Actually, Photography Online had a test of 5DSR against D850, and their conclusion was that they were both very good and there was no winner. I haven't tried the D850 myself, so I can't tell.
I have thought about getting a D850, so many features I want, but I have a lot of really good Canon glass. I do use a Atomos Shinobi with my 5DsR so I do get a few things not native to the camera. But the dynamic range of those Nikons is something I would love for my Canons to have. Oh well, bracketing or GND's gets me there.
@@jerryinsc I found Nikon has poorly dampened mirror/shutter system. Was never able to get perfectly sharp photos out of nikon d850 even in silent mode
Definitely and definitively not a draw. The Canon doesn’t even have a tilt screen? And at my age I’m not going bend my body into uncomfortable shapes when photographing flora and fauna just to squint through the eyepiece. The Canon ergonomics are better I think but really feel it should have been given a tilt screen. Unfortunately both Canon and Nikon have a habit of not quite getting it right with the exception of the D850 which almost fits my idea of the perfect camera…if it wasn’t so heavy. 😊
Yes they have become very cheap, you get a lot of camera for your money, though it requires you kept some lenses. They are still rather expensive, as they can be easily used on the newer cameras with an inexpensive adapter, and they still perform very well.
Underrated camera even if the d850 might be a better camera overall. And I'm saying that as a canon user. Color might be better on this though. And dynamic range - its not bad, its not as much as the 5D 4 but it's a stop behind at vase iso or so, which is way more than most people's screens can display anyway. Go to 800 iso and a modern R5 isnt really any better.
Thanks for your comment. The channel PhotographyOnline actually made a test of the D850 against the 5DSR, and concluded it as a draw. If you already are a Canon shooter, 5DSR is better, if you are a Nikon shooter, D850 wins. I am still amazed by the image quality this camera gives, and yes there are areas like the dynamic range, where for instance a 5D mark 4 wins, but overall it is remarkable that the 5DSR still holds on so well.
@key2adventure Oh yeah, as much as I like the mirrorless, I can't argue that my older dslr's pictures look.. pretty much exactly the same. Never gone over 20mp and don't really care for in the near future but it's a cool camera for sure.
1:37 Canon specifically did not include the 24-105 (any version) in the list of recommended lenses to support the resolution of the 5Ds and 5DsR, so using that lens will not test the full resolution capabilities of the camera. While it is a good lens, Canon doesn't think it's good enough for the 5Ds and 5DsR.
I wouldn't even call this camera good. A year later they released the 5D4 with a much better dynamic range. It would have been nice for the 5DSR to have such RAW flexibility, but they created it using older technologies. Also, this camera did not receive any functionality that had already been mastered in the 7D/70D. This camera could have appeared in 2012 along with the 5D3, there is nothing impossible in this camera for 2012 technologies. In many situations where you can't get by with just ETTR, it is the dynamic range that determines the quality and size of the file that can be sent to work. Unless, of course, you like to look at the detail through the noise. And the dynamic range of this camera is only half a stop higher than that of the 5D3 and about the same on a pixel-by-pixel level. So if you had to reduce the resolution of a photo to hide noise on the 5D3 (for stock for example), you will have to do it to about the same extent on the 5DSR. Of course, the average image size will increase, but I would rather work with the clean and flexible 36 megapixels of the Nikon than with these fragile 50 megapixels, ready to fall apart from vignetting correction. Canon simply closed the "hole" in the line under pressure from competitors who released many high-resolution cameras. And they did it very lazily, without a single innovation, without trying to improve the quality at base ISO, nothing like that, it is just 5D3 with 50 megapixels. "You asked for a high-resolution camera? Well, here's a high-resolution camera for you!"
That's your opinion. Many professionals would disagree as results show something different. I find this a much better camera than both the 5D mark III and IV, both cameras that I have used extensively over period of years. It's true that dynamic range isn't the best, but I find that not very often need more than what this camera gives. Some are completely obsessed with dynamic range, I'm not, I even love the images from old CCD based sensors although their dynamic range was much less than the newer CMOS. In my opinion there's so much more to good image quality than dynamic range. But if you constantly shoot in conditions that require high DR, then I can understand you.
Actually, Photography Online had a test of 5DSR against D850, and their conclusion was that they were both very good and there was no winner. I haven't tried the D850 myself, so I can't tell.
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The files from this camera are just beautiful!
Totally agree 😊
Great camera indeed. Fabulous colour quality and accuracy, still as good as/better than anything around now.
Fully agree on that
Yes of course is on the list! But occupied position nr. 2. .... after Nikon d850...
100%
Actually, Photography Online had a test of 5DSR against D850, and their conclusion was that they were both very good and there was no winner. I haven't tried the D850 myself, so I can't tell.
I have thought about getting a D850, so many features I want, but I have a lot of really good Canon glass. I do use a Atomos Shinobi with my 5DsR so I do get a few things not native to the camera. But the dynamic range of those Nikons is something I would love for my Canons to have. Oh well, bracketing or GND's gets me there.
@@jerryinsc I found Nikon has poorly dampened mirror/shutter system. Was never able to get perfectly sharp photos out of nikon d850 even in silent mode
imho the Nikon D850 was the best DSLR ever made. Top camera for over 4 years!
@@patrickmolloy6994 two of them since 2018… one stick with 24-70.2.8 nikkor and second 70-200 2.8 or sigma 60-600….
I haven't tried the D850, but Photography Online reviewed it against the 5DSR and called it a draw.
Definitely and definitively not a draw. The Canon doesn’t even have a tilt screen? And at my age I’m not going bend my body into uncomfortable shapes when photographing flora and fauna just to squint through the eyepiece. The Canon ergonomics are better I think but really feel it should have been given a tilt screen. Unfortunately both Canon and Nikon have a habit of not quite getting it right with the exception of the D850 which almost fits my idea of the perfect camera…if it wasn’t so heavy. 😊
Both legendary cameras, but built for different things 😄
I have the 5Ds,, that's what I use when I want the best photographs.. When its time to get serious,,
Great camera, regret, selling mine when i switched to Nikon. Tempted to buy another one seen as they are now available quite cheaply used.
Yes they have become very cheap, you get a lot of camera for your money, though it requires you kept some lenses. They are still rather expensive, as they can be easily used on the newer cameras with an inexpensive adapter, and they still perform very well.
Underrated camera even if the d850 might be a better camera overall. And I'm saying that as a canon user. Color might be better on this though. And dynamic range - its not bad, its not as much as the 5D 4 but it's a stop behind at vase iso or so, which is way more than most people's screens can display anyway. Go to 800 iso and a modern R5 isnt really any better.
Thanks for your comment. The channel PhotographyOnline actually made a test of the D850 against the 5DSR, and concluded it as a draw. If you already are a Canon shooter, 5DSR is better, if you are a Nikon shooter, D850 wins. I am still amazed by the image quality this camera gives, and yes there are areas like the dynamic range, where for instance a 5D mark 4 wins, but overall it is remarkable that the 5DSR still holds on so well.
@key2adventure
Oh yeah, as much as I like the mirrorless, I can't argue that my older dslr's pictures look.. pretty much exactly the same.
Never gone over 20mp and don't really care for in the near future but it's a cool camera for sure.
Nice video and I may just buy one if I can find a good used one with some lenses. Thank you
1:37 Canon specifically did not include the 24-105 (any version) in the list of recommended lenses to support the resolution of the 5Ds and 5DsR, so using that lens will not test the full resolution capabilities of the camera. While it is a good lens, Canon doesn't think it's good enough for the 5Ds and 5DsR.
No but for consistency reasons my Series on 5D cameras should all be done using the same lens
I wouldn't even call this camera good. A year later they released the 5D4 with a much better dynamic range. It would have been nice for the 5DSR to have such RAW flexibility, but they created it using older technologies. Also, this camera did not receive any functionality that had already been mastered in the 7D/70D. This camera could have appeared in 2012 along with the 5D3, there is nothing impossible in this camera for 2012 technologies.
In many situations where you can't get by with just ETTR, it is the dynamic range that determines the quality and size of the file that can be sent to work. Unless, of course, you like to look at the detail through the noise. And the dynamic range of this camera is only half a stop higher than that of the 5D3 and about the same on a pixel-by-pixel level. So if you had to reduce the resolution of a photo to hide noise on the 5D3 (for stock for example), you will have to do it to about the same extent on the 5DSR. Of course, the average image size will increase, but I would rather work with the clean and flexible 36 megapixels of the Nikon than with these fragile 50 megapixels, ready to fall apart from vignetting correction.
Canon simply closed the "hole" in the line under pressure from competitors who released many high-resolution cameras. And they did it very lazily, without a single innovation, without trying to improve the quality at base ISO, nothing like that, it is just 5D3 with 50 megapixels. "You asked for a high-resolution camera? Well, here's a high-resolution camera for you!"
That's your opinion. Many professionals would disagree as results show something different. I find this a much better camera than both the 5D mark III and IV, both cameras that I have used extensively over period of years. It's true that dynamic range isn't the best, but I find that not very often need more than what this camera gives. Some are completely obsessed with dynamic range, I'm not, I even love the images from old CCD based sensors although their dynamic range was much less than the newer CMOS. In my opinion there's so much more to good image quality than dynamic range. But if you constantly shoot in conditions that require high DR, then I can understand you.
So Canon where is the mirrorless version? Say 75mp . Not interested in video, but lighter flip out screen - or even removable.
No, it is not. Nikon D850 is the #1
Actually, Photography Online had a test of 5DSR against D850, and their conclusion was that they were both very good and there was no winner. I haven't tried the D850 myself, so I can't tell.
Nop - it is Nikon D 700 -
D800 is better against moire than D810 or D850