GUUUURDD! Been a longtime watcher and fellow BO/Squigy. I logged in recently and the game seems... really dead.. like abnormally dead.. what the heck happened?
@@thornwolf4234 come back in about 4 hours from the time of this comment - game has been having severe NA prime/late night population issues and nothing has been done to address it.
oh wow this makes so much sense now. I started up my RoR account a few months ago. I noticed a DRASTIC change in how the game is being played a very substantial loss of players vs the last time I played the game when this video was originally released. I made a post about it and potential changes to fix it and retain new players but it went on deaf ears and those that did reply were like, "there's a problem? What you listed are not problems" I was like oh no this isn't good. Probably why the pop is so low (like 30% of what it once was in 2020). I heard about another WAR server coming out through some people talking about it in chat. I checked it out on youtube and found about Interbellum, the new upcoming WAR server. I was like a new warhammer online server? Why is that? My interest piqued and so I checked out some videos and podcasts on it. Most of the videos were talking about a radical change in gameplay and an ENORMOUS focus on tools and S.O.P.s that prevented devs from messing with the server. All the guys were talking about it like it was serious business. The youtube algorithm randomly coughs up this video and it explains EVERYTHING and why the Interbellum devs are so passionate about preventing another devpocalypse. Thank you so much for this. Now I am excited more than ever for Interbellum and everything makes so much sense now. Even the word Interbellum is banned and filtered in RoR chat lol.
interbellum guy also censors ppl, and his server doesnt even exist yet its just a discord server circlejerk lmao. he also clicks on abilities, so he literally doesnt know how to play the game. but we are supposed to believe he is gonna mastermind the next big server. funny shit
nice guy zarbix, glad i had his videos to reference when i joined RoR in february 2020. he's probably only streamer i watch. edit; the slow fade to black, editing god
What time you playin? Im also from north america and ive noticed that the best times are weekends and early mornings which is later for over seas obviously. Im a night shifter so it kinda works for me
Hey bro, this is all kind of dead news now... but what you hear in the video was rising concerns over groundbreaking meta changes that were largely untested, and pushed through without any sort of warning or heads up. Along with an ass load of controversy. If you're new, don't let this sway you from playing. The server is still in a very much playable state. However, unfavorable changes can come around.
Regarding the changes....a bunch of ppl left not for the change itself but by the way they implemented....and the "if you dont like it just leave the game"....well mostly have followed his own advice and simply stopped to log in. Sometimes i check the forum....but finally got banned from forum for point the OBVIOUS....lmao
"Sometimes i check the forum....but finally got banned from forum for point the OBVIOUS." =)) same situation with me after they banned NB. but also i ve to mention that after leaving i got soo much time for real life. =)
Sure ROR got a "small boost" of population with the currency change at the beginning of April or so but sadly the game is going downhill for the past year. Now the shit hit the fan in the devs team ... this is not looking good☹ Zarbixx is right for a long time but the close circle "friends" of the devs team didn't include non bias people. RIP ROR
Yeah I recently left because of the changes and the RVR being broken. Also the population is wayyyyy down. NA sometimes barely has 100 players in RvR. While that could be due to summer and everything. It seemed like a year ago we had close to 3k active on the server during peak hours. I know almost all of my Alliance (and guild) have quit. They all got tired of the nonsense. Sad too because this is one of my favorite games. Hopefully the leadership team at RoR gets their heads out of their asses soon.
I left cuz I just couldn't progress. I felt no motivation, nor PvE, nor RvR. It is much harder these days to start as you just can't compete with high lvl ppl. PvE could've make the difference just to explore the world. But it is just abandoned. Nothing really new for past months. I don't remember anything significant since adding two new capitals which noone uses as they just don't work as analog for IC or Altdorf. It was one of the best MMO's I've ever played (especially if you consider it's actually dead for 9 years already and ROR is just a walking corpse who's trying to live) I hope someday we'll see this game rising shiny and not dying in ashes. (I could say something wrong as I am not pro-player who LIVED this gamestyle, but it's my review as a guy who just enjoyed it's "soul")
100%. I left the game myself because of the attitude of the devs, which seems to be "This is our game, we don't care what you guys want. Don't like it? Kindly go the hell away" The response from me and alot of others "Ok"
the only reason i quit is because the population. it was totally dead and i was struggling to find any groups even when i was checking both destro and order. european prime time might be better but that is early morning for me which i cant be bothered to play during.
Hate when Devs dismiss valid criticism as toxicity. They messed the game up with multiple bad changes, the population died as a result, and most of them never came back.
Meanwhile the devs themselves are easily the most toxic people in the community. I mean one of the head devs regularly tells anyone that criticizes the game to kill themselves, so yeah.
@@u235u235u235 gcd was 1.2 to 1.5 seconds depending on lag. now it is 1.5 seconds everytime and you can easily 'queue' key presses instead of mashing buttons. it is an improvement overall. but it is unclear if they should of made it 1.2 seconds. i stopped playing before this change happened so as a veteran i don't have an opinion what they should do about gcd.
Was really dumb to change how classes work... all i wanted them to do was add content... i dont need you to completely change the game i used to love, real dumb
Well. Let's be hopeful that we're gonna have a future to the game, and try to not drag it down by going full drama "I told you this would happen, I am leaving, you guys are rotten, terrible things will happens, think about it while everyone is leaving" on the forum, because afair lots of players have done this kind of final gambit over the years for different reasons (after NB being forbidden, during the slayer train meta after city siege release while GTDC was getting nerfed, after the fort implementation because destruction was winning all defenses and never attacking, more or less every few month when something is changed or not changed and someone doesn't like that...) and doing so did not seemed to help any way or change the minds, just spreading a bad mood over the community. 🥳
Would anyone be willing to give me a quick explanation of all the recent complaints against the devs and new problems with the game? Casual player here, tbh I just haven't been paying attention to the forums
While I see where you're coming from, personally the attitude of the devs and alot of players towards dissenters is what led to alot of negativity. Specifically the NB thing, and my bias is I support it, just so thats out in the open. The NB argument seemed to be "Here's why I support NB". The reply from devs "Don't care, we already made up our mind, piss off if you don't like it." The reply from anti-NB players "LOLOL GIT GUD SCRUB HAFTO CHEAT TO PLAY LOLOL JUST LEAVE" Now, thats not to say that people in favor of NB didn't also act dickish, ofcourse, but by and large that seemed to be the discourse. I guess what I'm saying, is that the problem repeatedly seems to be not the changes in and of themselves, its the attitude of the devs in implementing them, and the attitude of the player base who agree with said changes towards those that don't. If you're told enough times "If you don't like it, leave" eventually enough people will and the current pop reflects this. Its sad, because I love WAR online and want it to do well, even if I haven't touched the game in over a year.
i firmly believe NB was a needed change. I'm sorry but if someone is so bad and needs a mod to essentially play the game for them then there is no point in playing the fucking game. A decent player literally has no need for NB! Only people that complained about it obviously began to rely on it. I know so many people that where considered good at PVP before the change and after it they looked like they had barely played the game. When you rely on a crutch that badly and then its pulled from under you of course you're going to fall over.
i had a bw and sorc 85+. i played this classes for years getting top kill rates. when u do same thing for years u get strong habits that u cant break. like using NB. are u not wise enough to understand that NB is not a 1 button thing. with 1 button ur results shd be average. never in top 10. for example, i had 12 button if not to count pots (5) for direct and 9 for aoe. i used almost all skills on bw and sorc. and it worked fine. i knew when and what shd(nt) be used. i m not a piano player, i ve a tunnel syndrome and i had to leave. so as many others. same ppl as u say that robots shdnt be used on finance markets... just because...
removing NB was a great change i've never liked the fact that i am capable of managing 30 different buttons with ace while nubs where efficient spamming 1 button.. thats cheating.. i remember my time in classic wow playing my warrior smashing the meters with 0 MACROS and they were shocked i was pressing every action manually (stances, charges, targeting etc) even my 1 hand-shield and back to my 2h gear change in combat...i was using 3 different buttons for these actions instead of using 1 like the macroers. Everything should be MANUAL macros are cheating to boost bad players.
copy and pasted from an older reply to a similar comment Hey bro, this is all kind of dead news now... but what you hear in the video was rising concerns over groundbreaking meta changes that were largely untested, and pushed through without any sort of warning or heads up. Along with an ass load of controversy. If you're new, don't let this sway you from playing. The server is still in a very much playable state. However, unfavorable changes can come around.
Hello to all good people from Barracudax and hello to a big orc with a great sense of humor in his videos)). Of course a nightmare that they did with the game)). Yet most of the people who played on the official servers, from the height of the past years, say that the most normal balance was in the very last patch before the game was closed. I played a lot both on ru and eu official servers and I can say that warhammer online has always been distinguished from other games by the atmosphere created by many characteristic players with their charisma. It is a pity that this is all over and no one needs it anymore. Well done, hold on and say hello to Relife separately. P.S. google translate - translation from Russian, do not judge strictly)).
Hey brother. I miss running into your slayer. I still think about our fights every now and again. Really wish you did not end up banned. The game is still playable imo but the gcd/AP changes were strange in my mind.
@@GurddonYT This is not possible and there are many reasons. I play WoW and you will laugh, but I started making a video about a solo gank class that hasn't been in the meta for a hundred years)). Good luck to all decent people who are still left, your patience can only be envied.
The devs of this game keep cancelling players by undue punishment. Use of the word ass in a chat ruins your one night a week of gaming. The game is great, but the devs have a hostile player policy.
Personnaly the nerfedbutton removal was a big thing, tbh it wasnt that bad to be able to use 3 spells on 1 key (i thinking of BO in particular) now it s the same but just more annoying. Who cares rly in a 15 yo game if you hit 1 1 1 or 1 2 3. Now with all the other annoying thing added i also stopped logging
Yeah, it's a sad reality. Increasing GCD timer and disallowing abilities to chain honestly made the game feel slower than it already was. I personally never used NB but once it was removed, I lost a lot of friends and guild members. Personally felt NB wasn't necessary to play but the impact to ban it was immense.
I think champions and Heroes need to be reworked. Make them a little closer to dungeon bosses by adding some skills or special abilities to them to differ them out of stock and not being just beefy annoying versions of their type. For example champions can have 1 skill by doing rapid attacks or something. Heroes can go with 2 or 3 and having some passive effect. So it really felt like it’s a boss fight. Also increase chance of drop of more valuable items out of them. More rare item sets or more rare dyes and etc. That at least would give some reward for exploring the world and Public Quests.
I have said that before too the game def needs some pve changes and new stuff why isint there big bad world bosses during rvr? Or special pve gear and bonuses that only works on mobs
What do you think was the preface to come? 3:25
GUUUURDD! Been a longtime watcher and fellow BO/Squigy. I logged in recently and the game seems... really dead.. like abnormally dead.. what the heck happened?
@@thornwolf4234 come back in about 4 hours from the time of this comment - game has been having severe NA prime/late night population issues and nothing has been done to address it.
@@GurddonYT As an NA player.. that saddens me.
@@thornwolf4234 you ain't the only one
oh wow this makes so much sense now. I started up my RoR account a few months ago. I noticed a DRASTIC change in how the game is being played a very substantial loss of players vs the last time I played the game when this video was originally released. I made a post about it and potential changes to fix it and retain new players but it went on deaf ears and those that did reply were like, "there's a problem? What you listed are not problems" I was like oh no this isn't good. Probably why the pop is so low (like 30% of what it once was in 2020). I heard about another WAR server coming out through some people talking about it in chat. I checked it out on youtube and found about Interbellum, the new upcoming WAR server. I was like a new warhammer online server? Why is that? My interest piqued and so I checked out some videos and podcasts on it. Most of the videos were talking about a radical change in gameplay and an ENORMOUS focus on tools and S.O.P.s that prevented devs from messing with the server. All the guys were talking about it like it was serious business. The youtube algorithm randomly coughs up this video and it explains EVERYTHING and why the Interbellum devs are so passionate about preventing another devpocalypse. Thank you so much for this. Now I am excited more than ever for Interbellum and everything makes so much sense now. Even the word Interbellum is banned and filtered in RoR chat lol.
interbellum guy also censors ppl, and his server doesnt even exist yet its just a discord server circlejerk lmao. he also clicks on abilities, so he literally doesnt know how to play the game. but we are supposed to believe he is gonna mastermind the next big server. funny shit
nice guy zarbix, glad i had his videos to reference when i joined RoR in february 2020. he's probably only streamer i watch.
edit; the slow fade to black, editing god
1 year and 3 months later, and still relevant !!
Gravord tried blaming the healers in a city one time, I told him to STFU on stream and told him he was toxic garbage. ha
i call bs on that, "one time"
@@carl5939 True story, I quit RoR though because it's just a bunch of fat toxic neckbeard cunts
I didn’t know he owned a non tank top shirt ?
Recently tried to pick the game back up after a few years off. Man, it's a graveyard for NA players.
What time you playin? Im also from north america and ive noticed that the best times are weekends and early mornings which is later for over seas obviously. Im a night shifter so it kinda works for me
I've just returned playing and i have no clue what's wrong with the game and devs atm, can someone fill me in on what's going on?
Hey bro, this is all kind of dead news now... but what you hear in the video was rising concerns over groundbreaking meta changes that were largely untested, and pushed through without any sort of warning or heads up. Along with an ass load of controversy. If you're new, don't let this sway you from playing. The server is still in a very much playable state.
However, unfavorable changes can come around.
@@GurddonYT Thanks mate, I'm saddened to hear that
Regarding the changes....a bunch of ppl left not for the change itself but by the way they implemented....and the "if you dont like it just leave the game"....well mostly have followed his own advice and simply stopped to log in.
Sometimes i check the forum....but finally got banned from forum for point the OBVIOUS....lmao
"Sometimes i check the forum....but finally got banned from forum for point the OBVIOUS."
=)) same situation with me after they banned NB.
but also i ve to mention that after leaving i got soo much time for real life. =)
This is simply yet another clusterfuck of drama that these devs have been responsible for.
Sure ROR got a "small boost" of population with the currency change at the beginning of April or so but sadly the game is going downhill for the past year. Now the shit hit the fan in the devs team ... this is not looking good☹ Zarbixx is right for a long time but the close circle "friends" of the devs team didn't include non bias people.
RIP ROR
Lets hope for a AAA Warhammer Online Reboot :')))))
@@mightymort915 I am waiting for a MMORPG with Vermintide mechanics in a warhammer universe. Ez GOTY
How’s the game lookin recently? I just started and am wondering if it’s dead on NA still?
na still dead, thats y i quit
Yeah I recently left because of the changes and the RVR being broken. Also the population is wayyyyy down. NA sometimes barely has 100 players in RvR. While that could be due to summer and everything. It seemed like a year ago we had close to 3k active on the server during peak hours. I know almost all of my Alliance (and guild) have quit. They all got tired of the nonsense. Sad too because this is one of my favorite games. Hopefully the leadership team at RoR gets their heads out of their asses soon.
I left cuz I just couldn't progress. I felt no motivation, nor PvE, nor RvR. It is much harder these days to start as you just can't compete with high lvl ppl. PvE could've make the difference just to explore the world. But it is just abandoned. Nothing really new for past months. I don't remember anything significant since adding two new capitals which noone uses as they just don't work as analog for IC or Altdorf. It was one of the best MMO's I've ever played (especially if you consider it's actually dead for 9 years already and ROR is just a walking corpse who's trying to live) I hope someday we'll see this game rising shiny and not dying in ashes. (I could say something wrong as I am not pro-player who LIVED this gamestyle, but it's my review as a guy who just enjoyed it's "soul")
100%. I left the game myself because of the attitude of the devs, which seems to be "This is our game, we don't care what you guys want. Don't like it? Kindly go the hell away" The response from me and alot of others "Ok"
the only reason i quit is because the population. it was totally dead and i was struggling to find any groups even when i was checking both destro and order. european prime time might be better but that is early morning for me which i cant be bothered to play during.
Iv been wondering where did Zarbix disappeared to? He kinda got me into playing and i go and check and he hasn't uploaded in 4 years.
he bought that new scam game for like $500 usd lmao, rip wallet
I was thinking going back to game after a year. Does something changed since than? I cant see old streamers like Zarbix online anymore.
How’s the game now?
Playable, Still have bad apples here and there but overall it's enjoyable. - Aelteris (RR70 Zealot)
basically unchanged, or worse
Hate when Devs dismiss valid criticism as toxicity. They messed the game up with multiple bad changes, the population died as a result, and most of them never came back.
Meanwhile the devs themselves are easily the most toxic people in the community. I mean one of the head devs regularly tells anyone that criticizes the game to kill themselves, so yeah.
@@roman11777 Really?
The GCD changes was the worst change to me by far I hate it lol.
what did they change to gcd
@@u235u235u235 gcd was 1.2 to 1.5 seconds depending on lag. now it is 1.5 seconds everytime and you can easily 'queue' key presses instead of mashing buttons.
it is an improvement overall. but it is unclear if they should of made it 1.2 seconds. i stopped playing before this change happened so as a veteran i don't have an opinion what they should do about gcd.
@@pvprangergod4024 thanks for the info
RUclips keeps auto-hiding my comment with a link in it >:(
For a private server advertising itself with the slogan "WAR never ends" seems like the WAR is close to ending :P
Was really dumb to change how classes work... all i wanted them to do was add content... i dont need you to completely change the game i used to love, real dumb
What was the result of this after all this time?
The gcd is staying as is at 1.5 seconds. It supposeds to be a big reason/precursor to the "ability overhaul" that they keep talking about.
This game needs to nerf choppa's pull, atm. In my opinion, they have forgotten any other buttons.
Don’t worry, Fromtheus will be back soon.
Well. Let's be hopeful that we're gonna have a future to the game, and try to not drag it down by going full drama "I told you this would happen, I am leaving, you guys are rotten, terrible things will happens, think about it while everyone is leaving" on the forum, because afair lots of players have done this kind of final gambit over the years for different reasons (after NB being forbidden, during the slayer train meta after city siege release while GTDC was getting nerfed, after the fort implementation because destruction was winning all defenses and never attacking, more or less every few month when something is changed or not changed and someone doesn't like that...) and doing so did not seemed to help any way or change the minds, just spreading a bad mood over the community. 🥳
Would anyone be willing to give me a quick explanation of all the recent complaints against the devs and new problems with the game? Casual player here, tbh I just haven't been paying attention to the forums
While I see where you're coming from, personally the attitude of the devs and alot of players towards dissenters is what led to alot of negativity. Specifically the NB thing, and my bias is I support it, just so thats out in the open.
The NB argument seemed to be "Here's why I support NB".
The reply from devs "Don't care, we already made up our mind, piss off if you don't like it."
The reply from anti-NB players "LOLOL GIT GUD SCRUB HAFTO CHEAT TO PLAY LOLOL JUST LEAVE"
Now, thats not to say that people in favor of NB didn't also act dickish, ofcourse, but by and large that seemed to be the discourse.
I guess what I'm saying, is that the problem repeatedly seems to be not the changes in and of themselves, its the attitude of the devs in implementing them, and the attitude of the player base who agree with said changes towards those that don't. If you're told enough times "If you don't like it, leave" eventually enough people will and the current pop reflects this. Its sad, because I love WAR online and want it to do well, even if I haven't touched the game in over a year.
i firmly believe NB was a needed change. I'm sorry but if someone is so bad and needs a mod to essentially play the game for them then there is no point in playing the fucking game. A decent player literally has no need for NB! Only people that complained about it obviously began to rely on it.
I know so many people that where considered good at PVP before the change and after it they looked like they had barely played the game. When you rely on a crutch that badly and then its pulled from under you of course you're going to fall over.
wargrimnir relog plz
i had a bw and sorc 85+. i played this classes for years getting top kill rates. when u do same thing for years u get strong habits that u cant break. like using NB. are u not wise enough to understand that NB is not a 1 button thing. with 1 button ur results shd be average. never in top 10. for example, i had 12 button if not to count pots (5) for direct and 9 for aoe. i used almost all skills on bw and sorc. and it worked fine. i knew when and what shd(nt) be used. i m not a piano player, i ve a tunnel syndrome and i had to leave. so as many others.
same ppl as u say that robots shdnt be used on finance markets... just because...
removing NB was a great change i've never liked the fact that i am capable of managing 30 different buttons with ace while nubs where efficient spamming 1 button.. thats cheating.. i remember my time in classic wow playing my warrior smashing the meters with 0 MACROS and they were shocked i was pressing every action manually (stances, charges, targeting etc) even my 1 hand-shield and back to my 2h gear change in combat...i was using 3 different buttons for these actions instead of using 1 like the macroers. Everything should be MANUAL macros are cheating to boost bad players.
You're more than entitled to your own opinion lol
Is it still dead for NA?
yea
I'm just joining RoR I've really been enjoying it. I honestly have no idea what this is about. I hope it's nothing major.
For new players it is likely not noticeable.
would you like to join up? I'm gathering a band on martyrs square
What happened now?
copy and pasted from an older reply to a similar comment
Hey bro, this is all kind of dead news now... but what you hear in the video was rising concerns over groundbreaking meta changes that were largely untested, and pushed through without any sort of warning or heads up. Along with an ass load of controversy. If you're new, don't let this sway you from playing. The server is still in a very much playable state.
However, unfavorable changes can come around.
Hello to all good people from Barracudax and hello to a big orc with a great sense of humor in his videos)).
Of course a nightmare that they did with the game)).
Yet most of the people who played on the official servers, from the height of the past years, say that the most normal balance was in the very last patch before the game was closed.
I played a lot both on ru and eu official servers and I can say that warhammer online has always been distinguished from other games by the atmosphere created by many characteristic players with their charisma. It is a pity that this is all over and no one needs it anymore.
Well done, hold on and say hello to Relife separately. P.S. google translate - translation from Russian, do not judge strictly)).
Hey brother. I miss running into your slayer. I still think about our fights every now and again. Really wish you did not end up banned. The game is still playable imo but the gcd/AP changes were strange in my mind.
@@GurddonYT This is not possible and there are many reasons.
I play WoW and you will laugh, but I started making a video about a solo gank class that hasn't been in the meta for a hundred years)). Good luck to all decent people who are still left, your patience can only be envied.
@@Barracudax_Dwarf I love classic/vanilla wow. I am actually working on enhancement shaman there when I don't play RoR. Cheers mate.
What is GCD?……it’s been a few for me.
Gcd stands for global cool down (aka the amount of time between you being able to press and fire off abilities.)
@@GurddonYT Doh lol. I remember now. Thanks!
@@DakkhonBlackBlade no problem man 🖖
The devs of this game keep cancelling players by undue punishment. Use of the word ass in a chat ruins your one night a week of gaming. The game is great, but the devs have a hostile player policy.
Has been and always will be a problem, sadly. Can't wait for Interbellum to come out.
NB was cheaty and we lose more players with NB than without.
Personnaly the nerfedbutton removal was a big thing, tbh it wasnt that bad to be able to use 3 spells on 1 key (i thinking of BO in particular) now it s the same but just more annoying. Who cares rly in a 15 yo game if you hit 1 1 1 or 1 2 3. Now with all the other annoying thing added i also stopped logging
Yeah, it's a sad reality. Increasing GCD timer and disallowing abilities to chain honestly made the game feel slower than it already was.
I personally never used NB but once it was removed, I lost a lot of friends and guild members. Personally felt NB wasn't necessary to play but the impact to ban it was immense.
indeed
The game needs better rewards/pve.
İ think you are %100 right.
I think champions and Heroes need to be reworked. Make them a little closer to dungeon bosses by adding some skills or special abilities to them to differ them out of stock and not being just beefy annoying versions of their type. For example champions can have 1 skill by doing rapid attacks or something. Heroes can go with 2 or 3 and having some passive effect. So it really felt like it’s a boss fight.
Also increase chance of drop of more valuable items out of them. More rare item sets or more rare dyes and etc.
That at least would give some reward for exploring the world and Public Quests.
I have said that before too the game def needs some pve changes and new stuff why isint there big bad world bosses during rvr? Or special pve gear and bonuses that only works on mobs