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M2 MacBook Pro 16" Did I Make A Mistake!? (One Week Later!)
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- Опубликовано: 2 фев 2023
- I have been using the new M2 Max MacBook Pro for over a week now and while from the start I was planning on not upgrading... I'm starting to wonder is it possible that I made a mistake because there area a lot of advantages by going with the bigger 16 inch model including the display size and battery life. And is the M2 Max chip a worthwhile upgrade over the M1 Max chip?
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Nope… complete waste. You should send it to me so I can dispose of it properly.
And can write him the adress where to send it, then I will send it to you... lmao
Uh....... Free shipping if you send it to me.
Lol
I phone 15 max pro
Is intended for people who have received 📱
@@coffeetime1001 i'll even be willing to pay him 100 bucks and cover shipping 😂. And I know it'll still be cheaper. So not even free, but negative shipping costs.
I got the 16" M1 Max, I wanted the larger screen and more screen realestate for graphics work and the increased GPU cores for 3d work and I'm not disappointed. I always use it on a table or desk, I've never used a laptop on my lap I find it awkward and it's not heavy despite what reviewers seem to constantly say, I also don't need to go hiking with it and use it in remote locations so its increased size is not a concern. Personally I hate working off laptop screens smaller than 15", I'm after a portable desktop experience rather than an "on the go" on a train or plane experience.
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I agree
I have the 14” M1 MacBook Pro. While I love this machine, I’d rather have the 16” model if I had a choice (mine was provided through my job). Some of us just have larger laps. 😊
same, i wish they made one that is 20 inche
16” is the sweet spot for me. It is not too heavy but I travel light. If I were a student and carrying my laptop all around along with books it would be too big. For a work at home person who can take it out and about for change of scenery, the 16” is ideal.
@@Sh0n0 totally agree! that is exactly what I thought! I change it from 14 inches to 16 inches and think if they can make it larger. I am a man and do not care to take three 16 inch mac to travel all the days
@@zardlucky8557 i am a man too and wish they make a huge laptop that is more like 10-15lbs not just 3-4.5 lbs that would be better
@@Sh0n0
use HDMI and connect it to 85" tv
For me, 16" is a must. I open several applications at the same time including Premiere, AfterEffects, Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, Dreamweaver, Cinema 4D, Office Suite and more and with as many floating palettes as I can fit. I had maxed out 96GB of RAM just for these opened applications.
96Gb is insane, for me 32Gb I'm already impressed, lol if only the RAM was upgradeable.
Cmd+Q bro. Cmd+Q.
I absolutely LOVED my 17” MBP - purchased in 2008 and still running today!
I replaced the original HD with an SSD IN 2015. But it still lights up and purrs.
Looking forward to using the 16” M2 chip model…
Nice! I have an ‘09 17” and still love it! It was my main editing machine until 2019 when the hinge broke. I still fire it up from time to time for nostalgia’s sake. That beast got me through film school and 8 years of professional video and photo work.
I upgraded to an M2 Mac Book Pro 16” from a 2014 Mac Book Air. So yeah. It is a HUGE difference! However, I have to stress that my 2014 still works. As does my 2007 Mac Book Pro. Macs are just the shit man. Great video.
If you edit photos on the run without an external display, like I do, a 13 inch display gives you roughly an 9” diagonal image proof to work with. On a 16 inch, that’s more like an 12-13 inch proof. It makes a big difference when you’re editing lots of images at a fair pace with professional expectations.
I use the 14”, but I generally have it docked to the 27” Apple studio monitor. So I get both a big screen at home and the portability of the 14” MBP. Perfect for me.
This is the way
Took my 14” back. Over heating with the max chip. I think the cooling bank isn’t sufficient enough. Best to just go M2 Pro on 14” and not the MAX.
16 is the way to go if you just have it at home. I love mine but it never leaves my desk. Love that I can just open it and do all my Logic Pro work without ever having to put it on an external display. I can sit in bed and play Civilization, its a gorgeous thing even 1 year later sometimes I open it and just say “my god” in absolute astounded glory.
I have had my M1 MAX Pro for 6 months and compared to my mid-2012, it works well. I wish they made a 32 core CPU as opposed to extra GPU as I run VMs.. but It is mostly a desktop for me. Still a $3,700 laptop is well a bit much.
Nice video review, Greg. Here's what works [for me] if you can afford it:
- For road warrior, flight use, coffee shops, non-CPU intensive work: MacBook Air M2
- For coworking heavy-duty work and home/office: MacBook Pro 16 Max M1/M2
And if you can only afford one:
- MacBook Pro 14 Pro/Max M1/M2 (great compromise as a solid mobile laptop)
I got 16” from my workplace and bought 14”. I WFH and use 16” much more often than 14”.
For my work (music production) the extra screen space is invaluable. Just because you don’t feel the extra screen real estate doesn’t make a difference for you, there are professional use cases where it can make a big difference to workflows.
I travel a lot so the 14" MBP would be a more practical choice for me. Now if I can just fit it into my budget...
I ordered a 16in M2 Max with all the fixings. I'm not too fussed with the size/weight. It's basically the same size and weight as my wife's older 15in MBP and my Razor Blade 15. I would've liked a 14in for a change but as someone who needs to use After Effects and Cinema 4D on it at times, it's just too cramped and workflow inhibiting.
Hey man. I'm intending on using Ae and blender for my work. I'm confused whether to buy m1 max or m2 max. Could you help me out pls?
@@joshfernandez8475 Let your wallet be the deciding factor lol. Seriously, what can you afford? Bear in mind that with an m1 max which is cheaper, with the additional cost you'd spend on an M2 you can actually use it to upgrade the RAM or storage or even both. Plus the M1 Max performance wise is still a force to be reckoned with. M2 is even more powerful, but that in no way takes away from how great the M1 is. In the end it comes down to how much your are willing to spend and whether you really need the additional performance that the M2 gives you, even at the expense of being able to potentially have more RAM and/or Storage.
@@orwellmushaikwa2591 hey thanks a lot for the reply. I ended up buying the M1 Max 😬!!
I was able to snag a brand new 14 inch M1 Pro 10 core/16 core 16 gb/1 TB SSD for $1999, which is more than adequate for my usage. The 14 inch size is perfect. The 16 inch would be too large for my taste. I tend to be reclining and have it on my lap. For travel, I have the M2 Air, also specced up (16gb/500 SSD). I saved $150 on that one, too. Both laptops are great. I just could not bring myself to buy the base model of either, given the slower one NAND chip issue.
If you have MacBook Air to use on the go, it will be more reasonable to get the 16-inch, not the 14!!!
Love your down to earth/honest videos. I have the 2021 14” MacBook Pro and will stick with my laptop for at least one to two more years. Great laptop!!
I've been watching your videos for a while now and I now subscribed to the channel because you asked it to afford a better condo. Power to you my friend :D
Good points. Best call I think is to get the form factor that feels and works best for you, and the performance will work itself out depending on your use case.
@ 4:08… Me laughing in my 34” 1000R curved ultra-wide 2k monitor 😂😂😂
You don't buy a 16 inch MBP with portability in mind. You have MB Airs and smaller 13-14 inch options for it. You sacrifice a little portability for specs that's how I see it.
I've just ordered the max 16" - I won't be taking it out much so wanted to get the best experience 😄
How are you liking it so far? I did the same thing over the weekend, but haven’t taken it out the box as yet as I’m wondering if I made the right choice
@@dijahmedi4882 If your previous laptop was anything older than M1 series Macbooks, you'll be amazed. I went from an i5 laptop and I'm blown away. Desktop power in a device this size is just incredible. I've found that I work a lot faster when using the MacOS gestures too (4 finger swipe, 2 finger scroll, hand pinch, etc). If you don't plan on upgrading for the next 3-4 years or longer, then it's perfect!
I got the 16” M2 Max on launch. However, I just ordered a 14” M2 Max last night, supposed to come in tomorrow. I have until Feb 7 to return my 16”. So we’ll see which one I like more. I upgraded from a 13” 2017 macbook pro, so i kinda miss that size… also ordered space gray for the 14 since i miss that color from my 13”
so.. what was the result? :)
@@darrenhasley2041 Initiated a return for my 16” with Apple, but decided to cancel that return and will return the 14” to best buy. The 16” real estate is just too good imo
@@wckdend9317 This happed to me to as well.
@@wckdend9317 Think you will appreciate the thermal headroom with the Max chip in the 16. That chip is a lot for the 14" chassis. I do love the footprint of the 14 though, more versatile if you take it around.
You could always get me one or just mail me your rejects. Lol kidding. Great show!
Lol thanks!
Seems like a great work laptop for tall people or people who don't have a TV monitor if they work from home. I work in IT for a major company and noticed a similar trend with the Lenovo Thinkpad T16 G1. All the people who ordered it for their PC refresh either didn't have a TV monitor at home or were very tall.
Rarely do you see people with a 16-inch laptop of any brand at coffee shops or on airplanes. It's the 13 and 14-inch laptops at coffee shops and on airplanes for the most part.
I have never used my MBP's charging brick. I don't even know where it IS. I plug it into my USB-C cable that goes to my monitor, and that's cool because it means one less video cable on my desk and it charges the MBP just fine.
The MBP16 is hands down the best computer I have ever used in my life! Love love love! Sound, display, battery life, etc. I would like the size of the smaller MBP or the 14P for portability, but I dont want to sacrifice the full performance, battery and display of the 16. Thanks for your video! Keep up the good work!
Hey Greg, you must be planning on a mountain sheep hunt. That's what we do in Alaska, stash a bunch of rocks into an empty backpack early in the summer & go running up and down any hills we can find so we'll be in shape for the fall mountain sheep hunt. 😎😎Just keep the 16 " Heavy Duty Mac Pounder, throw in a bunch of big Macs and you're good to go!😎😎
Thanks for your enlightenment.
I am still using a 15inch 2015mbp. Mainly used for still photography (tethering on location)
I think 16inch is a better choice for my situation.
. I owned 11inch powerbook(smaller screen experience)
15inch MBP almost same size and same weight as 16inch.
I am in Malaysia and M2pro series is NOT reach our shore
yet. Also M1pro 16 is having a discount...
I’m going with 14 inch, since most of the time I am using the Studio Display.
I have the 16” and it stopped working. It will not turn now and my warranty expires on the 12 of March. I an not happy.
Hear me out on this as I swapped twice! On release day I got a 14” like I already had. The next day I said you know what let me try the 16” and I was shocked how big it felt and weight so much I went back to the 14”’but wait…. Today I once again ordered a 16” max 38 model again 😂 because my god nothing is better. It runs so much cooler, longer battery, the screen, speakers and what I feel like is the ugliest form factor on the block.
Even though I hate how it feels to carry, hate how it looks, hate how it feels it still does everything I need it to do and does it better, faster, MUCH quieter fans this year (the 14” spins up to 6800rpm now after blasting to 108c when the 16” for me hasent gone past 90 and still quiet fans). It’s all I need to see to know the bad stuff is worth it this time around. I might reconsider when m3 comes but until then this is the best of the best and for the money that’s what I want not a hot running watered down chip just because it’s more pleasing to carry. Note I don’t travel via airplane often but if I did I would simply take an iPad or an Air if you have one and keep the 16” on deck in your bag for when your off the flight then use the air or iPad as a sidecar display at your destination for multiple display workstation. Can’t lose
Thank you so much for this video!
I am about to replace my 2015 macbook pro, and I do heavy graphics. Should I go for: M1 MAX or M2 PRO? (both 32GB and 1T) in your opinion? Screen size is 16' as I need it.
Thanks in advance!
It's a little tricky! If it's the 32 core M1 Max - go for that one. If it's the 24 core M1 Max, the M2 pro GPU I believe is slightly better.
Side by side, the 14” is too whimpy! 😅
Once you’ve had 16”, you can’t go back… 😏
…..But seriously the bigger display, better speakers, bigger track pad, better cooling and especially the battery life 🔋 make it a no-brainer. …….and get the M1 folks 😅 Save the money 💰
It's quite funny when you say that the 16-inch MacBook is large and heavy. It's the same size as the previous 15-inch MacBook (2020 and earlier), with no difference in size. As for the weight, I'm glad it's not made of creaky plastic.
Love the show, thank you, helps me make the right choices and saves me tons of money
That intro was Gold!
I find the 16-inch way too big. I used to think bigger is better, but once I got the 14-inch Pro I fell in love with it! Maybe for programmers and content creators, the 16-inch is better.
Coming from windows 16 inch laptops, I find it to be actually smaller and lighter than the laptop I carry around for work on a day to day basis. 😂
It's the same size as the previous 15-inch MacBook (2020 and earlier), with no difference in size.
I’m going to wait for the M3 Max OLED panels
OLED is mistake. Maybe apple do it right.
I’m waiting for the M6 MacBooks
Why is OLED a mistake?
@@matth254 Poor HDR, dark screen, high power consumption, white looks blue from different viewing angles, flickering invisible, but some people feel a headache. Burning static elements. Very glossy screen where black looks like grey.
Micro LED is a better choice.
I’m going to wait for the M5
coming from a 2013 pro retina 15 inch I was surprised to see that the size is nearly identical between the 2023 MacBook Pro 16 inch and the 2013 even though the 2023 has an extra inch of screen.
Well i just graduated high school and thinking about start working.
And on the side i was thinking about buying a high spec Macbook Pro and i will just pay it mothly for 3 years and think about it as if i am paying for a tuition fee for a school. I was thinking about learning programming,graphic design,music,japanese(because i live in japan)etc.Is this a good idea?Any advice for me and what spec should i get?
I’ve taken the plunge. Got an interest free deal over two years
You are One of my fave techs always nice! To hear your point of you!
For me 16" is the perfect size, better thermals, performance, speakers, battery life, runs silent and the screen is amazing, but I get, to be fair even the M1 MacBook Air is awesome.
Perfect size?! For UX/UI and front-end website developers working from home, yes.
For people traveling and doing similar work, the 14-inch laptop is better.
@@akin242002 The 16-inch is just as portable with longer battery life, which is important if you are out and about.
@@zoltanzana I strongly disagree on the equally portability part. It is not as easy to fit into backpacks as the 14-inch, it isn't as easy to put on an airplane trey table, and is 1lbs heavier.
@@akin242002 There is absolutely no issue with the portability factor, whether it's on the plane or when I carry it in my backpack. Only if you're a small child or have a physical disability, half a kilo might pose a problem
@@zoltanzana I don't think you read my statement clearly. I said they are not equally portable. I did not mention that it wasn't portable at all. A laptop that is smaller and lighter will naturally be more portable than a heavier and wider laptop.
Less is more. It takes a lifetime for some people to learn this. But, to each their own - spend your money as you see fit. It’s the M2 MacBook Air for me - the MacBook Pro is extreme overkill for my needs. The size and weight of the Pro model is more of a burden than a benefit.
Watching Greg"s video, and hearing him explain his own usage, HE could easily have made do with the new M2 Air, as well, perhaps specced up a bit, like mine. Having said that, some of us just like nice gadgets. Since getting the M1 Pro, I have been using it a lot, so will give hubby my M2 Air, or at least share it with him....😝
Great vid, real question is where did you get your hoody? Thanks.
I hear you and luke and all of you talking about portability, I don't see myself going out with such a computer which I hope to buy someday.. I'm just bored of having 13-inch laptop for decades, the 17 inches stopped in 2011 and is not upgradeable and now with a real Mac, I want to get one I good carry from home to the office. (but would mostly stay at home to have a second working computer for graphic design etc..
I've pretty much given up an apple making a 16 inch Macbook air so I just ordered a base model m2 16 inch Macbook pro to replace my m1 air. 13 and even 14 is too small.
I still wish they bring back the 17 inch though.
Add an Ipad and sidecar app to use it as mobile second screen while editing
Typing on the 15 inch air or 16 inch pro is horrible. Keyboard is set so far back, you've got to rest your wrists on the trackpad, or just next to it. It's awful.
Love the 13 inch air size best, but had a go on a 14 inch, and that's comfortable too.
Would never buy the 15 inch or 16 inch models.
At 8:35 the 12/19 core isn't M2 Max. M2 Max has 12/30 cores and 12/38 cores.
Did you refer to the 19 or 30 cores?
I think it’s really dishonest how you guys buy these things with a complete intention of returning them. If 10,000 RUclipsrs, do like you, it affects us all. I find it very unethical. You’ve never had attention to keep this, it’s performed and did fantastic for you, but you’re returning it anyway.
Planning to get Apple MacBook pro 16 m2.
I think the upcoming 15” MBA will be perfect
Reasons for not having the supreme 16inch Macbook pro experience: "my coffee might not fit on the same table....😂"
I have a 2019 16" and an M1 14". Never use the 16" anymore
I can’t get over that notch!
16” M2 MacBook Pro 1TB 16G 12CPU 19GPU space grey on Apple employee discount = $2800. Can’t go wrong
Still waiting for apple 🍎 to add cellular chip in laptop. I use my iPad Pro 1st gen still because of cellular connectivity I know they probably won’t because iPad sales would tank
Spec'ed out 14 or 16" is over 4k$ Too expensive
The perfect solution is to buy both the 14 and 16' -- 🙂
really, are you confused 😯 ???
M1/M2 is okay but i do miss bootcamp
You almost certainly have some recent common ancestor with Harrison Ford.
14”….perfect
I bet this blows away the base model 2019 Mac Pro?
The late 2021 M1 Pro blew everything out of the water, which is why it"s still highly recommended, by most reviewers.
It’s heresy in this group… get a cheap iPad if you want portability for surfing or emails at the coffee shop. Then combine it with sidecar beside your 16” MBP @ home.
doyou even lift bro (hahah omg)
I'm getting a 16 because of Battery Speakers cooling and screen size. Saving up for taxes ram and SSD upgrades before I buy one.
base model is good enough and i just bought from new jersey this weeknd there was a tax holiday
It’s not the size, but how you use it. But if you have loosely high memory requirements, then bigger is definitely better so you can get the 96GB.
16’’=more screen estate on the go but at a pricd
Tech RUclipsrs stop it a computer is thousands of dollars a good computer should last 5 years preferably 7. You do not need an upgrade every year or two. The devices are appliances and end up in landfill stop wasting precious resources mined out of the earth.
Is the screen prone to scratches?
It’s just a video of you thinking out loud. Lol. The 15.4 has been my biggest to date and 16 is so tempting. I have never brought a laptop to a cafe and haven’t traveled with one in awhile since I use the iPhone for that. Ugh! I’m typing out loud!
what kinda backpack is that white one?
Bigger is ALWAYS better! Smaller guys will never understand.
IM SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BUYING IT NEXT WEEK
how did you run resident evil village on Mac? my steam account says it's only supported on windows?
ok, I see. seems that you need to purchase it from App Store. to bad that there is no ability to use it from my steam
I have vision needing larger screen.
Yes it over kill so m2 pro chip there just improved version base m2 5nm chip with some more horse power. instead giving us 3nm TSMC chip we all hoped for.
I legit subbed so you can move to a better condo
For environmental preservation, why are we still not able to send our M1s back to them to swap the internals if it's the same design still? Boggles my mind. I'm still rocking a pristine 17 inch macbook maxed out in late 2011. Someone would have to gift me one of these for me to upgrade. No thanks. What?!
Space grey or silver is the real question haha
I would prefer a max out 14" M2 Max, I6" is just too heavy to carry around and the performance between 14 and 16 is limited.
Maybe too heavy if you are a child
@@zoltanzanait is heavy. And bulky compared to almost any other portable on the market. Imagine having it in a backpack on your commute on public transport. It's a fantastic machine. But it's a portable desktop replacement. No one works with this on their lap either, unless they're wrestler
@@patrickhussain7163 I can easily work on it on my lap, it is not only light but also comfortable. More productive work can be done because of the screen size.
There are plenty of new technology based USB C chargers that are physically much smaller and weight less than Apple's. They my not be as powerful but they'll get you back runninng.
I’ve never owned a laptop/MacBook until last year.
The 16” feels normal.
I really like the performance, display & battery & I’m on the M1 Max still.
Bitching about the size & weight? Wow, you should just be happy you could afford one.
I’ll rather get the 14
@@wolf_river808withcommentar4 I have the 12” iPad. That’s probably why the 14” seemed to small for me.
Your gonna love it though, the 14”, just the performance itself of these M series Mac’s are absolutely awesome. 🎊🎉🎈🎊🎉
@@iforgot3942 I already have it.Its been amazing for me since I travel a lot.
The heat sync on the m2 pro machines aren’t as good as the M1 Pro machines. They are cutting cost there to keep the price the same. Shame
That fact was one I considered when choosing a brand new 14 inch M1 Pro, just a few weeks ago. The $500.00 savings was nice, too.
Whats the max ram on this pro version?
how high is cooler noise ?
My prediction about this vid was right Lmao
What will happen on the day a gpu becomes so fast, that speed comparisons equal zero across all task. All photo and video editing is instantous. How far is of is that day I wonder... the M9??? As the jump from M1 to M2 its hardly exciting.
You are wearing an Apple Watch Ultra! I think you answered your own question just by that!
Wait for the rumoured 15 inch MBA.
I prefer a bigger screen. But i wish it had a numpad.
-.-; it’s okay to do a product review but it sounds stupid if you keep making video like do I regret 1 week after?!
big and ready for war 😂
“It’s so HEAVY”, meanwhile I’m upgrading from a 2012 15” MBP, so this new one is lighter. 🤣
Not buying till they bring back the back lit logo.
Do you even lift, Macbook Bro?
Sounds like a good deal to me