I Paint The Same Watercolour Floral Bouquet On The 2 Best 100% Cotton Paper Brand. Who wins?

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  • Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024

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  • @lisamessina5952
    @lisamessina5952 Год назад +11

    For your North American viewers, Cheap Joe’s has an in house brand called Kilimanjaro. It is 100% cotton and made by Fabriano. I love their sketchbooks and loose paper as well. Very economical but unfortunately not for other countries. If you can ever get your hands on some, it is excellent.

    • @crystaltanart
      @crystaltanart  Год назад +1

      Thanks for the recommendation! Many people have recommended Kilimanjaro! I'll have a look around the interweb for it!

  • @StudioXue
    @StudioXue Год назад +4

    What a fun comparison video! I've been trying out other paper brands, but I keep coming back to Fabriano as well. 😂

    • @crystaltanart
      @crystaltanart  Год назад

      Once you try the best, its hard to go back! But I do have other fav 100% cotton paper brands too. So I will def do a video on that soon!

  • @crystaltanart
    @crystaltanart  Год назад +2

    Join me on a 5 week Intuitive and Joyful Loose Floral Course LIVE Zoom class in August 2023 this year, head to www.crystaltanart.com/onlinecourses

  • @mwGoosman
    @mwGoosman Год назад +1

    I really like the colors as they appear on the Arches…both are lovely.

    • @crystaltanart
      @crystaltanart  Год назад

      Interesting! It could be a brighter white paper thats why. Thank u for watching!

    • @mwGoosman
      @mwGoosman Год назад

      Thanks for posting, I enjoyed the comparison and your flowers!

  • @sherizapara2992
    @sherizapara2992 Год назад +2

    I like Arches, for when I want lots of "blooms", cause it doesn't soak in so fast. ...your painting was.great...thankx!!❤

    • @crystaltanart
      @crystaltanart  Год назад +1

      Thank you so much 😀 Arches is a great brand! But I do love Fabriano more!

  • @tinacookieleesanchez6850
    @tinacookieleesanchez6850 Год назад +3

    I honestly think both papers are lovely as I am watching you paint💕 thank you for sharing this video. I am starting to get back into my watercolor painting, and I don’t honestly know what’s the best paper out there going to try both of them and cut them to make my cards. ✌🏼💗

    • @crystaltanart
      @crystaltanart  Год назад

      The fun part of art is trying out different supplies!!! So have fun!!! Thanks for watching the painting too. :)

  • @Artbymerit
    @Artbymerit Год назад +3

    I have only used Arches and do feel the resistance. Now I need to go buy the other one. Thank you for this video, very helpful 💜

    • @crystaltanart
      @crystaltanart  Год назад +1

      Haha yes try it!!! It really is so good.!

    • @pippaloves
      @pippaloves Год назад +2

      I also find that!! Glad it’s not just me being a noob.

    • @Artbymerit
      @Artbymerit Год назад +1

      @@pippaloves I live in the US and Arches seems to be more accessible around me- at Michael’s lol

  • @JElias-qu2vy
    @JElias-qu2vy Год назад +6

    Thank you so much for this video with just 2 comparisons! I have watched several videos where too many have been compared at one time and, as a beginner, it's overwhelming! With that being said, I have had both Arches & Fabriano in my newbie "stash build-up", but I'm so afraid that I'll love them both so much better than the others that I have, and I want to use them all up while learning!? Hopefully, that makes sense! Again, thank you so much for this video! ❤

    • @crystaltanart
      @crystaltanart  Год назад +1

      You're welcome! I totally get what you mean. I have SO MANY brands in my stash. But I totally ignore some of them because they are just not as good.

    • @MrsBarnabas
      @MrsBarnabas Год назад +2

      JElias, please do bear in mind that the sizing of watercolour paper deteriorates with time, and climate & or how it is stored can speed up this process, so my recommendation is to use it, enjoy it, and go on using those you like best when your stock runs out. I think you'll not go back to student paper once you've used 100% cotton and given it a chance - the results are worth it, as we'll waste less paper than asking a non-cotton paper to behave as we really want it to behave in some techniques and with colour vibrancy in most cases.
      A "sort-of disclaimer": I'm not agin non-cotton paper in general. I've used some, and still use them for certain things, but as Crystal's video so clearly shows, in the end, it's down to what suits us, and our way of painting. So do use yours and compare what you have, and above all, enjoy using them! 😊

    • @MrsBarnabas
      @MrsBarnabas Год назад

      @@crystaltanart EEK! Please see my reply to JElias re sizing issues! 😊

  • @DarkisArt
    @DarkisArt Год назад +1

    I love both papers but Fabriano is nicer to my pocket/budget! FYI, Fabriano Studio WC is excellent for acrylics. I enjoy painting with acrylics on it!

  • @nanimatette
    @nanimatette Год назад +1

    just found your channel and immediately subscribed 😊 I love Fabriano, and use it constantly. Here in Italy Fabriano is more affordable than Arches (that's the main reason I haven't tryed it yet 🤭), even cheaper when you buy the big sheets that then I cut myself, I am currently buying them in packages where I pay 3 and get 5!

    • @crystaltanart
      @crystaltanart  Год назад +1

      Awesome! I have found buy 3 get 1 free Fabriano full sheets too at my local art store so yes they are cheaper!

  • @Goldi-Luc
    @Goldi-Luc Год назад +3

    i actually quite prefer baohong to arches , i like the texture better and dont feel afraid to use it because of the price haha. i haven't tried fabriano yet.
    beautiful painting i enjoyed painting along : )

    • @crystaltanart
      @crystaltanart  Год назад +3

      I love baohong! Works fine for me too! Very similar to Arches.

    • @clikchicdesigns
      @clikchicdesigns Год назад

      Baohong is my current favourite because of its more reasonable price.

  • @fizishn
    @fizishn 2 месяца назад +1

    I wish your demonstration had more explanatons as to why you preferred one over the other. All I know is that you like how Fabriano is more absorbent and smoother.

  • @brigitteitg
    @brigitteitg Год назад +3

    I’m also more in favour of the Fabriano paper as I feel I have more control over my painting, but without loosing the flow of the colours (and I paint in a very different style to you). I now use my Arches paper only for very loose abstract pieces.

    • @crystaltanart
      @crystaltanart  Год назад +2

      I feel Fabriano just accepts my paintings a bit more than Arches. Arches has a strange resistance. It's still good though.

  • @johnsalamone3152
    @johnsalamone3152 Год назад +1

    Thank you for this. It was nice to see the comparison!

  • @patriciatolliver4057
    @patriciatolliver4057 Год назад +1

    I'm a total Fabriano fan. I love the paper.

  • @margbrady
    @margbrady Год назад

    I hear what you are saying about the movement of the paint in Fabriano but I prefer the way the paint dries on the Arches. The granulating pigments are beautiful there.

    • @crystaltanart
      @crystaltanart  Год назад +1

      I can totally see how if u like granulation, arches will perform way better! Good point, but got me and my bright florals, Fabriano wins!

  • @michelemarchesani5139
    @michelemarchesani5139 Год назад +1

    I may have missed your mention of this, Fabrianio uses vegan size, while arches uses gelatine! Makes it so easy for me to chose Fabriano!

    • @crystaltanart
      @crystaltanart  Год назад +1

      I never knew that! But a few people have said that in the comments. So yay!

  • @clikchicdesigns
    @clikchicdesigns Год назад +1

    The sizing going off in papers in Australia does happen. My mother in law gave me some watercolour papers she had been storing for years and I suspected it might be having issues because it had yellowed a little. So I tested it by painting along one side and there were clear issues with how the paper was taking the watercolour paint along one side of the paper. I have cut the rest of it up to test colours etc.

    • @crystaltanart
      @crystaltanart  Год назад

      YikeS! What brand was it?

    • @clikchicdesigns
      @clikchicdesigns Год назад

      @@crystaltanart I don’t know, it was a sheet and it didn’t have any markings on it. It could easily have been 20 years old though. She did live in Brisbane for much of that time however which can get quite humid.

  • @nancypyter1511
    @nancypyter1511 Год назад +1

    This was a great video Crystal! I'm still a beginner so I've been using Bee paper for now.🥰

    • @lightwavz
      @lightwavz Год назад

      Bee is my favorite over these brands. The Speedball 100% cotton Fluid is nice too. The best paper is the one you love using.

    • @nancypyter1511
      @nancypyter1511 Год назад

      @@lightwavz thank you! While I feel I am still learning and because of how expensive great watercolor paper is, I am very happy with the Bee paper!🥰

    • @crystaltanart
      @crystaltanart  Год назад

      I have heard great things about Bee! But they dont sell them here.

    • @joys4524
      @joys4524 Год назад

      I bought a roll of Bee paper during the pandemic because i couldn't get Arches, it was fine for practice but I did miss my Arches because the sizing on the Bee was not even which made my landings splotches.i like Baohong coldpressed now for price and Quality. I have not tried the hot presses or the rough to date.

  • @wendibridge3577
    @wendibridge3577 Год назад +1

    Thanks for this Crystal. I have been using Fabriano Studio watercolour paper, I like the hot press at the moment. Good to know that when I am ready the Fabriano Artistico is the one to step up to. Bonus floral tutorial as well as the review of the paper 😊

    • @crystaltanart
      @crystaltanart  Год назад +1

      You are so welcome! I have tried Fabriano Studio as well. But cold press and it think it's 25% cotton? I really didn't like it at all! heehee. I will review other brands and hopefully give a wider view! For e.g academy / meeden is really good cotton paper that is not too expensive!

    • @wendibridge3577
      @wendibridge3577 Год назад

      @@crystaltanart Hi Crystal, thanks for the reply. I will look out for Meeden paper. I have just bought some 100% cotton watercolour paper from OfficeWorks. It is called Born To Create and is vegan friendly too. I haven't tried it yet, but for the price it could be OK.

    • @crystaltanart
      @crystaltanart  Год назад

      @@wendibridge3577 I've seen that brand from officeworks and have yet to try it. Now I must :)

  • @HunterGraham-Stewart
    @HunterGraham-Stewart Год назад

    I'm visiting from your Instagram posts. I so loved watching you paint. I've subscribed to you and I look forward to viewing your other posts. Thank you for all your work.

    • @crystaltanart
      @crystaltanart  Год назад +1

      Thanks for subbing! You're most welcome. Appreciate your appreciation of my work! :)

  • @lydialee2023
    @lydialee2023 Год назад

    Such a fun video to watch, I usually just get whichever is having a discount, haha, but I am totally up for trying whatever is available at the market. X

    • @crystaltanart
      @crystaltanart  Год назад

      Yes me too. I am not that fussy usually, but thought it would be a fun video to make!

    • @lydialee2023
      @lydialee2023 Год назад

      @@crystaltanart For sure, this is fun video content. X

  • @victoriajane2468
    @victoriajane2468 Год назад +1

    I really like both paintings and think they’re especially fresh without a second layer. I’ve only painted with Arches, and when you say it floats on the paper, I’m thinking wouldn’t that be good if you wanted the work to stay wet longer so you had time to add more paint to let colors bleed? In any case, now I’m going to try Fabriano!

    • @crystaltanart
      @crystaltanart  Год назад +1

      I know what you mean... The floating thing gives us more time to work. But Fabriano still gives you time without that floating look! Which is why I find it so amazing!!!! Give it a try and let me know.

  • @jas0409
    @jas0409 Год назад

    Great comparison Crystal. I would go with Fabriano.. Just the flow and the way the colours mingled and dried. Arches felt a little 'stiff'. In India we have some local, handmade 100% cotton paper. Its much cheaper.

    • @crystaltanart
      @crystaltanart  Год назад +1

      I totally agree! And are Khadi papers similar to what you are describing for whats available in india?

  • @cm_watercolours
    @cm_watercolours Год назад +2

    I can't use Arches, because it's sized with gelatin (not vegan). I've used Fabriano and didn't mind it. I mostly use Baohong but really love Hahnemule for when I want to use 'fancy' paper!

    • @crystaltanart
      @crystaltanart  Год назад +1

      I must try Hahnemule as many people have suggetsed it! thanks!

    • @TiuTauTilhi
      @TiuTauTilhi Год назад +1

      @@crystaltanart When you do, could you also do a comparison like this with Hahnemule and Fabriano?

  • @marcemiss
    @marcemiss Год назад

    Hello, Crystal. I love Arches, never tried Frabriano because I cannot find it in my local art store. Maybe I will get lucky next time I buy paper. Nice video.

    • @crystaltanart
      @crystaltanart  Год назад +1

      If your art store sells full size loose sheets of professional watercolour paper, they should have Fabriano alongside Arches. Try buying one sheet and cutting it into small pieces. My paintings on fabriano almost always look amazing!

  • @meldixon1918
    @meldixon1918 Год назад +1

    I’ve always been confused why Arches seems to be the industry standard. I’ve only tried Fabriano in hot press and am anxious to try cold pressed!

    • @crystaltanart
      @crystaltanart  Год назад +1

      Hahaha! I know right!? I'm going to give it one more try and get a Block which I haven't tried. I only tried loose sheets (which was disappointing) and pads.

    • @jas0409
      @jas0409 Год назад

      Thank you for putting that thought out there! My thoughts too

  • @kriskrumanaker4315
    @kriskrumanaker4315 Год назад

    I like your Arches painting better. I've used Arches and was surprised that it seemed difficult to adjust to. Perhaps I'll try Fabriano and see if I like it better.

    • @crystaltanart
      @crystaltanart  Год назад +2

      When I used Arches for the very first time I was also like.... hmmm why is it so scratchy and weird? Fabriano is simply divine.

  • @jessicataylor3819
    @jessicataylor3819 Год назад

    This makes me think of doing like a watercolor paper tournament bracket, haha. I’d be curious to hear your thoughts comparing Fabriano to Stonehenge Legion paper! I’m still new to watercolor, but that’s the nicer quality paper I’ve been gifted and I’m still trying to force myself to jump in and use it more!

    • @crystaltanart
      @crystaltanart  Год назад

      I don't mind stonehenge legion. But in the past when I have done a comparison, I feel that the colour fades a bit more on stonehenge, It's still a great paper!

  • @LindaMW
    @LindaMW Год назад

    Thanks!

  • @loveandlife4222
    @loveandlife4222 Год назад

    I use both and I love both. It’s when I use lower quality paper that I have reason to complain. 😁 If you decide you no longer want your arches I would be happy to take it off your hands. 😁😁

    • @crystaltanart
      @crystaltanart  Год назад +1

      Hahaha I know it feels abit wrong to complain about Arches!! If I try more inferior brands, Arches will win for sure.

  • @mayragarcia883
    @mayragarcia883 9 месяцев назад

    I dont really have a preference when it comes to Arches and Fabriano 100% cotton paper in terms of workability. They both work great for me in that regard. I do however have a preference in terms of storing longevity. I live on an Island which means humidity pretty much all year. Because of this I prefer Arches watercolor paper. I think the harder sizing used helps it withstand environmental changes better. For context, I got a few sheets of different 100% cotton paper brands about 10 years ago to try and the only one that remained in pristine working condition was Arches. They were all stored in the same place and under the same conditions. Even artwork made on the other papers got yellow spots on some areas. So for my environment (clearly not museum conditions), Arches is the way to go.
    I also find watercolor blocks to last longer since they are protected on all four sides. So if you live surrounded by humidity Arches will withstand better than softer sized papers in pads or loose sheets. Softer sized papers will last longer in block form.
    To save money I usually diy my watercolor blocks.

  • @rebeccahesser8057
    @rebeccahesser8057 Год назад

    I also prefer Fabriano paper. I have never seen any RUclipsrs use Lana aquarelle. It’s my favorite paper and so much like Fabriano

    • @crystaltanart
      @crystaltanart  Год назад

      I haven't tried Lana! I dont believe I have even come across it before! Will google it. :)

  • @smkdesigns24
    @smkdesigns24 Год назад

    I love both a lot but Fabriano may have a bit of an edge. I am going to try this today. I also feel like the block of the Arches is better than the pad.

    • @crystaltanart
      @crystaltanart  Год назад

      You know, I have tried Arches full sheets and Arches pad. But have never bought a block coz it's always super duper expensive. BUT maybe I will need to give it a go.

  • @ErinEnoArt
    @ErinEnoArt Год назад

    I’m trying to love the Fabriano but I get frustrated because it lifts so easily. The paper even states now that they have improved the lifting properties but have they gone too far?

    • @crystaltanart
      @crystaltanart  Год назад

      I think we all have our favourites depend on our style of painting. So happy to take off all your Fabriano if you don't like it! Hahaha (someone commented and said she will be happy to take all my Arches! :))

  • @slvva
    @slvva Год назад

    Hello Crystal. Thank you for your presentation and review 😃
    I tried both papers and dont like them.
    Fabriano waves a lot under more water and Arches doesn't respond to colour lifting.
    My choice is definitely W&N and Canson Heritage. But the most economical for me and really good is Strathmore.
    I like Arches hot press for graphite and coloured pencils a lot BC its smooth but handle lot of layers beautifully.

    • @crystaltanart
      @crystaltanart  Год назад +1

      Thanks for sharing!! True Fabriano does buckle a bit. But I love how it accepts my painting. I have tried Canson Heritage and its so so for me. Never tried W&N yet.

    • @slvva
      @slvva Год назад +1

      @@crystaltanart We are lucky we have so many to choose from.
      It's all about type of painting I think.

    • @crystaltanart
      @crystaltanart  Год назад

      @@slvva Yes totally true! We are so blessed.

  • @pippaloves
    @pippaloves Год назад

    You get Fabriano in extra white. It’s really beautiful

    • @crystaltanart
      @crystaltanart  Год назад +1

      Yes I know! when I come across a sale of fabriano extra white, I grab!!!

    • @kirtijain8610
      @kirtijain8610 2 месяца назад

      @@crystaltanart where to buy fabriano in Singapore?

    • @crystaltanart
      @crystaltanart  Месяц назад

      @@kirtijain8610 art friend !

  • @user-mp9lo4gr4n
    @user-mp9lo4gr4n Год назад

    I have trouble with Fabriano standing up to heavy brushing or scrub work.

    • @crystaltanart
      @crystaltanart  Год назад

      Cool to know! I think it all depends on our painting style! Thanks for watching and commenting :)

  • @juliart5
    @juliart5 Год назад

    Hi Crystal, thank you for that video! I would love to try Fabriano, but unfortunatelly Fabriano in Europe is double the price of Arches. :(

    • @crystaltanart
      @crystaltanart  Год назад

      Double wow! Isn't Fabriano Italian? So it shouldnt be too expensive in Europe?!

    • @MrsBarnabas
      @MrsBarnabas Год назад

      Where are you in Europe? I'm in France and I've just done a comparison online between the two, and this certainly isn't the case! The prices are pretty much equal. I tried to compare on Amazon France, but the prices for Arches vary so much that it is impossible. I don't buy my w/c paper from them because those low prices are truly questionable and the highest prices are just ridiculous!
      Arches is a French paper, and Fabriano, Italian, so there are no import taxes involved. Please see my reply to Crystal, too, for the Jackson's comparison. I did it in Euros, and the prices don't include import duties, but these are based on the price of the product, which would make Arches even more expensive.

    • @MrsBarnabas
      @MrsBarnabas Год назад

      @@crystaltanart I don't know where he./she is, but it isn't the case here in France,, where they are similar, and on Jackson's UK, Arches is massively more expensive. _Disclaimer:_ trying to do a size by size comparison is very difficult., as the sizes between the two only match directly on the 24 x 18cm. With the others, the I chose the slightly larger Fabriano equivalent. 😊

    • @juliart5
      @juliart5 Год назад

      @@MrsBarnabas I am from Germany. Gerstaecker is the only german shop, who has it and for the 23 x 30 cm Pad it's about 35 Euro. 20 sheets. Amazon: 53 Euro 🙃 The Arches 23 x 31 cm, 12 sheets is 18 Euro. (Ok, I just realise its 20 to 12 sheets, so almost double too. 😃)

  • @Scottlp2
    @Scottlp2 Год назад +1

    Hoping you tested not only 140 lb, but 300 lb paper

  • @areesha22
    @areesha22 Год назад

    I dislike the pad paper of arches as well, but in the large sheets the paper is different. It is glorious for wet and wet style.

    • @crystaltanart
      @crystaltanart  Год назад

      I also have tried the large full sheets of arches and feel it is the same as the pad! But I have heard what you have said. Maybe I just got a "bad batch".

  • @andreaharutunian3838
    @andreaharutunian3838 Год назад

    Love your style ...i am working on becoming looser -

    • @crystaltanart
      @crystaltanart  Год назад +1

      Thank! Trust me, going looser is so great as the need to be perfect just goes out the window! Very free-ing!

  • @K.ART_vlog
    @K.ART_vlog Год назад

    so nice ❤ new friend

  • @LindaMW
    @LindaMW Год назад

    I have never used Fabriano. I tend to use less expensive paper as i am such a beginner. This was very helpful. Thank you!

    • @crystaltanart
      @crystaltanart  Год назад +1

      I totally get it. Good paper is pricey! But you will know when you are ready to upgrade. Try small amounts first and see what you think.

  • @Lichtzart
    @Lichtzart Год назад +1

    I use Winsor&Newton professional and Hahnemühle Expression. I dont like Arches.

    • @crystaltanart
      @crystaltanart  Год назад

      I've always wanted to try W&N 100% cotton but have not gotten my hands on any and also havent tried Hahnemulhle! Thanks for the recommendations!

  • @patmuscarella8279
    @patmuscarella8279 Год назад

    Oddly enough I live in flordia usa an I have had archs paper get moldy. Now I have had some sheets for a few years in a closet. When I started to paint blk spots occurred. Knowing it's cotton an I live in extremely tropical climate I did not question this. I since have taken it out of the box And left it out so it would get air circulation. It was unusable. Everything in florida will get moldy if you're not careful it's just how it is

    • @crystaltanart
      @crystaltanart  Год назад

      This is the same as when I was living in Singapore. Things just 'decompose' much quicker in the humidity! Clothes, elastic bands, shoes. And in the past, our VCR casette tapes would get mouldy so quick, they never last :( which was sad when its your favourite movie on that tape!!!

    • @patmuscarella8279
      @patmuscarella8279 Год назад

      Oh my. So true. These papers are to expensive to not be taken care of. I enjoyed your video. Iam going to try your choice of paper for a different effect. Thanks

  • @cindysimons2772
    @cindysimons2772 Год назад +1

    Maybe it is subjective like our art.

  • @hjs1689
    @hjs1689 Год назад

    Did it feel weird painting two identical paintings at the same time?

    • @crystaltanart
      @crystaltanart  Год назад +1

      Actually, it felt really strangely calming. The repetitiveness, somewhat like knitting perhaps? Made it meditative. I wonder how I might feel with more than 2! Maybe I should try testing 4 brands this way?