@@s4ss.m8the problem is in order to do that you're going to have to take space from the LARSM . So in all reality the only way you're going to be able to do that and with a coordinated air and ship strike which is not possible given the limitations of DCs. Or trying to figure out a way to involve the Air Force in this strike and then you're getting Way Beyond the scope of what the actual scenario is
@@Wyomingchief attack and ballistic missile subs can also fire tomahawks, don't know of their capabilities in dcs but irl they do they have the ability to do a coordinated air and naval strike. naval f18s, f35s, b1b lancers as well as ships and subs can do a massive tomahawk and LRASM strike which will be very effective, it'll just be super costly. you can launch tomahawks in front then follow it up with LRAMS or mix them in one big salvo and let them deconflict, the tomahawk can loiter around the airspace until it finds a target and the LRASM got its own radar that it can use to detect hostile targets based on priority threat. the ships and planes have enough LRASMS and tomahawks to do such a strike, its the SAMs they'll be taking space away from the strike group will have less defensive missiles to work with but its still over 200
I know it's not quite in yet but F-35 squadrons do a large amount of exercises involving cruise missile detection and intercept because the DAS can lock them; hypersonic speeds means hypersonic temps and the F-35 has been on video detecting ballistic launches from ridiculously far, partially because of the light emitted in boost phase. Should be capable of datalinking the info to Aegis for either the radar to look at or to launch on if the distance information is there. Having a couple of them in the air just loitering up high would pose a serious threat to incoming hypersonics and would require J-35s to take them down first, might make for an interesting video.
@@agnesakioyamen2576 wow, man. There isn't anything even slightly derogatory or negative in this post. I'll assume that you have information I don't which supports your statement.
If the US has a 4 to 1(at worst) carrier group advantage to any enemy(or Two), why would they ever voluntarily try and go 1 on 1 with another carrier group, and lose that advantage?
American cannot recall carriers and warships from other theatres especially if those theatres are active. American can probably bring four fleet carriers to bare immediately in a pacific war but after the first few months they will likely only have two or three carriers tops at any given point in the pacific and any battle damage taken by the carriers will take years at least to repair and refit. They won’t be able to replace carriers that take battle damage with ships from other theatres because it would leave the US vulnerable in other parts of the world. If the 5th fleet left the Med for the pacific it would leave that entire region vulnerable. If those ships also take battle damage then two fleet capabilities are completely reduced and America may as well have lost the war at that point. America cannot rely on its numbers advantage because they insist on being over extended worldwide in a world police role. They can only rely on their technological edge and logistical advantage both of which are falling behind China specifically leaving America extremely vulnerable in the next pacific war. I think it’s safe to say America will it win against China at least not on their terms.
YJ18 is much slower than YJ21. For effective saturation attach, YJ21 should be fired after YJ18 so that both reach the targets at the same time. This will more likely overload the opponent defense system.
A Mach-10 missile (YJ-21) only has a 30% chance of hitting a Mach 0.04 target (ship), but a Mach-3 missile (SM-6) has an over 30% chance of hitting a Mach-10 target (YJ-21)
Dont feel bad Cap...i got a busted back crooked vertebraes to herniated discs and a bloody tumour right Smack at the T 12 level😢😢😢..keep your heads up mates!... heading to doctor soon...nice mission and take care all!
I would love it if a grim reaper (not necessarily cap) produced some of these engagements in Command Modern operations using the tac view. I'm even tempted to do it if I had time.
With the announcement of a 2nd carrier group heading for the Mediterranean, could you run a simulation where Iran & Russia launch a surprise attack on two carrier groups?
hypothetically what can a carrier do against torpedoes launched from the coast if they are less than 20nm away from the shore? They likely wont see them coming until the torpedoes turn on active sonar.
@@hughmungus2760with the amount of eyes watching the area there's no way a sub would get close, 2 carriers, 2 LHDs, an MEU and probably 10-15 support ships of different varieties, not to mention the 2-4 subs moving with their respective fleets, that's a very nasty fleet of vessels, there's almost no viable way Russia could launch a conventional strike that wouldn't warrant the litteral apocalypse of earth 😂 (Didn't mention Iran because one Carrier Fleet would flatten the entire country, let alone 2 entire Carrier Fleets, plus an entire MEU. Iran would last all of about 15 minutes)
@@christopherchartier3017 Saturation missile. Basicly same idea as with drone swarm, you launch ship-ton of those old low cost missiles to distract and eat away sam's to let LRAMS to get through underneath at the same time :)
Old but the Block Va are newest versions with plenty of range, payload, some stealth coating, and improved seekers meant to hitting moving targets, with a loitering capability you got something to distract the enemy and let the USN have ship to ship long range strike. We won't get into the b and c versions with the tandem warheads and thermobaric secondaries.@@christopherchartier3017
I would assume the system doesnt allow for the hypersonics to hold off until the slower missiles get part way over, as to make them all come in toward target with same timing?
Hmm that´s an interesting thought. Another thing im wondering about is wouldn´t the Chinese push the big red button and send everything at once instead of salvos`? If so then spawn double ships with only one salvo on each ship so that everything fires at once, then despawn half of them after they fired. Is this possible?
@@grimreapers missile launch timing could be triggered by keeping them out of max range until you want them in range to fire. Absolutely changes end location and arrangement of the fleet when facing enemy salvo.
@@ck12msyeah but in that case you would also want to time those the resumes to go in at the same time of a massive Harpoon strikes at Sea would probably also utilize.
Can the F-35 quarterback for the F-18s? What I mean is when the F-35s are up close and can detect J-35s, the F-35s can data link to the F-18s in murder spec to fire off their AIM 260s from a distance? Or this goes beyond what DCS can do at the moment?
I won't speak for anyone else but I actually like the videos where BLUFOR gets the short end of the fight. It's interesting to see why "the good guys" came up short this time, and I'd argue it's more instructive than a W.
Terminal speed of the YJ-21 is around mach 4 , it is still difficult to intercept because it is hypersonic, but not in its terminal phase, although when it’s on its terminal phase it doesn’t go hypersonic anymore.
Got a source for that? The claimed speed are mach 6 during flight and mach 10 in the terminal phase. It doesnt make sense for a weapon to go slower in the terminal phase. The YJ21 is not just a ballistic missile, it has a powered flight at least on partialy if not completely. The attack is mostly vertical, the time it spends in the deep atmosphere is very very short (2-3 seconds), it doesnt slow down during that time because it might actually be accelerating using it's engine.
@@billwhoever2830 the thing is that a scramjet engine does not work how to speed slower than five times the speed of sound , so if it isn’t a scramjet then it’s a solid fuel booster which is terribly inefficient and would limit severely the YJ 21 is payload. Also, turning uses up a lot of energy so turning the YJ 21 is going to slow it down even further By the way, what you are saying, is that it takes three seconds for the YJ 21 to get through the deep part of the atmosphere, that would mean that the YJ 21 manages to accomplish around mach 18 while going through the deepest part of the atmosphere, at a realistic angle. It also doesn’t make sense to me why the YJ 21 would go in at a higher speed when is decelerating in the thick part of the atmosphere, it might also burn its sensors . The YJ 21 is based on an American design for a hypersonic missile that didn’t get enough funding to be completed. That’s because of hypersonic weapons were not considered a priority and also, because, even though it was a good weapon, it didn’t bring any super ability to the table, of course, there are hypersonic’s that glide in the upper part of the atmosphere at giant speeds, but the YJ 21 is not one of them.
By the way, the way the YJ 21 is incredibly similar to the failed American weapon I just talked about, and it is similar to the Russian kinjal ,using this information, my sources on those two missiles one of them being part of an actual patriot unit crew, and of course, my common sense ,critical thinking and my knowledge I have concluded along with many other individuals that the YJ 21 is a threat, but only if used in large numbers, hypersonic’s can be intercepted, but a lot of them like 32 hypersonic missiles is a pretty big threat, but that’s 4 055 class destroyers worth of hypersonic missiles.
@@Dimitris_Datseriswith that terminal velocity it doesn't need a warhead. The kinetic energy is already enough to destroys carriers. K. E. = m*v^2 And just like in m*c^2 the "^2" makes a number very very big. So mach 10 is roughly 8000 km/h and because in physics we use m/s That 8000 will become (8000*1000) /3600 m/s => roughly 2222 m/s So even if the missile has a mass of 1 kg it will cause 5million joules of damage. Wich I just realizer isn't a lot... I might have done something wrong so if anyone can correct it I would really appreciate it. 🤔 Edit: I used 1 kilogram but 1 kilogram is 9.81 N so you need to multiply is by 10. Wich makes more sense cause usually ballistic missiles are a couple Tons.
@@yuning8045 I am amazed and happy that we have someone that is smart enough to do the math, most people don’t do that they just believe everything someone says, but what I want to say is that a hypersonic missile will take an aircraft carrier out of action, but it will not sink any modern american aircraft carrier, here’s where the warhead comes in, you see most of the damage is done on the upper part of the carrier, but warheads can damage areas of the ship that would otherwise not be damaged. Anyway, I am proud to see someone doing maths instead of believing everything he sees on the Internet
Another thing DCS does not do well is electric warfare. Any way hypersonic missiles have of detecting a ship will be detected by and used as targeting against that missile. As well as disrupting the missile targeting.
Great vid! Have gotten distracted by a few other sims and just recently got back to my DCS investment. Man I forgot how good its looks. Glad your still making great vids. (I'm the guy who gave you guys a nice xmas donation a few years back) Will be following your vids again as I'm back in the saddle so to speak.
Every time I watch these great sims I think of if this really happened how quickly hundreds to thousands of the world’s greatest pilots who some have spent decades training, millions to billions of dollars invested and have gone through all that comes with being a world class fighter pilot personally and professionally, gone in seconds and it’s very surreal.
Hundreds or thousands of american pilots aren't going to get killed. China has a huuuuuge problem with both competent pilots, training pilots, flying hours, and training with dissimilar aircraft using western techniques and doctrine. Look no further than the U.S. aircraft that was intercepted in international airspace by a J-15 "Flopping Fish" who almost collided with us, had his speed brake in the full up position and the engines in full afterburner. The "Flying Shark" J-15 is called the Flopping Fish by its own news media in China because it barely makes enough power to take off from a Carrier. Their pilots suck, essentially. It takes 3 Chinese turbines for Helicopters to make the same power as 1 American turbine in a Chinook, hence why they tried to steal one. I promise their missiles don't work like they say...just like everything russian.
So in the last video, the LRASMs were easily being intercepted by the Chinese but in this video, they were having a pretty hard time, I wonder why is that so? Also, the CIWS (Gun+Missile) was unable to defend the ship from missiles and the F-35 flying around.
the only possible explanation is the loss of AWACs but yeah point defense and CWIS not shooting F35s at rifle range is pretty silly. I half expect guys on the deck of the ships to start unloading small arms at F35s.
It might be all they have against hypersonics once the hypersonic tech matures. The math just gets too hard to guide a missile or a round with the necessary accuracy. I'm on the outside looking in, but I'd assume you can get a DE weapon on anything you can get a radar lock on, so I'd assume you'd just prime the round to discharge (not sure what the terminology is here) as soon as the lock was obtained. But I'm a civvie who is taking a high-school-physics approach to thinking this through.
Have your group been able to figure out how to launch LRASM from the Mk 41 VLS platform in dcs? If so you could do a scenario where a US carrier strike group goes after a Chinese naval port, effectively an opposite scenario of your Chinese strikes on San Diego.
We would probably use mostly tomahawks for such an attack, considering how many we have in inventory and the number of vessels that field it (think of SSGNs). I haven’t seen any physical proof USN DDGs and CGs carrying LRASM, but I would guess they are since most no longer have Harpoon fitted
@@TFY-v8l What kind of modern destroyer in the world cannot shoot down an F35 within 10 to 15 miles? You can even see the jet at this range with your eyes.
With respect to accuracy of hypersonics, its well known that MARVs with active radar like the pershing 2 from the 80s could guide themselves with a CEP of 30m, China has most likely well surpassed technology from the 80s and could get that down to half that which is more than accurate enough to hit a carrier sized target.
@@wind_runner6836 Didn't even have to steal it, Clinton literally sold them that tech in the 90s. How do you think chinese ICBMs went for 300m CEP down to 20m in less than a decade?
@@hughmungus2760 bro a president cannot unilaterally sell anything financial powers are the sole domain of Congress. Don't just make stuff up lol especially something that is so clearly wrong. It wasn't Icbm tech it was satellite launch tech an that stuff they had developed. I don't support the move but it's not the same type of rocket. Congress also Approved and it was a transfer no selling.
@@wind_runner6836 the exact controversy was that clinton allowed civilian satellite technology to be transfered to china. This enabled china to greatly improve the reliability and accuracy of their spaceflight capabilities. which had a dual use application of making chinese ballistic missiles more accurate. Furthermore this greatly accelerated the chinese aerospace industry in general allowing for countless other weapons systems to be improved. It defacto was Clinton selling china the tech. That being said, theres no denying that china has at least equivalent tech, their more modern ballistic missiles are entirely capable of hitting targets under 10m in size.
In Ultimate Admiral : Dreadnaughts there's an RNG for dud-rate on torpedoes. As your tech level increases the dud-rate goes down. It's interesting that DCS has so many other things modelled well, yet it doesn't have something like that.
Presumes there was knowledge that a fight was needed to be engaged, and that the best choice was to launch more than one type back to back. With a limited number of deck choices, putting up fighter capable craft first isn't a terrible tactic.
Brilliant! It would be nice to see complete devastation, even if one could save the map where it is at and launch whatever is left. I guess the carrier being sunk will have to do.
Thank You God! Some Sanity! I have been gone on stuff for a while and have seen nothing but death and I need some fricken GR for real!!!! I cannot wait to watch this!
Here's a test... some of the US Ohio-class submarines have been converted to fire guided missiles instead of nuclear ballistic missiles (such as the USS Michigan). I don't know if it would be possible in real life to fire Harpoons instead of Tomahawks from the missile silos, but if it was hypothetically possible, and an Ohio-class submarine launched 154 Harpoons at any enemy carrier group, what would happen? Could the US stop a Chinese invasion of Taiwan with a single submarine? For extra fun, what if it was 154 LRASMs instead of Harpoons?
just a thought. IF I was in charge of a carrier group and I new I was going against another carrier group I would use at least a few of my stealth planes loaded with anti ship missiles sending them LOW and fast
The amount of money, work, hardware and trained people that would be spent and lost during a carrier battle would be a crime against the human race. All that treasure should be spent exploring Space
It wasn't actually CH, it was core game that's changed. They can now be detected and the RCS can't be made any smaller, or they no longer work at all. It's a weird thing that happened, but I suspect this is just how it is now so we'll just have to accept it :(
@@grimreapers The Type 055s seemed to not defend except with CIWS which was interesting. Regardless of realism, I think not having LRASM be an auto-kill cheat code makes things a bit more interesting to watch.
@@duanemckinley9353 they were at least shooting SAMs at them this time. but no AWACs and poor performance of HQ9s at close range really hampered them. The HHQ10s should have been firing though.
The biggest reason the Chinese & Russians "beat" the U.S. to developing Hypersonic missles, is they are generally agreed to not be very useful. Because they have fly so high, 100K+ they're easy to see and shoot down
What happens to Chinese missle accuracy when US turns selective availability back on the GPS signals and the hypersonic defense system the US has not made public yet?
Cap, video idea: F35I (so it will have "Sidekick")with Python 5s and AIM 120D-3s and a RCS of 0.0001m2 (according a to 4 star US General stealthy more stealthy than Raptor) vs F22 with AIM 120D-3 and AIM 9X. Could you guys do. But Cap please fly the F35 since your last F22 and F35 vs SU 57 and J20/SU35 videos you were never in the F35. Thanks loving your content.
Its safe to assume anything under 20nm will be engaged by EOTS rather than radar so unless the F35I has optical stealth its going to get seen and engaged.
CH, CH, CH, CH! Is there a way to get a hold of this guy? Cap never seems to see me, or reply. I have what may be the easiest weapon system to revive, which could make the F35 better than the A10, from the viewpoint of the GAU-8.
@grimreapers Hello Cap, if that is you. I might try myself, but my old PC is down, and I don't know how to mod things in DCS. I think there is an old program that should be brought back, which could help bridge the gap between the F-35 and the A-10, short of shoehorning a GAU-8 into an F-35. Go figure, it was a Lockheed Martin project. The missiles used the now catch-phrase-like title of hypersonic missiles. They were kinetic kill missiles about 6 feet long and 6 inches in diameter. The range would be about 3x that of the GAU-8. I did some rough estimates a while back, and I think an internal system could hold about 32, and murder mode could go as high as 100. Yeah. These missiles had a small amount of guidance via laser, and I think it used steering via gassing, or however one might describe the AIM-260 means of maneuver. It would be really sexy on an F-35C, as the wing area is greater than an A-10, it has over twice the thrust, and stealth. Are you seeing the potential here? I think if someone like CH would help get a demonstration going, it could become a real-world thing. GR could help make this happen! Thanks in advance.
Watching your starting briefing - is there a way in DCS to have 2 types of YJ-21, one that performs as the specifications, and another where you “nerf” the game file so it doesn’t perform properly - and load the Chinese warship with a mix of both so it launches them but half just fizzle?
How about a more likely battle scenario where the hypersonic missiles only function properly at the same rate as they did when they were doing the mock attack on Taiwan and nearly 20% of the missiles failed to either launch of flew off course etc. (total # publicly announced by PLA). Also, how about having the Chinese "Super-Carrier" tied up at dock for repairs/outfitting where it's been for the better part of nearly two years.
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I am quite excited for American hypersonics, I think they will be a massive problem for the Chinese assuming there are some ship launched ones that can go at the start.
I have a feeling the only thing that can launch a hypersonic on the US side are strategic bombers, they're far too large to VLS cells and fighters to carry.
Does he ever explain why chooses the proportions? Why 50 vs 56 jets? It's not congruent with the amount of jets each country has or with how many jets each carrier can carry. Seems like a random number
I feel like players should pilot the F18s and coordinate their launches so that the LRASMS arrive in two very large waves rather than have them spaced out in groups like that.
The YJs need to be debuffed. There is absolutely no way that they fly Mach 8+ and they are absolutely not as accurate as is in-game. Need to be made Mach 5/6 ish again. For the British/USA issue, why don't you just create a mixed fleet of British and USA vs China and Russia, i.e. stick the RN carrier next to the USN Carrier in the same CBG and have 2 T45s with 2 ABs and a Tico?
he explained that they cant deconflict. there would be just as many wasted missiles it would just be harder to notice. much like older videos where every ship in a fleet fired 1 missile at every target leading to 1-6 KD
@@BoraHorzaGobuchul im sure there is but the amount of time going through source code isnt worth it. if they put out one video every two weeks then it may be feasible. but, on this timeframe of consistent novel content, it just isnt worth the time.
But they are mach 5/6 ish. Look at their speed in terminal velocity...4000 knots at sea level thats mach 6. You people just want to see US wipe out every enemy otherwise you whine
These naval battles are nice but unless the US smashes the opoonent everyone in the comments complains so the battles turn out to be like "let's do this battle and if the US doesn't wipe out the enemy we'll nerf the enemy". F35's flying above a whole CSG without being shot and LRASM being almost impossible to intercept is just funny.
I'm not a tech guy by any means, so I'm just spit balling, but maybe the issue with AI threat assessment could be making them run a procedure for each target that they acquire by 'tagging' them with a number(1, 2, 3) 1s are the primary contact for a procedure, 2s are secondary contacts that get hit by the next cell(which would be a whole lot more code for individual missile cell and its assignment to a specific vessel, which order they fire, etc.) and 3s would be a number that excludes those particular craft from being added to the next firing sequence, while "0" could be put onto targets not yet added to a queue. So lets say three contacts pop up flying in a wedge. The lead craft would be the first contact, so "1." The next two would be "2," but both 1 and 2 are also tagged with "3," so that if more contacts come in, those first three targets, which are already queued, and being engaged, aren't attacked twice. Ambitious idea as well would be to make a separate algorithm that uses data from the whole map and measures targets' flight path and current altitude to select the missile used. Once again, no idea about software, coding, hardware, etc. so I wouldn't know how to do ANY of that, but its an idea Edit: I spent 10 minutes typing this and didn't pause ;-;
Also I dot get why HHQ10s weren't firing. they clearly had line of sight and their entire purpose is to defend against things like LRASMs, you can't possibly tell me LRASMs are invisible on IR when CWIS is shooting at them.
True, but at the same time im pretty sure that those missiles also utilise radar tracking aswell (as a result of a SARH) so if its searching using radar then it may not see it until its too late. Even so, i would expect the missile to be detected by radar shortly after it gets WVR of the ships.
@@rileymorrisroe6743 those missiles were definately seen by radar, the HQ9s were shooting at them but because of R min they couldn't hit them past a certain point. Thats why the HHQ10 exists.
@@hughmungus2760 I agree, (i got to about a third of the way throught the video and got so started scrolling though comments), and yeah the HHQ-10 exists, but my point is that the HHQ-10 isnt a soley IR guided missile. Which may have bought time for the LRASMs (but unlikely, i am just saying what may have happened to prevent their engagement in the sim).
@@rileymorrisroe6743 As far as Im aware, DCS doesn't allow dual seeker engagement, meaning that a single type of missile can only be either radar or IR and that can't be changed during the battle.
@@hughmungus2760 If the HHQ-10 is set to radar guided, then that means that its more possible for the LRASMs to stay off of the radar given the incredibly low altitude.
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Maritime strike tomahawks are in active use right now, they should be included here
They would just be shot down given the way the sim has the SAM systems working significantly better than they actually do in real life.
@@MTBScotlandbut there's lots of them, throw those out with some LRASM to chase up, they're done for
@@s4ss.m8the problem is in order to do that you're going to have to take space from the LARSM .
So in all reality the only way you're going to be able to do that and with a coordinated air and ship strike which is not possible given the limitations of DCs. Or trying to figure out a way to involve the Air Force in this strike and then you're getting Way Beyond the scope of what the actual scenario is
It’s frustrating that we could do multiple time on target strikes across multiple platforms 20 years ago in Harpoon 2, but DCS can’t do it.
@@Wyomingchief attack and ballistic missile subs can also fire tomahawks, don't know of their capabilities in dcs but irl they do they have the ability to do a coordinated air and naval strike. naval f18s, f35s, b1b lancers as well as ships and subs can do a massive tomahawk and LRASM strike which will be very effective, it'll just be super costly. you can launch tomahawks in front then follow it up with LRAMS or mix them in one big salvo and let them deconflict, the tomahawk can loiter around the airspace until it finds a target and the LRASM got its own radar that it can use to detect hostile targets based on priority threat. the ships and planes have enough LRASMS and tomahawks to do such a strike, its the SAMs they'll be taking space away from the strike group will have less defensive missiles to work with but its still over 200
I know it's not quite in yet but F-35 squadrons do a large amount of exercises involving cruise missile detection and intercept because the DAS can lock them; hypersonic speeds means hypersonic temps and the F-35 has been on video detecting ballistic launches from ridiculously far, partially because of the light emitted in boost phase. Should be capable of datalinking the info to Aegis for either the radar to look at or to launch on if the distance information is there. Having a couple of them in the air just loitering up high would pose a serious threat to incoming hypersonics and would require J-35s to take them down first, might make for an interesting video.
F 35C.....beside the Tomcat and Hornet....I like them all.
Stop coping and I hope cap doesn’t add this bs
@@agnesakioyamen2576 elaborate...?
@@forzaelite1248 Send me where you found this info
@@agnesakioyamen2576 wow, man. There isn't anything even slightly derogatory or negative in this post. I'll assume that you have information I don't which supports your statement.
If the US has a 4 to 1(at worst) carrier group advantage to any enemy(or Two), why would they ever voluntarily try and go 1 on 1 with another carrier group, and lose that advantage?
American cannot recall carriers and warships from other theatres especially if those theatres are active. American can probably bring four fleet carriers to bare immediately in a pacific war but after the first few months they will likely only have two or three carriers tops at any given point in the pacific and any battle damage taken by the carriers will take years at least to repair and refit. They won’t be able to replace carriers that take battle damage with ships from other theatres because it would leave the US vulnerable in other parts of the world. If the 5th fleet left the Med for the pacific it would leave that entire region vulnerable. If those ships also take battle damage then two fleet capabilities are completely reduced and America may as well have lost the war at that point. America cannot rely on its numbers advantage because they insist on being over extended worldwide in a world police role. They can only rely on their technological edge and logistical advantage both of which are falling behind China specifically leaving America extremely vulnerable in the next pacific war. I think it’s safe to say America will it win against China at least not on their terms.
YJ18 is much slower than YJ21. For effective saturation attach, YJ21 should be fired after YJ18 so that both reach the targets at the same time. This will more likely overload the opponent defense system.
Question: is there no ship-launched decoy missile? Those would make ASMs much more survivable for the side using them
I don't think you can program the ships to do this in DCS, afaik they just unload every anti-ship missile as soon as they are in it's range to fire.
Yes, but there is no way to simulate this in DCS.
True, but cant do that in game. :(
@@sulyokpeter3941 Cant you have players control the ships and launch on command?
This is my favourite content on youtube right now. Awesome work GR!
Lol Simba being sad we didnt get to see him buzz the tower of the carrier. Love the GR crew !
You guys rock, best time of my day is watching these “sims”.
@Grim Reapers - Good stuff folks!
6:30 - Thank you, Simba, for pointing that out.
40:50 "I am a batch of many, many LRASMs on a Y-front..."
A Mach-10 missile (YJ-21) only has a 30% chance of hitting a Mach 0.04 target (ship), but a Mach-3 missile (SM-6) has an over 30% chance of hitting a Mach-10 target (YJ-21)
CEP on YJ21s will pretty much ensure they nail carrier sized targets 9/10 times. And their use would only really be restricted to that role anyway.
@@hughmungus2760 yup
Dont feel bad Cap...i got a busted back crooked vertebraes to herniated discs and a bloody tumour right Smack at the T 12 level😢😢😢..keep your heads up mates!... heading to doctor soon...nice mission and take care all!
Yikes! Take care.
Oof, I crushed T-12 and broke my coccyx just before July. Take care of yourself and I hope you get well fast!
Good Lord that sounds terrible. GWS!
I would love it if a grim reaper (not necessarily cap) produced some of these engagements in Command Modern operations using the tac view.
I'm even tempted to do it if I had time.
how long does it take to set up a scenario in CMO?
Its ALOT more automated. And you can do MUCH bigger scenarios.@@mr.puffin7232
It exists already. You will find it on their forums, it's somewhere in the first 8-10 pages. I've seen it a few days ago.
With the announcement of a 2nd carrier group heading for the Mediterranean, could you run a simulation where Iran & Russia launch a surprise attack on two carrier groups?
OK
@@grimreaperswhoo hoo! I hope you feel better.
GOOD IDEA! HUGE ONE! :D
hypothetically what can a carrier do against torpedoes launched from the coast if they are less than 20nm away from the shore? They likely wont see them coming until the torpedoes turn on active sonar.
@@hughmungus2760with the amount of eyes watching the area there's no way a sub would get close, 2 carriers, 2 LHDs, an MEU and probably 10-15 support ships of different varieties, not to mention the 2-4 subs moving with their respective fleets, that's a very nasty fleet of vessels, there's almost no viable way Russia could launch a conventional strike that wouldn't warrant the litteral apocalypse of earth 😂
(Didn't mention Iran because one Carrier Fleet would flatten the entire country, let alone 2 entire Carrier Fleets, plus an entire MEU. Iran would last all of about 15 minutes)
CH, you should add a 2nd variant with visible tracers for videos like this.
Yup
The "Hollywood" variant.
@@wickbroke2950 cope
What's with the lack of Tomahawk Block Va's? Those are supposed to be in active use right now.
I can't get CH to make them and I rely on CH for all this stuff so there's not a lot I can do.
What’s so good about the tomahawk? I thought it was pretty old
@@christopherchartier3017it's plentiful
@@christopherchartier3017 Saturation missile. Basicly same idea as with drone swarm, you launch ship-ton of those old low cost missiles to distract and eat away sam's to let LRAMS to get through underneath at the same time :)
Old but the Block Va are newest versions with plenty of range, payload, some stealth coating, and improved seekers meant to hitting moving targets, with a loitering capability you got something to distract the enemy and let the USN have ship to ship long range strike. We won't get into the b and c versions with the tandem warheads and thermobaric secondaries.@@christopherchartier3017
I would assume the system doesnt allow for the hypersonics to hold off until the slower missiles get part way over, as to make them all come in toward target with same timing?
Would be awesome but don't think so.
Hmm that´s an interesting thought. Another thing im wondering about is wouldn´t the Chinese push the big red button and send everything at once instead of salvos`? If so then spawn double ships with only one salvo on each ship so that everything fires at once, then despawn half of them after they fired. Is this possible?
yeah a time on target strike with YJ18s and YJ21s will be nearly impossible to stop.
@@grimreapers missile launch timing could be triggered by keeping them out of max range until you want them in range to fire. Absolutely changes end location and arrangement of the fleet when facing enemy salvo.
@@ck12msyeah but in that case you would also want to time those the resumes to go in at the same time of a massive Harpoon strikes at Sea would probably also utilize.
I agree with you. If you're going to have colour-coded smoke trails on missiles, you should also have tracers.
Cap couldn’t the us carrier carry more than 56 fighters?
Exactly
Closer to 90 I thought?
The Nimitz carry’s on average 75 planes while deployed and the new fords carry 90 on average.
AFAIK it's to model not jets being ready
@@McAllisterCo literally just redid a match to buff the US because too many americans were coping and you're still complaining? Unbelievable
Can the F-35 quarterback for the F-18s? What I mean is when the F-35s are up close and can detect J-35s, the F-35s can data link to the F-18s in murder spec to fire off their AIM 260s from a distance? Or this goes beyond what DCS can do at the moment?
I won't speak for anyone else but I actually like the videos where BLUFOR gets the short end of the fight. It's interesting to see why "the good guys" came up short this time, and I'd argue it's more instructive than a W.
Terminal speed of the YJ-21 is around mach 4 , it is still difficult to intercept because it is hypersonic, but not in its terminal phase, although
when it’s on its terminal phase it doesn’t go hypersonic anymore.
Got a source for that?
The claimed speed are mach 6 during flight and mach 10 in the terminal phase.
It doesnt make sense for a weapon to go slower in the terminal phase. The YJ21 is not just a ballistic missile, it has a powered flight at least on partialy if not completely. The attack is mostly vertical, the time it spends in the deep atmosphere is very very short (2-3 seconds), it doesnt slow down during that time because it might actually be accelerating using it's engine.
@@billwhoever2830 the thing is that a scramjet engine does not work how to speed slower than five times the speed of sound , so if it isn’t a scramjet then it’s a solid fuel booster which is terribly inefficient and would limit severely the YJ 21 is payload.
Also, turning uses up a lot of energy so turning the YJ 21 is going to slow it down even further
By the way, what you are saying, is that it takes three seconds for the YJ 21 to get through the deep part of the atmosphere, that would mean that the YJ 21 manages to accomplish around mach 18 while going through the deepest part of the atmosphere, at a realistic angle.
It also doesn’t make sense to me why the YJ 21 would go in at a higher speed when is decelerating in the thick part of the atmosphere, it might also burn its sensors .
The YJ 21 is based on an American design for a hypersonic missile that didn’t get enough funding to be completed. That’s because of hypersonic weapons were not considered a priority and also, because, even though it was a good weapon, it didn’t bring any super ability to the table, of course, there are hypersonic’s that glide in the upper part of the atmosphere at giant speeds, but the YJ 21 is not one of them.
By the way, the way the YJ 21 is incredibly similar to the failed American weapon I just talked about, and it is similar to the Russian kinjal ,using this information, my sources on those two missiles one of them being part of an actual patriot unit crew, and of course, my common sense ,critical thinking and my knowledge I have concluded along with many other individuals that the YJ 21 is a threat, but only if used in large numbers, hypersonic’s can be intercepted, but a lot of them like 32 hypersonic missiles is a pretty big threat, but that’s 4 055 class destroyers worth of hypersonic missiles.
@@Dimitris_Datseriswith that terminal velocity it doesn't need a warhead.
The kinetic energy is already enough to destroys carriers.
K. E. = m*v^2
And just like in m*c^2 the "^2" makes a number very very big.
So mach 10 is roughly 8000 km/h and because in physics we use m/s That 8000 will become (8000*1000) /3600 m/s
=> roughly 2222 m/s
So even if the missile has a mass of 1 kg it will cause 5million joules of damage.
Wich I just realizer isn't a lot...
I might have done something wrong so if anyone can correct it I would really appreciate it.
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Edit: I used 1 kilogram but 1 kilogram is 9.81 N so you need to multiply is by 10.
Wich makes more sense cause usually ballistic missiles are a couple Tons.
@@yuning8045 I am amazed and happy that we have someone that is smart enough to do the math, most people don’t do that they just believe everything someone says, but what I want to say is that a hypersonic missile will take an aircraft carrier out of action, but it will not sink any modern american aircraft carrier, here’s where the warhead comes in, you see most of the damage is done on the upper part of the carrier, but warheads can damage areas of the ship that would otherwise not be damaged.
Anyway, I am proud to see someone doing maths instead of believing everything he sees on the Internet
Another thing DCS does not do well is electric warfare. Any way hypersonic missiles have of detecting a ship will be detected by and used as targeting against that missile. As well as disrupting the missile targeting.
Sitting at desk distance on a 27" screen at 1080p I have to move closer to read the scoreboard. But it would be too distracting any larger.
They should be shooting the YJ-18 first, and YJ-21 soon after, so they hit about the same time. That would make defending even harder.
Then the viewers will request more modification and nerf the Chinese side so the US side can win.
Honestly Cap, I think you could make these into a 2 hour movie and we would still watch all of it ! ( or at least I know I would )
m8, half the world falls asleep halfway through movies so why not make it 4 hours?
@@giupiete6536 Half the world has the attention span of a gnat, Seems more like their problem then mine.
@@Pimps-R-us I... think perhaps you thought I came across as being critical.
@@giupiete6536 Nah, not at all. Just making a statement about society. You good man
@@Pimps-R-us read half of what u wrote
Novel much? LMAO LOL HA HA 😂 🎉 😊
Godspeed valued Captain
Great vid! Have gotten distracted by a few other sims and just recently got back to my DCS investment. Man I forgot how good its looks.
Glad your still making great vids. (I'm the guy who gave you guys a nice xmas donation a few years back) Will be following your vids again as I'm back in the saddle so to speak.
Every time I watch these great sims I think of if this really happened how quickly hundreds to thousands of the world’s greatest pilots who some have spent decades training, millions to billions of dollars invested and have gone through all that comes with being a world class fighter pilot personally and professionally, gone in seconds and it’s very surreal.
Hundreds or thousands of american pilots aren't going to get killed. China has a huuuuuge problem with both competent pilots, training pilots, flying hours, and training with dissimilar aircraft using western techniques and doctrine. Look no further than the U.S. aircraft that was intercepted in international airspace by a J-15 "Flopping Fish" who almost collided with us, had his speed brake in the full up position and the engines in full afterburner. The "Flying Shark" J-15 is called the Flopping Fish by its own news media in China because it barely makes enough power to take off from a Carrier. Their pilots suck, essentially. It takes 3 Chinese turbines for Helicopters to make the same power as 1 American turbine in a Chinook, hence why they tried to steal one. I promise their missiles don't work like they say...just like everything russian.
So in the last video, the LRASMs were easily being intercepted by the Chinese but in this video, they were having a pretty hard time, I wonder why is that so? Also, the CIWS (Gun+Missile) was unable to defend the ship from missiles and the F-35 flying around.
the only possible explanation is the loss of AWACs but yeah point defense and CWIS not shooting F35s at rifle range is pretty silly. I half expect guys on the deck of the ships to start unloading small arms at F35s.
I wonder how feasible energy-directed weapons would be against hypersonic missiles?
It might be all they have against hypersonics once the hypersonic tech matures. The math just gets too hard to guide a missile or a round with the necessary accuracy. I'm on the outside looking in, but I'd assume you can get a DE weapon on anything you can get a radar lock on, so I'd assume you'd just prime the round to discharge (not sure what the terminology is here) as soon as the lock was obtained. But I'm a civvie who is taking a high-school-physics approach to thinking this through.
Have your group been able to figure out how to launch LRASM from the Mk 41 VLS platform in dcs? If so you could do a scenario where a US carrier strike group goes after a Chinese naval port, effectively an opposite scenario of your Chinese strikes on San Diego.
We would probably use mostly tomahawks for such an attack, considering how many we have in inventory and the number of vessels that field it (think of SSGNs).
I haven’t seen any physical proof USN DDGs and CGs carrying LRASM, but I would guess they are since most no longer have Harpoon fitted
coding a mach 4-5 terminal speed missile to mach 8-10 terminal is a noteworthy change from real life
The Type 055s and 052Ds are quite underpowered in the DCS as compared to real life.
What about them is underpowered?
@@duanemckinley9353 Weapon and sub systems both seem quite underpowered
@@mshahmirrazahow would u know if they're underpowered? They've never been used
@@TFY-v8l What kind of modern destroyer in the world cannot shoot down an F35 within 10 to 15 miles? You can even see the jet at this range with your eyes.
@@TFY-v8l And how do you know they're not underpowered?
This scenario is now so warped by DCS limitations and fans that can't bear to see the Americans lose that the value of it has gone.
You sound like a biden voter
@@bval2201I am British and would love to see Britain and America win in these scenarios but not by bending it out of shape.
I'm simply astounded that Chinese missiles can achieve Mach 10 being powered entirely by water... ;)
... dont mention the test records where 70% of them destabilized and blew up in flight
CH.... Please Put Back The Tracers On CWIS...
+1
No Tracers, No Fun. Know Tracers, Know Fun. Bring back the tracers.
搞不太懂，YJ21真的那么容易被拦截吗？
人家的游戏，你还想让人家模拟第一轮YJ21就把他们打沉了吗？
Would like to know a scenario for INdia vs Pakistan 2026 war featuring j10c and f17vs rafales and sukhois
Love to see LRASM finally interacting with other assets! No more console kill command!
With respect to accuracy of hypersonics, its well known that MARVs with active radar like the pershing 2 from the 80s could guide themselves with a CEP of 30m, China has most likely well surpassed technology from the 80s and could get that down to half that which is more than accurate enough to hit a carrier sized target.
yeah they haven't gotten to stealing that yet lol
@@wind_runner6836 Didn't even have to steal it, Clinton literally sold them that tech in the 90s. How do you think chinese ICBMs went for 300m CEP down to 20m in less than a decade?
@@hughmungus2760 bro a president cannot unilaterally sell anything financial powers are the sole domain of Congress. Don't just make stuff up lol especially something that is so clearly wrong. It wasn't Icbm tech it was satellite launch tech an that stuff they had developed. I don't support the move but it's not the same type of rocket. Congress also Approved and it was a transfer no selling.
@@wind_runner6836 the exact controversy was that clinton allowed civilian satellite technology to be transfered to china. This enabled china to greatly improve the reliability and accuracy of their spaceflight capabilities. which had a dual use application of making chinese ballistic missiles more accurate.
Furthermore this greatly accelerated the chinese aerospace industry in general allowing for countless other weapons systems to be improved.
It defacto was Clinton selling china the tech.
That being said, theres no denying that china has at least equivalent tech, their more modern ballistic missiles are entirely capable of hitting targets under 10m in size.
been watching grim reapers all day
you are my kind of viewer!
In Ultimate Admiral : Dreadnaughts there's an RNG for dud-rate on torpedoes. As your tech level increases the dud-rate goes down. It's interesting that DCS has so many other things modelled well, yet it doesn't have something like that.
F18s and LARASM launch 23 min into fight? They would have been right behind the F35 & Chinese ships toast before launching bombers?
Presumes there was knowledge that a fight was needed to be engaged, and that the best choice was to launch more than one type back to back. With a limited number of deck choices, putting up fighter capable craft first isn't a terrible tactic.
Do BRICS VS NATO NAVY BATTLE
Cool idea.
BRICS isn't a military alliance.
That would be fun but totally unrealistic
So the Indian and Chinese navy on the same side?
@@gundamator4709 yupp...including russia
Brilliant! It would be nice to see complete devastation, even if one could save the map where it is at and launch whatever is left. I guess the carrier being sunk will have to do.
Nice job Cap
thx
Thank You God! Some Sanity! I have been gone on stuff for a while and have seen nothing but death and I need some fricken GR for real!!!! I cannot wait to watch this!
These videos in times of conflict are my favorite form of war profiteering. 😍😍
Lol, I got to the 46 minute mark, don't worry, the viewers are still watching your whole videos
Watching on phone as I can't afford a laptop right now Cap. Appreciate the spoken readouts 🙌
Here's a test... some of the US Ohio-class submarines have been converted to fire guided missiles instead of nuclear ballistic missiles (such as the USS Michigan). I don't know if it would be possible in real life to fire Harpoons instead of Tomahawks from the missile silos, but if it was hypothetically possible, and an Ohio-class submarine launched 154 Harpoons at any enemy carrier group, what would happen? Could the US stop a Chinese invasion of Taiwan with a single submarine?
For extra fun, what if it was 154 LRASMs instead of Harpoons?
LRASM can't be fired from VLS much less fired from underwater.
I dont even play this game, i just like military stuff and ended up just vibing to the whole battle.
Get better soon!!!
just a thought.
IF I was in charge of a carrier group and I new I was going against another carrier group I would use at least a few of my stealth planes loaded with anti ship missiles sending them LOW and fast
The YJ-21 is blocked SO easy ? for god sake.
The amount of money, work, hardware and trained people that would be spent and lost during a carrier battle would be a crime against the human race.
All that treasure should be spent exploring Space
Did CH do something to the LRASM radar cross section? Seemed much more susceptible to Sam missiles
It wasn't actually CH, it was core game that's changed. They can now be detected and the RCS can't be made any smaller, or they no longer work at all. It's a weird thing that happened, but I suspect this is just how it is now so we'll just have to accept it :(
@@grimreapers The Type 055s seemed to not defend except with CIWS which was interesting. Regardless of realism, I think not having LRASM be an auto-kill cheat code makes things a bit more interesting to watch.
@@duanemckinley9353 Agreed
@@duanemckinley9353 they were at least shooting SAMs at them this time. but no AWACs and poor performance of HQ9s at close range really hampered them.
The HHQ10s should have been firing though.
The biggest reason the Chinese & Russians "beat" the U.S. to developing Hypersonic missles, is they are generally agreed to not be very useful. Because they have fly so high, 100K+ they're easy to see and shoot down
I think DCSworld rates YJ-21 too low. it is like anything could intercept it easily.
43:38 Ahhh yes, the venerable Colt 911, proudly serving the US Army since 911 CE... or was it Sept. 11th?
Great work men! Really
Enjoy the entire show
Suggestion: 8 hours of wargames to jazz and chill house to study to.
Also LOL at the chinese force push.
Yes, I am on my phone. It’s the only thing I got to watch it with.
What happens to Chinese missle accuracy when US turns selective availability back on the GPS signals and the hypersonic defense system the US has not made public yet?
My ex wife worked on the Aegis Combat System during its development…. Pretty meet the had a mock aircraft tower they used to test it.
Cap, video idea: F35I (so it will have "Sidekick")with Python 5s and AIM 120D-3s and a RCS of 0.0001m2 (according a to 4 star US General stealthy more stealthy than Raptor) vs F22 with AIM 120D-3 and AIM 9X. Could you guys do. But Cap please fly the F35 since your last F22 and F35 vs SU 57 and J20/SU35 videos you were never in the F35. Thanks loving your content.
Its safe to assume anything under 20nm will be engaged by EOTS rather than radar so unless the F35I has optical stealth its going to get seen and engaged.
CH, CH, CH, CH! Is there a way to get a hold of this guy? Cap never seems to see me, or reply. I have what may be the easiest weapon system to revive, which could make the F35 better than the A10, from the viewpoint of the GAU-8.
He has so many people trying to reach him he had to put himself on mute to hide. Can't blame him.
@grimreapers Hello Cap, if that is you. I might try myself, but my old PC is down, and I don't know how to mod things in DCS. I think there is an old program that should be brought back, which could help bridge the gap between the F-35 and the A-10, short of shoehorning a GAU-8 into an F-35. Go figure, it was a Lockheed Martin project. The missiles used the now catch-phrase-like title of hypersonic missiles. They were kinetic kill missiles about 6 feet long and 6 inches in diameter. The range would be about 3x that of the GAU-8. I did some rough estimates a while back, and I think an internal system could hold about 32, and murder mode could go as high as 100. Yeah. These missiles had a small amount of guidance via laser, and I think it used steering via gassing, or however one might describe the AIM-260 means of maneuver.
It would be really sexy on an F-35C, as the wing area is greater than an A-10, it has over twice the thrust, and stealth. Are you seeing the potential here? I think if someone like CH would help get a demonstration going, it could become a real-world thing. GR could help make this happen! Thanks in advance.
Watching your starting briefing - is there a way in DCS to have 2 types of YJ-21, one that performs as the specifications, and another where you “nerf” the game file so it doesn’t perform properly - and load the Chinese warship with a mix of both so it launches them but half just fizzle?
How about a more likely battle scenario where the hypersonic missiles only function properly at the same rate as they did when they were doing the mock attack on Taiwan and nearly 20% of the missiles failed to either launch of flew off course etc. (total # publicly announced by PLA). Also, how about having the Chinese "Super-Carrier" tied up at dock for repairs/outfitting where it's been for the better part of nearly two years.
Never felt better to be a valued viewer
I saw some Anti-Ship missiles on the way in right before the video ended. Did those make it through?
I must admit I was too busy talking nonsense so didn;t notice sorry :(
@@grimreapers Did the missiles end up sinking something or did they got shot down by more telephone poles?
hey cap question would anything change if you send the anti ship first on the blue side then the fighters.
The fact he did the briefing again in detail despite it being a rematch.
Its going to get interesting when china gets the PL17 with 400km of range which can snipe AWACs all the way across the map.
Long awaited 3rd rematch U.S. Carrier Fleet VS Russian Carrier Fleet!🙏
Please-- U.S. Carrier half F/A-18F Super Hornet's, half ST-21 Super Tomcat's, and broken into quarters F-18's air-air take off first then ST-21 air-air next F-18's anti-ship and ST-21 anti-ship! One Amphibious Assault Ship with F-35's and Helicopters! Russian Carrier half SU-33's half MIG-29KR's! Human Pilots U.S. F-15EX and or F-22! Russian MIG-31 and or SU-57!👍
I am quite excited for American hypersonics, I think they will be a massive problem for the Chinese assuming there are some ship launched ones that can go at the start.
I have a feeling the only thing that can launch a hypersonic on the US side are strategic bombers, they're far too large to VLS cells and fighters to carry.
AWESOME! I'm not sure my blood pressure can handle your sims. Heart attack or stroke?
Who needs hypersonic missiles when ya have lasers?
As I recall that also makes Scuds way to accurate compared to real life too...to the point of it being kinda silly.
Does he ever explain why chooses the proportions? Why 50 vs 56 jets? It's not congruent with the amount of jets each country has or with how many jets each carrier can carry. Seems like a random number
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I have been watching your DCS on my phone for a long time. I enjoy it very muchly😊
I feel like players should pilot the F18s and coordinate their launches so that the LRASMS arrive in two very large waves rather than have them spaced out in groups like that.
Who watches these on computers? Or not on the toilet?
The YJs need to be debuffed. There is absolutely no way that they fly Mach 8+ and they are absolutely not as accurate as is in-game. Need to be made Mach 5/6 ish again.
For the British/USA issue, why don't you just create a mixed fleet of British and USA vs China and Russia, i.e. stick the RN carrier next to the USN Carrier in the same CBG and have 2 T45s with 2 ABs and a Tico?
he explained that they cant deconflict. there would be just as many wasted missiles it would just be harder to notice. much like older videos where every ship in a fleet fired 1 missile at every target leading to 1-6 KD
It's there no way to script these things? E.g. "if no hypersonic in the air, single tap, if hypersonics in the air, double tap"?
@@BoraHorzaGobuchul im sure there is but the amount of time going through source code isnt worth it. if they put out one video every two weeks then it may be feasible. but, on this timeframe of consistent novel content, it just isnt worth the time.
But they are mach 5/6 ish. Look at their speed in terminal velocity...4000 knots at sea level thats mach 6. You people just want to see US wipe out every enemy otherwise you whine
I’m really glad you guys think this is how a battle with our strike group will go. Hope you slept well.
Guessing China performed well?
@@Hhhh22222-w I would guess lol. XD
yeah but adding the hundreds of coastal chinese anti ship batteries into the combat wouldn't make it very interesting would it
@@lonurad1259
The Japanese, Taiwanese and South Korean anti-ship missiles, as well as the 5-1 ratio of supercarriers would render your point moot.
@@My_initials_are_O.G.cuz_I_am no it just reinforces my point that realistically there wouldn't be a battle like this anyway. Thanks for that
Great video Cap! I always appreciate a good F-35 video
J15 can likely carry 2xYJ12 when launched from type 003 catapult
Just for fun maybe two us carrier groups vs Russia and china…seeing as we are deploying 2 to the Middle East.
These naval battles are nice but unless the US smashes the opoonent everyone in the comments complains so the battles turn out to be like "let's do this battle and if the US doesn't wipe out the enemy we'll nerf the enemy".
F35's flying above a whole CSG without being shot and LRASM being almost impossible to intercept is just funny.
When the Americans lose people ask you to rig it😂
What did they do this time to rig the battle?
Cool little simulation to watch! Well put together for sure. I do wonder how accurate it actually is though
battle groups always have subs so why in your sims you do not them defend the carrier group ?
I'm not a tech guy by any means, so I'm just spit balling, but maybe the issue with AI threat assessment could be making them run a procedure for each target that they acquire by 'tagging' them with a number(1, 2, 3) 1s are the primary contact for a procedure, 2s are secondary contacts that get hit by the next cell(which would be a whole lot more code for individual missile cell and its assignment to a specific vessel, which order they fire, etc.) and 3s would be a number that excludes those particular craft from being added to the next firing sequence, while "0" could be put onto targets not yet added to a queue. So lets say three contacts pop up flying in a wedge. The lead craft would be the first contact, so "1." The next two would be "2," but both 1 and 2 are also tagged with "3," so that if more contacts come in, those first three targets, which are already queued, and being engaged, aren't attacked twice.
Ambitious idea as well would be to make a separate algorithm that uses data from the whole map and measures targets' flight path and current altitude to select the missile used.
Once again, no idea about software, coding, hardware, etc. so I wouldn't know how to do ANY of that, but its an idea
Edit: I spent 10 minutes typing this and didn't pause ;-;
Even if destroyed, the missile remnants can move at incredible speeds and damage ships
Are you suggesting that the shrapnel/debris would just continue to the target after being blasted out of the sky 😂
Also I dot get why HHQ10s weren't firing. they clearly had line of sight and their entire purpose is to defend against things like LRASMs, you can't possibly tell me LRASMs are invisible on IR when CWIS is shooting at them.
True, but at the same time im pretty sure that those missiles also utilise radar tracking aswell (as a result of a SARH) so if its searching using radar then it may not see it until its too late. Even so, i would expect the missile to be detected by radar shortly after it gets WVR of the ships.
@@rileymorrisroe6743 those missiles were definately seen by radar, the HQ9s were shooting at them but because of R min they couldn't hit them past a certain point. Thats why the HHQ10 exists.
@@hughmungus2760 I agree, (i got to about a third of the way throught the video and got so started scrolling though comments), and yeah the HHQ-10 exists, but my point is that the HHQ-10 isnt a soley IR guided missile. Which may have bought time for the LRASMs (but unlikely, i am just saying what may have happened to prevent their engagement in the sim).
@@rileymorrisroe6743 As far as Im aware, DCS doesn't allow dual seeker engagement, meaning that a single type of missile can only be either radar or IR and that can't be changed during the battle.
@@hughmungus2760 If the HHQ-10 is set to radar guided, then that means that its more possible for the LRASMs to stay off of the radar given the incredibly low altitude.
Why dosent the us have hypersonic in this video also ,we are working on 7 different ones right now 3 years from now we would have some also
Hopefully we can do more British vs insert nation here, need more love in general no fault to anyone ❤️