Related videos: Common Mistakes You Might be Making with Your PC Fan Setup ruclips.net/video/uPIMv30Vs3w/видео.html AIO Coolers and Fan Compatibility ruclips.net/video/Mm85qMEYlDI/видео.html Push Pull mistakes to avoid with all in one coolers ruclips.net/video/_gA71wF9Ewc/видео.html Avoid these problems with your all in one CPU cooler ruclips.net/video/nVkN8diBIAE/видео.html Specs of this build: Case - NZXT H7 Flow RGB ruclips.net/video/hiLd5wTPuMI/видео.html Motherboard - Gigabyte Aorus Z790 Elite AX ruclips.net/video/8WK7VmuxFxo/видео.html CPU - Intel Core i5-13600K RAM - Crucial Pro 32GB Kit (2x16GB) DDR5-5600 NVMe SSD - Corsair MP600 GS (ruclips.net/video/8DTAiS5pPPs/видео.html) PSU - Corsair RM1000e PSU (ruclips.net/video/FUnfuF6nSVw/видео.html) GPU - Gigabyte RTX 4070 TI 12G OC ruclips.net/video/_-bu6qDqeWA/видео.html Fans - NZXT Core RGB (ruclips.net/video/mPRrPGjV_jo/видео.html) AIO cooler - NZXT Kraken Elite 280mm ruclips.net/video/G5r3SG3ACwE/видео.html
The question was: why wasn't I subscribed? You've guided me through my rebuild and now re-placement, and Lian-li fan config too! Keep up the great work!
AIO front or side mounted and top exhaust will give the best results. Top mounted AIO will work with all the heat put out by the GPU, hence your results.
@@triplocorethis is exactly what i wanted to know , it confuses me , isnt the radiator front mounted blowing hot air inside the case ? I want to change my 120 mm cput cooler that i have on the back exhausting by a 360 mm front mount , but im scared to have issues doing that as i cant mount a 360 on the top having a smaller case
@@WaZarooo Honestly, I chose to use my AIO as an exhaust fan. My logic was that my CPU already has better refrigeration (AIO), while my GPU only has the standard cooling system. So, the GPU would suffer much more from the hot air than the CPU.
Phenomenal explanation. I consider myself a novice even with years of experience. So much you can learn from others. But there's even fewer who articulate it well. Great work!
Finally a video that discusses fan direction relating to mounting location. I have glass on two sides of the case. The location that's makes the most sense for my build is side mounting near the front of the case. But I wanted to be sure I was ok flipping the fans around since they need to be intake in that location. Really appreciate your look at fan orientation relative to the radiator. Everyone seems to be exhausting hot PC air through the radiator. It just didn't sit well with me.
The most BASIC rule of thumb, like the 1+1 = 2 logic used in math equivalence in AIO mount is that "AIR BUBBLEs OR AIR IN GENERAL WHEN IN A SEALED SYSTEM LIKES TO BE AT TOP" to test this get a bottle of water with some air in it, now notice how NO MATTER WHICH orientation you flipped, turned, twisted it as long as the cap is closed on the bottle the air in at the TOP. When you have it standing the airs staying by the cap of the bottle when you have it laying flat the air spread out through out the bottle but still AT THE TOP. Now use that logic we just tested to when you mount your AIO main goal here is to get the air as above and far away from the CPU as possible. So we are try to orient the radiator at the top or at least in a way the water is as far as possible from the cpu. Think of the whole system close your eyes and imagine it as a water bottle with some air. The bottle cap as your pump and the body of the water bottle as your radiator and pipes. Now think up a orientation to get the air as far, up and away from the cap of your imaginary bottle. Literally if you ever played with a bottle of water as a kid and watched the air bubbles inside swish around as you moved, shaked and jerked it around this explanation should click.
1 - Front mounted with push pull fans (four fans total) C: 78 G: 65 M: 90 H: 77.9 2 - Front mounted with just the NZXT Core fans pulling air C: 82 G: 66 M: 90 H: 77.4 3 - Top mounted with the fans set to exhaust C: 88 G: 66 M: 90 H: 77.8
i replaced my top mount exhaust to side mount intake (pull) and it does make difference. Thanks for confirming my idea of side mount/front mount intake makes it more cooler for cpu yet does not increase motherboard and southbridge temps
I like your video, you are right in that there is so much that is misunderstood about placement of an AIO. One of the most agree upon, about the head can never higher than the cooler, is unfortunately also the hardest misconceptions to kill! Air does, as we all know, raise, it'll never go down. If you start out, before installing to raise the cooler fare above the head so all the air can raise to the top of the cooler, and you now start by mounting the cooler vertically with the hoses at the bottom. Then will the air stay in the top of the cooler and will never be able to go down through the water, out the hoses and up to the head. So even if you mount the head way above the cooler, is it still impossible for the air to ever reach the head. The best way to mount the cooler, is, as you do, in the side with the fans blowing through the cooler and outside, still with the hoses at the bottom. That way do you prevent heat from the CPU in going inside, you get air direct from your from intake and even if your cooler should lose 50% of its liquid, will it all stay at the bottom, and the air will stay at the top of the cooler.
If I had a dollar for every time I've had to educated someone who didn't comprehend and/or understand What they'd watched in the GN video, and spouted 3rd hand misinformation all over reddit (for example) I'd be able to buy a watercooled 4090.
I have the same top mounted exhaust setup that you have with an I7-14700 K and a 4080, after I switched off my rear exhaust fan, there has been significant improvement in cooling with lesser noise. Also, I am having less dust in the case that was happening due to the negative pressure caused by the rear fan.
I've watched a ton of videos about the ideal mounting spots for the AIO and found that the top mounting method was the best one so far. I tried side mounting my AIO but it didn't really make much of a difference temp wise. I debated on doing a push/pull combo but looking around it doesn't really benefit much temp wise for an AIO. Thanks for the informative video either way!
@@norkris8729 "Radiator mounted at the front with the tube side at the bottom One good mounting position is to mount the radiator of the cooler at the frontal area of the case interior. The side of the radiator where the tubes connect should be at the bottom, and the pump should be mounted in a position where it is slightly lower than the top of the radiator, where air is captured. Radiator mounted on top of the case with tubes down One good mounting position is to place the radiator at the top of the case with the tubes pointing downwards. This ensures the pump is below the radiator and that air will sit at the top of the loop and not be sucked into the tubes." Almost every video is taken verbatim above......so you can literally do either or........
because there is no "best". With radiator on top, you will have better GPU temps, but worse CPU temps. Radiator in front, it's the other way around. Personally I mounted my Arctic Liquid freezer II (280mm version) in the front and it's all good.@@norkris8729
Great video, nice discussion. Personally, I'm mounting my new build with the rad on top so I'll be ok. But I also think criticism of front mount/hoses down is overblown. Wouldn't an easy precautionary step be to flip the case on its side once a month or so and let the pump run for a while? This would tend to force bubbles out of the pump head/water block and into the rad. Then when the case is rotated to its normal position, the bubbles would move to the top of the rad.
I'd love to see a video on cable tidying tips. I'm about to try out some 90 degree USB 3 and USB 3.2 headers so the front panel cables go parallels to the motherboard but I'm wondering if there's any downsides (signal issues, reduced power, etc.). Likewise, I'm curious if there any any 90 degree or C shaped connectors for 600w GPU cables since bending them or hitting the glass can be hard on the plug.
Was there a need to put the dust filter on top with the top mounted exhaust setup? Maybe the top mounted setup would have run a little cooler with less impediment?
At @2:23, the AIO is 280mm? Did you had enough space to mount 3 x 140mm in front of the H7 Flow case? Do you reckon in this setup, 2x140mm top exhaust fans will work? I can see you have 3x120mm. I want to buy this case for this combo: Arctic Freezer II 280, push pull front mount, tubes down. 1 more Arctic F14 in front, blowing air under the shroud 1 exhaust 140mm in the back 2 exhaust 140mm on top
It would be interesting to see GPU benchmark being done for each of these setups. It makes sense that with the 1st and 2nd setup where CPU radiator got fresh air (as intake) the CPU temp was lower. The question is how would it affect the GPU when it's under heavy load. Ultimately it would be nice to see a CPU+GPU based benchmark which would be close to real life scenario (e.g. gaming).
It makes sense that with the 1st and 2nd setup where CPU radiator got fresh air (as intake) the CPU temp was lower. The question is how would it affect the GPU when it's under heavy load.
GPU is going to be a few degrees more hot when you have the radiator pulling air from outside the case but only in extreme scenarios like running a cpu stress test and gpu stress test. In normal gaming use the cpu is never going to reach high enough temps to affect the gpu. On the other hand when you have the radiator as exhaust (e.g. top mount) the cpu temps are going to always be higher, even during gaming because the gpu usually is getting hot. It all comes down to aesthetics. I prefer top mounted radiators just because my pc looks better this way. Hope this helps.
Thank you, your videos are always so informative and this was no exception. I usually go with front mounted push/pull because it just felt right to me, but as you said its not always possible and it really depends on your build/case.
If I don't care about aesthetics should I have my tubes down? I plan on having a setup similar to yours except the bottom fans, just radiator as intake on the side, exausts at the top and back of the case. Also should I have fans on both sides of the radiator? My case looks similar to a lian li o11.
AIO and Fan placement is a hot topic guaranteed to produce some debate. This video shows some options and gives valid reasons for Do's and Dont's ! There is a video titled "Lian Li O11D Evo - Fan Placement" by Kleo Yan that I find very instructive too !
I'm currently building up a new system right now (looking at 7950X3D and RTX4070) and this + the Lian Li Uni v2 videos, as well as a few more of your videos, have helped me understand a lot more. The last time i built a computer was around the time that the Ryzen 2000 series and RX580 were brand new, so i have a lot to learn!
that cpu go along with RTX4090 or RX7900xtx only .. u should get i5 Intel or R7 AMD .. personally i use R9 7900x3d+RX7900xtx and i have bottleneck like5% only ( less than6% is fine for multitasking like 3D rendering editting etc )
Brilliant explanation. Had so many questions about aio orientation and push pull. Watched many vids and just confusing. All the answers were right in this vid. Thx mate. Subscribed 🎉
Did you normalize/fix fan speeds? More likely the top mounted build had the 3090 fan running slower. It is also interesting to measure VRM temperatures and inside case air temperature, which are likely better in the top mounted build.
I am building a 14700K/4080s system with a beQuiet Shadow 800fx case. I am going to be using the Arctic Freezer 420 RGB. My idea was to move the front 3 factory installed 140mm fans in the case which are set as intake, and relocate them to the top as exhaust (the case natively supports 3x140mm fans at the top, just not included), and then put the radiator of the AIO in place of them as the front intake. There is also a spot for a 140mm fan on the bottom, so I will buy an extra light wings fan to put there as intake. So it will be bottom intake, front intake with 420 radiator, and rear and top exhaust. This is where I am stuck. Should I even be removing the front fans included with the case? The radiator does fit behind them just fine - the fans are pre installed as 3 intake fans at the front as said, I could add the radiator behind them as an intake also.. Would this work? Or is it better to move them as I suggested above? If I leabe them there I'll need to buy 3 extra fans for the top anyway for exhaust. all the tests I have seen favour front mount radiator intake to top mount exhaust when it comes to cpu temps and when using an open air GPU, just don't know whether to leave the front case fans where they are or have the radiator fans as the sole air intake mechanism.. TIA!
I just got through dealing with this as I upgraded to AM5 and went from a 240mm AIO to a 360mm Ryujinn III. I have a heavy glass-sided Digital Storm Velox with three intake front 140mm fans, 2 exhaust 140mm top mounted fans a MB-side intake 140mm fan and a rear mounted 140mm exhaust fan. I have my AIO radiator mounted hose side up in front because the hoses can't clear the SATA cage flipped the other way. I tried today to top mount it after pulling the two exhaust fans, but it's too big, I'd have to drill more holes, and the hoses would never clear my 342mm long RTX4080 OC. So I returned the radiator to the front, flipped the three 140mm fans on it around so they're exhaust, and put the top fans back in and flipped them so they're intake. Before I did this, I was idling somewhere around 44C-50C after having been a little lower previously, with opening a bunch of tabs, starting a game, or simply booting running the Tctl/Tdie up to 84.2C when I've got thermal throttling in BIOS set to 85C. Now I am idling around 35C-38C, averaging between 42C-53C, and my max so far has been 75.1C. I guess I still have the goods. This is with a Ryzen 7 7800X3D where the comfortable limit is something like 88C and absolute max is 95C.
@@TheProvokedPrawn Just about to build and have a the Kracken 360 going in the h6 flow. Would you suggest just top mounting it. So it would be suck through the bottom and front/side, exhaust through the back and top. Read some comments saying you don't really want to suck through the rad because it will warm the air coming in and will mostly effect GPU because the CPU is being cooled by the block anyway.
I was under the impression that exhausting through the rad wasn't particularly favourable. Until, I read a reddit post that detailed the benefits and drawbacks. Supposedly, your cpu will be hotter but your gpu should be slightly cooler and vice versa depending on if you exhaust or intake through the rad. Not sure how true this is but the guy explained it in a way that sounded logical.
correct .. u need to prior one of two >> cpu or gpu .. all cases are designed in aesthetic pattern neglecting the engineer CFM functionality .. i would love to get sponsered by any factory and will design one that outcome the best out of what is been sold out in market nowadays ... this what happen when u ask a marketing guy to design an engineer product.
Hello! first of all congratulations for this video! I have installed my water cooling in the front and i want to use push pulling. I have three more casefuns on top of my tower and one casefun behind. can you please tell me which direction the watercooling fans should face? the front fans of the radiator must give air in the radiotor and the rear fans must extract the air from the radiator into the box; and the rear fan to blow the air out again? finally, should the fans on the top be pushing air down to cool the case or up to blow hot air out? thank you.
ty for video I have my 280mm rad mounted in the top 2 front fan slots with 140mm fan mounted in the front lowest slot. I have 2 140mm exhaust fans up top and 120 mm exhaust at the rear. My rad hoses are on the bottom of the radiator and the fans push air through rad. This makes the most sense to me as I have vega 64 and its hot. I didn't want the hot air coming off gpu and being pulled up through rad heat soaking it. My top exhaust fans are connected to cpu temp so as my cpu heats up those top fans increase to rip the hot radiator air out of the case. Rear exhaust fan is based on gpu temp to pull that heat out the back. That front lower fan feeds cool air into the gpu. I haven't ever seen temps saturate high and I've left my pc on all night running satisfactory
I have my Corsair H155i 280mm AIO vertically mounted, in my TT view 71 case. I found it to have the best results. Since my AIO is intaking fresh air from my front 120mm x3 fans. I have a 13600k, OC to 5.5ghz on all Pcores, and i don't go above 58c for gaming.
I did install the radiator on my PC in the front with the tubes at the bottom, just as you showed, with just 2 fans pulling air, but I was thinking about adding 2 more fans pushing air to make it a little more efficient, but, it's going to start the rainy season where I live so I don't think it's going to be necessary.
Great video, thanks for posting. As im new to AIO's i was wondering about this myself and wanted to test different setups, you just saved me a lot of time
Hey a very interesting video, I have a question you don't seem to have tested i have the nzxt 53 can I mount that on rear of 011 vision compact as exhaust?
I don’t see anyone having a top mount as an exhaust but with the fans pulling air, could this be cause it’s not a good configuration? I can see the benefit of it being easier to clean dirt/dust buildup.
I'm in a place that's mostly warm most of the year, so what is the best orientation for me? From what I understood from this video and Jayztwocents's video that I need to put it as an intake on the front, which gives you lower temps? I just don't want it to get too hot. Every degree counts.
what about a pump that is in the radiator (Gamdias Chione E4), and only option due to the case (Montech XR) is to mount to the top? I suppose no choice then.
I have a question. What about AIOs like the Fractal Lumen with the pump integrated into the radiator? would it still be okay to top mount? they do it in all their advertisements but it wouldn't be the first company to advertise improper mounting of their product ever...
I am planing to buy an Arctic Liquid Freezer III 280 but there is not enough space on the top of the case, I am wondering if front mounting would work...?
Excuse me, for fancase in the bottom why do you prefer intake than mix 2 outtake for vga, and 1 intake. In my case because i had twin fan vga not triple fan, isn't it 2 outtake on the bottom of vga maximize the heat out fastly and the airflow become more stable inside? Please cmiiw and give me your reason
Hey so I have a 360mm aio I’m trying to find the best way to set it . Should if I mount it at the top should I push air out and have the front fans pulling air in . Or the opposite have the top fans pulling air in and the front ones pushing air out ?
Is it okay if my cooler hoses are up top of the cooler instead of bottom or side while the radiator is on top of case? building my first pc and i did that
I have a Corsair H170i 420 mm mounted at the front of my Lian Li Meshify III and I am looking at getting the new Corsair Link version but I am unsure as to whether it will fit due to what seems to be an extra protrusion at the top of the radiator for the "link" components.
Tubes can also be a problem sometimes, I buyed a silent loop 2 240mm from be quite and planned it mount at top, but tubes are long and hard to bend, it forced me to choose a front mount in fractal design pop air.
I have a Lian Li 011 Air Mini and just purchased a 280 AIO that I'm planning on top mounting. The only problem is I am getting mixed opinions on whether I can top mount a 280 AIO with an ATX mobo in this case. I've never mounted a rad anywhere but on top so i'm trying to do as much research as possible incase I have to mount it in the front. I guess I'll find out in a few hours when I go pick up the AIO.
another thing that can affect you is if you have too many exhaust fans and not enough intake fans, the air flow can get slowed. so if you have 3 intake front, 3 exhaust bottom, 2 exhaust radiator top, and 1 exhaust back, the positive pressure can create turbulence with the top exhaust, effectively slowing down the air flow through the radiator.
Nice explanation, thanks a lot. Sums up Gamer Jesus video quite well. I however have my radiator top mounted on a Pure Base 500DX. I am going to swap to an Antec C5 and was wondering if I could side mount the 240mm Arctic Freeze 3 rad on the side using those case fans. Since it has bottom intake I think the GPU will be fine but I still haven't even seen if it will fit
Hello, I don't know if the previous message came out, I have questions...I wanted to know if this master cooler works for any Ryzen processor and does it not need thermal paste to control the temperature? or does it just set and that's it? Excuse my ignorance but I would like to know.
I want to place on the side to push hot air outside but the only downside is that will be negative pressure inside the case, i have Asus gt520 case which is quite similar to this one
Which case is this? I cannot mount my icue H115i into my Corsair Obsidian 650d or the Corsair 400d which Ebuyer told me would easily fit. I'm thiking now I'm gonna have to do some radical mount; missing my MSFS2020, and the warranty clock is ticking on all the new parts.
I just recently bought a Nzxt Kraken elite 280. I top mounted the rad. My question is, should the aio pump tubes be facing 3 o'clock. Or is it fine having them facing 6 o'clock
hi i want a 2x 120 mm aio in my zalman p30 white bud i dont know if i should side mount it or on top but because its a 2x not a 3x i dont know if its going to look good on top. i personaly think i want it on the side bud on the internet i see everyeone do it on top can you maybe give me some advise?
Great insight! If I may could I ask for some advice as I'm thinking of building a pc with an AiO in a mATX case and I want it to be as quiet as possible. Therefore I was thinking that a front mount would be better to avoid having any fans on the top as those disproportionally increase noise (don't they?) but this might be a little toasty and in turn increase the fan speed to keep the temps (in general I care more about noise than temps though). Or should I just do a top mount with standard front intake instead (so more fans in total)? Which config do you reckon has a lower noise level while browsing/gaming?
If you want low noise pc, all you need to do pickup low tdp parts, and buy high performance fan, set pwm to below 1.6k, 1k rpm will be the best but your CPU will be slightly hotter, you can't get low noise with high tdp parts and oc, your pc will keep pushing temp
Hey man. I’m going to build my pc outside of the case, obviously to check the parts work, so I’m getting a kraken 360 rgb so do I build it outside of the case? If so what are the mandatory cables to plug into and where. Like do I just plug cpu fan and sata power just so it cools my cpu while I check everything?
When using fans on a radiator, you want to use the PUMP fan socket on the motherboard, as this is set to 100% fan speed all the time, if you have to use Sys fan socket on the motherboard, you can go into you BIOS and set it to 100%, usually you Sys fan will speed up and down based on your CPU temps. They can all be adjusted in you BIOS
not sure why the NZXT cam software is not detecting the cooling to control the lcd display panel. The Rgb lightings are detected and can be controlled. Please help
@@TheProvokedPrawn yes the both Usbs are connected to the motherboard via the nzxt splitter. The lcd is also running and I can read the cpu temperature but the component is not detected in the Computer. I checked both device manager and the Nzxt cam software as well. It does not detect/show up anything.
How much of this directly translates to having an AIR CPU cooler and an AIO GPU cooler? I am using the Fractal North Mesh case and have had a serious 2 day struggle with getting my system cooled, having to revert the airflow to make it all fit and I am still seriously bothered that my current setup is going to be the downfall of the expense I made (previous system was from 2014).
i mounted my aio in my phantec case on top with the 2 fans running a i9 14900k keeping cpu cool enough,, i dont like mounting in front because of the hoses ,, instaling like new video card or other items
Hello! Im currently building a pc with a 4000d airflow. Im thinking of adding 360mm fans as intake and 280mm fans as top exhaust. Ill be using an air cooler for my 7600x cpu. Does this setup create positive air pressure in the case?? And will the cooling be sufficient for a 7900xt. Thanks!!
This video has been helpful in many ways, but the biggest issue I'm having is I'm getting confused by the numbers. The case says "up to 360", the AIO has "360" in it's name, but when I check the radiator dimensions, it's _larger_ than 360! How do I make sure it's _actually_ 360? Or does 360 in the name mean I can use it in a case that says "up to 360"?
The "360" is a reference to the fan size. A "360 AIO" is referring to a radiator which can hold three 120 mm fans which totals to "360" (120+120+120=360) This is the same for all AIO's.
@@TheProvokedPrawn ok thx for that, with the cables up or down? but if we put the cooller in front of the radiator is not better? to suck the air in the radiator than to be in the back of the radiator?
Cheers foe the vid, I have mounted coolers in many positions before but still good to get someone's else's perspective. For me I find little to non difference running the cooler front (tubes at the top higher than cpu) or top. My cpu idles at 60 - 63 ish, I feel that too hot, especially when posts on reddit talk about this cooler 20C lower. Running h150i, 5900X in a fractal R6. No door on front of case, and open top
I knew that the top would be hotter.. i mean hot air rises, so it's going to go right up to the rad. I've always set mine on the front or side.. brings in cool air all the time.
You can top mount a rad and the temp is still going to be fine you would think hot air rises but it all depends on the computer case and what kind of air pressure you have
When you have it top mounted, you are using the warm air already in the system for the radiator fans. That's why its hotter compared to when you have it vertically mounted in the front, which is drawing cooler air from outside the case.
I came to this video because I noticed my top-mounted rad was spitting out tonnes of hot air but the rear exhaust was actually cool air. This was during gaming and every load I threw at it. I was considering flipping the fan and making it an intake as well..!? Corsair 4000D with a 240mm AIO top mounted, 3 intake and 1 rear exhaust. Somebody suggested to run the AIO at the front which I might consider doing but I can't be bothered unless there's a huge gain to be had. Considering the AIO gets almost direct cool air anyway from the 2 upper fans at the front, I didn't think it was even worth it.
@@griffin1366 Hot air will rise up. For your current setup, its quite common to feel most of your hot air exhaust at the top while your single rear exhausts cooler air out the back. If you change your fan setup, just make sure you have neutral air pressure or positive air pressure, never do negative air pressure.
@@griffin1366 If you move the AIO to the front and draw cool air from outside the case then your CPU might drop 3-5c but now your GPU might get a bit warmer because you're exhausting your radiator air into your case.
@@tankerock I'm going to test it today. No idea what to expect. My biggest concern is RAM temps actually but this might help. GPU runs at 40-45C depending on the game (130-200W, RTX 2080). I was worried about negative pressure so I might just have 2 exhaust fans (1 rear, other top-rear about the motherboard etc.)
@@griffin1366 Your ram should be fine. But many people are concerned with their M.2 drives these days but there are heatsinks and thermal pads you can buy for that. Good luck with the changes, let me know how it goes when you're done.
So with all the cases you've tried and built in, you're liking the h9 flow for your main system right now? I'm about to build my first new build in 8 years, but I'm obsessing a little on the case decision
Actually I changed my AIO into the front with a push & pull and it optimized my CPU temps a lot. Needed to know that I use my pc for work and CPU rendering
The only place I could fit my 360 AIO was in the front of the case. I set the fans to intake air. 3 exhaust fans. Temps were 78 degrees peak on the GPU mem, core was a little toasty peaking at 76 degrees (3080) Not ideal to have heated air coming in the front off the cpu radiator, but a RYZEN 9 5900X doesn't produce all that much heat (peaked at 64 deg). I think the build will be fine.
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Specs of this build:
Case - NZXT H7 Flow RGB ruclips.net/video/hiLd5wTPuMI/видео.html
Motherboard - Gigabyte Aorus Z790 Elite AX ruclips.net/video/8WK7VmuxFxo/видео.html
CPU - Intel Core i5-13600K
RAM - Crucial Pro 32GB Kit (2x16GB) DDR5-5600
NVMe SSD - Corsair MP600 GS (ruclips.net/video/8DTAiS5pPPs/видео.html)
PSU - Corsair RM1000e PSU (ruclips.net/video/FUnfuF6nSVw/видео.html)
GPU - Gigabyte RTX 4070 TI 12G OC ruclips.net/video/_-bu6qDqeWA/видео.html
Fans - NZXT Core RGB (ruclips.net/video/mPRrPGjV_jo/видео.html)
AIO cooler - NZXT Kraken Elite 280mm ruclips.net/video/G5r3SG3ACwE/видео.html
The question was: why wasn't I subscribed? You've guided me through my rebuild and now re-placement, and Lian-li fan config too! Keep up the great work!
Thanks for subscribing eventually 😂👍🏼🦐
@@TheProvokedPrawn weird because I mounted a bottom fan on my h7 elite
AIO front or side mounted and top exhaust will give the best results. Top mounted AIO will work with all the heat put out by the GPU, hence your results.
Thank you so much
It's what I was thinking too, but if we do front mounted, the GPU wont take the heat from the AIO?
@@triplocorethis is exactly what i wanted to know , it confuses me , isnt the radiator front mounted blowing hot air inside the case ? I want to change my 120 mm cput cooler that i have on the back exhausting by a 360 mm front mount , but im scared to have issues doing that as i cant mount a 360 on the top having a smaller case
@@WaZarooo Honestly, I chose to use my AIO as an exhaust fan. My logic was that my CPU already has better refrigeration (AIO), while my GPU only has the standard cooling system. So, the GPU would suffer much more from the hot air than the CPU.
@@triplocore this what came to my head aswell , the gpu would suffer more then the cpu while the cpu already has a triple fan radiator colling
Phenomenal explanation. I consider myself a novice even with years of experience. So much you can learn from others. But there's even fewer who articulate it well. Great work!
Very kind, thank you
Finally a video that discusses fan direction relating to mounting location. I have glass on two sides of the case. The location that's makes the most sense for my build is side mounting near the front of the case. But I wanted to be sure I was ok flipping the fans around since they need to be intake in that location. Really appreciate your look at fan orientation relative to the radiator. Everyone seems to be exhausting hot PC air through the radiator. It just didn't sit well with me.
The most BASIC rule of thumb, like the 1+1 = 2 logic used in math equivalence in AIO mount is that "AIR BUBBLEs OR AIR IN GENERAL WHEN IN A SEALED SYSTEM LIKES TO BE AT TOP" to test this get a bottle of water with some air in it, now notice how NO MATTER WHICH orientation you flipped, turned, twisted it as long as the cap is closed on the bottle the air in at the TOP. When you have it standing the airs staying by the cap of the bottle when you have it laying flat the air spread out through out the bottle but still AT THE TOP. Now use that logic we just tested to when you mount your AIO main goal here is to get the air as above and far away from the CPU as possible. So we are try to orient the radiator at the top or at least in a way the water is as far as possible from the cpu. Think of the whole system close your eyes and imagine it as a water bottle with some air. The bottle cap as your pump and the body of the water bottle as your radiator and pipes. Now think up a orientation to get the air as far, up and away from the cap of your imaginary bottle. Literally if you ever played with a bottle of water as a kid and watched the air bubbles inside swish around as you moved, shaked and jerked it around this explanation should click.
1 - Front mounted with push pull fans (four fans total)
C: 78
G: 65
M: 90
H: 77.9
2 - Front mounted with just the NZXT Core fans pulling air
C: 82
G: 66
M: 90
H: 77.4
3 - Top mounted with the fans set to exhaust
C: 88
G: 66
M: 90
H: 77.8
@@JoJ0estar ya man and an end card with this exact information would be nice considering its the only thing this video is about
Thanks For these numbers
Thanks for this. I had no clue what he meant by “push pull” vs “standard”. Didn’t realize the first option employed four fans
FALSE! LIAR! BAN!
i replaced my top mount exhaust to side mount intake (pull) and it does make difference. Thanks for confirming my idea of side mount/front mount intake makes it more cooler for cpu yet does not increase motherboard and southbridge temps
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some of these guys did not watch the whole video and its showing. glad you did!
I like your video, you are right in that there is so much that is misunderstood about placement of an AIO.
One of the most agree upon, about the head can never higher than the cooler, is unfortunately also the hardest misconceptions to kill!
Air does, as we all know, raise, it'll never go down. If you start out, before installing to raise the cooler fare above the head so all the air can raise to the top of the cooler, and you now start by mounting the cooler vertically with the hoses at the bottom. Then will the air stay in the top of the cooler and will never be able to go down through the water, out the hoses and up to the head. So even if you mount the head way above the cooler, is it still impossible for the air to ever reach the head.
The best way to mount the cooler, is, as you do, in the side with the fans blowing through the cooler and outside, still with the hoses at the bottom. That way do you prevent heat from the CPU in going inside, you get air direct from your from intake and even if your cooler should lose 50% of its liquid, will it all stay at the bottom, and the air will stay at the top of the cooler.
If I had a dollar for every time I've had to educated someone who didn't comprehend and/or understand What they'd watched in the GN video, and spouted 3rd hand misinformation all over reddit (for example) I'd be able to buy a watercooled 4090.
Yarp
I have a 4090 water cooling system is on the list to do next !
Literally can’t educate someone on Reddit they think they know best despite there being common sense and proof and instructions on how to mount one.
It’s the most painful and frustrating thing.
So I'm building a PC in tower 300 is it hard to install a 360mm aio
I have the same top mounted exhaust setup that you have with an I7-14700 K and a 4080, after I switched off my rear exhaust fan, there has been significant improvement in cooling with lesser noise. Also, I am having less dust in the case that was happening due to the negative pressure caused by the rear fan.
I've watched a ton of videos about the ideal mounting spots for the AIO and found that the top mounting method was the best one so far. I tried side mounting my AIO but it didn't really make much of a difference temp wise. I debated on doing a push/pull combo but looking around it doesn't really benefit much temp wise for an AIO. Thanks for the informative video either way!
never seen any vid prove top is the best... all say front is best
@@norkris8729 "Radiator mounted at the front with the tube side at the bottom
One good mounting position is to mount the radiator of the cooler at the frontal area of the case interior. The side of the radiator where the tubes connect should be at the bottom, and the pump should be mounted in a position where it is slightly lower than the top of the radiator, where air is captured.
Radiator mounted on top of the case with tubes down
One good mounting position is to place the radiator at the top of the case with the tubes pointing downwards. This ensures the pump is below the radiator and that air will sit at the top of the loop and not be sucked into the tubes."
Almost every video is taken verbatim above......so you can literally do either or........
@@jaded265 radiator at the top of the case with the tubes pointing downwards? As opposed to what?
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because there is no "best". With radiator on top, you will have better GPU temps, but worse CPU temps. Radiator in front, it's the other way around. Personally I mounted my Arctic Liquid freezer II (280mm version) in the front and it's all good.@@norkris8729
Great video, nice discussion.
Personally, I'm mounting my new build with the rad on top so I'll be ok.
But I also think criticism of front mount/hoses down is overblown. Wouldn't an easy precautionary step be to flip the case on its side once a month or so and let the pump run for a while? This would tend to force bubbles out of the pump head/water block and into the rad. Then when the case is rotated to its normal position, the bubbles would move to the top of the rad.
Bubbles move to top so if highest point is the top of your rad youre good.
0:50 is it a problem when the aio tubes are close like this to the exhaust fan?
I'd love to see a video on cable tidying tips. I'm about to try out some 90 degree USB 3 and USB 3.2 headers so the front panel cables go parallels to the motherboard but I'm wondering if there's any downsides (signal issues, reduced power, etc.). Likewise, I'm curious if there any any 90 degree or C shaped connectors for 600w GPU cables since bending them or hitting the glass can be hard on the plug.
Was there a need to put the dust filter on top with the top mounted exhaust setup? Maybe the top mounted setup would have run a little cooler with less impediment?
At @2:23, the AIO is 280mm? Did you had enough space to mount 3 x 140mm in front of the H7 Flow case? Do you reckon in this setup, 2x140mm top exhaust fans will work? I can see you have 3x120mm. I want to buy this case for this combo:
Arctic Freezer II 280, push pull front mount, tubes down.
1 more Arctic F14 in front, blowing air under the shroud
1 exhaust 140mm in the back
2 exhaust 140mm on top
It would be interesting to see GPU benchmark being done for each of these setups. It makes sense that with the 1st and 2nd setup where CPU radiator got fresh air (as intake) the CPU temp was lower. The question is how would it affect the GPU when it's under heavy load. Ultimately it would be nice to see a CPU+GPU based benchmark which would be close to real life scenario (e.g. gaming).
It makes sense that with the 1st and 2nd setup where CPU radiator got fresh air (as intake) the CPU temp was lower. The question is how would it affect the GPU when it's under heavy load.
GPU is going to be a few degrees more hot when you have the radiator pulling air from outside the case but only in extreme scenarios like running a cpu stress test and gpu stress test. In normal gaming use the cpu is never going to reach high enough temps to affect the gpu.
On the other hand when you have the radiator as exhaust (e.g. top mount) the cpu temps are going to always be higher, even during gaming because the gpu usually is getting hot.
It all comes down to aesthetics. I prefer top mounted radiators just because my pc looks better this way. Hope this helps.
Thank you, your videos are always so informative and this was no exception. I usually go with front mounted push/pull because it just felt right to me, but as you said its not always possible and it really depends on your build/case.
Appreciate you.
If I don't care about aesthetics should I have my tubes down? I plan on having a setup similar to yours except the bottom fans, just radiator as intake on the side, exausts at the top and back of the case. Also should I have fans on both sides of the radiator? My case looks similar to a lian li o11.
Hello Sir we can side mount the radiator at the right in H9 elite is it recommended bu default, as the top is covered by glass without any issue
9:20 did you use any anit sag holder for this GPU or it's that good by default? I think Lian O11 comes with one you can mount "under" motherboard.
AIO and Fan placement is a hot topic guaranteed to produce some debate. This video shows some options and gives valid reasons for Do's and Dont's ! There is a video titled "Lian Li O11D Evo - Fan Placement" by Kleo Yan that I find very instructive too !
Hot topic. I see what you did there.
I'm currently building up a new system right now (looking at 7950X3D and RTX4070) and this + the Lian Li Uni v2 videos, as well as a few more of your videos, have helped me understand a lot more.
The last time i built a computer was around the time that the Ryzen 2000 series and RX580 were brand new, so i have a lot to learn!
Glad to help!
unless your doing video editor and production i would bump down the cpu to something like a r7 5700x
im a bit late but yeah
that cpu go along with RTX4090 or RX7900xtx only .. u should get i5 Intel or R7 AMD .. personally i use R9 7900x3d+RX7900xtx and i have bottleneck like5% only ( less than6% is fine for multitasking like 3D rendering editting etc )
@@oldschool_bamagatrader99607900x3d doesnt bottleneck 7900xtx. did u use a bottleneck calculator or this is info from ur system?
Brilliant explanation. Had so many questions about aio orientation and push pull. Watched many vids and just confusing. All the answers were right in this vid. Thx mate. Subscribed 🎉
Glad it was helpful!
Did you normalize/fix fan speeds? More likely the top mounted build had the 3090 fan running slower. It is also interesting to measure VRM temperatures and inside case air temperature, which are likely better in the top mounted build.
so basically if you have the chance to put your AIO side mounted is your best option?
I am building a 14700K/4080s system with a beQuiet Shadow 800fx case.
I am going to be using the Arctic Freezer 420 RGB.
My idea was to move the front 3 factory installed 140mm fans in the case which are set as intake, and relocate them to the top as exhaust (the case natively supports 3x140mm fans at the top, just not included), and then put the radiator of the AIO in place of them as the front intake. There is also a spot for a 140mm fan on the bottom, so I will buy an extra light wings fan to put there as intake.
So it will be bottom intake, front intake with 420 radiator, and rear and top exhaust.
This is where I am stuck. Should I even be removing the front fans included with the case? The radiator does fit behind them just fine - the fans are pre installed as 3 intake fans at the front as said, I could add the radiator behind them as an intake also.. Would this work? Or is it better to move them as I suggested above? If I leabe them there I'll need to buy 3 extra fans for the top anyway for exhaust.
all the tests I have seen favour front mount radiator intake to top mount exhaust when it comes to cpu temps and when using an open air GPU, just don't know whether to leave the front case fans where they are or have the radiator fans as the sole air intake mechanism..
TIA!
I just got through dealing with this as I upgraded to AM5 and went from a 240mm AIO to a 360mm Ryujinn III. I have a heavy glass-sided Digital Storm Velox with three intake front 140mm fans, 2 exhaust 140mm top mounted fans a MB-side intake 140mm fan and a rear mounted 140mm exhaust fan. I have my AIO radiator mounted hose side up in front because the hoses can't clear the SATA cage flipped the other way. I tried today to top mount it after pulling the two exhaust fans, but it's too big, I'd have to drill more holes, and the hoses would never clear my 342mm long RTX4080 OC. So I returned the radiator to the front, flipped the three 140mm fans on it around so they're exhaust, and put the top fans back in and flipped them so they're intake.
Before I did this, I was idling somewhere around 44C-50C after having been a little lower previously, with opening a bunch of tabs, starting a game, or simply booting running the Tctl/Tdie up to 84.2C when I've got thermal throttling in BIOS set to 85C. Now I am idling around 35C-38C, averaging between 42C-53C, and my max so far has been 75.1C. I guess I still have the goods. This is with a Ryzen 7 7800X3D where the comfortable limit is something like 88C and absolute max is 95C.
So the normal setup is to exhaust through the radiator at the top?
That's what most people do. But it's not always the most effective
@@TheProvokedPrawn Just about to build and have a the Kracken 360 going in the h6 flow. Would you suggest just top mounting it. So it would be suck through the bottom and front/side, exhaust through the back and top. Read some comments saying you don't really want to suck through the rad because it will warm the air coming in and will mostly effect GPU because the CPU is being cooled by the block anyway.
What's that "air" case at 8:20? It's a setup I'm looking for.
I did Top Mounted and getting very low temps.. Looks Cleaner as well.
What was the case at the end of the video? Is it a full tower where the psu is located behind the motherboard?
I was under the impression that exhausting through the rad wasn't particularly favourable. Until, I read a reddit post that detailed the benefits and drawbacks.
Supposedly, your cpu will be hotter but your gpu should be slightly cooler and vice versa depending on if you exhaust or intake through the rad.
Not sure how true this is but the guy explained it in a way that sounded logical.
Yeah that’s how it works
correct .. u need to prior one of two >> cpu or gpu .. all cases are designed in aesthetic pattern neglecting the engineer CFM functionality .. i would love to get sponsered by any factory and will design one that outcome the best out of what is been sold out in market nowadays ... this what happen when u ask a marketing guy to design an engineer product.
Nobody's stopping you. Design it, put your ideas out there. @@oldschool_bamagatrader9960
Should air be blowing out when side/front mounting the liquids cooler and how to know which way to face the fans
Hello! first of all congratulations for this video! I have installed my water cooling in the front and i want to use push pulling. I have three more casefuns on top of my tower and one casefun behind. can you please tell me which direction the watercooling fans should face? the front fans of the radiator must give air in the radiotor and the rear fans must extract the air from the radiator into the box; and the rear fan to blow the air out again? finally, should the fans on the top be pushing air down to cool the case or up to blow hot air out? thank you.
ty for video I have my 280mm rad mounted in the top 2 front fan slots with 140mm fan mounted in the front lowest slot. I have 2 140mm exhaust fans up top and 120 mm exhaust at the rear. My rad hoses are on the bottom of the radiator and the fans push air through rad. This makes the most sense to me as I have vega 64 and its hot. I didn't want the hot air coming off gpu and being pulled up through rad heat soaking it. My top exhaust fans are connected to cpu temp so as my cpu heats up those top fans increase to rip the hot radiator air out of the case. Rear exhaust fan is based on gpu temp to pull that heat out the back. That front lower fan feeds cool air into the gpu. I haven't ever seen temps saturate high and I've left my pc on all night running satisfactory
I have my Corsair H155i 280mm AIO vertically mounted, in my TT view 71 case. I found it to have the best results. Since my AIO is intaking fresh air from my front 120mm x3 fans. I have a 13600k, OC to 5.5ghz on all Pcores, and i don't go above 58c for gaming.
I did install the radiator on my PC in the front with the tubes at the bottom, just as you showed, with just 2 fans pulling air, but I was thinking about adding 2 more fans pushing air to make it a little more efficient, but, it's going to start the rainy season where I live so I don't think it's going to be necessary.
he did not show his front radiator with the tubes at the bottom(this is bad air can break the pump) he had the tubes going to the top.
Great video, thanks for posting.
As im new to AIO's i was wondering about this myself and wanted to test different setups, you just saved me a lot of time
Hey a very interesting video, I have a question you don't seem to have tested i have the nzxt 53 can I mount that on rear of 011 vision compact as exhaust?
I don’t see anyone having a top mount as an exhaust but with the fans pulling air, could this be cause it’s not a good configuration? I can see the benefit of it being easier to clean dirt/dust buildup.
Would you be able to a video for the best ait low system in a H9 flow? Appreciate the time you put into your videos!
3:08 What fan model is that? The octagonal?
Lian li sl120 v2
What about when the pump is mounted at the top of the radiator itself? A.K.A. Gamdias Chione E-4?
lol subscribed in less that 5 seconds just for the voice xD thanks for the info and short too, not like other channels that are +20min video long
Thanks for the sub! Other people hate my voice
I'm in a place that's mostly warm most of the year, so what is the best orientation for me? From what I understood from this video and Jayztwocents's video that I need to put it as an intake on the front, which gives you lower temps? I just don't want it to get too hot. Every degree counts.
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what about a pump that is in the radiator (Gamdias Chione E4), and only option due to the case (Montech XR) is to mount to the top? I suppose no choice then.
I have a question. What about AIOs like the Fractal Lumen with the pump integrated into the radiator? would it still be okay to top mount? they do it in all their advertisements but it wouldn't be the first company to advertise improper mounting of their product ever...
Can we have a list of components for the final build shown please as that looks fire!
I am planing to buy an Arctic Liquid Freezer III 280 but there is not enough space on the top of the case, I am wondering if front mounting would work...?
LOL when I saw this video in my subscription feed, I knew it was in response to the comments in the previous video.
I get sick of those comments but also I know people will want to know this so I thought I'd test while i was also doing other things.
Excuse me, for fancase in the bottom why do you prefer intake than mix 2 outtake for vga, and 1 intake. In my case because i had twin fan vga not triple fan, isn't it 2 outtake on the bottom of vga maximize the heat out fastly and the airflow become more stable inside? Please cmiiw and give me your reason
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front or top or back if possible depending on case
A simple graph comparing different setup would have higher reach for your video
Assuming I'd know how to do "simple" graphs in video assets
Hey so I have a 360mm aio I’m trying to find the best way to set it . Should if I mount it at the top should I push air out and have the front fans pulling air in . Or the opposite have the top fans pulling air in and the front ones pushing air out ?
Is it okay if my cooler hoses are up top of the cooler instead of bottom or side while the radiator is on top of case? building my first pc and i did that
I have a Corsair H170i 420 mm mounted at the front of my Lian Li Meshify III and I am looking at getting the new Corsair Link version but I am unsure as to whether it will fit due to what seems to be an extra protrusion at the top of the radiator for the "link" components.
Tubes can also be a problem sometimes, I buyed a silent loop 2 240mm from be quite and planned it mount at top, but tubes are long and hard to bend, it forced me to choose a front mount in fractal design pop air.
I have a Lian Li 011 Air Mini and just purchased a 280 AIO that I'm planning on top mounting. The only problem is I am getting mixed opinions on whether I can top mount a 280 AIO with an ATX mobo in this case. I've never mounted a rad anywhere but on top so i'm trying to do as much research as possible incase I have to mount it in the front. I guess I'll find out in a few hours when I go pick up the AIO.
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And
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Wouldn't the best configuration be having the tubes come out of the top of the block and the rad on top?
another thing that can affect you is if you have too many exhaust fans and not enough intake fans, the air flow can get slowed. so if you have 3 intake front, 3 exhaust bottom, 2 exhaust radiator top, and 1 exhaust back, the positive pressure can create turbulence with the top exhaust, effectively slowing down the air flow through the radiator.
I prefer: bottom and front should be intake, back and top should be exhaust
Nice explanation, thanks a lot. Sums up Gamer Jesus video quite well. I however have my radiator top mounted on a Pure Base 500DX. I am going to swap to an Antec C5 and was wondering if I could side mount the 240mm Arctic Freeze 3 rad on the side using those case fans. Since it has bottom intake I think the GPU will be fine but I still haven't even seen if it will fit
Hello, I don't know if the previous message came out, I have questions...I wanted to know if this master cooler works for any Ryzen processor and does it not need thermal paste to control the temperature? or does it just set and that's it? Excuse my ignorance but I would like to know.
I want to place on the side to push hot air outside but the only downside is that will be negative pressure inside the case, i have Asus gt520 case which is quite similar to this one
One thing I have been wondering is that if you only have a aio as your intake will air still flow into your system?
Hi i have a problem the psu to motherboard cable is in the way of the AIO how do i fix?
Which case is this? I cannot mount my icue H115i into my Corsair Obsidian 650d or the Corsair 400d which Ebuyer told me would easily fit. I'm thiking now I'm gonna have to do some radical mount; missing my MSFS2020, and the warranty clock is ticking on all the new parts.
I just recently bought a Nzxt Kraken elite 280. I top mounted the rad. My question is, should the aio pump tubes be facing 3 o'clock. Or is it fine having them facing 6 o'clock
I'm using 3 exhaust for rad and 1 intake at the back. Planning to add 3 more at the side for intake on my Dynamic Evo case
Front mount tubes down here. Mt only doubt was pump tubes left or right (mine is left)
hi i want a 2x 120 mm aio in my zalman p30 white bud i dont know if i should side mount it or on top but because its a 2x not a 3x i dont know if its going to look good on top. i personaly think i want it on the side bud on the internet i see everyeone do it on top can you maybe give me some advise?
Great insight! If I may could I ask for some advice as I'm thinking of building a pc with an AiO in a mATX case and I want it to be as quiet as possible. Therefore I was thinking that a front mount would be better to avoid having any fans on the top as those disproportionally increase noise (don't they?) but this might be a little toasty and in turn increase the fan speed to keep the temps (in general I care more about noise than temps though). Or should I just do a top mount with standard front intake instead (so more fans in total)? Which config do you reckon has a lower noise level while browsing/gaming?
If you want low noise pc, all you need to do pickup low tdp parts, and buy high performance fan, set pwm to below 1.6k, 1k rpm will be the best but your CPU will be slightly hotter, you can't get low noise with high tdp parts and oc, your pc will keep pushing temp
Hey man. I’m going to build my pc outside of the case, obviously to check the parts work, so I’m getting a kraken 360 rgb so do I build it outside of the case? If so what are the mandatory cables to plug into and where. Like do I just plug cpu fan and sata power just so it cools my cpu while I check everything?
Here's a guide on the smaller version of that cooler ruclips.net/video/Yg031U2dE6o/видео.html
Did you use fixed RPM's for all of the fans?
When using fans on a radiator, you want to use the PUMP fan socket on the motherboard, as this is set to 100% fan speed all the time, if you have to use Sys fan socket on the motherboard, you can go into you BIOS and set it to 100%, usually you Sys fan will speed up and down based on your CPU temps. They can all be adjusted in you BIOS
Is it true that top mounted radiator will run cpu warmer rather than on the side for example on lian li o11 dynamic evo?
I believe so, as the GPU heat will cause the CPU to get warm. So it depends on what you want, cooler CPU? Front or side mount as intake for the AIO
not sure why the NZXT cam software is not detecting the cooling to control the lcd display panel. The Rgb lightings are detected and can be controlled. Please help
Have you connected the USB from the pump to the motherboard.
@@TheProvokedPrawn yes the both Usbs are connected to the motherboard via the nzxt splitter. The lcd is also running and I can read the cpu temperature but the component is not detected in the Computer. I checked both device manager and the Nzxt cam software as well. It does not detect/show up anything.
How much of this directly translates to having an AIR CPU cooler and an AIO GPU cooler? I am using the Fractal North Mesh case and have had a serious 2 day struggle with getting my system cooled, having to revert the airflow to make it all fit and I am still seriously bothered that my current setup is going to be the downfall of the expense I made (previous system was from 2014).
That last PC case, where was the power supply?
side fans are intake if radiator on top?. also tubes down?
My Temparture missing from the AIO, any suggestion?
i mounted my aio in my phantec case on top with the 2 fans running a i9 14900k keeping cpu cool enough,, i dont like mounting in front because of the hoses ,, instaling like new video card or other items
I got a question should I get the same liquid cooler brand as my other fans
Hello! Im currently building a pc with a 4000d airflow. Im thinking of adding 360mm fans as intake and 280mm fans as top exhaust. Ill be using an air cooler for my 7600x cpu. Does this setup create positive air pressure in the case?? And will the cooling be sufficient for a 7900xt. Thanks!!
if my case have alredy fans mounted on the top i have to remove them and place the aio?
It's important to note that if you live in space, you can fit the AIO at the bottom due to no gravity.
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This video has been helpful in many ways, but the biggest issue I'm having is I'm getting confused by the numbers. The case says "up to 360", the AIO has "360" in it's name, but when I check the radiator dimensions, it's _larger_ than 360! How do I make sure it's _actually_ 360? Or does 360 in the name mean I can use it in a case that says "up to 360"?
Yes
@@TheProvokedPrawn Thank you! Now just need to finish saving and get started.
The "360" is a reference to the fan size. A "360 AIO" is referring to a radiator which can hold three 120 mm fans which totals to "360" (120+120+120=360) This is the same for all AIO's.
does aio pump's tube orientation matters?
Is 6 in take 1 exhaust fans idea with 3 120 fans in the front as intake 360mm rad top mounted intake and 1 exhaust 120mm back fan
so i don't get it, wich one is the best setup, for having lower temperatures, front, up, side?????
Depends on the case, but in my experience front mounting or side mounting as intake gives the best cooling performance.
@@TheProvokedPrawn ok thx for that, with the cables up or down?
but if we put the cooller in front of the radiator is not better? to suck the air in the radiator than to be in the back of the radiator?
Last time In learned about pump is it os supposed to bring liquid to a higher level. So i don’t see a reason to put the fans under
i want to know, if I only had 3 120mm intake front fans, but the 2 fan 240mm AIO exhausting, would that work??
Possible but depends on your CPU. Worth testing yourself
Cheers foe the vid, I have mounted coolers in many positions before but still good to get someone's else's perspective. For me I find little to non difference running the cooler front (tubes at the top higher than cpu) or top. My cpu idles at 60 - 63 ish, I feel that too hot, especially when posts on reddit talk about this cooler 20C lower.
Running h150i, 5900X in a fractal R6. No door on front of case, and open top
I knew that the top would be hotter.. i mean hot air rises, so it's going to go right up to the rad. I've always set mine on the front or side.. brings in cool air all the time.
You can top mount a rad and the temp is still going to be fine you would think hot air rises but it all depends on the computer case and what kind of air pressure you have
Does it matter where the tubes are (right or left)?
so push pull is undoubtably the best right? well. at least in your scenario it outstandingly is
It depends on the case but yes it makes a difference in my testing and experience
Where i have to plug in water cooler i have 280mm arctic aio_fan or cpu_fan
When you have it top mounted, you are using the warm air already in the system for the radiator fans. That's why its hotter compared to when you have it vertically mounted in the front, which is drawing cooler air from outside the case.
I came to this video because I noticed my top-mounted rad was spitting out tonnes of hot air but the rear exhaust was actually cool air. This was during gaming and every load I threw at it. I was considering flipping the fan and making it an intake as well..!?
Corsair 4000D with a 240mm AIO top mounted, 3 intake and 1 rear exhaust.
Somebody suggested to run the AIO at the front which I might consider doing but I can't be bothered unless there's a huge gain to be had. Considering the AIO gets almost direct cool air anyway from the 2 upper fans at the front, I didn't think it was even worth it.
@@griffin1366 Hot air will rise up. For your current setup, its quite common to feel most of your hot air exhaust at the top while your single rear exhausts cooler air out the back. If you change your fan setup, just make sure you have neutral air pressure or positive air pressure, never do negative air pressure.
@@griffin1366 If you move the AIO to the front and draw cool air from outside the case then your CPU might drop 3-5c but now your GPU might get a bit warmer because you're exhausting your radiator air into your case.
@@tankerock I'm going to test it today. No idea what to expect. My biggest concern is RAM temps actually but this might help.
GPU runs at 40-45C depending on the game (130-200W, RTX 2080).
I was worried about negative pressure so I might just have 2 exhaust fans (1 rear, other top-rear about the motherboard etc.)
@@griffin1366 Your ram should be fine. But many people are concerned with their M.2 drives these days but there are heatsinks and thermal pads you can buy for that. Good luck with the changes, let me know how it goes when you're done.
So with all the cases you've tried and built in, you're liking the h9 flow for your main system right now?
I'm about to build my first new build in 8 years, but I'm obsessing a little on the case decision
No, this is my daily driver ruclips.net/video/1W4kzU6574Y/видео.html
Actually I changed my AIO into the front with a push & pull and it optimized my CPU temps a lot. Needed to know that I use my pc for work and CPU rendering
The only place I could fit my 360 AIO was in the front of the case. I set the fans to intake air. 3 exhaust fans. Temps were 78 degrees peak on the GPU mem, core was a little toasty peaking at 76 degrees (3080)
Not ideal to have heated air coming in the front off the cpu radiator, but a RYZEN 9 5900X doesn't produce all that much heat (peaked at 64 deg). I think the build will be fine.