Siz! Same!!! “Tradition” shouldn’t be an excuse especially if that tradition was devised to be oppressive. And if last name’s are that important for the guy “romantically” then it’s not the woman’s prerogative to make a man out of him. It’s his views of “love and gesture” that are questionable. Is that how he defines love? Primitive. Right
@@sasacena-barruela3709 VERY TRUUUEEE HAHSHA Although I think we should give the traditionalists time to process this decision. Underdtanding lang naman na we refuse to be "owned" 💁
@@diannedepalubos6665 yeah but it took little to zero time for our ancestors to impose themselves through this manner. I don’t think traditionalists need time, they need education. 😉
Ang funny pa kasi we have come so far daw in gender roles but he submits himself to that. His arguments are too self-centered. “Nakaka uplift sa feeling ng lalake”. Like how about the woman??? Lol
Yung guy na nakabrown, puro emotions like love ang basis ng reasoning niya. What if baliktarin, what if sa kanya sabihin na, "kung mahal mo, bakit di mo hayaang i-keep nya yung last name?" If he answered no, then that means, hindi love ang ginagamit nya for reasoning.
@@jenniekimismyqueen4620 exactly, eh kung baliktarin naman ang situation, would he be willing to change HIS surname for-as he calls it- "sign of commitment"?
@@Kira-bj4xy it's more like a sign of a family for me than a sign of commitment because people who aren't married yet still have that commitment there, but it is in the law that the wife can use her maiden or husband's name (last name) in some documents
@@selwynbracamonte4220 that could also be it, and true, nakasaad naman talaga sa law na pwede gamitin ang maiden name. I guess its just the stigma around it, ang hirap kasi kapag iniimpose sayo base solely on the culture diba? Let's give women the choice and freewill.
To the guy that keeps insiting na "its a sign of commitment". Shouldn't it work both ways? Think of it this way, if she's willing to change her last name for you, shouldn't you be willing too? Ikaw na ang nag sabi "sign of commitment". So pag ayaw mo paltan yung last name mo, hindi ka commited? If your basis of a commited relationship is solely based on whether she wants to change her name for you, YOU are not ready for a commited relationship.
"Nakaka uplift ka sa feeling ng lalake" Lalake ako and i dont need a woman to take my surname to validate her feelings towards me. Her choosing me in marriage is enough of a validation.
THANK YOU! 👏🏼 as soon as he said that naisip ko agad “so you need validation?” 🙄 just such a shame that some guys are still stuck in that mindset and refuse to stop being narrow minded
@@pashonfroot basta sunud sunuran sa babae weak yan. Di kay dalhin ang asawa, pano yung apelido ng anak kanino isusunod? Alin ang gagawing middle name? Sino nagsuffer edi yung anak,
I didn’t changed mine, although my husband insists. He’d always tell me na changing my surname is parang sukatan ng love ko for him. My husband believes in the power of patriarchy pero I won’t let him push me over his ‘entitlement’. Ayun, I still had my maiden surname with me. One reason I didn’t change it kase ang hassle sa documents ahahah. Kidding aside, I just dont like the fact that he and his father tries to impose their superiority over me, measly because of a surname.
FYI: Under Article 370 of the Civil Code of the Philippines, it states that a married woman may use: Her maiden first name and surname and add her husband’s surname, or Her maiden first name and her husband’s surname, or Her husband’s full name, but prefixing a word indicating that she is wife, such as “Mrs.”
up! Just to add. The Civil Code of the Philippines, which is way older than those people in the video, recognizes that it is really not a REQUIREMENT to change your surname. Option lang po. May choices po ang mga babae. :)
Wow I've been thinking about this often as a woman approaching marriage-able age. I agree it should be a choice. Women who do take the last name of their husband are NOT inferior, however this is a remnant of a highly patriarchal past. In modern times, there is simply little to no necessity to take the man's last name. It is that simple. To the man who insists it is a romantic tradition that should not be challenged.... I challenge you with this. Why does this pressure unfairly fall on the woman? A man never has to face the choice of taking his wife's last name. If she chooses to keep her last name, why should her love for you be questioned? However, I appreciate Rec Create's choice to include his opinion as I do think it is commonly held.
@Neko Chan luh ma'am I'm man and i do not mind my future wife to retain her surname. damay na naman kaming lahat ng lalake sa isang comment of ego ni kuyang brown
@@mitziandres4768 I mean, yes we should respect everyone's opinion but there's no substance lmao if decades ago pwede pa arguments nya but today nah not really, he can do better. I hope he'll learn a thing or two after he reads the comments ahe
You know what's interesting to me? How a long-standing patriarchal tradition, with an oppressing past (women were then seen as properties of men), was disguised as something romantic. An act of love, a testament to commitment. Kaya 'pag 'di tayo nagre-reflect, at reasoning natin lagi is "yun yung nakasanayan", inevitable na makakaapak tayo ng ibang tao. So let's challenge these traditions by thinking about it deeply. Let's remember: that or anything being tradition doesn't necessarily make it right.
I am married to a foreigner and I did not change my last name. It’s more of an identity for me keeping my Filipino last name. I will be living in a different country in the near future and change my citizenship, but I like to think that every time I write my name I am reminded of where I come from.
"It's romantic." "Nakakauplift sa feeling ng lalaki." "I will wonder if committed talaga siya sa marriage." I can't be the only one annoyed with that guy.
You’re definitely not the only one. “It’s romantic” Uhm how? Besides, there’s other ways to show romance, no? “Nakakauplift sa feeling ng lalaki” So some of you guys that think like this need validation from women? But yet, at the same time, would think na “superior” kayong mga lalake if we did decide to take your last name? “I will wonder if committed talaga siya sa marriage” So kung ganito tayong lahat mag-isip, pano naman kaming mga babae? People won’t know if you’re married or not (obviously kung hinubad din yung ring) because you still use the same last name you’ve been using your entire life. So his argument is just dumb. We are NOT your property para sabihan na di kami committed if we don’t take your last name. Yun lang ba talaga sukatan ng commitment sayo? Bat pa umabot sa kasalan diba kung di mo nafeel committed si ate girl sayo? 🙄🙄 Kakainis! Sorry napahaba reply ko. Inis talaga ako sa mga sinasabi nya. Yes it’s his opinion but uhm.. it shouldn’t be the only one that matters. Women have a mind of their own and therefore, should have a voice too.
For the guy wearing brown, he keeps on saying na if you don't take the last name parang may doubt if committed ba si wife or something. But isn't actually marrying a person a commitment? It's a life long commitment dba? Wala lang. Skl
The only reason why I would see why people would change their last name is because it's cute and is a type of indication that they are a family now but whatever floats your boat
@@jheramienicolenavarro5443 Yes but it really up to them, I don't really care what my last name is I'm not gonna change as a person but whatever you want is important
@@jheramienicolenavarro5443 At oo nga pala nasa law Naman na pwede Naman gamitin Ng babae either maiden name or husband name. Di po sya requirement, the civil code that I said is older than most of us in this comment section.
Taking your husband’s last name is a western practice. Most countries here in the east (Korea, China, Japan, Indonesia, Malasyia.. etc), the wife doesn’t take their husband’s last name.
Kuya in the Uniqlo mocha shirt when he said "nakaka-uplift ng feeling ng lalake," and "doubting the girl's love for him when she doesn't change her last name to his" I'm like "Ghooooorlll????!! For reals? 2020 na!"
Not a problem. I don’t plan on getting married. Ha! (Date me. Huhu) Jk I’d hyphenate it. Like my dear future husband, I love you, but I worked my ass off to build a name for myself in this patriarchal dominated world. I want to be known as me and not someone’s wife. 😘
That guy wearing greenish brown shirt claiming that we've come so far when it comes to gender roles, but insist that the woman should always change their last names to favor the husband as proof of their love. Dude- if changing your last name is how you validate love and romance, then why don't you change your last name? Bakit kailangan na yung wife yung magpapalit? Why is it that men always want women to do things for them, just because of their fragile ego? Let's accept that women and men are equal. Both parties can decide on what they want to do, and each party should fully accept whatever the outcome may be. Don't use TRADITION as your excuse, cause tradition was built at a time when women are considered lower than men.
"At least hyphen my surname to show that we are equal." Uhm, NO. Paano naging equal yun? I-hyphen din ba ng husbands ang surname ng wives nila? Pfsh. Privileged men! Walang batas na nagdidikta sa babae na magpalit ng pangalan. They could, but they're not required to do so. Kesehoda Atty., Dra., bigtime career woman ka or you plan on being a housewife, the choice of surname is still yours to make.
Getting the surname of your husband doesn't mean of love towards one another. Ang daming nag-adopt ng ganitong tradition pero ending, they still broke up. It's matter of choice and if you love someone else that don't want to adopt this kind of practice then respect it wholeheartedly. And, I must say, that's is love.
sa apelyido lang, kekwestyunin mo na kung committed ba sa'yo asawa mo? what kind of answer is that? si kuyang nakabrown, puro intuition, wala man lang reasoning.
To the guy in the beige/green tshirt, I see your point of view. However, if changing a woman's last name is proof of love and commitment, would YOU change your last name to your wife's? And if you choose not to, does that mean you don't love them? If love and commitment are your only arguments, I hope you remember that a relationship is a TEAM effort ❤️
Luh bat kaming mga babae mag aadjust? Why is it that women are succumbed to this tradition while men aren't? And why is the justification always "to show your commitment"? Shouldn't it go both ways? Have we not progressed from this mindset already? Sige I'll change my last name to yours, pero willing ka ba to take MY name?
For the brown shirt guy. It seems like all matters for him is yung feelings nilang mga lalake. All of his opinions sounds like it will make them look superior kapag kinuha ng babae yung surname nila.. not to mention na ang basihan niya ng love and commitment is kapag kinuha na nung girl yung surname nila. Feeling niya romantic yon 😏🚫
I just don't get it why men find it as a gesture of romance when women change their last name for them. I mean men, maybe, should change their surnames or hyphenate, at least, after getting married so that women would get it as a gesture of their romance, also.
“Do you think women who choose to keep their last name are self-centered?” I mean, would you ask the men the same question?😂 of course not. Kasi women are expected to compromise. Kay kuyang naka brown, progress cannot be achieved if we keep doing things the same way just because “that’s how it is and always have been”. It’s nice that you think it’s a romantic gesture or to prove someone’s commitment to you, but if that’s how you see it, then it shouldn’t be too much to ask for you to take your wife’s name. After all, it’s a romantic gesture/proof of commitment.
Good talk. I remember talking to my wife before our wedding saying what if I just took her last name instead of her taking mine but she immediately shut down the idea 😄. Women can use whatever surname they want after marriage not a big deal the fact that they chose to marry us is more than enough
I got married when I was 23 this was back in 2011. I tried not to change my last name pero it gave me issues lalo na nung naguupdate ako ng status from single to married sa mga government agencies like sss etc, this was in the middle of moving companies so in the end sumuko na lang ako keysa mahassle pa pinabago ko na rin after a year. The only thing that remains is my signature I still use my maiden name and my old signature....
I think they should have gotten an equal number of interviewees from both sexes and opinions. So for example, 1 woman na yes, 1 woman na no, 1 man na yes, and one man na no. I'm not sure lang, but I assume the goal is to hear different opinions from different people so that the audience can decide. The video itself is already unfair.
I met some families where the mom kept their maiden sn and only the kids get to keep their father's sn. In some cases, the children get to choose when they are old enough
Kristen (girl in white) and Miguel (guy in black) makes a great couple. Having almost same point of views in life despite having a few years age gap it's cool to see how mature she thinks about life. (You can both watch them on Rec•Create Couples with Age Gap video btw) and the guy that's been hit mostly on the comment section is Harvey Unso you can also watch his other Rec•Create video Almost Lovers
Para kay Kuyang naka-brown shirt, tandaan mo ang Tradition hindi static! Nagbabago ito ayon sa pakinabang nito sa tao. At kung may makitang silang naapakan ang karapatang pantao, ano pa ang silbi na ituloy ang tradisyon? Ang akin lang hindi mo puedeng i-counterargument ang pagmamahalan to justify your claim.
For me lang ha! Changing their name is an important and official symbol of the commitment they've made to each other. However, Civil Code of the Philippines, Title XIII, Article 370 paragraph 1. If they don't want to replace to....
If I ever got married, I'd ask my partner to take my name :P Just to see if he'd go for it. If he's willing, then we do it. Pero I imagine it will be more of a hyphen situation, though I'd want him to hyphenate my name as well as vice versa.
Hi, Rec•Create team! I know this is a very sensitive topic, but can you guys interview a DDS and Dilawan? Or even just the people who are apolitical and political. Thank you! xoxo
kaya lang if you have kids you're gonna be the only one with a different surname. why not both husband and wife combine-hyphenate and carry both surnames?
The moment I heard "tradition", I was like... "That's not a strong point for a start". I just hope that the guy with the lighter colored shirt finds a partner that would make him change his mind or pananaw sa buhay.
Next topic? How about yung sa Vasectomy and tubal ligation. I mean, the debate kung sino ba ang dapat mag adjust and go under a surgery para di na sila magka anak.
The wife is not obliged naman to use the husband's last name. Same sa magiging anak nila the child can also choose to use either their mother or father's last name. Sadyang nasanay lang sa nakaugalian/tradition tayong mga pilipino. At hindi rin kasi lahat alam ito. Ang thinking nila matic na kapag ikinasal ka magiging apelyido mo na e yung sa husband mo.
I never change my name after I married my husband. Wala naman Sa batas. It’s a choice And I just don’t choose But I often get a ‘look’ People can be judgemental about it But it’s liberating to me Important both of you are confident with your marriage
Hunny, she married you di pa ba sapat na patunay na love ka niya ?Ang mahal kaya ng annulment sa Pinas. One reason kung bakit pipiliin ng woman na hindi magpalit ng surname upon marriage is yung hassle sa pagpapalit ng Documents . Why do you need to go through the hassle when you can keep your maiden name?It's not like magugunaw ang mundo pag hindi siya nagpalit ng surname. As husband, gugustuhin mo ba na makita yung wife mo na mahirapan just because you want her to carry your name? The point is a woman should be given a choice on whether to use her maiden name, change her surname or to hyphenate her husband's surname. Dapat hindi yan pinipilit
It's identity eh it's about who you want be. And if you want to be who you want to be, that doesn't make you a self centered person. We get to keep our last names eh. Why can't women? Diba?
I ddoubt mo yung love ng babae just because of her being her own person? That’s because of the many years of this social construct being forced down upon us. Thanks to the dude in black for telling us about historical context but the dude in brown. Toxic masculinity everywhere
@@ruthchelleliclic5863 dibaaaa hnggg using tradition as a shield does not make it better for his case. Heto pa, hindi niya alam yung function ng ganyang tradition. Sobrang oppressive. Is he uneducated or soemthing?
To add: YUNG MGA LAKAKE NGA HINDI NAGCCHANGE NG LAST NAME DINDOUBT BA LOVE NIYO? IF ANYTHING IT’S MORE ROOM FOR CHEATING. HAYST WE HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO PA.
Ever since na nagkaroon ako ng professor na may surname na hypenated, dun ako namulat. Dati sabi ko ayaw ko palitan surname ko pero nagsettle na ako sa hypenated. My name is my identity. Kung magpapakasal man ako, ayokong mawala yung identity ko. I chose hypenated kasi it can somehow symbolize yung pag-accept ko sa kanya sa buhay ko. I think, depende to sa tao. Di na pwede ipilit sa lahat. Tama yung guy na naka black. Just let women decide.
That one dude keeps on bringing up love in this matter, it pissed me off a little. 'Pag hindi nagpalit ng surname, hindi na mahal or less yung pagmamahal? Let women decide on what they want to do. We are our own property.
I already told my gf the time we get married she can opt not to change her surname or have a "hyphenated" surname. Not really an issue for me. It's her identity, her life, her choice.
Sa akin, di siya big deal. Tignan niyo sa mga spanish at portuguese speaking countries, kept ang apelyido ni girl kahit kasal. Pero parehas gagamitin ng anak yung apelyido ng mom and dad. Though, paperworks wise, mahirap sa Pinas magkaiba ng apelyido ang mag-asawa. Like sa anak for proof of relationship, lagi dapat bitbit ni mother yung marriage certificate and birth certificate ng mga anak para proof na anak niya yung mga bata. Tapos yung friend ni mama, may hotel na need ata iconfirm na mag-asawa yung friend ni mama at yung kasama niya. Since magkaiba sila ng surname, kailangan pang may dalang marriage contract. Ito yung di alam nung mga tao na caveat if the women chose not to use her husband's surname.
I personally believe that women should have the choice, in fact the law states that, so win-win, but I just want to say that taking your husband's last name doesn't make you less of a person..
Buong akala ko nga matic na agad, pag kinasal na ang babae, mandatory na i-apply. Maraming hindi alam na pwede i-keep yung last name ng babae nung single siya dahil nakasanayan. What if kaya marami nakaka-alam na pwede nila i-keep? I wonder kung anong sasabihin ng mga older generations natin or pov nila dito.
Skl. I just got married here in AUSTRALIA and here’s what the LAW says here about changing women’s surname after marriage. The law appears gender neutral as a husband can choose to take his wife's surname, although in practice 96% of women in Japan choose to take the surname of their husband. In Australia, a person who marries may choose to take his/her spouse's surname. This is not, however, a legal requirement. So in short, PWEDENG GAMITIN NI HUSBAND ANG SURNAME NI WIFE ! Ganito yung true love. Walang superiority cause both are equals 😉☺️
"Nakaka-uplift sa feelings ng mga lalaki." Actually, our culture has historically evolved towards men's ego. Why should marriage be always about men? If it's a sign of love towards EACH OTHER, then can men use the hyphenated surnames of their wives? Kung towards each other, bakit babae lang maga-adjust?
I view it as keeping the “legacy” of the family... it’s just in the Philippines it’s gender based... unlike in Japan where it’s more of whose family name is more influential.
i think that guy in beige shirt was raised in a family wherein guys were pressured, especially by their father to take "honor" of their surname. kaya nga rin kadalasan galit ang mga ama sa mga anak na bakla dahil mawalang "magdadala" ng kanilang apelyido lalo na kung unico hijo. we should break this so called "tradition", kasi in reality, its just social construct. let your wife decide, and your role as a husband should be empowering her decision.
“Nakaka-uplift ka sa feeling ng lalake...”
it is not always about men. It should be a choice for women.
Exactly
preach
Changing your last name SHOULD NEVER be the basis of commitment.
im cringing every time the guy in brown mentions love/commitment as an excuse to validate his masculinity
same haha
True!
same....
Trueee!!! Agree. Not just love/commitment but also using "tradition" as an excuse.
true hahahaha
"We have come so far in terms of gender roles."
Exactly. Let women speak up for themselves. 🤷
Siz! Same!!! “Tradition” shouldn’t be an excuse especially if that tradition was devised to be oppressive. And if last name’s are that important for the guy “romantically” then it’s not the woman’s prerogative to make a man out of him. It’s his views of “love and gesture” that are questionable. Is that how he defines love? Primitive. Right
@@sasacena-barruela3709 VERY TRUUUEEE HAHSHA
Although I think we should give the traditionalists time to process this decision. Underdtanding lang naman na we refuse to be "owned" 💁
@@diannedepalubos6665 yeah but it took little to zero time for our ancestors to impose themselves through this manner. I don’t think traditionalists need time, they need education. 😉
Ang funny pa kasi we have come so far daw in gender roles but he submits himself to that. His arguments are too self-centered. “Nakaka uplift sa feeling ng lalake”. Like how about the woman??? Lol
Yung guy na nakabrown, puro emotions like love ang basis ng reasoning niya.
What if baliktarin, what if sa kanya sabihin na, "kung mahal mo, bakit di mo hayaang i-keep nya yung last name?"
If he answered no, then that means, hindi love ang ginagamit nya for reasoning.
Well opinion nya yun and I guess wala namang mali sa mga sinabi nya since lahat tayo may freedom of speech
@@mrcntno_ mali kung kinocontradict niya mismo yung argument niya. If its about love nga you should leave the choice to your spouse wag ipilit.
"Nakaka-uplift sa feeling ng lalaki..."
Oh, the fragile male ego.
lol he’s the type of person that would make pilit his wife to change her last name to his para hindi masaktan yung ego nya
@@jenniekimismyqueen4620 exactly, eh kung baliktarin naman ang situation, would he be willing to change HIS surname for-as he calls it- "sign of commitment"?
Louder!!!
@@Kira-bj4xy it's more like a sign of a family for me than a sign of commitment because people who aren't married yet still have that commitment there, but it is in the law that the wife can use her maiden or husband's name (last name) in some documents
@@selwynbracamonte4220 that could also be it, and true, nakasaad naman talaga sa law na pwede gamitin ang maiden name. I guess its just the stigma around it, ang hirap kasi kapag iniimpose sayo base solely on the culture diba? Let's give women the choice and freewill.
The guy in black and the guy in brown is the difference between a Man and a Boy. Kitang kita ang maturity level eh.
"If a woman chooses to keep her last name, is she self-centered?" Eh pucha bakit sa lalaki walang ganyang tanong?
Tangek, di naman kasi prevalent yung case na nirequire or ginusto ng babae na gamitin dapat nung husband nya ang apelyido nya.
HAHHAHAH
To the guy that keeps insiting na "its a sign of commitment". Shouldn't it work both ways? Think of it this way, if she's willing to change her last name for you, shouldn't you be willing too? Ikaw na ang nag sabi "sign of commitment". So pag ayaw mo paltan yung last name mo, hindi ka commited? If your basis of a commited relationship is solely based on whether she wants to change her name for you, YOU are not ready for a commited relationship.
siguro ego lang nya yun as a guy na umiimik idk parang self entitlement ang dating nya kasi
"Nakaka uplift ka sa feeling ng lalake"
Lalake ako and i dont need a woman to take my surname to validate her feelings towards me. Her choosing me in marriage is enough of a validation.
THANK YOU! 👏🏼 as soon as he said that naisip ko agad “so you need validation?” 🙄 just such a shame that some guys are still stuck in that mindset and refuse to stop being narrow minded
Syempre weak man ka. Sunud sunuran ka sa babae.
@@rakenrol5414 so saan dun banda sa comment nya ang nag imply na weak sya? O nag assume ka lang?
@@pashonfroot pag di mo mapasunod ang asawa mong babae weak ka.
@@pashonfroot basta sunud sunuran sa babae weak yan. Di kay dalhin ang asawa, pano yung apelido ng anak kanino isusunod? Alin ang gagawing middle name? Sino nagsuffer edi yung anak,
I didn’t changed mine, although my husband insists. He’d always tell me na changing my surname is parang sukatan ng love ko for him. My husband believes in the power of patriarchy pero I won’t let him push me over his ‘entitlement’. Ayun, I still had my maiden surname with me. One reason I didn’t change it kase ang hassle sa documents ahahah. Kidding aside, I just dont like the fact that he and his father tries to impose their superiority over me, measly because of a surname.
kween behaviour
u drpped u crown queen
if ur husband believes in the power of patriarchy, then whyd u marry him 😩😩
Why marry him if he doesn't think you're an equal without compensating for taking his name?
Curious po. How about your child po, sayo o kanya?
FYI: Under Article 370 of the Civil Code of the Philippines, it states that a married woman may use: Her maiden first name and surname and add her husband’s surname, or Her maiden first name and her husband’s surname, or Her husband’s full name, but prefixing a word indicating that she is wife, such as “Mrs.”
up! Just to add. The Civil Code of the Philippines, which is way older than those people in the video, recognizes that it is really not a REQUIREMENT to change your surname. Option lang po. May choices po ang mga babae. :)
THIS
Finally, nakita ko na rin ang hinahanap ko.
Found you again. Heto talaga basis ko sa argument na to.
Wow I've been thinking about this often as a woman approaching marriage-able age. I agree it should be a choice. Women who do take the last name of their husband are NOT inferior, however this is a remnant of a highly patriarchal past. In modern times, there is simply little to no necessity to take the man's last name. It is that simple. To the man who insists it is a romantic tradition that should not be challenged.... I challenge you with this. Why does this pressure unfairly fall on the woman? A man never has to face the choice of taking his wife's last name. If she chooses to keep her last name, why should her love for you be questioned? However, I appreciate Rec Create's choice to include his opinion as I do think it is commonly held.
Parang may pagka-ego si kuya
@@elisedanica or baka insecure ;)
@Neko Chan luh ma'am I'm man and i do not mind my future wife to retain her surname. damay na naman kaming lahat ng lalake sa isang comment of ego ni kuyang brown
Thought for the guys- if you think changing her last name is a sign of love and commitment, are you willing to do the same?
Ang Paraluman TOTOO. tradition pa ang gusto
The Japanese actually do this. Some men marry into the women's families and changes their last name. I wouldn't be bothered actually.
@@miguelmonzones8048 Pretty much
Sure because it sounds cute and is like a sign that we're a family now I guess
The guy in beige/brown shirt masyadong emotional and all he talks about is love. The subject itself is way beyond love dude! 😬
Dba nkklk. Ang sakit sa ears pakinggan arguments nya 🙄
@@mitziandres4768 I mean, yes we should respect everyone's opinion but there's no substance lmao if decades ago pwede pa arguments nya but today nah not really, he can do better. I hope he'll learn a thing or two after he reads the comments ahe
@@sjzz1967 “bakit niya kakalabanin yung tradition, parang meron siyang gustong patunayan” hmmmm
That's his opinion about it. I respect that. At least women have the option to either take the name of the husband or not.
agree
Traditionalist vs Liberals. Haha. This was a fun conversation. For the men out there, kung kayo ang pagpapalit ng surname nyo. Would you do it? Hehe
Yes.
If maganda last name why not? Hahaha
Kung asawa ko anak nila Ayala or Henry Sy why not? Lol
Why not?
Y not?
You know what's interesting to me? How a long-standing patriarchal tradition, with an oppressing past (women were then seen as properties of men), was disguised as something romantic. An act of love, a testament to commitment.
Kaya 'pag 'di tayo nagre-reflect, at reasoning natin lagi is "yun yung nakasanayan", inevitable na makakaapak tayo ng ibang tao. So let's challenge these traditions by thinking about it deeply.
Let's remember: that or anything being tradition doesn't necessarily make it right.
luv!!!
that "ba't mo kakalabanin yung tradisyon" is soooooo wHAT???
Tradition doesn't mean it's the right thing...
I am married to a foreigner and I did not change my last name. It’s more of an identity for me keeping my Filipino last name. I will be living in a different country in the near future and change my citizenship, but I like to think that every time I write my name I am reminded of where I come from.
"It's romantic."
"Nakakauplift sa feeling ng lalaki."
"I will wonder if committed talaga siya sa marriage."
I can't be the only one annoyed with that guy.
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His internal romanticizing standards set by patriarchy talaga is showing
samedt
You’re definitely not the only one.
“It’s romantic”
Uhm how? Besides, there’s other ways to show romance, no?
“Nakakauplift sa feeling ng lalaki”
So some of you guys that think like this need validation from women? But yet, at the same time, would think na “superior” kayong mga lalake if we did decide to take your last name?
“I will wonder if committed talaga siya sa marriage”
So kung ganito tayong lahat mag-isip, pano naman kaming mga babae? People won’t know if you’re married or not (obviously kung hinubad din yung ring) because you still use the same last name you’ve been using your entire life. So his argument is just dumb. We are NOT your property para sabihan na di kami committed if we don’t take your last name. Yun lang ba talaga sukatan ng commitment sayo? Bat pa umabot sa kasalan diba kung di mo nafeel committed si ate girl sayo? 🙄🙄
Kakainis! Sorry napahaba reply ko. Inis talaga ako sa mga sinasabi nya. Yes it’s his opinion but uhm.. it shouldn’t be the only one that matters. Women have a mind of their own and therefore, should have a voice too.
I skip his parts 🤮
For the guy wearing brown, he keeps on saying na if you don't take the last name parang may doubt if committed ba si wife or something. But isn't actually marrying a person a commitment? It's a life long commitment dba? Wala lang. Skl
The only reason why I would see why people would change their last name is because it's cute and is a type of indication that they are a family now but whatever floats your boat
@@selwynbracamonte4220 it doesn't make them less of a family when the woman won't take the man's surname naman dba? :)
@@jheramienicolenavarro5443 Yes but it really up to them, I don't really care what my last name is I'm not gonna change as a person but whatever you want is important
@@selwynbracamonte4220 point taken. :)
@@jheramienicolenavarro5443 At oo nga pala nasa law Naman na pwede Naman gamitin Ng babae either maiden name or husband name. Di po sya requirement, the civil code that I said is older than most of us in this comment section.
Taking your husband’s last name is a western practice. Most countries here in the east (Korea, China, Japan, Indonesia, Malasyia.. etc), the wife doesn’t take their husband’s last name.
Precisely, its a western thing
Kuya in the Uniqlo mocha shirt when he said "nakaka-uplift ng feeling ng lalake," and "doubting the girl's love for him when she doesn't change her last name to his" I'm like "Ghooooorlll????!! For reals? 2020 na!"
Let people decide. The norm should be allowing people to decide without being judged.
Not a problem. I don’t plan on getting married. Ha! (Date me. Huhu) Jk
I’d hyphenate it. Like my dear future husband, I love you, but I worked my ass off to build a name for myself in this patriarchal dominated world. I want to be known as me and not someone’s wife. 😘
"I want to be known as me and not someone's wife" PERIODT
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That guy wearing greenish brown shirt claiming that we've come so far when it comes to gender roles, but insist that the woman should always change their last names to favor the husband as proof of their love. Dude- if changing your last name is how you validate love and romance, then why don't you change your last name? Bakit kailangan na yung wife yung magpapalit? Why is it that men always want women to do things for them, just because of their fragile ego? Let's accept that women and men are equal. Both parties can decide on what they want to do, and each party should fully accept whatever the outcome may be. Don't use TRADITION as your excuse, cause tradition was built at a time when women are considered lower than men.
"At least hyphen my surname to show that we are equal." Uhm, NO. Paano naging equal yun? I-hyphen din ba ng husbands ang surname ng wives nila? Pfsh. Privileged men!
Walang batas na nagdidikta sa babae na magpalit ng pangalan. They could, but they're not required to do so. Kesehoda Atty., Dra., bigtime career woman ka or you plan on being a housewife, the choice of surname is still yours to make.
Nice topic. Thank you Rec.create team. Suggestion, next naman is yung mga married women who didn't change their last names. With and without kids 😁
yes yes pls
3:44 "nakaka-uplift ka sa feeling ng lalaki"
It's not always about men and that is not romantic as you think. 😣
It’s about women’s choice.
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Getting the surname of your husband doesn't mean of love towards one another. Ang daming nag-adopt ng ganitong tradition pero ending, they still broke up. It's matter of choice and if you love someone else that don't want to adopt this kind of practice then respect it wholeheartedly. And, I must say, that's is love.
gurl, if your love is based on your partner changing her last name for u, maybe you should question if it's love
sa apelyido lang, kekwestyunin mo na kung committed ba sa'yo asawa mo? what kind of answer is that? si kuyang nakabrown, puro intuition, wala man lang reasoning.
I hope the guy in the beige shirt stays single. Char.
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To the guy in the beige/green tshirt, I see your point of view. However, if changing a woman's last name is proof of love and commitment, would YOU change your last name to your wife's? And if you choose not to, does that mean you don't love them?
If love and commitment are your only arguments, I hope you remember that a relationship is a TEAM effort ❤️
Luh bat kaming mga babae mag aadjust? Why is it that women are succumbed to this tradition while men aren't? And why is the justification always "to show your commitment"? Shouldn't it go both ways? Have we not progressed from this mindset already?
Sige I'll change my last name to yours, pero willing ka ba to take MY name?
For the brown shirt guy. It seems like all matters for him is yung feelings nilang mga lalake. All of his opinions sounds like it will make them look superior kapag kinuha ng babae yung surname nila.. not to mention na ang basihan niya ng love and commitment is kapag kinuha na nung girl yung surname nila.
Feeling niya romantic yon 😏🚫
im guessing thats just his ego talking..
I just got married 2 weeks ago and yes I took my husband’s last name hehe, hassle nga lang mag update ng government IDs and documents 😅
I would like if they add this question,
"Are men willing to change their lastname to their wife's?", para maiba naman.
I just don't get it why men find it as a gesture of romance when women change their last name for them. I mean men, maybe, should change their surnames or hyphenate, at least, after getting married so that women would get it as a gesture of their romance, also.
i think women shouldnt really change their surname. i mean, what is it that men would lose if women choose not to change it? diba wala naman.
Sorry, pero ang BS talaga nung reasoning na just because love mo yung tao, it means na need mo palitan yung surname mo. Hahahaha ang funny.
“Do you think women who choose to keep their last name are self-centered?”
I mean, would you ask the men the same question?😂 of course not. Kasi women are expected to compromise.
Kay kuyang naka brown, progress cannot be achieved if we keep doing things the same way just because “that’s how it is and always have been”. It’s nice that you think it’s a romantic gesture or to prove someone’s commitment to you, but if that’s how you see it, then it shouldn’t be too much to ask for you to take your wife’s name. After all, it’s a romantic gesture/proof of commitment.
Good talk. I remember talking to my wife before our wedding saying what if I just took her last name instead of her taking mine but she immediately shut down the idea 😄. Women can use whatever surname they want after marriage not a big deal the fact that they chose to marry us is more than enough
Tho d ako agree sa pananaw ng lalaking naka-brown, I appreciate na sinama sya sa vid para makakuha rin ng opposing argument
I got married when I was 23 this was back in 2011. I tried not to change my last name pero it gave me issues lalo na nung naguupdate ako ng status from single to married sa mga government agencies like sss etc, this was in the middle of moving companies so in the end sumuko na lang ako keysa mahassle pa pinabago ko na rin after a year. The only thing that remains is my signature I still use my maiden name and my old signature....
Sad reality is that the patriarchy thing still persists up to this day in our country
I think they should have gotten an equal number of interviewees from both sexes and opinions. So for example, 1 woman na yes, 1 woman na no, 1 man na yes, and one man na no. I'm not sure lang, but I assume the goal is to hear different opinions from different people so that the audience can decide. The video itself is already unfair.
I met some families where the mom kept their maiden sn and only the kids get to keep their father's sn. In some cases, the children get to choose when they are old enough
Kristen (girl in white) and Miguel (guy in black) makes a great couple. Having almost same point of views in life despite having a few years age gap it's cool to see how mature she thinks about life.
(You can both watch them on Rec•Create Couples with Age Gap video btw) and the guy that's been hit mostly on the comment section is Harvey Unso you can also watch his other Rec•Create video Almost Lovers
Hoy totoo to! Out of all the couple from that segment, sila yung pinaka nagustuhan ko lol
Para kay Kuyang naka-brown shirt, tandaan mo ang Tradition hindi static! Nagbabago ito ayon sa pakinabang nito sa tao. At kung may makitang silang naapakan ang karapatang pantao, ano pa ang silbi na ituloy ang tradisyon? Ang akin lang hindi mo puedeng i-counterargument ang pagmamahalan to justify your claim.
as a non binary biologically living life-form "you can do whatever you want" what's more important is when will they allow numbers on names
I wouldn't wanna change my last name but I think the only issue would be under what last name our child would be 🤔
Maybe this should be discussed before getting into marriage
Definitely, imagine getting married to someone with the mindset of the brown shirt guy. A big turn off.
For me lang ha! Changing their name is an important and official symbol of the commitment they've made to each other. However, Civil Code of the Philippines, Title XIII, Article 370 paragraph 1. If they don't want to replace to....
If I ever got married, I'd ask my partner to take my name :P Just to see if he'd go for it. If he's willing, then we do it. Pero I imagine it will be more of a hyphen situation, though I'd want him to hyphenate my name as well as vice versa.
But that kind of husband is a weak man, probably you won't be attracted to him in the first place 🤔 🙄
props for the dude in black tho,,,,ur amazing✨
Hi, Rec•Create team! I know this is a very sensitive topic, but can you guys interview a DDS and Dilawan? Or even just the people who are apolitical and political. Thank you! xoxo
Oo nga pati narin NPA at PRIDAM PAYTER tapos ang topic nila kung anu pinag lalaban at goal ng grupo nila XO XO XO
Please!!!!!
Pero dapat parang sa soco, iyong nakatago identity to prevent cyber attacks 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
kaya lang if you have kids you're gonna be the only one with a different surname. why not both husband and wife combine-hyphenate and carry both surnames?
No for me. It represents my individuality.
The moment I heard "tradition", I was like... "That's not a strong point for a start".
I just hope that the guy with the lighter colored shirt finds a partner that would make him change his mind or pananaw sa buhay.
Yes modern times na po. Sometimes, girls na rin po ang nagpopropose at bumibili ng engagement ring!
Next topic? How about yung sa Vasectomy and tubal ligation. I mean, the debate kung sino ba ang dapat mag adjust and go under a surgery para di na sila magka anak.
dont use love/emotions to justify bigotry. just say your ego is fragile and go. ✨
Just a thought, why would women change their last names to their husband's when in fact hindi naman nila ito kamag-anak?
Sa dugo hindi, pero magiging kamag anak mo na sya sa batas
Why not?
The wife is not obliged naman to use the husband's last name. Same sa magiging anak nila the child can also choose to use either their mother or father's last name. Sadyang nasanay lang sa nakaugalian/tradition tayong mga pilipino. At hindi rin kasi lahat alam ito. Ang thinking nila matic na kapag ikinasal ka magiging apelyido mo na e yung sa husband mo.
I mean sure i would to keep it in traditional way but if she insist then i’ll just have to accept it with full respect..
To have the man's last name is a tradition, yes that is true. But it is a tradition rooted from patriarchy
I never change my name after I married my husband.
Wala naman Sa batas. It’s a choice
And I just don’t choose
But I often get a ‘look’
People can be judgemental about it
But it’s liberating to me
Important both of you are confident with your marriage
Hunny, she married you di pa ba sapat na patunay na love ka niya ?Ang mahal kaya ng annulment sa Pinas.
One reason kung bakit pipiliin ng woman na hindi magpalit ng surname upon marriage is yung hassle sa pagpapalit ng Documents . Why do you need to go through the hassle when you can keep your maiden name?It's not like magugunaw ang mundo pag hindi siya nagpalit ng surname. As husband, gugustuhin mo ba na makita yung wife mo na mahirapan just because you want her to carry your name?
The point is a woman should be given a choice on whether to use her maiden name, change her surname or to hyphenate her husband's surname. Dapat hindi yan pinipilit
It's identity eh it's about who you want be. And if you want to be who you want to be, that doesn't make you a self centered person. We get to keep our last names eh. Why can't women? Diba?
napaka narrow minded naman ni kuya haha please open your mind more :)
I ddoubt mo yung love ng babae just because of her being her own person? That’s because of the many years of this social construct being forced down upon us. Thanks to the dude in black for telling us about historical context but the dude in brown. Toxic masculinity everywhere
"Parang may gusto siyang patunayan" - Toxic masculinity at its finest
@@ruthchelleliclic5863 dibaaaa hnggg using tradition as a shield does not make it better for his case. Heto pa, hindi niya alam yung function ng ganyang tradition. Sobrang oppressive. Is he uneducated or soemthing?
To add: YUNG MGA LAKAKE NGA HINDI NAGCCHANGE NG LAST NAME DINDOUBT BA LOVE NIYO? IF ANYTHING IT’S MORE ROOM FOR CHEATING. HAYST WE HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO PA.
I don’t even wanna hear that guy’s views on LGBTQIA+ rights and same-sex marriages.
kuyang nakabrown na may hikaw.
umay sayo.
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to the guy in beige since you keep talking about love then you should be the one to change your last name
I’m just waiting for ReCreate to invite me. Hahaha
Ever since na nagkaroon ako ng professor na may surname na hypenated, dun ako namulat. Dati sabi ko ayaw ko palitan surname ko pero nagsettle na ako sa hypenated. My name is my identity. Kung magpapakasal man ako, ayokong mawala yung identity ko. I chose hypenated kasi it can somehow symbolize yung pag-accept ko sa kanya sa buhay ko. I think, depende to sa tao. Di na pwede ipilit sa lahat. Tama yung guy na naka black. Just let women decide.
That one dude keeps on bringing up love in this matter, it pissed me off a little. 'Pag hindi nagpalit ng surname, hindi na mahal or less yung pagmamahal? Let women decide on what they want to do.
We are our own property.
I already told my gf the time we get married she can opt not to change her surname or have a "hyphenated" surname. Not really an issue for me. It's her identity, her life, her choice.
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Sa akin, di siya big deal. Tignan niyo sa mga spanish at portuguese speaking countries, kept ang apelyido ni girl kahit kasal. Pero parehas gagamitin ng anak yung apelyido ng mom and dad.
Though, paperworks wise, mahirap sa Pinas magkaiba ng apelyido ang mag-asawa. Like sa anak for proof of relationship, lagi dapat bitbit ni mother yung marriage certificate and birth certificate ng mga anak para proof na anak niya yung mga bata. Tapos yung friend ni mama, may hotel na need ata iconfirm na mag-asawa yung friend ni mama at yung kasama niya. Since magkaiba sila ng surname, kailangan pang may dalang marriage contract. Ito yung di alam nung mga tao na caveat if the women chose not to use her husband's surname.
Ang babaw naman nung last name ang sign of commitment niya.
I personally believe that women should have the choice, in fact the law states that, so win-win, but I just want to say that taking your husband's last name doesn't make you less of a person..
Buong akala ko nga matic na agad, pag kinasal na ang babae, mandatory na i-apply. Maraming hindi alam na pwede i-keep yung last name ng babae nung single siya dahil nakasanayan. What if kaya marami nakaka-alam na pwede nila i-keep? I wonder kung anong sasabihin ng mga older generations natin or pov nila dito.
Skl.
I just got married here in AUSTRALIA and here’s what the LAW says here about changing women’s surname after marriage.
The law appears gender neutral as a husband can choose to take his wife's surname, although in practice 96% of women in Japan choose to take the surname of their husband. In Australia, a person who marries may choose to take his/her spouse's surname. This is not, however, a legal requirement.
So in short, PWEDENG GAMITIN NI HUSBAND ANG SURNAME NI WIFE !
Ganito yung true love. Walang superiority cause both are equals 😉☺️
1:41-1:54 yes
The guy in black shirt, i stan
"Nakaka-uplift sa feelings ng mga lalaki." Actually, our culture has historically evolved towards men's ego. Why should marriage be always about men?
If it's a sign of love towards EACH OTHER, then can men use the hyphenated surnames of their wives? Kung towards each other, bakit babae lang maga-adjust?
Well, actually, pwedeng gamitin naman talaga ng isang babae ung last name pa rin nila even after marriage.
May mga women nagpalit ng surname upon marriage pero ended up cheating. Soooo hindi talaga basehan yung pagpapalit ng surname
it's a lot more confusing if you're Filipino Christian and get married here in malaysia
It's just a name. Why would you base your relationship on her getting your last name?
Actually, taking your husband’s last name is not a norm in the Asia. Only in the Philippines and maybe some countries.
Daming debate tanggalin nlng apelyido back to the good old days HAHAHA
Okay, why don't both spouses create a new family name? Hahahaha. Kidding aside, I'd like to do that with my husband someday, if it's possible.
I view it as keeping the “legacy” of the family... it’s just in the Philippines it’s gender based... unlike in Japan where it’s more of whose family name is more influential.
Isa to sa mga dahilan kung bakit kami nagbreak e hahahayssss
Yeah thats a tradition and we have law na its okay if the woman wont change her last name after the marriage.
I think im going to find someone who has the same surname as mine. 🤣
Mendoza anyone charot🤣
That one dude's fragile masculinity tho
i think that guy in beige shirt was raised in a family wherein guys were pressured, especially by their father to take "honor" of their surname. kaya nga rin kadalasan galit ang mga ama sa mga anak na bakla dahil mawalang "magdadala" ng kanilang apelyido lalo na kung unico hijo. we should break this so called "tradition", kasi in reality, its just social construct. let your wife decide, and your role as a husband should be empowering her decision.
The Civil Code doesn't required to.