If the human race still exists in 200 years time,classical music will be the same as well as the present composition,if Wilson gets lucky against Stravinsky,Beethoven,Mozart etc...
why dont people just listen to the music as a whole instead of comparing which guitarist or drummer is better? The way musicians feel is differing from each other, basically.
Dave Kilminster is a Giant guitar player! And of course,he's not Guthrie Govan! Ιt's just Dave Kilminster! Untie your full-stucked minds and listen the man...
Steven Wilson has gathered the best selection of musicians to surround himself with on this current tour, it was an absolute joy to see him at Hammersmith last week... Ninet Tayeb being there too, with her astonishing voice, put the cream, icing and cherries on the cake!! Epic, awesome and amazing long may he continue to make my ears very happy!!
How has it been three years already?! I remember him joking about the merch like it was yesterday. "Buy the new Mute Gods album, it's very good. But only after you've bought all my stuff first, of course. Steven Wilson fondue set..."
What an incredible artist...Steven Wilson...creating this brilliant music...and then having these amazing musicians on stage. Dave Kilminster.... no words….
Tuve mucha suerte de ver a Steve y su banda en mi ciudad de Calgary en el año 2017 en un pequeño teatro. Uno de los momentos más impactantes de mi vida!
Steven's voice is so damn expressive. He doesn't have much range but he doesn't need it. Imagine his singing if he have at least 70% of Freddie Mercury's range. Every creature on Earth will shed tears at the same time.
He said in one of the interview that he hate oversinging and I'm 100% with him on that. The tragedy of lots of potentially good singers with wide vocal range is that they feel obliged to demostrate it as often as possible instead of using it to serve the songs.
I remember watching the reactions of everyone in the soundboard when I saw them at the Belly Up and they performed this song. Ive never seen a group of people in the soundboard look so intently on the performance , like they were watching some unknown manifestation of Pink Floyd, Genesis, etc perform.
The works of a composers lives from the gaze that is given to it. It is not limited to what it is, nor to the one who produced it, it is also made by the one who hears it. Music, painting and sculpture are a space of questioning and meditation where the senses that we attribute to it can come and be done and be undone at any time✨
I never thought anyone would be even close to filling Guthrie's shoes. Dave impressed me beyond belief. I still love Guthrie, but Dave serves the band as well. Guthrie has a grittier sound with his leads and more chime with his clean tones. It's all in the picking. Dave has a more modern sound. I've seen Steve many times, through all of his lineup changes, and I can say that they have all impressed me. I don't know what it is, but it doesn't sound right without Marco's drumming. Gavin played on the first album and I think he would be able to give us that effect, as well. I've never been unimpressed or upset for any of his performances. Everyone that has played in this band is a substantial musician. For anyone who doesn't know, Steve has had Jordan Rudess, Tony Levin, Trey Gunn, Pat Mastelotto, Steve Hackett, Gavin Harrison and more on his albums.
I hear what your saying I think Craig the current drummer does an incredible job though. I don't know who else could possibly fill Marcos or Gavin's shoes and do it so well.
I remember Guthrie being asked in an interview if he had concerns about another guitarist playing his parts in Steven Wilson's band incorrectly. He said, "no, cos it's Dave". I actually saw Dave play with Guthrie at "music live" at the NEC in Birmingham UK over a decade ago, when Guthrie was promoting erotic cakes. Two masters who at the time were unsung. It's great to see both finally getting recognition for their amazing talent.
@@davidderoux7552 I mentioned Guthrie because the person that started the thread mentioned Guthrie. Read his paragraphs and mine will make sense to you.
Reason never seems to come to guilty men Things that meant so much mean nothing in the end That function is dysfunction and to hide the truth Distracted by their faith, ignoring every proof A bicycle A garden wall A mother's call A love is born And after all, the sleet that falls on me In this city there are these who'd live alone Twilight brings them from the gloom into our homes And hiding there among the wreckage left behind They see things that aren't there when they close their eyes Come back if you want to And remember who you are 'Cause there's nothing here for you my dear And everything must pass When the world doesn't want you It will never tell you why You can shut the door but you can't ignore The crawl of your decline You can try if you want to You can try Come, child Go back if you want to
The next show was in New York, and he had totally lost his voice. Luckily for us, Ninet was there, and sang seven or eight songs. Even David sang a couple. As Steven growled, a most memorable night.
Dadle una silla y un estudio de grabación, y no solo lo mejorará, sería un grandísimo solo. Mirad el solo de guitarra que hace Guthrie en esta misma canción en directo, año 2013, y no es ni parecido al de la grabación original.
Kilminster is a better guitarist, in my opinion. Regret #9 is the finest guitar solo I have ever seen live..... including Hackett, Gilmore etc etc.....
I loved the solo but it didn’t create the same tension and release as I hoped it would. It’s a great solo and Dave is a great player. He can improvise well, but if I were to rehearse or practice the solo for the song with my own improve I would practice how to build tension and release because it matches the same energy as the chord progression for that solo. That’s what makes that solo so great! Same example is Petrucci’s Best of times solo. Tension and release! Build up and match the same energy as the progression. And resolve gracefully.
Guthrie is a technical behemoth, but I don't know... I just feel like Dave fits better in the band and specially on Steven's musical offering. He sounds more vintage, more 70's.
I can't speak for the recordings but as a live guitarist , i do feel he fits in better as GG's solo's live are completely different from the studio versions and don't completely fit in.
I agree that Dave does sound vintage, but I also think that despite Guthrie being a technical genius, he is still capable of adapting into any type of style. Drive Home is a great example.
This Tom Anderson guitar sounds so good! Also when I heard the band live in Sofia, Bulgaria. Definitely preferred it over Kilminster's Les Paul. I know, it's a matter of taste and the choice of guitar depends on the particular song.
Difference between him and marco is that marco wouldnt even break a sweat.. difference between me and craig is that i wouldn't even try hahaah. respect
+Tasos Trellopoulos I did get you wrong, so my apologies. Was an overreaction, given my having seen so damn many tired and ridiculous complaints about "fuck, those new guys aren't Marco and Guthrie"... which is literally true, obviously, but IMO it's irrelevant hero worship. Craig and Dave are great players, and simply bring something DIFFERENT to Steven's music. That being said - yes, I agree Guthrie's solos are nothing short of amazing. I've watched the video (repeatedly, 'cause I can't get enough) of him studio-recording the solo in Regret #9, and it's mindblowing! Should note, though, that he always improvises those solos, as does Dave... so kudos to both for walking that tightrope, and always killing it. :)
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If the human race still exists in 200 years time, THIS is classical music!
If the human race still exists in 200 years time,classical music will be the same as well as the present composition,if Wilson gets lucky against Stravinsky,Beethoven,Mozart etc...
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@@okimtulal9235 100% yes...!
NO. classical musics avoid the use of fifths which are used in this piece.
@@juegosderolenespanol3864 Loads of classical music uses fifths, tf u on?
Who's agree that this song is in top ten of all Steven Wilson's, PT, Blackfield, No Man, Storm Corrosion, etc songs
My top ten of songs in general.
This is my top 1
top 5 maybe
it is quite good...I never considered it because Steven has so many great songs but it is one of the best
I used to listen to it on my iPod 3 mini practically every day hahah
why dont people just listen to the music as a whole instead of comparing which guitarist or drummer is better? The way musicians feel is differing from each other, basically.
Indeed. Very anoing.
BECAUSE THEY ARE AMATEURS
Exactly if Steven has also got Freddy's kind of voices/octave he wouldn't go to this far and fame
Sergen Sakaoğlu good idea
Why not? If it annoys you that's your problem. May be interesting for others.
Dave Kilminster is a Giant guitar player! And of course,he's not Guthrie Govan! Ιt's just Dave Kilminster! Untie your full-stucked minds and listen the man...
Yea, he did a fantastic job!
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He is pretty good but this time I have to give it to Guthrie's solo
Dave is amazing, Hutchings is too, Guthrie is too. I couldn't dream of playing 10% of any of those giants!
Steven Wilson has gathered the best selection of musicians to surround himself with on this current tour, it was an absolute joy to see him at Hammersmith last week... Ninet Tayeb being there too, with her astonishing voice, put the cream, icing and cherries on the cake!! Epic, awesome and amazing long may he continue to make my ears very happy!!
not the best selection yet, with Marco Minneman it would be...
How has it been three years already?! I remember him joking about the merch like it was yesterday. "Buy the new Mute Gods album, it's very good. But only after you've bought all my stuff first, of course. Steven Wilson fondue set..."
@@yannickcampuzanomorales1170 guthrie govan is the key element
@@yannickcampuzanomorales1170 and Govan
@@incitatus634 Dave Kilminster nailed it IMHO
Only 236 Thousand Views in a little Over 7 Years?
Come on Music Lover's!
Mainstream is not a option dude, always better to be underground.
what a genius! recreating the studio version as complex and beautiful as this can only be done by Steven Wilson...love these guys!
This is insane. 7. I’m lucky to have seen this live.
What an incredible artist...Steven Wilson...creating this brilliant music...and then having these amazing musicians on stage. Dave Kilminster.... no words….
This is music that HAS to be taken seriously, very seriously. This is to be treasured!!!.......
13 minutes of pure awesomeness.
Tuve mucha suerte de ver a Steve y su banda en mi ciudad de Calgary en el año 2017 en un pequeño teatro. Uno de los momentos más impactantes de mi vida!
The way this piece of music builds up and progresses towards the ending of this work is definitely
superb. Great performance by all. I reckon.
Damn , dave kilminster nailed it
Of course he did. Such a fantastic player
Inches higher and higher all the while till it's on you, in you, it has all of you.
Steven's voice is so damn expressive. He doesn't have much range but he doesn't need it.
Imagine his singing if he have at least 70% of Freddie Mercury's range. Every creature on Earth will shed tears at the same time.
He said in one of the interview that he hate oversinging and I'm 100% with him on that. The tragedy of lots of potentially good singers with wide vocal range is that they feel obliged to demostrate it as often as possible instead of using it to serve the songs.
Diamond Dawg I agree. I struggle with liking my own voice despite people really saying they enjoy it. My range is limited but I try my best.
I remember watching the reactions of everyone in the soundboard when I saw them at the Belly Up and they performed this song. Ive never seen a group of people in the soundboard look so intently on the performance , like they were watching some unknown manifestation of Pink Floyd, Genesis, etc perform.
I was looking up minimoog and stumbled across this and I am hooked...it's everything I love
just...wow........!
I saw him in Brussels (AB) and that was awesome. Still affected..
The best concert...
There exist no words to describe this music!!!!!!!.........
Yes progressive rock😉
MASTER PIECE
My Favourite SW song period! Makes me sad, yet feel good listening to it every single time
Another Wilson masterpiece, played by masters. Love it !
Thank you for the upload!!!.
The works of a composers lives from the gaze that is given to it. It is not limited to what it is, nor to the one who produced it, it is also made by the one who hears it. Music, painting and sculpture are a space of questioning and meditation where the senses that we attribute to it can come and be done and be undone at any time✨
de la bombe déjà les albums sont géniaux, normal Steven est un génie, mais là en live, P..... quelle claque!
That was just fantastic
This song gets better every time I listen to it.
Awesomeness level is brutally high! Too good to handle!
I never thought anyone would be even close to filling Guthrie's shoes. Dave impressed me beyond belief. I still love Guthrie, but Dave serves the band as well. Guthrie has a grittier sound with his leads and more chime with his clean tones. It's all in the picking. Dave has a more modern sound.
I've seen Steve many times, through all of his lineup changes, and I can say that they have all impressed me. I don't know what it is, but it doesn't sound right without Marco's drumming. Gavin played on the first album and I think he would be able to give us that effect, as well.
I've never been unimpressed or upset for any of his performances. Everyone that has played in this band is a substantial musician.
For anyone who doesn't know, Steve has had Jordan Rudess, Tony Levin, Trey Gunn, Pat Mastelotto, Steve Hackett, Gavin Harrison and more on his albums.
They are good friends btw...
I hear what your saying I think Craig the current drummer does an incredible job though. I don't know who else could possibly fill Marcos or Gavin's shoes and do it so well.
I remember Guthrie being asked in an interview if he had concerns about another guitarist playing his parts in Steven Wilson's band incorrectly. He said, "no, cos it's Dave".
I actually saw Dave play with Guthrie at "music live" at the NEC in Birmingham UK over a decade ago, when Guthrie was promoting erotic cakes. Two masters who at the time were unsung. It's great to see both finally getting recognition for their amazing talent.
@@pablohanc if Steven had no concern why do you mention Guthrie?...it's Steven song...
@@davidderoux7552 I mentioned Guthrie because the person that started the thread mentioned Guthrie. Read his paragraphs and mine will make sense to you.
amazing prog !
Just got back from The Orpheum in Boston. Steve was sick and looked it but they were fantastic! Blew the roof off!
+Shelf Life Same here. Saw the first leg of the tour last year and then the Orpheum last week. Totally awesome even as his cold was coming on.
Great show!
I remember going to this show, thanks for uploading! :)
Craig, damn monster
I was also in Tilburg...what a concert!!
I don't want to miss the music from PT. Not a single day!!!!
Qué barbaridad.
Mr. Kilminster rules.
Great stuff. Met DK when he was with Qango, really nice guy, and what a guitar player. He's got it all, technique, feel, tone, outstanding player.
Was für ein Spektakel!
And the bastard is a genius at remastering. gotta love steven wilson
Reason never seems to come to guilty men
Things that meant so much mean nothing in the end
That function is dysfunction and to hide the truth
Distracted by their faith, ignoring every proof
A bicycle
A garden wall
A mother's call
A love is born
And after all, the sleet that falls on me
In this city there are these who'd live alone
Twilight brings them from the gloom into our homes
And hiding there among the wreckage left behind
They see things that aren't there when they close their eyes
Come back if you want to
And remember who you are
'Cause there's nothing here for you my dear
And everything must pass
When the world doesn't want you
It will never tell you why
You can shut the door but you can't ignore
The crawl of your decline
You can try if you want to
You can try
Come, child
Go back if you want to
😢😭❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ Majestic!!!!
I love it!!
Damn bro, the depth of the lyrics the song structure, the notes played....perfection
And me at Manchester Apollo..awesome gig
+andy owen I was there as well Andy, incredible!! My wife who has never seen him was blown away, in tears. What a talent!!!
+Dave Night +andy owen same! watching him live his a completely different experience!
King Crimson Red vibes are so present in this track! and this doesn't undermine the magnificence of this wonder!
Absolutely! Reminds me of Starless quite a bit.
I can’t help but agree with!
thumbs up, for the guitar.
Musicianship on a higher level really!!
Brilliant
truly epic
heard him friday 5 feb. 2016 in kopenhagen fantastic
I am trying not to cry.
A god
You are sexy
Sumptuously!!
God!
From 9:34 , it reminds me the band “Magma”.
Yep; Steven Wilson was definitely sick on this tour. Can hear the cold in his voice. But kudos to him for doing the shows anyways.
This video is from June 13th, 2015, not from the recent leg of the tour.
The next show was in New York, and he had totally lost his voice. Luckily for us, Ninet was there, and sang seven or eight songs. Even David sang a couple. As Steven growled, a most memorable night.
ommggg goosebumps every fucking time!
Damn, no one can play that solo like guthrie.
+Spandan Madan Couldn't agree more!
exactly the thing running through my mind during that solo
Dadle una silla y un estudio de grabación, y no solo lo mejorará, sería un grandísimo solo. Mirad el solo de guitarra que hace Guthrie en esta misma canción en directo, año 2013, y no es ni parecido al de la grabación original.
Kilminster is a better guitarist, in my opinion.
Regret #9 is the finest guitar solo I have ever seen live..... including Hackett, Gilmore etc etc.....
esta canción no existía el 2013 . ..
Aplaus 👏
min 6:39 It sounds like the intro of ¨Anathema- Closer¨.
Andrea Flores exactly!!!
Amen
I loved the solo but it didn’t create the same tension and release as I hoped it would. It’s a great solo and Dave is a great player. He can improvise well, but if I were to rehearse or practice the solo for the song with my own improve I would practice how to build tension and release because it matches the same energy as the chord progression for that solo. That’s what makes that solo so great! Same example is Petrucci’s Best of times solo. Tension and release! Build up and match the same energy as the progression. And resolve gracefully.
Accurate thought!.......
Dave!!!
7:58
The middle section ends up sounding like gentle giant
hearing a big King Crimson influence here , simply amazing to hear this at 66 without the 'erb
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I hear all the prog greats in SW’s music. This one sounds like ELP’s Knife’s Edge to me
Guthrie is a technical behemoth, but I don't know... I just feel like Dave fits better in the band and specially on Steven's musical offering. He sounds more vintage, more 70's.
Completely agree!
I can't speak for the recordings but as a live guitarist , i do feel he fits in better as GG's solo's live are completely different from the studio versions and don't completely fit in.
I agree that Dave does sound vintage, but I also think that despite Guthrie being a technical genius, he is still capable of adapting into any type of style. Drive Home is a great example.
All Hail to GOD !
Could you imagine Jon Theodore playing with Steven wilson?
Hoy eso pensé ! Pero no sé puede todo en esta vida jajaja, sarcasmo mexicano, saludos !
who is the guitarist?
harry dsouza it is Dave Kilminster, he is a Beast, he has toured with Roger Waters in his most recent tours too, you should check it out
Those who disliked, kudos for you having hearing problems..
6:51 Nice fucking job, editor. Bet that cut pissed off a lot of people for one specific reason.
Faultless
This Tom Anderson guitar sounds so good! Also when I heard the band live in Sofia, Bulgaria. Definitely preferred it over Kilminster's Les Paul. I know, it's a matter of taste and the choice of guitar depends on the particular song.
what guitar is Dave playing with the p90s
+Andii Rejino He did a live rig video with That Pedal Show. It's on youtube, you'll probably find out there.
+Andii Rejino It´s a Tom Anderson guitar.
progrocking the progRockers.
Very Mahavishnu Orchestra in that end section there...
Guthrie is one! This is ok, bu Guthrie is Guthrie! He is just fenomenal artist and guitar player, he is beyond everything!
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Difference between him and marco is that marco wouldnt even break a sweat.. difference between me and craig is that i wouldn't even try hahaah. respect
Hi antoine, your opinion, but too many people think they know it all but they know s**t all.
I hear a little Mahavishnu Orchestra and a little Van der Graaf Generator here.
Awesome intro solo part bt you ruined it's ending in original track also ,Steven plzzz remake this awesome track with beautiful ending
Damn I miss Guthrie on that solo!
Dave does an awesome job though
@@flintandsteel1743 Nah it sucks
REALLY? Advertisement in the solo??!?!
Whoa, for a moment I thought I saw John Frusciante. Imagine that dream team
Nicht von dieser Welt!!!
Not even close to the real thing without Guthrie Govan and Marco Minneman!
Still amazing though, just cuz Steven Wilson.
You must be a fckn great musical expert to make such a judgement
+gwrful Well, I kinda am. Especially Marco's drumming is so superior.
Care explaining in musical terms why the solo was not as good as Guthrie's??
Totally agree!
Ishan Dave phrasing
Minnemann and Guthrie are greatly missed....
+Tasos Trellopoulos by you, perhaps. Pity.
***** don't get me wrong! Dave is amazing and I really,really like his work but Guthrie's solos in ancestral and routine are out of this planet!!!
+Tasos Trellopoulos I did get you wrong, so my apologies. Was an overreaction, given my having seen so damn many tired and ridiculous complaints about "fuck, those new guys aren't Marco and Guthrie"... which is literally true, obviously, but IMO it's irrelevant hero worship. Craig and Dave are great players, and simply bring something DIFFERENT to Steven's music.
That being said - yes, I agree Guthrie's solos are nothing short of amazing. I've watched the video (repeatedly, 'cause I can't get enough) of him studio-recording the solo in Regret #9, and it's mindblowing! Should note, though, that he always improvises those solos, as does Dave... so kudos to both for walking that tightrope, and always killing it. :)
5:57 damn he cant even play the simple arpeggio
just doesn’t sound as great without Guthrie
Grat show... but nobody plays better this solo than Guthrie Govan. Good but not brilliant.
I don’t think that that effort was successful.
no govan solo. no like. its as simple as that.