Land Rover fixed quicker than a Toyota? - Wheel bearing Discovery 3 / LR3

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  • Опубликовано: 18 ноя 2024

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  • @wammdriver
    @wammdriver 3 года назад +31

    Christian, you really should use a foam mat, old cushion, old pillow or some cardboard when working on your knees. I need two new knees aged 51 because I spent so long doing the same. Look after your knees.

    • @campingbegins
      @campingbegins 2 года назад +2

      Haahahaha I was thinking exactly the same!

    • @AJ-yw5zy
      @AJ-yw5zy 2 года назад

      100% agree with you on that one.

  • @Flyboy1066
    @Flyboy1066 3 года назад +21

    Christian and Vera fantastic entertainment as usual, 😃🇬🇧

  • @Skagitrover
    @Skagitrover 2 года назад +14

    Vera calling the LR4 a mall crawler is fantastic! You should put a Toyota sticker on it! Thanks for the fun.
    Bob & Jill

  • @burgerbirger2221
    @burgerbirger2221 3 года назад +9

    You get so much more with LR, not just a vehicle but a hobby also.

  • @arekguinness2342
    @arekguinness2342 3 года назад +6

    As soon as I see that your new movie is already available, I immediately have a smile on my face 🙂

  • @stanleyharrris7671
    @stanleyharrris7671 3 года назад +20

    This video had me laughing the whole time. I have suffered the same spousal persuasion; once to replace a hub, before I went to work(because the part arrived so it had to be fixed), and once because my wife backed out of the garage and decided the brakes sounded funny(that was on my lunch break).
    I don't know what the hub answer is. I have replaced them multiple times on my LR3, and RRS, not the RR. I have bought Timken's, SKF's, and they still seem to fail. The last time I replaced them on my RRS I purchased the whole front spindles with the hub on EBAY for less than the new Timkens cost, used only the hub, and they have been going strong for some time now.
    Just a story regarding the Toyota/Land Rover battle. I had always owned Toyota's, 3 4 runners, and 2 Land Cruisers. Yes, they were very reliable; however, my last LandCruiser lit on fire late one night in the grocery store parking lot. I was working late on a project at work, and It was well after 12 AM, and I decided to grab milk for the kid's breakfast then instead of waiting until the morning. Thank God because otherwise, the car would have been in the garage and probably burnt the house down. Imagine leaving the grocery to see a fire truck and a bunch of firemen putting the fire out in your car. Turns out it was the window switch that started it. Toyota took care of everything and gave me a loaner for 4 months. They replaced the entire interior and zillion other parts, and the car was like brand new when I got it back. I bought a used P38 during the period they were fixing it, and have been driving LR's ever since. All that to say at least none of my LRs ever lit on fire, and that seems like a huge reliability issue to me!

    • @Vera_and_Christian
      @Vera_and_Christian  2 года назад

      😳😮OMG What a story, sorry that I just answered now, but we have been so busy working on that engine that I had to put answering comments on hold for a couple of days. One day, we'll get a Toyota and take it apart, and compare them down to which kind of spanner you have to use. 😅👍That would actually be fun content.🙋‍♀️Vera

  • @jgrant1162
    @jgrant1162 2 года назад +4

    Always tricky when you are working against the clock.... It is very easy to make a mistake. I was very impressed that you took the time to do a final safety check, to make sure all was well. I look forward to your videos. Christian, you and Vera make a very effective team, and one essential for a strong partnership, neither of you lose your sense of humour! Keep the videos coming!

  • @albertdesalvo7273
    @albertdesalvo7273 2 года назад +2

    3:46 a Stahlwille toolset! Very high-quality tools, and still made in Germany!

    • @advantagemarine7305
      @advantagemarine7305 2 месяца назад

      I also have a stahlwille socket set, absolutely top quality, I’ve even used the sockets on an impact gun a few times!

  • @willwonka1325
    @willwonka1325 3 года назад +1

    I could literally watch your videos ALL DAY - I’ve got Xmas decorations to put up 😳🙄

  • @simon-mouse8739
    @simon-mouse8739 2 года назад +2

    My Toyota is 20 years old and 300,000 miles on the clock. As soon as the original wheel bearing fails, I let you know how long it takes to change it 🤣🤣🤣only joking. I am a LR owner and it's good to see this video. Watching Vera at the end looking like Santa's little helper was very funny as was Christian saying that Vera doesn't like it when he stands in front of her holding stuff 😉 keep up the great work and looking forward to the next video already. Stay safe 😁👍

  • @jamesb8467
    @jamesb8467 2 года назад +10

    On my Land Cr...whatever it’s called. I replaced both inner/outer bearings, but it was time to service the front axle from hub to hub, so it took a few days with basic tools. I went back with Koyo bearings since the Koyos I had on had more mileage than I could remember.
    Awesome video as always. You guys are great! I hope the trip in the snowstorm is the next video.

    • @einfelder8262
      @einfelder8262 2 года назад +2

      Solid front axle means you have tapered roller bearings, inner and outer. They take much longer to service than this LR job, which was technically a hub replacement, not a bearing replacement.

    • @jamesb8467
      @jamesb8467 2 года назад +1

      @@einfelder8262 Correct. Replaced all the seals, cleaned out the old grease, new differential oil, new pads/rotors, and ended up changing out the speed sensor harness. Needless to say I had to phone a friend for help on that one.

    • @Tonigr
      @Tonigr 2 года назад

      @@einfelder8262 These hub module type is also common on solid axle Jeeps. Changed them on my Grand Cherokee WJ last year and it is as quick as shown here. Something must be better on other brands than Toyota. (But i have more trust in my Toyota bearings ^^ )

  • @Landybandy1
    @Landybandy1 2 года назад

    In work watching this on my lunch break 😂 I still have time for another brew. Thanks guys for the Sunday entertainment.

  • @richardguse3410
    @richardguse3410 2 года назад +1

    Always entertaining! This Fall I insisted my wife help with our winter tire change on our XC70. Just explaining torquing the wheels was...an effort.

    • @Vera_and_Christian
      @Vera_and_Christian  2 года назад

      😅👍I feel for her. It took me forever. 🙋‍♀Vera

  • @grahameroberts8109
    @grahameroberts8109 2 года назад +6

    Great work once again. I was really impressed with the spare parts boxes and accessories to effect repairs in an emergency. All of that was surpassed by Vera releasing the tension on the torsion tool before returning it to storage! We need to multi-clone you Vera. Wonderful entertainment and education at the same time. Cheers from sunny Oz. 👍🏻🙏🏽🦘

  • @NEOSHOOTMMA
    @NEOSHOOTMMA Год назад

    Just done both sides on my drive in the rain and can confirm it is by far the easiest repair I have done on my discovery 3 (not lr3 I'm in the UK 😅)
    Now for the diff oil change 🙄
    Thanks for the video it really helped

  • @grahamlewis3387
    @grahamlewis3387 2 года назад

    What a great landrover discovery pit stop! I think landrover should offer you and Vera a regular TV show something like wheeler dealers!!! But all about landrover.thanks😄😄🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

  • @georgecaspira
    @georgecaspira 2 года назад

    I enjoy watching both of you, such a loving and fun couple. Thanks also for sharing your son with us a little bit. Much respect from England.

  • @rrshse6704
    @rrshse6704 2 года назад

    Never a boring day in a Land Rover owner's life. ;)

  • @Chris-uu3cp
    @Chris-uu3cp 3 года назад +4

    Great video, thanks for sharing!! You two really make the day better!

  • @victorbest5541
    @victorbest5541 3 года назад +1

    Great videos, I am beggining to understand why you like Land Rovers so much........ If you bought Toyota then you wouldn't have as many opportunities to use all of your lovely toys and make such interesting videos. Really enjoy your struggles....

  • @stevennoble2763
    @stevennoble2763 3 года назад +3

    Another great video what a pit crew .

  • @johnmelling9950
    @johnmelling9950 2 года назад

    Found this channel a few days ago and now im hooked and i dont even own a LR. These two are hilarious especially the Toyota jokes.

  • @rangie944
    @rangie944 2 года назад +1

    Had a good laugh throughout this video, loved the comment from Vera re the Mall crawler. Christian a kneeling mat from your local garden center will save your knees. Who would have thought a video of a wheel bearing change would make good entertainment. Great video, thanks for posting.

  • @grl4958
    @grl4958 3 года назад +2

    Love watching your videos. Informative and funny in the right amounts.

  • @martythomas599
    @martythomas599 2 года назад

    Wait till you have to do a rear bearing. Look forward to that.
    Love your work.
    Cheers
    Marty

  • @sanderdezeeuw82
    @sanderdezeeuw82 2 года назад +2

    Wonderful again. Education and humor. Absolutely love it!

  • @monstereisa
    @monstereisa 2 года назад +1

    Hi Vera & Christian, I'm rolling on the floor with your references to Toyota, somehow always feel addressed. Yes, Australia is watching you two. Some comments from my side:
    1) O.k. up to date, I'm still on my first set of OEM front wheel bearings after 23 years and 325,000km, and they seem to be o.k.
    2) Toyotas don't need wheel spacers as they already look at least 100mm wider, in reality, LC 105 track is 1620 vs. LR3 is 1605
    3) Always use quality wheel bearings. I bought some for the front (yes I got so much challenged by you guys that I thought I just change my LC front bearings soon, I bought Koyo (that's what Toyota uses), Timken however are also good.
    4) The combination of cheap Chinese bearings, wheel spacers and German high speed Autobahn speeding may have caused their premature death. The loss of bearing grease indicates overheating.
    5) I confirm that your 37 minute time is excellent. I expect at least 2 hours per side including refurbishing the swivel hub with hub seals. But you cheated, you changed this as assembly. The Toyota has the separate bearings and pressing out and in the racers is the time consuming part, not to forget the correct fine adjustment.
    6) You actually can pack a battery driven rattle gun into your standard luggage, the Milwaukee are actually strong and lasting (did you really crack a 1/2" extension? Was that made from mild steel? :-)
    7) As always ... love your videos and wish you further fun and enjoyment ... looks pretty cold and grey in Germany. Shall I send pool photos from here? :-)
    .. Last but not least: What do you mean with lunch break? Are you still working from home (WFH)? No office attendance in good old Darmstadt, no good old Kantine?

    • @Vera_and_Christian
      @Vera_and_Christian  2 года назад +1

      Hello Alex, you are right on all points. I work from home again since about 2 weeks. No more office time this year. LR used the cartridge style on the front which is a good thing, even if they don’t last. I don’t like that the hub is bolted to the brake disk on the Toyota What Cruiser. Other than that, the design is perfect and easy. Talk to you soon. Christian

  • @powervolt748
    @powervolt748 2 года назад +1

    I recently changed both front hub assemblies on my 2007 Discovery 3 as I was upgrading the calipers to 6 pot Brembo calipers and 380mm cross drilled/grooved discs so decided it would make sense while it was stripped down. The old hubs didn't have any copper grease applied so were quite tough to remove. The bolts were pretty rusted but just wire brushed and applied lots of WD40. Then used a lump hammer to knock the hubs off.
    I researched the torque setting for the hub nut and yes Landrover stated 350Nm but apparently this was shortening the bearings life span.
    So I set mine to 230Nm as in the workshop manual.
    Maybe a combination of your spacers and the 350Nm Torque setting is causing them to self destruct prematurely!? Great video again Christian and Vera I really enjoy watching, you both make me smile 😊😊

    • @Vera_and_Christian
      @Vera_and_Christian  2 года назад

      We always use 230 Nm, I just wrote down the Land Rover spec because I read it somewhere. I am not sure if we would be able to release a 350Nm torqued bolt on the trail. Our Disco 3 has been eaten up wheel hubs for 6 years, we only had the wheel spacers for 6 months. 🙋‍♀Vera

  • @graemevass745
    @graemevass745 2 года назад +3

    We all love LR time on a Sunday now , I've been watching Christian and Vera for 2 years now , and can't wait for the next episode. ( i hope it's Vera's Bosch glow plugs , the one's she doesn't want lol ).
    Timken wheel bearings are supposed to be the best for Discovery's ( £140 each ) , i usually buy cheap one's for £70 for 2 , given how easy the front are to change .

    • @Vera_and_Christian
      @Vera_and_Christian  2 года назад +1

      We put the Bosch glow plugs into Fabians engine two days ago, so I'll get the Beru plugs Fabian purchased. 😃Here in Germany, you cannot buy Timken hubs at the moment, so I went for the billstein one, for around 100€ (I think,) . Christian wanted SKF. Lets see how long they last. 🙋‍♀Vera

    • @johnwillett4086
      @johnwillett4086 2 года назад +1

      @@Vera_and_Christian No no no - those Beru ones go in the bin and you get genuine LR glow plugs. According to Christian's test the Beru ones are worse than useless!

    • @graemevass745
      @graemevass745 2 года назад

      @@johnwillett4086 Beru are the Original glow plugs that Land Rover fit as standard, as stated in the manual.

    • @graemevass745
      @graemevass745 2 года назад

      @@Vera_and_Christian I think Bosch glow plugs are better value for money and work just as good , i bought a set of 6 Bosch Duraterm on ebay this week for £45 .
      Skf are a decent brand Vera , didn't Christian fit one before to your Disco 3 ?? .... i heard Optimal bearings come with a 4 year guarantee from AUTODOC and are around £90 , alot of guy's on Disco3 UK buy the optimal ones .
      See you next Sunday, Vera & Christian 🔧🔩😁

    • @Vera_and_Christian
      @Vera_and_Christian  2 года назад +1

      @@johnwillett4086 We did not test the Beru plugs, we only compared OEM, Bosch and Stark. And according to the comments to that video, Beru are OEM 🤔🙋‍♀Vera

  • @petermenzies1714
    @petermenzies1714 2 года назад

    Good to see how relatively simple & quick it is to do for DIY guy and more affordable using decent quality parts. I was quite scared of owning a D3 before watching your videos with all the scary stories out there, quite happy with DIY mechanics and a D3 is now my vehicle, thanks to you guys!

    • @Vera_and_Christian
      @Vera_and_Christian  2 года назад

      😃👍That is realy cool. Your going to love your Disco. 🙋‍♀️Vera

  • @toddhoffmaster6057
    @toddhoffmaster6057 3 года назад

    I really enjoy waking up on Sunday mornings just to watch your videos. I did not know that winter tires were such an important thing in Germany. Poor mall crawler gets no respect. 😁😁

  • @fredbrackely
    @fredbrackely 2 года назад

    Ooh I like those storage bags with the windows, so you can see what's in them.

  • @AJ-yw5zy
    @AJ-yw5zy 2 года назад

    Great video again, not sure about a Toyota, but so much quicker than my D1, no adjusting the end float, no repacking the bearings with grease, no new seals, if the stub axle seal is not good, that also leaks. So this hub is a breath of fresh air!

    • @marklong2248
      @marklong2248 2 года назад +1

      Yes but if you do the D1 well, they last for years(Ever?). Sounds like the L319s are a bit too regular!

    • @AJ-yw5zy
      @AJ-yw5zy 2 года назад

      @@marklong2248 100%, check the adjustment just before the test, so far no issues, hopefully, well it’ is a LR😂

  • @bobevansIW
    @bobevansIW 2 года назад +2

    Well done you two! Great video and the bearing was done in an exceptional time! The copper grease obviously helped, it took me a couple of hours to do the first bearing on my LR4, my arm and my hammer had a good work out that day!! You are very lucky to have Vera help tidy up afterwards, I had to clear up myself! The Xmas decoration really brightens up the workshop by the way ;-) Looking forward to next week, take care

  • @jamiepome
    @jamiepome 3 года назад +1

    I have to do this to LRMUD soon, thank you for the video!

  • @DavidMSA
    @DavidMSA 2 года назад

    Very nice and very fast. I've recently changed a wheelbearing on my range rover l322 and it took like 37 hours rather than 37 minutes because you have to build out the knuckle and then remove the dustshield around the wheel hub, the dustshield around the brake disc and than pressing out the bearing with the press in the workshop and put everything back together. I think i'm gonna buy a Discovery next time now I saw your video. Best Regards, David

  • @NathanNostaw
    @NathanNostaw 2 года назад

    Discovery Pit Crew. :) Nice work.
    Reminds me to buy more spare parts for emergencies.

  • @peterguttormsen3895
    @peterguttormsen3895 3 года назад +9

    I agree that the spacer will put additional stress on the bearing and i might last longer way without it, I would never run any spacers on my vehicles .

    • @kevinbarry71
      @kevinbarry71 3 года назад +5

      Land Rovers have enough trouble working when they are stock

    • @Landybandy1
      @Landybandy1 2 года назад +1

      Had my discovery for 9 years now. Had my spacers on for about 5 of them. I can honestly say I have not needed to change them more often with my spacers fitted than without. X

    • @peterguttormsen3895
      @peterguttormsen3895 2 года назад +1

      @@Landybandy1 I´m just saying it´s a fact that a spacer will change the ET, and this will without doubt put additional stress and load on the bearing, this happens because the load has been moved outwards and is not in center of the bearing anymore. Eventually this will cause the bearing to fail sooner.

    • @Landybandy1
      @Landybandy1 2 года назад +1

      @@peterguttormsen3895 yes I agree nobody can deny the laws of physics, I meant no offense. I was merely just saying my own experience with spacers. As Christian said they just look too darn good. It’s a trade off I am actually happy to have. It’s marginal time in changing them.

    • @peterguttormsen3895
      @peterguttormsen3895 2 года назад +1

      @@Landybandy1 I know :) Yes looks of your rig is important, and as long as your know the consequences all is good.

  • @johnmorgan5377
    @johnmorgan5377 2 года назад

    Brilliant guys best wishes phill &christine from England

  • @LinearElasticity
    @LinearElasticity 2 года назад

    Go Vera! The real MVP 👩‍🔧 Keep up the great work guys!

  • @vaughanwarburton9623
    @vaughanwarburton9623 2 года назад

    I drive a 1971 land rover and a 2003 Toyota (not at the same time ) ha ha -but a quick job on the the Toyota can result in a snapped bolt but on the land rover the bolts not for moving . GREAT VIDEO cruise COOL GUYS 👍

  • @__FJ__
    @__FJ__ 2 года назад

    Another great video that brought a smile to my face! I completely missed the chapter 11 reference but that's definitely funny. The crack in the front strut would scare me. 😳 I love that you did this in-between video. And definitely show the end result of the fence your son is making.

    • @Vera_and_Christian
      @Vera_and_Christian  2 года назад +1

      That crack has been there forever 😅👍 He hasn't even ordered a new shock yet. Yes for sure, the fence is almost done. 🙋‍♀️Vera

  • @pavolklepac935
    @pavolklepac935 2 года назад +1

    very enjoyable... when I do work on my Toyota LC 120 it takes probably the same time 🤪 but I would need similar helper as you have... the most of time I spend by standing up and getting tools I forgot to prepare in advance...🤦‍♂️ I am looking forward to seing your engine job... after seeing what you are doing I am not affraid anymore if my reliable 😜 Yota engine will brake... even I did similar job 30 years ago on my Fiat Ritmo...

  • @tam1381
    @tam1381 Год назад +1

    My Toyota never needs wheel bearings !!!!

  • @mikithocharous3584
    @mikithocharous3584 2 года назад

    I would love to see the master and his helper work on a TOYOTA love your videos!

    • @Vera_and_Christian
      @Vera_and_Christian  2 года назад +1

      😅maybe we‘ll get one. We are locking for a Projekt car. 🙋‍♀️Vera

  • @ThatCivilGuy
    @ThatCivilGuy 2 года назад

    Oh this hits close to home. Today I found the cheap wheel bearing I installed on our XC90 failed after only 5k miles. I don’t think I can do it quite as quickly, but I did use copper grease last time so there is hope!

  • @ingram0774
    @ingram0774 2 года назад

    Great minds think alike. I always pull caliper and bracket together on these types of assemblies. Have been doing it that way for a while and not sure why others don’t.

  • @freespeech2261
    @freespeech2261 2 года назад

    Another new wheel bearing for Vera. Oh my God, : )

  • @StephenPieri
    @StephenPieri 2 года назад

    Yep could see the cracks from Sydney 🇦🇺. I laughed when Christian you checked your own pulse…😂

  • @robpeabo509
    @robpeabo509 3 года назад +1

    That is very quick. I imagine you would allow no less than 1.5 hours a side at a mechanics shop if they were quoting labour costs. They have to take into account seized bolts and other issues that are inherent on particular vehicles. Actual time in reality would be around 45 minutes a side; bearing in mind their tools are already accessible, as well as battery or air tools as well as their knowledge as far as the works goes.

  • @marcverkooijen2621
    @marcverkooijen2621 2 года назад

    Christian,
    You should remember the old saying : "We are not rich enough to buy cheaply"

  • @d.h.h.2436
    @d.h.h.2436 2 года назад

    I'm afraid that I was right several months ago, when I warned you about this spacers. They are not only needless, but they are harmful. Also i have to say that I have replaced a broken wheel bearing only once for more of 300tkm with my 4 Discoverys in last 23 years. Otherwise - very good job! 37 minutes for fixing this on the yard is like about of rally team work 😄

    • @Vera_and_Christian
      @Vera_and_Christian  2 года назад +2

      We are definitely keeping them on. Our Disco has been eaten up many wheel hubs for six years now. 🙋‍♀Vera

  • @TheDaf95xf
    @TheDaf95xf 2 года назад

    What a fantastic video full of humour again 😂👍🏻🇬🇧

  • @johnbouttell5827
    @johnbouttell5827 3 года назад +1

    Dear Vera & Christian, I'm reminded of Laurel & Hardy: another fine mess! Just kidding. Best wishes, John in the UK.

  • @PillSharks
    @PillSharks 2 года назад

    Really enjoying these videos… regarding Land Rover wheel bearings (not the good of Defender type) I don’t think they are so bad.
    Our 20 year old discovery 2 with 185,000 miles which we’ve owned from new has never had a wheel bearing replaced…all still the originals believe it or not.
    My father has the discovery 4 which has nearly 90,000 miles and all the wheel bearing are originals also.

  • @seanhammon6639
    @seanhammon6639 3 года назад +1

    YAY its Landrover Time!

  • @Isaa5500
    @Isaa5500 2 года назад

    Always a pleasure to watch your videos ❤️

  • @alanm.4298
    @alanm.4298 2 года назад

    My Discovery is older than yours... 1997. It uses a different type of wheel bearings... 8 individual sets of them (barring and race), in fact. Two per wheel. Takes longer to replace them, but they don't need replacement very often. I just replaced them all at 105,000 miles as preventative maintenance, not because of any problem. The old ones were still quiet and didn't have any play, but the service manual recommends replacement at 100K miles.
    The interesting thing was the prices. LR specialists wanted between $35 and $45 US apiece! (X8! Ouch!) Dealer wanted even more for "OEM" (which are Timken).
    After a bit of poking around online I found the exact same bearimgs sets for $7 each! They were Timken, too. It's actually a very common bearing set used in the old Rovers.

    • @Vera_and_Christian
      @Vera_and_Christian  2 года назад

      You probably have a Disco 1, cool. We also go by recommended replacement intervals for any parts on our Land Rovers, alwas. It is the right thing to do. With all the problems a Disco 3 has, we are kind of glad that at least the wheelbearing is an easy, affordable job. 😃👍🙋‍♀️Vera

  • @struanrobertson3417
    @struanrobertson3417 2 года назад

    I smile every video 😊🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @Shanes_Shed
    @Shanes_Shed 2 года назад

    I always pull off my brake calipers like that. Plus that's way quicker than wheel bearings on my previous 80 series landcruiser.

  • @garyt.5219
    @garyt.5219 3 года назад +5

    It takes LR UK a day……and they have a lunch break!!! 😂

  • @eddieMurphy11111
    @eddieMurphy11111 2 года назад

    i learned in the 1960s about spacers ruining wheel bearings so have never used them since thanks for the video i agree with Black Friday yes all the deals are fake

  • @andreas-walterhofstetter8139
    @andreas-walterhofstetter8139 2 года назад

    Ok front is easy, but try to replace a rear bearing over lunch! Very entertaining Video thanks!

    • @Vera_and_Christian
      @Vera_and_Christian  2 года назад

      Yeah we know, but we'll manage when the time comes. 😃👍🙋‍♀️Vera

  • @richardsheil5289
    @richardsheil5289 3 года назад

    Christian is a lucky man. But he knew that already.

  • @AlexStrugariu
    @AlexStrugariu 2 года назад

    Nice one! The Toyota wheel bearings do not last more than LRs do. Good thing going with Timken. My front Timken replacement is now 115k km old and going strong. Cheers!

    • @shaunbava1801
      @shaunbava1801 2 года назад

      +1 on the Timken's, those are the oe on the 3. I put Chinese on mine, I had one Chinese bearing fail at 30k miles, I spent the extra to get the OE, which came in an LR box and said timken made in USA. If you buy the good ones they usually last 50k-75k miles.

    • @Vera_and_Christian
      @Vera_and_Christian  2 года назад +1

      Timken hubs were not available here in Germany when we ordered a new one. So I had Christian order a Billstein hub which I will now carry around in my car. 😃👍🙋‍♀️ Vera

    • @AlexStrugariu
      @AlexStrugariu 2 года назад

      @@Vera_and_Christian If you need to change your front air struts, I think the best deal on OEM (Delphi - BWI) is on Island 4x4 UK. Take care!

    • @Vera_and_Christian
      @Vera_and_Christian  2 года назад +2

      @@AlexStrugariu We will not order anything out of the UK again if I don'T absolutely have to. We pay so much import taxes that OEM parts from our Land Rover dealer are now cheaper than getting parts out of the UK. That is really unfortunate, because we liked ordering from certain shops in the UK. And then, if we have to return something, that nightmare goes on. 🙋‍♀Vera

  • @IowaLR4
    @IowaLR4 2 года назад

    I bought a couple Timken wheel bearings years ago as spares for my Discovery 4, but I haven't used them. Still originals after 86k miles and they are still in great shape. I would never run spacers though, just the compomotive wheels with ET44 offset.

    • @Vera_and_Christian
      @Vera_and_Christian  2 года назад +1

      That is great. I do believe it is just the weak point of my Discovery 3, even before spacers we had more than our fair share of wheel bearing failures. It's an easy fix. Just wish we could buy Timken bearings here in Germany. With brexit, I will not order anything in the UK or the US. We pay just too many import taxes. We paid hundreds of Euros for Fabians Engine rebuild.😃👍🙋‍♀️Vera

  • @sjeeke4671
    @sjeeke4671 3 года назад +3

    Hey Vera, My wife ask where you got the bags underneath the back seat, where you keep the copper grease etc.

    • @robpeabo509
      @robpeabo509 3 года назад +2

      Vera made them. I recall one of the videos of the LR3 being repaired where I think at the end of the video Vera showed us some of the bags she had made. I can't recall which video or what they were repairing on Vera's LR3. I am certain it was a 2021 video.

    • @Vera_and_Christian
      @Vera_and_Christian  2 года назад +4

      I will sew a new one for my new hub, then I'll make a video about my bags and spare parts. 😃👍🙋‍♀️Vera

    • @robpeabo509
      @robpeabo509 2 года назад

      @@Vera_and_Christian That will be great Vera. I am getting a sewing machine and overlocker I will make some of my own (I hope!)

  • @advantagemarine7305
    @advantagemarine7305 2 месяца назад

    Well I learnt something new today, not how to change a wheel bearing, I’ve already done that. But that I have storage under my rear seats! 😂

  • @romantkachuk168
    @romantkachuk168 2 года назад +1

    Great video as always 😎. Could you guys make a video on those unofficial jacking points? I have a similar 3.5 tons jack, but don’t really see how to jack up a full front or back of the truck. Thanks 🙏

    • @shaunbava1801
      @shaunbava1801 2 года назад +2

      It's not unofficial it's right in the LR service manual, there is a crossmember in the front and back you can jack from those points. Look at the discovery 3 workshop manual 100-02 Jacking lifting. Tjhey indicate there points on each side and the front/rear crossmembers. The front is right on the recess in the skid plate, if you remove it you jack on the cross member. The rear is right in front of the spare.

    • @Vera_and_Christian
      @Vera_and_Christian  2 года назад +2

      The crossmember in the back is really high and you need a large jack. I mount a spacer with a M16 treaded rod to it. There is a hole for it. Christian 👍

    • @romantkachuk168
      @romantkachuk168 2 года назад

      @@Vera_and_Christian thanks! On some videos it looked like the truck was jacked under the read diff. Thankfully, my limited knowledge didn't allow me to do that 😂

    • @romantkachuk168
      @romantkachuk168 2 года назад

      ​@@shaunbava1801 it is not metioned in user manul, thanks! Seems like jacking from the sides is less fuss

  • @leeloo21231234
    @leeloo21231234 2 года назад

    All the wheel bearings on my LC 120 were replaced at around 100 k km. Stock wheel sizes and no spacers. Front ones the operation is similar to LR, more difficult in the back.
    To keep you up to date on my LR 4 - it is out of the shop, a german LR specialist from Neustadt. 5300 euros .. did about 600 km with it.. :)
    The timing and fuel pump belts replaced, water pump as well ( I read is not mandatory to do it with the timing belt but they insisted on it ) all glow plugs, oil and oil filter for the automatic gearbox and the fixed an oil leak coming from the valve axe. Of course they took off the body, to check for the oil leak. Now, one would think that if they take off the body, they will decrease the work invoiced for the timing belt for example, since it is much easier to do once the body is off.. but no.
    Other LR Specialists, about same distance from me, in Belgium, quoted me at maximum 3 k but they were full booked until February next year. So this guy had my balls in a vice and he enjoyed it.. I hope he chocks on it...
    At least now the car now seems to run fine and I can use it for the winter holiday, will be a long one, about 5000 km round trip

    • @Vera_and_Christian
      @Vera_and_Christian  2 года назад +1

      This was a unnecessary body-off. Rear timing belt is 4h if done before. Water pump is 12 minutes plus water draining. The belt kit is 80 Euro and the pump is 37 Euro. Where was the oil leak? There is a typo above. Sorry for the 5k. This sucks. Christian

    • @leeloo21231234
      @leeloo21231234 2 года назад

      @@Vera_and_Christian Initially the body off was not scheduled. They told me they have to take the body off to locate the oil leak. The oil leak, I was told it was from a semi ring at the camshaft axle, somewhere in the back.
      To take the body off they invoiced 12 h + the full hours for the fuel pump belt and same for the timing belt. One would think since they invoiced 12 h for the body off, the fuel pump belt will take like 10 min because the body is off already, so at least that one should disappear. Not the case. So 12 h for the body off + 4 h for the fuel pump belt and so on...
      The guy was a bloody thief and I will never go there again. Unfortunately I have a small garage, and only basic skills. I can do some small repairs like replacing the disc brakes, and some other small stuff, I am pretty good with electrics, but for major stuff I have to go to the shop. I can afford it, but I hate being ripped off. :(
      Again, great stuff with the channel, you guys are a great team, full of good info and humor as well.. :)

  • @alanm.4298
    @alanm.4298 2 года назад

    By the way, you may be over-torquing various bolts because of the grease you're putting on them. Torque specifications are for "dry" nut and bolt threads. Once you lube them with any form of grease you may end up over- doing the tightening.
    Actually I do the same with many nuts and bolts: put some sort of anti-sieze on the threads to make them easier to remove the next time.

    • @Vera_and_Christian
      @Vera_and_Christian  2 года назад

      I did not put copper grease on the critical bolts. I do use it wherever I can on chassis and suspension bolts. Overall it’s less stress on the bolts if torqued properly but must be used with care and on certain threads it’s a no go. Like roadwheel nuts or the axle shaft nut. Christian

  • @tonyallen1953
    @tonyallen1953 2 года назад

    You were right Christian im on holiday in Australia and yes I could see the crack 😂

  • @tuopeeks
    @tuopeeks 2 года назад

    This is one of few nice jobs on the Discovery, Just as well they goes through more wheel bearings, at the front, than tyres. Shame so metal goes into scrap compared to the taper roller bearing used on old LRs.

    • @Vera_and_Christian
      @Vera_and_Christian  2 года назад +2

      Actually, we reuse old hubs, they definitely do not go to the scrap yard.. One was used for our spare wheel carrier we built last year. 👍😃🙋‍♀Vera

  • @dustcommander100
    @dustcommander100 2 года назад

    Another enjoyable video - I thought more disassembly would be required. Mine were never in an assembly including the housing and the hub. In fact, I had a Honda once that required pressing the hub out of the bearing to remove the rotor, as the rotor was fastened to the rear of the hub! I assume the spacers are necessary so the rims clear the brake calipers? The wheel bearings are at a disadvantage, as they are very close to each other on the hub (or even in the same bearing outer race. As the wheel moves outward (thicker spacers), it has greater angular force and the loading on the bearings are increased.

    • @Vera_and_Christian
      @Vera_and_Christian  2 года назад

      The rear bearings have to be pressed. So we will be getting a press just in case, soon. 🙋‍♀Vera

  • @WaldosWorld
    @WaldosWorld 2 года назад

    Now I'm tempted to change my wheel bearing to see how fast I can do it. Just for the sake of a little friendly competition 😉

    • @Vera_and_Christian
      @Vera_and_Christian  2 года назад +1

      I have changed many of them which gives me an advantage. Also, the original bearings are stuck badly. Thanks Waldo. Christian

  • @gregdyar6451
    @gregdyar6451 2 года назад

    Why did you put on wheel spacers?.. great video

    • @Vera_and_Christian
      @Vera_and_Christian  2 года назад

      It drives more stable with the roof tent on. Much nicer handling, even better than our LR4 which has 19“ wheels on. High speed handling is better too.

  • @johnlegros1586
    @johnlegros1586 3 года назад

    not sure that without Vera's squill full help you would have been on time for the meeting, maybe for the after meeting coffe break ...

  • @SCGFunktionsmodellbau
    @SCGFunktionsmodellbau 3 года назад +1

    always nice to watch, unfortunetly here is Winter so i cant do anything on my Disco except watch how it rusts. But i made a Test regarding to Altblechschraubers Video even under minus 8 °C the Oillamp is of within 2 sec, maybe thats because my Front Crankshaft seal is leaking :-)

    • @Vera_and_Christian
      @Vera_and_Christian  2 года назад

      That is a good see sign. I build a oil pump test rig and tested 3 different pumps with surprisingly different results. Will be in a video down the road. Christian

    • @SCGFunktionsmodellbau
      @SCGFunktionsmodellbau 2 года назад

      @@Vera_and_Christian My Oilpump ist changed since i had the first Timingbelt changed and the Shop refused to guarante me that the Tensioner wont snap of in the Future.

    • @Vera_and_Christian
      @Vera_and_Christian  2 года назад

      @@SCGFunktionsmodellbau 👍We changed the oilpump during the first two weeks after we bought our Disco 3 in 2016🙋‍♀Vera

  • @jonathancooke542
    @jonathancooke542 Год назад

    Instead of the torque wrench have you considered one of the digital torque adaptors. A lot smaller to pack away and can do a wide range of torque settings.

    • @Vera_and_Christian
      @Vera_and_Christian  Год назад +1

      Next time we get a bigger donation, we'll get a new torque wrench. Until then, we use what we have. 😀👍🙋‍♀️Vera

  • @gregculverwell
    @gregculverwell 2 года назад

    Yes, do you have to replace wheel bearings on a Toyota?
    I replaced mine on my 96 landcruiser, only because I was installing a locking diff. After 300 000 km they looked perfect.
    The hub pivot bearings (sorry I don't know the proper name) however were not looking good.
    I could excuse that by saying that it was used to launch ski fishing boats into the surf using a front tow hitch for a large part of it's life.

  • @dougwernham5209
    @dougwernham5209 3 года назад

    Excellent video thanks.

  • @pradolover
    @pradolover 2 года назад

    Looks easier than the 90 series Prado, though touch wood mine have lasted 391,000km so far! It's a knuckle out hydraulic press job on the 90.

    • @Vera_and_Christian
      @Vera_and_Christian  2 года назад +1

      😅👍 We can't wait for a rear bearing to fail, that will be the same kind of job. 🙋‍♀️Vera

  • @rogerpage9682
    @rogerpage9682 2 года назад

    very enjoyable video

  • @Rickwardful
    @Rickwardful 3 года назад +6

    Could it be your wheel extensions that have caused premature wheel bearing failure?

    • @martin4787
      @martin4787 3 года назад +1

      That's exactly what's causing the wheel bearings to fail prematurely.

    • @timdmx512
      @timdmx512 3 года назад +1

      @@martin4787 yeah buy they look so cool!

    • @bigfilsing
      @bigfilsing 3 года назад

      @@timdmx512 I'm surprised they are allowed in Germany ??

    • @robpeabo509
      @robpeabo509 3 года назад +1

      I was also surprised wheel spacers are not illegal in Germany, considering their strict vehicle registration rules and the TUV. Last thing you would want is a catastrophic wheel bearing failure on the Autobahn with the speeds the vehicles travel at, They are illegal in Queensland (Australia). I think they are illegal in all the other States & Territories in Australia.

    • @philhealey449
      @philhealey449 2 года назад

      There was some discussion on this issue a few weeks back.........

  • @naturemixmv7667
    @naturemixmv7667 2 года назад

    Excellent video, but MORE ROBIN PLEASE! What he's doing looks way more interesting.

    • @Vera_and_Christian
      @Vera_and_Christian  2 года назад

      He helped today to get the engine back in the car. Then we drove him down to Pirmasens. Talk to you soon. Christian

  • @andyg8651
    @andyg8651 2 года назад

    Hi Guys
    I changed both wheel bearings to Timken, Drivers side took 1Hr Tops passenger side 3Hrs.It all depends on who changed them previously
    and copper greased them prior to fitting, so hit and miss on time really how long it takes. Luv your Vids

  • @michaelashby809
    @michaelashby809 2 года назад

    Hi Christian und Vera, I replaced our wheel bearing a few months ago. Similar experience you have had, but my nut was on really tight :D :D
    Sorry if I have missed it, could you give a run down on the spare parts you have in your 'store'
    Michael aus Süd Australien

  • @WhosPhotoTube
    @WhosPhotoTube 3 года назад +3

    I replaced my front wheel bearings (3/16th") on my CUBE Reaction Hybrid Pro e-bike yesterday, I asked myself where is Vera shouting "Oh My god, Oh My god" when they fell out all over the place?

    • @Vera_and_Christian
      @Vera_and_Christian  2 года назад

      😅Replacing bearings on our mountainbike hubs is definitely way more stressful that on my Disco 3. We know all about it. 👍🙋‍♀Vera

  • @einfelder8262
    @einfelder8262 2 года назад

    Technically that was a hub replacement on a modern IFS vehicle, which is far easier than the older style of inner/outer tapered roller bearings. The tapered inner/outer method provides a much better support than the skinny item in use here. No wonder they don't last, definitely not helped with the wheel spacers - these would accelerate wear by a factor of at least 3 in this vehicle.

  • @aldoblasigh7533
    @aldoblasigh7533 2 года назад

    Hi in Zimbabwe I work on land rover every day and I call them star ship enterprise thay can go where no one has been

  • @merseybeat1963
    @merseybeat1963 2 года назад

    A friend changed one of ours (non OEM) a few years ago with hand tools and it almost fell off sometime later while we were driving which would have been disaster : (
    We just changed both our fronts as a pair as the one was shot and making a lot of noise while driving.
    We put OEM Timkin..whew what a relief that noise was driving me crazy I thought it was the rugged tires my wife had put on the car wearing un evenly but it was the front bearings.

    • @Vera_and_Christian
      @Vera_and_Christian  2 года назад

      We also use hand tools, but we do make sure that we torque every nut and bolt to the correct specs. 👍🙋‍♀️Vera

    • @merseybeat1963
      @merseybeat1963 2 года назад

      @@Vera_and_Christian oh no friend actually used "hand" hand tools to tighten it on.as in a $3 wrench. : )

  • @robpeabo509
    @robpeabo509 3 года назад

    I see the last time you replaced the hub assembly you posted it on 10 December last year. It was the front left also.

    • @Vera_and_Christian
      @Vera_and_Christian  2 года назад +1

      Should have bought a better brand. Was only 45€. Christian

    • @robpeabo509
      @robpeabo509 2 года назад

      @@Vera_and_Christian I have never replaced a hub/bearing all in one combination. All my previous vehicles had replaceable bearing. I have replaced those. I have never needed to replace a hub. I have no idea what they would cost in Australia, I have never looked. I will cross that bridge when it happens. I would be disappointed if I only got 12 months out of one, I would expect years - maybe a decade or more. with reasonable off-road driving trips/holidays. I think we are spoilt here, no salt except on the beach, no harsh winters except in the Australian Alps. Lucky us.

  • @hopperschoppers
    @hopperschoppers 2 года назад

    Do you pull the air suspension fuse/relay in the D4 the same way ? Great video

    • @__FJ__
      @__FJ__ 2 года назад

      yes, one does.

  • @deniscudahy4549
    @deniscudahy4549 2 года назад

    Great video again 👏 👍

  • @DiHandley
    @DiHandley 2 года назад

    Yes Christian, we (Australia) can see your crack from here! 😂😂🤣🤣🤣

  • @arm2644
    @arm2644 2 года назад

    Toyota Land Cruiser HZJ105 last FOREVER. 360000km and until now never changed a wheel bearing and we use it for offroad. Maybe it has to do with speeding on the Autobahn!

  • @discovery-on-the-island1079
    @discovery-on-the-island1079 2 года назад

    Thank you for the video 👏

  • @sonicpix
    @sonicpix 2 года назад

    I thought I was going to find this annoying, but the opposite. It was actually quite entertaining. But I wonder where they used the copper paste. I've used it for my lugs, but t looks like you did it for the bolts in behind?

    • @Vera_and_Christian
      @Vera_and_Christian  2 года назад

      We put copper paste on the OD of the centering hub per LR specification. We don’t put it on the studs or flange. Thanks for watching. Christian

  • @davidmscott4409
    @davidmscott4409 2 года назад

    Can you guys do a video on the LR3/LR4 locking rear diff? Can’t find a good video or repair/rebuild. Thanks!

    • @Vera_and_Christian
      @Vera_and_Christian  2 года назад +1

      Ours is non locking like most LR3s in Germany. Christian

    • @davidmscott4409
      @davidmscott4409 2 года назад

      @@Vera_and_Christian Ok, similar here in California. Will you maybe do ARB air locker front and rear?

  • @kevinbarry71
    @kevinbarry71 3 года назад +1

    Chapter 11. That's funny. American reference, means bankruptcy

    • @Vera_and_Christian
      @Vera_and_Christian  2 года назад

      You are the only commenting on that. We think it's pretty funny tooand a perfect fit. 😃👍🙋‍♀️Vera

    • @kevinbarry71
      @kevinbarry71 2 года назад

      I love your channel. Lots of people working on cars, but not too many husband and wives, and nobody with the level of sophistication that you two show. And, since you enjoy land Rovers, there will be lots of material. I do like range rovers, or at least I would if they weren't such durability disasters