personally due to the fact that the break set works on any break main dps like xueyi, luka, a superbreak shushang. Vonwaqc is also a valuable set for low cycle clears on characters like tingyun since with eagle set and s5 dance dance dance its an 89% action advance on the first wave. its also very very good on pela to guarantee her defense shred as the first character in the party to act. It is my go to set for my robin at 120 speed since the enrgy regen and the action advance means more actions for the whole team. vonwaqc also a good way to try get a 2 turn ultimate on sparkle for an imbibitor lunae(needs sparkle to be hit twice with bronya signature lc) especially if u dont have the energy regen from his signature lc. its also very valuable for bronya's energy regeneration to try make sure a 3 turn ultimate is possible
World 4 should definitely be B tier. Basically all units in a break team want to stack BE(Gallagher, Lingsha, HMC). It’s basically their best option because the other supportive sets don’t provide much benefit to a break team. Considering we’re also in the break meta, it makes sense to farm this as pretty much any break dps other than firefly would want it
In my opinion, World 9 and 10 should be swapped. World 10 break set, if you don't have Firefly, is just dead. Even if you do have her, World 4 is an alternative, so it's not like that's her only set. The follow-up set in World 10 is good, but it really depends on the team and characters. Meanwhile, World 9 has a great universal set for PF and is more valuable for the rising meta with two characters of the same path: Acheron, Feixiao, and PF with dual Erudition. It's more versatile and worth farming than World 10, where you're really only farming one set.
the only issue is that the relevancy of dual path. it probably would take one more combo for the izumo set to be higher due to efficiency and because the sigonia set is a pure fiction only set where the main pure fiction carries can perform better with duran like jade, herta and himeko. the speed that the kaplani planars give are pretty good for characters like sparkle since when you are hyperbuffing crit dmg anyways, theres no real value in 10% crit dmg. they should have tuned the crit buffs from the sigonia set to be a bit higher
@iliketrainz4030 1 dual path is meta rn, acheron feixiao and erudition for pf is meta what more do you need? Second yeah sure I will farm this Doman for 6 speed instead of a more universal domain for support like what?
@@victorplaton2698 I mean to be fair it's not 100 percent accessible and the niche walue of sigonia tanks the efficiency a bit. If we are assuming a person has full meta, considerong Firefly meta or considering super break Gallagher/superbreak Himeko, they can add value to the set. The 6 speed on supports is just an if you need to. I would only do it on Ruan Mei (for the break effect), sparkle(because she only needs ER rope for her ult cycle) and Gallagher(gigachad 4 star for real) the thing about the Duran set is that it is universal for all follow up characters especially in pure fiction where the bonus can be maxed out quick and is permanent unlike sigonia iirc
Ya know, since Feixiao's team usually involves 1 Hunt Sub-DPS to help building her stacks like March, Moze, or Topaz, Izumo is also a great set for her. It might not be as good as Duran, but a flat Crit buff will always be powerful.
World 3 is fantastic for new accounts, it's a one stop shop of good enough to get you going. Pan-Cosmic is useful for DoT and debuff characters to hit the EHR levels needed to make sure their effects land.
i knew i was cooking when i switched my clara from physical/salsotto set into hp/duran set, her crit value feels way more consistent now (and my fu xuan + s1 sparkle helps with that too)
I guarantee you the banana set foretells a new summon meta, in which the rumored character Aglaea will be a part of. And then that summon meta will be totally forgotten by Hoyoverse after another trip to the Xianzhou where a new FuA carry releases and completely outclasses everything that came before. -Sincerely, a DoT account haver
This is an old ass video but World 9 is actually really good rn considering 3.X will have summons users for which banana will probably be if not BiS then at least usable & good on, and Lushaka is good for Sunday
I will be farming duran for moze , feixiao , dr ratio and kalphagni for FF and gg. I hope planar fissure comes soon . I got no usable piece on this one.
I never farmed Glamoth because I don't know how you guys manage to get so much speed on your characters. Even with boots giving 25 speed I struggle to reach the 135 threshold so 160 ?? That is impossible for me
As incredible as it may seem, I used Glamoth once and it was on my Jingliu, she has 161 speed, I use this set on her to this day because it has the best substats.
Hello Bag, sorry to bother. I'm a little confused. In a follow up team with ratio and Topaz, would topaz benefit more from banana?or izumo?or Duran?. As for ratio I think as you mentioned both Duran and sigonia? I just wanted to check your opinion on these specific caracthers since they are my second favorite team to use
Banana is the best for topaz but its also the hardest to justify farming for since like noone else can use it. Duran is second, izumo is third. For ratio Duran is his best option, izumo and salsotto can work for him too, since you use him with Topaz
Idk if you are even aware but Duran require an ally to follow up not the character you use it on so IT NEED to be in a dual follow up + sth else dps for it to work, it doesn't matter who hold it in, it's quite strict, Forge is in even worst spot, you don't have firefly? no need to farm it, should at least be B
Thats incorrect, you get a stack when any ally follow ups, including the wearer themselves. So if you have an ally that follow ups then that just makes it stack even faster
"Last DOT character was 2.0" Uhhh... Doesn't... you know... Jiaoqiu work as DOT? I know everyone sees him as Acheron support, or maybe glorified Pela, but like, he is a character that deals Burning damage, and he is made to deal damage as well as bring utility for other teams. No? Also, I feel like, while understandable that you mostly touched on "meta" units, I feel like you missed a bit in terms of how more widely available characters might use one or the other set. Like how the Belobog set, you only mentioned Aventurine (who really only uses broken keel) but not March 7th or Gepard (one everyone has, the other is easy to obtain), or how Broken Keel was mentioned for Boothill/HTB/RM but not Xueyi (who everyone has), or how it's still a solid set for all Break characters that are not specifically Sam. Like, don't get me wrong, really good video and very good tiers overall, but I feel like the set that is not Duran should have been ragged on a little harder, 6% speed IMO does not compensate the trash passive requirement of "has to fight an enemy with fire weakness"
Jiaoqiu isnt really worth it for dot imo. Black swan is a better dot applier in every situation. And as a third slot, you'd rather rave Ruan Mei or Robin. He becomes better as a third slot at e2s1 compared to e0 Ruan Mei or Robin but at that point you get more value investing in eidolons/light cones for Kafka, Black Swan, Ruan Mei, or robin. there's also the chance we get an actual fire nihility that's fully dedicated to dot.
@@totsukakatsu I understand that Jiaoqius damage is low compared to Black Swan, but how or why does that matter for the point? Is Guinaifen not a DOT character then? She has the lowest damage of all the DOT characters too.
@@rodrigoportalesoliva897you shouldn’t pull Jiaoqiu because he’s DoT… Gui is a 4* but no one genuinely uses her in DoT anymore unless people are missing Black Swan as the dps… Jiaoqiu is in the supportive role, when Gui was released she was typically used alongside Sampo and Kafka as the damage dealers due to her vulnerability but her supportive role was outclassed by Pela, then when Ruan Mei and Robin released she was completely out classed Jiaoqiu is competing with the support slot which has Ruan Mei and Robin, he’s useable but he’s not better than them… his DoT only matters at e2 but that cost isn’t worth it. You can’t replace the Kafka and Black Swan core in DoT and his value isn’t able to overcome Ruan Mei or Robin, he’s still good but because he’s a generalist debuffer, he is just like Ruan Mei and Robin in the way he doesn’t specifically help DoT. Calling him a DoT unit is like saying Ruan Mei and Robin are DoT units. He’s a good support, he’s only a DoT at e2.
i'd argue world 10 is a lot less universal than 7 tbh. there aren't many FuA characters and chances are if you didn't build a FuA team your only characters that could use it are himeko and herta who both like the pf set more. and march i guess but march doesn't seem that great outside of FuA teams either. Doesn't help that the other set is also super specific and borderline useless outside of firefly teams. Meanwhile you could slap rutilant on every dps and keel on supports and still do well, even if it's not the ideal set. I'd even rate 3 higher because it's in a similar, even if weaker spot to 7 where ageless is great if you have enough cdmg and want the atk and space sealing was the go to before rutilant and still is decent universally.
@@Haqua_ and how many of those would even use duran over another set? Herta and himeko are pretty much PF only, same for clara. Blade uses rutilant. It's really just the standard fua team with ratio/fei + topaz/march/moze + aventurine + robin that has duran users. If you don't run that or firefly there's no need to ever run w10.
@@Daniel-du5ec You just said MULTIPLE (7) characters that can FuA and thus benefit from the set. Yunli for duran, Gallagher can "Firefly set" as well (Lingsha probably can use it too). Also, Clara is on the same tier on MoC that she is on PF, making her totally NOT PF only. You are putting too much value on Rutilant...
@@Haqua_ you wouldn't want to run firefly set on lingsha or gallagher without the possibility to inflict fire weakness. It's dead too often otherwise. And the difference is, all FuA characters can run rutilant and still perform decently. But none of the non-FuA characters can run duran and there are far more of those. And again farming a set that has a useless set on the other side is never a good option. Which it is without firefly.
Imo world 10 should not be in S tier i dont have firemid and fire beak set seems kinda dead on my account this set is too specific and too niche to be in S tier (sure 6speed seems fine but will anyone here pick 6 speed over other good sets?? Even tho duran is op we can simply ise shards to farm for it) also world 9 in my opinion should go to S tier in the place of world 10 izumo is really universal in current 2 dps meta and sigionia as u said is strong mainly because a lot of the players are struggling with pure fiction
(What did firefly do to you? 😭) the main problem with izumo is that most of the users of it would also prefer duran, its 12% atk and 24cv vs 25% FUA dmg and 25 cv. Id say sigonia being uniquely good for non follow up-ing pf carries (mainly just seele and argenti) is balanced by ff’s set being good for her supports (gallagher, lingsha, and htb) due to her implant, since everyone else who could use sigonia…can just go duran. Its close, but duran is just too good to not put in S
Banana orb will always be #1 in my eyes
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Id ADORE a version of this for our relics as well! This actually helped put the sets in perspective for me, whos a serial guide watcher
the park is truly bananas with crit lingsha
personally due to the fact that the break set works on any break main dps like xueyi, luka, a superbreak shushang. Vonwaqc is also a valuable set for low cycle clears on characters like tingyun since with eagle set and s5 dance dance dance its an 89% action advance on the first wave. its also very very good on pela to guarantee her defense shred as the first character in the party to act. It is my go to set for my robin at 120 speed since the enrgy regen and the action advance means more actions for the whole team.
vonwaqc also a good way to try get a 2 turn ultimate on sparkle for an imbibitor lunae(needs sparkle to be hit twice with bronya signature lc) especially if u dont have the energy regen from his signature lc. its also very valuable for bronya's energy regeneration to try make sure a 3 turn ultimate is possible
World 4 should definitely be B tier. Basically all units in a break team want to stack BE(Gallagher, Lingsha, HMC). It’s basically their best option because the other supportive sets don’t provide much benefit to a break team. Considering we’re also in the break meta, it makes sense to farm this as pretty much any break dps other than firefly would want it
the quality of this infographics are crazy good job man, this looks like a lot of work
Thanks!
great video, great channel!!
In my opinion, World 9 and 10 should be swapped. World 10 break set, if you don't have Firefly, is just dead. Even if you do have her, World 4 is an alternative, so it's not like that's her only set. The follow-up set in World 10 is good, but it really depends on the team and characters. Meanwhile, World 9 has a great universal set for PF and is more valuable for the rising meta with two characters of the same path: Acheron, Feixiao, and PF with dual Erudition. It's more versatile and worth farming than World 10, where you're really only farming one set.
the only issue is that the relevancy of dual path. it probably would take one more combo for the izumo set to be higher due to efficiency and because the sigonia set is a pure fiction only set where the main pure fiction carries can perform better with duran like jade, herta and himeko.
the speed that the kaplani planars give are pretty good for characters like sparkle since when you are hyperbuffing crit dmg anyways, theres no real value in 10% crit dmg.
they should have tuned the crit buffs from the sigonia set to be a bit higher
@iliketrainz4030 1 dual path is meta rn, acheron feixiao and erudition for pf is meta what more do you need? Second yeah sure I will farm this Doman for 6 speed instead of a more universal domain for support like what?
@@victorplaton2698 I mean to be fair it's not 100 percent accessible and the niche walue of sigonia tanks the efficiency a bit.
If we are assuming a person has full meta, considerong Firefly meta or considering super break Gallagher/superbreak Himeko, they can add value to the set. The 6 speed on supports is just an if you need to. I would only do it on Ruan Mei (for the break effect), sparkle(because she only needs ER rope for her ult cycle) and Gallagher(gigachad 4 star for real) the thing about the Duran set is that it is universal for all follow up characters especially in pure fiction where the bonus can be maxed out quick and is permanent unlike sigonia iirc
@iliketrainz4030 dude I won't try to argue with you cuz you just ignore what I say and have a different opinion, good day
Feixiao really prefers duran, it's far better
This was a necesarry video. Thank you.
Ya know, since Feixiao's team usually involves 1 Hunt Sub-DPS to help building her stacks like March, Moze, or Topaz, Izumo is also a great set for her. It might not be as good as Duran, but a flat Crit buff will always be powerful.
World 3 is fantastic for new accounts, it's a one stop shop of good enough to get you going. Pan-Cosmic is useful for DoT and debuff characters to hit the EHR levels needed to make sure their effects land.
Amazing video cam you do relics sets next
Probably in 2.6 yeah!
@Iwasbag alright I'll wait
I'm still living in Salsotto 😔
Get out from there bro 😂, just use ur fodder to exchange it
i will farm salsotto forever
i knew i was cooking when i switched my clara from physical/salsotto set into hp/duran set, her crit value feels way more consistent now (and my fu xuan + s1 sparkle helps with that too)
I guarantee you the banana set foretells a new summon meta, in which the rumored character Aglaea will be a part of.
And then that summon meta will be totally forgotten by Hoyoverse after another trip to the Xianzhou where a new FuA carry releases and completely outclasses everything that came before.
-Sincerely, a DoT account haver
This is an old ass video but World 9 is actually really good rn considering 3.X will have summons users for which banana will probably be if not BiS then at least usable & good on, and Lushaka is good for Sunday
Speed/BE + FUA domain
And Rutilant Arena + Broken Keel domain as Most Efficient for me.
Besides DoT carries, can i still farm glamoth for my Seele? I have a usable 2 pc set of glamoth but is looking to improve my seele. Any thoughts?
Sparkle on the sidelines? Boys we got another Yunli denier.
Can you do lightcone rankings?
Firefly and yunli set is peak
I will be farming duran for moze , feixiao , dr ratio and kalphagni for FF and gg.
I hope planar fissure comes soon .
I got no usable piece on this one.
Vonwaq is S or A tier for 0 cycles players, for the rets of the people i agree that world is pretty meh
I never farmed Glamoth because I don't know how you guys manage to get so much speed on your characters. Even with boots giving 25 speed I struggle to reach the 135 threshold so 160 ?? That is impossible for me
160 is basically non reachable except for kafka and maaaaaybe seele? (Easily with e2). Most of the buff calculations is just assuming 135 speed
As incredible as it may seem, I used Glamoth once and it was on my Jingliu, she has 161 speed, I use this set on her to this day because it has the best substats.
i just use my e6 asta, her and speed boots = more dmg and more turns which = more dmg, alongside S5 DDD so i can pop ult when i setup all my buffs
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@@Iwasbag Nah. With luck, anything is possible🗿
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Hello Bag, sorry to bother. I'm a little confused. In a follow up team with ratio and Topaz, would topaz benefit more from banana?or izumo?or Duran?. As for ratio I think as you mentioned both Duran and sigonia? I just wanted to check your opinion on these specific caracthers since they are my second favorite team to use
Banana is the best for topaz but its also the hardest to justify farming for since like noone else can use it. Duran is second, izumo is third. For ratio Duran is his best option, izumo and salsotto can work for him too, since you use him with Topaz
now for caverns
Idk if you are even aware but Duran require an ally to follow up not the character you use it on so IT NEED to be in a dual follow up + sth else dps for it to work, it doesn't matter who hold it in, it's quite strict, Forge is in even worst spot, you don't have firefly? no need to farm it, should at least be B
Thats incorrect, you get a stack when any ally follow ups, including the wearer themselves. So if you have an ally that follow ups then that just makes it stack even faster
world 3 should be S
fleet > keel
vonwacq + talia c tier... how unbased can you be
"Last DOT character was 2.0" Uhhh... Doesn't... you know... Jiaoqiu work as DOT? I know everyone sees him as Acheron support, or maybe glorified Pela, but like, he is a character that deals Burning damage, and he is made to deal damage as well as bring utility for other teams. No?
Also, I feel like, while understandable that you mostly touched on "meta" units, I feel like you missed a bit in terms of how more widely available characters might use one or the other set. Like how the Belobog set, you only mentioned Aventurine (who really only uses broken keel) but not March 7th or Gepard (one everyone has, the other is easy to obtain), or how Broken Keel was mentioned for Boothill/HTB/RM but not Xueyi (who everyone has), or how it's still a solid set for all Break characters that are not specifically Sam.
Like, don't get me wrong, really good video and very good tiers overall, but I feel like the set that is not Duran should have been ragged on a little harder, 6% speed IMO does not compensate the trash passive requirement of "has to fight an enemy with fire weakness"
Jiaoqiu isnt really worth it for dot imo. Black swan is a better dot applier in every situation. And as a third slot, you'd rather rave Ruan Mei or Robin. He becomes better as a third slot at e2s1 compared to e0 Ruan Mei or Robin but at that point you get more value investing in eidolons/light cones for Kafka, Black Swan, Ruan Mei, or robin. there's also the chance we get an actual fire nihility that's fully dedicated to dot.
@@totsukakatsu I understand that Jiaoqius damage is low compared to Black Swan, but how or why does that matter for the point? Is Guinaifen not a DOT character then? She has the lowest damage of all the DOT characters too.
@@rodrigoportalesoliva897you shouldn’t pull Jiaoqiu because he’s DoT… Gui is a 4* but no one genuinely uses her in DoT anymore unless people are missing Black Swan as the dps… Jiaoqiu is in the supportive role, when Gui was released she was typically used alongside Sampo and Kafka as the damage dealers due to her vulnerability but her supportive role was outclassed by Pela, then when Ruan Mei and Robin released she was completely out classed
Jiaoqiu is competing with the support slot which has Ruan Mei and Robin, he’s useable but he’s not better than them… his DoT only matters at e2 but that cost isn’t worth it. You can’t replace the Kafka and Black Swan core in DoT and his value isn’t able to overcome Ruan Mei or Robin, he’s still good but because he’s a generalist debuffer, he is just like Ruan Mei and Robin in the way he doesn’t specifically help DoT.
Calling him a DoT unit is like saying Ruan Mei and Robin are DoT units. He’s a good support, he’s only a DoT at e2.
i'd argue world 10 is a lot less universal than 7 tbh. there aren't many FuA characters and chances are if you didn't build a FuA team your only characters that could use it are himeko and herta who both like the pf set more. and march i guess but march doesn't seem that great outside of FuA teams either. Doesn't help that the other set is also super specific and borderline useless outside of firefly teams. Meanwhile you could slap rutilant on every dps and keel on supports and still do well, even if it's not the ideal set. I'd even rate 3 higher because it's in a similar, even if weaker spot to 7 where ageless is great if you have enough cdmg and want the atk and space sealing was the go to before rutilant and still is decent universally.
"There arent many FuA characters" lol wut
Clara, Yunli, Jade, Topaz, Feixiao, Jing Yuan, Dr. Ratio, Jade, Blade, Herta, Himeko...
Clearly you misspelled and meant DoT characters...
@@Haqua_ and how many of those would even use duran over another set? Herta and himeko are pretty much PF only, same for clara. Blade uses rutilant. It's really just the standard fua team with ratio/fei + topaz/march/moze + aventurine + robin that has duran users. If you don't run that or firefly there's no need to ever run w10.
@@Daniel-du5ec You just said MULTIPLE (7) characters that can FuA and thus benefit from the set. Yunli for duran, Gallagher can "Firefly set" as well (Lingsha probably can use it too). Also, Clara is on the same tier on MoC that she is on PF, making her totally NOT PF only.
You are putting too much value on Rutilant...
@@Haqua_ you wouldn't want to run firefly set on lingsha or gallagher without the possibility to inflict fire weakness. It's dead too often otherwise. And the difference is, all FuA characters can run rutilant and still perform decently. But none of the non-FuA characters can run duran and there are far more of those. And again farming a set that has a useless set on the other side is never a good option. Which it is without firefly.
Imo world 10 should not be in S tier i dont have firemid and fire beak set seems kinda dead on my account this set is too specific and too niche to be in S tier (sure 6speed seems fine but will anyone here pick 6 speed over other good sets?? Even tho duran is op we can simply ise shards to farm for it) also world 9 in my opinion should go to S tier in the place of world 10 izumo is really universal in current 2 dps meta and sigionia as u said is strong mainly because a lot of the players are struggling with pure fiction
(What did firefly do to you? 😭) the main problem with izumo is that most of the users of it would also prefer duran, its 12% atk and 24cv vs 25% FUA dmg and 25 cv. Id say sigonia being uniquely good for non follow up-ing pf carries (mainly just seele and argenti) is balanced by ff’s set being good for her supports (gallagher, lingsha, and htb) due to her implant, since everyone else who could use sigonia…can just go duran. Its close, but duran is just too good to not put in S
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