Because owners nowadays don't want to be disrespected by extension. Meanwhile, Vince embraced the changes and even made it into Tshirts: "WWE....Get the F out!"
It's TNA decades later still TNA, its tit's an ass. All elite? who are they? the all elite the best of the best, i guess there pros, look X is on the bill .
@@davidburke7777Literally all territories were dying during the WWF’s expansion, Jim saw the writing on the wall and sold the company to Vince before it was too late, thus making him rich 😂 I wouldn’t call that a failure
@@Rowri88 Yeah setting up a business and having to sell it to a place you hate is really successful. Jim is one of the best mangers of all time, underrated commentator too but terrible at booking and running a company.
TNA circa 2005-2009 was peak performance. Possibly the closest we’ll ever get to a legit wrestling product opposite of WWE. Hopefully they can get close to that or possibly even better
@@MisterE1976the main event mafia directing the January 29th 2009 episode of TNA impact was absolutely hilarious black snow was a gem on Commentary lol.
Harsh. TNA wasn't always garbage. When it was an hour long "adrenaline rush" with Samoa Joe, Styles, Daniels with Don West shilling his heart out it was a great alternative. That TNA was genuinely great.
@@impulse_xs this isn't about AEW at all. Even if someone doesn't like them or WWE or Impact or whoever, it's better they're all strong than not. Past time more fans grew up.
@@davidiihouston6883 You: “This isn’t about AEW” Also you: “It wasn’t. Like AEW now, it would be very uneven. Great quality action but bizarre booking” You literally compared the two lol
@@impulse_xs I referenced them because of the similarity. You decided that was an opening for an irrelevant attack instead of just talking about TNA. Not the same thing.
Honestly, I don’t blame them for going back to TNA, 90% of the time I see someone online talk about the promotion, it’s usually referred to as TNA and not Impact. I don’t think the rebranding to Impact ever really worked, because everyone still thought of them as TNA
Most of the TNA and boomer fans still say, "TNA" over Impact Wrestling. They could call still use Impact Zone or Impact World Title, but use old TNA title.
Good thing Impact isn't AEW. There was a reason WWF never paid attention to WCW until they started playing with WWF by shitting on their shows. Impact needs to pay attention to their product, AEW needs to pay attention to their product. This is why WWE is the biggest. They do their own thing and don't pay attention to try to copy someone else. Unless, of course, you want every wrestling promotion to copy each other,. All-Elite Tits and Ass Wrestling. Only the best naked oil wrestlers.
Yeah, when people think of TNA, they're looking back on the 2004-2009 years (though I remember 2002-2003 having a lot of good in it too). I can't blame them for wanting to pretend the Hogan years never happened.
True, I loved TNA. They were my gateway to weekly wrestling. I never had Sky Sports as a kid but I did have the wrestling channel on freeview sky, then Bravo.
As a person who grew up with the tna impact name. Especially the 3 years from 06-09 was fantastic. The name has some nostalgia to it for people in their mid to late 20s and early 30s. When wwe was making Shelton have a momma and other stuff tna gave us the X division. Kurt angle and joe etc
Kurt was World Heavyweight champion on SmackDown when Mama Benjamin was around. And don't act like TNA didn't do sillier stuff. They did a full episode story arc where Kurt was walking around in a speedo backstage with Borash, threatening and assaulting random people because someone stole his clothes while tanning. 😅
I understand Jim’s feelings on the “TNA” branding, but as a longtime fan I COMPLETELY welcome the change back to TNA. “Impact” is an unknown brand where’s “TNA” has some equity behind it
Its nothing other than a nostalgia hit for a small amount of people and nostalgia wears off very quickly. They should have wound the company up years and years ago.
@TotalCruiserBabe Define value. Listen say whatever you want about AEW, but they're closer to legitimate competition to WWE then TNA ever was lol. They're closest since WCW by every conceivable relevant metric.
2004 to 2009 TNA was fantastic to the point that I got a bunch of childhood memories watching it and never stopped calling it that so I see this as a win
I remember that the TNA wrestling was returning to the original name. The Women's Division was the best women's division in professional wrestling before NXT women's division that's took over.
I'm truly curious who in Impact/TNA mgmt peed in Brian's cheerios many years ago? His vendetta against the company is unyielding despite him clearly not watching the product in many years...
My guess is that he really is a fan of old school wrestling. Not really what TNA got themselves over for, especially in their glory years, 2005-2009. Perhaps he just remember it for the intensely russo-esque presentation and storylines and really dislike it for that matter.
Jeff Jarrett said that nobody outside of the US even calls them Impact Wrestling, even business related people would still refer to them as TNA, so maybe they're just tired of pretending they aren't and getting backlash for it.
I’ve watched the acclaimed Daniels-Joe-AJ match since the name change announcement. Good shit, pal! They had a great roster in the 2000s. I’m glad a few of their homegrown talents were able to make careers in WWE and Japan
1, that is the most Shitstain pose ever 2, I love how it's gone full circle, for years everyone said TNA would be dead, and not only is it not dead, it's literally being re-birthed lol
i was gonna say i want to see the AEW faithful VS the TNA faithful this is the blood bath i want to see i hope tna can compete with AEW atleast it would make for a better product for overall
Never really followed it but TNA has a soft spot for me. I was at the very first show in Huntsville, AL in 2002. A week or so prior I got to meet Jeff Jarrett who was near my house promoting the event and got a picture with him. Nice guy.
Jeff is pretty cool. I kinda got to know him a little bit when he was wrestling in Memphis in the early 90s. Jeff, his tag partner Robert Fuller (Col.Rob Parker/Tennessee Lee), the Moondogs, and even Giant Gonzales would hang out after the matches and talk to fans for a while. I went as often as possible, and would talk to Jeff whenever I went. I got to know him well enough that he would recognize me and come say hi. He was a nice guy.
For some reason I skipped TNA during the Kross/Blanchard era, and barely paid attention during the EC3/Galloway/Drake era, but they have been so solid since 2020. What's amazing about their entire history is that there was never a point when their roster was thin or uninteresting. Also, TNA has definitely come into its own recently with them no longer needing to be flanked by ex-WWE guys anymore.
@notgonnalieitsprettyfunny7884 😂😂😂😂😂 the embarrassment is those 3 shows that air on Warner bros discovery 😂😂😂😂that barely can draw 3000 and constantly get destroyed in viewership Numbers everyweek
TNA is more well known than Impact as a brand. That's what it boils down to. I don't think it changes anything in the grand schemes of things, but this is a way for them to get more attention, good and bad.
I liked TNA as a kid. It had a grit that WWE didn’t have at the time. It was a nice alternative. It had great tag teams like the Motor City Machine Guns, LAX, Dudley Bros, and Beer Money Inc in a time where WWE had hardly any legit tag teams. It’s women’s division shit all over WWE’s at the time. It had what is is still my favorite Kurt Angle run. AJ Styles was this new, amazing talent to behold. Scott Steiner and Booker T were funny as shit. I think it’s biggest downfall is that it couldn’t do long-term booking for shit. The roster was insanely stacked in that 2005-2009 era. It still feels like a much more legitimate alternative than AEW ever had been and with a fraction of the budget.
can definitely speak on this. i remember saying i was a TNA fan as a kid to adults, family, teachers, friends, friends parents, and getting weird looks. never mind even explaining to my mother i wanted to watch TNA on spike, can i please stay up late lmfao
I liked the old TNA for the reason it was a alternative from wwe. Back in the day it was what AEW was promised to be. I think they are better than AEW is today. Controversial yes, but they have been better lately. I also like that they seem to willing to try different things, they don't always work. But it isn't bad for new things to happen if they stick.
Ya early to mid 2000s TNA was unique and original! New wrestlers, new fresh gimmicks, different ring, unique divisions. Everything about it was different than WWE and it was really exciting
@jpmiller7922 Sabin was epic. And kinda still is, those younger days of his was the best just cause of nostalgia alone. And Monty Brown should have taken that strap! That would have been a damn rocket on his back. JJ doing the job on his own show to a young, talented up and Comer.
Maybe it was because I was quite young(12 ish) when I started watching TNA, I loved it. 2006-2012 Kurt Angle was absolutely insane, and they had some real talents(styles, Kaz, Daniels, Skipper, Ron Killings, etc) and I was probably too young to care if it was "bad for business"
Unless you pick up the progressing Illustrated top 500 and you see Josh Alexander and deonna purrazzo and Masha slamovich who are all in the top 25 I find Jim cornette very funny and very engaging and I love it podcast but he is wrong on this
Jeff Jarrett left the company because he stole the wife of their biggest star the first time and got drunk in Mexico the second time. I agree a lot with Jim, but he denying JJ’s responsibility in the fall of TNA is very cringe.
@@victor.elkins I'm well aware Dixie and Russo were the biggest reason for TNA's decline during the early 2010's. But Jeff Jarrett was just as much of a problem long before Hogan came into the picture. Not as big of a problem as Hogan was, but had just as much of an ego.
Every single person I know has always called it TNA, even after they changed the name. I'm sure most people have, so they must have finally accepted their fate.
As a fan I love the six-sided ring, but all of the wrestlers HATE working in it. It’s stiffer because of the larger number of support beams needed, the weird angles throw off your timing, and the ropes have a weird amount of tension. If the wrestlers hate it, then it’s probably best to not use it
maybe introduce the six-sided ring for special events, maybe the X-division or Battle Royals. Makes it more of a rare thing to look forward to and lessens the strain on talent.
I know the original meaning behind the name is dumb, but “T&A” isn’t really a thing people say anymore. I like most people who grew up on TNA never associated it with that.
When TNA began, they were affiliated with NWA and had their belts. The powers that be at TNA should call up Billy Corgan and get back together. At least with NWA, you have the oldest name brand in pro wrestling.
Except that it's nowhere near that level.... Vince retiring WWE being sold Bray Wyatt dying Gunther's IC Title reign Roman's world title reigns Cody leaving AEW for WWE CM Punk's return CM Punk's scrum scandal CM Punk's fight with Jack Perry Debut of Collision Plane ride from Hell scandal Supposed Wembley attendance record Edge to AEW Steph leaves WWE Etc Etc Etc Etc Etc
As someone who likes lots of Jim's opinions I completely disagree cause I'm also someone who's watched impact and can tell this entire segment is from the perspective of someone who doesn't watch the product. Wrestling problem number 1
It's so obvious neither he nor Last watch but still spent 20 min rehashing old stuff. Why waste their own time or that of their listeners? "A girl won". That woman holds several powerlifting records so she's stronger than many of the men Jimmy managed over the years. Of the great matches on that event, the takeaway was "a girl" won a gauntlet battle royal in an underneath match?
Honestly they are going back to TNA because of the long time fans. For me I still think of it as TNA. However if Jeff would have given it a better name than Russos idea. This all could have been avoided.
Can take a vote !!!! I for one would love for Jim to watch anything impact or tna going forward I would love for him to do a review of bound for glory, ABC versus the rascals, Mike Bailey versus Will osprey, Alex Shelly and Josh Alexander there are good matches to be seen if you take time away from dumping on the company!!!
Let me give you a preview of Cornette’s review: “And then… Brian… HAWWWW… we had Will Ostrich versus a shoeless gymnastic guy who goes by the name “Speedball.” Isn’t a speedball a form of drugs, Brian? So we got an Ostrich vs a barefoot drug addict. And they did all the loop-de-loops and have-a-Coronas that all these neckbeard fans love. And it went 10,000 miles per hour, never slowed down, and got all the “This Is Awesome” chants from the fat virgins that love this crap…. HAAAWWWW!”
I’m actually looking forward to this. I still refer to impact as TNA. There’s no Dixie Carter, there’s no Shitstain Russo… the logo/moments before the rebrand/Russo/Hogan still resonate with me. A lot of great talent got showcased back in TNA glory years.
@@josereyes1148 No, some years earlier. But in my country we only got mid 90's WWF broadcast and just some months of WCW. On 00's I got access to NOAH and NJPW as well, and WWE was broadcasted again along with TNA.
Jeff Jarrett spoke on his podcast a few days back about how Anthem's change of the name in the first place was against his advice. He also mentioned that the change was only for North America and how most countries never experienced the change and it's always been TNA Wrestling and still are. They've been bringing back all the former talent over the last year or two; The Motor City Machineguns, Bully Ray (and in the case of recent appearances D-von as well), America's Most Wanted, Frankie Kazarian (and his wife Traci Brooks), Christopher Daniels, Eric Young (alongside Scott D'Amore and A-1 of Team Canada), Little Guido, Nick Aldis (immediately prior to his WWE debut) and a bunch of others. Ace Steel id now working in the back and Punk (was most likely visiting Ace Steele, Mickey James and others) has been visiting there lately but no one knows what his situation is at the moment.
@@a_ya5555legit question when's the last time you watched if you watch lately and you still say it's boring then you must be a garbage match bullshit wrestling fan because that's not what they're doing now
Hopefully this version of TNA gets a proper shot at the big time, because more promotions thriving makes for a better experience for fans, makes for a better landscape for wrestlers. If I were running it, I'd be monitoring the contractual statuses of all the originals and influential names that contributed to the growth and success of TNA. TNA needs a solid mix of young indie talent, a good handful of veterans, and some recognizable, “mainstream” talent that can garner viewership and ticket sales.
They seem to have that now: Alexander, Bey, Trey Miguel, Ace Austin on young talent, Eric Young and MCMG on vets, Bully Ray, Tommy Dreamer, Trinity, Mickie James on recognizable talent. I hope they don't try to do too much too quickly, because they're at a good point now of packing small venues, and traveling around.
"T&A" isn't really a well known slang phrase outside of America, so globally the name TNA wasn't considered that bad or a joke, maybe why it worked better on a global scale.
If they could get back to the roots of what TNA was supposed to be and was from 02-09, they could truly be a breath of fresh air in modern wrestling. I watch classic wrestling 95% of the time because the business has become a shell of its former self.
Nostalgia can be a powerful drug. I've heard for years that TNA consistently delivers a great show, but I haven't been motivated enough to check it out. Nevertheless, they'll need more than just some buzz to make a significant impact (no pun intended.) I hope TNA can establish key differentiators or competitive advantages compared to the fed or dub to engage viewers and fill in gaps that the big two may not be addressing.
@TheFailedmessiah 05-09 pre 05 was definitely facing growing pains and despite cornette's feeling for the guy, nobody liked Jeff Jarrett's shoe horning his midcarder ass in the mainevent.
They've already done all of that, which is why they've been trending up the last few years. They're doing their part now fans can decide if they want to watch or not. Funny how people will complain about WWE or AEW but keep watching but wont even try with Impact. Their loss.
One of the main reasons why they switched back has to do with their international audience and tv companies. Now as for the product as a whole, their shows have been good lately except that battle royal but the matches and talent has been improved but they still need a better tv deal
Impact and especially Scott D'amore have been doing extremely well the past two years. They have the best women's Division in north America. A super fun Tag and X-divsion, And a maint event scene thats constantly has something fun going on. It's a shame some people still have "opinions" on something they saw 5-6 years ago and project that on the current product instead of doing some research.
We are in the era of nostalgia, so makes sense why they would go back to TNA. People are looking backwards to things they found enjoyable, endearing or comforting due to how bad everything modern is becoming. Wrestling is a microcosm of that, that so many fans are burnt by today’s product they yearn for yesteryear
For the first time I don’t agree with this podcast, what TNA did 20 years ago is what Wwe and AEW is doing today, x division style wrestling, AEW old stage with tunnels, aj styles, Samoa Joe and other things. For the first time TNA has a real chance to become an alternative, what AEW was supposed to do but yet fails miserably
TNA grabbed me with those knockouts👀 back in the day when i was flipping through channels when wwe aired them Main Event shows also saw kurt & booker t and was like what the!. To be honest i started back watching again shortly before Trinity signed with them its a few people there i like but anyways glad its back to TNA
I disagree with Brian about TNA never being the innovator. Both the X Division and The Knockouts division preceded anything that the WWE tried to do that was similar by a decade(NXT and making women's wrestling the focus for a good portion of the show)
One of the few occasions I completely disagree with Jim and Brian. And it's so good to see the people in the comment section doing the same, almost unanimously. For me it was Total Nonstop Action since 2006 when I first saw it. This year was the first time when I heard the "tits n ass" mockery, in one of russo's promos from the early days of the company. It was replayed on a youtube show that does reviews of old NWA-TNA episodes, but besides that, I never knew it was a thing and never before saw a comment or a clip talking about it. And I watch a lot of stuff related to old TNA...
TNA from 06-09 is some of my favorite times in wrestling, especially when WWE was having their worst year in 09. Jim can miss me with his hatred of TNA.
This is one segment where Jim and Brian are in the wrong. They truly haven't understood the level of shitless nostalgia we have for the tna that have us Aj Joe, angle, christian, the x division, a roster which was undoubtedly the greatest roster of men and women a company had up to that time. Scott dmore had a great line "we have apologized for the part for too long"
The awkward moment when TNA/Impact (which is supposedly about to die at any moment) has been in business almost twice as long as WCW and over 2 times as long as ECW.
Impact was always TNA for me, however, the name TNA does have negative connotations to those who don’t know what it is or ever watched it. I am hoping that they will succeed with this hurdle. That being said, this would be a great opportunity for them to compete with AEW as the second U.S. based wrestling organization. Let’s see what happens.
Agreed. Chances are nothing is going to change but combine this with Corgan’s plans for NWA and suddenly indie wrestling is looking exciting for a hot minute.
Not in North America it doesn't which is why one of the reasons they're going back to the name because they do a lot of business in England add places like that and they never considered DNA to be anything other than Total Nonstop Action
Anyone hating on impact or tna is just a negative loser. I been watching impact on and off for 20 years. But very religiously since 2019. Between that and nwa, and uwn, i have had all thr pro wrestling fix, without any nonsense wwe or aew. Believe me, im not missing anything. I just got home from nwa samhain and it was one of the loudest, funnest even ive had in yrs and yrs.
Why is it that Jim cannot seem to keep his mouth shut when it comes to Vince Russo?! He must like getting sued I guess. 😀 Then again, hurling insults and veiled threats against Russo is likely the only way the old man feels like a bad ass! I often wonder what would have happened if Jim had ever followed through on any of those threats against Vince Russo? Oh I know, he would be in jail or got beaten up or killed by a much younger man in self defense! 😂
It won't bring in a 2nd golden era for the brand as some people from the company have suggested, but it's the most logical move this company has made in 6 years. I never got why they changed it to begin with. Who cares what "TNA" alludes to, who came up with it or what their motives were. It's what this company was known as and the name with which it reached the heights it did in 2008-2011. Rebranding it as "Impact Wrestling" hardly won them over any new fans.
Got to love it when Cornette complains about what TNA/Impact has done... when all one has to do is go look and look at every place he's ever worked and find stuff even more outlandish.
I can see why they're doing this. People still call it TNA, despite all the rebranding. They could never get away from TNA, so why not embrace it?
A bit like how everyone is still calling X Twitter.
@@GodlessScummer Just about.
Because owners nowadays don't want to be disrespected by extension. Meanwhile, Vince embraced the changes and even made it into Tshirts: "WWE....Get the F out!"
Because Russo named it so Jim can’t get out of his feelings
Like people still call WWE the WWF
To be fair, no matter what they have called it over the years, I have still been calling it TNA
That's part of why they are changing it back
Me too
Same
It's TNA decades later still TNA, its tit's an ass.
All elite? who are they? the all elite the best of the best, i guess there pros, look X is on the bill .
Honestly, I think we all have. I have, and every wrestling fan I know does. It's like the name change wasn't honored by any TNA fan ever.
In the 2022 royal rumble when AJ styles was in the ring and Robert Roode came up, the crowd shouted TNA TNA TNA. The wrestling world misses TNA.
And that’s why Smokey Mountain Wrestling was a complete failure. Jim doesn’t have a clue how to run a wrestling company
@@davidburke7777Literally all territories were dying during the WWF’s expansion, Jim saw the writing on the wall and sold the company to Vince before it was too late, thus making him rich 😂 I wouldn’t call that a failure
@@Rowri88 Yeah setting up a business and having to sell it to a place you hate is really successful. Jim is one of the best mangers of all time, underrated commentator too but terrible at booking and running a company.
sure litte man@@davidburke7777
The only people that watch wrestling in 2023 is the small group that watched TNA
TNA circa 2005-2009 was peak performance. Possibly the closest we’ll ever get to a legit wrestling product opposite of WWE. Hopefully they can get close to that or possibly even better
*Angry AEW fan noises*
I agree wholeheartedly!
I Absolutely Agree
@@MisterE1976the main event mafia directing the January 29th 2009 episode of TNA impact was absolutely hilarious black snow was a gem on Commentary lol.
no that's when it started to suck, they brought in a bunch of lazy old guys and made the x division into a joke. knockouts division was good though.
Harsh. TNA wasn't always garbage. When it was an hour long "adrenaline rush" with Samoa Joe, Styles, Daniels with Don West shilling his heart out it was a great alternative. That TNA was genuinely great.
It wasn't. Like AEW now, it would be very uneven. Great quality action but bizarre booking.
@@davidiihouston6883 I’d take 2005/06 TNA over any moment of AEW ever lmao
@@impulse_xs this isn't about AEW at all. Even if someone doesn't like them or WWE or Impact or whoever, it's better they're all strong than not. Past time more fans grew up.
@@davidiihouston6883
You: “This isn’t about AEW”
Also you: “It wasn’t. Like AEW now, it would be very uneven. Great quality action but bizarre booking”
You literally compared the two lol
@@impulse_xs I referenced them because of the similarity. You decided that was an opening for an irrelevant attack instead of just talking about TNA.
Not the same thing.
Honestly, I don’t blame them for going back to TNA, 90% of the time I see someone online talk about the promotion, it’s usually referred to as TNA and not Impact.
I don’t think the rebranding to Impact ever really worked, because everyone still thought of them as TNA
I’m guilty of that too.
Even Kurt Angle when he told Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn that TNA is hiring or RAW :D
A lot of ppl think the promotion is dead since they lost the major tv deal (now theyre on axstv)
Most of the TNA and boomer fans still say, "TNA" over Impact Wrestling. They could call still use Impact Zone or Impact World Title, but use old TNA title.
@@baconoftheark Pink avatar. Check. Male name. Check. Opinion disregarded. Check.
I know Jim has negative memories about TNA but I would take ‘05-‘09 TNA wrestling over AEW’s entire existence.
2002-2007
So…..1 pile of shit over 2 piles of shit. The common denominator is…..shit.
Robert roode as heavyweight champ was money. When he had a legit top guy push
I would take a Velvet Sky ring entrance over AEW's entire existence. 😂
Good thing Impact isn't AEW. There was a reason WWF never paid attention to WCW until they started playing with WWF by shitting on their shows. Impact needs to pay attention to their product, AEW needs to pay attention to their product. This is why WWE is the biggest. They do their own thing and don't pay attention to try to copy someone else. Unless, of course, you want every wrestling promotion to copy each other,. All-Elite Tits and Ass Wrestling. Only the best naked oil wrestlers.
Way more people know it as TNA. Makes perfect business sense.
Except it all got worse since then.
I don't think people are nostalgic for old crumpy I think we're nostalgic for like 2004-2007/2008 TNA. TNA fans are what ECW fans were in mid 2000's.
Yeah, when people think of TNA, they're looking back on the 2004-2009 years (though I remember 2002-2003 having a lot of good in it too). I can't blame them for wanting to pretend the Hogan years never happened.
True, I loved TNA. They were my gateway to weekly wrestling. I never had Sky Sports as a kid but I did have the wrestling channel on freeview sky, then Bravo.
That was also crummy
TNA was always outlaw bush league.@@SpanishFly120
Late 2005 to late 2006 TNA was excellent. It kind of fell off a cliff afterwards which is a shame because they got a more well rounded roster after.
The Woooooo off between Flair and Lethal will never be topped
Scott steiner promo???
Good choice, but the Scott Steiner Math promo will be the best moment for me
2005-09 and 2012-13 Was probably my favorite period of the company
I agree wholeheartedly!
2002-2007
2002-2008 for me.
As a person who grew up with the tna impact name. Especially the 3 years from 06-09 was fantastic. The name has some nostalgia to it for people in their mid to late 20s and early 30s. When wwe was making Shelton have a momma and other stuff tna gave us the X division. Kurt angle and joe etc
I’m 25 about to be 26 next month I loved TNA use to Watch faithfully every week on Spike
Matt Morgan and beer money were top notch at that time
Kurt was World Heavyweight champion on SmackDown when Mama Benjamin was around. And don't act like TNA didn't do sillier stuff. They did a full episode story arc where Kurt was walking around in a speedo backstage with Borash, threatening and assaulting random people because someone stole his clothes while tanning. 😅
No just no. Joe was pure cringe at that time. Wrestling fans have clearly become very dumb.
@@quentinkaasa47lmao I remember that 😂
I understand Jim’s feelings on the “TNA” branding, but as a longtime fan I COMPLETELY welcome the change back to TNA. “Impact” is an unknown brand where’s “TNA” has some equity behind it
tna isnt worth shit stop it.....
@@trahapace150 TNA has more value than AEW, you stop it
Its nothing other than a nostalgia hit for a small amount of people and nostalgia wears off very quickly. They should have wound the company up years and years ago.
@TotalCruiserBabe Define value. Listen say whatever you want about AEW, but they're closer to legitimate competition to WWE then TNA ever was lol. They're closest since WCW by every conceivable relevant metric.
@@TotalCruiserBabetna gets under 100k viewers a week😂
Every time I see Russo in the cover art, I know we’re in for a treat.
It's low hanging fruit.
Jim and Russo are friends behind the kayfabe
@@adamirishconundrum851hahaha yeah ok
Cornette as Mushmouth. I know I say it so much it has lost all meaning, but yet again Travis is outdoing himself.
Oh wait that's not Mushmouth, it's Rudy...
2004 to 2009 TNA was fantastic to the point that I got a bunch of childhood memories watching it and never stopped calling it that so I see this as a win
I remember that the TNA wrestling was returning to the original name. The Women's Division was the best women's division in professional wrestling before NXT women's division that's took over.
It's still the best. NXT hasnt taken that.
I never stopped referring to it as TNA.
I'm truly curious who in Impact/TNA mgmt peed in Brian's cheerios many years ago? His vendetta against the company is unyielding despite him clearly not watching the product in many years...
My guess is that he really is a fan of old school wrestling. Not really what TNA got themselves over for, especially in their glory years, 2005-2009.
Perhaps he just remember it for the intensely russo-esque presentation and storylines and really dislike it for that matter.
I literally died when Brian said “the last 8 seconds of a basketball game can take 10 minutes” 🤣🤣🤣🤣 so incredibly accurate!
Jeff Jarrett said that nobody outside of the US even calls them Impact Wrestling, even business related people would still refer to them as TNA, so maybe they're just tired of pretending they aren't and getting backlash for it.
Impact themselves said this as well
this, also no one outside the US even knows the tits and ass meme, only american boomers probably do
TNA 2002-2009 was very special
It was amazing
No it wasn’t. It was just something different from WWE. It was crap
I’ve watched the acclaimed Daniels-Joe-AJ match since the name change announcement. Good shit, pal! They had a great roster in the 2000s. I’m glad a few of their homegrown talents were able to make careers in WWE and Japan
@@csharp57you clearly need to feel the POUNCEEEEEEE... ... ... ... PERIOD
2002-2007
TNA's history good or bad is a history that people know about, Impact Wrestling has no history
the history of Impact is that it was a shell of its former self and was dead in the wrestling world.
This's Not Awesome Wrestling
Nazism has a history people know about but i doubt Germany will be bringing that back.
@userjim83 🤣 I did “not-see” that joke arriving!
@@userjim83Lmfaoo
I grew up watching TNA as a kid, I knew TNA as a wrestling company way before I knew about it being a dirty word.
1, that is the most Shitstain pose ever
2, I love how it's gone full circle, for years everyone said TNA would be dead, and not only is it not dead, it's literally being re-birthed lol
Even though TNA won’t be as big as it once was in 2008/2009, it’s nice to see them go back to their old roots.
It's better off now as they can actually sell tickets to events, something they struggled with before.
I have bigger faith in TNA's return than AEW's on-going struggles
i was gonna say i want to see the AEW faithful VS the TNA faithful this is the blood bath i want to see i hope tna can compete with AEW atleast it would make for a better product for overall
At this point, if TNA outlives AEW I wouldn't be surprised.
lol so stupid
TNA has already outlived ECW, WCW, AEW, and many of old territories mates.
@@baconoftheark AEW isn’t dead you dummy
As someone who watched TNA around 06-09 I'm nostalgic for the name TNA.
Never really followed it but TNA has a soft spot for me. I was at the very first show in Huntsville, AL in 2002. A week or so prior I got to meet Jeff Jarrett who was near my house promoting the event and got a picture with him. Nice guy.
Jeff is pretty cool. I kinda got to know him a little bit when he was wrestling in Memphis in the early 90s. Jeff, his tag partner Robert Fuller (Col.Rob Parker/Tennessee Lee), the Moondogs, and even Giant Gonzales would hang out after the matches and talk to fans for a while. I went as often as possible, and would talk to Jeff whenever I went. I got to know him well enough that he would recognize me and come say hi. He was a nice guy.
I actually legit miss TNA I'd rather watch at any day than . Anything AEW does
It's not like rebranding to tna will make the product better.
And better than wwe you fucking Smark
@@TheTalk23the current product is decent
Facts I've probably watched like 3 or 4 aew episodes max , can't do it. TNA returning 2024 is music to my ears.
@@lo516yall don't have adam Copeland so its all good
For some reason I skipped TNA during the Kross/Blanchard era, and barely paid attention during the EC3/Galloway/Drake era, but they have been so solid since 2020. What's amazing about their entire history is that there was never a point when their roster was thin or uninteresting. Also, TNA has definitely come into its own recently with them no longer needing to be flanked by ex-WWE guys anymore.
They're still flanked. Whatchu mean? Tommy Dreamer, Mickie James, Trinity Fatu, Brian Myers, Dango, PCO, Heath, Lio Rush, Rhino, Rich Swann, Oleg Prudius, Santino.. like... really?
@michaelmfwayne they aren't hogging the main event scene though
@@michaelmfwayne Mickie James in a TNA original so take her off the list.
Intergender wrestling is dumb
Ive been liking impact lately more than aew I'm glad TNA is back
😂😂😂😂
@notgonnalieitsprettyfunny7884 😂😂😂😂😂 the embarrassment is those 3 shows that air on Warner bros discovery 😂😂😂😂that barely can draw 3000 and constantly get destroyed in viewership Numbers everyweek
It's been a consistently good to great show.
TNA is more well known than Impact as a brand. That's what it boils down to. I don't think it changes anything in the grand schemes of things, but this is a way for them to get more attention, good and bad.
I liked TNA as a kid. It had a grit that WWE didn’t have at the time. It was a nice alternative. It had great tag teams like the Motor City Machine Guns, LAX, Dudley Bros, and Beer Money Inc in a time where WWE had hardly any legit tag teams. It’s women’s division shit all over WWE’s at the time. It had what is is still my favorite Kurt Angle run. AJ Styles was this new, amazing talent to behold. Scott Steiner and Booker T were funny as shit. I think it’s biggest downfall is that it couldn’t do long-term booking for shit. The roster was insanely stacked in that 2005-2009 era. It still feels like a much more legitimate alternative than AEW ever had been and with a fraction of the budget.
Scott D'Amore is a fantastic president of Impact AND booker .. Impact 's leadership is just fine.
can definitely speak on this. i remember saying i was a TNA fan as a kid to adults, family, teachers, friends, friends parents, and getting weird looks. never mind even explaining to my mother i wanted to watch TNA on spike, can i please stay up late lmfao
I liked the old TNA for the reason it was a alternative from wwe. Back in the day it was what AEW was promised to be. I think they are better than AEW is today. Controversial yes, but they have been better lately. I also like that they seem to willing to try different things, they don't always work. But it isn't bad for new things to happen if they stick.
Ya early to mid 2000s TNA was unique and original! New wrestlers, new fresh gimmicks, different ring, unique divisions. Everything about it was different than WWE and it was really exciting
@Rowri88 absolutely. I'll never forget finding it on cable one day. I was like "oh hey, this Jarrett vs. Monty Brown looks amazing."
Yes. New things can be bad
@@kingpen6432Chris Sabin drew me into the very first TNA match I watched, but I was sure Monty Brown was gonna be a star.
@jpmiller7922 Sabin was epic. And kinda still is, those younger days of his was the best just cause of nostalgia alone. And Monty Brown should have taken that strap! That would have been a damn rocket on his back. JJ doing the job on his own show to a young, talented up and Comer.
Maybe it was because I was quite young(12 ish) when I started watching TNA, I loved it. 2006-2012 Kurt Angle was absolutely insane, and they had some real talents(styles, Kaz, Daniels, Skipper, Ron Killings, etc) and I was probably too young to care if it was "bad for business"
"You can on the witness protection program and still be safe on Impact" - Jim Cornette
Unless you pick up the progressing Illustrated top 500 and you see Josh Alexander and deonna purrazzo and Masha slamovich who are all in the top 25 I find Jim cornette very funny and very engaging and I love it podcast but he is wrong on this
Jeff Jarrett left the company because he stole the wife of their biggest star the first time and got drunk in Mexico the second time.
I agree a lot with Jim, but he denying JJ’s responsibility in the fall of TNA is very cringe.
He's biased as hell with Jeff Jarrett and it shows.
Dixie carter,ruined it, not Jarret.
@@victor.elkins I'm well aware Dixie and Russo were the biggest reason for TNA's decline during the early 2010's.
But Jeff Jarrett was just as much of a problem long before Hogan came into the picture.
Not as big of a problem as Hogan was, but had just as much of an ego.
I know he loves Jeff but people acting like Jeff wasn't a major contributor to the many dysfunctions of the original TNA are delusional.
It's like if the current Raw changed it's name back to "Raw is War" but it's still the same show. Nothing changed.
So far they said no 6 sided ring.
I still remember when it RAW IS WAR 9 - 10 WAR ZONE 10 - 11
Raw is ballet, it hasn't been war for a long time
Every single person I know has always called it TNA, even after they changed the name. I'm sure most people have, so they must have finally accepted their fate.
If there’s no six sided ring and “Cross the Line” isn’t the theme song, then they’re already starting off on the wrong foot.
Why did they remove the 6 sided ring?
As a fan I love the six-sided ring, but all of the wrestlers HATE working in it. It’s stiffer because of the larger number of support beams needed, the weird angles throw off your timing, and the ropes have a weird amount of tension. If the wrestlers hate it, then it’s probably best to not use it
@@darthraider450 it didn't work for Hogan, brother
@@jameswesten2018Or virtually any of the wrestlers, as it turns out.
maybe introduce the six-sided ring for special events, maybe the X-division or Battle Royals. Makes it more of a rare thing to look forward to and lessens the strain on talent.
I know the original meaning behind the name is dumb, but “T&A” isn’t really a thing people say anymore. I like most people who grew up on TNA never associated it with that.
When TNA began, they were affiliated with NWA and had their belts.
The powers that be at TNA should call up Billy Corgan and get back together.
At least with NWA, you have the oldest name brand in pro wrestling.
TNA coming back is probably the biggest thing in pro wrestling in the last couple years
It wasn't Jericho making excuses?😂😂😂😂😂
Yeah because nothing else happened in the last 2 years ^^
Not Vince retiring🤔
Vince retiring? CM Punk? What a mark!😂😂😂
Except that it's nowhere near that level....
Vince retiring
WWE being sold
Bray Wyatt dying
Gunther's IC Title reign
Roman's world title reigns
Cody leaving AEW for WWE
CM Punk's return
CM Punk's scrum scandal
CM Punk's fight with Jack Perry
Debut of Collision
Plane ride from Hell scandal
Supposed Wembley attendance record
Edge to AEW
Steph leaves WWE
Etc Etc Etc Etc Etc
As someone who likes lots of Jim's opinions I completely disagree cause I'm also someone who's watched impact and can tell this entire segment is from the perspective of someone who doesn't watch the product. Wrestling problem number 1
It's so obvious neither he nor Last watch but still spent 20 min rehashing old stuff. Why waste their own time or that of their listeners?
"A girl won". That woman holds several powerlifting records so she's stronger than many of the men Jimmy managed over the years.
Of the great matches on that event, the takeaway was "a girl" won a gauntlet battle royal in an underneath match?
Honestly they are going back to TNA because of the long time fans. For me I still think of it as TNA. However if Jeff would have given it a better name than Russos idea. This all could have been avoided.
Lmao Keith Lee in the thumbnail look crazy
Can take a vote !!!! I for one would love for Jim to watch anything impact or tna going forward I would love for him to do a review of bound for glory, ABC versus the rascals, Mike Bailey versus Will osprey, Alex Shelly and Josh Alexander there are good matches to be seen if you take time away from dumping on the company!!!
Those matches were hot garbage and they hired Sonny Kiss.
TNA is just a glorified AEW show.
Let me give you a preview of Cornette’s review:
“And then… Brian… HAWWWW… we had Will Ostrich versus a shoeless gymnastic guy who goes by the name “Speedball.” Isn’t a speedball a form of drugs, Brian? So we got an Ostrich vs a barefoot drug addict. And they did all the loop-de-loops and have-a-Coronas that all these neckbeard fans love. And it went 10,000 miles per hour, never slowed down, and got all the “This Is Awesome” chants from the fat virgins that love this crap…. HAAAWWWW!”
@@Voysh2Voysh69 I mean... that's how the match will be and he won't be wrong.
Right? Before you spent 20 min dumping on it, watch the show. Give yourself some credibility on the topic.
I’m actually looking forward to this. I still refer to impact as TNA. There’s no Dixie Carter, there’s no Shitstain Russo… the logo/moments before the rebrand/Russo/Hogan still resonate with me. A lot of great talent got showcased back in TNA glory years.
"One word: HEAT"
BRO!
When he called it "Tits N Ass Wrestling" I literally understood how Velvet Sky got over.
Put TNA on Wednesday nights and have WWE help them destroy AEW by lending them talent.
Kinda like they did with ECW back in the 90s.
I really miss mid 00's wrestling. It was not only the best of TNA, but also ROH, NOAH and last time WWE was great.
I'm guessing you were born in 1997
@@josereyes1148 No, some years earlier. But in my country we only got mid 90's WWF broadcast and just some months of WCW. On 00's I got access to NOAH and NJPW as well, and WWE was broadcasted again along with TNA.
Jeff Jarrett spoke on his podcast a few days back about how Anthem's change of the name in the first place was against his advice. He also mentioned that the change was only for North America and how most countries never experienced the change and it's always been TNA Wrestling and still are. They've been bringing back all the former talent over the last year or two; The Motor City Machineguns, Bully Ray (and in the case of recent appearances D-von as well), America's Most Wanted, Frankie Kazarian (and his wife Traci Brooks), Christopher Daniels, Eric Young (alongside Scott D'Amore and A-1 of Team Canada), Little Guido, Nick Aldis (immediately prior to his WWE debut) and a bunch of others. Ace Steel id now working in the back and Punk (was most likely visiting Ace Steele, Mickey James and others) has been visiting there lately but no one knows what his situation is at the moment.
It was boring then, it's boring now. Bringing back back the,dudleys is cringe.
@@a_ya5555legit question when's the last time you watched if you watch lately and you still say it's boring then you must be a garbage match bullshit wrestling fan because that's not what they're doing now
Hopefully this version of TNA gets a proper shot at the big time, because more promotions thriving makes for a better experience for fans, makes for a better landscape for wrestlers.
If I were running it, I'd be monitoring the contractual statuses of all the originals and influential names that contributed to the growth and success of TNA. TNA needs a solid mix of young indie talent, a good handful of veterans, and some recognizable, “mainstream” talent that can garner viewership and ticket sales.
They seem to have that now: Alexander, Bey, Trey Miguel, Ace Austin on young talent, Eric Young and MCMG on vets, Bully Ray, Tommy Dreamer, Trinity, Mickie James on recognizable talent.
I hope they don't try to do too much too quickly, because they're at a good point now of packing small venues, and traveling around.
It's clear that Jim and Brian are not keeping up with what's going on in Impact, and have no idea how succesful they've been lately.
Yup 💯
Not keeping up and not even trying. Last thinks they don't have leadership with a vision???? Dumbest thing he's said all year.
@davidiihouston6883 they can really just say nothing, it's ok!
They also do what a lot of kids here do, the “Well *I* have never heard of so & so, therefore *no one* knows who they are” bit
Even if Brian and JC seem negative about TNA returning, there's no denying they're survivors and a better product than AEW now.
"T&A" isn't really a well known slang phrase outside of America, so globally the name TNA wasn't considered that bad or a joke, maybe why it worked better on a global scale.
If they could get back to the roots of what TNA was supposed to be and was from 02-09, they could truly be a breath of fresh air in modern wrestling. I watch classic wrestling 95% of the time because the business has become a shell of its former self.
If WWE went back to WWF I guarantee you’d get ppl watching again just because. Nostalgia can be profitable if marketed right & not abused.
As long as the stupid panda is still in business, they aren't reverting back without another lawsuits from the panda
bound for glory this year was awesome
Ah yes, TNA. The company that gave birth to Perc Angle
In fairness, I think A LOT of us never stopped calling it TNA
I don't watch TNA, but man not everything is not as doom and gloom as they say
Nostalgia can be a powerful drug.
I've heard for years that TNA consistently delivers a great show, but I haven't been motivated enough to check it out. Nevertheless, they'll need more than just some buzz to make a significant impact (no pun intended.)
I hope TNA can establish key differentiators or competitive advantages compared to the fed or dub to engage viewers and fill in gaps that the big two may not be addressing.
Tna from 2002 to 2009 was great.
@TheFailedmessiah 05-09 pre 05 was definitely facing growing pains and despite cornette's feeling for the guy, nobody liked Jeff Jarrett's shoe horning his midcarder ass in the mainevent.
Jarret was more entertaining than 90% of TNA's roster. They had too many jobbers wrestling as mid carders.
They've already done all of that, which is why they've been trending up the last few years. They're doing their part now fans can decide if they want to watch or not. Funny how people will complain about WWE or AEW but keep watching but wont even try with Impact. Their loss.
Jim's plug for the draftkings had me dying at work. If Basketball was booked like a late 90s Wrestling event. I would watch every game.
One of the main reasons why they switched back has to do with their international audience and tv companies. Now as for the product as a whole, their shows have been good lately except that battle royal but the matches and talent has been improved but they still need a better tv deal
Impact and especially Scott D'amore have been doing extremely well the past two years. They have the best women's Division in north America. A super fun Tag and X-divsion, And a maint event scene thats constantly has something fun going on.
It's a shame some people still have "opinions" on something they saw 5-6 years ago and project that on the current product instead of doing some research.
I will say for someone who hasn't watched a Impact/TNA show for 3 years I really enjoyed that PPV.
We are in the era of nostalgia, so makes sense why they would go back to TNA. People are looking backwards to things they found enjoyable, endearing or comforting due to how bad everything modern is becoming. Wrestling is a microcosm of that, that so many fans are burnt by today’s product they yearn for yesteryear
For the first time I don’t agree with this podcast, what TNA did 20 years ago is what Wwe and AEW is doing today, x division style wrestling, AEW old stage with tunnels, aj styles, Samoa Joe and other things. For the first time TNA has a real chance to become an alternative, what AEW was supposed to do but yet fails miserably
Hey man,if you disagree with this old grandpa for the first time ever then I need to tell you,don't ever agree with him ever again.
@@muryt12 i more then convince that he is not real, he is more a gimmick.
When Swinger, Juvi, and Rhyno were in the BFG Gauntlet, there was an ECW chant... Let's rebrand!
TNA grabbed me with those knockouts👀 back in the day when i was flipping through channels when wwe aired them Main Event shows also saw kurt & booker t and was like what the!. To be honest i started back watching again shortly before Trinity signed with them its a few people there i like but anyways glad its back to TNA
The beautiful people 🔥🔥🔥
The second I saw Fat Albert and "Rudy" Cornette, the Fat Albert theme started playing in my head.
There are only 2 things worth remembering from TNA. Velvet Sky and Scott Steiner promos.
When I told a friend years ago I went to a TNA wrestling show, he thought it was strippers. I get it.
I disagree with Brian about TNA never being the innovator. Both the X Division and The Knockouts division preceded anything that the WWE tried to do that was similar by a decade(NXT and making women's wrestling the focus for a good portion of the show)
One of the few occasions I completely disagree with Jim and Brian.
And it's so good to see the people in the comment section doing the same, almost unanimously.
For me it was Total Nonstop Action since 2006 when I first saw it. This year was the first time when I heard the "tits n ass" mockery, in one of russo's promos from the early days of the company. It was replayed on a youtube show that does reviews of old NWA-TNA episodes, but besides that, I never knew it was a thing and never before saw a comment or a clip talking about it. And I watch a lot of stuff related to old TNA...
TNA from 06-09 is some of my favorite times in wrestling, especially when WWE was having their worst year in 09. Jim can miss me with his hatred of TNA.
I'm actually glad they're changing back to TNA (I never stopped thinking of it as TNA), but this company has had more names than Ed Leslie.
This is one segment where Jim and Brian are in the wrong. They truly haven't understood the level of shitless nostalgia we have for the tna that have us Aj Joe, angle, christian, the x division, a roster which was undoubtedly the greatest roster of men and women a company had up to that time. Scott dmore had a great line "we have apologized for the part for too long"
The awkward moment when TNA/Impact (which is supposedly about to die at any moment) has been in business almost twice as long as WCW and over 2 times as long as ECW.
TOTAL NONSTOP BRO!
I tried giving TNA a shot recently but a rip off Frankenstein and a fat old guy doing a Canadian destroyer every 5min made me tune out real quick.😂
Impact was always TNA for me, however, the name TNA does have negative connotations to those who don’t know what it is or ever watched it. I am hoping that they will succeed with this hurdle. That being said, this would be a great opportunity for them to compete with AEW as the second U.S. based wrestling organization. Let’s see what happens.
Agreed. Chances are nothing is going to change but combine this with Corgan’s plans for NWA and suddenly indie wrestling is looking exciting for a hot minute.
Not in North America it doesn't which is why one of the reasons they're going back to the name because they do a lot of business in England add places like that and they never considered DNA to be anything other than Total Nonstop Action
I've still called them TNA
They are just embracing their roots
Anyone hating on impact or tna is just a negative loser. I been watching impact on and off for 20 years. But very religiously since 2019. Between that and nwa, and uwn, i have had all thr pro wrestling fix, without any nonsense wwe or aew. Believe me, im not missing anything. I just got home from nwa samhain and it was one of the loudest, funnest even ive had in yrs and yrs.
They changed their not because it didn’t work, but because there were legal implications.
This is blind hate at the moment right? When's the last time they reviewed a show?
The hilarious thing is that we will be having the exact same conversation 10 years from now about AEW.
“TNA” is when they had the most success.
Remember in WWF, Test and Albert, their tag team was called TNA, managed by Trish Stratus
No it was T&A
Jim saying that its unnatural to only have one intimate partner in your life is a weird boomer thing to say. Sorry Jimmy but that was a miss
I cringed and FF. I love Jim but its always weird when he brings that up to bash Russo. There’s a million things to bash him for but that one is dumb.
I was waiting for this from Jim and Brian 🤣🤣❤️
Why is it that Jim cannot seem to keep his mouth shut when it comes to Vince Russo?! He must like getting sued I guess. 😀 Then again, hurling insults and veiled threats against Russo is likely the only way the old man feels like a bad ass! I often wonder what would have happened if Jim had ever followed through on any of those threats against Vince Russo? Oh I know, he would be in jail or got beaten up or killed by a much younger man in self defense! 😂
Lack of experience in vaginal navigation had me rolling😂😂😂
It won't bring in a 2nd golden era for the brand as some people from the company have suggested, but it's the most logical move this company has made in 6 years. I never got why they changed it to begin with.
Who cares what "TNA" alludes to, who came up with it or what their motives were. It's what this company was known as and the name with which it reached the heights it did in 2008-2011. Rebranding it as "Impact Wrestling" hardly won them over any new fans.
And bringing TNA back probably won't win any new fans either.
When Jim speaks of a crummy, shitty wrestling promotion, AEW comes to mind, not TNA.
Finally!! I knew Jim was gonna give his thoughts & feelings about this.
You knew he was gonna shit on it he just going off old narrative doesn't pay attention to product
@@StevenPatrick-iw6mk I respect Cornette, but he takes so long to discuss a topic that becomes old news.
Got to love it when Cornette complains about what TNA/Impact has done... when all one has to do is go look and look at every place he's ever worked and find stuff even more outlandish.