TRUE Over Bauer & CCM Skates ? What players NEED to know about TRUE Catalyst 9 hockey skate review
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Just received my Custom SVH skates and the fit is absolutely insane. I always had problems with bunions/spurs and now it is the first time in my life a skate feels like a sock; no pressure points, no problems!
Currently wearing the TF7s upgraded from ribcore 77ks that I’ve had for years and they are fantastic can’t say anything bad about them. And as for the tongue, with most of not all of the True skates the height of the tongue can be adjusted as it’s just held to the toebox with Velcro!!
I have been wearing retail TF7’s for 2 years now. They fit great for wide/oddly shaped deer. Have been wanting to upgrade my skates but can’t justify it because they’ve held up great.
Hi whoever is skating at 1:53 1:54, the skate is a bit too wide on the right foot. You have a shake which is turbulence and that is caused in part, by excessive width.
Great videos as always.
WOW very exciting skates! Looking forward to all the comparisons of the different models and also a comparison to custom skates from other brands!
Coming soon!
I tried these on and they were the best feeling skates I have ever worn. They're stiff, but feel like a pair of slippers on my foot. If I was a skater and not a goalie, these are the skates I would wear.
I like having the tendon protector and tongue being replaceable. I wear my shin pads over the tongue so having that tongue being shorter in not a problem. Thanks as I am looking for a new pair of skates now.
Great video. Any chance we could get a review of the cat 5?
These are actually great for wide feet, I'm an EEE+, was wearing nexus EE which was wide enough in the forefoot but too loose around the ankle. tried all 3 brands few months ago, tacks EE have gotten better, supreme fit 3 are not even close to the nexus ee. Went with the True Cat 5 as fit a touch more snug than my nexus but much better ankle wrap support. im a beginner skater but a huge improvement immediately.
Are your cat 5 holding up OK? That's the big question with the cat 5. I just got the 5 and only went for one skate.
@@calgary2800 almost a year now, holding up great, been on them approx twice a week, my balance greatly improved , boot still snug and firm.
just got the CAT 5 back in December, and they fit very very well. only thing I gotta do now is switch out the blades since i was used to getting Bladetech.
Need to get me some Bladetech too! I only have them for CCM and Bauer :(
Had got the True Cat 7s they are unreal with how they wrap around your foot, comfort is crazy good.
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They just have shit quality rivets ripped the holders right off at a pick up skate. Had got them re done with all copper rivets.
You can adjust the length of the tongue as well, i had the same issue, so i just took the tongue out and stuck the velcro on further down.
its still to thin. we need more meat ! lol
I purchased my CAT9's a few months ago. They came with bent steel, which was immediately replace at no cost of course. I guess there was a run where a bunch left the factory where in which the steel was crooked. So keep an eye out for that if you get them. Besides that these have been awesome. They do sit a bit higher than the usual CCM or Bauer, and takes a little bit to get the feel for. But like he said here, once you use them, it's no problem getting a good feel for them. These things are amazing.
It was the holders that were mounted incorrectly. Check your steel again to be sure it's not repeating.
Couldn't agree with you more
@@mikeva4127 this had me worried, and just double checked. as of right now the steel is straight. I'll update here if that changes.
Hi there I just received the skate and blade is bent. Why ? I saw at forum many complaints on this known issue ?
I have the true tf9 and the tongue can be pulled up for maximum comfort but you can’t where them outside the knee pad well.
Been wearing these for a few weeks, best skate I have ever had. Extremely comfortable, while also being very stiff and high performance. A huge upgrade over my old Bauers.
Can you talk/feature about the bauer supreme 3s pros please i’m thinking of buying some
Great video. You've got to do a follow up once your mate bakes his skates, especially since he's coming from another brand. That's kind of the point with True.
Can you get a tendon guard that flexes more than the Catalyst tendon? I thought that was their tendon guard option with the most flex.
Can't wait to see the custom review!
You and me both! Looking forward to sharing the order process and all the options.
True definitely deserves more attention 👍
I’m a former competitive ice dancer and for years wore custom boots that were $800 a pair (not including blades), and was looking for a great fitting first hockey skate to join a beer league this year. Did all the research I could and ended up getting TF7’s. Can’t say enough about how pleased I am with the fit and value at only $329 usd and I’m looking forward to putting them through a couple beer league seasons before upgrading to these Catalyst 9’s.
I just tried my new Cat9's out last night and I loved the fit, HOWEVER.... I never got my blades profiled. How the blades come is NOT ideal. Anyone reading this, definitely get your blades profiled (not just sharpened) before you get out on the ice with these haha... I had the worst game of my life last night because I couldn't cross over, stop, turn backwards with any confidence or speed.
These are really nice though, the comfort level is insane.
I've had 3 pairs of Trues and custom Trues. Here's how they are different from CCM/ Bauer. They touch every part of your foot, where as the CCM/ Bauer stuff leaves a little wiggle room. True make great skates (I went back to a Bauer Mach).
Why did you go back to the Bauers, appreciated the wiggle room and didn't like the snuggness?
Yes. But I heard you can ask TRUE to also have some wiggle room. They are both great skates. The Bauer will have some resale value when you are done with them....not TRUE with the TRUE skates (No pun intended. LOL). @@willynillynilky5226
If you like the True, why’d you go back to the Bauer?
I’m trying to decide if I keep the True Cat9 or the ultrasonic. Thx!
I have 7.5 Bauer vapor 3x pro. What size would you recommend for the true? No shops around me has them to try on…
Nice video. Would be interested in a video on the wides, with someone who has a nexus size foot
If u wear Nexus these won't fit you even in a wide. I wore d width Bauer and fit 2 and my cat pros are based off the cat 9 wide shell.
Ive had my TF9s for a few years. Comfort I will agree True skates are the most comfortable skates I have ever skated in. However as a few have said, I'm not impressed by the quality. I don't play anywhere near high level and am switching out to a different skate because the tongue is breaking apart, which is actually not the out of box but their memory foam one,, the clear coat is coming off, I've broken 2 blades ((both Step Blacksteel and in the exact same place, right where the LONG hook connector is by the vertical bar) and I can shift both runners back and forth in the holder about 2 mms. I have never broken a piece of steel in Bauer nor CCM skates. I feel there is some sort of design flaw in their holder and runner.
You can buy new tongues easily. I, personally, use the t-guard felt tongues. Think they’re like $70 and can be customized for free. The steel/holder issue was addressed by True and is why they now have the Shift Max holder. Have you contacted True about any of your issues to see if they’d cover anything under warranty?
You could buy new tongues and swap holders for about $100 and basically have new skates. Just throwing out an option you may not have considered
I bet almost any skate would feel great on ice like that. Our rink is so disgustingly chewed up I feel like I need full suspension.
I've heard True's are terrible for wide feet. Of skates I've seen recently, the super tacks are the best option for my foot (7 crazy wide, like old Bauer Nexus fit).
Please review the TRUE SVH skate - true custom skate built from the inside out. Thanks
Look out for a video later this week ;) we're going to see True.
Hey Chris.
Which is a stiffer skate, the Bauer Ultrasonic or the True Cat 9?
Thanks.
Are there any cleaning techniques that are needed for blades after skating to prevent rust buildup or anything, or will just a simple rag wiping the ice off them be enough?
If they are high quality. just dry them
Fits like a ski boot and after you bake them... it's most comfortable skate I've ever had out of the box. They really wrap around your ankles.
Got these two weeks ago, the clear coat peeled off. The TF9 broke before that out of nowhere.... built quality is bot great from True imo. Went back to Bauer.
I have to ask, are you still wearing these? I’m wearing CCM Ribcor 100k Pros and was thinking of trying these. I’m in a 7.5r in CCM, not sure if I would need 8 in these? Any quality issues?
Coming from a Jetspeed FT1, I got my SVH Customs back in November. After 10 Skates in them, I absolutely hated them. They have been put on the shelf for now. I will give them another try after this season, but I was not pleased at all. The skates feel loose, i feel as though everywhere i want to move my foot, I cant and everywhere I dont want my foot to move, it does. Went back to my FT1s and felt right at home. Has me curious on what to do from here.
did you go back to the retailer you got your True customs from? from personal experience, I got a pair of True customs last year, they didn't feel good, tried to do some tweaking with insoles and remolding but ultimately they made me a new pair free of charge! worth going to your local rep about your SVH customs
Same situation here. The cat 9 is not for vapor or jetspeed users (narrower feet). True is using the same foot mold for all their retail skates, so none of the retail skates work for narrower feet.
@@RideBonesSwiss we've decided to take a look at them after the season to try. But I don't see how they can twerk mine. They just don't feel right. They also had put me in a bigger runner than what I prefer
@@mikeva4127 mine were there SVH custom so fit should have been to my feet at least I would have thought.
@@AustinHiatt you need to go back to the retailer / True. They’ll fix the issue and replace the boots entirely if need be. Customs aren’t always perfect straight out of the box. Sometimes something has to be remeasured or adjusted. No different than when you have a custom suit or any article of clothing made. The plus side is once everything is dialed in, reordering in the future will be perfect
I have the 2nd gen True pro custom skates and I can’t go back to anything else.
Racist
Ever try Grafs?
Cat 7 review please!
Please do a comparison between the tf9 and the cat9
Great suggestion! We’ll work on getting that made
Are you going to review the true svh customs vs the ccm customs
Are you reading my mind ? Lol 10000% coming
Thank you for this clip 👍🏻
But the tongue of the skate isn't too short. Because it makes no sense to wear it over the shin guards!! This is old school style and there is only one player left in the NHL 😂
The kids in the hockey school we learn from the beginning to wear the skates properly and to wear with the tongue under the shin guards...but of course there are always a few exceptions 🤷
only issue is that the skates are plagued with durability issues, not to mention that half the steel on the left skate came crooked from the factories. we warranty quite a few of these due to the durability not being able to compare to CCM or Bauer
Was it just the steel being warped or the entire holder being mounted wrong? In my case, it seems that the left skate holder is mounted at a different angle(back to front) and the blade points outwards.
@@bkdc42 I hadn't heard anything about the holders being mounted bad, for our store it was over 65% of the pairs that had warped left blades, but the holders were fine
You do realize the same kind of issue with incorrectly mounted holders happened to CCM recently too, right? The new Tacks line was recalled from retailers. It happens
I just bought my catalyst 9 skate and the skate blade is so bent that I totally can’t get it sharpen or use it. Now I dk what to do.
Yeah True had issues with their stock steel that comes with the skates but just replace it with JRZ steel ( which is Step Steel but just branded ) or black DLC steel either or . I'd go with the JRZ . You'll be good to go
Easton Makos will always be my go to skate.
Loved those skates
I have the catalyst 7 skates and I love them so much. They are Not as stiff as the 9s
I wish they would do a review on the Cat 7s. I cant stand they only do either top spec retail or pure customs, which unless we are getting them for free, there is no sense to even watch those vids. Im very interested in the 7s and what value they bring over other "mid-tier"/over $400 skates provide. Im not going out to $800 on a pair of skates, thats ludicrous unless I had a kickback or pro-deal etc. Glad to hear you like them. Im also looking at Graf PK4900s which are around $500, so soon I am going to my shop who has both to do a fit comparison.
@@Mike_Jones68 the 7's are pretty much the same skate, using fibreglass instead of carbon. So less stiff, but more value if you're not an elite player getting the absolute maximum out of your skates.
it's tricky because we do videos on what is requested. If we get enough requests, we will make it happen.
How do they fit Sz wise compared to your other skates you have worn?
You can adjust that tonge so it's taller
bro do the bauer vaper 3x
what is happening to the store website?
Working on something 😉 it will be back this week
Plz do Bauer supreme Mach vs M5 Pro
Mach video will come one day lol. I've been saying that for months!
@@HockeyTutorialOfficial ok thank you. Can’t wait to see this video.
Be careful if you tuck the shin guards in and the tongue over. The edges of the skates at the top west down quickly and so does the tongue.
Had custom True skates and they fell apart very quickly. Rivets fall out, glue breaks down and skates look like crap.
You got evidence for that?
What abut warranty?
@@SOSFreezer evidence of what? the fact I saw them fall apart and had to take them into the shop routinely to get repaired.
Ccm 580 tacks
I really enjoy your videos and reviews, but have to say, videos like this one feel kinda unorganized. I really wish Tommy would take 10 minutes to actually research the skates he's going to wear test. And not baking them feels like a crime. Seems like a half hearted review and I feel like the products and your followers deserve better. Just my thoughts.
For real though! Gotta bake em!
You are right bruh😊
Ah yes filming a review for 6 hours for someone to call it halfhearted. Come on man of course constructive criticism is important but don’t say it was half hearted.
@@WhateverIsayIswrongHe is right though, my TF9 were painful unbaked, after baking they’re close to my custom skates. Tommy probably didn’t realise how thermoformable these are. My Bauer Customs barely move when heated.
CCM Tacks is what this Canadian wore.
Graf g7 designed for skaters
I'm not buying anything from True after my awful experience. I ordered a pair of TF7 in size of 7,5 and it appeared they make half sizes simply putting a toe insert into a bigger size. I don't know who can accept the way it feels. Luckily I could send that crap back.
Don't know about the TF skates, but for the Cat9 skates I don't think the foam insert in the toebox is for sizing down the 1/2 sizes. I have been trying on Cat9 skates and all the sizes have the foam toebox insert, including the full sizes.
@@daromani I see, but then I wonder why they do that, cause it gives you an awful feeling. Anyways, I'm totally fine now with my Bauer Mach).
*facepalm*
Super stiff skates: they’re not as stiff as TF9. Stiff tendon guard: they’re quite flexible especially compared to the TF line. Tongue too low: the tongue can be moved up or down easily by the Velcro tab. DID NOT BAKE THE SKATES BEFORE USE?!?! That’s the number one thing you need to do with True skates prior to use. It’s how they’re designed to be used and it says so right in the box when you buy them. If they fit well pre-bake, they’re going to be a minimum half size too big once they’re baked.
Geez. One of the dumbest ‘reviews’ I’ve ever seen with so much misinformation that could easily be found just about anywhere online.
Grew up playing in CCM and Bauer, most recently the second gen 1X before moving to TF9 and now Cat9s so I’m not talking without firsthand knowledge
Agreed. Channel that influential should do better research and deliver nuances, not just first impression of an ill informed first try. True are far from perfect... But then Bauer and CCM and nowhere near True if you happen to have non-average feet that don't fit in "basic fit system".
how do you contrast the tf9 and cat9? now knowing you've owned both of them.
@@AlexSmith-uc8lu the Cats have a lot less volume. That’s the biggest difference I’ve noticed in the handful of games I’ve used them for. Not only in the toes due to the more streamlined toe box, but the overall boot. They are definitely lighter than the TFs and while the Cats are less stiff side by side, I don’t notice a big difference on ice
@@Awingx1 I was never a fan of True in the past as my feet fit in retail skates and I thought they looked ugly. Got a deal on the TF9s shortly after they were released and was blown away by how comfortable they were after baking. Never experienced a skate like that before. From then on I was sold
+ need do right bake
Graf g7
Unless the manufacturers have demo days, most of us will not convert to another brand.
I'd like them to do more of this too. It's just very expensive and difficult to track ROI.
@@HockeyTutorialOfficial I’ve had Bauer since 1983 or there about sand back then CCM didn’t fit well. Things have changed but I’m just not going to switch $1000 skates
Graf 705 > ALL
True's styling is absolutely terrible. Lose that chrome plastic on the side. So tacky. I like the blue they use, but not this yellow on the catalyst.
Yeah but they are kinda ugly, ill stick with my ccm jetspeed
as soon as I heard your accent and you refer to the skate as a boot I'm done. next
Yeah I guess that makes sense...
@@HockeyTutorialOfficial Wow. I’m sorry you had to experience that from someone. This was a great video with great information. It’s a shame some people chose to act like…. That on the internet…
I only wore CCM, my last pair was full custom FT2’s then I tried the True custom after that and my last pair was the True SVH full custom. Don’t think I’ll ever go back to another boot tbh, True full customs are the absolute only way to go
Came from FT1s into the true customs and I absolutely hate my customs. Im back in the FT1s for now
Why do you hate the customs?
@@dkoz1 they feel too big, I can lift my heal off of the sole. Feels like everywhere I want my foot/ankle to move it can't and everywhere I don't want them to move, they do
Interesting. I’m a new skater, and I am thinking about some Catalyst 7’s. The boot itself just looks like it’s my foot lol.
I have Supreme M4s right now, obviously a quality skate, but the ankle/vertical part of the boot is very wide. I have a medium width forefoot (not wide, not narrow), and skinny heel & ankle. No matter how tight I get the Supremes my ankle just feels too loose