Michael Penix Jr. pick sets 'weird vibe' for Kirk Cousins, Falcons | Pro Football Talk | NFL on NBC
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- Опубликовано: 25 апр 2024
- PFT reacts to the Falcons' stunning decision to select QB Michael Penix Jr. at No. 8 overall, highlighting why the pick instantly ends the honeymoon between Kirk Cousins and Atlanta. #NBCSports #ProFootballTalk #NFLDraft
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Taking a 24 year old QB at 8 and putting him on the bench wasting he's rookie contract after paying Kirk $180 million is nasty work lol
That's falcons football baby!
NASTY WORK you could've put that money elsewhere!!!!!
Super NASTY
Or an about to be 36 year old qb with a MAJOR injury and no mobility has a replacement in waiting.
@@SunniMerlotmakes them look smart for signing him for 2 years guaranteed
Next level strategy by the Falcons. Let’s throw 180m to Kirk and burn out Penix’s rookie contract so they can pay another 180m to Penix right after.
Having kirks replacement on the team might be the key to keeping Kirk on his toes .. it's never been the case in his carrier .
True he needs some pressure. If it’s too lax, he’ll just cruise like he usually does.
dude gonna get his money he has no trade in his contract. he could care less about replacement
"Dysfunctional teams do dysfunctional things."
Belichick is like - PHEW! Dodge that collaborative working BS
Bet ya bill belichiek is like I'm glad that team didn't hire me... 😂
For Morris being on the player level & such a "great straight forward communicator" why'd he elect to throw the buzzards a free meal by drafting a QB with their 1st pick after just breaking the bank & NFL tampering regulations to sign a $180M QB? Why knowingly invite that distraction into your building even before Kirk has taken a single snap as a Falcons QB? Most teams (who annually draft in the top 10) don't play with their 1st pick like it's a luxury to add depth at a single position as opposed to filling holes with the best player available to take that next step instead of looking three or four steps down the road. If I'm Kirk, I'm wondering was I supposed to use that $180M to go out & sign my own protection & acquire my own weapons? Think of all the QBs who aren't half as good as Cousins & how happy they are today that their teams believed in them enough to help them instead of drafting my predecessor & expecting me to produce while I do some on the job training of my replacement. What? WHY?
Ah, but it sounds like a "Bill Belichiek" move.
@@adamrhome8055 belichiek wouldn't have drafted an offensive player in the first round unless they were an overrated receiver or an offensive lineman. I appreciate you wasting your time typing the long response above no1 is going to read lmao
This is a bill move 100%
Plus the Vikings probably got the QB they wanted anyway and got Dallas Turner, whom the Falcons should probably have drafted. God the Falcons got smoked 😂
So why we should have gotten Dallas Turner? We got what we needed. Plus Minnesota had to trade up twice and totally destroyed their picks for next year.
okay good luck with cousins mr 1 playoff win in his career and Pitts and London are know where near the talent jj and hock were 😂
@@brucereid7165 We dont care. Plenty of cash next year to sign free agents. What your Falcons did to Kirk is nonsense lmao. What a shitty way to start his NFL career with the Falcons.
@@brucereid7165because the falcons haven’t had a double digit sack guy since 2016.
If you guys haven’t noticed this is an offensive league. As long as their fantasy football going on offense is more important than defense. Plus the Falcons defense was good. Ridder threw 12 interceptions and had 12 fumbles. Drafting a defensive player doesn’t solve the offensive issue. Plus you guys commenting didn’t even watch the Falcons last year. Y’all sound like media parrots. Kirk is a great QB who is productive with great offensive talent. He wins games and focuses on ball security. A top tier defensive lineman can’t influence more games than a QB.
Dallas Turner being there at 17 for the Vikings was so sweet.
Being there?? They traded up
He’s not gonna be starting (unless they just bench Cousins or he’s hurt) until he’s like 27
Even if he is really good, the age window is way shorter
Contract issue as well. They would get 1 year, and that would be his rookie year essentially, to see if he's good enough for a big contract to hold onto him
Dude these mfs will play until like 38-42yrs old stop it 😂😂
No one knows if Kirk can survive another nfl season. Is health isn’t guaranteed so if he goes down we would be stuck with Taylor Heineke again? That’s not a good situation for an organization to put themselves in. Penix is a secret weapon that doesn’t have to play and he can actually heal up if Kirk plays for 2 years.
@@sammywilliams6in 10 years who knows how long people will play. I see Mahomes playing into his early 60s
Kirk hasn't won shit. He's a Stat man only. Get a lot of garbage yards in the fourth. Penix is there to win the job at least next year. If Kirk doesn't make a playoff run with thT talent
Brady was late draft pick, not #8 pick - bad analogy
You only draft Penix if your team has no holes. Not smart.
It's so strange i just don't get it
Yep...like the Packers when they took Rogers when they had Favre; or when they took Love when they had Rogers..... paying $100 million and then drafting,,,,, That's burning the owners money and a fireable offense.
@@chm97chm97 At least Green Bay was a playoff caliber team. Atlanta is not right now.
Well their BIGGEST hole is QB.
Kirk is 36.
Atlanta just created a quarterback problem
Kirk Cousins wasn’t the solution anyway. They just overpaid for him. But it’s 2024 NfL. Lots of overpaid QB’s.
Penix will start for the Atlanta Falcons on opening day 2026. The clock is already ticking on Kirk Cousins. ⏳️
The Falcons GM is smart, he knows he won’t win next year so he’s betting on the future already 😂
Kirk said in his opening interview that he hoped he could even sign another deal after this one with Atlanta lol. Kirk got greedy he said it’s not about the dollars it’s what the dollars represent before leaving Minnesota when asked if he would take a pay cut to help build a contender in Minnesota sense he’s been paid 200 million by the Vikings already. Then he just took the biggest deal possible again when Minnesota really wanted to finally win with him.
The Falcons just told Kirk: "it's not about the pick, it's about what the pick represents". 😀
As a life long falcons fan, I don't see Kirko making it 17 games for four years with no injuries. I see him here for two years, and I could totally see a Romo/Prescott moment happening along the way in year two or three of the Cousins era, though I'm not so sure Kirk will handle it as gracefully.
Kirk Cousins is one of the most durable QBs over the course of his career.... He is never injured... This Achilles injury, is his first serious injury of his career.
Don’t let Chris have a day off today we want his draft reaction
I dont understand why Kirk is upset. Now we need his permission on who to pick??? He got his money and he's QB1. Win now and groom Penix for our future...The QB situation is complete.....the opportunity is still there for our need in the draft.....Geesh!!!!
Cousins and some in the fan base think Cousins was some sort of long term solution. It’s a little delusional for me. He got overpaid to start now at QB not general manager.
This movie tells me one thing Kirk cousins is on the clock
Just like he was in MN.
Kirk doesn’t do well being pushed. He can be real insecure when challenged. Skol Vikings😎
Falcons messed up fr dallas turner wouldve been better and great for their defense 😂
Shocked and disappointed could be the Atlanta Falcons slogan. 😂😂
That's the fans slogan
Penix Jr my fav QB in the draft has an amazingly accurate deep ball
Short to medium no accuracy or touch. Pocket Frankenstein no mobility. Slow at reads and never faced pressure in his life. Wrecked knee 2X and both shoulders.
Everyone acts like Kirk Cousins is completely healed from his injury and is ready to play. There’s nothing wrong with the Falcons boosting the QB room even after paying Kirk 100 million. If you don’t draft a top level QB, you’re stuck shopping in Free Agency with the same QBs. Plus we still had Taylor Heineken on the roster so you telling me he’s a great QB option? Remember this is a business. Kirk is already 35 years old. Everyone can’t be Tom Brady.
This is the smartest thing I've heard, "If you don't draft a top level QB, you're stuck shopping in free agency.." That's about it in a nut shell.
@@brob8204 the defensive coordinators already have the scouting report on all the journeymen Free Agency QBs. Therefore you are already at a disadvantage. No one is excited signing backup QBs lol. It makes sense to load up the QB room with new talent that league doesn’t have any film on. Plus signing Kirk Cousins and him getting us a good record in the NFC can also take us out of contention of getting a high draft pick to get a future QB. We really got lucky to grab Penix. Ridder played so bad to get us the 9th pick!!! He had 12 interceptions and 12 fumbles.
Anyone who actually watched the Falcons know how bad the QB play was. As an organization there’s no need to put yourself in position to draft a QB when you’re in a dire position bc it’s too late. Packers are a great organization the QB room had a nice transition. We questioned Jordan Love but he broke through but they didn’t ask a rookie to takeover/ save a franchise
Kirk should be fine - he's got the $100 guaranteed whatever happens. Agree it's a bit odd to have an 8 pick and sit them on the bench.
He’s paid, and he’s paid well.
He needs to be professional about it and compete and not make it “weird”.
You've obviously never played sports
When he has a bad game or if the Falcons start losing, Cousins will definitely start hearing the "Michael" chants. Todays football fans have very little patience.
As a Vikings fan this was smart. Kirk wanted all this money but no competition for him to earn it or insurance plan if he doesn’t perform (or injury). Atlanta got themselves a good insurance policy in case Kirks situation turns out like Russell Wilson. Too bad they wasted all that money on him when that could’ve went to other holes
Drafting an insurance policy at 8th overall is crazy.
They didn't draft him at #8 to just shelve him for the next 4 years. Kirk Cousins just found out that his 4 year deal was actually a 2 year deal. And Atlanta may lose their 1st round pick in next years draft. So this was a preemptive move by the Falcons.
Well everyone knew that cousins was a bridge albeit a terribly expensive one. Raheem is about building a Qb ‘room’ so that will work. Both of these Qb can get the ball out to their skill players. I guess if penix is ready, then they could trade cousins but that’s a lot of $ to eat for insurance. And the defense needs work too.
Atlanta needed a quarterback to work on Tuesday, lol
It was simply a horrible pick for the Falcons. Penix is not the problem, it's just the situation didn't call for a QB. What the Falcons did was simply stupid for so many reasons.
Kirk Cousins is mediocre at best. And now he is 36 and injured. People who can see clearly realize what the Falcons realized. They still didn’t have the best position covered. They just overpaid for Cousins. Now that was stupid.
The gm finally watched Kirk's playoff vids. 😅😂
👍
Either that, or had a discreet conversation with Kirks former head coach in MN Mike Zimmer.
They needed a qb that can win at night an in primetime
The falcons f*** this up you have defensive issues and yet you take Michael penick's Junior that was just not smart
Mike's Vikes got maybe the 5th best QB in the draft to play alongside Sam Darnold
Yeah I had JJ rated 5th best QB as well, Justin Jefferson could be traded next off season if Minny flops this year. I think they’ll finish last in the Div they’re +750 to win the Div and the Books are correct
Get Devin more on this show he’s awesome to listen to
I thought the NFL the basis on the NFL was competition. Florio did say this yesterday and thought he was crazy. Deserves credit on that one
Lol this is a pick that the vintage (1999-2018) Browns would have made. Unbelievable pick
who will be foolish enough to spit it out before the actual draft
ATL must also think it's easy to adjust the offensive line to a lefty QB.
I think this is a Russell Wilson situation, if Penix kills it during the preseason Kirk Cousins job is definitely in jeopardy. Teams don’t care about the cap hit anymore
Dont forget their only elite defensive player is coming back from a major injury.
For all of you saying he'll be sitting for years is laughable. Kirk will benched by year 2.
And that’s okay. He is old and injured. It’s time to start planning to be a backup anyway.
Different topic: Mac could replace Chris Simms long term on PFT 🗣️
11:35 Bill only played Brady when Bledsoes spleen got busted, stop rewriting the story.
It doesn't make any sense at all. Penix isn't a project that needs to sit - he's ready to go now. He's older than most college QBs and the Falcons have him on a cheap rookie deal. They needer to either capitalize on their window wjth Kirk Cousins or capitalize on Penix's cheap rookie QB contract window.
They obviously didnt learn anything with the whole Dehaun Watson and Matt Ryan Fiasco.
Hey Kirk, YOU LIKE THAT?
😆😆😆
Atlanta is expecting the NFL to screw their draft next year so they figured now is the time to get a QB
Yep. That had to draft Penix because of that.
How would the NFL screw their draft?
@@brob8204 penalties from the tampering case with Cousins
Bill gotta be laughing his ass off. Yall wanted to keep this gm over me 😂😂😂😂 old man blank
If cousins get hurt guess u gone moonwalk betta than Michael Jackson
Remember, this is the team that rejected a six time Super Bowl winning coach! He couldn’t be happier today!
Kirk is sub par, he is an upgrade for Atlanta but come on lol. He obviously didn't care when he got drafted after RG 3, so stop crying, play football and enjoy all that money you made with you sub par make the playoffs and get bounced as the ceiling record.
I think florio is under the impression JJ is better than Pennix
Maybe it takes more than money to know you are wanted.
Penix is the greatest QB since Mahomes... (imagine Joe Montana with potential Steve Young leg speed. No top 10 team should be foolish enough to pass GREATNESS by.
The draft community is logic skirt clicks!
Penix was going to be there why sign Cousins
Kirk Does Not Like That
Why what was weird about them doing what the vikings should have and having kirk mentor a young guy. One guy play till 45 and now everyone is going to? Kirk Cleary is nearing the end of his career...
Then don’t sign him to a 4 year, 180 million dollar deal and then draft a QB. Buy a bridge for 1 year and enjoy building your team around your 8th pick on a rookie contract. You know, like the Vikings just did with Darnold/McCarthy.
@historybuff1483 why copy the vikings who's list of successfully developed qbs includes no entries lmao...
Maybe, they'be been trying that failed strategy since Matt Ryan left and it hasn't worked like it pretty much never does
@@SunShine-xc6dh its not the Vikings strategy. The Chiefs did the same thing.
@historybuff1483 no they didn't Smith was there for 3 year before they drafted mahomes. It would be like if the vikings were smart enough to take a top qb last year and decide he's ready before moving from cousins.
Exactly. Somehow because they overpaid for Cousins they have to act like he is some franchise QB. He isn’t. Never really has been. Mediocre is his defining trait.
This is why people can keep picking them but bucs will continue to win cuz they are the better drafting team in the NFC South. Falcons being the falcons
Atlanta Falcons decions at QB since 2018:
- May 2018, Sign Matt Ryan at age 33 to a new 5 year deal, $100mil guaranteed (he never has another season at or above .500 or another Pro Bowl selection)
- Mar 2022, Trade Matt Ryan with 2 years remaining on his contract for a 3rd round pick, Sign Marcus Mariota, Pursue trade for, but fail to acquire, Deshaun Watson
- Apr 2022, Draft Desmond Ridder in the 3rd round
- Feb 2023, Release Marcus Mariota
- Mar 2023, Do not pursue Lamar Jackson trade, Sign Taylor Heinicke
- Mar 2024, Sign Kirk Cousins at age 35, coming off a torn Achilles, to a 4 year contract for $180mil, $100mil guaranteed, Trade Desmond Ridder
- Apr 2024, Draft soon to be 24 year old Michael Penix Jr., who has torn his ACL twice and has had multiple serious shoulder injuries, with the 8th pick overall.
Wow.
Best comment/ history lesson in the entire thread. The facts don't lie. Thanks for doing your homework. Atlanta IS what Detroit WAS!
The Seahawks should have got Michael penix Jr and the Seahawks should trade with the falcons and get Penix to the Northwest
You can't tell me your favorite Kathy Griffin joke. And the left absolutely defended her. Just Hillary couldn't condone it publicly.
The Seahawks Should've Drafted Michael penix jr
Here’s the vibe. 35yo, injured, career mediocrity. Cousins is not a franchise QB he is a place holder. He should know his role. He got way overpaid to play it.
I’m glad they did that so the Raiders couldn’t get any QB😂
Cry me a river Kirk 😂
Everyone saying well it’s cause cousins is 35 coming off an Achilles it’s insurance!! Well pennix is more injury prone than cousins!!!!! 4 major surgeries already! 4!
100% of QB's Kirk's age have a gm working on replacing them obviously its not that weird at all florio has the worst content in sports bar none
Why are QBs so damn sensitive. Backups are needed at all positions. Quit whining
Kirk is upset because like everyone else expected we draft a player to win now not a backup
who cares
Penix going Top10 and before JJ not a surprise, in reality Minny & LV were trying to trade up for Penix after Wash took Jayden. Raider fan but I thought Atl should’ve taken Odunze
Odunze, Pitts, London, and Bijan. Yeah I wanted that too.
Why did he apologies to Uk communitys?
Britts are fragile