Monster Hunter: Rise | Sunbreak - Evade Window VS Evade Extender!

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  • Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024

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  • @unacuentasinvideos4910
    @unacuentasinvideos4910 2 года назад +18

    Switch Axe main: both, i want both

    • @CasoresDen
      @CasoresDen  2 года назад

      🙏🙏🙏 Same, wish I could fit everything

    • @unacuentasinvideos4910
      @unacuentasinvideos4910 2 года назад +3

      @@CasoresDen that's why i always use Nargacuga set whit SA, and now the Lucent Narga whit base narga's waist, makes switch Axe so fun to play

  • @brucewalk2761
    @brucewalk2761 2 года назад +5

    Evade Extender works well with the Insect Glaive as well. It gives you extra distance when you are evading in the air, you just have to watch out if you haven't used it before and slot it in lv.3 and start a quest right away, you'll have to get used to how far just a simple evade takes you now vs. before. Great video by they way!

    • @CasoresDen
      @CasoresDen  2 года назад

      Unfortunately it works only with the evade and not the other jumps. Thanks a lot!

  • @Schoo_Schoo
    @Schoo_Schoo 11 месяцев назад +2

    Love the digimon world music in the background, I was feeling very nostalgic lol

    • @CasoresDen
      @CasoresDen  11 месяцев назад +1

      So happy to hear that for real, I love digimon old soundtracks, they are very peaceful, thanks for commenting

    • @Schoo_Schoo
      @Schoo_Schoo 11 месяцев назад

      Thank you for the quality content ☺️

  • @MrMonsterSize
    @MrMonsterSize Год назад +1

    im currently watching everything about rise that is available and i wonder how ive not found your videos earlier. Amazing content, thank you for all of that!

    • @CasoresDen
      @CasoresDen  Год назад +1

      Thanks a lot for your kind words, they really mean a lot! I don't play a lot of MH lately so my channel feels a little frozen while I'm busy irl. Thanks for the sub also!

  • @THATGUYDJ321
    @THATGUYDJ321 2 года назад +4

    Evade extender is a must for me,with the follow up attacks monsters have and the strange hit boxes.

    • @CasoresDen
      @CasoresDen  2 года назад

      I've seen a lot of people say the same. Rurican loves a minimum of evade extender 1. It's a very nice skill. I love it with Gunlance and HH the most personally

  • @JanusHoW
    @JanusHoW 2 года назад +12

    In most situations, you want Evade Extender. But if you're using Bladescale Hone, Status Trigger or Adrenaline Rush, all of which require you to dodge _through_ enemy attacks, you want Evade Window.

    • @CasoresDen
      @CasoresDen  2 года назад

      Yes that's the plan. Both can be quite fun too with SnS etc but it's too many points 😤

    • @andymoore8835
      @andymoore8835 2 года назад +1

      Evade window is also good on dual blades with the new silkbind that restores sharpness if you dodge through an attack

  • @atk_ogre2185
    @atk_ogre2185 2 года назад +3

    Extender is the better option always almost on every situation, BUT, evade window is a skill that you can build around certain sets and skills.

    • @CasoresDen
      @CasoresDen  2 года назад

      I totally agree to be honest, it all depends on people's preference also

  • @Lanzetsu
    @Lanzetsu 2 года назад +2

    I fell in love with Evade Extender, specially since I play Lance and Gunlance as well Bow, it let me move ASAP from the danger and come back or pursue the monsters, it is a game changer, to me Evade Extender at least in Lvl2. In the other hand Evade Window... sux... hahaha joking aside it is a good skill but it improves something you should be quite decent at first, and I myself sux at evading with s since 4U... so... there is a lot of skill points invested on it for something that will make less worse a mechanic I am already bad at, that is the reason I rarely even consider Evade Window.
    Edit: And yeah, thanks a lot to Yukino, his video comparison are top notch and helped me decided how to build a lot of stuff since the release, specially about Focus and Rapid Morph for ChargeBlade

    • @CasoresDen
      @CasoresDen  2 года назад +1

      I totally agree with you. Honestly I obsess over skills being maxed, so if I go for a skill I usually try to max it. I can't always do that obviously tho haha. Evade extender is amazing. I used to dodge with s a lot in mh4u as well but after that it just seems to be getting harder and harder, since monster moves have more frames to look more sleek. I sometimes roll through them on accident, I need to learn to do it a little better, might help with clutch fights. However evade window now is better than ever with Status Trigger and Adrenaline Rush, it made it quite viable not gonna lie. I run a status SwitchAxe with these two skills. I still love evade extender, but with SwitchAxe I don't need it as much since I don't wanna move far from the monster and I also run Maximum might. I mostly use the Wire Step. Nonetheless with lances and bow, Extender is 🤌🤌🤌

  • @traindawg21
    @traindawg21 Год назад +1

    Evade extender is awesome with Dual blades for me especially for monsters like Magnamalo and Zinogre that loves to run,hop and jump all over the place. I can close the gap really fast and keep up the pressure on them. Also great for getting out the way of monsters that does massive AOE attacks that can one shot you like Teostra.

    • @CasoresDen
      @CasoresDen  Год назад +1

      Yes, this was the same for me. The dual blades can use all the dash distance they can get, it is super fun and you feel like you're in Attack on Titan haha, it's important to have some disengage tools since they got no guards also

  • @NuraSoulX
    @NuraSoulX 2 года назад +1

    I got lucky a few days ago and managed to get a talisman with a lvl 3 evade window on it. I just gemmed in the extra 2 levels and slotted in a maxed extender and my dual blades have never felt better. I love both of these skills and I make sure to have them in my armor.

    • @CasoresDen
      @CasoresDen  2 года назад

      They're so fun to use especially after TU1. I don't go crazy over optimal builds anymore, I love comfort too

  • @yes78
    @yes78 2 года назад +3

    I think evade extend is great for sns too, it helps reposition since you have short reach and helps get out from under the monster

    • @CasoresDen
      @CasoresDen  2 года назад

      I don't disagree to be honest, however you have pretty good i-frames with the charged slash and quite good mobility with the slides left and right. However you can definitely use it as a defensive skill to back off for sure!

    • @michaelfernandez2432
      @michaelfernandez2432 Год назад

      Evade extend LV1 for SNS is great. It give the perfect distance to evade attacks like Seregios and doesn't put you too far so you can counter attack the monster quickly.

  • @ExRetribution
    @ExRetribution 2 года назад +3

    I play lance, gunlance and switch axe, and evade extender has become a must have on my kit ever since capcom made better hit boxes for monster attacks, and added more multi hit moves to monster attacks. On top of that, evade extender can be used both offensively and defensively, while evade window is strictly defensively since the monster will always be jumping between different players in multiplayer

    • @CasoresDen
      @CasoresDen  2 года назад

      Yeah that's quite right, especially in multilayer Evade Window feels useless. However it always depends, you can run both at times. Bladescale hone and status trigger/adrenaline rush made evade window more viable but still extender brings more to the table

  • @yourdemiseishere
    @yourdemiseishere 2 года назад +3

    Evade extender dual blades is best at level 2, with 3 i overshoot often and can be gotten with 1 level 4 slot.

    • @CasoresDen
      @CasoresDen  2 года назад

      I noticed the dash is massive with maxed out evade extender, it's just that it's hard to get used to different levels, so I try to keep my brain familiar to max extender or none at all. I will try to use 1 and 2 more often. Also true, it's great that you just slot it in a level 4 slot 👌

  • @PremMajumdarVG
    @PremMajumdarVG 2 года назад +3

    great video! got ur vid recommended since iv been playing and watching a lot of mhr SB. my question is what about using both in one set? i tried using both in a fire sns build with bladescale. went up against goss harag and the thing is even though i was able to dodge a lot his attacks some of his attacks hit 360 and those ones i wasnt able to dodge. in that situation i would like to know if its better take one out from the two or not. also earned subbed for the great vid!

    • @CasoresDen
      @CasoresDen  2 года назад

      Hi! First of all thanks a lot for the sub and your kind words, I really appreciate it. The fact is that Evade Window let's say makes you invulnerable for some time at max level. Some moves like Tigrex or Gos Harag Spins keep dealing damage throughout the entirety of the animation. So a tigrex spinning will spin for 0.5 seconds as an example, your invulnerability lasts 0.33 therefore you get hit in between the frames. The best thing is to roll away from these moves. Evade extender is your friend here. With faster moves, evade window helps a lot as you can completely roll through them, example being any projectile, like Rathalos fireball, you can eeeeaaaasily roll through it. Make sure you check out the new skils by
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      Gold Rathian and Lucent Nargacuga, since they give you buffs when you roll through attacks. Pair that with evade window and have fun.
      All in all, both skills are fun to use but physical spins like this can't be rolled towards the monster, only away from the main hitbox. I think this is the same for beams but im not sure. Don't confuse rolls with counters however. If you counter a beam or a spin with a move like hammer water strike, LS counters etc, the whole move is nullified. So if a Rajang beam is coming towards you and you counter it with a COUNTERING skill, the whole beam is nullified and you can walk through it. You can't do that with rolls though. Try to roll away if the move takes more than your 0.33 seconds of max Evade Window. Hope that helps!
      EDIT: Using both can be very fun, like I said it's always up to what you like! I love Evade Extender so much but I don't play it all the time, but I ALWAYS play it with Gunlance. Evade window I like a lot with Hunting Horn. Evade Window was a little weaker honestly but with the new skills it seems pretty good and on par with Evade Extender. Play what you like, always!

    • @PremMajumdarVG
      @PremMajumdarVG 2 года назад +1

      @@CasoresDen wow thanks for the the thorough explanation really appreciate. Looking forward to more content!

    • @CasoresDen
      @CasoresDen  2 года назад +1

      @@PremMajumdarVG haha no problem! Trying to squeeze videos every week since I work full time. Stay tuned

    • @winsonyu9637
      @winsonyu9637 2 года назад

      @@CasoresDen I remember one time I tried to counter crimson valtrax beam with shrouded vault as a DB. I managed to counter as my boy get hits in but once the counter ends there was a short delay which i could walk but valtrax wing is blocking me from going anywhere and I died from the beam a few sec later
      Does valtrax work differently or smth?

    • @CasoresDen
      @CasoresDen  2 года назад

      @@winsonyu9637 Valstrax has two animations, similar to narwa. First the beam that hits you then the leftover bombs on the floor, they explode almost simultaneously

  • @BlackBeltGamers88
    @BlackBeltGamers88 2 года назад +1

    I wonder how many people actually know what game your music for the first few minutes is from. Definitely some fond memories of my childhood playing that one. Should I say what game it's from? Or leave it rather subtle and just say File City.

    • @CasoresDen
      @CasoresDen  2 года назад

      I have mentioned it somewhere in the comments since somebody had a similar response. But you're right, not too many. This soundtrack is beautiful and so was the game. Really glad more people show love for it, you make my day

  • @leeboonkang2
    @leeboonkang2 2 года назад +2

    Problem with evade extender is it might roll you too far. Either get used to it or adjust its level to your preference. I personally prefer evade extender lvl 2. Also, removing 1 lvl from it gives me extra gem slot for other things.

    • @CasoresDen
      @CasoresDen  2 года назад +1

      Of course, this is what is good with the skill, you can just slot in as many points as you want depending on preference and playstyle. I like 3 cause it's hard for me to get used to 2 and 1. It's very true that it rolls you far tho. Its good for how definitely and I don't dislike it at all with the SwitchAxe since the overhead slash has a huge gap closer and you can follow up with a triple slash with the sword. Very good stuff.

  • @cycydaman2070
    @cycydaman2070 2 года назад +3

    evade extender vs evade window, bro easy answer: get both

    • @CasoresDen
      @CasoresDen  Год назад

      Too expensive 😭 but they make some damn nice comfort builds. Tried it with Lance and SwitchAxe, evade window maxed with 1-2 extender. Very fun to play

  • @kephalai
    @kephalai Год назад +1

    your thumbnail made me laugh XD

    • @CasoresDen
      @CasoresDen  Год назад

      Happy to hear!!! I try to be creative with them haha

  • @LtheOriginal
    @LtheOriginal Год назад +1

    I know this is going to sound completely backwards, but I always consider Evaded Extender as an "Offensive" skill, even though the word "evade" would imply it's a defense/escape skill. (Which...it technically is....)
    The sheer fact that, you can cover about twice the distance in the same evade time? (Meaning you're travelling at double speed.) It's basically the game giving you a tool to say "Use this, to dash in, weapon fully drawn. So you can rush down your enemy".
    Overall, ever since the skill first came into the series, I've ALWAYS thought it's such an A+ skill to have. Both defensively and offensively.

    • @CasoresDen
      @CasoresDen  Год назад +1

      I agree. However I've seen so many gap closing attacks or wirebug skills weapons have that make EE not such a priority. I love one slot of evade extender on all weapons tho, and I had a fun lance/gunlance build with triple EE, for offensive reasons mainly. It's very fun

  • @arthurrasch2218
    @arthurrasch2218 2 года назад +2

    i got this video recommenden and i thought that it probably had a couple thusand views and you had a bunch of subscribers, but that wasnt the case. But either way fantastic video

    • @CasoresDen
      @CasoresDen  2 года назад

      Hahaha thanks a lot, really appreciate it. I'm hoping more people get to see these videos, the more people I can help the better. I haven't uploaded this many things so it's early to say but I'm trying to do weekly stuff now!

    • @Ronin03
      @Ronin03 2 года назад +1

      Likewise on all accounts!
      Glad I could be your 100th sub

    • @CasoresDen
      @CasoresDen  2 года назад +1

      @@Ronin03 Thanks a lot bud! That was a fun milestone to wakeup to! Stay tuned for my SwitchAxe guide later on today

    • @Ronin03
      @Ronin03 2 года назад +1

      @@CasoresDen I'll put it this way, my character's name is Swax Hunter :)

    • @CasoresDen
      @CasoresDen  2 года назад +1

      @@Ronin03 Let's goooo, that's cool haha

  • @crypticloki4458
    @crypticloki4458 2 года назад +2

    I'm comfortable with level 2 of birth and try to get them in all my builds. If I can't I go for EE so I clear most attacks

    • @CasoresDen
      @CasoresDen  2 года назад

      I lost you a bit at the typo, birth? I'm a little confused

  • @leaveinpiece9765
    @leaveinpiece9765 2 года назад +2

    NEW TO THE CHANNEL, YOU EARNED A SUB MY FRIEND.

  • @Kryto_Gaming
    @Kryto_Gaming Год назад +1

    I love Evade Extender, especially with the buff it got in Rise. It's amazing on my two main weapons, Gunlance and SA.
    That being said, it's interesting that Sunbreak has added skills like Status Trigger that interact directly with Iframes. My guess is that Evade Extender and evading out of attacks is fundamentally more accessible, so they wanted to increase the potential reward of the high skill ceiling Evade window styles. This is especially likely since Rise's weapons having counters would have all but eliminated the need for Evade window without the corresponding new skills that directly use it.
    I'm very satisfied with this type of design as it gives the player a choice of interesting and equally effective styles with different pros and cons. Many Monster Hunter skills do a great job at this, which is something that many games lack. Too many games have upgrade trees that just add straight numbers.

    • @CasoresDen
      @CasoresDen  Год назад

      To be fair I'm happy myself. I love counters but I wanted to have the option to build different things too and the new abuse skills are perfect. Anybody can play anything at the moment and it would make sense. Game is less and less boring 😁

    • @Kryto_Gaming
      @Kryto_Gaming Год назад +1

      @@CasoresDen Yeah, I'm really happy that Rise is rising the bar with all sorts of skills with interesting skills with unique triggers. For example the Bladescale Hone skill single-handedly makes Izuchi Weapons viable. Then there's things like Build Up Boost which can make Poison competitive. It also interacts with the SA Exhuast Phial to revive Exhuast SA after it was made obsolete by EDCounter etc. Don't get me started on Hellfire and Coaleseance, or Derelction builds etc etc.

    • @CasoresDen
      @CasoresDen  Год назад

      @@Kryto_Gaming absolutely. I love status weapons and after seeing foray I started getting hyped up. Buildup boost just added up to that hype. Wonderful stuff. I figured exhaust phials would be viable after I saw that skill and made a guide about it. There's endless possibilities!

  • @UNSTABLE111
    @UNSTABLE111 2 года назад +1

    as a switch axe main...extender is a priorty for me to close in on enemies and I am halfway decent at dodging through attacks

    • @CasoresDen
      @CasoresDen  2 года назад +1

      I love extender too, I usually have it max in almost all builds now

  • @sorciak
    @sorciak 9 часов назад

    hi gpt question, Evade Window works also with SIlkbind skills on Long Sword ? or only with evade ?
    in moment when u sheet your weapon u can do attack that go thro monster even he is attacking,Evade Window will work for this ? or maybe Offensive Guard ?

    • @CasoresDen
      @CasoresDen  9 часов назад +1

      @@sorciak it does work with a lot of silk bind skills 😊

  • @GoToBedSheeva
    @GoToBedSheeva Год назад +1

    I love Evade Extender with HBG

    • @CasoresDen
      @CasoresDen  Год назад

      I don't usually play ranged weapons much but I would probably do the same

  • @CloudAkA21
    @CloudAkA21 2 года назад +1

    Me flying back in time because of the music.

    • @CasoresDen
      @CasoresDen  2 года назад +1

      The first soundtrack is File City (Day) from the original Digimon World game. I absolutely love it

    • @CloudAkA21
      @CloudAkA21 2 года назад +2

      @@CasoresDen Brings back some good memories I loved the old Digimon Game such a rocker 🤫 and thank you for giving me the name really apprecciated.

    • @CasoresDen
      @CasoresDen  2 года назад +1

      @@CloudAkA21 of course! I will remember to add them in the description also next time

  • @Hightower489
    @Hightower489 2 года назад +1

    Iframe rolling through a diablo''s horn swipe just to turn around and smash him in the face is the best.

    • @CasoresDen
      @CasoresDen  2 года назад

      It definitely feels so satisfying. Especially if you run no evade window and you just time it perfectly

    • @Hightower489
      @Hightower489 2 года назад +1

      @@CasoresDen I can only sometimes pull it off w/o any bonus evasion. I either keep lvl 3 evasion or go w/o it entirely. For anyone interested in trying dodging, get the full nargacuga set, it's a good set all around and I used it for a long time. If me and my jank ass keyboard and twitchy fingers can do it, you can too!

    • @CasoresDen
      @CasoresDen  2 года назад

      @@Hightower489 hahaha that's good to know. However the games have evolved and all monster's moves take up more frames so rolling through them is much, much harder, sometimes outright impossible without evade window

  • @chadmartinez8663
    @chadmartinez8663 Год назад +1

    What hammer move does that fast of damage at 2:41?

    • @CasoresDen
      @CasoresDen  Год назад

      Hi, this is your first switch skill with the hammer. It's called water strike. It replaces that awkward side hit on your A (circle) button combo. Time it correctly and you you will become completely invulnerable. After you successfully do that, you can press X (Triangle) to do a home run, which is the third hit of your regular X (Triangle) combo, or simply press ZR (R2) to charge your hammer to lv2 (uppercut). Must have skill in both scrolls and if you master it you will be a very good hammer player. Hope that covers it

  • @IDeVaste
    @IDeVaste 2 года назад +2

    Are you by any chance greek?

    • @CasoresDen
      @CasoresDen  2 года назад +2

      Yes I am, how come people ask this, is my accent this obvious? 😭😭😭.
      By the way damn, I feel so happy you commented, you're my favourite speed runner

    • @IDeVaste
      @IDeVaste 2 года назад +1

      @@CasoresDen Efxaristo haha, elliniko accent kani bam alla ta agglika sou ine poli kala

    • @CasoresDen
      @CasoresDen  2 года назад +1

      @@IDeVaste hahahaha πωω nice man, έχεις φοβερό κανάλι αλήθεια, very cool. Να σαι καλά!

  • @ZGOBRU
    @ZGOBRU 2 года назад +1

    Are you Greek by any chance?

    • @CasoresDen
      @CasoresDen  2 года назад

      Correct. The accent still lingers, even if it isn't as strong 😂

  • @MCDexpo
    @MCDexpo 11 месяцев назад +1

    Or, do the overkill route and use both 😂

    • @CasoresDen
      @CasoresDen  7 месяцев назад +1

      Evade Lance goes brrr

    • @MCDexpo
      @MCDexpo 7 месяцев назад

      Extended Evade Window Dual Blades go *BRRRRRRR*

    • @CasoresDen
      @CasoresDen  7 месяцев назад +1

      @@MCDexpo ruclips.net/video/t7_jpm1DYhc/видео.html&pp=ygUNbGV2aSBzcGlubmluZw%3D%3D

    • @MCDexpo
      @MCDexpo 7 месяцев назад +1

      Especially with Aerial Smash (or whatever it's called) 🤣🤣🤣