Bit of poo coming out for sure! Many of us would be on the floor in this situation (me first). Fast and long wheelies can get you into trouble...even the best riders.
These are the 3 bikes I debated which one to get 2 years ago. Went with the ZH2 (standard suspension though). At over 19K miles now, it's still incomparable to anything else I've ever ridden. Perfect street bike for the insane. Owned a ZX14R, ZX10R, and an FZ09 before it.
Dont know why 239kg is an issue all of a sudden, my fazer 1k is over 230kg weight and am lovin it, dont feel the weight while riding. Stay safe brother 👊🏻
@@sugarrfree I'm driving a ZH2 in Japan. The problem is the high center of gravity and the hard Pirelli tires that come as standard equipment. When I ride on Japanese mountain passes, I have to turn frequently and the high center of gravity makes it hard to move the bike, and the hard tires are sometimes scary to lean the bike over on rough surfaces. I like the ZH2, but I would like to have more steering stability when accelerating quickly.
It shows what a true professional you are and so composed after that mother of all slappers. It also shows we can all get it wrong at some time. Jeez that fence came up quickly too
Of course. It would be a close call between the Streetfighter V4 and Tuono V4, i think. In 2021 the winner of all these was the Tuono in this dragrace: ruclips.net/video/xDKLsWeWjwE/видео.html. The versatility of the Tuono was deciding even if it was a bit down on power.
Wow, for most people that tank slapper would have ended in the fence. Especially when going for the brake and it goes straight back to the bar. Hats off to you sir. If you can get the air strip again, maybe put a sports bike in the mix. Superbike vs supernaked. The brand doesn't matter, as it would make it easier to source them for the day. Thanks for making this, great job.
I'm convinced that slapper would have resulted in a pretty catastrophic off for most of us mere mortals Chris, due to the fence if not the fearsome shaking 😳 pretty legendary save! That bike really should come out of the crate with a damper, given how prone it is to a wiggle plus how well it holds a fast wheelie. It's borderline negligent on safety. Devil's advocate though: it's relatively cheap in the sector and an awful lot of performance and tech for the money. The other two are among it's closest true competitiors, not track focused Ducatis and BMW M bikes at much higher price points. That's why it's 100% a muscle bike - Cheap and potent, but also comfortable, usable. Almost practical!
I have a Z H2 SE. I've owned ZX14Rs, ZX10Rs and numerous fast big bikes. There is no comparison, with the way it delivers the power. Thank you Kawasaki.
@@AVI.D I guess you have to own one, *and* a M1000R, *and* ridden/owned "a few" more high-performance bikes like I have. The Z H2 just wants to lift the front wheel instead of acceleration fast forward. That's what I meant with "drama" (not queen, but king) 😂
I'd prefer s1000rr except it feels more way more unstable at high speeds than zh2, it gets off the line a lot more reliably and don't make you feel but when you're at really high speeds it gets alot more shaky and vibraty in the wind? I dont know if that is even a word. I haven't ridden an m1000r but I do look forward to it
I actually sold my 2020 SDR for a cheaper MT-10, and unless you've ridden the 1290r, you have no idea how hard it is to launch. That much torque on an upright bike takes ALOT of skill to launch properly, compared to the MT-10, which is just a breeze to get going.
Indeed, no point using 1st on the KTM - it's quicker off the line in 2nd which takes enough off the edge off the torque to get a good launch. The MT-10 is such a brilliant all-rounder. Lacks a bit of ground clearance on the track and the tank needs to be bigger - but a fabulous, fabulous road bike.
mt10 is R1 detuned, so it's a pretender zH2 is just H2 which is a hyperbike and not mid power naked bike Superduke is the only one that is made as a mid power naked bike with dedicated engine for it Superduke all the way especially with it's monster v2 engine which with Austin racing sounds thick and monstery
I had a very similar moment to that on an early blade in around 2001. Mine wasn't from a wheelie though - I was coming out of a corner (in Mexico obviously) toward the top of 4th and just on the exit there was a small crest with a few ripples on it. On other bikes it was usually a little wobble of the bars and on with your day. On that evil thing it immediately went lock to lock so violently my hands came off the bars and it looked very similar to that clip. Luckily it was a fairly big, open road and I managed to stay on long enough for it to come back. Scary stuff though. The comment about the brakes is spot on too because that was something else I never expected so when I went for them and not a lot happened until the lever weas really near the bar I pulled over to check the slapper hadn't popped a line or something. Thats one of those endearing moments that stays with you. It also made me love the bike because up until then I liked it but it was a bit too good at everything. Once I realised it was doing a Kato and just waiting for the correct moment to kill me it felt like much more of a challenge. I've had a few blades over the years since and always had a slapper now and then (edit - not like that one - just a couple of lock to lock and mostly head wobbles now and then) but now I know its coming its not too scary - it just adds a flavour of danger. Bikes like that are almost always more rewarding.
The SDR isn't traction limited - its stability limited. You can launch it any way you like even hanging off the front and it won't spin up - it just tries to wheelie all the time. These guys know what they're doing so they are just balancing wheelie vs speed. Its hard to get a great launch but really easy to get a good one on a bike like that.
That Kawasaki is mental. 90s 400cc bikes, zxr400, vfr, rvf, gsxr and fzr vs the new batch Zx400rr and Kove 400rr etc. Would love to see that. Cheers Paul
Awesome skill as always Chris. It would be good to see a video on tank-slappers. How to reduce the likelihood of having one, without having to ride like a snail (Dampners, fork geometry, etc.), and how to control one. I had one years ago, when a bird hit my front brake lever, mid corner at speed. From memory I think I wound it on to cure it, certainly not an option in your situation. I assume you stronlgy applied rear brake and waited for it settle, before jumping on the fronts?
I had a tankslapper from tying down the forks on a Hayabusa for a top-speed run, of course no brakes for the first couple of squeezes and then rapidly running out of runway coming down from 190ish mph - no ABS in those days so I couldn't just hammer the brakes on. Still great save by Chris - that was mind-bogglingly violent!
Great as always Chris, i have had a H2 Ninja for a long time and you made me buy the H2sx to because of a great review( haven't any regret though), now i hope I'm not ending up buying the ZH2 as well😂
Awesome video. How about for the next one we have Aprilia Tuono, Ducati Street Fighter, BMW m1000r and Triumph Speed Triple RS. The top 2 faces the Kawasaki and KTM 1290.
Good watch, thanks guys! Could you guys do a drag race, road test, etc comparison of Kawasaki Concours14 (2022) and Yamaha FJR1300 (new) and anything else in that class??? As a new 2022 C14 owner, would love to see how the C14 stacks up with Chris' riding n skillz testing! :)
Think about this: in 1990, when the original ZX-11 was introduced, it could do the 1/4 in 10.5 @132mph. That’s 34 model years ago. That bike was and still is the epitome of evil fast.
I'm getting my ZH2 remapped next week. They tend to make 175Whp stock, and a 'safe' tune is often 215 to the wheel. Wish me luck. I'll post my results.
That was outstanding! Now imagine an uncorked Z-H2 with an ECU flash and another 40bhp. Many Z-H2 owners install a steering damper to calm the bike down a bit.
i have a 245 bph zh2 (just ecu and muffler..). Believe me , after 8000rpm is night and day. Not going to sell it, i don't think we will never ever see such an engine again.
No surprises in a straight line, then 1. Super charged bike. 2. Big twin bike. 3. Inline 4 bike. And two of the three testers would still take the inline 4 home.
I am seriously impressed how you managed to compose yourself and get that stopped! Fair play Chris!! 👏🏻👏🏻 scary AF! 😅
4:52
Damn....
That was so scarry....
Shocking moment at damn fast situation......
😱😱😱😱😱
😔😔😔😔😔
Bit of poo coming out for sure! Many of us would be on the floor in this situation (me first). Fast and long wheelies can get you into trouble...even the best riders.
at 173.80 kmh...
you cant just make hyper bike a naked one
only real muscle monster is superduke
I'm picking up a Zh2 in 2 weeks.
I think mod number one is going to be a steering damper after watching that tank slapper!
Amazing save Chris!
How did it go?
As a rider of a tuned MT10, i'm a fan to see the stock one do so well! But God damn, that tank slapper and emergency braking was naughty as it gets!
4:52
Bike is mad ugly tho
Christ that wobble almost had me needing to change my undercrackers! That’s a beast.
that wobble was defenitely a 100% brown pants moment mate.
@@westtothewest 4:52
I experienced a similar, but smaller wobble and that's the reason I don't wheelie in high gear anymore.
Wow, wow,wow ! Bet the end of that runway felt like it was coming up way too fast landing that slapper with no brakes !
4:52
😮 5:14 - 5:25 was a great save 👀. That fence was coming up quick!
Yea if dropped the bike and slid into that fence he would be grated cheese
no steering dampener on the zh2 shows. still don't get why it doesn't have one...
Why tf was it wobbling like that? scary af..no way a steering dampener woulda solved it.
@@whitegoodman7465 desequilibrium of the front wheel , causes by wheelies or bumps in the road
The Save was keeping calm and ABS god blessings for the inventor of that tech seriously never i will pick any bike without abs absolutely not
the way you controled the bike in 5:14 was really impressive
These are the 3 bikes I debated which one to get 2 years ago. Went with the ZH2 (standard suspension though). At over 19K miles now, it's still incomparable to anything else I've ever ridden. Perfect street bike for the insane. Owned a ZX14R, ZX10R, and an FZ09 before it.
Dont know why 239kg is an issue all of a sudden, my fazer 1k is over 230kg weight and am lovin it, dont feel the weight while riding. Stay safe brother 👊🏻
@@sugarrfree I'm driving a ZH2 in Japan.
The problem is the high center of gravity and the hard Pirelli tires that come as standard equipment.
When I ride on Japanese mountain passes, I have to turn frequently and the high center of gravity makes it hard to move the bike, and the hard tires are sometimes scary to lean the bike over on rough surfaces.
I like the ZH2, but I would like to have more steering stability when accelerating quickly.
Not a problem with this much hp and torque. Weight helps stability on highway too. Only problem is front wheel staying down over 150-160 in high wind.
It shows what a true professional you are and so composed after that mother of all slappers. It also shows we can all get it wrong at some time. Jeez that fence came up quickly too
Superduke guy might as well be having a coffee while the starter starts
Ducati, MV, BMW, and Aprilia needed to be here as well!
And they all woulda got smoked by the ZH2!😀👊
Of course. It would be a close call between the Streetfighter V4 and Tuono V4, i think. In 2021 the winner of all these was the Tuono in this dragrace: ruclips.net/video/xDKLsWeWjwE/видео.html. The versatility of the Tuono was deciding even if it was a bit down on power.
Wow, for most people that tank slapper would have ended in the fence. Especially when going for the brake and it goes straight back to the bar. Hats off to you sir.
If you can get the air strip again, maybe put a sports bike in the mix. Superbike vs supernaked. The brand doesn't matter, as it would make it easier to source them for the day.
Thanks for making this, great job.
Chad on the MT-10: "I've ridden it before in the past". Probably as opposed to the Kawi, which is so fast you could ride it before in the future. 🤣
Chad seems to be kind of bad at explaining things. "If I can get out front and stay there I'll win." Well, yeah.
@@aluisious Kind of an English Yogi Berra 😂
@@portaltwo Make too many bad mistakes.
love@@aluisious
Love these comparisons! Huge respect to Chris managing to pull that thing up 😮 glad he's alright!
Not even surprised on the results... My lovely ZH2 makes my BusaGen3 look like a tamed kitty.
I'm convinced that slapper would have resulted in a pretty catastrophic off for most of us mere mortals Chris, due to the fence if not the fearsome shaking 😳 pretty legendary save!
That bike really should come out of the crate with a damper, given how prone it is to a wiggle plus how well it holds a fast wheelie. It's borderline negligent on safety.
Devil's advocate though: it's relatively cheap in the sector and an awful lot of performance and tech for the money. The other two are among it's closest true competitiors, not track focused Ducatis and BMW M bikes at much higher price points. That's why it's 100% a muscle bike - Cheap and potent, but also comfortable, usable. Almost practical!
It has an electronic steering damper.
I have a Z H2 SE.
I've owned ZX14Rs, ZX10Rs and numerous fast big bikes.
There is no comparison, with the way it delivers the power.
Thank you Kawasaki.
Agreed. No replacement for a supercharger
Did you flash your ECU? My '22 really came alive.
ZZR1400 runs 9.47 in the quarter mile
I think the ZH2 runs 9.62
@@peterroberts652 are those stock times? 😮
I believe so
Wow, I thought for sure you were going to wipe out on the Kawai. Nice save. I'm sure Kawasaki appreciates it too. Peace.
This was the first time I've seen Chris intimidated by a bike. It takes a beast like the ZH2 to do that!
Yep. I have the Z H2 (tuned to 245bhp) *and* the M1000R. The Z H2 still scares me. The M1000R is just fast without no drama 😊
@@TL1000S97what do u work as
@@TL1000S97 In what way is the zh2 more dramatic?
@@AVI.D I guess you have to own one, *and* a M1000R, *and* ridden/owned "a few" more high-performance bikes like I have.
The Z H2 just wants to lift the front wheel instead of acceleration fast forward. That's what I meant with "drama" (not queen, but king) 😂
I'd prefer s1000rr except it feels more way more unstable at high speeds than zh2, it gets off the line a lot more reliably and don't make you feel but when you're at really high speeds it gets alot more shaky and vibraty in the wind? I dont know if that is even a word. I haven't ridden an m1000r but I do look forward to it
Wow great recovery man. That was close! God was watching over you.
A lesser rider would have been off there, Chris - well done on saving that and stopping it! Enjoyed this as per usual, love this channel!
Why no Speed Triple 1200rr? The way those deliver power I am sure it would compete.
It was down to timing and availability, we will be doing more and we will use the Speed at some point.
It wouldn’t beat the H2 , it’s fast but not that fast
Wow that was a seriously good save there Chris. You guys are hilarious together btw, maybe do a road trip?
I would take mt10 all day long. Shame us never had m1000r wit us. As always great video, thanks guys for keeping us entertain
5:20 Jesus that fence was coming in hot
the m1000r would have been awesome in that line up.
Couldn't get one, next time!
Yeah with the sprocket change should be up there as one of the fastest.
As would the V4 Streetfighter
But probably a bit meh, being a BMW 😂
@@nicksokolis6343 and a Tuono V4, a Speed Triple RR, and maybe throw one of the 208 hp MV Agustas in there for the lulz
I actually sold my 2020 SDR for a cheaper MT-10, and unless you've ridden the 1290r, you have no idea how hard it is to launch. That much torque on an upright bike takes ALOT of skill to launch properly, compared to the MT-10, which is just a breeze to get going.
Indeed, no point using 1st on the KTM - it's quicker off the line in 2nd which takes enough off the edge off the torque to get a good launch. The MT-10 is such a brilliant all-rounder. Lacks a bit of ground clearance on the track and the tank needs to be bigger - but a fabulous, fabulous road bike.
mt10 is R1 detuned, so it's a pretender
zH2 is just H2 which is a hyperbike and not mid power naked bike
Superduke is the only one that is made as a mid power naked bike with dedicated engine for it
Superduke all the way especially with it's monster v2 engine which with Austin racing sounds thick and monstery
You know that you have lunch control on the ktm right?
Kawasaki tries to kill Chris….Chris says his pick of the three is the Kawasaki……All hail Chris!
people loved to get poked
Unbelievable save!
Cool video. Would like to see more of these with both similar bikes and odd match ups.
Glad I read the description first.
Well done Chris, epic save mate👍
Chris is right. “EVERYONE KNOWS CHAD” 😁 he’s awesome
yeah
Owned a ‘19 MT-10 and now the Gen2 MT-10…love it for the track & street!
Thats one hell of a tank slapper I was expecting fence but you saved it so well!!
Ktm fans 🚶🏻♂️>>>>>❤
That was rather hairy.. had a few shakes but that was new pants time 😂 good save 👏
My mans calls a ZH2 "little kawasaki" hahaha, great rider!
I always wanted a dedicated professional motor bike drag race channel. I think i got it! That's why i subscribed this channel. Wish you best of luck.
I had a very similar moment to that on an early blade in around 2001. Mine wasn't from a wheelie though - I was coming out of a corner (in Mexico obviously) toward the top of 4th and just on the exit there was a small crest with a few ripples on it. On other bikes it was usually a little wobble of the bars and on with your day. On that evil thing it immediately went lock to lock so violently my hands came off the bars and it looked very similar to that clip. Luckily it was a fairly big, open road and I managed to stay on long enough for it to come back. Scary stuff though.
The comment about the brakes is spot on too because that was something else I never expected so when I went for them and not a lot happened until the lever weas really near the bar I pulled over to check the slapper hadn't popped a line or something.
Thats one of those endearing moments that stays with you. It also made me love the bike because up until then I liked it but it was a bit too good at everything. Once I realised it was doing a Kato and just waiting for the correct moment to kill me it felt like much more of a challenge.
I've had a few blades over the years since and always had a slapper now and then (edit - not like that one - just a couple of lock to lock and mostly head wobbles now and then) but now I know its coming its not too scary - it just adds a flavour of danger. Bikes like that are almost always more rewarding.
kawasaki always starts first, very insignificant detail in drag test congratulations.
Maybe a silly question, but what traction control did you have on the SDR and could better starts have been achieved by changing it?
The SDR isn't traction limited - its stability limited. You can launch it any way you like even hanging off the front and it won't spin up - it just tries to wheelie all the time.
These guys know what they're doing so they are just balancing wheelie vs speed. Its hard to get a great launch but really easy to get a good one on a bike like that.
1st Much much much more of this
2nd. That was a phenomenal save
I had a Z H2 and should have never sold it, still miss it, such an epic bike but can get you in trouble in a heartbeat!
That Kawasaki is mental.
90s 400cc bikes, zxr400, vfr, rvf, gsxr and fzr vs the new batch Zx400rr and Kove 400rr etc.
Would love to see that.
Cheers
Paul
Did the Duke guy even knew how to launch? Sick drag race 😤
‘Aahhh, that was bad’😂😂😂
That fence came up quick.
Awesome skill as always Chris. It would be good to see a video on tank-slappers. How to reduce the likelihood of having one, without having to ride like a snail (Dampners, fork geometry, etc.), and how to control one. I had one years ago, when a bird hit my front brake lever, mid corner at speed. From memory I think I wound it on to cure it, certainly not an option in your situation. I assume you stronlgy applied rear brake and waited for it settle, before jumping on the fronts?
Amazing drag races, comparisson and veredict! I've just missed a 3 cilynders bike to make it even more interesting!
Jeeeesus, hat off to you pal. What a save!
LOL so cool "Oh, that was bad". A gent all day :)
I had a tankslapper from tying down the forks on a Hayabusa for a top-speed run, of course no brakes for the first couple of squeezes and then rapidly running out of runway coming down from 190ish mph - no ABS in those days so I couldn't just hammer the brakes on. Still great save by Chris - that was mind-bogglingly violent!
'Oh, that was bad' bloody hell Chris, I almost had a bowel accident just watching 😮😮 Great video 👍🙂👍
I'm glad your ok that tank slapper wow this reminds you what can happen and these are good riders anyone else would of been hitting the deck
5:13 holy sh*t!!!!
5:18 - "Phew, he recovered from the tank slapper"
5:19 - "Oh shit, there's a fence"
Nice save, Chris! That was a mean tank slapper.
Was the dude at the start on the 1290 SDR asleep? Drunk? Reading a book? Answers on a postcard
Code Brown just from watching the tank slapper and emergency braking 😳
Great as always Chris, i have had a H2 Ninja for a long time and you made me buy the H2sx to because of a great review( haven't any regret though), now i hope I'm not ending up buying the ZH2 as well😂
Fooooooooooowwwwwk me that was a monster slapper 😲😲😲😲 apologies for the language but that deserves it!!! Glad you kept it sticky stuff down 🙏🏻
Awesome video. How about for the next one we have Aprilia Tuono, Ducati Street Fighter, BMW m1000r and Triumph Speed Triple RS. The top 2 faces the Kawasaki and KTM 1290.
We will, it's MotoGP weekend and all the bikes were there on stands.
KTM 1290 super Duke R ❤🔥🤩🤩
That Slapper, errr God. It happened to me on a KTM 690 supermoto,flat out in top, never had a bike topped out since.😃
That H2 is something else.
Glad u ok Chris,well done mate,great save
I have the zh2 way too scared to launch it. Don't fancy looping the thing
Christ Chris! That tank slapper had me touching cloth XD that fence was getting bigger very very quickly.
Kwak is just awesome with beautiful sounds n looks 👌
Chris really out here putting his life on the line for us 😂
ZH2 rider here. Last time something hit as hard as ZH2's throtle response, it ended Mike Tyson's carreer.
That Spidi suit is brutally cool
THe KTM just exeplifies Badass
Exhaust and tune on my 22 mt10, and now its a beast. Restrictions from factory are ridiculous.
Yamaha gives the MT-10 owner 100% horsepower........for an tiny instant.......in a couple gears.
Brutalle, M1000r and Streetfigher has my vote :D
😱 holy tank slapper!!!!!!
Good watch, thanks guys!
Could you guys do a drag race, road test, etc comparison of Kawasaki Concours14 (2022) and Yamaha FJR1300 (new) and anything else in that class???
As a new 2022 C14 owner, would love to see how the C14 stacks up with Chris' riding n skillz testing! :)
Crazy vid guys. Seriously scary bit there too. 👍🤪🇨🇦
Think about this: in 1990, when the original ZX-11 was introduced, it could do the 1/4 in 10.5 @132mph. That’s 34 model years ago. That bike was and still is the epitome of evil fast.
Anybody whit the same clutch issue I have o my mt10 on the fast take-off? Strange feeling in the lever and bad noise and vibration?
Hats off, BRAVO!
I'm getting my ZH2 remapped next week. They tend to make 175Whp stock, and a 'safe' tune is often 215 to the wheel. Wish me luck. I'll post my results.
Good job, great vid, please continue...
So happy you didn't eat it brother!
Does that thing have a steering damper?/dampner?
That tank slapper.... and running out of road! Faaaaaaaaaaak! Well saved! 👏👏👏
That was outstanding! Now imagine an uncorked Z-H2 with an ECU flash and another 40bhp.
Many Z-H2 owners install a steering damper to calm the bike down a bit.
For what it is kawasaki should already have installed one from factory
@@rudy3835 Yes, agreed.
i have a 245 bph zh2 (just ecu and muffler..). Believe me , after 8000rpm is night and day. Not going to sell it, i don't think we will never ever see such an engine again.
No surprises in a straight line, then
1. Super charged bike.
2. Big twin bike.
3. Inline 4 bike.
And two of the three testers would still take the inline 4 home.
"As long as it can get off the line and stay ahead of you two" (the bike will win the drag race)
Well, yeah, that's how drag races work.
DAMN CHRIS !!!! 😲 I saw your life flash before your eyes. 😳
and I'm 6000 miles away.
That slapper had me puckered, dispite knowing you didn't bin it ahead of time! Bummed to not see a Tuono in here as well though :/
H2 vs Street fighter V4s vs BMW M 1000 R please. And great save!
One hell of a save from that death wobble
That tank slapper is nightmare material. Makes me sick to my stomach a little just hearing that sound. 😂
i know right. and to not be able to use the front brake with the end approaching...damn
That stuff at 5:14 is scary. Great job saving it.
MT10 was my first bike. A gentle thing when you want it to be. A smooth ripper otherwise.
What problem the ktm joki
In my experience, the anti-wheelie on the KTM is a necessity if you want to launch it.
Isn't that on every bike? When's any bike gonna not wheelie on its launch?
Add in Ducati Streetfighter, Aprilia Tuono, Triumph Speed Triple, BMW M1000R and you would have had all the bases covered. Great video just the same.
We tried, couldn’t get them.
@@BikeWorldTVshow yeah I’d imagine it would be tough to coordinate all those at once. Maybe take winner from each round and then get 1 overall winner.
Love the Carwow style drag feel... 😁😁😁
That wobble is typical of the zx10r too right?
Were you guys using launch control?
I've had a slapper landing a wheelie crooked, but that was a proper scare!!! Ooh shit!
Glad you didn't crash man. Does the Z2 have a steering damper?
No ZH2 does not come from the factory with a steering damper, I think because it's built to a competitive price, but I do agree the bike needs one
It is not about steering dumper you just need to slowly land front wheel at this high speed. SD would help but not too much at this point
How about ducatiV4 , BMW s1000rr, Yamaha R1 and Aprilia RSV4 1100 factory drag race?