It’s Been One Week Since I Traded My ID.4 For The IONIQ 5! Here’s What I Think So Far
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- Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
- Dave swapped his Volkswagen ID.4 for a Hyundai IONIQ 5 and in this video he shares his impressions so far. First, he takes you on a tour of the car talking about features that he finds useful, then he tests the 0-60 acceleration, and finally ends the video at an Electrify America DC Fast Charger
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Good thorough honest review. It's nice to see people who are capable of giving balanced reviews of stuff they own. It's human nature and all too common for ownership bias to kick in.
I love how many points you highlighted of differences between this and the Tesla that so many reviewers miss. Bottom line is that it’s a long video, but you cover a ton of detail, and while I’ve owned an Ioniq 5 for 2 months now, I just watched this video again, and learned a few new things. Thank you.
I’ve never felt the need for a lockable glovebox. Principally, I never leave anything valuable in my cars in the first place. I leave my glovebox opened full view to preempt any potential break in for valuables.
The lower the total harmonic distortion (THD) of a sound system, the lower the perceived volume at any given setting; that's because you're hearing more of the originally recorded signal and less noise from the speakers and amplifiers. This means you have to crank it a bit higher to get the same effect, but it also means that the sound system is less fatiguing to the ears.
Just like Kyle, Dave has an excellent rapport on camera. I love the enthusiasm and details from both of you!
I’ve watched so many reviews of this car and I’m still learning new things from this on!Excellent review!
Thanks for watching
I want this car just for its exterior design. It looks the best out of all EV out there
Great review, you're easy to listen to, almost like you are talking directly to me. Good job!
Love Kyle’s dad in the mix! This is a great 1 week review. Thanks!
Kia EV6 and Hyundai Ioniq 5 have the best charging speed among electric cars, but the actual charging speed depends on the temperature of the battery pack, which drops when the battery pack is cold or too hot (max. module temperature higher than 45°C). Because the Ioniq 5 does not preheat the battery en route to a CCS charger, charging takes longer in winter.
Test results by Bjorn Nyland and James Cheung:
when the battery pack minimum temperature is
-5°C/23°F to +5°C/41°F: 50 kW
5°C/41°F to 11°C/52°F: 65 kW
11°C/52°F to 15°C/59°F: 73 kW
15°C/59°F to 20°C/68°F: 115 kW
20°C/68°F to 25°C/77°F: 185 kW
over 25°C/77°F: 225 kW
Kia and Hyundai are reportedly working on a SW upgrade that will address this issue. Both cars HAVE a batery heater, but it only switches on at -5° Celcius Once this threshold is reprogrammed up to perhaps 15°, owners should be ok.
Yes an outrage the battery warmer is not better. Hope old cars get an SW update on this. Not just new 2023 version.
Been researching EV’s for over a month now. Thanks to this channel I’m going the Ioniq5 Route. SEL or Limited trim. Next challenge is trying to find one in SoCal…
They’re very hard to find. Kyles dad got it for MSRP. They no longer sell for MSRP. That probably was for Kyle’s dad so Kyle could give their dealership some publicity. I love the ionic but started looking at the EV6 and now i think i like that better. People have been paying MSRP at a dealer in Albany NY. I found a dealer near me who charges 1800 over sticker but he gives you a free level 2 charger.
Well…
Great minds think alike! I bought my EV6 GT-Line FE 3 weeks ago.
2600 miles later and I love it.
$2000 over sticker but got a $900 Lvl2 charger and V2L adapter as part of deal.
Either way I’m happy with it
@@taliskertime1668 great car! Best of luck with it! I ordered mine yesterday. Should get it in a couple of months. Got my present car sold already. They’re willing to wait for me to get my EV6.
Flash forward a year... Ioniq5's discounted $10K off MSRP and they're sitting on lots unsold. Sure glad I wasn't an early adopter. Used Ioniq5's selling at 50% of their MSRP.
Great video. I like the discussion about lane keeping and ACC being de-coupled. One thing I just discovered about this car is how to completely turn off lane and steering assist. One big negative up until now was having this on constantly and having the steering wheel "fight" me on one lane roads. Once I learned how to turn off, it's so much better. Still use all the features on multi lane highways but good not having it on smaller roads.
Yes, I agree. Also, regenerative breaking is ONLY useful to control the car coming down a long incline. Those who use it to come to a stop at traffic lights etc.. are just too lazy, and it generates very little charges back to the battery on flat surfaces.
@@tonys9413 I disagree about the Regen braking. I use one pedal driving all the time and love it. I loved it on my Tesla and prefer to drive that way. I hate using the brake pedal
@@tonys9413 decline*
Fantastic real world review 👍🏾 I’m thinking about get one as my next vehicle ☺️
Very Good Video. Pretty cool seeing your view of it. I laughed seeing you wear a Tesla jacket while driving it. Btw I think you are the first to mention that the glove box doesn't lock. I haven't noticed that before.. Keep the videos coming.
Kyle's dad putting Kyle out of a job :) Great review, Dave. EDIT: I got that sick feeling in a Tesla Model S during acceleration. I'm glad I'm not alone!
Haha. Never!! He is my retirement plan. Please subscribe!! :)
@@dconner9 🤣🤣🤣
Looking forward to future Ioniq 5 updates from Dave!
Great review, Kyle learned how to dive into the important details from you !
Coldgating is the big issue with these cars.
24:52 Thank you so much for clarifying this. I've tried asking so many people because someone told me their passenger had the function and the owner's manual says it doesn't. Now I finally understand.
To me, it's a deal-breaker. I want my passenger to be able to recline properly. I think if anyone should have it, it's the passenger. I've done so many road trips as a passenger and wished I had this kind of seat recliner to sleep in the car. I could only imagine how obnoxious it would be if the driver used this function (i.e. crashing at a charging station) and they had a passenger unable to. I know it generally won't be a problem, but if I'm going to drop $60k on a car, I want to not have big issues like that, lack of rear windshield wiper, and having to set i-Pedal every single time I drive. There's so many things to love about the Ioniq 5, though, so it is still #2 for me on what I'd be interested to get, whenever I can.
Loved your review. Really well done. Really appreciate the discussion on charging, too. People like to brag on the Ioniq 5 with the claimed 10-80% in 18 minutes, but that's really ideal conditions. Interesting that you need the FOB to open the V2L in the back. You're the first person I've seen mention that, so thanks. Not a huge issue but kinda weird and worth keeping in mind.
For the charging algorithm, it might be based in Celcius. 68F is 20C and the jump seemed to happen then. 15C is 59F so maybe there was a jump there, too?
Great review!
As an FYI - you can change that Favorite (Star) button on either the steering wheel or the one you pressed to go to "Phone Projection." That will make it go right to carplay if you want. Hold down the favorite buttons for a couple of seconds to bring up the menu to set what it actually does, pick "phone projection."
Great to know… thanks!!
@@dconner9 One final thing, now that I've finished the video - feel free to use the 350s at will. There isn't a car in the USA that can pull higher than the I5 right now. You should have first rights at the 350s. Another fast one is the Taycan, which is 225 max, I think. The Mustang Mach-E is also high, but it's my understanding that no one is at 350 yet.
@@ourfamilytogether Both Taycan and Lucid Air can both pull faster speeds vs Ioniq 5.
Well done great video, very thorough …. I’m looking forward to the car detailing video
Thank you for great review!!! very helpful!
Great review. Thanks. Would be interesting to see future updates that talk about operating costs (charging cost) with charging at home versus at public battery chargers. Does this have a front view camera? If so, does it automatically engage when put into forward gear? I suppose it disengages at 5 mph??
Interesting stats off your “add-on” screen. Is something like that built into the Ionic’s menu system?
Can the Ionic be charged at a Tesla charging station with an interface adapter?
With 1/2 hour free charging I understand why you are not charging at home. Unfortunately, not everyone has the luxury of spending 30 minutes at a charging station on a daily basis.
Wonder how long it would take to charge when the battery pack is at -10 F for our midwestern winter climates? Also, something to consider on long road trips in the winter season.
This car looks insane. Every time I see a Ioniq 5 on the road whoever happens to be in the passenger seat at that time tells me that car looks like its from the future and asks what its called.
i saw my first ioniq 5 on the road in orlando about 3 days ago. in my aera minus tesla ive seen more id4 than anything only have seen 1 mach-e .
Your a great asset/contributor to the Out of Spec Reviews youtube channel please continue your videos on updates with Ionic 5 and other videos... :)
Thanks!!!! :)
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 great job dad! Very informative and entertaining. I was waiting for the follow up. You delivered.
Thanks for watching!
I lived in New Canaan back in the 80's! Many great memories from Waveny Park. The Ioniq 5 looks like a futuristic tribute to my childhood.
Welcome home!
I thoroughly enjoy all your reviews. Saw this one from a few months ago, but it has more relevance now. We purchased our VW ID4 first edition in 2021. We loved the car. Our only concern was with the software, which VW said would be updated in a few months.
That has not been the case. Now there’s a recall for a larger problem with the battery.
So we are trading in this car which I still love for a Model Y. Granted, the price drop and rebate have been another reason, but too many problems with VW including opaque messages which keep giving more reasons for delays in updating battery.
Thanks for all your work on electrics and I especially like your videos including your wife and adorable little terrier.
Patti Mackin
Chicago
Chicago
Very Informative, thank you
Thank you for your first balanced impression on ionic 5, It was really useful.
Hi - great review - appreciate the insights - question - what is the app on your tablet with the battery temps, etc.? is it proprietary to the OBD2 scanner? What scanner do you have - tried to catch it in your comments, but not quite sure.... Thanks again!
Thanks for the update. Good choice getting the little car charger, everyone should have one. What does Utility Mode do for you? Force the 12V to be charged up?
Answer: Leaving the dog in the heated/cooled car and camping mode
Your Dad is doing great with his videos. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for explaining the Veepeak OBD device. I love looking at that type of telemetry. I did a quick Amazon search for this device, will most any OBD device show what was displayed on your tablet? No sure if I could possibly get the wrong one? Thanks!
Great review, thanks! Just ordered my first one, the 2024 model in Hong Kong. Which app are you using for all the data and how do you hook it up?
Excellent Review.
Informative vid. I couldn't find anybody asking about the reason for the iPad mounted to the dash?
I honestly think I saw you on Long Island, getting on to the Southern State Parkway. That car is not something you see everyday so It definitely stood out.
The seat memory not adjustable while driving makes perfect sense. If a husband or wife accentually hits the button while diving it could cause a wreck easily, if they have large difference in setting.
You shouldn't adjust a manual seat while moving, either.
I just pulled the trigger on a Premium with 20" rims. I couldn't resist the Waveny Park flashbacks! Great car!
Your review was very well done, Dave. Maybe sometime you can talk about or test the regenerative brakes to see if the kw gain is worth learning a new driving skill or is coasting king just like in traditional cars.
Thanks! Compiling a list of things to speak about. Don’t want to be repetitive. Any feedback or questions are welcomed.
Thank you for the video
I"ve been debating between this car and the EV6, and I was going to get the Kia, until watching some of these videos and found an Ioniq 5 about 200 mi, and made the drive to purchase that car instead. a lot of your feedback (and Kyles too) helped.
beautiful color. Do you now if the passenger seat folds flat forward flat? Any way to get 115v 15a power from the car?
Not a knock on the video, but I got a good chuckle 8 minutes in to this 57 minute video, you said "what else can I talk about". I enjoy the channel. Your videos on the Ioniq really have me considering buying this vehicle. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for watching!
I really found this video useful. Have a rwd coming in soon. Subscribing!
Thanks for sharing.
I wonder if the AAwireless or AircarplayQ would work and project the smartphone onto the screen as it does with other Hyundai products.
What display and app are you using for the ODB II? I haven't been able to find that information? Thanks
Can you please provide a link to the OBD port scanner and the tablet you are using? Thanks, great review.
Link to the product is in the video description under Amazon products. Thanks for watching
This was a great review kind of gave a good feeling what it's like to be with his vehicle. I have one question I know you're familiar with the model why how would you compare the two.
I value this channel cause he actually own this not sponsored or anything
Great video and forward review... I've put 132,000km on my Koma Electric in 2 years and went looking at the Ioniq 5 for my wife a few weeks back. The car is nice, but the dash is a huge turn off. That big display in front if the driver shows so little useful information. The speedometer is blocked by your left hand which if you don't have the HUD is a problem. And sure you can push a button at your knee to access a menu on the infotainment panel to access the heated seats. But just too much distraction going on for the driver with all the diffrent button locations. The Kia EV6 has a centre console gear selector, which could have housed some simple buttons like all thier other models do for quick access items like this. I see a redesign coming quickly for this car..
Love the four window buttons.😂
Interesting the height in the Ioniq 5, I sat in an Ioniq 5 and sitting correctly for me my head was just rubbing the roof unlike my classic Ioniq which I have a huge space between the top of my head and the roof of the car. Public monies should not be used on proprietary charging standards, a-la Tesla, and that mall really didn't think they need to have put in chargers that ALL EV's can use not a select few remember that could be there for 10yrs and in that time the market will be a lot more EV's. Interesting you can lock the car with the keys in it, my classic Ioniq doesn't allow me to lock the car it beeps at me if I try to lock the car with the keys in it. My classic 28kWh Ioniq also charges the 12V, it has a blue light on the dash indicating that similar to the 5 then. Thanks Dave for another fantastic review you need to be on the channel WAY more, love to see a road trip video like Kyle does sometime in your Ioniq 5.
Do you think the trunk space is good enough for 2 medium (~60 lb) dogs? We are looking to get one but when we looked at the trunk we were a little concerned about the space. Thank you!
Thanks for a very detailed review. This is a fair effort from Hyundai. It will sell well.
One thing I cannot believe is after seeing a large frunk and an elegantly hidden charge port in a Tesla Model S back in 2012… Most manufacturers still can’t give us these simple features.
I’ve left my ID.4 charge port open more times than I care to admit.
You could use some 3M command strips and clips to secure the power cable for your tablet to the footwell wall. Then when you want it gone, just tug the command strips off.
Done. Thanks
Very nice review and lots of nice details. - The one thing that most complain about is that changing settings can be difficult and you have to drill down on menus to make changes and turn things on and off, like heated steering and seats. But my understanding is that the car has a fairly robust voice command system. It would be nice to know what can be done through voice commands. Is there a list somewhere to tell you this information. It would seem using the voice commands would be a one button solution. Any comments? Thanks
I am going to have to test out those voice commands. In my experience, in general, this tech frustrates me as it often misunderstands what I am trying to choose. I do use Siri though often for texting and making hands free calls. So maybe it is worth a look. Thanks for your feedback and thoughts!
In a Tesla you could potentially just set autopilot to a really low speed and use the accelerator yourself. And in regards to the i-pedal, have you tried setting and then saving your driver profile afterwards? I'm not sure if it's like a Tesla where your driver profile saves all settings.
I have never had the issue with the key fob on the ID4 it is very sensitive and works very well!!! On the App and software. I might say any other vehicle is more reliable than the one on the ID4
About the lack of a rear wiper , what about ❄️ snowfall ? I am in Canada 🇨🇦 yep we get snow , sometimes a lot of it - yeah there is probably a rear defroster - but if you are getting a steady snow fall and you are moving at city speeds is there enough deflected wind to clear the rear windshield?
Where is the emergency key fob starter slot (the place where you put the key fob to start the car when the battery in the key fob is dead)?
I’m really shocked I don’t see more of these on the road around me. Such a fantastic and unique looking car loaded with so many great features.
Good review.
Does it somehow clean the rear window or is it a manual clean?
About headlights, I read that most Ioniq5 dont have them aligned at preparation time from the factory ie too low to get the best out of them. Even Bjørn could not appreciate them at their best. Just have them aligned at same time as the wheels when getting the car
Nice to see New Canaan CT
What observer reader did you use on the ID4?
Woah, that made me realize that this is the first car I can remember having that doesn’t have a locking glove box!
Great video
Hydrophobic coating for the rear window works beautifully. No need for rear wipers ;)
Dave, I recently bought a Hyundai Kona Electric. What was the app on your tablet that you used to monitor your vehicle details? Thank.
You get 30 min free per day? Or per station? Was curious, now that the battery's warmed-up to 70°+ how fast and at what rate it would charge to 80%?
Hi Dave. Is the suction cup mount for your phone in between the screens a MagSafe mount? What brand?
I found it at a mall Kiosk. Actually not bad; can’t remember the brand. $25
Super video / explanation👊. Nice car. It does not have over air update right ?. Likewise, it does not have wireless apple CarPlay. Greetings from Denmark🙋🏼♂️🇺🇸🇩🇰
I love you Kyle, but I gotta admit that it is nice watching someone my age give his views on what it is like. No offense, but we look at things a little different than you millennials! Dave, keep up the great work. Would love to see a road trip. Speaking of road trips...Kyle, Alyssa please bring back the stats! (arrival state of charge, time charging, KW's, cost, etc, etc!!!!). Love you too Alyssa - great job with your video's!!!! Blessings to you all!
I also have problems with vibrations on my 2022. Do anyone knows what is the cause? Is it dampers maybe?
Could you run the cable for the tablet behind the screens?
I’m considering the I5 and have zero experience. Should I purchase a level 2 charging box for my garage before hand and how can I make sure I get the right one that would be compatible . Thank you
Look at Tom Moloughneys “State of Charge” RUclips Channel. Many units will work just fine as long as it has a J1772 plug
I currently have the Ioniq 5 SEL RWD, but I ordered an ID4 Pro S AWD last year. It looks like it will show up around Sept., but not sure which one to keep. Since you have owned both vehicles, can you give me your thoughts on the two vehicles, and which one you would choose now? I realize that you didn't have the Ioniq 5 RWD, but would still like your opinion. Thank you
I hope Bluelink has improved because the one with our Pallisade is horribly slow and a pain to use. Really want an Ioniq 5 but range and charging infrastructure here in Canada are questionable. Thanks for the down to earth review!
Still not anywhere near as good as the Tesla app. But compared to the CarNet VW app, I am in heaven.
I picked up my Tesla M3 LR almost a month ago. It phantom braked in less then 10 minutes of using the auto drive. I haven't used it since. I have been using the auto speed. That works really well.
The Tesla adaptive cruise control controls speed and braking. It is a subsystem of the autopilot. In other words, if you have another phantom brake event, it will happen because of the cruise control.
Just wondering how do you compare with EV6 ? Is it much more roomy inside compare with EV6 ?
Does anyone know if there is a skin that can be put over the bezels for the screen? They just drive me crazy and ruins the look of the dash.
Battery Min temps seems to be steps of 5 deg Celsius 10, 15, 20 and 25degC once at 25C and over it opens up as per Bjorn Nyland has shown on the GMP set up )
Does the scanner you use include the screen? I'm also more interested in the range than the 0-60. Can you charge your ev at home? What is the cost to "fill" the battery?
He is using a Samsung tablet.
That was wonderful! I just changed my buying decision from a Polestar 2 to this, yay. And I will save about 7k.
Nice !!
I notice a good amount of wind noise when the glass roof shade is open, does yours?
Not really. Pretty quiet imho. But sensitivity to noise can be subjective from person to person. We should probably invest in a decibel meter
You did such an awesome job reviewing the Ioniq 5 that my wife and I placed an order for our own! Thanks for the honest and thorough review. I’m interested to know what the name and model is of the analyzer you were using. I’d love to get one for our car. Thanks again.
Wow! Use the Carscanner app with a veepeak OBD Bluetooth reader. Click on the Amazon link in the video description for details. Best of luck w the car !
@@dconner9 Thanks for your quick reply Dave. You respond faster than my own kids!
Dave, what software are you using with the obd port scanner? Thanks
Carscanner
Can you put the Amazon link where you got the $7 magnets from? Thanks.
That rear window might be OK in warmer weather 33.8 f isn't cold . But if you live somewhere that gets real winter like me , and you're mostly driving around town you need the wiper . I drive a 19 Kia Niro hybrid hatch and we use that wiper plenty .
Damn good review. This was great. I am now torn though. I really like the styling of the ID 4 because it goes under the radar, and it seems taller, closer to an SUV. I would be coming from a Honda Pilot, so I like sitting up high.
Have you done a range test yet or a test to see amount of time to go from 5 to 80% charging with a 350Kw charger ?
Where can you get one ? They say only in certain states. Is there a shortage
How does Veepeak read the battery data? I thought you needed a PID for that?
I think you can press and hold the steering wheel's star button to start up android auto (or car play?)
whats the purpose of the tablet you have added?
I also read by Motorweek Edmunds and TopGear had it as low as 4.4 seconds!!