-Defyn: 'Guys I'm gonna just play AWACS this game' -One minute later: 'So I single-handedly surrounded their whole team and these 4 missiles will connect.'
And when the smoke clears there is no point in spotting for a team that already left. And even if someone is still there, he won´t do anything with that information~
Hmmm I just downloaded this free to play game and have no experience whatsoever. Hmm yes I shall buy a $60 premium at 10.3 that seems like a good way to start learning the game when i dont even know what the keybinds for missiles are yet.
My F-4S K/D finally went positive(I was in rank 7 already but needed it to grind SL/RP to clear the tree and Rank 8) since I bought it during the sale, but my win rate is like 20%. I feel like I win a slight majority of downtiers with it but the uptiers are 90% pure pain. Level 6 players buying their first jet and crashing immediately, etc.
Recently someone in my match was complaining in All chat that "Gaijin nerfed the Gripen because no plane can be better than the Su-27". He was negative in the Gripen (and basically every other plane). He also accused me of supporting russian bias because my squadron tag is GOPNK. My palm went out the other side of my skull.
@@williewilson2250 The problem with the su27 is that it perfectly fits the meta of air rb, removing the numbers of the enemy team and having only 2 good players left against your entire horde of j11s and su27. The su27 isnt too hard to counter if your in a 1v1 situation and get lucky with his r73s getting flared. however the same cant be said for your team or you when you are distracted. the su27 is a very easy plane to get the numbers down on the enemy team and is very easy to get wins in the su27 because of this
The Gripen's uncanny ability to kinetically defeat 3-4km AIM-7Ms and maintain a higher speed than the chasing F-15 is terrifying, I don't know what's up with that.
Ikea airframes just built different. Hence is why my 2nd and 3rd favorite jet fighters are Swedish (Viggen and Gripen, respectively). If anyone’s wondering what my #1 favorite jet fighter is…its the F-22A Raptor, because _discretionary spending go brrr._
I do this for 8.7-9.3 And it’s the most frustrating thing to be in a 1v5 for 1/2 the game and still lose because the remaining 6 or 7 enemies that aren’t up my exhaust, ended up killing all 11 of my teammates So I go from 1v5 to 1v3 to 1v8 or 9 So fun
Thanks for the shoutout to Nimbal! I'm a sim player who consumes a lot of RB content and I wish our game mode was more popular (it's not sweaty as people think, you can do well with keyboard and mouse or keyboard and gamepad, and it can have more instant action than RB if you get in the right lobbies)
the gripen is very brain dead. it feels so good to use but everytime i fly it for an extended period of time and then switch to something else i can how much it was letting me get away with bad habits/awareness and less planning because its flight model and amount of counter measures are so forgiving. im not complaining though lmao the previous best plane i had in my tree was the tornado f.3 which i had to use to grind the gripen, and its nice to be the one doing the stomping for once.
It's weird how most people forget the 6 month period after the Danger Zone update where you winning the match hinged entirely on how many F-14s your team had.
Top tier is much much more about positioning and awareness than about your missles and flight preformance. The tactic you showed is pretty effective, but it can get countered by just a guy looking on the TWS/radar screen when flying into battle. That said, not many people do this.
Ive had lots of success doing this, climbing over and dropping irs on people. everyones eyes are just glued on the horizon especially when teams are getting close
I do a similar thing with the Arado C3. Dive at the enemies as they are climbing right at the start and spot all of them long enough for your team to clean them up. I like to call it "climb disruption"
F-84B and G are also perfect for this, just from below. Shallow climb at 800+ kph straight into the enemy’s climb path. Usually good for one kill at the merge and then you bait 3-5 enemies out of their climb, making them easy prey for your team later. Aggressive Thunderjet is untouchable.
@@5olidGoldthe C3 gets the benefit of a true bomber spawn so it can accelerate stupidly fast right at the start F-84s are criminally undertiered though
Most Gripens are also bringing the camera pod so yeah, besides the plane being an UFO, you get spotted 20km beforehand I am in love with this thing and I don't care what anyone says, I will keep playing it
hi Defyn, i have been using a tactic with very high success. Basically, you take the su27 with the ETs, you go right like you do here and climb to just below the contrail altitude (5760m in normal maps, 5200 in volcano map), you can use the radar in TWS to track some people, at about 30km you can change to the IRST and it will see them, then you use the IRST to get the lock with the ETs and you can fire them from about 18km. At this point one of 2 things will happen, either nobody is locking you and you can keep going forward and eventually drop down and get 4 R73 kills; or someone will be locking you and shooting at you, in this case, you launch the 2 ETs and turn around and start chaffing and go low, braindead as all war thunder players they will keep chasing you and after a few seconds you will be at your closer airfield with just one guy on your ass ( the rest always turn for your team), your ETs will 95% of the time hit and net you 2 kills. Often you kill the guy that was locking you, sometimes not, in this case you just go low, drop all your speed and turn around for a cheeky 1.6km R73 launch which is impossible to dodge and flare headon. That is about it, give it a try, i m getting frequent 7 kill games and it is insane how easy this is. Nobody is expecting an ET so early in the match and from such a range they never see it coming and never flare, 18km is quite nutty for an IR missile.
Top teir is going to need Multi Information Distribution System MIDS soon. Modern aircraft tactics share Radar locks. But that would mean the Snail would have to create new “kill assist” model
there is another way to orbital strike you have to spawn in as soon as you can go across the map the fastest out of your entire team before you get to the enemy bases on the left side make sure there is no one in front of you pull straight up and turn right and then head over to enemy team when they are reaching about your bases dive on them and take out as many targets as you want
This is genuinely crazy because I loveeeeee to fly right and actually FIGHT not sleep and wait with everyone on the other side of the map problem is half the time snail doesn’t SPOT the incoming planes but if I had someone to play with that did this (not that I couldn’t myself it’s just I prefer to hug the ground)
I wonder if there should even be a matchmaker anymore. Every country has essentially the same vehicles so they might as well just do mixed battles. Not much would change in terms of battles.
I do this but stay on the ground on the Mirage 2000. No need to notch and you have some kill opportunities, and on top of that, every game, several intellectuals do a 180° and waste 10 missiles or more.
I wish you went more in depth on why you used the targeting pod, I found out from watching closely but it would've been nice for you to explain that aspect more clearly.
@@DEFYN I don't blame you if you're not gonna read all of this but I figured I'd still put it out there since it could still be useful feedback; More emphasis that you need to view through it to spot them, and that you need to keep doing so every now and then to maintain that spotting. Also what kind of information (like distance and vehicle type) is displayed to your teammates and how that helps them pick their opponents. Idk it kinda felt like the targeting pod part got a lil glossed over, I just think it needed more emphasis that you need to have it equipped and used frequently. This video revolves around the targeting pod but it plays less of a role in the video than you having COVID aim. Should also point out that other aircraft have targeting pods and can be played in a similar way as well. Also it feels like, despite it being a support feature, the video was more about how you use said feature to help yourself out, and less about how you use it to help teammates. It's just kinda ironic that the teamplay tactic, still comes off as a lone wolf strategy that's meant to benefit you the most. I think that's just due to your nature of your commentary style but still. Would've been bonus points if you had an example in there where you relied on somebody else or a squadmate doing the AWACS strategy and how that synergizes with you as a teammate. Or just a quick clip showing a teammate's perspective to seeing all the enemy names light up. Overall I think this is a really fun strategy that wasn't entirely done enough justice through this video. I liked the video but I still feel the need to criticize the structuring considering it's such a novel playstyle to me that deserves the spotlight. It felt like a normal gameplay video with the AWACS support concept simply strapped on with duct tape.
I do something similar with the gripen. But instead of killing everyone I go into a turn fight with 6 people which my team will clean up easily. Though sometimes I do get kills like in a 8k game that I lost yesterday.
Finally a CC being honest about what a handholding piece of shit the gripen is. Instead of trying to pretend its just their skill giving them 5 kill games.
I managed to get a six piece the other day in the F-15J, my team still got stomped. Would have gotten in eight piece but I ran out of fuel. Nothing more frustrating.
it's important to specify, I feel, that you shouldn't really climb above 5.1km or so when doing this. otherwise, the contrail you leave will give you away and you'll be slammed by an ER from 30km away. keep it as high as you can without a trail
Check him out and tell m hi for me!
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Thanks for giving him a shoutout, i stumbled upon him recently and fell in love with his videos and felt like they were very underrated.
now you gotta play as a decoy with the A-6E, 4 countermeasure pods and no gun :)
You won't believe what I am about to say
@@DEFYN You absolute madlad, I love it.
@@DEFYN do it or no balls!!!!!!!!!!!!!
EA-6 Growler larp
EA-6
-Defyn: 'Guys I'm gonna just play AWACS this game'
-One minute later: 'So I single-handedly surrounded their whole team and these 4 missiles will connect.'
a wise man once said in all chat "if you go right you're gay" and thus the awacs method succeeds
Legends of War Thunder
Didn't phly just post a video of him going right?
yep@@humzaakhtar9208
drop your pants boy you discovered the secret too early@@humzaakhtar9208
Defyn it's time for a beaufighter video.
It really isnt
@@DEFYNnuh uh
@@DEFYN sounds like youre trying to dodge a missile😂😂
@@DEFYNwhat about bv238? This boat fly's atleast better than a Tornado
@@LordRidler i did rather recently
Nice, now be an awacs for German ground players
Hard to see anything when the entire map is full of smoke
XDDDDDDD
@@DEFYNhahahha
What would that be? Tornado IDS with targeting pod?
And when the smoke clears there is no point in spotting for a team that already left. And even if someone is still there, he won´t do anything with that information~
I swear to god American teams don't get any wins within 28 business days of any sales
Hmmm I just downloaded this free to play game and have no experience whatsoever. Hmm yes I shall buy a $60 premium at 10.3 that seems like a good way to start learning the game when i dont even know what the keybinds for missiles are yet.
@@moriartyholmes8172when the game advertises top tier and people get into the game and r flying ww1 props, that tends to happe
@@moriartyholmes8172 tbh US-teams are bad since 2013 so thats gotta tell you...
My F-4S K/D finally went positive(I was in rank 7 already but needed it to grind SL/RP to clear the tree and Rank 8) since I bought it during the sale, but my win rate is like 20%. I feel like I win a slight majority of downtiers with it but the uptiers are 90% pure pain. Level 6 players buying their first jet and crashing immediately, etc.
@@CsStrezwouldn't it have been better to just buy a talisman on something like the F5E?
Recently someone in my match was complaining in All chat that "Gaijin nerfed the Gripen because no plane can be better than the Su-27". He was negative in the Gripen (and basically every other plane). He also accused me of supporting russian bias because my squadron tag is GOPNK. My palm went out the other side of my skull.
I genuinely have not had a problem with the su27 lmao
@@williewilson2250 As in, playing the Su-27 or fighting against it?
@@williewilson2250 The problem with the su27 is that it perfectly fits the meta of air rb, removing the numbers of the enemy team and having only 2 good players left against your entire horde of j11s and su27. The su27 isnt too hard to counter if your in a 1v1 situation and get lucky with his r73s getting flared. however the same cant be said for your team or you when you are distracted. the su27 is a very easy plane to get the numbers down on the enemy team and is very easy to get wins in the su27 because of this
lol i was in that game i remember him
It’s true, I was the hand
Next: Civilian airliner gameplay, Fw 200 with no bombs or turret
I love American team's supernatural ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
The Gripen's uncanny ability to kinetically defeat 3-4km AIM-7Ms and maintain a higher speed than the chasing F-15 is terrifying, I don't know what's up with that.
Gripen is 20 years younger than F-15, go figure
@@Янус_Ырт US twin engine fighters are speed capped insanely hard
@@dutch24 well, can't deny that F-15 lacks some thrust in WT
Gripen objectively overperforming
Ikea airframes just built different.
Hence is why my 2nd and 3rd favorite jet fighters are Swedish (Viggen and Gripen, respectively).
If anyone’s wondering what my #1 favorite jet fighter is…its the F-22A Raptor, because _discretionary spending go brrr._
15:45 I swear to god this mirage 4K played in an Indian movie
this is the 2024 version of OrangeDoom's "i baited the entire enemy team low video"
Bruh do not 😭
lmaoo
AWACS or ground control radar would be nice for air sim but definitely need bigger maps.
I do this for 8.7-9.3
And it’s the most frustrating thing to be in a 1v5 for 1/2 the game and still lose because the remaining 6 or 7 enemies that aren’t up my exhaust, ended up killing all 11 of my teammates
So I go from 1v5 to 1v3 to 1v8 or 9
So fun
Thanks for the shoutout to Nimbal! I'm a sim player who consumes a lot of RB content and I wish our game mode was more popular (it's not sweaty as people think, you can do well with keyboard and mouse or keyboard and gamepad, and it can have more instant action than RB if you get in the right lobbies)
Ace Combat AWACS had enough of the squadron. Now it's his turn to smack people.
Bandog finally caved in, RIP to a real one.
yep
the gripen is very brain dead. it feels so good to use but everytime i fly it for an extended period of time and then switch to something else i can how much it was letting me get away with bad habits/awareness and less planning because its flight model and amount of counter measures are so forgiving. im not complaining though lmao the previous best plane i had in my tree was the tornado f.3 which i had to use to grind the gripen, and its nice to be the one doing the stomping for once.
The most impressive part of this video isnt the kills. Its being that high up without 37 Aim54s and a dozen R24s/27ERs coming at Defyn.
As if anyone seriously plays the f14
It's weird how most people forget the 6 month period after the Danger Zone update where you winning the match hinged entirely on how many F-14s your team had.
"You have to know when to pull out"
Wise words indeed.
Top tier is much much more about positioning and awareness than about your missles and flight preformance.
The tactic you showed is pretty effective, but it can get countered by just a guy looking on the TWS/radar screen when flying into battle. That said, not many people do this.
Mom can we have datalink at home, We have datalink at home, datalink at home:
Recently I've seen a lot of content challenging the "fly left fly low" meta, it's entertaining.
Ive had lots of success doing this, climbing over and dropping irs on people. everyones eyes are just glued on the horizon especially when teams are getting close
0/10 no giant onion
Lmao
did i miss something about onions?
@@LiamGonzalez-v3r check the previouv tornado video lol
F-14b can also do the 20km spotting without needing a targeting pod though because of tiseo.
I do a similar thing with the Arado C3. Dive at the enemies as they are climbing right at the start and spot all of them long enough for your team to clean them up. I like to call it "climb disruption"
F-84B and G are also perfect for this, just from below. Shallow climb at 800+ kph straight into the enemy’s climb path. Usually good for one kill at the merge and then you bait 3-5 enemies out of their climb, making them easy prey for your team later. Aggressive Thunderjet is untouchable.
@@5olidGold F-84 being that low is a crime. Its literally on same br as 262 ffs.
@@5olidGoldthe C3 gets the benefit of a true bomber spawn so it can accelerate stupidly fast right at the start
F-84s are criminally undertiered though
This is why I always use TWS at the start and report enemy position when I see them going right(our left) or flying high
If only the f16aj had the targeting pod
Fun fact: the Gripen and F-14B can also do this, since they also have targeting pods.
Will this work with Su22 intergal or external pod?
Possibly. Haven't tested. @@alexturnbackthearmy1907
Most Gripens are also bringing the camera pod so yeah, besides the plane being an UFO, you get spotted 20km beforehand
I am in love with this thing and I don't care what anyone says, I will keep playing it
hi Defyn, i have been using a tactic with very high success. Basically, you take the su27 with the ETs, you go right like you do here and climb to just below the contrail altitude (5760m in normal maps, 5200 in volcano map), you can use the radar in TWS to track some people, at about 30km you can change to the IRST and it will see them, then you use the IRST to get the lock with the ETs and you can fire them from about 18km. At this point one of 2 things will happen, either nobody is locking you and you can keep going forward and eventually drop down and get 4 R73 kills; or someone will be locking you and shooting at you, in this case, you launch the 2 ETs and turn around and start chaffing and go low, braindead as all war thunder players they will keep chasing you and after a few seconds you will be at your closer airfield with just one guy on your ass ( the rest always turn for your team), your ETs will 95% of the time hit and net you 2 kills. Often you kill the guy that was locking you, sometimes not, in this case you just go low, drop all your speed and turn around for a cheeky 1.6km R73 launch which is impossible to dodge and flare headon. That is about it, give it a try, i m getting frequent 7 kill games and it is insane how easy this is. Nobody is expecting an ET so early in the match and from such a range they never see it coming and never flare, 18km is quite nutty for an IR missile.
Glad you‘re good and out of Covid
They need to add either data link or make the surveillance aircraft in Sim an AWACS that pings enemies on the map every few seconds
Rounding up the target fixation crowd is always a good plan :) Nice flying!
In my opinion, actually AWACS and datalink might be added in near update; since they are almost necessary to use fox 3s with proper usage properly.
early fox 3s have slightly less range than the ER, current air craft radars have enough range
@@m1995-u4yDL would fix a lot of annoying issues though regarding spotting and shittier top tier radars like the N019 and N001
Top teir is going to need Multi Information Distribution System MIDS soon.
Modern aircraft tactics share Radar locks.
But that would mean the Snail would have to create new “kill assist” model
seeing fast high kill gameplay with the meta strats is the kinda content i enjoy from defyn
-spots entire enemy team
-kills 5 people
-breaks up enemy organization
-loses anyway
america moment
there is another way to orbital strike you have to spawn in as soon as you can go across the map the fastest out of your entire team before you get to the enemy bases on the left side make sure there is no one in front of you pull straight up and turn right and then head over to enemy team when they are reaching about your bases dive on them and take out as many targets as you want
su39 can ir lock with radar pod, r73+radar ir lock can change the gameplay of the su39. Can you make a video about it?
Jesus Defyn after that Inhale video I can’t unhear it anymore please end my misery
I hope more people start doing this, will add some variety and strats to top tier, who am i kidding though the furball will consume all
The T-2 on introduction *almost* matches the Gripen for braindeath.
The T2 was faster than everything but you still had to have a clue on how to play if you were a mediocre player you got nothing done in it
ye
This is genuinely crazy because I loveeeeee to fly right and actually FIGHT not sleep and wait with everyone on the other side of the map problem is half the time snail doesn’t SPOT the incoming planes but if I had someone to play with that did this (not that I couldn’t myself it’s just I prefer to hug the ground)
This is crazy, nice video!
Gripen reminds me the J35D in a long ago, when the AIM-9J had just introduced.
But draken was fragile af then
It had no flares
The fact that I went all the way to the side of the map and still found the entire team
Top 5 AWACS operators Long Caster envies🤯🤯🤯🤯🥶💯💪
Does the spotting only work with thermal pods? This would be a fun strategy with the m4k.
Hey man, got the covid few weeks ago, thought I'd vomit my whole stomach. So hope for you to get a speedy recovery
I wonder if there should even be a matchmaker anymore. Every country has essentially the same vehicles so they might as well just do mixed battles. Not much would change in terms of battles.
Now you got to play the a-10 like a ac130 with too many flares and you can only destroy ground targets
Bro... ❤️
1:20 most top tier thing I ever heard 😂
You gotta do one of those 6x Kill montage synced with some background music
this is where I would put my 6x multi kills...
If i had any
hm that sounds familiar xddd
@@DEFYNlol
@@_Joob Sure is, you're thinking what I'm thinking XD
You can just cycle through the targeting pod and it will still work even its micro second
i wish i had these types of games tbh bc when ever i even try and go above 100m i get locked by a su27 where ever im at
What camera setting are you using allowing you to maneuver while looking around
i came into this thinking you would just spot from space from ground players but damn i didnt even know this existed
I do this but stay on the ground on the Mirage 2000. No need to notch and you have some kill opportunities, and on top of that, every game, several intellectuals do a 180° and waste 10 missiles or more.
hey defyn will you ever make another video on the F-4S?
I wish you went more in depth on why you used the targeting pod, I found out from watching closely but it would've been nice for you to explain that aspect more clearly.
I said it spots people from 20km away and that it gives your team a lot of useful info through this
What else do i need to specify
@@DEFYN I don't blame you if you're not gonna read all of this but I figured I'd still put it out there since it could still be useful feedback;
More emphasis that you need to view through it to spot them, and that you need to keep doing so every now and then to maintain that spotting. Also what kind of information (like distance and vehicle type) is displayed to your teammates and how that helps them pick their opponents.
Idk it kinda felt like the targeting pod part got a lil glossed over, I just think it needed more emphasis that you need to have it equipped and used frequently. This video revolves around the targeting pod but it plays less of a role in the video than you having COVID aim. Should also point out that other aircraft have targeting pods and can be played in a similar way as well.
Also it feels like, despite it being a support feature, the video was more about how you use said feature to help yourself out, and less about how you use it to help teammates. It's just kinda ironic that the teamplay tactic, still comes off as a lone wolf strategy that's meant to benefit you the most. I think that's just due to your nature of your commentary style but still.
Would've been bonus points if you had an example in there where you relied on somebody else or a squadmate doing the AWACS strategy and how that synergizes with you as a teammate. Or just a quick clip showing a teammate's perspective to seeing all the enemy names light up.
Overall I think this is a really fun strategy that wasn't entirely done enough justice through this video. I liked the video but I still feel the need to criticize the structuring considering it's such a novel playstyle to me that deserves the spotlight. It felt like a normal gameplay video with the AWACS support concept simply strapped on with duct tape.
What a great vid bro keep it up ❤
4:05 no wonder why my teammates who have the Su-27 go with 10 really good missiles but end up with 0 missiles and 1 kill mid game 🤦♂️ 💀
He's done it, he's broken the meta
It is so fucking funny seeing now so many people try this out and just fail miserably getting smashed by bvr missiles
Isnt the F-14B the best Awacs since it gets the targeting pod without equipping the targeting pod? So 720 flares 8 AAM and awacs
I do something similar with the gripen. But instead of killing everyone I go into a turn fight with 6 people which my team will clean up easily. Though sometimes I do get kills like in a 8k game that I lost yesterday.
Can you revisit the German premium G.91 R/4 with the BR changes? 8.7 is amazing now
Can you play the VG33 ? This plane is surprisingly fun for a French plane. 😁
Probably because they are only about average aircraft for their Br😕...
so your job is to enable the team to recreate that scene from independence day where all the jets fire off their missiles
6:45 Defyn giving helpful insider tricks and tipps
That last part is probably Defyn's best XDDD.
Finally a CC being honest about what a handholding piece of shit the gripen is. Instead of trying to pretend its just their skill giving them 5 kill games.
The f105d will always be available
is the gripen as braindead as the m1 when it was released?
do you think i can use this tactic in the italian AMX?
We need Playing as an AWACS, part 2 😂❤
so many players think the high tier missiles will play the game for them
I managed to get a six piece the other day in the F-15J, my team still got stomped.
Would have gotten in eight piece but I ran out of fuel. Nothing more frustrating.
Did you kill your doppelgänger Spit_flyer?
Shoud've cut to Vsauce's "I didn't really die"
Defyn what happend to the last footage
One of the best video endings so far
how can I download the skins you use in your videos, I really like the red design
all the bug reports and still the blurry litening ii for the 16c
the ending💀
did they patch this? i even laser focused a guy who i could physically see outside the usual spotting range and it refused to spot him.
Hey can you please share your controls also how much does the lighting 2 pod hinders the f16c performance. Is it worth it to take it for spotting.
i dont understand how you get so far ahead of literally everyone on your team
I’ve actually been using this strat in my J11 bc Immean it has the best missiles so yea. And it isn’t surprising to get like 6 kills with ir missiles
So you did what the F-14 could do with the TARPS pod.
when do we get the sword decal
it's important to specify, I feel, that you shouldn't really climb above 5.1km or so when doing this. otherwise, the contrail you leave will give you away and you'll be slammed by an ER from 30km away. keep it as high as you can without a trail
I did specify tho :^)
the contrail on warmer maps starts at 5.4-5.6km alt
"akctualy"
@@DEFYN*”actually”
@@konigsegg_1to1ya mama
10:41 is hands down the best part
we need actual AWACS ai planes for atleast top tier sim battles, now do the EA-6 Growler no balls
You should play the mig-3-34 with the 2x sHVAKs at 2.7
Gripen is not braindead lmao. Basically everything else get more missiles = win. However it is really good.
It is almost like this video is 8 months old
@@DEFYN Damn you reply fast.. ikr😅i just had to comment and protect my grippy. Keep up the quality work i really enjoy the videos!
Defyn what do you think about trying out the G8N1?
I'd say this has a high fun factor even if it's a bit RNG.