Building a steambox for bending guitar sides/wood
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- Опубликовано: 1 янв 2022
- Some people were interested in how I make my steamboxes for bending guitar sides. Well, this is my way of doing it.
Woods I have been successful with: walnut(s), apple, plum, pear, cherry, maple, ash, oak, black locust, bocote, rosewood, chestnut.
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I'm so pleased you brought up the fact that not all hardwood can be steamed bent. I will be looking into what can be steamed bent. Great series of guitar building. You're an inspiration 👍👍
Was a professional carpenter/cabinet maker. Never had anything that nice. We just had a length of pvc pipe with a plug and ahole for the hose at one end, and a rag stuffed in the other end. Hardest wood I ever had to bend was Teak. Thanks for this.
Thanks Gabriele this is absolutley wunderbar
Halo Teman,
Usually I see you make tutorials(Guitar) and I'm quite satisfied with all of them.
Success Always.♥️👍🙏🙏
A great tutorial video - thank you😁👏😁
Very well thought out Gabriele.
A very helpful video, thank you!
Hey, thanks for your tips! About the connection I use an 1/2" adapter. it works very well! In my opinion I think both ways work perfect. But I’m a person who who tries not to destroy things! So I choose this way. But I’m not shure if the thread pitch fits exactly.
Thanks for all!
Thankyou THANKYOU for this vid - been looking for info on how to build a steam box like yours, there isn’t much out there! Entertaining and informative as usual, Gabi, fröhliche neues Jahr to you!
Happy New Year Gabi! I've been waiting for this tutorial, so this happen! Wonderful, thanks.
happy new year Gabriele. nice build
Vielen Dank für dieses Tutorial. Sehr informativ
Enjoyed video as always happy new year to you from London watched and enjoyed your advent calendar!. again next year please🤞🇫🇴👍👏
Finally...i found it 🔥
Bonne année à vous pour 2022 j ai l impression d assister à un court c est sympathique 👍👍👍merci
Happy New year🙏🙏🙏😁
Gabriele, I'm so delighted to have happened upon this video. You just saved me a bunch of time and a few hundred dollars. (Your check is in the mail 😂) Sub'd. Signed: Bruce from Nashville.
You're welcome.
Nice job. Happy New Year to you & your family, from myself, Jayla & her brother. (She hasn't seen this video yet. She'll probably insist I build one. 😉👌), Gil
Hi Gabriele - hope you had a wonderful Christmas and do Have a Blessed New Year - keep making lovely instruments ...... just sayin'
Thank you. The same to you. Well, in the meantime I'm making shoes... They take less space than guitars and I do have a lot of guitars... Cheers.
@@GabiM3112 i stopped making shoe's after 46 years making them ( orthopedic shoe's ) now i make guitars. make a video of you making and designing shoe's 😎
Thank you, I personally used a bending iron, and have been looking into a better process. It would be very nice if you could put together a video of the bending process, and how you make your jigs for ease of bending, various thicknesses etc... How do figured woods bend? Anyhow, thank you very much, very informative.
Hey there. There is not much to the bending process. You can see it in my building videos. I take the hot wood from the steambender and immediately bend it over the jigs I have for the respective guitar type and then clamp them onto the jig where the pieces stay for 24 hours before I take them out and put them in the next jig. The figured wood I used so far have bent well but need to be a bit thinner than non-figured woods to bend evenly.
@@GabiM3112 Awesome! I watched your build video. I'll be giving this method a try. I have some Parlour guitars to make, it's a good time to put it to good use. How long does it usually take for the wood to be dry again? and stable?
@@VirtualMonkey777 As I said, I leave them on the bending jig for roughly 24 hours and then I put them in the jig I build the guitar in.
Great video, thanks. If steaming doesn't work for mahogany, how is it usually bent to shape? I only ask as I have some available.
I bend it over a hot pipe. You wet the wood by spraying it constantly and then apply soft pressure on the hot pipe. I use a TV-satellite dish wall mount and a heat gun.
Dear Gabi, great video! But one question: wouldn't it be good to oil or lacquer the inside to avoid the wood of the box absorb so much moisture? perhaps the box will last longer?? thanks and stay healthy ;-)
I thought of that, too but what makes the box break is actually only the parts, where steam can do harm, like with the srews, so you have to seal them or use such that won't break or get rusty.
Only the lid which is not held in place/shape by screws is prone to being altered in shape by moisture, so I cover that with the foam rubber. I'm not sure how well potential laquer inside will take the heat/steam of 100°C. Maybe using some kind of foil might do the job but that won't smell as good. I love steaming days...
Hi Gabriele, I built my Steam box following your advice, and I did my first try this afternoon with walnut.
it is a success !
thank you for this great tutorial.
I just have one more question I forgot to ask you.
once tightened on the "mold", how long should I leave it tight?
24 hours? 48?
thank you
Good to hear you were successful. I leave them on the bending jig for at least 24 hours, sometimes even longer, while I‘m not building or working on other parts.
@@GabiM3112 thanks for the quick response. I will wait till Monday. I don't need it now.
Thank youuuuu
@@GabiM3112Hi Gabi. Do you leave the sides in the bending jig for a day or longer to minimize excess spring-back?
Hi there,
I leave it for 24 hours, but you have to know that certain woods produce more springback than others. There's almost always a little of it.
@@GabiM3112 ok, thank you Gabi.
Wonderful video , thanks a lot!
Can you tell me the name of the blue steam machine? Do you have a link ?
And can you tell me how much millimeters do you have on your wood when you are bending it? More 2 millimeters?
Hi there, how thick the wood is depends on the species. I take it down so that it gets wobbly. harder woods go thinner than softer ones. 2mm is not a bad guess but sometimes I take off a bit more with very hard and figured woods.
The steamer is just one for wallpapaer removal. You might google that.
Cheers
Thanks, Gabi, for the video! Have you made any wholes in the bottom of the steamer for excess water?
See 18:20.
@@GabiM3112 Aaaaaaa, ok! Danke!
Gabriele, about the wood you put in the box, is there any special preparation to do before putting it in the box?
for example, wet the wood a certain time before, or leave it submerged for hours?
or do you dry it?
Hello there, I have it in a bath of warm water for about 20-30 min. before putting it in the box.
@@GabiM3112 merci beaucoup , for the answer. 🤩
Hey Gabi, vielen Dank, super Anleitung! 👍 Wie viele Einsätze überlebt die Box denn?
Zur Zeit der Messung hab ich so durchschnittlich eine Gitarre im Monat gebaut und dabei die Box so nach 1,5 Jahren erneuert, allerdings nicht, weil es mit der "alten" nicht mehr ging, sondern die schon mitgenommen aussah - hauptsächlich da, wo die Box verschraubt war, weil der Dampf die Schrauben angegriffen hat. Also entweder rostfreies Material verwenden, oder die Stellen abdichten, was ich mit der hier gemacht habe.
@@GabiM3112 Danke! 15 Akkustik-Gitarren werde ich im Leben wohl nicht bauen... Deine in vielen Punkten so gänzlich untraditionellen Lösungen beeindrucken mich. Im Hobbyraum ohne Maschinenpark mit so vielen kreativen Workarounds zu arbeiten ist schon besonders. Was rufst Du für Deine Gitarren denn so auf?
Ich hab auch keine 15 Gitarren gebaut, eher so 50. ;-) Ursprünglich wollte ich 10 machen und uiuiui, es kann schon ein bisschen süchtig machen, bzw. die Ideen müssen ja umgesetzt werden.
Was meine Gitarren kosten, sollte ich für jemanden im Auftrag bauen, hängt von den Materialien und den Angeberfeatures ab und der Bauherr müsste mit meinen Baureglen konform gehen. Ich bin ja kein gelernter Gitarrenbauer und auch kein Händler. Ich möchte sicherstellen, dass Leute wissen, worauf sie sich einlassen, wenn sie von mir bauen lassen.
Wenn du mehr wissen möchtest, kannst du mich über Instagram anschreiben. Der Link ist in der Videobeschreibung.
Could you please put a link for the generator? Thanks a lot 🙏🌻
You can find them on Amazon and Ebay. This is the cheapest one these days. www.amazon.de/VONROC-Dampftapetenabl%C3%B6ser-2000W-Beh%C3%A4lter-Dampfschlauch/dp/B0857HXZZ3/ref=sr_1_4_sspa?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&crid=2X6URJ7E3K9B7&keywords=dampftapetenl%C3%B6ser&qid=1642402350&sprefix=dampftapetenl%C3%B6ser%2Caps%2C76&sr=8-4-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyUFJGRURYVEdSWUJXJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNjYwMjE3MVVJV0tIM09WMUE5TSZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMzc0MzI2M1FaOEswU1BOVTRUMyZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=
Cheers.
Is it not necessary to make the inside waterproof or heat resistant?
Err... not to my experience. Why would it need to be that? The steam builds and condenses on the top inside and some goes out through the small holes I made for pressure reduction, since I want heat but not pressure inside the box. The condensation water then goes to the bottom end, where it runs out through a hole on the bottom where I catch it in a flat container. The wood of the box can take the heat and moisture and after the process it will just dry.
You could try to put some kind of plastic sack inside but then you wouldn't need a box at all and could use the sack itself a s a steam "box". Some people do that.
@@GabiM3112 I see, I understand it very well.
Hi Gabi, ich habe dank deiner Anleitung ebenfalls eine Box zum Dampfbiegen gebaut. Leider hat das biegen in beiden Fällen nicht geklappt. Ich habe 3,5mm dicke Eiche verwendet welche in beiden fälllen gebrochen ist. Das Holz war für etwa 20 Minuten in Wasser eingelegt und etwa 30 Minuten in dem Dampfofen. Habe mir jetzt Ahorn bestellt welcher 2,4mm stark ist. Kannst du mir noch Tipps geben um Brüche zu vermeiden? Danke für deine Hilfe und die super Videos. 😊
Hallo, Martin.
Das tut mir Leid. Hm. 3,5 mm ist meiner Einschätzung nach zu dick zum Biegen bei dieser Einwirkzeit. Da reichen 30 Minuten in der Dampfbox wahrscheinlich nicht aus. Ich biege so bei 2,3-2,5mm, d.h. du solltest die Seiten dünner machen, bevor du sie biegst und bei gewissen Hölzern auch länger dämpfen.
Ich lasse die Sachen in lauwarmem Wasser liegen. Eine halbe Stunde sollte reichen, oft aber auch länger. Dann könntest du noch ein Metallblech außen auf das zu biegende Holz legen, um gleichmäßig Druck zu machen.
Der Ahorn sollte sich gut biegen lassen. Eiche ging bei mir auch gut, war aber halt nicht so dick.
@@GabiM3112 Hallo Gabi,
vielen Dank für die vielen und ausführlichen Tipps. Die Tage kommt die Holzlieferung von Edelholzhandel und dann werde ich diese Berücksichtigung. Viele Grüße und Danke
Martin
@@martin2714 Hallo nochmals, Martin.
Ich hoffe, du hast mit dem Discount-Code bestellt und Rabatt bekommen. Viel Erfolg beim nächsten Versuch.
@@GabiM3112 selbstverständlich habe ich mit dem Rabattcode bestellt, vielen Dank. 🙂 Ich gebe mir Mühe.
@@martin2714 Hallo nochmals. Ich wollte nur wissen, ob das gut klappt. Was das Biegen der Seiten und das dünner Machen angeht, so kannst du die Seiten an den Enden halten und sie "flippen" lassen und wenn sie dann schon gut wabbeln/elastisch sind, dann stehen die Chancen gut, dass du eine gute Biegedicke hast. Wenn du magst, kannst du über meinen Instagram-Account Kontakt aufnehmen, dann kann ich dir einen kelienen Videoausschnitt schicken, in dem man sieht, wie ich das mache.
May i ask why we can't steam bend a mahogany wood for guitar sides?, and what would happend if we steam bend the mahogany... hoping for your reply... thank you.
Well, you can steam bend it but it goes back almost to its original form after 24 hours in the jig, so it simply doesn't keep the shape. I don't know the scientific explanation why some woods bend better than others and others don't. It most likely has to do with their properties, such as moisture, density, etc., which you can read up. Soft woods for instance don't bend well either. In wood libraries you'll find information about steam bending properties of woods. Unfortunately not all, so you will have to try to find out.
@@GabiM3112 thank you very much for your advice ma'am... it's a big help. I'm planing to make the steam box process for guitar sides but i am worried because the common wood we have here is mahogany... thank you again for your reply and to all your inspiring videos... such a big help for us... more power to you.
@@zeetekton1016 You will have to bend mahogany over a hot pipe. That works well but to me that's tedious work.
? can I ask what woods you have had success steam bending so far ?
@@rickeydenler2385 Err... see video description and 0:59.