Echo farming is currently the only content left to do once you complete everything else, and so to see so little tuners being rewarded in tacet fields is outrageous. As of right now, the only way of obtaining tuners in bulk is to wait for events every patch. They really need to fix it soon.
the rewards are bullshit but you also gotta think if you compare to genshin, WUWA isn't locked between spesific days of the week so you can get alot every day of the week still could give us a bit more on weekly bosses
@@christophermauro-barias7451 never said it was good but you gotta look at both negative and positive yes artifacts are easier but say you roll a weapon for furina and you cant level it until friday because its locked cant plan for that so you gotta wait. Im not saying weekly bosses and echos are perfect but you always gotta look at both sides
@MrCocoNutter that's not even a negative becuase you have the elemental reaction to carry you you can just user another weapon til then ppl plus that's a bad comparison lots of ppl just go festering desire or a favonious weapon in the first place lots of ww players say since beta the echo system is a night mare they haven't done shit to improve it since 1.1 they got time but it's awful.
ok thats fair and once again i might not have made it clear and thats my bad yes i agree that the game needs to be reworked echos are Just not where it could be right now but thats not what im defending im saying the rewards for charecters and weapon mats are open all week so it makes sense you get less from it still IMO should be more but I can see why they dont wanna Just hand you alot right away
Even at U50 the weekly drops are 3-4 from my experience. I didn't expect U60 to still be dropping only 3. Though with that being said I want to be fair since Kuro buffed tacets for 1.1 patch. I want to give them the benefit of the doubt and say that the "late game" rewards will be subject to change later on when MOST of the player base actually reaches that level. Currently only people who spent currency on waveplates since release are 60 and above, which is not even that high of a percentage compared to the rest.
52 UL here, there are so many other ways to get echo xp! do your illusionary realm and buy out from the gacha shop. ive gotten 4 toons to max tallents (now i can only go up to level 8) and 2 others to about half way there. full level 25 echos on them and swap healer set and the buffer set with the other toons. Grind your ore and get your free materials from the different shops around the world. they reset every week. i only buy the $5 daily pass and have been doing so since the start of the game and never used my asterite to refresh. my only problem is shell creidits, this issue was more apparent for me at the start, now im all caught up. i don't need to level echoes on every toon. echoes and weapons can be swapped
WuWa...if you are reading this, AGAIN I say this....LISTEN TO GOOD FEEDBACKS ESPECIALLY FROM GOOD CONTENT CREATORS AND PLAYERS....if you want to sell upgrade boxes (that contains resonators and upgrades for skills/weapons/etc)....LEARN TO CALIBRATE THE SHOP AND STORE ACCORDING TO FEEDBACK.
Ive seen a lot of comparisons to genshins resin system, and while i think wuwa does alot of things id love to see genshin do, the resin system is not one of them, while it's true that the materials are not locked to specific days, since genshin only cost like 20 per run on most things, and you can buy a guaranteed extra 60 resin a week and set aside 5 condensed. You can get a lot of whatever you're aiming to grind on the given day. And since artifacts aren't locked to specific days, you can also grind those out however much as you want/can everyday One fragile resin equates to 3 artifact/ talent runs or 2 weekly bosses. As where in wuwa it would equate to one single run of a boss/weekly/or tacet field while giving pretty much the same value in drops as one run in genshin. I really hope they address this issue in a future update. The cost of rewards is kind of abysmal.
The issue isn’t the rewards themselves tbh, the earlier levels are generous relative to how much you need to build. Getting a character to level 60 with decent skill levels isn’t too bad It’s that the rewards don’t scale as much as they should once you reach higher UL and try to start building to 80 Resources become extremely thin at that point but rewards don’t scale up with the requirements
Unlike genshin, domain in wuthering waves is locked to your world level/SOL phase (compared to locked to account level in genshin) So if you just want to chill in the open world and fight less powerful monsters, you have to cope with domains providing less materials. The only domains that aren't affected by world level are the weekly bosses World bosses and leyline equivalent in wuwa affected by world level? I can understand that because genshin does the same. But material domains max level being locked behind world level? That i can't tolerate
What they need to implement is the same energy storing system like in HSR, let us continue earning energy after reaching our energy cap and store it (this should be the norm for these big gacha games). Echo system and energy system needs to be looked at by Kuro 100% and ofc the rewards.
There're actually many ways you can get echo xp if you know where to look (for example, you can craft echo xp now with mats from the new area). But I do agree that they need to buff TF reward to feel more rewarding. Making players able to try their luck with maxing out 1 echo every 1-2 day is healthy for the game, unlike GI where you have plenty of upgrading mats but the pieces worthy of leveling up are only dropped in like once per 3 months.
hey random question. So I’ve been farming echos. And for some reason I can see the gold echos in my inventory but when I go and change it in character under echos, it won’t be there. Any idea why?
sorry for bringing up genshin but bosses there are dropping mostly 2x at highest world difficulty, sometimes it drops 3 but rarely(like 1/3 chance or maybe lower). if wuwa at UL60 gives guaranteed 3x mats, i;ll take that as a win
Its not enough, by what standard? Kuro cant allow player max their character in a day even tho they farmed maximum stage. Tell me other gacha games that give you so much material in a day that let you upgrade character instantly to the max. Im legit curious.
The way that people don't seem to get this is insane to me. People really think it's ok to "finish" a gacha game like this in a month, and that by reaching that goal they'd be showered with rewards and become the king of the world. It's like they don't realize that 90% of the other people playing the game actually have priorities and a life.
Was wondering as well. I have heard it takes forever to have solid stats in GI. In wuwa it's easy to farm for echoes with solid stats. I see people already having solid stats for multiple characters. Hmmm.
There has to be a grind and this is where they put the grind. Something that can constantly improve if you keep doing it over and over and over. If everyone could have perfect echoes in one month there's not really any reason to keep playing daily.
You cant reach UL 60 without refreshing using astrite as of today. I do daily, used all the item to refresh waveplate, only 52. Abd i already maxed out every area
chill bro, even if they give you more. the player will not stop complaining. I'm at Level 60 too and I don't think that letting player progress faster is a good thing for the game.
Hi, what does this mean? Sorry I just kinda just started playing. We can mine echo exp? If yes, where please I'm having a hard time levelling my echoes. 😭
im ul 52 and ive never gotten a gold domain drop .... its so bad i barley have 1 and almost 2 talents maxed on chars after a month of playing every day its wack when have a backlog of characters to buiild its a major problem
Yeah the rewards are dog shit.. i really do hope they do something about it. Their big thing was that you could endlessly grind echos without using stamina but what good is it if i cant even tune them?! What good is farming 2k echos if i can't even roll them to build my characters.. i don't mind grinding either but not when im getting blocked in the end..
I think people have the wrong mindset with this, this is a gacha at the end of the day, you shouldn’t get progress super easily, don’t make this your main game or any gacha games for that matter and you’ll be fine.
@@Saberdud this isn't my main game and I play plenty of gacha games. I'm saying the rewards to waveplates cost is not worth it and getting closer to endgame it seems even worse. I never said it needs to be easy and I even said I don't mind the grind. I have close to 100 Jue echos in my bag so the grinding I don't think is the issue, the rewards are. The fact that useless 5* echos can't be fed into anything other than the data bank merge is kinda ridiculous. I also never said oh I'm quitting because it's garbage, no, I'm specifically pointing out my opinion that seems to be the same as many others and is unfortunate because the game itself is amazing.
It does feel like it over reacting, without spending money I got 4 5stars and two 5 star weapons from pulling plus the free weapon we get plus the free character. The only thing I had to worry about was resin which wasn’t an issue for me to lvl my characters with what they gave me , I think what u mean is “I can’t get perfect stats and farm all day so I don’t like it”
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Echo farming is currently the only content left to do once you complete everything else, and so to see so little tuners being rewarded in tacet fields is outrageous. As of right now, the only way of obtaining tuners in bulk is to wait for events every patch. They really need to fix it soon.
the rewards are bullshit but you also gotta think if you compare to genshin, WUWA isn't locked between spesific days of the week so you can get alot every day of the week still could give us a bit more on weekly bosses
ya but progression isnt as gated as in WW.
days dont matter you just plan your shit better. its easier to max artifacts than it is to max echos.
@@christophermauro-barias7451 never said it was good but you gotta look at both negative and positive yes artifacts are easier but say you roll a weapon for furina and you cant level it until friday because its locked cant plan for that so you gotta wait. Im not saying weekly bosses and echos are perfect but you always gotta look at both sides
@MrCocoNutter that's not even a negative becuase you have the elemental reaction to carry you you can just user another weapon til then ppl plus that's a bad comparison lots of ppl just go festering desire or a favonious weapon in the first place
lots of ww players say since beta the echo system is a night mare they haven't done shit to improve it since 1.1 they got time but it's awful.
ok thats fair and once again i might not have made it clear and thats my bad yes i agree that the game needs to be reworked echos are Just not where it could be right now but thats not what im defending im saying the rewards for charecters and weapon mats are open all week so it makes sense you get less from it still IMO should be more but I can see why they dont wanna Just hand you alot right away
Even at U50 the weekly drops are 3-4 from my experience. I didn't expect U60 to still be dropping only 3.
Though with that being said I want to be fair since Kuro buffed tacets for 1.1 patch. I want to give them the benefit of the doubt and say that the "late game" rewards will be subject to change later on when MOST of the player base actually reaches that level. Currently only people who spent currency on waveplates since release are 60 and above, which is not even that high of a percentage compared to the rest.
52 UL here, there are so many other ways to get echo xp! do your illusionary realm and buy out from the gacha shop. ive gotten 4 toons to max tallents (now i can only go up to level 8) and 2 others to about half way there. full level 25 echos on them and swap healer set and the buffer set with the other toons. Grind your ore and get your free materials from the different shops around the world. they reset every week. i only buy the $5 daily pass and have been doing so since the start of the game and never used my asterite to refresh. my only problem is shell creidits, this issue was more apparent for me at the start, now im all caught up. i don't need to level echoes on every toon. echoes and weapons can be swapped
What shops give free materials? I know the gift shop you can trade with for that item yo get from chests but theres only so many of those in the game?
WuWa...if you are reading this, AGAIN I say this....LISTEN TO GOOD FEEDBACKS ESPECIALLY FROM GOOD CONTENT CREATORS AND PLAYERS....if you want to sell upgrade boxes (that contains resonators and upgrades for skills/weapons/etc)....LEARN TO CALIBRATE THE SHOP AND STORE ACCORDING TO FEEDBACK.
Ive seen a lot of comparisons to genshins resin system, and while i think wuwa does alot of things id love to see genshin do, the resin system is not one of them, while it's true that the materials are not locked to specific days, since genshin only cost like 20 per run on most things, and you can buy a guaranteed extra 60 resin a week and set aside 5 condensed. You can get a lot of whatever you're aiming to grind on the given day.
And since artifacts aren't locked to specific days, you can also grind those out however much as you want/can everyday
One fragile resin equates to 3 artifact/ talent runs or 2 weekly bosses. As where in wuwa it would equate to one single run of a boss/weekly/or tacet field while giving pretty much the same value in drops as one run in genshin.
I really hope they address this issue in a future update. The cost of rewards is kind of abysmal.
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The issue isn’t the rewards themselves tbh, the earlier levels are generous relative to how much you need to build.
Getting a character to level 60 with decent skill levels isn’t too bad
It’s that the rewards don’t scale as much as they should once you reach higher UL and try to start building to 80
Resources become extremely thin at that point but rewards don’t scale up with the requirements
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Unlike genshin, domain in wuthering waves is locked to your world level/SOL phase (compared to locked to account level in genshin)
So if you just want to chill in the open world and fight less powerful monsters, you have to cope with domains providing less materials. The only domains that aren't affected by world level are the weekly bosses
World bosses and leyline equivalent in wuwa affected by world level? I can understand that because genshin does the same. But material domains max level being locked behind world level? That i can't tolerate
What they need to implement is the same energy storing system like in HSR, let us continue earning energy after reaching our energy cap and store it (this should be the norm for these big gacha games). Echo system and energy system needs to be looked at by Kuro 100% and ofc the rewards.
Compared to genshin 1.xx days this is much better...
There're actually many ways you can get echo xp if you know where to look (for example, you can craft echo xp now with mats from the new area). But I do agree that they need to buff TF reward to feel more rewarding. Making players able to try their luck with maxing out 1 echo every 1-2 day is healthy for the game, unlike GI where you have plenty of upgrading mats but the pieces worthy of leveling up are only dropped in like once per 3 months.
hey random question. So I’ve been farming echos. And for some reason I can see the gold echos in my inventory but when I go and change it in character under echos, it won’t be there. Any idea why?
Hello, I kinda just started and having a hard time levelling my echoes
Where can I craft echo exp on the new area?
sorry for bringing up genshin but bosses there are dropping mostly 2x at highest world difficulty, sometimes it drops 3 but rarely(like 1/3 chance or maybe lower). if wuwa at UL60 gives guaranteed 3x mats, i;ll take that as a win
1.1 added, Fluorite farming its 3 free purple tubes a week.. 250 gold tuners to build a new character is going to be the real limiter.
SOL3 is the shorthand for the planet Solaris 3. Phase level basically is the difficulty of the world.
Its not enough, by what standard?
Kuro cant allow player max their character in a day even tho they farmed maximum stage.
Tell me other gacha games that give you so much material in a day that let you upgrade character instantly to the max.
Im legit curious.
The way that people don't seem to get this is insane to me. People really think it's ok to "finish" a gacha game like this in a month, and that by reaching that goal they'd be showered with rewards and become the king of the world. It's like they don't realize that 90% of the other people playing the game actually have priorities and a life.
Was wondering as well. I have heard it takes forever to have solid stats in GI. In wuwa it's easy to farm for echoes with solid stats. I see people already having solid stats for multiple characters. Hmmm.
There has to be a grind and this is where they put the grind. Something that can constantly improve if you keep doing it over and over and over. If everyone could have perfect echoes in one month there's not really any reason to keep playing daily.
They could've just remove the echo rewards and change them into the upgrade mats, the echoes mostly have mismatched elemental stats anyway
I heard the grind is the same length as genshins, i do appreciate that i get more 4 star weapon drops tho
The drop has been bad from the beginning but lot of peoples are blinded by then limited time double drop event
You cant reach UL 60 without refreshing using astrite as of today. I do daily, used all the item to refresh waveplate, only 52. Abd i already maxed out every area
chill bro, even if they give you more. the player will not stop complaining. I'm at Level 60 too and I don't think that letting player progress faster is a good thing for the game.
😢 need improve because I'm gonna start farming echos for Shouanren soon
Also the new area* has echo exp as mining now soooo yeaaa its something we can do without the need of energy now
Hi, what does this mean? Sorry I just kinda just started playing. We can mine echo exp? If yes, where please I'm having a hard time levelling my echoes. 😭
@NOOBita_nga the new 1.1 update area where time is frozen has a new type of rock! take those to the crafter!
@@TheWipal OMG thank you.... 😍😍
SOL3 is the name of the planet. Solaris-3
they need to increase echo exp drop and remove all the echos that they give us cuz u can farm it in the world
even with the double drop event cant get me 1 nice +25 echo xD
and echo is litteraly the chara build
fair criticism.
When doing tacet fields or anything related to wave plates, the rewards are just so bad, their not like rewarding or exciting at all
im ul 52 and ive never gotten a gold domain drop .... its so bad i barley have 1 and almost 2 talents maxed on chars after a month of playing every day its wack when have a backlog of characters to buiild its a major problem
What the hell, there's so much ressources in this game what are you talking about
It's like nothing changes at all from lvl 80 runs to lvl 90 runs. That makes no sense at all.
Yeah the rewards are dog shit.. i really do hope they do something about it. Their big thing was that you could endlessly grind echos without using stamina but what good is it if i cant even tune them?! What good is farming 2k echos if i can't even roll them to build my characters.. i don't mind grinding either but not when im getting blocked in the end..
I think people have the wrong mindset with this, this is a gacha at the end of the day, you shouldn’t get progress super easily, don’t make this your main game or any gacha games for that matter and you’ll be fine.
@@Saberdud this isn't my main game and I play plenty of gacha games. I'm saying the rewards to waveplates cost is not worth it and getting closer to endgame it seems even worse. I never said it needs to be easy and I even said I don't mind the grind. I have close to 100 Jue echos in my bag so the grinding I don't think is the issue, the rewards are. The fact that useless 5* echos can't be fed into anything other than the data bank merge is kinda ridiculous. I also never said oh I'm quitting because it's garbage, no, I'm specifically pointing out my opinion that seems to be the same as many others and is unfortunate because the game itself is amazing.
Echo xp is available for purchase in the store, that's why we will never be able to fodder echoes
whale problems kekw
Man go make a video game. You want too much
It does feel like it over reacting, without spending money I got 4 5stars and two 5 star weapons from pulling plus the free weapon we get plus the free character. The only thing I had to worry about was resin which wasn’t an issue for me to lvl my characters with what they gave me , I think what u mean is “I can’t get perfect stats and farm all day so I don’t like it”