Ace Attorney Apollo Justice in Turnabout Trump: How to Write a Sequel
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- Опубликовано: 13 май 2020
- I am replaying Apollo Justice and I adore it! This game gets less respect than it deserves imo!!
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The "wine" is actually grape juice. Grape juice is Shu Takumi's favorite drink. A lot of people think that it's censorship, but it actually isn't.
That's actually really funny- I had no idea I look like a fool
@@pglassplays Oh no. like I said Sooooo many people think that it is supposed to be wine.
I think that was partially the point. It is way funnier to force us to think it is something else when it is actually what was presented at face value.
I'm not too knowledgeable on the alchemy or whatever side of things, but isn't wine technically like... Fermented grape juice or something 😂 ethier way, I like to believe hobo phoenix is a stable drunk xD stable enough to entrap kristoph, twice
That's hilarious if it's true damnnn
I can't help but to laugh imagining Apollo socking Wright in the face right in the defendant's lobby after he just saved him
2:31 The game is rated T because of the blood, strong language, and just the general setting of the game.
It's actually grape juice worldwide, even in Japan. Grape juice is a reference to Shu Takumi, the creator of the series. It's his favorite drink.
So in Japan juices are in wine bottle? Or at least in bottle similar to win bottle.
@@PhantomDogman I mean, I had once juice in bottle that looked like win bottle.
Yess grape juice is so good
Ribena
@@PhantomDogman depends, considering that phoenix is literally thee clubs biggest attraction, it is possible that the specific brand of grape juice phoenix likes comes in those bottles, and the club bought a few to accommodate for phoenix. Put him in a good mood
I actually remember being absolutely confused at the end of this trial cause I couldn't believe Wright actually forge evidence
I remember halfway through this case thinking "Huh, if Phoenix or Olga didn't do it... Wait wasn't Kristoph there?"
2:37 I love that, throughout AA4, Kristoph is written like someone who spent his formative years reading books before ever socializing. Like he knows how phrases work _in text_ but doesn’t understand that people don’t actually talk that way - so he’ll say absurdly verbose things out of nowhere. As a bonus, almost all these moments end up breaking his testimony (blue flame, the bald plate head, etc). It’s a great way to show how Kristoph’s facade is just a bit _off,_ his insistence on seeming so perfectly eloquent and affable keeping him from being seen as a normal person
I like early phoniex’s drip. Very cash money
fun fact for people who didn’t notice: the button on hobo phoenix’s hat is the same button from ema skye’s jacket in rise from the ashes from the DS port of the first AA game
I'm actually kinda torn on this case.
On the one hand, this case is incredible on its own and a fantastic opening case for the reasons that you mention.
On the other hand, the case's plot twist of Kristoph being outed as the killer did cause the game's overall plot to suffer a fair bit, especially since we don't know that much about Kristoph. I think it'd be more interesting if the culprit was never caught like in DD case 4, which allows us to get to know more about Kristoph throughout the game, while Phoenix/Beanix dropping some cryptic hints that Kristoph isn't who he seems to be from time to time, and when Kristoph finally gets outed as the killer for the final case, it would've delivered a significant gut punch since he gets to be (one of your) mentor(s) throughout the game.
All in all, still a good case, though admittedly I have more bias for Turnabout Corner as my favourite case from the game!
That would have been an amazing plot twist. I totally agree and now wish the game had done that instead, because I wanted to see more of Kristoph as he's quite a good villain and it's a shame he wasn't in the game as much as he could have been.
but then you'd have trouble having Trucy around.
Only issue is that I think waiting until Case 4 to reveal the truth might give Kristoph more time to turn Apollo into his perfect successor. It definitely would have been much harder to convince Apollo to follow through on it with Kristoph being such a strong influence. I also don't know if the game could really keep the truth subtle without the players realizing how obvious it is and getting annoyed with how easy it was to reach the final conclusion of case 4 without even needing to investigate. It could work but it would definitely need a lot more heavy writing.
Saw this on Reddit and MAN! Great job dude, I would love to see this turn into a series and see you go through the other cases in Apollo Justice because of how under represented I feel the game is
Subscribe and stay tuned! I have something like that I'm toying with :-) Thank you for the comment!
The atmosphere AA4 sets is amazing, it really feels darker and heavier with the corrupted court system etc.
Can I just say that Apollo justice was my favorite ace attorney game (TnT a dang close second)
I don’t understand why people dislike Apollo Justice, with cases like this it’s one of my favorites.
I should probably point out technically speaking Wright has lost a case. The case involving Matt Engarde.
His client was found guilty and thrown in jail to avoid DeKiller's revenge
What's also notable about this case is the way it sets up the themes and character arcs for the rest of the game, particularly Klavier's arc. Apollo's relationship with Kristoph as a kind, reassuring mentor who he has to betray for the truth parallels Klavier's relationship with his older brother. Apollo struggles, in both trump and succession, to face up against his boss; I imagine klavier goes through almost the exact same thing, but 10x worse because Kristoph is his own brother
These videos really help us understand the cases from the characters' point of view, like you're getting a close view and catching the dark details that Wright set up for Apollo to clear and the crimes that Gavin tried covering up. Keep releasing those my dude.
I'm actually amazed that this doesnt have any dislikes yet
You jinxed it
Bro you broke rule #47 of the internet: never mention that there are no dislikes on a post
Bruhh
3:01 Apollo is so adorable
I imagine them making this case the whole time went ohhhhh damn we need more cases half a year before release and that's how the other cases were made i honestly have no other explanation
1:37 He did lose once in the original trilogy, but what’s important is that he always found the truth in the end. (SPOILER for Ace Attorney: Justice For All) Matt Engarde, the final defendant of JfA, was guilty of murder, even if it wasn’t done by his hand. Just a nitpick, great video.
It was a loss in the records, but a win in Phoenix's heart.
finally my fave title of the aa series is getting the respect it deserves. great video bruv
The poker chips remind me of when we played poker at Tim’s lollll XD
Alot of people find wocky and the second case annoying and bad, and tho my favorite case is ironically the first(can't think of any games like this where the first obstacle is my favorite xD), I do enjoy klavier and generally any weirdo in these games lol
I actually really liked the second Apollo case, yeah, Wocky is a sniffling punk-ass b****, but that's kinda the point.
It's kind of intended that you're supposed to generally dislike him until you learn of the really tragic circumstances surrounding him, and realize he's just acting out because of his own insecurities, then you sort of just feel bad for him, especially since this is all happening to such a young and foolishly ignorant kid.
I beat the game a few days ago and I'm stunned at how good the story was...
This exposition of the beginning of the game is only a fraction of how good it gets by the end.
Had to like and sub, good content my guy!
Takes 7 years after Trials & Tribulations.
If you’re going to talk about ace attorney, you’ve gained a lifelong subscriber
Thank you so much for your content, I’ve been looking for good video essays on Ace Attorney and all your videos on it have been such good analysis and so thoughtful and well made, I hope you know how much your work is enjoyed !!!
That means a ton!! More than you know! Gonna go make more AA stuff rn thank you for watching!
@@pglassplays can’t wait to watch !! I’m going to rewatch more of your ace attorney videos again in the meantime, thank you sm for having such fresh takes and insights, your love for this game series shows in your work and its so nice to experience with you while watching !
amazing!!! This is my favorite case, of my favorite game, I love the in-depth analysis!
Honestly I think this is my favourite tutorial case out of every game, slightly ahead of investigations 2.
aye this analysis is fire
Ah, this game... for years I've had so many conflicting emotions about it. It has so many amazing things that make me wanna love it as my favorite in the series: the characters, the music, the themes... but at the same time, the writing in most cases always prevented me from choosing AA4 as my absolute favorite. This case tho is legit, it's my favorite in the game and I almost don't see any flaws in it. Best case 1 in the franchise by a good margin.
Personally for me I really like the first two cases, the third one with the sound mixing arrangement was just frustrating to navigate, and the final case , I'm overall mixed on but find the conclusion satisfying (making phoenix a attorney again coupled with the defense always having to go through hell the prosecution and judge makes for them afterwards kinda cheapened the ending to me, but counting the first 4 games, I think this is basically the logical next step for the series
This is a great video, it really encapsulates hat makes Turnabout Trump so great. I wish the devs had kept that energy through the rest of the game, but it’s an absolutely banger hook with the way it toys with expectations.
This is nice! :D
I really like ur video bro, good job.
Thank you! More soon :-)
Great video!
Thank you so much :-)
I was rambling a bit down there, but it's a feeling that every little bit is connecting.
Excellent analysis thank you very much I subscribed
I appreciate that very much :-)
This is so good! How does it have so little views?
It is popping off rn :-) thank you for watching
it has only one dislike... i see people appreciate his work with the heart.
Dude how do you have less subs than me
This is amazing work
Keep going king
Thank you friend that is very nice :) succession soon
The best intro case compared to the others in the series hands down.
Incredible.
This is so great, and it is an intro case
I had somewhat of trouble since I to this day do not know how to play poker and It felt to me when they talked about poker like *W H A T*
One thing I like about AA more than the original trilogy is more detailed diagrams of the incidents. I just wish one would play during case 3 and 4 😤
You like aj and turnabout big top 😁👌.
I enjoy aj too I like all the cases even the very odd 3rd case. How did no one question how a 'blind' kid shoots a gun but also gets no kickback from it.
The fact the forge case that got phoenix diabarred took place just 2 months after t&t was sad
Apollo Justice is the best main-line AA game and I’m tired of pretending it’s not 😤
I think this is the only ace attorney game where the first game is the best case. That’s not just cause the rest of the cases aren’t great(god I hate turnabout serenade) but because this is a fantasy case in its own right
"The previous case was the best in the series"
Farewell, My Turnabout: 👁👄👁
i mean that was a good case but it was so predictable imo
Morgan fey case too was great
great video, but you didnt need to spoil the Mia thing! that was a pretty big reveal!
I agree I am foolish I mentioned spoiler for Apollo but not the originals
Wow this video was very good
Love Shu Takumi's writing, even tho the finale for apollo justice was kinda bad
I WILL BE THE FIRST ONE TO DISLIKE
HAHAHAHAHA
Too bad the writing in Serenade is... bad
I agree and yet I will find a way to defend it, get your comment ready!
Sorry, hated this game and case
I disagree with you. Yes the game has some great writing but I didn't liked it overall because: they misrepresented Phonix character.
No they didn't, the point is he is acting like that in order for Kristoph to not suspect anything so he can get the jump on him and convict him. Phoniex is only letting people see what he wants them to see.
@@emptyvending8964 The fact that he wasn't suspicious about a little 9 or 10 year old girl giving him evidence from a mysterious person already was out of character for Phoenix. Maybe he would take the bullet if we talk about early game 1 Phoenix Wright but with all of his experience and how masterminded he got Godot at the end of the Trilogy... You see someone else wrote the story. If you see the story writer yes the original Trilogy and the Apollo Justice game are written from 2 different persons I think the guy who wrote Apollo Justice also write the story of Great Ace Attorney. To be honest The Great Ace Attorney is much much better written compared to Apollo Justice. I think the problem is that the writer first didn't wanted to continue the story of Phoenix buzt Capcom was like NO put Phoenix for the MONEY... So the story writer of Apollo Justice was forced to change his story. If you don't believe me Google exists. I think the story would be better without Phoenix I like Phoenix a LOT but because of that Apollo's character wasn't flashed out and really one dimensional thanks God Dual Destinies and Spirit of Justice changed that and Apollo got more character development more backstory... He is at the end now a well made character. Athena was well made day 1 the first game good backstory, original character behavior, great animations and design... I think they also fixed Phoenix character in Dual Destinies and Spirit of Justice a lot. I don't think Apollo Justice is bad bad but is the only game what stands out I don't like it most people don't like it as well... It has some decent cases but the end villain was mehhhh, Apollo as a character was mehhhh (he later on in later games got improved) and they miss represented Phoenix as a character.
@@strohhuttv8848 So I agree on the card thing, I have no idea why Phoniex would've done that, was really out of character. Honestly Phoniex in the flashback feels out of character as a whole. Regardless, the deadbeat version of Phoniex is different from how we've seen him before but it works, he has this air on chillness aroud him but a lot of what he says breaks that air sometimes. I like his more mentor role and I think that whether he was gonna be in the game originally or not it did a decent amount for his character, mainly because of Trucy, him raising a daughter was an unexcepted twist for his character and their father-daughter relationship with the few interactions they have is nice. I think Apollo was great, his animations were more lively and expressive than most other characters in the series and his design brought a lot of fun to him, I think he misses a defining trait but for a protag written by a first timer....not bad. Now if we are gonna talk about a stand out bad Ace Attorney game, Dual Destines. Ruined the franchise and turned the story a way it shouldn't have gone, also the 3d models look like trash and......ugh. I guess we could argue about that if you want since you seem to like it
@@emptyvending8964 Yes he should have questioned why did I got that important piece of evidence, who gave me that piece of evidence, how did that person obtain such a piece of evidence... Is a crime scene obtaining such a piece of evidence is not easy and only few people could obtain it. He should have questioned the evidence more befor presenting it. I agree that Phoenix as a mentor is a great representation but he also wasn't really that mentor figure he was a better mentor later on... I think his best role is when we play half of time with him and half of time with Apollo or Athena. I liked Dual Destinies and I disagree that it is thr worst game. Simon Blackquill is one of my favorite prosecutors together with Edgeworth and Godot those are my top 3 I would say place 1 is Godot place 2 is Simon and place 3 is Edgeworth for me atleast. I enjoyed the new character Athena a lot and her character was better introduced and had more backstory and a better overall representation than Apollo at first (I say at first because how I said before later on they flashed out Apollo as a character more). I mean although Dual Destinies was focused mostly on Athena and Simon and I love both characters the game is called Dual Destinies for a reason the destiny of 2 important characters and tehy backstory and how they are conected... Even then Apollo and Phoenix got some spot light to shine. I mean is great how the game included some Apollo backstory with his best friend with Athena's backstory and how Apollo had good character development at the end when he started to trust Athena again after his mind was cleared up by Phoenix. I personally put Dual Destinies was above Apollo Justice. The only problem I had with Dual Destinies is that some villains did crimes without really a big reason... For example the guy from the second case the Yokai guy. Why did he do the crime? I mean he already put sleeping pills and they slept really really deep there was no reason of committing murder if you ONLY wanted to steal the treasure for money. The school villain made kinda sense why he did the crime I personally LOVED the last case what is basically case 4 and 5 is one big case with a great plot twist. I see some problems with Dual Destinies the cases are well amde the Villains lack some motives other than that I love Dual Destinies and for me (for me I need to point out) that game is way above Apollo Justice. I think Apple Justice would have been a better game if there was no Phonix Wright at all from the beginning and that we got more character background and character development from Apollo with a better final villain. I think they fixed many mistakes in Apollo Justice with Dual Destinies and Spirit of Justice I also liked Spirit of Justice. When it comes to the 3D models I don't think they are bad of course the 3DS had some limitations what they fixed with Great Ace Attorney (well 30fps sucks but on PC you can get 60fps with cheat engine on the Chronicles game from Steam) also I think Dual Destinies had decent 3D character models the only ugly model from Dual Destinies is Trucy but Spirit of Justice Trucy model looks MUCH better. Compare Dual Destinies Trucy and Spirit of Justice you will see other than that one 3D model all others look decent in my opinion.
@@emptyvending8964 Apollo Justice also had one case what didn't make sense like Dual Destinies with the Yokai case. In Apollo Justice that would be the I think 3rd case if I remember correctly the some child and the singing star from that other land. The murder took the 45 caliber gun from a Interpol Agent... That 45 caliber is hard to handle even police officers with experience in gun's get dislocated shoulders from using them... And a small what was it 10 or something years (I don't remember the age) old child was the culprit? ARE YOU SERIOUS... We only needed present that logical conclusion and the accused should be NOT guilty end of story.
Apollo Justice ruined the storyline.
huh
how exactly?
I feel like they should've either went fully with the Apollo rookie route then only giving him half and half. Phoenix could've became a mentor like Mia and probably could diverge into more interesting character changes. This wasn't a bad game, it's the lack of ambition to go fully forward the ace attorney series without Phoenix as lead and it made games like dual destinies and spirit of justice a little lifeless. In my opinion.
For me it’s the fact that Phoenix got disbarred, along with the about 5-7 year gap in between AA3 and 4 (which meant limited returning characters). Also, Phoenix kind of has a new personality in AJ, but he kind of becomes his “old self” in Dual Destinies again which doesn’t make sense.
I'd argue it's the opposite. Phoenix shouldn't have been in the game as his role in the game continues to detract from our new characters and keep the player thinking about him and what happened. It doesn't leave enough room to learn who Apollo is and what his role is in the story. That's not Apollo's fault. It's the writers for wasting time by creating a complicated disbarment plot that doesn't have anything to do with the new protagonist. Capcom and by extension the fanbase needed to embrace the fact that Phoenix doesn't need to be the protagonist. It's one of the reasons why Duel Destinies and Spirit of Justice are so stagnant and lacking any improvement while the TGA flourishes.