, thank you! yeah, I just confused the "pull out"/"pull off". thank you for teaching me!
Condom propaganda is good propaganda. We need more of that
Oddly, all the grooming I underwent as a child was perpetrated by the faiths, institutions, and societal groups that many of the current fear-mongerers affiliate with and/or proclaim an allegiance to. Years of suicidal ideation resulted.
I believe that the best way to "save the children" is to recognize as adults that "our way" may not be everyone's way.
Catholic School Kid here: Same issue with sex education. I learned everything "real" from a peer on a bus. School taught me that heavy petting caused pregnancy which as a kid I didn't have any idea what heavy petting was. The sex education teacher was a lonely person of the clergy, a person who didn't get laid and had a bias. So I learned nothing productive.
So Michael's dedication to Wisecrack is an active form of vengeance towards Ronald Reagan. This is rollercoaster ride I never knew I'm happy to hear👌
His cause should be all of ours! It's truly amazing how much shit can be traced back to Reagan.
I'm a Malaysian who studied at a chinese independent secondary school.
For each grade, we had a (I forgot half an hour or an hour) class called "Counseling class"
It was kind of like class group counseling, it wasn't a class with exams and whatnot, of course.
We had to keep a journal for the class, with class activities that might require us to write down stuff.
Flipping through my Junior 1 (age 13, this was 2014) journal, at the start, there's "'Introducing yourself", "How I see myself", "Friends that you have made half a year in".
Also like, yeah, I was not mistaken.
So when I was 12, we were taught about effects of puberty minus anything about our sex organs, but in Junior 1 (13), I was taught about the development of sex organs somewhat thoroughly in like an academic way. Stuff like penetration, ejaculation, fertilization.
I would think that it was enough to start off on, so no sex positions, ways to pleasure or whatnot. (Is that even proper to be taught in school? Like, huh, I never really considered that, I guess teaching about BJs in school is quite weird.)
But also what happens/is done is explained, but not how or why something happens (basically stuff reserved for science-stream students in biology class)
An example would be the counselor explaining that stimulation can cause ejaculation, but not that stimulation causes nerves to send to the brain though nerves x and y.
(I myself am simplifying these classes quite a bit here.)
Now whether there was anything wrong with those class segments, I sadly only vaguely remember some of them. Though I do remember the counseling classes being quite chill about homosexuality, though I have no memory of the topic of being transgender being brought up. I guess I wouldn't be surprised if there was like a short mention of it.
Also like, huh, I guess we were done with sex ed by age 15 in terms of counseling class. I don't see anything about it written down after that.
Also, we weren't split into male/female classes for these topics. The idea would be everyone should know how it works, no matter if it's sex ed about your own sex or those of the opposite sex.
(Writing this as I side-eye every single person who has said that high school maths shouldn't be taught and that it's useless even as these people can't even do order of operation right.)
My Sex Ed teacher was utterly horrendous. She had a friend that had been the victim of sexual assault and took it upon herself to scare everyone into thinking sex would get you killed. We even watched MULTIPLE movies that focused on AIDs/HIV transmission that were entirely unapproved by the school and that entirely misrepresented the disease. She even repeatedly told us a story about someone being sodomized with a baseball bat. I'm surprised I can stand next to a female and not run in horror.
holy shit that's a whole traumatic experience I'm so sorry to hear that☠
The fact that you refer to women as females is a red flag bro just fyi
As a trans woman on gab, I know all too well that we are heavily used as a scapegoat and that the discourse surrounding this is leading to real-world harm of vulnerable people.
Yeah. It makes me sad normal people like us are demonized and it makes it hard for us to do things without being treated terribly. Been faced with a lot of hate online for just openly being Trans and have been called things like a groomer just for...existing and being open about my existence
@@lssjgaming1599 So true. Obsessing over trans identity has been the number one priority of the right for the past 18 months, but their insistence on shutting me up inspires me to be more vocal. I am a former trans kid, and a current trans adult who wants children to be happy and healthy.
I'm 42. I believed that until you just now told me that's not how sex works. ANOTHER thing I have to google because of this video alone.
Enter The Simpson's "Oh, won't someone think of the children?!" meme.
I clicked on the video just to say this. Now I have to go
It's not a meme anymore
was expecting to see it in the video
@@falconeshield Never was
I'm a zoomer I don't understand the reference what is happening in the episode?
I remember in eighth health the entire class being handed a book on sex ed, which we were to read silently by ourselves. I didn't actually read it. I was already bullied and ostracized by my peers, and I knew all it would take was one little douche bag looking over my shoulder and screaming, "EW SHE'S LOOKING AT BOOBS!" to make my life even more hellish than it already was.
My 8th Grade Georgia state sex ed involved one great example. Everyone had a cup of water, then a bunch of boys spit some of their water into a girl's cup. Then the boys were asked if they would want to drink that water. The implicit lesson being girls who have sex with a bunch of boys are icky and not desirable.
We also signed papers with fellow classmates as witnesses to stay obstinate until marriage.
I know a lot of married and sexually active people, that are still pretty obstinate :-)
This guy is Wisecrack's best host so far, by far. Keep the videos coming.
Thanks so much. You are too kind.
Children aren’t just miniature adults and shouldn’t be treated as such. Nor should they be exploited by adults to push an agenda.
This agenda sure is ever-growing
@@falconeshield is that how you sleep in the middle of day while your child is getting diddled in school by their 60 year old science teacher?
Why are you so attached to the paranoid narrative that puts children on a pedestal even though it's largely been proven to be a disservice to them?
Yeah, conservatives are pretty vile in using children to attack minority groups
100%. Kids 9 and 10yo, in perfect physical health, being chemically sterilized (yes, literally; Google "Lupron side effects", if you swallowed the provable lie of "safe, reversable puberty-blockers". They're literally the exact drug used to chemically-castrate sex offenders), based on ZERO empirical evidence, but SOLELY justified by "just a social construct", is far worse child abuse, often objectively more physiologically damaging, than Islamic female genital mutilation.
Throwing healthy children under the bus of lifelong physical harm- Loss of adult fertitity, loss of adult sexual function, commiting an initially- healthy child to a 100% medically-unneccessary lifelong dependance on life-shortening wrong-sex hormones, that their body can't properly process, all just to POLITICALLY leverage these children for evidence-free "gender" ideology, is some of the worst violation of basic human rights that's happened in the West, for decades. (As well as utter violation of "first do no harm", in some of the worst ways possiible)
The idea that a child not conforming to the stereotypes of their own sex, and/or preferring opposite-sex stereotypes, is (somehow?) a terrible """problem""", that requires """treatment""" with documented-harmful drugs like puberty-blockers, trying to deliberately chemically-stunt the normal, natural growth of a healthy kid, is the most fvcked-up, socially-regressive imaginable.
The ideology claims to "OPPOSE gender stereotypes". But IRL, it observably, demonstrably PROMOTES and ENFORCES gender stereotypes, via harmful, unneccessary drugs (and unnecessary surgery). It actively fights to destroy evidence-based definitions for terms like "man"/"woman"/"boy"/"girl", and wants these objective, evidence-based definitions ENTIRELY replaced by conformity to sexual stereotypes- "If you imitate the stereotypes of [x], then you (somehow?) BECOME [x]!!!" It's a bizarre, harmful, pseudo-religious, 100% faith-based claim with no basis in facts, evidence or empirical science, at all.
People have no idea what even endorsing, in this clownshow- Look at the physical harm (both chemical AND surgical mutilation. All 100% medically unneccessary) suffered by Chloe Cole or Jazz Jennings, years before they could give MEANINGFULL CONSENT to the (again 100% medically-unnecessary; Never anything physiologically wrong with EITHER kid.. not except the stuff CAUSED by the needless drugs/surgery ..) irreversable harm done to their own body.
No child should have their body/rights violated like that, for ANY reason... And ESPECIALLY not in service of a political agenda, that scumbag adult are pursuing (which is justified by zero evidence, besides "just a social construct").
I live in Florida and went to school from kindergarten to college level. My high school did “sex ed” was all the std/sti that we could get, don’t have sex until marriage or you could die, and they refused to answer any questions about actual sex; condoms/the pill are for married couples that don’t want children. In 8th grade we discussed the scientific aspect of sex, as in sperm fertilized egg….
My moral and religious education teacher was a priest, so when sex Ed time came along, we got a new teacher temporarily.
I don't think kids are inherently innocent. I point to the video of the kids dousing s puppy with gasoline and setting it on fire. I think they were 10, above the age that children develop empathy.
Innocence is just a lack of knowing stuff
Children are no better or worse than adults morally, tho adults can be more stuck in their ways, and children have underdeveloped brains that make empathy and self restraint harder
Children don't magically develop empathy at a given age. Just like you don't develop a sense of right and wrong and the ability to make good decision when you turn 18 or 21. These milestones are largely arbitrary and meant o be averages.
In reality, a child from a good home can learn empathy at the age of 2, whereas a child from a bad home can go well into adulthood without having empathy.
@@Ace-pc2cm Milestones are always going to be arbitrary but I think there really is a biological element. We can’t “teach” a moral impulse, we can only teach the culturally appropriate expression of those impulses.
@@Detson404 sure you can. The entire purpose of behavioral therapy is to modify our responses to stimuli.
@@Ace-pc2cm I guess that childhood abuse can produce people without empathy so yeah, there’s probably a big nurture component.
Speaking as someone who has run for office, sometimes politicians fawn over babies simply because they are ADORABLE! 🤩
Won't someone just think of the children.
Legit: if you try to get adults to do a basic thing to save kids (who they don't know) lives, they won't. Child poverty, education, immigration, housing, etc.
Same kinds of people that get angry at M&Ms for not being sexy anymore but not angry at their parent corporation, Mars, for using child slavery to produce their chocolate.
@Areno Im angry at both. However I've noticed a lot of people who put effort into saying why others discussing how M&M's look is a waste of time are noticibly silent on the child labour, poor working conditions & other larger issues they claim to think are worth peoples time.
@@arenomusic The average voter has a 30 second attention span and can't understand the downstream effects of policy. They pick an Infotainment scheme that matches their preconceived notions/personality types/pathologies and then pretends they're being given the full picture. Being disappointed in them is a waste of your time, they're literally doing the best they can with the society and tools available to them.
My Sex Ed class was pretty basic. I don't recall it being segregated either.
It was mostly "penis goes in vagina, sperm fertilizes egg, nine months later you have a baby. If you MUST have sex, then please use a condom." with maybe some other stuff about STDs mixed in.
It wasn't treated as some hush-hush thing but it was very much just the mechanical aspects of it.
we had a question box that we could put questions we were too afraid to ask in the middle of class and it would be answered anonymously to the rest of the class. My friend John put in "if I have a thirst for Mountain Dew will Mellow Yellow quench it?". They took away the question box from us after that.
Damn John and his ruining of good ideas.
What you miss is that children (actual children, not teenagers about to graduate high school)... aren't autonomous individuals. They are becoming that. Including them in the political process sounds nice, but in effect what you'd get is parents using their children as their mouthpiece.
Fully agree on the rest though, I've thought about the fetishizing of innocence in children myself and find it fascinating, great video as always :)
The groomer discourse has fucking exploded recently, thank you for covering this.
Groomers are a problem I’m glad people are starting to realize.
That is because child and drag shows shouldn't go together like children and strip clubs. Check out Gays against groomers and see what has happened to them.
@@nannerhannah3268 I personally wouldn't take my child to a drag show, but comparing it to them being molested just makes me feel like you hate the performers rather than care for the children.
@@nannerhannah3268 Most drag shows have nothing sexual. It's not that different than seeing a play where the actors dress up or getting a clown for a birthday party. Are you also against taking kids to see the Lion King where people dress as animals?
And children going to drag shows happens far less often than children beauty pagents and church sexual abuse.
@KingOfMadCows not even close to true. Haven't you seen the videos?? Dudes with gaint fake tits, simulated sex scenes, thongs, skirts that don't go past the butt. It is extremely sexual, drag has always been sexual. It isn't a place for children, the dances they do are sexual and the same dances that strippers do. The drag shows today are also getting more sexual, more extreme. You have drag kids, kids going up on stage dancing for grown adults as they hand the kids dollar bills. That is grooming. That is grooming and they are children.
Kids are so easily treated as tools for all sorts of things. I think this is going to become more of a talking point in the next decades.
The most common example of this is kids being treated as extensions of their parents, which totally happened to me. It can range from no big deal to a huge deal! Because kids are individuals, not blank slates for you to put whatever you want on them!
WAY too many parents treat their children as property unfortunately
Next: How Adults become Political Children
A really powerful image is during the Capitol Crawl when a disabled 8-year old was crawling up the steps of the Capitol building in DC to help pass the American with Disabilities Act.
I thought using children for politics was bad?
@@adoe2305 Someone didn’t watch the video~
@@kriminal7009 it's hard to focus on propaganda.
@@adoe2305 isn’t the point of propaganda to be the focus of attention so people take in what you’re saying?
I do not recall having sex ed in School here in Brazil. However I do remember how the church was paranoid by telling you that that was a sin, you should pray until God respond if that girl you're up was "The One". Needless to say the ones that ignored it were far more happier, and I myself ended up in a psychologist after my first girlfriend dumped me. Also there are still 30 something years old waiting for "The One". I now see this was a diservice for those people, including me and do not intend to pass it foward to my son.
The problem isn't exactly believing in lies like "the one". The problem is attaching sex to love, which is extremely unhealthy. Sex is a biological process that is entirely unrelated to love. Linking the two makes it difficult to fulfill biological needs without the emotional component.
As a parent, I believe that children are born pure and innocent, loving and wanting to be loved. Then they are taught to fear and hate whatever "other" we teach them to fear and hate .
They become a projection of their parent's values and society's values. They are treated a certain way and feel justified in treating other people similarly
Yeah this idea that children being innocence is some sort of … political agenda… is really stupid. Children are innocent by definition. Conflating small children with teenagers the way this video did is incredibly disingenuous and manipulative
It's crazy how the same group says think of the children that is also against free school lunches for children it's really telling
Those kids should be working for money to buy those school lunches
@@VenomSnake420 how old are these hypothetical kids?
This channel is getting more and more based with each video
It still boils down to a class distinction between those kids deemed "economically useless" and the "emotionally priceless" even now. It's still a privilege to have access to knowledge, to be able to decide one's own gender identity and be supported for it, and to have the means and financial stability to pursue higher education and better employment. Republicans are concerned with the preservation of "childhood" insofar as it shields THEIR children from the harsh realities of society writ large, and gives them incalculable advantages and a leg up on everyone. It's not designed to protect EVERY child from imagined predation and mature discussions on race and sex, just the whitest, richest, and well-connected ones.
My Sex ed class in Ireland was our grade 6 in 2010. It was a cartoon about the core basics of reproduction, erections, and menstrual cycles. I think we were divided by gender but I cant really remember. At the end of the video, I asked ' How does a condom work?' the nurse told Me we would find that out in another 3 years. I was 12
I love how it's always "won't someone please think of the children!" But I've VERY rarely seen them ACTUALLY ask the children in question. Other than teen oriented outlets like Teen Vogue, the only person I've seen ask what teens think was Kamau Bell on United Shades of America. I hope I'm super wrong and just don't watch enough TV.
Totally down to protect children. That being said, that requires immediately abolishing the Catholic & Baptist Church (they have a clear track record of child abuse), outlawing things like child beauty pageants, and requiring places like Hooters be exclusively 18+
If you say you "care about the children" and don't 100% support these common sense suggestions.... well, your opinions are nonsense
Based
Plus raise the age of consent to 18, abolish baby/child circumcision (unless medically required), and do something/anything about school/mass shootings.
@@Blue2x2x I always forget about circumcision. That's another one that's an open and shut case.
"No Karen, you are not allowed to physically mutilate a baby"
Very important video. Protecting childhood innocence at all cost leads to cringe outcomes. I'm not saying we should expose them to porn or violence, but sheltering them from all hardships and pretending that the world is all flowers and ponies will either give them a pretty hard time adapting to real life or build great mistrust and resentment towards us. Children get way more than we think. I'm a big advocate for treating kids seriously from my own experiences, as I am still really mad about things that happened -teen years ago (it's my 23rd birthday tomorrow 🥳), such as being unsuccesfully gaslighted by a psychologist. Children are people. Fragile, inexperienced and not fully developed people who should be treated delicately and with love and care, but people nevertheless
Eyy first! THINK OF THE CHILDREN!
There’s a real tension between “children are people, too” and “children are ignorant and easily mislead”. They definitely aren’t capable of making informed decisions about what is best for their own futures, so should they be allowed political agency? It’s not an easy decision.
This is deeply rooted in ableism as well. Those with intellectual disabilities are often denied autonomy. We can actually think of children as being disabled under the social model of disability
Maturity and the ability to make informed decisions stems from being allowed access to knowledge and experience by those in power. It's not that children are stupid. At least not any more stupid than their elders. The problem is that American culture goes out of its way to shield children from the information and very real dangers the world contains. Causing ignorance. Ignorance so profound that a vast number of voters and even politicians lack a functional knowledge of how the world really works as adults.
To be fair, many adults I know have incredibly poor judgment and probably don’t deserve to have a say themselves compared to children with alarmingly high levels of insight. And another point: one of the political paradigms of us choosing representatives and senators is that they will make decisions for our best interest when we really frankly don’t understand or know about the topic at hand. That they will vote against our wishes because they know better than us. At least as far as senators go, where they act in the role of a “trustee” versus a representative as a “delegate.” So it logically follows that, if we employ the trustee model and we have a decision maker acting for us when we don’t know better, why can’t children participate to pick these trustees like the adults do?
@@Soletestament I want to clarify that I was not calling children stupid, but rather asserting that they lack the knowledge and experience to know both what is wise and what is true.
@@cjboyo I strongly disagree with conflating children with the mentally disabled. Children can be brilliant, they simply haven’t had time to develop their talents. Dealing with disability involves finding alternatives and methods of mitigation-ways to circumvent the difficulties imposed. Dealing with ignorance is mostly about education and experience, it can be overcome and eliminated with time and effort. Each form of treatment is mutually exclusive, and choosing the wrong one is actively detrimental to the subject.
My mother was a registered nurse and there was no way in hell she was going to have a child completely ignorant of their body. When you start small by just teaching a kid basic anatomy, they will be mature enough to have conversations about sex and STI as a teen with waaay less awkwardness. My mum never made me feel shamed for discussing all the bodily torture that is puberty.
My school's health class in 5th grade skipped sex talk beyond decribing the mechanical life cycle of it all. They taught anatomy and kinda implied you'll definetely get STIs from sex the first time. The teacher also deliberately left out where the swimmers go when they leave "home." It's just out of man and magically into an egg and boom a baby.... Now you know why my mum home schooled me for this.
Your mom sounds awesome
I remember reproduction being discussed in class in the 5th grade and my teacher was talking about women having eggs and guys fertilizing them. I was totally clueless and raised my hand to ask how the sperm got to the eggs. My teacher told me if I was serious I could ask him later. At recess a kid gave me an answer, but I thought he was lying because there was no way my mom would do something like that, certainly not with my Dad, and not four times as I had three brothers. Years later I somewhat reluctantly came around to the idea that something like that may have actually happened. Thank God today, due to the progress of science and technology, kids can now now believe that they were made in a lab.
I was made via asexual budding like God intended.
No need for that kind of sex Ed in my country. We live in and amongst nature.
Ay there’s nothing wrong with being a test tube baby 😤
@@zachharkins6930 Yeah. I remember a scifi story in a book named Dark Closet on Amazon where test tube babies were the norm and ppl who had births naturally were seen as weird, or even abusive, since there was more risk to the baby.
As a former Mormon, I was not prepared for the Patricia Holland name drop lol
5th grade was the only time I saw boys and girls separated for sex education. After that, Health Class had "Family Life Education," which was a neat way to sneak the instruction past the squeamish parents.
Id rather be able to teach my kids instead of a public school that usually sucks at teaching kids in general.
@@MrGert150 I'm sure you're a great parent, but lots of parents suck at teaching kids too :/ it's not like becoming a parent somehow turns you into a good educator, parents can often pass along their own lack of understanding to their children. To use a pop example, that ricky and morty episode where the parent didn't know pluto was no longer considered a planet. This happens with sex too, to incredibly damaging results, specially with female children.
We need better educators, for sure, but I wouldn't trust every parent to be a good teacher.
@@MrGert150 I would say it definitely depends on the school. If I know that my child is going to get a proper education about how sex works from a professional and scientific perspective I would much rather a trained educator do it. I am not an expert by any stretch of the imagination and would be okay with someone trained in these things to teach it.
If they're going to teach abstinence until marriage and that having multiple partners is bad or against God? I will pick up the slack... and probably complain about it at the next school board meeting.
I remember listening to a podcast about the foundation of the New York Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals in the late 19th century. *After* that organization started operating, they started the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children. Parents protested it, seeing it as an intrusion into their parental rights.
The US is also one of the few UN members who didn't ratify the Convention on the Rights of Children, thanks in large part to the effort of fundamentalist homeschooling groups, for the same reason.
There is a large block of people in the US who view their rights of control over their children as more important than their well-being or safety.
the 'facts dont care about your feelings' crowd have basically flipped that mantra in the last few years
I gonna say one thing to theses people if i meet them in personal. "well, Facts don't care about your stupidilty, too." how about that, huh?
I attended a private school in Argentina. The worst memory I have about sex ed was one time that we watched a sex documentary about abortion, which depicted with great detail things like a bloody dead fetus. It was one of the most disturbing thigs I saw on film on my entire life. I think I was 14 at that time. Luckily things have changed and schools don't do those things anymore. Right now these practices are heavily criticized, but at that time it was just normal.
So you're angry because the documentary showed you the truth about a horrific thing that happens in real life ?
I wasn't allowed to take sex ed in school. My parents has my sisters and I pulled, and we had to spend the afternoon alone doing random busy work
In Sex Ed, we were taught abstinence only. We were never taught about gender or sexuality. It was also heteronormative and cisnormative. I'm transfeminine and bi. So most of it was not useful to me. Lacking information on sex education required me to learn essentially everything on my own. And abstinence only education has been shown to have higher underage pregnancy rates, and spread of STIs since they aren't taught about contraceptives, and that they are safe when used responsibly. I remember being taught that I needed to abstain till marriage and shown pictures of boils and genital warts to try to scare me into not having sex. And to the surprise of no one with knowledge on the data of abstinence sex ed vs contraceptive sex ed. We had a lot of pregnant teens at our high school. We weren't taught about how to revoke consent and maintain boundaries. Or how to watch out for red flags for someone who might be a domestic abuser, or who is more likely to commit sexual assault based on their behavior. How to find advocacy groups to help you get justice when you have dealt with SA. All things that would have been vastly more helpful than trying (and failing) at scaring us all into abstinence till marriage. Especially since I dealt with sexual assault at 16 years old. When I was still in high school and could have actually used that VERY helpful information. I'm 24 now.
In Canada (Quebec) in high school (2001 - 2006) we add a couple of sex ed class. it mostly concentrated on contraceptive mean (their advantage and disadvantage) STDs, how to prevent them and what treatment existed (emphasis on AIDs being deadly and incurable), normalization of the variety in sex organ shape and size and even how to make your first time go as painlessly as possible. Consent was extremely lightly touched (basically no means no and nothing more).
All of it was mostly trough trough extremely cringy video and text but apparently it was a lot more then most commenter here had. It was utterly heteronormative, beside one "Gays! they exist, they are fine, actually 3 out of the 30 of you are probably going to discover they are by age 20." moment , every talk, every example and advice where entirely targeted at heterosexual couple.
My ex had a theory that the longer a child is allowed to be just a child, the longer the person lives. I'm all about striking a balance. Let children be children in a real world.
Right-wingers be unhinged in the comment section. Keep up the great work Wisecrack.
Don't bad you can't actually refute any of them..
Good propaganda
@@adoe2305 rightoids are self-refuting
@@IAmNumber4000 What a stupid and pointless reply. I'm sorry you don't have anything better to do with your life.
@@adoe2305 No u.
I remember when flavored cigarettes were banned. I was in university at the time. Some politician made a statement about ‘protecting children and YOUNG WOMEN.’ That comment pissed me off so much; despite never being a smoker, I did not want nor need some old man protecting me from my own agency and choices.
We had sex ed (downstate NY) in the beginning part of 7th grade - when we were 12, and I believe others may get it sometime during 6th grade, perhaps second half of the school years and that is at 11 years old.
It's like people turn 30 and entirely forget what they were going through biologically at ages starting at 10yo. Puberty and the teen years that follow are a thing, and those are not kids, and they are not adults. Why it's so hard for people to realize that is beyond me.
People apparently cannot handle more than two boxes for which to shover everyone in - its gay vs straight, man vs woman, adult vs child, PS vs Xbox, left vs right; and how dare you think of things outside of that.
"wait did you just say that teenagers are not children - you monster!" is a likely, real reaction to my post, btw. Of course, people on "think of" them when it's convenient and will work. Never mind the damage a lot of that sort of thing does the mind of a gay or trans kid and teenager.
"PS vs Xbox"
I'm Nintendo myself.
Wisecrack made a lot of videos about Foucault, while they didn't mention him signing the petition to get rid of age of consent laws.
Commenting it now: if Edelman isn't discussed here, I'm gonna riot.
We didn't go into Edelman here (due to time) but we talked about his work a bunch in a previous video, and will likely get into it again in the future.
@@WisecrackEDU Awesome!
An insight from science and philosophy is: school, from the ancient greek "skholé", which means "idleness". It's not exactly about protecting their innocence but to protect them from external interests and provide free time and free space where they would be able to ellaborate and develop freely to achieve their best selves sociologically speaking (Masschelein, Maarten, 2017), their "areté" (Jaeger, 1936). Allowing them to explore their individualities, their particularities plainly, suspended from an opressive past, or an opressive context. Even Rousseau said in the mentioned book that "education is not about gaining time, but about loosing it". It is about having a dialogical relationship with them, without imposing the limitations of the adult world (Freire, 1962) for they represent a infinity of possibilities (Arendt, 1961) while we as adults are already far more limited than they are.
Won't somebody please think of the children?
THANK YOU FOR TALKING ABOUT THIS WISECRACK! The fact of the matter is, banning gender affirming care for children will not fix child poverty, prevent child abuse, or strengthen families.
Didn’t floridas law only apply to children 3rd grade and below, or something like that?
Many bigoted right-wing laws are designed to pave the way for future bigoted laws
We didn't have sex ed, our school made us sign abstinence pledges. Shockingly, a lot of people got knocked up on prom.
Moral deontologists: “it doesn’t matter if anybody is actually helped so long as I get to feel righteous!”
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we had stuff in a few stages.
5th Grade we learned some basics and were separated via our assigned at birth genders and watch the corresponding videos.
6th Grade we got a refresher of the video from last year and then we saw the video for the opposite gender that we didn't see last time.
Then around high school, it gets a little foggy. We got graphs and charts about the various parts of the different reproductive systems, learned about divorce, domestic violence, birth, abstinence, abortion and I think that's the rough round about that I remember. I think they said pretty much use a condom, but nothing about how to put one on or other details. I feel like I learned a lot more about the deeper stuff after graduating. Due to videos that were a lot funnier, elaborate or talked about by experts I think and said stuff that nobody really talked about that I think I might've wondered in the back of my head but never really said out loud or didn't know how to say out loud and stuff. Or just didn't think I could say becasue it felt rude to say or ask because it felt naughty/rude.
That was a big jump in time from Ancient Greece's conceptualization of children as innocent to the middle ages (a period known for it's disregard of virtues present in the previously mentioned historical era). There's a good reason they're also known as the dark ages.
A turtle doesn't approve of kids becoming political tools
Indonesian doesn't have sex-ed and we're in the middle of dilemma. In recent years, we realized that sexual harassment happened in every place including Islamic boarding school (the one place no one ever knew that would happen) but the subject is so taboo that people ignoring or even denying any open education and regulations regarding sexual orientation and activities. Scapegoating the victim (who is usually women) into the one that was doing the mistake cuz of their relationship, how they dressed, etc.
I'm loving that Michael seems to go off script and give his opinions sometimes.
This whole channel is one giant uninformed opinion
@@adoe2305 Yup. Because a person with a PhD in philosophy who wrote a book is uninformed. Ffs. Go away troll.
@@oefspcedwards next you're going to tell me you have PhD in underwater basket weaving. I'm sorry you've wasted your life.
Please tell me the title of this book! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@adoe2305 I don't have one. Michael does you uninformed idiot.
Oh god I hated my sex ed growing up, In 5th-6th grade we learned about puberty. Mostly about things like BO and hair growing, and a brief mention of erections, but any actual discussion about sex was non existent. Then in 9th grade health we had some sex ed talks, but it still never talked about the actual process of sex or even masturbation. We learned about the difficulties of being a teenage parent, had flash cards of all sexual diseases with pictures, and the benefits of abstinence. I did not know what masturbation, sex, or frankly many of the components involved until I was 18. My parents told me they just assumed I'd learn it from some other guys, and I was like, but we were raised being told that if we ever talked about it we'd spend eternity in hell being tortured by fire. They put my hand on an active burner to give me an idea of what being on fire will feel like. Why in any conceivable universe would 12 year old me start asking questions after that?! Somehow it's my fault I didn't learn more about sex because I didn't rebel against the dogmatic religious community I was raised in enough.
what exactly is wrong with allowing parents to raise their children that best fit there household and culture. The culture of colonization does not discriminate it seems, regardless of political leanings.
Sex ed for us was integrated into the required 9th grade health class. It was comprehensive, co-ed, matter of fact, and judgement free. For me the long term benefits were that I had a good understanding of my body, male bodies, and how conception and contraception works. I knew my options. I joined the Army, and when I had a boyfriend, I walked to sick call asking for oral contraception. I was determined not to get pregnant, and the sex ed class taught me that I had the power and right to make those choices. As for the Army, nobody batted an eye. It's cheaper give a young woman soldier the means to prevent pregnancy than it is to have her pregnant. But I didn't care how the Army benefited, I was just taking care of myself.
Sadly I served with a lot of young women who did not understand their own bodies, including not understanding why they have periods, didn't know the word "uterus," Women who thought that pregnancy was inevitable and there was nothing they could do to prevent it.
Before I graduated from high school, the school shrunk the sex ed course, made it sex segregated, and pushed abstinence only.
Knowledge is power.
I'd love a second house of congress just for young people, where kids can vote for other kids to represent them and make laws that effect kids, or get rid of laws that effect kids. Sure, there should also be a check in there so things don't go out of control, but there is a check on congress as well.
very sick idea.
Pizza day every day!
@@WisecrackEDU Did you seriously just miss that sarcasm?? God damn Wisecrack is dumb.
I don't think there is one answer from a moral perspective. Kids are their own people, and should be able to pursue the things they want to do. However, while not as bad as people claim it is, there are others in the world that want to exploit them. So there is a balance between protection and freedom that does need to be talked about.
the don’t say gay bill is only about kids younger than 7 or in 3rd grade. Why does no one talk about that?
And it doesn't even have the word gay in it
Kids younger than 7 are exposed to heterosexual people *all the time*
I thought sperm was the size of tadpoles and it terrified me
Michael, i see your funky style growing every episode. you're more fun and chill, cool, epic...🚬
not a sex ed story, but i'm from latin america and my school alone has had like 3-4 cases of teachers sleeping with students in the recent years 🤔 both male-female and female-male. i asked around my buddies that went to other schools and they told me a similar number. maybe we're apes here don't know. maybe we go full on goblin mode dunno. was this normal in your school?? i'm curious to hear from anyone in the comments.
i remembered about this bc there was a case on my class, and the philosophy(lmao) teacher was involved. he was this wannabe dead poets society dude that used to tell us that we shouldn't be afraid to live our sexuality and so on. he was on that well known "philosophical" discourse that is just really a 40 year old man talking about sex to 17 year old girls and covering it up with pseudo intelectual points about freedom and how society repress us. so it was sorta sex ed, he used to bring up sex and the way we should live it a bunch (obviously, since he was on that pedofilio swagger).
anyways i'm curious to see if this is normal stuff everywhere, so please answer 🥺
ps: i'll be on the quirky and jolly live podcast on thursday, i'm sure we will goof around the same amount as we will learn :^)
My dad was a colonel and a surgeon, who was quite forthright about the science of sex although I was probably a little young. As pediatric surgeon his main concern about children being abused was by family and as a glib man the clergy.
It all boils down to the fact that children are sweet, innocent, precious little things that have to be protected AT ALL COSTS against anything that doesn't line up with their parents' worldview...
>_>
I graduated from high school in Florida 10 years ago. Even then, they didn't talk about sexual orientation. I literally didn't know what being gay was until I stumbled across it on the internet when I was 16 or so.
As a fellow Florida HS graduate, solidarity. What a wild ride. Though I graduated *slightly* more than 10 years ago . . .
@@WisecrackEDU Then we're both proof that the Florida public school system has long fucked people up. It's okay. We can recover.
Let kids be kids and enjoy their childhood and let adults be involved in politics.
except for LGBTQ mafia, they can use kids however they please, right?
I know right! How could the climate authoritarians use Greta Thunberg, a mentally challenged child, to push their totalitarian agenda.
If there's anything like Bush Jr and Trump administration, real life doesn't let you, so why not be prepared?
@@falconeshield It's okay. We have a Democrat president. You can relax. I mean yeah, we have record high inflation, on the brink of ww3, and are constantly fighting their tyrannical regulations, but yeah, atleast we have a Democrat president
Soo.... Raising that age of consent? When should we expect that?
Kids reflect their parents more than anything. Morals, values, etc. They're a cute doll that you can control, shape, and mold -- until you can't!