Or by luck.. I'm sure luck results in lots of succes, when things are "strange". Fx fishing - "I" know eveything, so I fish with the exact right bait, colour, depth aso - then the novice trys to do the same, but can't controln anything, so fishes the wrong depth, with the most of the bait bit away by minnows or crabs, and all of a suddon things fit the "strange" conditions of the moment - wupteeee..
When I was 12(1964), my neighbor had a panhead that he rode. I watched him start it all the time. I jokingly asked him to let me ride it and he retorted with, "If you can start it, you can ride it." I smiled and took a minute, then fired it up. The look on his face was priceless! I explained that I'd watched him for weeks starting it and knew the procedure. I also told him I knew it was too much bike for me to ride. It was fun being a kid in the '60's!
I've a '42 WLC Navy spec.. Wish I came across this chance, so easy it's just a routine and starting it warm is also different then the cold start. Driving this thing is absolute pleasure. Learned to drive and work on it around my 16 y/o, now been doing it for 10 years already!
It was really painful watching these folks pound away at the kick lever.... you are a brave man! No way I could let anyone beat up my motorcycle like that. I weep for that kick start pedal.
Thanks for the opportunity. It was awesome meeting you guys. I just want to say logic goes out the window when your suddenly infront of 2 cameras and people you only know from RUclips
I know right! Lol 😂. That's the literal definition of insanity-doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result. I'm sitting here almost screaming at my phone.
My friend Nick had a 74 shovelhead, I was experienced. Dirt bikes, a couple crotch rockets, he said if I could kick it over I could take it for a ride. I couldn’t. Nick showed me a couple tricks, kicked it on, and said go ahead. My first time riding a Harley, I was very surprised at the weight, but how easy it was to handle. Thanks Nick, miss you buddy, RIP.
I've never had a Harley but I've had a lot of vintage bikes and from the first few minutes I knew nobody picked up on the ignition not being on. I got so many laughs from this. Thank you.
petty sure this has a manual ignition timing advance on the left grip and you have to advance the timing for startup then return it to normal once running
@Rob-A-Dob64 that sounds about right. I know a lot of English bikes had something like that. I know James motorcycles had a manual advance. Most of my bikes were 60's to mid 70's.
I think this could be better if the money amount was a bit lower... $1,000 makes people a bit sketched out imo. Also, doing it in a random parking lot with a sign that I couldn't see 20 feet away doesn't help 😂 love the video concept though and hopefully you guys do more of things like this.
We can't believe that just by chance we went to bass pro the day you were there and luckily won! So thankful for your generosity!! And glad I convince him to try lol
Damn you won then and now the bots have selected you to try to scam too you are super lucky 😂 just don't do anything the comment above me says or they will end up owning your house and stealing your kids social security number to get loans for another house too
I had a Very heavily-modded Sr500 single , nearly a full-race-engine . I told guys they could have it if they could start-it . Even guys with big-single knowledge couldn't do it , timing-levers-aside , it was the exact-same procedure as starting a BSA Gold-star race-bike or Manx-Norton-single . If you even rested your hand on the throttle, it wouldn't start . If it didn't start in 3-kicks, you had to 'un-flood' the motor and start again . When it started, people would recoil-backwards , it really Roared ! Dave NZ
I mean to be fair theres no electric start so being kicked alot is kinda its whole reason for existing. Things weren't built shitty back then like they are now.
@justauser I don't think he used the right word. I think, basically what he probably meant was...they don't make em like they use to. As modern motorcycles, cars, etc are made with many Chinese/Mexican sourced electrical components like failing sensors galore for example. Even the branded Harley oil filters have degraded substantially from 1991-present.
1-Put the transmission in 2nd gear 2-Hold in the clutch 3-Make sure gas and choke (or distributor) are in correct position 4- Make sure key is on. 5- Position kickstart into highest compression. 6- then kick start it. twice if necessary. Don't forget to prime it if it's been sitting a while.
@@flamelacacio8150 No, you don't have to, it is just easier to turn over the engine in 2nd gear. Doesn't kick back as hard at your leg. Not a requirement though. If you are having trouble in neutral, try it. Worked for me on some days. A good spark is key.
@@janosistvan5226 thanks for the reply, it was just curiosity since I'd never heard about this technique. I've had a couple kick start bikes but newer ones, anyway if I need to start an oldie someday, I'll remember this advice. Thank you!
@@flamelacacio8150 Sure happy to oblige. It's funny I had a 1971 Honda 450 CB that never started with the electric start, and I had to kick start it always. Come to find out when I put a new battery in, it started right up and ran better too always. I think the old point type distributers made a difference in how Harleys started. Electrical contact or timing had to be just right. Some Triumphs with points, when the humidity was high outside you had to wipe between the points with a matchbook cover to get it dry enough to fire. Different bikes = different characteristics. Newer technology is much more reliable nowadays until it breaks then it's expensive.
Used to have an old dirt bike with a similar start-up process and had a flip switch ignition. Fuel tap on, 3 prime kicks choke full, half choke 1 huge kick, leg snapper kick start all with quarter throttle, on fireup open throttle to full. Plenty bruised shins, but by far the most fun I've ever had
I built a Cafe' racer with a 140cc piranha engine. The compression on that engine is insane. When kickstarting Quality over quantity is the secret... and a hand over the air intake helps. If you attempt to kick it without giving it all you got, its coming back at you. It hurts really bad. Once its running, its a beast. Roll starting isn't an option, it will not roll start no matter what gear you are in.
I had a cb550 for a while and i dont know if those are prone to vicious kickbacks but it caught me a good 2 times and each time it felt like it broke my shin in half lol!
It also helps if you get it to go just past TDC and then let the kicker return up. Then give her a really good kick. Usually won’t get kick back with that method.
@@mmaaddict78 Trust me, if it were that easy, I would do it. I just do as per instructions that came with it. The company that sells them told me the kickstarter will break off eventually, and it did. After welding it together its no longer an issue. That is the only real gripe I have about the engine, that and all 4 gears are up. That can be annoying sometimes when not paying attention.
Happy New year to you all (not Dan) from across the pond! Was everyone else wincing as much as me with that poor kick start lever? Look forward to more new content guys, keep up the good work!
ChatGpt response is : Starting a vintage motorcycle like the Harley Davidson WLC 1942 Navy spec requires a bit of knowledge and patience. Here are the steps you can follow: Check the Fuel and Oil Levels: Make sure the motorcycle has enough fuel and oil. The oil should be checked by removing the oil tank dipstick, and the fuel should be checked by looking inside the fuel tank. Turn on the Ignition: Locate the ignition switch, usually located on the right-hand side of the motorcycle's frame. Turn the switch to the "on" position. Set the Choke: Locate the choke lever on the left-hand side of the motorcycle's handlebar. Set the choke to the "on" position to provide a richer fuel-air mixture for starting. Prime the Carburetor: On the left-hand side of the carburetor, there is a small lever called a tickler. Press it down to prime the carburetor with fuel. Kickstart the Engine: Move the kickstart lever into position and kick down with a smooth and firm motion. You may need to repeat this process several times until the engine starts. It take 40s to ask and read, rest 4mn20s to test !
Note to self if I see Sean And Craig in a parking lot offering $1000 to start an old Harley, watch wheels through time video before I try to start an old Harley 😁
@@craigbannister7826 yep , that's actually the one thing i kew , but I knew there was an order , I have watched wheels through time . Lol and are you "Craig" from B&B ?
I think people didn't want to participate mostly because they were afraid to drop that bike while starting it. Especially if someone's not used to sitting on motorcycles. Maybe a backwheel stand to stabilize the bike would help get confidence.
With all the turmoil in the States since 2020, it's great to see a video like this appear every now and then. Good work and keep the good vibes coming. From Sydney Aus.
I steal bikes for a living and have always struggled getting these bikes to start......but now with your fine video I'm sure I'll strive in my craft......Thanks BikesandBeards!! 🤣🤣
I did something simular with a buddy of mine. I fly small airplanes as a hobby, and I asked him if he would figure out how to start it (it's a Cessna 172, just a normal piston engine propeller plane). He's a mechanic, so he knows a lot about motors. It took him some minutes, but he eventually fired it up. What do you need to start an engine? Battery/power, fuel flow, mixture control, ignition/spark and throttle to keep the engine running. And usually in that order. It was very much fun for me to see him figuring out. Like the very first thing he said was "alright, so wheres the battery switch?".
I've never driven anything in my nearly 40 years (no licenses of any sort), and I think my first instinct would be to examine the area where the fuel switch is to see if there's a button or something. Not saying I'd have figured out the rest, though, but the fuel switch probably wouldn't have eluded me.
I was thinking the whole time that it had to have an ignition switch. But everyone did get the choke, fuel then kick. Just one of those things that everyone has gotten used to in this day and age of ease of use. There used to be ignition switches haha good video though it was fun!
I have no idea why people think tried to start this bike would do it without switching ignition ON.Also bringing engine to compression moment. I am not familiar with Harleys but principle stays the same.Some bikes have decompression lever you need to release after the kick or some bikes you change ingnition timing.
LOL...I had a 53 panhead and would tell people they could have it if they could start it..! Nobody could start it. I could start it on the 2nd kick every time
The emotion in your voice is so relatable man…. I got into two accidents driving my classic truck (other drivers fault, both times) and I sounded the exact same
Been Brazilian, U$ 1,000 is waaaay more money to me than it should. Now knowing how to start the bike, I wish I was in that parking, that day, with this knowledge hahahahah
Yo Sean… too bad I wasn‘t around. I had my first flatty 45 when I was 27, the next one 10 years ago… would‘ve been easy money! Great idea, keep on doin‘ stuff like this. Peace.
Sitting here LMAO because my 72 Shovelhead is still kick only. But since 1986 was the last year Harley sold a bike with a kicker I guess it's not surprising that few folks, even Harley techs, know how to use one, especially on a bike with a manual advance system. Well since the bike is likely flooded after those folks kept kicking it I'd first turn the key and gas off, open the throttle all the way, and kick it half a dozen times to clear out the heads. Then gas on - key off - two or three kicks with choke fully engaged - stop. Next - gas on - key on - 1/4-1/2 choke - spark fully advanced - throttle 1/2-/3/4 open - kick. Low compression engine should start with 1 to 4 kicks. If not stop and repeat process. Nice bike. The Flatheads, small and large, were always favorites but my all time favorite are the 1928 JD and JDH models.
Man. Seeing you guys do all this cool local stuff only makes me hate living in CA more than I do already. And that amount increasing even a smidgen more should break math!
This video brought back a funny memory. I was not a Harley rider, but a Jap bike rider instead, but I had a number of aquantences who rode Harleys and the common consensus was that some of them could be hard to start especially the Sportsters. I was considering buying a used sportster once and when I got to the guys house he said there might be some trouble getting it started. He kicked it and kicked it, taking rests and making adjustments in between. He finally changed the spark plugs and got it started and running. After that it was fine. I took it for a test ride and really enjoyed the bike, but in the end I decided not to buy it. I was spoiled by how easily my big Jap road bikes started and how reliable they were compared to the Harleys. I've always had a love for the Harleys, but from a distance. Nope, I don't want to own one. The same goes for the finicky Brit bikes. They are very cool to me, but not to own, or rely on.
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Wow, what a trip! I remember one time my nephew, my brother and I went to see a 1950 Panhead here in Southern California. The guy thought he was a real old-school biker, and wanting to sound tough, he said “if you could start it you can test ride it” He went in his house and came back running when he heard the bike galloping. I kick started it with the second try. He didn’t know I had been riding since the 80s. We ended up buying the bike and like a full we sold it 2 Years later way before they went up in value. We did make about 7k on it so can’t complain.
Why? I'd take that offer to mean something was done to it that any motorcycle mechanic probably wouldn't think of to make it impossible to start without undoing it. Edit: Nevermind. The former part of this comment was posted while watching a preroll ad.
Most people are scared of failure, wspecially in public. Irl most people eny and look up to us that dare.. " Who dares wins" - actually usually even when they don't win - in the long run, they do..
If he'd set up in Tractor Supply or Ingles parking lot in North Georgia there'd be a line of contestants in 5 minutes. We're friendly, chatty and just not intimidated by two bearded yankee hipsters with a videographer....however somebody we knew would have to hold the 1000.
Yeah people just don't know how to mind their own damn business. And it's usually done out of spite literally no reason at all. When I see something like this going down, I look, give a lil laugh and head on hoping them boys have a good time in Free America.
@@SlimTony on a good day the former but now in the winter I would say both. But I digress, if you know the proper procedure most of them start by the 2nd or 3rd kick
For the whole time I was wonering "Does they turned on the ignition?" and when I found out that they didn't I had only one question "Do you ever started SOMETHING that has any engine?" because you can do whatever you want but 2 basic things must be done. Open fuel valve and turn on the ignition, you can also choke it but that depends on the engine, if you have those 2 things done you will start it eventually.
When I was 17, weighting 120 lbs, I had no problem starting my 750 flathead. 60 years later, I'm not sure I could. From my year as a dispatch rider I learned that the most important thing about a military bike is easy starting.
LOVE this channel and am very impressed with the depth of knowledge and talent from both Sean and Craig. Also a little jealous of both beards and bike collection lol IF I was lucky enough to see this in a parking lot somewhere, I would first ask if instead of the $1,000, I could ride it, within sight of course, say around the parking lot for 10 minutes, am fully insured and legal. I realize what a museum piece this is and know the work you have done on this BEAUTIFUL bike. I actually knew the order of and how to start this bike as I watched a part of our group do it to his WLA back in the day. My son and I would consider it an honor to ride with you guys, if you ever make it to the gorgeous PNW.
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I once helped a guy push start his car on a parking lot. The dude barely spoke my language but was very grateful. It didn't take money to do it. That being said, everyone else was wary of this guy for some reason. I can't know for sure but I guess people are just overly cautious these days.
I love your videos. They always put me into a Great Mood. I’m always looking forward to your New Content. Funny thing is, it didn’t start out that way. There was a time I kinda hated it 😂 . Great Content keep up the Awesome Work.
Wish I'd of walked through that lot. In 1969 my first Harley was a '45 WLA. I'm 72 and can still start one easily. Old bikes confuse the hell out of late model bikers.
Left side twist to advance spark…. If it has a pumper… twist tight side twice…. Choke on…. Move kick starter slowly and find TOP of compression stroke…. Jump straight up… come straight down….and DO NOT come out of the bottom until AFTER the engine is RUNNING…or completely stopped popping
Getting ready to buy my first motorcycle and came across this channel. I can’t believe I never knew this channel existed when I’m right next door in York 😂 hopefully you guys will get some inventory soon so I can buy a bike off you!
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I like how my father's friend deal with engine. He said, "Engine is basically fire, you need fuel and spark to light it up, as long as there is fuel and spark, it will lit. The problem inside the engine is another matter, it may not run smooth, but it will still run regardless." And he hates modern engine with all unnecessary systems that made it more troublesome to tinker with the engine. I know nothing about engines, but I always hold on what he said whenever my bike or car doesn't lit.
My first road bike was a 1950 FL Hydro glide. It WAS NOT low compression and came in 4 boxes when I bought it at 17 years old. I loved watching my friends try and start it because they would miss the compression stroke and get launched. The stroker kit didn't make it any easier haha.
Before watching this, here is my comment. One of my friend has a similar kind of military bike(not one from this company).. it's an old 500cc bike. kick start only. You can't just kick start it straight away. There is one pressure gauge on it, which moves left or right when you kick the starter. The trick to start it is, You have to kick the starter half way like an air pump several times. That will make the needle on the pressure gauge point straight up. It will stay there for few seconds, at that time give the kicker a full kick.. The bike engine will start. Without doing that pumping at the beginning, it is near impossible to start.
Another option why not too many people joined might be that not everyone wants to be in the spotlight, let alone in a video that will be online for .. forever?
I'm not familiar with HD bikes but my old 500cc single Norton back in the day was a fun bike to start. I could start it first time every time because I knew how to turn on the fuel and tickle the carb, set the choke and valve lifter then get the piston to TDC before kicking it. No problem. I'd have loved to have a go at starting that thing.
My father had 1972 yezde. After my dad leaves out we quickly turn on the TV, and we turn off before he comes back cause we can hear the SOUND LIKE 2 STREETS away. Anyways, it's an amazing video.
Reminds me of my old ‘65 Sporty with a Linkert carb and magneto. I had to kick once while holding the choke closed, then turn the ignition on, open the choke, and give it a hearty kick and off we went!
I got the love of motorcycles due to my Pops. I was his passenger from early infant to about 7 years old and then on and off if I wanted to ride with him. When I bought my first Harley, a 57 FL Panhead and that thing was tricky to start. You had to know how or be sent over the handle bars. It had been boosted to over 1200cc and there was no electric start. While visiting him with my bike, he asked me if he could borrow it and I told him he could if he knew how to start it. Old man went outside, kicked it twice, cranked just before TDC then turned it on. With a swift downward kick, the dragon came to life. He never told me how he knew to start Pans . He was laughing at me all the time. He went off for a ride and where I live, you can hear everything and see where the main road passes in the distance. He could be heard throughout the village and passed that straightway visible from their house, like a bat out of hell!! My mom was NOT impressed with him since not having ridden a bike for over 15 years. He simply replied, "riding a motorcycle, is like the first time you get laid. You NEVER forget!" ☺ I nearly pissed myself laughing cause mom was even more furious and Pops laughing while stroking his beard!
I don't have a motorcycle (Had a Yamaha DT125 trail once many years ago) But my father taught auto mechanics for 26 years in the vocational system. Back then (1960s-70s) Plymouth had a national troubleshooting contest for high school students and his students always won or scored high every year. From a little school system in West Virginia! But one basic he taught them. An internal combustion engine needs three things to run. Fuel, Air, And Spark. So that's where you start always. Sounds like most of them forgot the spark!
The people I would expect to complete this challenge are either over 80 years old, mechanics interested in history, or wealthy collectors of antique vehicles. Imagine a rich guy like Jay Leno who owns bikes like this, starting it on the first try and taking the $1000.
fun part, i saw the bike, and my first imagine was, do you have to put the seat down ? like on a mowing machine ? because i know bikes have different ways to start, and when someone gave 1k bugs for it, you have to check, basic stuff. Shoke / Fuel buttom / starter and a "Safety seat". But yeah, i dont have a license too :P
I love that guy who managed to start it but has never ridden a bike. Just shows what you can achieve if you approach things logically!
Or by luck.. I'm sure luck results in lots of succes, when things are "strange". Fx fishing - "I" know eveything, so I fish with the exact right bait, colour, depth aso - then the novice trys to do the same, but can't controln anything, so fishes the wrong depth, with the most of the bait bit away by minnows or crabs, and all of a suddon things fit the "strange" conditions of the moment - wupteeee..
It's all logical my dear Spock
Did he even use the timing retarder on the left grip? I couldn’t tell.
I'm sure a sys admin or electrician who never rode a bike could start it, those guys can diagnose quick.
@@MiGujack3 As a programmer with a tiny bit of mechanical experience but no two-wheel experience, I'd probably be able to debug it.
When I was 12(1964), my neighbor had a panhead that he rode. I watched him start it all the time. I jokingly asked him to let me ride it and he retorted with, "If you can start it, you can ride it." I smiled and took a minute, then fired it up. The look on his face was priceless! I explained that I'd watched him for weeks starting it and knew the procedure. I also told him I knew it was too much bike for me to ride. It was fun being a kid in the '60's!
im 33 now and i still think my dads harley is too much for me
Great comment! 👏👏😁😁
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how was it to hang out with Jesus and dinosaurs back when you were a young man 😂😂😂
Really awesome story that you shared!
I've a '42 WLC Navy spec.. Wish I came across this chance, so easy it's just a routine and starting it warm is also different then the cold start. Driving this thing is absolute pleasure. Learned to drive and work on it around my 16 y/o, now been doing it for 10 years already!
I would have offered Craig $250 to tell me how to do it. A play definitely out of Sean's playbook.
Love it 😁
I'm surprised someone didn't google it
Awesome 😂
@@randall1959 You tube!
Ooooooooohh!!!!!!! I was coming to write the same... Split 500 with Vraig to tell me how to start
It was really painful watching these folks pound away at the kick lever.... you are a brave man! No way I could let anyone beat up my motorcycle like that. I weep for that kick start pedal.
Same.
Exactly what I was thinking
One dude almost dropped it also
3.2m views thats not a problem
true
Just the fact that he goes out and gives people the chance, makes him one of the coolest guys around. Spreading Christmas cheer. I love this channel.
I was the guy in the red (oxblood) jacket. Had a blast meeting you guys, and the contest was great fun as well. God bless, and Happy New Year!
That’s a damn fine jacket.
@@GreatEgret Thanks; I love it. It's the Joe Rocket Richmond, though sadly I believe it's been discontinued.
Hey it was great meeting you also.
That’s so cool man. From text line to harley to meeting these guys back to RUclips video this is crazy world
It was a solid attempt.
Thanks for the opportunity. It was awesome meeting you guys. I just want to say logic goes out the window when your suddenly infront of 2 cameras and people you only know from RUclips
It was driving me crazy watching people kick it for 5 minutes straight and expecting it to change the outcome 😂
I was cringing the whole time
If it made a sound, I would've maybe understood it but it didn't do squat.
I mean it happens with like any lawn mower at some point. Not that insane
I know right! Lol 😂. That's the literal definition of insanity-doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result.
I'm sitting here almost screaming at my phone.
@@payton-xi8gq Its Einstein's definition of iinsanity
My friend Nick had a 74 shovelhead, I was experienced. Dirt bikes, a couple crotch rockets, he said if I could kick it over I could take it for a ride. I couldn’t. Nick showed me a couple tricks, kicked it on, and said go ahead. My first time riding a Harley, I was very surprised at the weight, but how easy it was to handle. Thanks Nick, miss you buddy, RIP.
I've never had a Harley but I've had a lot of vintage bikes and from the first few minutes I knew nobody picked up on the ignition not being on. I got so many laughs from this. Thank you.
An Harley...
@@chrismay2298 Checks out.
petty sure this has a manual ignition timing advance on the left grip and you have to advance the timing for startup then return it to normal once running
@Rob-A-Dob64 that sounds about right. I know a lot of English bikes had something like that. I know James motorcycles had a manual advance. Most of my bikes were 60's to mid 70's.
@Chris May didn't catch the auto error.
I think this could be better if the money amount was a bit lower... $1,000 makes people a bit sketched out imo. Also, doing it in a random parking lot with a sign that I couldn't see 20 feet away doesn't help 😂 love the video concept though and hopefully you guys do more of things like this.
We can't believe that just by chance we went to bass pro the day you were there and luckily won! So thankful for your generosity!! And glad I convince him to try lol
Damn you won then and now the bots have selected you to try to scam too you are super lucky 😂 just don't do anything the comment above me says or they will end up owning your house and stealing your kids social security number to get loans for another house too
You guys googled it first dont lie
I like your content. You don't destroy things, and you do things that financially many viewers could do, so its relatable.
Yes sir, I can 100 percent financially afford to give people $1000 to start a motorcycle.. 🤦♂️
Yeah, everyone pays strangers $1000 to start their vehicles
He destroys stuff all the time lol
motorcycles from Amazon?
So you don’t like WhistlinDiesel
I had a Very heavily-modded Sr500 single , nearly a full-race-engine . I told guys they could have it if they could start-it . Even guys with big-single knowledge couldn't do it , timing-levers-aside , it was the exact-same procedure as starting a BSA Gold-star race-bike or Manx-Norton-single . If you even rested your hand on the throttle, it wouldn't start . If it didn't start in 3-kicks, you had to 'un-flood' the motor and start again . When it started, people would recoil-backwards , it really Roared ! Dave NZ
The definition of insanity(kicking it over and over again and thinking its gonna suddenly work).
some people believe everything created it self so no surprise such people exist
@@Dragoloov because thats literally what happened?
@@lennartsix6102 prove it and show me something that creates it self out of nothing.
@@Dragoloov prove it and show me god create something
@Sriram R Kicking when the lever is all the way down will not start any engine. That's lack of knowledge!
It's a wonder the kickstart hasn't broke with all that kicking😂
I mean to be fair theres no electric start so being kicked alot is kinda its whole reason for existing. Things weren't built shitty back then like they are now.
its a tough old bike
We owned World War II Bmw bike which can break your leg with kickstand if done incorrectly 😉
@@inhumanfilth681 I don't think they're built "shitty" now, quite the opposite actually lol
@justauser I don't think he used the right word. I think, basically what he probably meant was...they don't make em like they use to. As modern motorcycles, cars, etc are made with many Chinese/Mexican sourced electrical components like failing sensors galore for example. Even the branded Harley oil filters have degraded substantially from 1991-present.
that motorcycle looks really good for something 81 years old
Its restored.
I find it funny how they called the cops for you standing there but not when you guys were trying to steal a bike
1-Put the transmission in 2nd gear 2-Hold in the clutch 3-Make sure gas and choke (or distributor) are in correct position 4- Make sure key is on. 5- Position kickstart into highest compression. 6- then kick start it. twice if necessary. Don't forget to prime it if it's been sitting a while.
It must be on 2nd gear to start?
@@flamelacacio8150 No, you don't have to, it is just easier to turn over the engine in 2nd gear. Doesn't kick back as hard at your leg. Not a requirement though. If you are having trouble in neutral, try it. Worked for me on some days. A good spark is key.
@@janosistvan5226 thanks for the reply, it was just curiosity since I'd never heard about this technique. I've had a couple kick start bikes but newer ones, anyway if I need to start an oldie someday, I'll remember this advice. Thank you!
@@flamelacacio8150 Sure happy to oblige. It's funny I had a 1971 Honda 450 CB that never started with the electric start, and I had to kick start it always. Come to find out when I put a new battery in, it started right up and ran better too always. I think the old point type distributers made a difference in how Harleys started. Electrical contact or timing had to be just right. Some Triumphs with points, when the humidity was high outside you had to wipe between the points with a matchbook cover to get it dry enough to fire. Different bikes = different characteristics. Newer technology is much more reliable nowadays until it breaks then it's expensive.
With a foot clutch?
Used to have an old dirt bike with a similar start-up process and had a flip switch ignition. Fuel tap on, 3 prime kicks choke full, half choke 1 huge kick, leg snapper kick start all with quarter throttle, on fireup open throttle to full. Plenty bruised shins, but by far the most fun I've ever had
I built a Cafe' racer with a 140cc piranha engine. The compression on that engine is insane. When kickstarting Quality over quantity is the secret... and a hand over the air intake helps. If you attempt to kick it without giving it all you got, its coming back at you. It hurts really bad. Once its running, its a beast. Roll starting isn't an option, it will not roll start no matter what gear you are in.
I had a cb550 for a while and i dont know if those are prone to vicious kickbacks but it caught me a good 2 times and each time it felt like it broke my shin in half lol!
It also helps if you get it to go just past TDC and then let the kicker return up. Then give her a really good kick. Usually won’t get kick back with that method.
@@mmaaddict78 Trust me, if it were that easy, I would do it. I just do as per instructions that came with it. The company that sells them told me the kickstarter will break off eventually, and it did. After welding it together its no longer an issue. That is the only real gripe I have about the engine, that and all 4 gears are up. That can be annoying sometimes when not paying attention.
Happy New year to you all (not Dan) from across the pond! Was everyone else wincing as much as me with that poor kick start lever? Look forward to more new content guys, keep up the good work!
Oh I was envisioning the gears just grinding down every time those unfamiliar with a kickstarter stomped on the pedal.
ChatGpt response is : Starting a vintage motorcycle like the Harley Davidson WLC 1942 Navy spec requires a bit of knowledge and patience. Here are the steps you can follow:
Check the Fuel and Oil Levels: Make sure the motorcycle has enough fuel and oil. The oil should be checked by removing the oil tank dipstick, and the fuel should be checked by looking inside the fuel tank.
Turn on the Ignition: Locate the ignition switch, usually located on the right-hand side of the motorcycle's frame. Turn the switch to the "on" position.
Set the Choke: Locate the choke lever on the left-hand side of the motorcycle's handlebar. Set the choke to the "on" position to provide a richer fuel-air mixture for starting.
Prime the Carburetor: On the left-hand side of the carburetor, there is a small lever called a tickler. Press it down to prime the carburetor with fuel.
Kickstart the Engine: Move the kickstart lever into position and kick down with a smooth and firm motion. You may need to repeat this process several times until the engine starts.
It take 40s to ask and read, rest 4mn20s to test !
I think the trick is turn on ignition switch first
That bike sounds amazing. It must have been a real rush to get that thing to come to life.
Note to self if I see Sean And Craig in a parking lot offering $1000 to start an old Harley, watch wheels through time video before I try to start an old Harley 😁
Oh just remember to turn the bike to on. Like every single car and motorcycle requires(besides for the new push start cars)
@@craigbannister7826 yep , that's actually the one thing i kew , but I knew there was an order , I have watched wheels through time . Lol and are you "Craig" from B&B ?
I think people didn't want to participate mostly because they were afraid to drop that bike while starting it. Especially if someone's not used to sitting on motorcycles. Maybe a backwheel stand to stabilize the bike would help get confidence.
With all the turmoil in the States since 2020, it's great to see a video like this appear every now and then. Good work and keep the good vibes coming. From Sydney Aus.
I have a feeling you're reffering to Trump and not covid...
@notfiveo o un ladrón de motos que ofrecía dinero porque no podía encenderla ... 🤔 esa harley tan bonita no va a ser de ese barbudo 🤣
@@rea280 Maybe because covid was everyones problem in the world, not just in the US
THANKS!! IT'S BEEN HI-ANXIETY HERE, up until well AFTER JAN 6. But Better NOW. Less anger and hatred, and 'US vs Them' mentality.
“I’ll give you 100 bucks if you can read this sign” 😂😂 genius
Sign shoulda just said
TRY TO
WIN
$1,000
then people would ask how and boom explain the rules
I can start any bike in just ten second, old or new, i'm a mechanic for an old royal endfield bikes and a new yamaha like r1m.❤❤❤. Good video.
I steal bikes for a living and have always struggled getting these bikes to start......but now with your fine video I'm sure I'll strive in my craft......Thanks BikesandBeards!! 🤣🤣
You didn’t struggle to get them started. You either know how to, or you don’t.
You ever stole a lawnmower?
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. - Einstein
I did something simular with a buddy of mine. I fly small airplanes as a hobby, and I asked him if he would figure out how to start it (it's a Cessna 172, just a normal piston engine propeller plane). He's a mechanic, so he knows a lot about motors. It took him some minutes, but he eventually fired it up.
What do you need to start an engine? Battery/power, fuel flow, mixture control, ignition/spark and throttle to keep the engine running. And usually in that order. It was very much fun for me to see him figuring out. Like the very first thing he said was "alright, so wheres the battery switch?".
I've never driven anything in my nearly 40 years (no licenses of any sort), and I think my first instinct would be to examine the area where the fuel switch is to see if there's a button or something. Not saying I'd have figured out the rest, though, but the fuel switch probably wouldn't have eluded me.
How have you never drove anything in 40 years???
Ya how?
I was thinking the whole time that it had to have an ignition switch. But everyone did get the choke, fuel then kick. Just one of those things that everyone has gotten used to in this day and age of ease of use. There used to be ignition switches haha good video though it was fun!
You were right
electric starters don't have an ignition key? How then do you lock the bike?
@internetcensure5849 there is a key that locks the forks thats it you have a fob now for bikes
I have no idea why people think tried to start this bike would do it without switching ignition ON.Also bringing engine to compression moment.
I am not familiar with Harleys but principle stays the same.Some bikes have decompression lever you need to release after the kick or some bikes you change ingnition timing.
The two of you remind me of my husband and his best friend. Never a dull moment and always entertaining 😊
LOL...I had a 53 panhead and would tell people they could have it if they could start it..! Nobody could start it. I could start it on the 2nd kick every time
Challenge accepted. 😈 I have a '48 Pan.
The emotion in your voice is so relatable man…. I got into two accidents driving my classic truck (other drivers fault, both times) and I sounded the exact same
It's like watching McCarthy trying to become speaker of the House!😂
I don’t even ride or have ever ridden a motorcycle..Lol someday I guess 🤔 and yet I find myself watching all your videos, awesome work guys!
Been Brazilian, U$ 1,000 is waaaay more money to me than it should. Now knowing how to start the bike, I wish I was in that parking, that day, with this knowledge hahahahah
I know how to start an airplane engine from the 1940s. So it's in the realm of possibility I could've applied that knowledge here :-P Nice video!
Yo Sean… too bad I wasn‘t around. I had my first flatty 45 when I was 27, the next one 10 years ago… would‘ve been easy money! Great idea, keep on doin‘ stuff like this. Peace.
Sitting here LMAO because my 72 Shovelhead is still kick only. But since 1986 was the last year Harley sold a bike with a kicker I guess it's not surprising that few folks, even Harley techs, know how to use one, especially on a bike with a manual advance system.
Well since the bike is likely flooded after those folks kept kicking it I'd first turn the key and gas off, open the throttle all the way, and kick it half a dozen times to clear out the heads.
Then gas on - key off - two or three kicks with choke fully engaged - stop. Next - gas on - key on - 1/4-1/2 choke - spark fully advanced - throttle 1/2-/3/4 open - kick. Low compression engine should start with 1 to 4 kicks. If not stop and repeat process.
Nice bike. The Flatheads, small and large, were always favorites but my all time favorite are the 1928 JD and JDH models.
Man. Seeing you guys do all this cool local stuff only makes me hate living in CA more than I do already. And that amount increasing even a smidgen more should break math!
I mean California sucks but at least you can ride all year round
@@ianm432 I see you are a glass 1/8th full kinda guy!
Ca is better than all these places in the middle of no where
I love Craig's laugh. He got so happy when that last (first or second actual person) got it to fire up!
This video brought back a funny memory. I was not a Harley rider, but a Jap bike rider instead, but I had a number of aquantences who rode Harleys and the common consensus was that some of them could be hard to start especially the Sportsters.
I was considering buying a used sportster once and when I got to the guys house he said there might be some trouble getting it started. He kicked it and kicked it, taking rests and making adjustments in between. He finally changed the spark plugs and got it started and running. After that it was fine. I took it for a test ride and really enjoyed the bike, but in the end I decided not to buy it.
I was spoiled by how easily my big Jap road bikes started and how reliable they were compared to the Harleys. I've always had a love for the Harleys, but from a distance. Nope, I don't want to own one. The same goes for the finicky Brit bikes. They are very cool to me, but not to own, or rely on.
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! Glad to see some new content. Keep up the good work and God bless!
Same to you
best way 2 start a harley is in a dumpster cause it is a good start...like.
I'd love to see you do this a bike week. I hope everyone has a fantastic 2023!
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Wow, what a trip! I remember one time my nephew, my brother and I went to see a 1950 Panhead here in Southern California. The guy thought he was a real old-school biker, and wanting to sound tough, he said “if you could start it you can test ride it” He went in his house and came back running when he heard the bike galloping. I kick started it with the second try. He didn’t know I had been riding since the 80s. We ended up buying the bike and like a full we sold it 2 Years later way before they went up in value. We did make about 7k on it so can’t complain.
great content. im surprised people were so reluctant to give it a shot
Why? I'd take that offer to mean something was done to it that any motorcycle mechanic probably wouldn't think of to make it impossible to start without undoing it. Edit: Nevermind. The former part of this comment was posted while watching a preroll ad.
I think it's mostly the sign. If it was just a guy who came up to me to ask me to start a motorcycle that I can see, I'd be much more willing.
Most people are scared of failure, wspecially in public. Irl most people eny and look up to us that dare.. " Who dares wins" - actually usually even when they don't win - in the long run, they do..
Look at the world we live in today sean. Everyone and I mean everyone is suspicious of everything.
Yeah it's kind of sad
this comment sums it up perfectly
If he'd set up in Tractor Supply or Ingles parking lot in North Georgia there'd be a line of contestants in 5 minutes.
We're friendly, chatty and just not intimidated by two bearded yankee hipsters with a videographer....however somebody we knew would have to hold the 1000.
Yeah people just don't know how to mind their own damn business. And it's usually done out of spite literally no reason at all. When I see something like this going down, I look, give a lil laugh and head on hoping them boys have a good time in Free America.
Ignition is the number one key.🤣 who doesn't know that. More than you think I guess.
Imagine stalling in busy traffic
As someone who owns quite a few pre 1950's British Motorcycles - this is my daily routine.
The complicated-start-sequence part or the kicking-it-for-5-mins-and-nothing-happens part?
@@SlimTony on a good day the former but now in the winter I would say both. But I digress, if you know the proper procedure most of them start by the 2nd or 3rd kick
For the whole time I was wonering "Does they turned on the ignition?" and when I found out that they didn't I had only one question "Do you ever started SOMETHING that has any engine?" because you can do whatever you want but 2 basic things must be done. Open fuel valve and turn on the ignition, you can also choke it but that depends on the engine, if you have those 2 things done you will start it eventually.
How can this bike have such an antique yet modern look at the same time? Very beautiful!
You guys make fantastic YT content for bikers,love it!
Greetings from Belgium 🔥
When I was 17, weighting 120 lbs, I had no problem starting my 750 flathead. 60 years later, I'm not sure I could.
From my year as a dispatch rider I learned that the most important thing about a military bike is easy starting.
LOVE this channel and am very impressed with the depth of knowledge and talent from both Sean and Craig. Also a little jealous of both beards and bike collection lol IF I was lucky enough to see this in a parking lot somewhere, I would first ask if instead of the $1,000, I could ride it, within sight of course, say around the parking lot for 10 minutes, am fully insured and legal. I realize what a museum piece this is and know the work you have done on this BEAUTIFUL bike. I actually knew the order of and how to start this bike as I watched a part of our group do it to his WLA back in the day. My son and I would consider it an honor to ride with you guys, if you ever make it to the gorgeous PNW.
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So glad to see you guys back in action! I hope you had a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Keep the shiny-side up, dudes.
I would of put it in second and dumped the clutch while running with it lol😅 would that work?
fun to watch . one of the best bike channels
Love your videos keep them coming! Props all the way from Scotland.
Glad you like them!
easy money...knowledge is the KEY..glad to see someone did it properly
I once helped a guy push start his car on a parking lot. The dude barely spoke my language but was very grateful. It didn't take money to do it.
That being said, everyone else was wary of this guy for some reason. I can't know for sure but I guess people are just overly cautious these days.
Seems like a problem with our society nowadays.
Because of all these anonymous online scams but people forget things are different out in the real world where you cant hide behind a screen
Being cautious is good, people are afraid of liability more than anything.
I love your videos. They always put me into a Great Mood. I’m always looking forward to your New Content. Funny thing is, it didn’t start out that way. There was a time I kinda hated it 😂 . Great Content keep up the Awesome Work.
Wish I'd of walked through that lot. In 1969 my first Harley was a '45 WLA. I'm 72 and can still start one easily. Old bikes confuse the hell out of late model bikers.
I had a feeling that was the main problem! Can't believe that they all thought it would start with no ignition!
Not everyone knows what an ignition actually looks like on a 1942 harley. People that have never ridden a bike never had a chance.
After so long kicking it you figure they’d try something different 💀
Left side twist to advance spark…. If it has a pumper… twist tight side twice…. Choke on…. Move kick starter slowly and find TOP of compression stroke…. Jump straight up… come straight down….and DO NOT come out of the bottom until AFTER the engine is RUNNING…or completely stopped popping
How the f this didn't break their leg .
Low compression engine as was stated in the video. Easy kick
Getting ready to buy my first motorcycle and came across this channel. I can’t believe I never knew this channel existed when I’m right next door in York 😂 hopefully you guys will get some inventory soon so I can buy a bike off you!
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@@kennyk1679 I’m already Christian so don’t need this. But thanks
Could of saved some money with that police officer…
I want to start it for free
That “drugs?” comment was really disrespectful
💀
I like how my father's friend deal with engine. He said, "Engine is basically fire, you need fuel and spark to light it up, as long as there is fuel and spark, it will lit. The problem inside the engine is another matter, it may not run smooth, but it will still run regardless."
And he hates modern engine with all unnecessary systems that made it more troublesome to tinker with the engine. I know nothing about engines, but I always hold on what he said whenever my bike or car doesn't lit.
My first road bike was a 1950 FL Hydro glide. It WAS NOT low compression and came in 4 boxes when I bought it at 17 years old. I loved watching my friends try and start it because they would miss the compression stroke and get launched. The stroker kit didn't make it any easier haha.
List at 13 seconds, it goes by fast!
Before watching this, here is my comment. One of my friend has a similar kind of military bike(not one from this company).. it's an old 500cc bike. kick start only. You can't just kick start it straight away. There is one pressure gauge on it, which moves left or right when you kick the starter. The trick to start it is, You have to kick the starter half way like an air pump several times. That will make the needle on the pressure gauge point straight up. It will stay there for few seconds, at that time give the kicker a full kick.. The bike engine will start. Without doing that pumping at the beginning, it is near impossible to start.
Another option why not too many people joined might be that not everyone wants to be in the spotlight, let alone in a video that will be online for .. forever?
Just got to get it on the compression stroke
Don't take that offer to Sturgis unless you've got real deep pockets 😁
he is a mechanic for sure
I'm not familiar with HD bikes but my old 500cc single Norton back in the day was a fun bike to start. I could start it first time every time because I knew how to turn on the fuel and tickle the carb, set the choke and valve lifter then get the piston to TDC before kicking it. No problem. I'd have loved to have a go at starting that thing.
My father had 1972 yezde. After my dad leaves out we quickly turn on the TV, and we turn off before he comes back cause we can hear the SOUND LIKE 2 STREETS away.
Anyways, it's an amazing video.
Reminds me of my old ‘65 Sporty with a Linkert carb and magneto. I had to kick once while holding the choke closed, then turn the ignition on, open the choke, and give it a hearty kick and off we went!
"What are you going to spend this money on? Drugs?"
I tought he was gonna say "parts"
I would tried it just so i could sit on the bike and get my pic taken. What a beautiful bike.
I got the love of motorcycles due to my Pops. I was his passenger from early infant to about 7 years old and then on and off if I wanted to ride with him. When I bought my first Harley, a 57 FL Panhead and that thing was tricky to start. You had to know how or be sent over the handle bars. It had been boosted to over 1200cc and there was no electric start.
While visiting him with my bike, he asked me if he could borrow it and I told him he could if he knew how to start it.
Old man went outside, kicked it twice, cranked just before TDC then turned it on.
With a swift downward kick, the dragon came to life. He never told me how he knew to start Pans . He was laughing at me all the time.
He went off for a ride and where I live, you can hear everything and see where the main road passes in the distance. He could be heard throughout the village and passed that straightway visible from their house, like a bat out of hell!! My mom was NOT impressed with him since not having ridden a bike for over 15 years.
He simply replied, "riding a motorcycle, is like the first time you get laid. You NEVER forget!" ☺
I nearly pissed myself laughing cause mom was even more furious and Pops laughing while stroking his beard!
I don't have a motorcycle (Had a Yamaha DT125 trail once many years ago)
But my father taught auto mechanics for 26 years in the vocational system. Back then (1960s-70s) Plymouth had a national troubleshooting contest for high school students and his students always won or scored high every year. From a little school system in West Virginia!
But one basic he taught them. An internal combustion engine needs three things to run. Fuel, Air, And Spark. So that's where you start always. Sounds like most of them forgot the spark!
Now if someone could just get my string trimmer and hedge trimmer to start. And my Stihl saw without using either!
That last guy was amazing! The first one who got it had a bit of a dry attitude. Great video guys.
turning on the fuel is what i would always do first
The people I would expect to complete this challenge are either over 80 years old, mechanics interested in history, or wealthy collectors of antique vehicles. Imagine a rich guy like Jay Leno who owns bikes like this, starting it on the first try and taking the $1000.
That woud have been a bummer
fun part, i saw the bike, and my first imagine was, do you have to put the seat down ? like on a mowing machine ? because i know bikes have different ways to start, and when someone gave 1k bugs for it, you have to check, basic stuff.
Shoke / Fuel buttom / starter and a "Safety seat". But yeah, i dont have a license too :P
I read the sequence and as someone who used to drive an old honda bike that can barely start when it's raining. That's exactly how I start it.
The sign is to sketchy. You should of put " WIN $1000" in big bold letters with the amazing colors of red the white & the blue 😁😄
That one guy kick'n that starter so much, looked like "Harley Davidson River Dance "
“I’ll give you $100 to read this sign out loud.” 😂😂😂😂