Thanks for watching! Is the implementation of Planner in Teams currently too complex? And are these changes enough to make your organization more likely to adopt Planner?
My problem with Planner is definitely not that it's too complex. Au contraire. Since its introduction Planner was more a promise than a really useful tool. After 4 or 5 years since launch they haven't bothered to implement a "mentioning" mechanism to make communication between coworkers more streamlined. And no basic formatting of text (including hyperlinks)! Can you believe it?
Couldn't agree more. Mentions are surely one of the most basic and widely established (and expected) cornerstones of modern day team collaboration, not least around projects.
Thanks for the recap on MSIgnite news. Much appreciated. I started a new job the same week and will probably be catching up with Ignite videos for another month!
It is really funny how everybody is talking about Copilot being for everyone when it is only for big corporation willing to buy at least 300 licenses...
We have been using Task in Exchange Public Folders for over 20 years for Companywide tasks and Projects. I think that Switching to Planner is yet not possible from our perspective. For what I understood it is still lacking of : Multiple Custom Categories for each items (with possibility of cross-view by category and due date), Recurring Expiry Date and other features that made Task in Exchange Shared Folder a key tolls in our organization.
You got something wrong there, i think. Users will not get any free new features into planner. If you'll want features from Project Online, you'll need a license for Project online. Otherwise it'll be basically old planner. You'll have basic planner plan and premium planner plan. Premium requires Project Online license (i think/hope P1 plan). With that you'll get task dependency, gant chart view, milestone and all the good stuff. So they are merging apps, more unified, less platforms to jump between to manage projects, but no free additional functionality.
Possibly you are right. But I haven't seen Microsoft explicitly say this. They do say ' You will be able to enjoy premium experiences* in the new Planner based on your Project plan subscriptions at no additional cost.' '*We will share more about pricing and details for Copilot in Planner in the coming months.' So, it's not entirely clear but I think you are right considering the name change for Project for the Web to Planner.
Hi Russell. We don’t know the pricing for Planner Premium yet (as at Nov 22), but we do know that the Project-type features will be part of the premium subscription. Here is a good reference from the Microsoft 365 channel. m.ruclips.net/video/WACHJS0Slic/видео.html
Can you plan a project for coworkers who are using planner. Push tasks. Make reports of tasks completed and not completed? Make it impossible to remove tasks for reaseeving end of the project?
@@Jimmybfit You can assign tasks to coworkers. And you can export a list of tasks to Excel and then create a report that way, so yes. But I don't think it's possible to stop users removing tasks or modifying them in ways that might be unhelpful. Having said that, Planner integrates with Power Automate so you could create a flow that alerts you if the status of a task changes or gets deleted.
I am wondering if individual Tasks (which I believe will be stored in user mailboxes ongoing) will be integrated and you will see your holistic tasks in 1 place under Planner or if Planner will only be for multiuser/team-based collaboration only?
Tasks by Planner and To Do includes individual tasks (i.e. those you create for yourself in your own to-do list). And I believe the new experience will not change that. But I'm not 100% sure.
Loop is available in too few places. Not in Outlook desktop client, OneNote and other places. Do we get recurring tasks or proper support for non-US dates (that doesn't require editing the Planner URL away from en-us?)
Does any body know if you can have a portfolio of projects belonging to one brand? As in I am managing several projects under one brand but I deal with several brands. Is there a way where you can group projects under one brand and organize the projects accordingly instead just of a list of projects? I dont want to treat each project like its a bucket I want to create a full plan for each project.
Two things Microsoft really need to implement for Planner... 1. Custom field, even if it's only one, just to give you some flexibility for organising tasks on an extra level 2. A custom colour background - the white task cards are sitting on a white background - you can choose one of the jazzy backgrounds, but I just want a flat light grey
I don't like any of the backgrounds provided. They are very distracting IMO. If Planner cards are adaptive cards, then probably it's possible to insert a custom field. But that's not functionality that's surfaced or easy to do today.
Can anyone please let me know if the new Planner will be able to be integrated with Power BI? For two years now I have used many different methods of connecting Planner to Power BI and every one has been either very expensive or a soup sandwich. Thanks.
@ThisWeekinIT A nice round up of Ignite. I like that you skipped most of the AI stuff. It's interesting tech but not affordable or accessable for most orgs. Looking forward to the public preview of device bound Passkeys.
"Not affordable or accessible for most organization" I get what you're saying, but I think those don't that get AI in their organizations early will regret it big time within a few years
Project for the web is becoming 'Planner': 'Current users of Microsoft Project for the web, rest assured, capabilities that you use and love today will continue to be available under the new name, Planner.'
Planner upgrades is great news. Use this every day. But I make a new team for just myself for project management. Would love gantt charts. I don't wanna pay someone just to manage Project for me :p
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Thanks for watching! Is the implementation of Planner in Teams currently too complex? And are these changes enough to make your organization more likely to adopt Planner?
My problem with Planner is definitely not that it's too complex. Au contraire. Since its introduction Planner was more a promise than a really useful tool. After 4 or 5 years since launch they haven't bothered to implement a "mentioning" mechanism to make communication between coworkers more streamlined. And no basic formatting of text (including hyperlinks)! Can you believe it?
Couldn't agree more. Mentions are surely one of the most basic and widely established (and expected) cornerstones of modern day team collaboration, not least around projects.
I was more referring to the implementation in Teams rather than the Planner app itself.
Thanks for info on Planner update. Is M fixing: Comments in Planner tasks should be sent to Teams, not as emails?
Hi Keith. Interesting point. And I don't know the answer.
Thanks for the recap on MSIgnite news. Much appreciated. I started a new job the same week and will probably be catching up with Ignite videos for another month!
Thanks! Best of luck with the new job Darrell!
It is really funny how everybody is talking about Copilot being for everyone when it is only for big corporation willing to buy at least 300 licenses...
So true. Quite a hefty price to
We have been using Task in Exchange Public Folders for over 20 years for Companywide tasks and Projects. I think that Switching to Planner is yet not possible from our perspective. For what I understood it is still lacking of : Multiple Custom Categories for each items (with possibility of cross-view by category and due date), Recurring Expiry Date and other features that made Task in Exchange Shared Folder a key tolls in our organization.
I don't know if Planner labels would work for you instead of categories. You can set multiple labels on a task.
You got something wrong there, i think.
Users will not get any free new features into planner.
If you'll want features from Project Online, you'll need a license for Project online. Otherwise it'll be basically old planner.
You'll have basic planner plan and premium planner plan. Premium requires Project Online license (i think/hope P1 plan). With that you'll get task dependency, gant chart view, milestone and all the good stuff.
So they are merging apps, more unified, less platforms to jump between to manage projects, but no free additional functionality.
Possibly you are right. But I haven't seen Microsoft explicitly say this. They do say ' You will be able to enjoy premium experiences* in the new Planner based on your Project plan subscriptions at no additional cost.'
'*We will share more about pricing and details for Copilot in Planner in the coming months.' So, it's not entirely clear but I think you are right considering the name change for Project for the Web to Planner.
Hi Russell. We don’t know the pricing for Planner Premium yet (as at Nov 22), but we do know that the Project-type features will be part of the premium subscription. Here is a good reference from the Microsoft 365 channel. m.ruclips.net/video/WACHJS0Slic/видео.html
Correct, not free. But current users of Project for the web will see Gantt features (and more) showing up in Planner.
Can you plan a project for coworkers who are using planner. Push tasks. Make reports of tasks completed and not completed? Make it impossible to remove tasks for reaseeving end of the project?
@@Jimmybfit You can assign tasks to coworkers. And you can export a list of tasks to Excel and then create a report that way, so yes. But I don't think it's possible to stop users removing tasks or modifying them in ways that might be unhelpful. Having said that, Planner integrates with Power Automate so you could create a flow that alerts you if the status of a task changes or gets deleted.
I am wondering if individual Tasks (which I believe will be stored in user mailboxes ongoing) will be integrated and you will see your holistic tasks in 1 place under Planner or if Planner will only be for multiuser/team-based collaboration only?
Tasks by Planner and To Do includes individual tasks (i.e. those you create for yourself in your own to-do list). And I believe the new experience will not change that. But I'm not 100% sure.
Loop is available in too few places. Not in Outlook desktop client, OneNote and other places.
Do we get recurring tasks or proper support for non-US dates (that doesn't require editing the Planner URL away from en-us?)
You can set a repeat on a task. Not sure exactly what you mean about non-US dates
Does any body know if you can have a portfolio of projects belonging to one brand?
As in I am managing several projects under one brand but I deal with several brands. Is there a way where you can group projects under one brand and organize the projects accordingly instead just of a list of projects?
I dont want to treat each project like its a bucket I want to create a full plan for each project.
You can certainly create a full plan for each project. Although I'm not quite sure what you mean exactly by 'portfolio of projects'.
Two things Microsoft really need to implement for Planner...
1. Custom field, even if it's only one, just to give you some flexibility for organising tasks on an extra level
2. A custom colour background - the white task cards are sitting on a white background - you can choose one of the jazzy backgrounds, but I just want a flat light grey
I don't like any of the backgrounds provided. They are very distracting IMO. If Planner cards are adaptive cards, then probably it's possible to insert a custom field. But that's not functionality that's surfaced or easy to do today.
Can anyone please let me know if the new Planner will be able to be integrated with Power BI? For two years now I have used many different methods of connecting Planner to Power BI and every one has been either very expensive or a soup sandwich. Thanks.
I don't know. Microsoft Lists has some integration with Power BI I believe. Not sure why Planner is left out.
@ThisWeekinIT A nice round up of Ignite. I like that you skipped most of the AI stuff. It's interesting tech but not affordable or accessable for most orgs. Looking forward to the public preview of device bound Passkeys.
"Not affordable or accessible for most organization"
I get what you're saying, but I think those don't that get AI in their organizations early will regret it big time within a few years
I'm sure subscription copilot will trickle down to under 300 user orgs soon. I'm happy for the enterprise users to bug test it for me!
Right but some organizations just wouldn't be able to stretch to $30/user a month whether they want to or not.
Is this taking over project for the web ?
Project for the web is becoming 'Planner': 'Current users of Microsoft Project for the web, rest assured, capabilities that you use and love today will continue to be available under the new name, Planner.'
@@ThisWeekinIT is there a place when I can read this announcement?
Planner upgrades is great news. Use this every day. But I make a new team for just myself for project management. Would love gantt charts. I don't wanna pay someone just to manage Project for me :p
I believe Gantt charts are on the horizon for Planner!
So, we will have three different packages all called Planner? Shades of the Defender branding.
I think it will be one name but with different capabilities depending on the licence.
We need a dam search bar in planner
Haha it would be good for consistency. Although you can search using the Filter option.