Hyundai N car tech explained with i20N, i30N, Kona N, i30 Sedan N
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- #hyundaiN #i30N #i20N #KonaN #nperformance #e-lsd #ElantraN
Talking to Hyundai's tech expert Geoff Fear on about the Hyundai N-car range and what makes them different from the base cars; i20N, i30N, i30 Sedan N (Elantra N) and Kona N. Here's what we cover:
00:00 introduction
00:35 torque steer
02:23 chassis stiffening
03:37 engine changes
04:46 electronic stability control (ESC)
05:34 brake override
06:49 brakes
09:07 tyres
10:00 front diff E-LSD
13:43 suspension
14:59 overboost
16:00 suspension
17:14 summary
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Nice thanks for this. I am owner of Elantra N (i think you guys call it i30n sedan over there) here in North America and I wish there were more contents on technical aspects of our N cars. Like videos of factory tours, or just explanation like how you did (just like how Honda civic type R has so much more contents), which would make these cars even more special to us owners.
Hi yes the Elantra N is the same as the Sedan N. Thanks for the comment, and I made this video because a) there actually IS a lot of good tech to talk about, and b) I knew enthuasist owners would appreciate it, and even those who don't own Hyundais but are interested in how cars work. No point doing a tech video on a Camry for example, those owners don't care how many or which wheels are driven. Hyundai doesn't have the performance heritage of Honda, but it'll catch up! And, please share!
Jeah i totally know what you mean. Or maybe Problems with technical know hows If you have questions to your local Hyundai Dealer. I asked for my i20N which oil i have to buy. They didnt had an answer, must figure it Out on myself. Would be great to have more Support. :)
It's hard for dealers to adjust to enthusiast buyers who know a lot about their cars, and care for them! I don't know how Hyundai is going in this regard though, interested to hear.
best N tech content youtube has to offer 👍🏼
Thanks, please share!
Truly valuable and informative conversation - I just got a KN here in the US, and I think I might be driving the best car of my life so far. I feel like I'm ready for WRC3!
Thank you would much appreciate a share 😁👍
Great piece, much appreciated. Loving my Elantra N as a daily driver, and amazed at what it can do on the track!
Thanks please share! And check this out... ruclips.net/video/73IJCgFaFKQ/видео.html
Awesome video, very informative!
Glad it was helpful! Please share!
Great content as always. Thanks for making this one. Cheers
My pleasure!
Thank you for the technical info! You would think more would be available on the R&D of these cars but have been having a hard time finding anything so thank you again
Glad to help! Would appreciate a share of this video :-)
Robert, thank you, this answers what is special about the Kona N much more in depth than I could have. My teen son is learning how to drive on this car, good that he knows what he is driving.
Thanks Steve, please share!
Excellent video Gents! 💯
Appreciate it!! Please share so the effort we put in is worthwhile!
Great video. I didn't realize the kona had the brake ducts setup like this. I live in the mountains and constantly warping rotors so anything helps.
Glad I could help! BTW the 'warping' rotos is a myth. Brakepads cannot produce anything like enough heat to warp cast iron. What actually happens is that the hot pads leave an tiny, invisible residue on the rotor, which then manifests as a vibration when braking. So, when you've finished a track session, never use the parkbrake and it's not a bad idea to minimise brake use when you're back in the pits so the pads don't press against the rotors when hot. N cars have a Creep Function which can be used for that, not sure if that was the intent, but it's certainly a great idea! Autos can be left in park, manuals in neutral then in 1st gear with engine off. If you do 'warp' your rotors you'll need to remove then and machine them to get the residue off.
It's awesome to hear this from the tech, great review. I wish he covered how the exhaust note works between settings on the i30N
Thanks, please share! Ran out of time to do the exhaust sorry.
Love my Kona N car! ❤️👍👌👏😇
"N" for nuts! Thanks Robert, I don't think I could have ever gotten the low down on the Kona N at that level of detail - straight from the horses mouth (sorry Geoff!).
Very interesting about adding more spot welding to stiffen the chassis (along with extra bracing). I wonder if you can talk about how that works at some point Robert? Intuitively I can see that added spot welds increases rigidity, but not sure what the mechanism is.
Don't know about Hyundai specifically, but generally more welding along a join = stiffer chassis. I think it'd be something called seam welding which is adding extra welds in strategic places on the chassis, usually around the stress points such as suspension mounts. The reason this isn't done normally is because of cost/time. When you produce volumes in the car world which are many tens if not hundreds of thousands, then every cent you save adds up. This is why carmakers skimp on things to save say $0.10 which means a saving of $50k across a 0.5m production run. The aftermarket tends not to do this as much as their volumes are much lower, and they need a differentiator. But then we're into OEM vs aftermarket..a new discussion! Anyway stiffening the chassis is a great idea, and there are also struts in N cars to help. Actual functional struts, not shiny bits of hardparking metal. Geoff is a true car racer (this is important) as well as a tech guy so I'm sure he's been called lots of things worse than a horse :-)
Good information
Thank you, please share :-)
Anyone else wish they would've just let the tech guy dive into the details he was sharing? I felt like the other guy would cut him off just when he was getting to the good stuff. I get he wanted to keep things simplified, but that nitty gritty breakdown was GOLD! Would've been great to do a Q&A and just let the tech go at it.
Actually it's not so much simplifed as speed. The video is already quite long, and there's a choice between going into a lot of depth on 2-3 subjects, or covering them all at a higher level. That is why I kept quickly summarising and moving on, because I had clock going to see the time. It would be possible to do 2 hours on brakes alone!
@@L2SFBC makes sense! I was just really enjoying the deets! Thanks for the video!!
Thanks for your comments George, appreciated, and please share the video :-)
Re brake pads NexD in Germany the owner of the company did the development for the N cars especially i30n
Good to know thanks!
Wow. This is a fantastic work! Kudos Hyundai! More happy than ever of having my Kona N.
Glad you like it! Please share :-)
How soon the Veloster N is gone and forgotten. 2020 R&T PCOTY and you could not cancel it quick enough.
I didn't cancel it!
I love the design for the most part but it's still an SUV/CUV, why skimp on rear a/c vents, power seats both sides, memory seats/wheel/mirrors, wireless carplay, full HD surround cameras, power folding mirrors that also turn down when in reverse, smart cruz control, puddle lights, projector based LED headlights, etc?
Because the $ went into performance engineering not luxury.
@@L2SFBC They are using a car model that is already out so they save on tooling and such, not even offering upgrade options seems short sighted. The lower tier N line has SCC and this doesn't best I can tell, why gimp that? Wireless Carplay is something also offered but gone here. Power folding mirrors not in US, etc. I own this car BTW.
@@L2SFBC I should also point out I'm currently trying to figure out why FCA seems like it would do little to nothing on the N and I believe it might be because its missing the radar which is also used for SCC. If this is true that they removed radar and are relying on the camera only for FCA, that is one hell of a mistake. I hope I'm wrong.
Part of the reason could be leaving something in reserve for an easy facelift after 1-3 years.
@@L2SFBC it pains me to say you are probably right. I thought maybe supply issues but I wish I knew the true answer. It hurts as I’m really liking the car overall.
So why hasn't one of there "N" cars been able to go faster than the hyundai genesis coupe 3.8
What do you mean?
The N line so far can't beat the Hyundai Genesis coupe 3.8
@@mikeredline27around a track?
They didn't combat shit lol torque steers just the same as my mom's super charged Pontiac grand prix lol
I'd be interested to drive your mother's Pontiac, and why you think the N car torque steer. It's not as pure as a rear-drive car, but it's definitely well sorted - you can see in the video an example of actual torque steer on a 'sports' car vs the i30 N.
Obvious you never drove any N cars. I owned a Pontiac Grand Prix. Don’t be an idiot.
@@JohnLee-db9zt Obviously you haven't watched any of Mr. Pepper's other videos, wherein he drives all of the various N cars on the track, offers ample POV footage, and discusses the attributes and compromises of each. He is certainly no idiot. And, back in the day, my family car was a '64 Grand Prix with a 389 cid Trophy V-8 engine, Tri-Power carburetors and 3-speed Turbo Hydramatic transmission, so there's that.
@@ronforeman2556 numb nut, I was talking to the OP. And I don’t care what your daddy says. I’ve trendy all N cars and they have mild torque steer which is useful in track driving.
OK mate 👍🏽👌🏽
It’s pronounced heeun-deh not hai-un-dye buddy
sohry Ben
In Australia we say Hai-un-dye. Same thing with the word Adidas pronounced overseas
Soo-bar-ru or Suba-roo? Niss-an or Neee-san?
@@Michael-qo6jt we also say hyun day sooo it probably depends on the person and if they get it right
Marzda or Mazda. We say it like it's spelled, here in Australia. We have aluminium, solder not aloominum or sarder. And we say thank you not theeenk yeew.