I had a 67 Dodge D200 that someone had dropped a 318 in along with a 3 speed stick in the floor, It was rusted thru in a couple of spots and the passenger floorboard was eaten out so I used JB Weld and sheetmeatal to repair. It ran good and had good power so I did a cheap paint job and drove it like it was. Fun truck
In '81 it most likely came out of a Fury. Those were most common chryslers at that time in use. Full size were still getting HP 360. Midsize (Dodge Diplomat & Plymouth Fury) got the 318 in several versions.
I got one of these it came in a 1972 coronet 4 door sedan that originally had the slant 6 but the engine blow a rod and took a large chunk out of the block!!! Very happy with this motor even being in such a heavy car!!! Still has performance ability and that deep-throated rumble people look for!!! I'm referbing the car now but may post a video or slide show when she's finished!!! Can't go wrong with this engine!!!
They all want to Run.. I really believe that.. I was almost given a 318/A904 after the impossible also happened.. my Slant6 gave up the Ghost.. 300 bucks for V8 and Trans from a fellow Dart owner.. non smog 318... Mopar also lied about HP until the had to put the dreaded smog holes and EGR.. 75 I believe.. Cheers from Southern California.. daily driver 68 Dart grandma special..
My 92 Dodge Dakota went to the scrap yard. It was literally falling apart from rust, but that 318 was still going strong. Always started without any problems, just changed the oil every 3K miles.
Dodge does a really good job, better than Ford i think. I have a 95 Dakota magnum 3.9 V6 and I love it plenty of low end torque. And yes, i never had a problem starting up, reliable as hell.
An HDC equals high duty cycle. They were all made or assembled in Canada. My parents had a travco motor home with a 360 hdc in it. It got 16 + mpg had plenty of power with 4.10 full floating rear axle a 727 torqueflight and weighed 4800 lbs curb weight. I wish I'd of kept it after they died and put that motor in a ramcharger. But like my mom always said IF FORESIGHT WAS AS GOOD AS HINDSIGHT WE'D HAVE IT MADE.
This vid was done on my birthday. that motor be beautiful in my 74 dart...... just paid a shop for a halfass 1500 dollar head gasket job. Removed and replaced things. Came back with no fuel filter and 5w 20 oil.
Hey thank you very much for this upload. I am just learning about these engines. I just got myself a 1979 Dodge B300 high top campervan with a 360 CI engine paired with an a-727 transmission. The smog stuff is sort of a pain. I accidentally caught my engine block on fire while cleaning it so I was forced to replace all the hoses that vaporized along with a bunch of wires from the harness. Got everything up and running it sounds good but what a mess.
I am not sure what this motor came out of. It was a motor and transmission still coupled together for sale on Craig's List. I was looking for a donor motor for parts only. When I saw the four barrel carb and intake I decided to buy it as it piqued my interest. I wasn't aware of factory four barrels on the 318 at the time. As we tore it down and researched the casting numbers, we realized that we didn't have an ordinary old 318. I didn't pull the cam and crank out as the cylinders were perfectly smooth and the pistons all looked great. The mains looked good so I just replaced the oil pump, timing chain, lifters, and had the heads milled and valves ground. I wish now I had gone ahead and torn it all the way down. I would love to know what cam shaft is installed. I might tear it down yet. If I get a good weekend to myself I might pull it off of the engine stand, tear it down and put new bearings and rings in it. Someone told me that these early engines had a problem with not seating the rings properly. Compression is 120 pounds on all cylinders. I think it should be stronger. The Thermoquad was rebuilt here locally by my machinist's father who has rebuilt more carbs than I have ever seen. He is a master at rebuilding and tuning them. I have yet to install it. This motor had a bunch of smog stuff on it and I took it all off. I am afraid that the Thermoquad will have ports and such that want those smog lines hooked up. I don't think I have the skill to make it run properly so I just stuck the Edelbrock on it. I am familiar with the 1406 and getting it jetted. I am close to having it running perfectly. It is very strong, but my interest is in getting my strong 360 finished so I can get it into my '71 Dart project. Thanks for the questions Mickey.
Ernie, I haven't really considered a price. The heads are pretty valuable. I almost couldn't pry them out of my machine shops hands when I had them done. I would probably let it go for a thousand, just to make space in my shop. It would fit in your Ram. It would be pretty straight forward as you wouldn't need a computer or anything. This is pretty old school. No smog stuff, no electronic idle air control, no oxygen sensors, etc. I don't know how economical it would be though. I doubt if you could get very good mileage.
I actually bought an 89 D250 that was gutted and the guy threw in a 318 with tranny to sweeten the deal. Got the same results of it being a mopar race performance engine like you said. Other than that it seems to be a mystery on the engine's history and origins. Spent a few hours trying to search it's block numbers and such and kept getting "Race Engine" from mopar and "Ordinary 318" from forums. Either way I too am taking all that smog nonsense off.
69 318 out of a cornet had 66000 miles on it the compression on it was good I stuck it in my Dodge pickup had the truck for 10 years wore out coming back from Show Low Arizona to Tucson I blew a head gasket but I tell you what I drove all the way home it's smoke like a freight train but I made it home I put about 300,000 miles on it when I tore it apart I took the block to machine shop I know your boy told me I was good for the boat anchor now end of story 318 with a good engine
It's all on your taste and the sound you want from the exhaust. flow master super 10's our pretty loud, the 40's and 44's are loud but not as much as the 10's. You should check them out on youtube to get you started.
What size belt you use for the power steering pump? Restoring a 72 Dodge B100 and didn't have one really appreciate the help if I can get the brand name and part number thanks!
I have the same motor but mine came out of a 1972 sportsman van with a 2 barrel the motor was painted blue but the numbers on the sid of the block were 4104230.318.11 comes back as a race motor so i rebuilt it put 360 heads on it 475 lift cam dur 298 and a eld 600 cfm carb it is now in my 72 roadrunner does any body have any info on these motors
Seems to be a generally good running engine with that being said for it to be a “race “ block with hipo 360 heads sounds either really weak or worn totally out
In 1981, there were 3 possibilities: R body St Regis, R body Fury, or M body Diplomat. This same engine was used through 1984, with a change of heads (to 587's) in '83. In '85, the intake changed, and in '86, the pistons changed. From '85 through '89, no other Chrysler product utilized this exact engine. It was police - only. It never did get the TBI that Chrysler had designed for it for the '86 cars. That system went into trucks in '88. Halfway through the 1989 model year, Chrysler ended production of the M body at Kenosha, WI. The ELE police 318 was then given a new tour of duty: Chrysler added TBI and hydraulic roller lifters, and shoehorned it into the new Shelby Dakota.
My 81 1/2 ton pickup had 318 360heads thremoquard 4carb carb in 1990 i rebuild motor carb would not work properly end up put 2 barrel bbd on went from 6mpgto 21mpg and727 trans truck got head on in 2005 had 440,000km best dam truck ever
@@pkranz937 good info, I worked on that conversion assembly line in 89' Shoehorned in the Dakota 1500 units. Later when Dodge resumed V8 Dakota's, they changed the front radiator clip to accommodate a conventional fan & shroud and used the original V6 motor mount as both blocks had similar side mount castings & front/ rear block trans & front accessories holes. And upgraded EFI.
I believe yours is a magnum. They’re good engines. There are differences between magnums and LAs(the one in the video) but both are pretty solid engines
I like the big block "B" motors. They are easier to get into cars because they are a lower deck height. I currently have a 400 in a '75 Power Wagon. If the motor hasn't previously been bored out, I think you can bore it and make a really strong "stroker" engine out of it. Then find a non assuming car and drop it in for a great sleeper hot rod.
I don't really know at this point. I timed it with a vacuum gauge. I set it initially when I put it together at TDC. Then adjusted it with the vacuum gauge to 17 pounds. That was the most I could get. It is a little advanced, probably 8 or 10 degrees, but I am not sure exactly. I am just running it on the test stand for now.
I know it's a million yrs later, but a stock smog era h/p sb Chrysler with the stock cam ( about .410 lift) and TQ generally likes 16* btdc for ignition timing. FYI You should pull nearly 20 inches of vacuum at 750 rpm with that. Compression will be 120-140psi warm engine with all plugs removed and WOT or carb removed. Oil pressure looked good. 30-45lbs at hot idle is excellent, as the h/p engines had higher pressure pumps in them from the factory. Careful carb jetting and matched metering rods are the key. Run an orange box MP electronic ignition system with matching distributor and you've suddenly woken up a rather bland 318. 1 thought though... ditch the stock iron intake with the floor jet EGR. It's garbage, and it weighs a ton, not to mention it runs too lean at idle.
So what? He said he didn't have a sensor that would fit not that he just didn't feel like it. So what about the vacuum?? Who cares about your feeling of credibility?....wow. It's his engine and he can do what he wants with it.
I had a 67 Dodge D200 that someone had dropped a 318 in along with a 3 speed stick in the floor, It was rusted thru in a couple of spots and the passenger floorboard was eaten out so I used JB Weld and sheetmeatal to repair. It ran good and had good power so I did a cheap paint job and drove it like it was. Fun truck
who cares
Had a 69 sport satellite with 318 and that was a quick engine. never an issue
In '81 it most likely came out of a Fury. Those were most common chryslers at that time in use. Full size were still getting HP 360. Midsize (Dodge Diplomat & Plymouth Fury) got the 318 in several versions.
I got one of these it came in a 1972 coronet 4 door sedan that originally had the slant 6 but the engine blow a rod and took a large chunk out of the block!!!
Very happy with this motor even being in such a heavy car!!! Still has performance ability and that deep-throated rumble people look for!!!
I'm referbing the car now but may post a video or slide show when she's finished!!!
Can't go wrong with this engine!!!
They all want to Run.. I really believe that.. I was almost given a 318/A904 after the impossible also happened.. my Slant6 gave up the Ghost.. 300 bucks for V8 and Trans from a fellow Dart owner.. non smog 318... Mopar also lied about HP until the had to put the dreaded smog holes and EGR.. 75 I believe..
Cheers from Southern California.. daily driver 68 Dart grandma special..
My 92 Dodge Dakota went to the scrap yard. It was literally falling apart from rust, but that 318 was still going strong. Always started without any problems, just changed the oil every 3K miles.
Dodge does a really good job, better than Ford i think. I have a 95 Dakota magnum 3.9 V6 and I love it plenty of low end torque. And yes, i never had a problem starting up, reliable as hell.
An HDC equals high duty cycle. They were all made or assembled in Canada. My parents had a travco motor home with a 360 hdc in it. It got 16 + mpg had plenty of power with 4.10 full floating rear axle a 727 torqueflight and weighed 4800 lbs curb weight. I wish I'd of kept it after they died and put that motor in a ramcharger.
But like my mom always said
IF FORESIGHT WAS AS GOOD AS HINDSIGHT WE'D HAVE IT MADE.
There’s plenty of those 318 LA or Magnum engines available with some performance improvements to make it go faster than stock
This vid was done on my birthday. that motor be beautiful in my 74 dart...... just paid a shop for a halfass 1500 dollar head gasket job. Removed and replaced things. Came back with no fuel filter and 5w 20 oil.
I took a break for awhile. Life gets in the way sometimes. Going to get back at it this summer.
How much is it
Hey thank you very much for this upload. I am just learning about these engines. I just got myself a 1979 Dodge B300 high top campervan with a 360 CI engine paired with an a-727 transmission. The smog stuff is sort of a pain. I accidentally caught my engine block on fire while cleaning it so I was forced to replace all the hoses that vaporized along with a bunch of wires from the harness. Got everything up and running it sounds good but what a mess.
Btw the only info I have on smog is there are holes around exhaust ports
What did this 318 come out of? Where did you get the Thermoquad rebuilt?
Just out of curiosity. How much ( including shipping) would this cost?
I am not sure what this motor came out of. It was a motor and transmission still coupled together for sale on Craig's List. I was looking for a donor motor for parts only. When I saw the four barrel carb and intake I decided to buy it as it piqued my interest. I wasn't aware of factory four barrels on the 318 at the time. As we tore it down and researched the casting numbers, we realized that we didn't have an ordinary old 318. I didn't pull the cam and crank out as the cylinders were perfectly smooth and the pistons all looked great. The mains looked good so I just replaced the oil pump, timing chain, lifters, and had the heads milled and valves ground. I wish now I had gone ahead and torn it all the way down. I would love to know what cam shaft is installed. I might tear it down yet. If I get a good weekend to myself I might pull it off of the engine stand, tear it down and put new bearings and rings in it. Someone told me that these early engines had a problem with not seating the rings properly. Compression is 120 pounds on all cylinders. I think it should be stronger.
The Thermoquad was rebuilt here locally by my machinist's father who has rebuilt more carbs than I have ever seen. He is a master at rebuilding and tuning them.
I have yet to install it. This motor had a bunch of smog stuff on it and I took it all off. I am afraid that the Thermoquad will have ports and such that want those smog lines hooked up. I don't think I have the skill to make it run properly so I just stuck the Edelbrock on it. I am familiar with the 1406 and getting it jetted. I am close to having it running perfectly. It is very strong, but my interest is in getting my strong 360 finished so I can get it into my '71 Dart project. Thanks for the questions Mickey.
have u sold it
I still have it. It is still on the engine stand. Starts right up. I just haven't gotten around to finding a decent car to put it in.
+Nate Bridges would it fit in a 86 d150 1/2ton 2wd
Nate Bridges how much are you askinv for it this would go good in my 97 dodge ram. I cant wait to geg ig going
Ernie, I haven't really considered a price. The heads are pretty valuable. I almost couldn't pry them out of my machine shops hands when I had them done. I would probably let it go for a thousand, just to make space in my shop. It would fit in your Ram. It would be pretty straight forward as you wouldn't need a computer or anything. This is pretty old school. No smog stuff, no electronic idle air control, no oxygen sensors, etc. I don't know how economical it would be though. I doubt if you could get very good mileage.
I actually bought an 89 D250 that was gutted and the guy threw in a 318 with tranny to sweeten the deal. Got the same results of it being a mopar race performance engine like you said. Other than that it seems to be a mystery on the engine's history and origins. Spent a few hours trying to search it's block numbers and such and kept getting "Race Engine" from mopar and "Ordinary 318" from forums. Either way I too am taking all that smog nonsense off.
does carboraitor give you more power than fule injection
Does it have a windage tray in the oil pan
Is this still available I have a 1988 dodge that has a running 318 but it still has the smog pump on it
you have any big block mopars for sale? preferably a 440 or 383
69 318 out of a cornet had 66000 miles on it the compression on it was good I stuck it in my Dodge pickup had the truck for 10 years wore out coming back from Show Low Arizona to Tucson I blew a head gasket but I tell you what I drove all the way home it's smoke like a freight train but I made it home I put about 300,000 miles on it when I tore it apart I took the block to machine shop I know your boy told me I was good for the boat anchor now end of story 318 with a good engine
Would you tell me what kind or size muffler you used for the test? I have the same engine and i have not idea what to use. Thanks in advance
It's all on your taste and the sound you want from the exhaust. flow master super 10's our pretty loud, the 40's and 44's are loud but not as much as the 10's. You should check them out on youtube to get you started.
What size belt you use for the power steering pump? Restoring a 72 Dodge B100 and didn't have one really appreciate the help if I can get the brand name and part number thanks!
Nice video. I love these 318s. What is the block casting number?
Why does that matter? It's an iron production
block
If you're running hydraulic flat tappets, the lifters and cam need to be replaced and broken in together. Not new lifters on a used cam.
I have the same motor but mine came out of a 1972 sportsman van with a 2 barrel the motor was painted blue but the numbers on the sid of the block were 4104230.318.11 comes back as a race motor so i rebuilt it put 360 heads on it 475 lift cam dur 298 and a eld 600 cfm carb it is now in my 72 roadrunner does any body have any info on these motors
A lot of lifter clatter?
how much?
I have a 91 D150 that has a good engine in it but it's not running right
Los extraño la mayoría de los buses de mi ciudad los tenian como principal motor.
What is this motor still for sale
Where did u get the pieces?
Its awsome, wanna do on my truck 1985 with 318
can you do a video on how you set your test stand up?
Nice motor.
Have you sold thos motor yet?
Will this fit in my Subaru Impreza??
318 ci are among best design ever!!!!!!!
Seems to be a generally good running engine with that being said for it to be a “race “ block with hipo 360 heads sounds either really weak or worn totally out
Yea, with out decking the block or installing taller pistons, or a bigger cam, those heads would be killing the already low compression.
I am in Sunnyside, Washington
dam im watching this video six yrs to late. i would buy this motor in a hart beat.
Heart beat.
Definitely a gran fury being it was a police interceptor motor. Just my thought tho
not necessarily - some Diplomats were also built for Sheriffs Dept, etc.
In 1981, there were 3 possibilities: R body St Regis, R body Fury, or M body Diplomat. This same engine was used through 1984, with a change of heads (to 587's) in '83. In '85, the intake changed, and in '86, the pistons changed. From '85 through '89, no other Chrysler product utilized this exact engine. It was police - only. It never did get the TBI that Chrysler had designed for it for the '86 cars. That system went into trucks in '88.
Halfway through the 1989 model year, Chrysler ended production of the M body at Kenosha, WI. The ELE police 318 was then given a new tour of duty: Chrysler added TBI and hydraulic roller lifters, and shoehorned it into the new Shelby Dakota.
My 81 1/2 ton pickup had 318 360heads thremoquard 4carb carb in 1990 i rebuild motor carb would not work properly end up put 2 barrel bbd on went from 6mpgto 21mpg and727 trans truck got head on in 2005 had 440,000km best dam truck ever
@@pkranz937 good info, I worked on that conversion assembly line in 89'
Shoehorned in the Dakota 1500 units. Later when Dodge resumed V8 Dakota's, they changed the front radiator clip to accommodate a conventional fan & shroud and used the original V6 motor mount as both blocks had similar side mount castings & front/ rear block trans & front accessories holes. And upgraded EFI.
how much
are 318 tuff motors mine is a 93
I believe yours is a magnum. They’re good engines. There are differences between magnums and LAs(the one in the video) but both are pretty solid engines
what kinda color it that?
Just normal Plymouth/Dodge Mopar engine blue. Spray can high temperature paint from O'Reilys
what kind of color you like the most claissa
Chrysler Light Blue
Also called smog blue.
I have a big block 361 any suggestions.
I like the big block "B" motors. They are easier to get into cars because they are a lower deck height. I currently have a 400 in a '75 Power Wagon.
If the motor hasn't previously been bored out, I think you can bore it and make a really strong "stroker" engine out of it. Then find a non assuming car and drop it in for a great sleeper hot rod.
is the 318 a tuff motor mine is a 93
Yes very tough. Might look at the plentum gaskets
Still have it
What does the number after 318 mean
318 cubic inches or 5.2 liters
What did you time your 318 4bbl to? 8, 10, 16, degrees. BTDC?
I don't really know at this point. I timed it with a vacuum gauge. I set it initially when I put it together at TDC. Then adjusted it with the vacuum gauge to 17 pounds. That was the most I could get. It is a little advanced, probably 8 or 10 degrees, but I am not sure exactly. I am just running it on the test stand for now.
I know it's a million yrs later, but a stock smog era h/p sb Chrysler with the stock cam ( about .410 lift) and TQ generally likes 16* btdc for ignition timing. FYI You should pull nearly 20 inches of vacuum at 750 rpm with that. Compression will be 120-140psi warm engine with all plugs removed and WOT or carb removed. Oil pressure looked good. 30-45lbs at hot idle is excellent, as the h/p engines had higher pressure pumps in them from the factory. Careful carb jetting and matched metering rods are the key. Run an orange box MP electronic ignition system with matching distributor and you've suddenly woken up a rather bland 318. 1 thought though... ditch the stock iron intake with the floor jet EGR. It's garbage, and it weighs a ton, not to mention it runs too lean at idle.
muy intrtesante
Where or who told you that you have a 318 "race" block?
Ain't no such animal
@The94GTC show me a mopar part number for a LA318 race block/motor.
can i get your number i want to ask you about wiring up to start that motor?
few gallons of used oil that engine?
Doesn't smoke. Doesn't burn oil that I have noticed. Strong little engine. I am going to have to put it into something so I can free up my test stand.
Fast enough to catch you, but you can't outrun their Motorola's📡
location?
Mopar nut. haha thats nice. Mopar or no car. and also delievering mopain.
I'm interested
all credibility lost when he said"pounds of vacuum" and did'nt bother to hook up temp gauge....wow
So what? He said he didn't have a sensor that would fit not that he just didn't feel like it. So what about the vacuum?? Who cares about your feeling of credibility?....wow. It's his engine and he can do what he wants with it.
relax dude,relax@@SCfanIam100
I want the motor but I'd guess I'm late?
Me gusta mucho
Yo tambien, tengo uno en en mi camión, muy bien motor
That Edelbrock is a copy of a Carter BTF.
dodge diplomat maybe it came in?
Uriel, you might be correct. I have no way of knowing. It is a very strong engine and was fun to try to figure out what was wrong with it.
We had a same engine in a 1982 dodge diplomat that was a police car here in northern California.
Casting number is 4104230.318.13
Sumbitch is tapping like a sumbitch
I found a spare engine for my truck ,number is 4104230-318-4,Vancouver island,nice video.thanks.
that engine sounds GOOFY like POPO CACA dodo
Some idiots have a higher IQ number than the horsepower numbers this motor made haha