i live in HK where we have more electric cars than any country in the world per capita. I have a Tesla P100D i drive in and out of China, it’s one year old and falling apart, pieces of trim are falling off inside and it’s been back to the garage continually for over heating problems. The technology is brilliant the execution leaves much to be desired. i have driven the i pace it is much more refined than the Tesla, i’m happy to give up the extra performance you can’t use in the Tesla for the quality and finish of the jaguar.
I have owned two Jags over the years. Both in the XJ family. OK, so I bought them used, but they were ostensibly in "good condition". Both gave me endless problems - nothing really major, but enough to get rid of them within 2 years of buying them. After the second one was as bad as the first, I decided never to buy another Jag. ALL marques produce the occasional "lemon", and Tesla is no exception. Would I buy this iPace? Definitely not... it lacks the advanced technology and electronics now evident in the Model-3 (by way of example), which is in practically all respects a far more advanced car, and (with FSD and the Tesla Network on the visible horizon), it likely to appreciate in value in years to come. Drive this Jag off the showroom floor and it depreciates instantly by 15%. Like all traditional automakers, Jag cannot (yet) make these at a profit... so there's a good possibility (after reporting a £2bn LOSS in 2018) that this iPace may just be a flash in the pan, and in 5 to 6 years from now, the only Jags you will see will be in dusty motor museums.
Very good review ! I ordered an I Pace HSE several months ago ...with an expected delivery date of 12/2018. Can't wait to get my hands on it. Best regards from across the pond !
Hi Pete Thanks for this great review... my lovely wife has a E pace at the moment and she wants the I pace next so I’ve forwarded her this video...... I know she will love it and get one next. Thanks mate catch up tomorrow with ya vlog
Ped. I picked one up. Jag had a campaign with a free pod point charger. We still have our C200d for long motorway journeys a few times a month. It’s a HSE with air ride suspension. Can’t complain. So happy with it. It’s had all the updates so infotainment is not too slow. Mostly use apple car play anyway. Light regen is a must as the brake pedal can be mushy and unresponsive at first when pressed a few inches. Love your review though.
Great video and I need to change my S3 soon and being a big Audi fan I was considering RSQ3 but I'm leaning towards the i pace now .It would have to be second hand of course ,Your comments make me want an i pace even more which is what Jaguar want and helps you borrow more cars for your channel !! Good for you and thanks again
Hi Petro Ped, your I-Pace review video is probably the BEST one on the Internet right now. Well balanced first impression video. I have recently ordered an I-pace and would like to share my reasons to choose it over a Model X: 1) Warranty and after sales service: I-Pace 5 years bumper to bumper, 8 years battery and drive unit. Tesla 4 years and 8 years. I-Pace comes with FREE 5 years annual services and road assist. Tesla has NO free annual service and 4 yaers road assisit. Jaguar has 46 dealerships around Australia. Everyone is equipped to repair and service the I-Pace. Tesla has 4 service centres. The next Jaguar service is just 10 mins away from me. The next Tesla service is 70 mins away. (Gold Coast, Australia) 2) Price: I-Pace starts at $133k. Model S starts at $145K and Model X starts at $153k 3)Off Roading: I-Pace can go off road, climb hills, drive on the beach, in the desert etc. Fully covered by factory warranty. Tesla voids your warranty in the moment you leave the tarmac. Australia has many beautiful places that a Model X can not go just due to warranty issues. 4)Performance: I-Pace 0-100 in 4.5Sec. Same spec for ALL versions. Tesla Model X Long Range does it in 4.9 Sec. More importantly, you can go full throttle with the I-Pace every time and any time. If you do that to the Model X, you will hear a groaning noise from the front suspension. Do it again and again, your front suspension will suffer big time. So no tracking for Model X any time soon. 5)Charging: The I-Pace can be charged at ALL charging stations except Tesla Superchargers. This also includes all Tesla Destination Chargers. I tested 15 destination chargers around my town and almost every one works without adapter. For those that do not work, there is a cheap locally made adapter called TeslAnything. In the next 2 years, 80% of new public DC Fast Chargers will be on CCS2 Combo standard. ALL current Teslas on sale in Australia will NOT be able to charge from those stations. If they are lucky, they will be using chademo adapters to charge from them. They are limited to 50 KW only. ALL major Australian car dealerships will have their own DC fast Charger installed at their dealership soon. None of them will be having chademo, only CCS2. 6)quality: This one is well known so I won't go into details. Workmanship and component quality of the I-Pace is a magnitude better than any Teslas I have seen and driven in person.
your big problem with EVs is the thing TSLA solved a long time ago, intelligent route based range planning... it helps to have your own charging network I guess.
@@johnmason5626 does it work with CarPlay/android auto? that's how you can use it to navigate and charge on road trips with an EV without intelligence (the car's, not the driver's!)
Sasquatch 2001 No, the way to use ABRP is to let it calculate your route with charging stop and then to export the route to Google Maps or Apple Maps (if you are an iPhone user). That way to can use CarPlay or Android Auto
Lovely looking car, had a look at one this morning whilst dropping my car off for a service and MOT. Unfortunately still outside my price range. Have also heard elsewhere that there is quite a wait to get one as Jaguar had no previous sales numbers and the demand has outstripped the numbers being built . Still I suppose as demand increases prices may start being more realistic for the majority of people.
Dude, the first modern and viable all electric car was actually the Nissan Leaf, not Tesla, T came much later. The old industry is not shaken up either, most cars by a wide margin are still combustion.The other carmakers will come back with a vengeance soon and then good night Tesla with their crappy quality!
I thank Tesla, like the Model 3, had one on order, test drove the I-Pace, love at first sight, it sits up off the ground and drives wonderfully. In California, with Federal government tax rebate and dealer incentives and discounts, my new I-Pace cost me about the same as a Tesla Model 3 Performance. Yes, without Tesla this car would not have been made!
Lovely looking car, great to see Jag getting into EV...but. Try get it through a 6 6 restriction...also take in to consideration the turning circle of just under 12m
I brought an e pace r dynamic se and starting to think i made the wrong choice. Hmmm, I mean the E pace is great but that's the future of the automotive industry
No mention of the recalls and battery fires. Have they stopped using the LG cells. I would like to see one driven hard around the track until it stops just to see how it handles the heat.
Very nice review. The SE with the 20” is the one we have ordered. I agree with the Tesla fan base that the charging network of Tesla is way better. I live in the Netherlands. There are alot of public charges available. Only long trips will requier planning.
Wow, what a wonderful review and car. I have been looking forward to this all electric Jaguar coming out for ages, I know that I would suffer from range anxiety big time at the moment but I think that the infrastructure will move on very quickly and there will be a lot more charging stations popping up everywhere. Just need a lotto win now!
Simon You should carry out an *honest* mileage audit. Just note each journey mileage for 2 months.that will tell you if you *actually* need the range. Recent (UK) studies actually showed over 90% of journeys are well within the range of most EV's.
Hi and thanks for your reply, i am waiting for Jaguar to finish the android app to do just that. They have one up and running for apple phones to assess the savings that you would have on your car journeys, i am sure i would save a lot as i have solar panels on my roof as well.
Great review. Thanks! The i-Pace is the kind of vehicle that will sway more and more ICE drivers over to the electric propulsion world. It looks great, has some badge snobbery to justify it's high price and, with that kind of torque and ride quality, it performs the way a car-loving person would want. I've driven a friend's Model S P100D and it's ludicrous mode was eye-popping. But it's massive weight concerned me as to how it would perform in icy conditions when it's mass would work against it when slowing down. All that torque absolutely destroys tires-something the general driving public doesn't think about until it too late, like when they hit a wet or icy patch and go flying. The regen braking was so intuitive I found it very easy to get used to and the silence made it incredibly easy to concentrate on my driving lines. EVs are the future and it's just around the corner. They just so silent most people can't hear them coming yet.
Yep, I drove the Tesla Model 3 and I hated its regenerative braking and ugly minimalistic interior with my desktop pc monitor as its center console and geezer light oak dashboard. On the other hand, I test drove the Jaguar iPace and the interior is beautiful and guess what, it looks like a car interior! I would buy the Jaguar, the ride is also nicer (not bumpy firm like the Tesla).
Great review! I have a First Edition on order. Ordered it on launch day, expecting handover on Boxing Day, so they definitely sold well! I managed a test drive finally a couple of weeks ago, and was blown away by it. I see a lot of "never replace a V8" comments, but as a real petrol head myself (my last car was a 5.5 litre V8), I'd just say that you need to drive it to get it. Jag have done an amazing job, and I can't wait for Christmas!
Abu Dhabi Dude I agree. Decided that I would get the first edition as soon as I saw it in person, a carshow in Berlin I believe. Think mine will be arriving in November, really stoked! What spec did you go with?
Hope you are on a great bonus from jaguar because you are the first review that really sold me the car not sure the buying part would be for me yet due to the lack of charging stations being the reason id say the leasing for 24 months the way to go havnt had the chance to drive one as yet but I will nearer the time my pcp runs out on my present car
Your planning starts at going with 100% when you leave home or work and use the onboard navigation like always. It takes 2 second to fill up your car, you plug it in and you plug it out.
The re Gen is the same feeling as the exhaust brakes on the trucks. The BMW hybrid we had a for a couple of days was very weird like you say. It was astonishing on its pick up.
Just changed from an S4 Avant to an I-Pace HSE. Still have the S4 for a little while and when you drive them back to back the S4 feels gutless. The I-Pace feel so much more responsive with truly monstrous torque available at any speed. I’ll still miss the S4 though.
Thanks for this John. I plan to change my S4 for a Tesla Model Y next year so will be in a similar position. The I-Pace is still one of my favourite EVs though 👍
Just picked up the Ipace today 21 inch wheels with kevlar inserts looks like a bat mobile, went for upgraded metalic glitter paint, would have preferred a bigger space as traded in my old 2006 ml320, feels like something out of the Tron movie 😎 hoping the UK charge network keeps getting better 🤞wasn't sheap at £87k but get the hmrc tax right off against my company profits 🏆
Tesla's don't have range anxiety because THEY WERE THE FIRST TO OFFER 200 MILE AND 300 PLUS MILES WHEN OTHERS WERE OFFERING 50 TO 110 MILES Tesla's are also 25% more efficient than the I pace and the modle 3 is cheeper
John W Tesla used to have trouble with fit and finish in the body work getting better now but the quality of the vehicle is very good if you want to know how good don't talk to Fanboys talk to owners Tesla has a 90% approval rating for the last 2 years the highest of any car company
John W the most advanced car in the world with over the air updates so no matter what model you buy it improves overtime they have their own superchargers which nobody else has they can improve the stopping distance through the internet and you want to talk about no cup holders in the back seat and no lights on the visor mirrors one moving part in the motor and no transmission you can't see that as a maintenance milestone the reason people are paying the higher price for a Tesla is because they recognized this is car 2.0 and it is very undervalued they would have grabbed it now before Eli knows what he has and UPS the price
Both Jaguar and Tesla use a G-Sensor for the brake lights. So, if your regen is slowing your car beyond a certain value, like .1G's, the brake lights will turn on automatically.
Love the opinion, and it does look great. My only concern would be like you if you got caught short for charging. Yes plan ahead but when you get to the charging station you've chosen what if there are 3/4 cars in the same boat. Just not figured that one out yet.
That's where Tesla do things really well. Their Sat Nav not only tells you where the nearest charge station is but also how many chargers there are and how many are being used. A brilliant feature :-)
Hi Peter, It's been a while hope your well. I must admit this is a stunning looking car and if I had the cash I would look at this car. Best Wishes Alan B
Have this car ( owned for just under a year) and in general very happy with it . Best I have managed in all electric mode is 36 miles. My general runs are either around town which I do in all electric mode or round trips of just over 100 miles mpg averages between 76 and 84 mpg ( depending upon weather, the colder the weather the less all electric range). Charge the car overnight using Economy 7.
It should be noted that a standard Tesla Model S 75d is £68, 000 Plus the paint colour, premium interior pack and similar wheels to the Jag, (already has the sunroof) brings the Tesla to almost exactly the same price as the Jag spec you have. (without the government discount) However you do get the 300 mile range. PLUS, I believe that if you acquire a referral code from a current owner, (easily done) you can still get FREE supercharging for one year after purchase (!) NOTE! IF you did normally fill up at home (£13.) "Every night".... but used free supercharging instead, that would save you approximately £4, 700 over the year!
Thanks for the info. V interesting. The £13 per night was assuming you use your entire battery every day. Otherwise it will only charge what is required to 'fill' the battery.
Nice review, i had the I Pace for a testride and i have to say it´s a real drivers car. I have also driven a Model S but the I Pace is the better car on my opinion. What do you think about the energy consumption of the I Pace?
More Ziggi fiction on here. And people care about energy consumption as that affects the range. With the Jaguar struggling to break 220 to 230 miles on a 90kWh battery, that becomes a huge factor when a Model S can travel 294 on 90kWh and a Model 3 can travel 310 miles + on 75kWh. Interestingly enough, it appears that Jaguar USA has dropped the official range from 240 to 234 miles of range now. Sadly, on U.S. roads, one can expect closer to 200 driving at highway speeds.
@Ziggi Mon Chevy Spark EV was cheapest car you could buy in the USA in 2015 for total cost of the first 5 years of ownership. What you save on gas and repairs makes up for the higher cost of the EV. Not disagreeing with you about luxury market cars, just EVs in general are not more expensive per mile and even Tesla's save $100 per month in fuel cost (compared to our Chevy Spark) which lets you afford a bigger loan. I think the average other costs for ICE cars is about another $1000 per year (average, mostly smaller costs but every so often a huge cost). So an EV wold have to cost a lot more than a comparable ICE car to cost more per mile over the life of the car. Tesla's do not cost more than their ICE competition and so are a great bargain if you want that level of car.
@@redbaron6805 I-Pace real world range - 253 miles. Tesla Model S 75D - 204 miles. www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-6337871/New-test-reveals-far-electric-cars-REALLY-travel-charge.html
@@agt155 That's a fake, coming of course from a UK website.... 100 % of the tests confirm that the iPace has a really poor efficiency. At speeds between 58 mph et 68 mph for example, the I-PACE showed an average consumption of 22.5 kWh/100 km. The Model X 17.5 kWh... cleantechnica.com/2018/10/31/tesla-model-x-vs-jaguar-i-pace-its-all-about-efficiency/ fr.motor1.com/reviews/282222/voitures-electriques-quelle-est-leur-veritable-autonomie/?RSS&RSS-all-
An excellent review... For me it`s the first time i have not felt the need to doze off while watching anything to do with an EV, it`s certainly a looker and i do quite like the sound it makes, but at 70k! we are still a few years away before these sort of vehicles become an affordable alternative to tempt the majority of new car buyers away from the excellent petrol/diesel cars we already have....Then you will be needing a new name....EV Ped?
I believe that there's an extended range version coming out soon too; up to 320 miles on a charge....or over 400 kms. It's simply devilishly delicious looking!
Unless they are finding totally different batteries somewhere, there is no more room for a longer range. Based on current efficiency of around 370W per mile, they would need a battery pack of 120kWh with zero weight penalty. There are zero chances that capacity as available for this car in the next 5 years, if not 10.
Great review and nice looking car. One thing though, you had no review on ‘fuel’ economy ? Most car reviews do talk about how fuel efficient a car is. The iPace alas is very ‘fuel’ inefficient which is a shame (for an EV). How much energy you use = your range = recharging. Jag have designed a great car but with a large battery like that, it’s too heavy which means it’s very inefficient for an EV, when compared to other EVs.
Yeah, so far it appears the efficiency is very low compared to at least the Tesla's. The I-Pace is less efficient per mile than all 3 Tesla models, the X, S and the 3. Unfortunately this shows up in the poor range numbers also. A Tesla Model S 75D, which is larger than the I-Pace, actually has a longer range (249 miles), with a battery that is supposedly 20% smaller. There really is no excuse for the I-Pace to struggle to break 220 miles real life with a 90kWh battery, especially since a larger Model S 90D can reach close to 300 miles with that battery.
Worth noting that as a demonstrator every person who gets in it puts the pedal to the metal. The predicted full charge range is therefore lower. In the real world a range of over 250 miles is realistic.
sorry for asking silly question ,just a novice getting interested in purchasing a ev does the car has neutral or not my context is like ,sometimes on downslide of mountain journey it was easy to save fuel while going down by keeping car in neutral can we take advantage of something like that in it
In an EV when you lift off you get even better than running in neutral, you get regenerative braking so you put some charge back into the battery pack 👍
I-pace/e-tron/eqc if you’re into well built cars but the motors will have less performance/range Or the tesla if you’re into performance/range but it doesn’t matter to you if wind/rain comes through the door gaps
I love the Jaguar, and the only thing that stops me from converting from my Model X to a Jaguar, or any other EV, is the idea of not having access to the Tesla Superchargers. I just can't stand the thought of having different subscriptions and membership cards. In a Tesla you just need to put in your destination, and the car tells you where you need to stop and charge (for free).
I agree...although it not always free is it ? I thought now you only get a certain number of miles per year free. 2000 in the UK I think ? I know that is a lot :-)
Petrol Ped If you bought an X or S in the past, you got free supercharging for life. If you used someone's referral code when you bought your car, you would have gotten free supercharging for life as well. The model 3 non-performance version does not have free supercharging, but Tesla is only charging you basically local electricity rates, so you're still going to save a lot of money over gas. This is one place where I think Porsche is screwing up. They've said that they want to make an EV fillup at one of their special fast chargers cost as much as a tank of gasoline - that's insane.
Colin Fox yep, charge at Tesla pay $0.20/kwh. Charge at Porsche pay $1.20/kwh. Who cares? If you can afford a Porsche, you can afford to over pay for fuel.
Every Model S and X sold until 2017 automatically gets free supercharging for life, and all after that get the charging for free with a code. They are making some changes in late 2018 for cars going forward, I haven't seen the details ironed out yet, but no cars with previous Supercharging for life are affected.
I do like the iPace but yesterday I had very little “range” left, so I went to my local petrol station, 5 mins later I had 425 miles of range. I know people say while it’s charging you go fo a coffee or visit the loo but its still going to be an hour on a fast charger, if you can find one. Until the charging infrastructure dramatically improves ill stick with a normal engine/ filling station. Choice, iPace £73k or RS4 £65k, leaves a few grand for refuelling.
On the other hand, if you arrive home at the end of the day "with little range" and then find out you have a look long run, say 150 miles, in the morning, you have to make a special trip to a fuel station to fill up. Any EV is already "full" every morning. So assuming a motorway is involved, an EV would be 15-20 miles in front of you before you finished fuelling.
It also depends on who is paying for the car. I would not be able to afford £75,00 for a Tesla Model X, but my company can, because it means the company will not be paying £10k to £15k of corporation tax for the next few years. But that only works if the company purchases an Ultra Low Emmision Vehicle (ULEV) And I no longer pay £300 a month for "fuel" (which others have told me has increased recently, so it might be £400/month now?) and I don't pay a tenner a day when I go into Central London, or have to pay a £5/hour to park a petrol car or £/7.50/hour for a diesel and I don't pay as much Benefit in Kind as someone driving a fossil powered car. and it was quite pleasant doing 3,000 miles around France and Spain with the children over the school holidays, and not paying, but I did have to stop and use the loo and get a coffee after every 3 or 4 hours of driving I haven't seen (or noticed) many RS4 recently, can you buy them at the moment? I know the Audi boss is still in prison and the court will not let him out at the moment, in case he destroys evidence. Perhaps that might be part of the problem why VW and Audi "forgot" to do the WLTP paperwork so that they would be allowed to sell any cars?
Great review Pete. To be honest the range on the Jag would worry me on a long journey especially as there are so few truly rapid chargers about that aren't Tesla branded. At the moment my V90 gives me all the day to day I need on electric only but allows longer journeys, especially the trips to the south of France without worrying. Sort the charging thing out though and it becomes a totally different ball game.
That is a challenge for sure. I must say it is also one of the things Tesla do really well, as you can see in the car sat nav where the charging station are and also how many stations are in use :-)
Despite all the negative comments before its even fully launched . I expect it to do very well just like the f pace . So give it a chance at least its got the jump on its competitors
Did you buy the iPace yet? A while back whilst waiting for the iPace to arrive I got some advice from Chris Bowring; he said simply buy the Macan GTS and then go electric in 2 years time when things have settled a bit. I’ve now driven the iPace and like it best but wondered if more level headed people like yourself had jumped as I worry about depreciation either because of advances in battery technology or economies of scale reducing the EV prices. Maybe leasing would help but I’d be really really interested in your view.
Another great review 👍 I’ve really been toying with the idea of getting an EV and this has now become a contender - I suppose the worry is that technology is moving at such a pace (no pun intended 😜) that I worry it’ll be out of date the minute I take delivery... not to mention freefall residuals -I guess leasing is the way to go.
I'm curious about the "out of date" claims. The car will still function as a car, even if something better comes along. If you only need 100 miles of range and it comes with 200, does having 300 make it better? The only cars that I have seen with free fall residuals have been the short range EV's, under 100 miles of range. At least in the USA, the Tesla's have held their values remarkably well, and better than most ICE models.
Red Baron interesting point re the Tesla residuals, I think most Americans have a really strong patriotic streak (which is to be admired) and want Tesla to thrive (and of course the product is market leading) so demand will be strong and as they are rare in the uk, residuals will be strong. But if you look at an early BMW i3 - they have taken a huge hit. I guess its the unknown of how long the battery life will be, how the battery degradation will affect range etc. You make a good point about range though, if you do need only 100 miles of range, then an early ev could be viewed as a bargain - especially if you live in a city with punitive emission charges. I’m still not sure ....
All early EV's with short range took a huge hit. Long range EV's haven't taken any hits yet, but then again, Tesla has been the only game in town, except for the Bolt which arrived around a year ago. The i3 is a short range EV, so no surprises really there. I don't think Tesla value has to do with a patriotic streak, as much as maybe scarcity. There has simply been sustained demand for used Tesla's that as so far exceeded the used market. Battery life in Tesla's has actually been excellent so far, and is forecast to stay that way, as seen here: teslarati.com/tesla-battery-life-80-percent-capacity-840km-1-million-km/ On average, it appears that Tesla's lose around 1% annually or every 25,000 miles or so. We don't have punitive emissions charges in the USA, so that has not been a factor so far either. Cars are not taxed based on emissions like in Europe over here, so except for a one time purchase tax credit, there are no ongoing incentives to speak of.
In the future, the I-Pace will support 100kW DC Fast Charging. Right now it only supports half of this at 50kW. Contrast this charging time with the Tesla Supercharger network. Also you didn't try out any of the driving assistance functions and that's too bad because they fall short of expectations at this price level imho. That said It looks good and goes like hell so if that floats your boat and you have some cash to throw around it's a great buy i guess.
If the tests so far are any indication, the I-Pace currently maxes out at 80kW of charging. It appears to be due to the 200A current limit (200A at 400V). This may change in the future, but regardless of if you have a 100kW or 150kW charger, the max is 80kW so far. That doesn't change the fact however that most fast chargers for the I-Pace out there are only 50kW, and many will not even reach the max 50kW.
I still think they have got the pricing totalling wrong. You wouldn't spend that much money on a car to tootle around town in. It needs to be a viable commuter to enable you to get further and home again on a single charge and it falls short. If it were £35k-£45k, they'd have a winner and a real competitor to the Tesla Model 3.
@@PetrolPed hmmm, not really, when they have the XE rep mobile. They cover a wide spectrum and the I-Pace should have firmly been mid-range and that is where they were originally pitching it.
You can't buy a Model 3 for £35,000-£45,000 and won't be able too, they'll never sell it that cheap! At present you pay $60,000+ in the USA The $35,000 price tag was a gimmick.
Sofala - The Model 3 Long Range is $49,000 in the USA today. My brother bought one last week, and he paid $49,000. The price is Model 3 $35,000, Long Range Battery Option, $9,000, Premium Package, $5,000 = $49,000
Great video Pete. What a stunning Jag! Being a total petrol head, I always thought that electric /hybrid cars would be a poor substitute for good old petrol power. Just lately though my mind is changing!! Have you ever driven a Prius out of interest?
What was the range drop like when sat on the motorway at 70 ? Please do a winter ev review in Jan Feb and see how close you can get to manufacturers claimed range. I suspect it will only be about 50%
Not bad considering you were driving like a journo :) I guessing a winter range of about 120 then. 1L of fuel is about 10kw and EV are about twice as efficient as a combustion engine so it's the same as living with your S4 but never putting more than about 4 gallons in the tank in terms of energy/efficiency/anxiety ratio.
@@MiniEggs1999 I used half a tank of gas in the KIA Sorrento I borrowed just driving a few miles in the city and about 40 miles on the highway. That I-pace could probably do around 400 miles in the city... Gas powered cars are just ridiculously bad to the point I am angry at the car companies for treating all its customers like suckers. Now we find out that the emissions are something like 40 times what was claimed for ICE cars due to the nonsensical testing used. Apparently they test at optimal conditions and rpms. If you accelerate at all or drive up hills then the emissions shoot up. Get a reasonable average for normal driving and the results are crazy higher than the numbers stated officially. Gas powered cars cannot go away fast enough.
Interestingly I've just bought a used I-Pace SE '68 plate for £47K. It has exactly the same spec as your test car. I feel I have a great car at a great price. Thanks for the video. PS the Jaguar upgrade now gives me 256 miles range in Eco mode.
@@PetrolPed all the EVs here come with just the 110 volt you take but it looks like having that second cable saves the companies installing the chargers a ton of money as they don't have to pay for that to be installed. Makes so much sense!
Paul with most EV its one petal driving but some makers make you use a separate paddle or button you press to get Regen braking. YES, the brake lights come on when Regen braking. in fact the TESLA shows brakelighs activating on the BIG Tesla screen.
I have an SE on order due next March and I agree with everything said in your report from my test ride, it is very exciting to drive The only thing from the pictures in the report showed 100% charged with circa 240 miles as Jaguar state 292 I accept that 292 might not be achieved due to circumstances but I would have expected 100% = 292 as a display £66k after the government grant is a lot of dosh, but I have to stop myself thinking I am not worthy of the outlay so long as it does not break the bank
You will be lucky to get 180 on the highway if your doing 70mph. Ipace is extremely inefficient. Its less efficient than the model x which is much larger (space 1650 liter vs 2500 liter, weight 2133kg vs 2500kg).
Yeah, real life tests with a full battery, like Bjorn Nyland did, the range is only between 200 and 220 miles real world. No one will ever get anything close to 292. Real life, expect 230 best case scenario. I have seen multiple real life range tests so far, and everyone so far is getting between 230W to 250W per Km, or around 370W per mile or more. Since the usable capacity has been measured at around 81kWh, real life range is very close to 220 miles. So, if someone is expecting anything close to 300 miles of real life range, they will be pretty disappointed. Bjorn Nyland's tests were done at around 56Mph or 90KMh, so not exactly high speed driving. Probably means sub 200 mile range in the USA where the speed limit is normally 70Mph or 112KMh.
So many directions they could take this. Imagine a low two seat sports car with low frontal area and drag coefficient. Two motors, one for each of the rear wheels, allowing instant torque control with no diff. Double wishbonds all round. Bit like the original Tesla I suppose but design and tech has moved on a bit since then. Or a jacked up no compromise electric defender offroader. Massive wading depth due to no air inlet or exhaust. Massive torque. Maybe a smaller motor for each wheel.
Can anyone throw any light on servicing? I-Pace needs servicing annually and the deal is £999 for 3yr Is it just me or does that seem a lot for just plugging it in to diagnostics and then glancing at pads & tyres?
I think the I-Pace will be very attractive to people who would choose a Tesla EV over other brands EV's. I think this is a great alternative to Tesla and very stylish for an EV. Great review Ped!
It would be a competitor if not for the lackluster range. A Model S 75D, which is larger, faster, quicker, more efficient and with a longer range is also cheaper, and it has air suspension standard. It can also charge faster at home (7.5 hours instead of 13.5 hours), and faster on the road, 120kW vs Jaguar is currently maxed out at 80kW, with a far larger charging network. So, although I think the Jaguar is a compelling car in many ways, it does not really compare favorably to Tesla in almost every category.
Model 3 fully loaded 330 mile range is $50,000. Easy decision for me. Ipace is nice but too complicated. Wish would be $50k range with charging network like Tesla. :(
Sure, but have you seen the inside of the model 3? It’s like a toy car with a laptop screen in the middle. At least the Jag has style and looks like real car on the inside
paul elliott counting the number of switches and buttons does not make a car, you missed the idea w it’s the minimal interior which is what appeals to the half million which have already ordered one
@@dmomcilovic9185 Yup. The screen in the model 3 is extremely intuitive and responsive. So much better than the buttons and knobs in a traditional car. I remember when people hated the virtual keyboard on an iphone. Look how that turned out.
Hi Pete, Thanks for this excellent review. I have to say that I am already planning my next vehicle, having only just taken delivery of my current one, back in July 2018, my last 3 ltr desiel. I have made the decision to purchase an EV, but not until the range is at least 300 miles (400 would be better). I do accept your recommendations on the subject of route planning and to this end I am already doing this as a precursor to going EV in the future. It is somewhat of a chore at present, but I am sure the availability of charging points will improve quite quickly.
+Stewart UK The Tesla 100D has a range of 331 miles EPA but these cars are expensive. The cheaper Model 3 with the long range battery (the only type they currently make) has a range of 310 miles but is only available in the US at present.
Dogphlap Thanks for the reply. I’ve got some time now to consider my future options and hopefully things on the EV front will develop favourably over time. At least I hope they will.
the model 3 is going to be at least £40-45k for the basic trim when it hits our shores....plus i'd worry with aftersale care....not too many tesla dealerships about..... but if you drive more than 200 miles in one go, then, really, for safety sake, you should have a half hour break- perfect to top of the battery whilst you are fetching and drinking your coffee....
@@iainansell5930 £45k? $35k.... ÷1.3 (exchange?) X 1.2 (vat) = £32k.... + On the road costs, minus any government rebate. How do you get £45k? Even if you add shipping cost.
I'm not ready to jump into the electric wagon as of yet. If it was possible for someone to make a request to Jaguar I would ask for this body shape given the Turbo four Engine in the F-type and turn this into the ultimate hot hatch. IT is beautiful. It is a really beautiful car.
Jag's temp stopping of production due to battery shortage does vindicate Tesla's decision to build a dedicated battery factory. They were mocked for doing so by legacy makers but it clearly makes sense. Investing in charging network is also paying off in spades.
Can regen be set to be 'progressive', or is it just full regen or no regen? Seems like you'd want something that isn't like driving with the hand break on. Maybe a setting where you lift, and the longer you're off the accelerator, the more regen you get. From the sounds of things, currently you get 100% regen as soon as you lift. I'd think it would be more desirable to have something like 0%-25%-50%-75%-100% depending on how long you lift or on some other factor(s). It seems to me that regen that comes on gently would be more appealing to more people, and you could always give drivers the option to choose pick what they like - none, progressive, full. Thanks.
Hi Ped Interesting review and food for thought in certain areas. Styling wise have to disagree with you, I hate the back end. Interior looks good however. Driving experience sounds promising, and as you say going to have change some perceptions. At present I could not be tempted to change from my SQ5, why, I need to tow, and the dreaded diesel fits the bill. Coming down to Goodwood with a triple axle trailer with 2 vintage cars, 310 miles in a day and 27.4 mpg. I rest my case.
Great review very infrormative. Torn between this and a tesla but you may have just tipped tye balance . Only single thing i would pick you up on was the 13 quid a charge vs a whole tank at 70 odd pounds as the range of charge is far less than a equivalent tank of fuel . You did look sexy in the car though . 0 to 60 in 4.1 was highly impressive and the interior was juicy . Something satisfying about charging the car up and certainly futuristic thats for sure . I also think the roof was a must at under 1k . Yes i do like it . I think one would have to be carefull not to get carried away with the extra options though. At say 130 quid for 2000 miles and in turn 1300 for 20000 and 13000 for 200k its really a no brainer compared to petrol at lets say 40mpg mixed so what 6 pounds per gallon 60 pounds for 400 600 for 4000 . 6000 for 40000 and then 30k pounds for 200k miles so there you have a 27k saving already and thats not accounting for petrol going up then factor in congestion charge and tax and although a bigger outlay in the long run its really not so bad then yes the grant . Maintenance is less i hear also . I must ask though as i drove a few myself . Do you find them lets say diffrent handling wise ? I did in a mix between a sort of go cart and a computer game but in a rather pleasent way really
For a car that size you are talking 24MPG with mostly highway driving. My Chevy Spark (tiny, low drag) gets 33MPG mixed. I drove a Kia Sorrento 40 miles on the highway and maybe 10 in the city and it used half a tank of gas! On the other hand, in the city, EVs get crazy good range... EV maintenance is brakes around 100,000 miles, tires, and cabin air filter changes and I think that is about it. Gas cars I think you spend an average of $1000 per year in maintenance (smaller most years, larger a few times = the average) If I remember the numbers correctly.
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i live in HK where we have more electric cars than any country in the world per capita. I have a Tesla P100D i drive in and out of China, it’s one year old and falling apart, pieces of trim are falling off inside and it’s been back to the garage continually for over heating problems. The technology is brilliant the execution leaves much to be desired. i have driven the i pace it is much more refined than the Tesla, i’m happy to give up the extra performance you can’t use in the Tesla for the quality and finish of the jaguar.
Finally, a Tesla owner that will admit the build quality could be better ;-)
The I-Pace is really well put together.
Of course. Jaguar was building cars 35 years before Elon Musk was born. They know how to do it.
I have owned two Jags over the years. Both in the XJ family. OK, so I bought them used, but they were ostensibly in "good condition". Both gave me endless problems - nothing really major, but enough to get rid of them within 2 years of buying them. After the second one was as bad as the first, I decided never to buy another Jag. ALL marques produce the occasional "lemon", and Tesla is no exception. Would I buy this iPace? Definitely not... it lacks the advanced technology and electronics now evident in the Model-3 (by way of example), which is in practically all respects a far more advanced car, and (with FSD and the Tesla Network on the visible horizon), it likely to appreciate in value in years to come. Drive this Jag off the showroom floor and it depreciates instantly by 15%. Like all traditional automakers, Jag cannot (yet) make these at a profit... so there's a good possibility (after reporting a £2bn LOSS in 2018) that this iPace may just be a flash in the pan, and in 5 to 6 years from now, the only Jags you will see will be in dusty motor museums.
Tesla has really bad build quality. Jaguar is a high end real car manufacturer.
You cant use the performance if its laid up in the garage anyway!
Peter needs to be hired by mainstream media for automotive reviews, they're so comprehensive and enjoyable! great video as always
Cheers John. Kind of you to say :-)
Very good review ! I ordered an I Pace HSE several months ago ...with an expected delivery date of 12/2018. Can't wait to get my hands on it. Best regards from across the pond !
Wow...cool ! Enjoy the new wheels when they arrive :-)
Lovely balanced review. Jaguar have done an excellent job and I sincerely hope that they reap the rewards of it!
I think it will sell well :-)
Hi Pete
Thanks for this great review... my lovely wife has a E pace at the moment and she wants the I pace next so I’ve forwarded her this video...... I know she will love it and get one next. Thanks mate catch up tomorrow with ya vlog
Ped. I picked one up. Jag had a campaign with a free pod point charger. We still have our C200d for long motorway journeys a few times a month. It’s a HSE with air ride suspension. Can’t complain. So happy with it. It’s had all the updates so infotainment is not too slow. Mostly use apple car play anyway. Light regen is a must as the brake pedal can be mushy and unresponsive at first when pressed a few inches. Love your review though.
Great video and I need to change my S3 soon and being a big Audi fan I was considering RSQ3 but I'm leaning towards the i pace now .It would have to be second hand of course ,Your comments make me want an i pace even more which is what Jaguar want and helps you borrow more cars for your channel !! Good for you and thanks again
Hi Petro Ped, your I-Pace review video is probably the BEST one on the Internet right now. Well balanced first impression video.
I have recently ordered an I-pace and would like to share my reasons to choose it over a Model X:
1) Warranty and after sales service: I-Pace 5 years bumper to bumper, 8 years battery and drive unit. Tesla 4 years and 8 years. I-Pace comes with FREE 5 years annual services and road assist. Tesla has NO free annual service and 4 yaers road assisit. Jaguar has 46 dealerships around Australia. Everyone is equipped to repair and service the I-Pace. Tesla has 4 service centres. The next Jaguar service is just 10 mins away from me. The next Tesla service is 70 mins away. (Gold Coast, Australia)
2) Price: I-Pace starts at $133k. Model S starts at $145K and Model X starts at $153k
3)Off Roading: I-Pace can go off road, climb hills, drive on the beach, in the desert etc. Fully covered by factory warranty. Tesla voids your warranty in the moment you leave the tarmac. Australia has many beautiful places that a Model X can not go just due to warranty issues.
4)Performance: I-Pace 0-100 in 4.5Sec. Same spec for ALL versions. Tesla Model X Long Range does it in 4.9 Sec. More importantly, you can go full throttle with the I-Pace every time and any time. If you do that to the Model X, you will hear a groaning noise from the front suspension. Do it again and again, your front suspension will suffer big time. So no tracking for Model X any time soon.
5)Charging: The I-Pace can be charged at ALL charging stations except Tesla Superchargers. This also includes all Tesla Destination Chargers. I tested 15 destination chargers around my town and almost every one works without adapter. For those that do not work, there is a cheap locally made adapter called TeslAnything. In the next 2 years, 80% of new public DC Fast Chargers will be on CCS2 Combo standard. ALL current Teslas on sale in Australia will NOT be able to charge from those stations. If they are lucky, they will be using chademo adapters to charge from them. They are limited to 50 KW only. ALL major Australian car dealerships will have their own DC fast Charger installed at their dealership soon. None of them will be having chademo, only CCS2.
6)quality: This one is well known so I won't go into details. Workmanship and component quality of the I-Pace is a magnitude better than any Teslas I have seen and driven in person.
Really interesting. Thank you :-)
your big problem with EVs is the thing TSLA solved a long time ago, intelligent route based range planning... it helps to have your own charging network I guess.
not in Berlin
Just download A Better Route Planner app. It’s easily as good as Tesla’s nav system
@@johnmason5626 does it work with CarPlay/android auto? that's how you can use it to navigate and charge on road trips with an EV without intelligence (the car's, not the driver's!)
Sasquatch 2001 No, the way to use ABRP is to let it calculate your route with charging stop and then to export the route to Google Maps or Apple Maps (if you are an iPhone user). That way to can use CarPlay or Android Auto
Great review, very informative & a car I would consider. Electric car, especially Jag is brilliant
Cheers, glad you enjoyed it :-)
Lovely looking car, had a look at one this morning whilst dropping my car off for a service and MOT. Unfortunately still outside my price range. Have also heard elsewhere that there is quite a wait to get one as Jaguar had no previous sales numbers and the demand has outstripped the numbers being built . Still I suppose as demand increases prices may start being more realistic for the majority of people.
I believe you would be looking at Feb next year if you order one now !
Noticed the rear window blind spot is pretty bad 🙈
Great work Pete as always. I enjoy your channel and content and presenting style! 🙌👍
Cheers Stephen :-)
If Tesla had not shaken up the old industry, this car would not have been developed
I agree :-) What they have done in such a short timeframe is amazing !
no its the government regulation that's pushing car makers to make ZEV. Nothing to do with Tesla.
Dude, the first modern and viable all electric car was actually the Nissan Leaf, not Tesla, T came much later. The old industry is not shaken up either, most cars by a wide margin are still combustion.The other carmakers will come back with a vengeance soon and then good night Tesla with their crappy quality!
sadly Tesla cars also shake themselves to pieces and a proper car firm is needed to produce quality EVs.
I thank Tesla, like the Model 3, had one on order, test drove the I-Pace, love at first sight, it sits up off the ground and drives wonderfully. In California, with Federal government tax rebate and dealer incentives and discounts, my new I-Pace cost me about the same as a Tesla Model 3 Performance. Yes, without Tesla this car would not have been made!
Lovely looking car, great to see Jag getting into EV...but. Try get it through a 6 6 restriction...also take in to consideration the turning circle of just under 12m
I brought an e pace r dynamic se and starting to think i made the wrong choice. Hmmm, I mean the E pace is great but that's the future of the automotive industry
You should go and drive one. you could do a trade in next year ;-)
No mention of the recalls and battery fires. Have they stopped using the LG cells. I would like to see one driven hard around the track until it stops just to see how it handles the heat.
Very nice review. The SE with the 20” is the one we have ordered. I agree with the Tesla fan base that the charging network of Tesla is way better. I live in the Netherlands. There are alot of public charges available. Only long trips will requier planning.
Fantastic review pal. Enjoyed this. Thankyou as always.
My pleasure Bud :-)
ginggur17 - I've heard of people "photo bombing", but not "message bombing" :-))
Wow, what a wonderful review and car. I have been looking forward to this all electric Jaguar coming out for ages, I know that I would suffer from range anxiety big time at the moment but I think that the infrastructure will move on very quickly and there will be a lot more charging stations popping up everywhere. Just need a lotto win now!
Gotta be in it to win it :-)
Simon
You should carry out an *honest* mileage audit.
Just note each journey mileage for 2 months.that will tell you if you *actually* need the range.
Recent (UK) studies actually showed over 90% of journeys are well within the range of most EV's.
Hi and thanks for your reply, i am waiting for Jaguar to finish the android app to do just that. They have one up and running for apple phones to assess the savings that you would have on your car journeys, i am sure i would save a lot as i have solar panels on my roof as well.
Looking forward to its release in Australia, though there will be more 'range' issues with topping up. Thanks for a marvellous review!
Cheers Pauline. Glad you enjoyed it :-)
Great review. Thanks! The i-Pace is the kind of vehicle that will sway more and more ICE drivers over to the electric propulsion world. It looks great, has some badge snobbery to justify it's high price and, with that kind of torque and ride quality, it performs the way a car-loving person would want. I've driven a friend's Model S P100D and it's ludicrous mode was eye-popping. But it's massive weight concerned me as to how it would perform in icy conditions when it's mass would work against it when slowing down. All that torque absolutely destroys tires-something the general driving public doesn't think about until it too late, like when they hit a wet or icy patch and go flying. The regen braking was so intuitive I found it very easy to get used to and the silence made it incredibly easy to concentrate on my driving lines. EVs are the future and it's just around the corner. They just so silent most people can't hear them coming yet.
I think the new Audi eTron will shake things up too 👍
Yep, I drove the Tesla Model 3 and I hated its regenerative braking and ugly minimalistic interior with my desktop pc monitor as its center console and geezer light oak dashboard.
On the other hand, I test drove the Jaguar iPace and the interior is beautiful and guess what, it looks like a car interior! I would buy the Jaguar, the ride is also nicer (not bumpy firm like the Tesla).
Ah, but will it keep up with my Kona Electric 64kwh lol!!!! Great review as always, keep them coming.
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Great review! I have a First Edition on order. Ordered it on launch day, expecting handover on Boxing Day, so they definitely sold well! I managed a test drive finally a couple of weeks ago, and was blown away by it. I see a lot of "never replace a V8" comments, but as a real petrol head myself (my last car was a 5.5 litre V8), I'd just say that you need to drive it to get it. Jag have done an amazing job, and I can't wait for Christmas!
Many comments criticising EVs are from people who’ve never driven one 😜
Enjoy your new car 👍
Abu Dhabi Dude I agree. Decided that I would get the first edition as soon as I saw it in person, a carshow in Berlin I believe. Think mine will be arriving in November, really stoked! What spec did you go with?
I am waiting for mine also, I am selling my model S, I am sick of the constant quality problems.
luk Sorry. Only just saw your question. I went with Corris Grey with the 22” carbon insert wheels and oyster interior.
@@hkwhopper yea right, you never owned one
Hope you are on a great bonus from jaguar because you are the first review that really sold me the car not sure the buying part would be for me yet due to the lack of charging stations being the reason id say the leasing for 24 months the way to go havnt had the chance to drive one as yet but I will nearer the time my pcp runs out on my present car
Thanks for the positive feedback. I'll let Jaguar know ;-)
But if you travel between 200 km to 300 than good
Your planning starts at going with 100% when you leave home or work and use the onboard navigation like always.
It takes 2 second to fill up your car, you plug it in and you plug it out.
I like your thinking :-)
Do love your car reviews mate 😉 Very nice looking car but I do love full petrol cars Pete..Looks like a cross between a saloon and SUV.
I know, I just want to bring some thought provoking stuff to you too :-)
A fantastic review on what looks to be a fantastic car
Cheers Adam :-)
Tis! Had mine now 2 weeks and I can confirm the "fantastic car" tag. Just a pity T4 restrictions is keeping my mileage low.
The re Gen is the same feeling as the exhaust brakes on the trucks. The BMW hybrid we had a for a couple of days was very weird like you say. It was astonishing on its pick up.
It looks brilliant!
That's a great idea. By the way love your reviews, loved the one in the SQ7. Can't wait to hear what you think of my favourite new car the Audi Q8
Just trying to get hold of one now. Sae my first on the road this week and it looked lovely :-)
Just changed from an S4 Avant to an I-Pace HSE. Still have the S4 for a little while and when you drive them back to back the S4 feels gutless. The I-Pace feel so much more responsive with truly monstrous torque available at any speed. I’ll still miss the S4 though.
Thanks for this John. I plan to change my S4 for a Tesla Model Y next year so will be in a similar position. The I-Pace is still one of my favourite EVs though 👍
Great honest review keep it up fella
Cheers. Glad you enjoyed it :-)
For longer journeys in the UK, 90%+ of motorway services have a charger for the Jag.
It’s a pity Spain is lagging behind in the EV arena. I’d love to get one.
Really great review as always, jag clearly have stepped up their game which is great to see. So when will we see you change to electric ped 😉
Later this year hopefully 👍
Just picked up the Ipace today 21 inch wheels with kevlar inserts looks like a bat mobile, went for upgraded metalic glitter paint, would have preferred a bigger space as traded in my old 2006 ml320, feels like something out of the Tron movie 😎 hoping the UK charge network keeps getting better 🤞wasn't sheap at £87k but get the hmrc tax right off against my company profits 🏆
Tesla's don't have range anxiety because THEY WERE THE FIRST TO OFFER 200 MILE AND 300 PLUS MILES WHEN OTHERS WERE OFFERING 50 TO 110 MILES Tesla's are also 25% more efficient than the I pace and the modle 3 is cheeper
Your Caps Lock stuck on ;-)
@@PetrolPed You wrote a smiley face. 8-)
John W Tesla used to have trouble with fit and finish in the body work getting better now but the quality of the vehicle is very good if you want to know how good don't talk to Fanboys talk to owners Tesla has a 90% approval rating for the last 2 years the highest of any car company
lol, talking about mileage is boring. Imagine a combustion engine car video talking about mileage, boring!
John W the most advanced car in the world with over the air updates so no matter what model you buy it improves overtime they have their own superchargers which nobody else has they can improve the stopping distance through the internet and you want to talk about no cup holders in the back seat and no lights on the visor mirrors one moving part in the motor and no transmission you can't see that as a maintenance milestone the reason people are paying the higher price for a Tesla is because they recognized this is car 2.0 and it is very undervalued they would have grabbed it now before Eli knows what he has and UPS the price
What do the brake lights do when regenerative braking? In traffic, do they come on if you're not using the brake pedal?
They come one when regen braking kicks in :-)
Both Jaguar and Tesla use a G-Sensor for the brake lights. So, if your regen is slowing your car beyond a certain value, like .1G's, the brake lights will turn on automatically.
Yes they do
Love the opinion, and it does look great. My only concern would be like you if you got caught short for charging. Yes plan ahead but when you get to the charging station you've chosen what if there are 3/4 cars in the same boat. Just not figured that one out yet.
That's where Tesla do things really well. Their Sat Nav not only tells you where the nearest charge station is but also how many chargers there are and how many are being used. A brilliant feature :-)
One of the best EV Vehicles on sale and I would recommend It
Hi Peter, It's been a while hope your well. I must admit this is a stunning looking car and if I had the cash I would look at this car. Best Wishes Alan B
Hi Alan. Hope all is well :-)
Have this car ( owned for just under a year) and in general very happy with it . Best I have managed in all electric mode is 36 miles. My general runs are either around town which I do in all electric mode or round trips of just over 100 miles mpg averages between 76 and 84 mpg ( depending upon weather, the colder the weather the less all electric range). Charge the car overnight using Economy 7.
Sorry comment below is in respect of PHEV Hyundai
LOL...I did a double take at first. Thanks for sharing :-)
It should be noted that a standard Tesla Model S 75d is £68, 000 Plus the paint colour, premium interior pack and similar wheels to the Jag, (already has the sunroof) brings the Tesla to almost exactly the same price as the Jag spec you have. (without the government discount)
However you do get the 300 mile range.
PLUS, I believe that if you acquire a referral code from a current owner, (easily done) you can still get FREE supercharging for one year after purchase (!)
NOTE! IF you did normally fill up at home (£13.) "Every night".... but used free supercharging instead, that would save you approximately £4, 700 over the year!
Thanks for the info. V interesting. The £13 per night was assuming you use your entire battery every day. Otherwise it will only charge what is required to 'fill' the battery.
Nice review, i had the I Pace for a testride and i have to say it´s a real drivers car. I have also driven a Model S but the I Pace is the better car on my opinion. What do you think about the energy consumption of the I Pace?
I'd like to have one for much longer, then I could answer your question more accurately. When you push in it goes down much more quickly !
More Ziggi fiction on here. And people care about energy consumption as that affects the range. With the Jaguar struggling to break 220 to 230 miles on a 90kWh battery, that becomes a huge factor when a Model S can travel 294 on 90kWh and a Model 3 can travel 310 miles + on 75kWh.
Interestingly enough, it appears that Jaguar USA has dropped the official range from 240 to 234 miles of range now.
Sadly, on U.S. roads, one can expect closer to 200 driving at highway speeds.
@Ziggi Mon Chevy Spark EV was cheapest car you could buy in the USA in 2015 for total cost of the first 5 years of ownership. What you save on gas and repairs makes up for the higher cost of the EV. Not disagreeing with you about luxury market cars, just EVs in general are not more expensive per mile and even Tesla's save $100 per month in fuel cost (compared to our Chevy Spark) which lets you afford a bigger loan. I think the average other costs for ICE cars is about another $1000 per year (average, mostly smaller costs but every so often a huge cost). So an EV wold have to cost a lot more than a comparable ICE car to cost more per mile over the life of the car. Tesla's do not cost more than their ICE competition and so are a great bargain if you want that level of car.
@@redbaron6805 I-Pace real world range - 253 miles.
Tesla Model S 75D - 204 miles.
www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-6337871/New-test-reveals-far-electric-cars-REALLY-travel-charge.html
@@agt155 That's a fake, coming of course from a UK website.... 100 % of the tests confirm that the iPace has a really poor efficiency.
At speeds between 58 mph et 68 mph for example, the I-PACE showed an average consumption of 22.5 kWh/100 km. The Model X 17.5 kWh...
cleantechnica.com/2018/10/31/tesla-model-x-vs-jaguar-i-pace-its-all-about-efficiency/
fr.motor1.com/reviews/282222/voitures-electriques-quelle-est-leur-veritable-autonomie/?RSS&RSS-all-
Excellent balanced review thank you.
My pleasure Paul. Glad you enjoyed it 👍
Pre empting the road is what makes the difference to the brakes as ya know, that’s exactly how we drive the big rigs economically.
Glad Jaguar has produced this car so I don't have to buy a Tesla. Lots of jaguar dealers and very few Tesla. Thanks for sharing your experience.
My pleasure. It’s a really competent car 👍
Hi Pete, superb review.
Cheers Ron :-)
Wheels filmed with movement remind me of the Xr3i doglegs. Very nice car Ped.
An excellent review... For me it`s the first time i have not felt the need to doze off while watching anything to do with an EV, it`s certainly a looker and i do quite like the sound it makes, but at 70k! we are still a few years away before these sort of vehicles become an affordable alternative to tempt the majority of new car buyers away from the excellent petrol/diesel cars we already have....Then you will be needing a new name....EV Ped?
Thanks Peter, kind of you to say. The E-Golf is pretty good :-)
I believe that there's an extended range version coming out soon too; up to 320 miles on a charge....or over 400 kms. It's simply devilishly delicious looking!
Yep, that is my understanding too :-)
Unless they are finding totally different batteries somewhere, there is no more room for a longer range.
Based on current efficiency of around 370W per mile, they would need a battery pack of 120kWh with zero weight penalty.
There are zero chances that capacity as available for this car in the next 5 years, if not 10.
Great review and nice looking car. One thing though, you had no review on ‘fuel’ economy ? Most car reviews do talk about how fuel efficient a car is. The iPace alas is very ‘fuel’ inefficient which is a shame (for an EV). How much energy you use = your range = recharging. Jag have designed a great car but with a large battery like that, it’s too heavy which means it’s very inefficient for an EV, when compared to other EVs.
Sorry I didn't mention this. Just a time thing ;-)
Yeah, so far it appears the efficiency is very low compared to at least the Tesla's. The I-Pace is less efficient per mile than all 3 Tesla models, the X, S and the 3.
Unfortunately this shows up in the poor range numbers also. A Tesla Model S 75D, which is larger than the I-Pace, actually has a longer range (249 miles), with a battery that is supposedly 20% smaller.
There really is no excuse for the I-Pace to struggle to break 220 miles real life with a 90kWh battery, especially since a larger Model S 90D can reach close to 300 miles with that battery.
Worth noting that as a demonstrator every person who gets in it puts the pedal to the metal. The predicted full charge range is therefore lower. In the real world a range of over 250 miles is realistic.
Shouldn't be any concerns about range and charging on long journeys. Check out Zap Map UK website for charge point locations across the country.
Great tip :-)
At least with the front boot it gives you somewhere to keep the charging cables separate from the rest of your luggage.
Good idea :-)
you sound like half glass full guy
cheers mate
Saw this car a couple of months ago.. a guy not far from here apparently trains mechanics from all over on this vehicle.. ;) in Sweden.
2nd time of watching but when you show the cables that come with the car why is the 1st cable yellow on the car end and black on the other end?
I recently purchased a 2019 jaguar i pace HSE first edition, and I love it! Thanks!
Great car 👍
Congratulation on your I-Pace.
Bought one myself last November, already has 7300 km on the odo, done a long trip to Germany and so far love it.
sorry for asking silly question ,just a novice getting interested in purchasing a ev
does the car has neutral or not
my context is like ,sometimes on downslide of mountain journey it was easy to save fuel while going down by keeping car in neutral
can we take advantage of something like that in it
In an EV when you lift off you get even better than running in neutral, you get regenerative braking so you put some charge back into the battery pack 👍
I-pace/e-tron/eqc if you’re into well built cars but the motors will have less performance/range
Or the tesla if you’re into performance/range but it doesn’t matter to you if wind/rain comes through the door gaps
LOVE THIS !
I love the Jaguar, and the only thing that stops me from converting from my Model X to a Jaguar, or any other EV, is the idea of not having access to the Tesla Superchargers. I just can't stand the thought of having different subscriptions and membership cards. In a Tesla you just need to put in your destination, and the car tells you where you need to stop and charge (for free).
I agree...although it not always free is it ? I thought now you only get a certain number of miles per year free. 2000 in the UK I think ? I know that is a lot :-)
Petrol Ped If you bought an X or S in the past, you got free supercharging for life. If you used someone's referral code when you bought your car, you would have gotten free supercharging for life as well. The model 3 non-performance version does not have free supercharging, but Tesla is only charging you basically local electricity rates, so you're still going to save a lot of money over gas. This is one place where I think Porsche is screwing up. They've said that they want to make an EV fillup at one of their special fast chargers cost as much as a tank of gasoline - that's insane.
Colin Fox yep, charge at Tesla pay $0.20/kwh. Charge at Porsche pay $1.20/kwh. Who cares? If you can afford a Porsche, you can afford to over pay for fuel.
The Jag also tells you where to stop and charge. There's already the option to buy included fast-charging, in some markets.
Every Model S and X sold until 2017 automatically gets free supercharging for life, and all after that get the charging for free with a code.
They are making some changes in late 2018 for cars going forward, I haven't seen the details ironed out yet, but no cars with previous Supercharging for life are affected.
Beautiful car, Peter.
Way out of my price range.
I’m happy with my little hybrid (new Swift).
Good review.
Cheers Darren :-)
I do like the iPace but yesterday I had very little “range” left, so I went to my local petrol station, 5 mins later I had 425 miles of range. I know people say while it’s charging you go fo a coffee or visit the loo but its still going to be an hour on a fast charger, if you can find one. Until the charging infrastructure dramatically improves ill stick with a normal engine/ filling station. Choice, iPace £73k or RS4 £65k, leaves a few grand for refuelling.
Great point :-)
On the other hand, if you arrive home at the end of the day "with little range" and then find out you have a look long run, say 150 miles, in the morning, you have to make a special trip to a fuel station to fill up.
Any EV is already "full" every morning.
So assuming a motorway is involved, an EV would be 15-20 miles in front of you before you finished fuelling.
Peter Leighton
You could also choose a Model S 75d with *300* mile range, *free* supercharging for a year and the same, or better spec (😉)
It also depends on who is paying for the car.
I would not be able to afford £75,00 for a Tesla Model X, but my company can, because it means the company will not be paying £10k to £15k of corporation tax for the next few years. But that only works if the company purchases an Ultra Low Emmision Vehicle (ULEV)
And I no longer pay £300 a month for "fuel" (which others have told me has increased recently, so it might be £400/month now?)
and I don't pay a tenner a day when I go into Central London, or have to pay a £5/hour to park a petrol car or £/7.50/hour for a diesel
and I don't pay as much Benefit in Kind as someone driving a fossil powered car.
and it was quite pleasant doing 3,000 miles around France and Spain with the children over the school holidays, and not paying, but I did have to stop and use the loo and get a coffee after every 3 or 4 hours of driving
I haven't seen (or noticed) many RS4 recently, can you buy them at the moment? I know the Audi boss is still in prison and the court will not let him out at the moment, in case he destroys evidence. Perhaps that might be part of the problem why VW and Audi "forgot" to do the WLTP paperwork so that they would be allowed to sell any cars?
Roger Starkey I wouldn’t buy a Tesla, drivetrain ok, interior for a £75-100+k car is terrible, very cheap and not a patch on an Audi.
Superb presentation and content
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it :-)
Apparently the I-Pace is a credible off-roader too!
I heard that. It is clearly no Defender but I'd love to give it a go !
Great video thank you so much. One question with the regenerative braking how much juice goes back in the battery approx?
I am not sure to be honest 🤔
Great review Pete.
To be honest the range on the Jag would worry me on a long journey especially as there are so few truly rapid chargers about that aren't Tesla branded. At the moment my V90 gives me all the day to day I need on electric only but allows longer journeys, especially the trips to the south of France without worrying.
Sort the charging thing out though and it becomes a totally different ball game.
I have a PHEV on test in a couple of weeks time :-)
Public chargers in you country,
Great Video Review. The New Jaguar I-Page Is a driver's car. I saw one a few months ago In the Jaguar Dealership In Leeds
Hello Pete, how was your Goodwood Revival? Which day did you go? What was you favourite race? mind was the Saint Mary's race on Saturday!
Fab thanks. Went on Sunday and it's always the TT :-)
So what do you do if you have planned your trip, checked where the charging points were, but then discovered them all in use?
That is a challenge for sure. I must say it is also one of the things Tesla do really well, as you can see in the car sat nav where the charging station are and also how many stations are in use :-)
Yea but my country govt and company provided charge station for all brands
Despite all the negative comments before its even fully launched . I expect it to do very well just like the f pace . So give it a chance at least its got the jump on its competitors
I agree Stevie :-)
Did you buy the iPace yet?
A while back whilst waiting for the iPace to arrive I got some advice from Chris Bowring; he said simply buy the Macan GTS and then go electric in 2 years time when things have settled a bit. I’ve now driven the iPace and like it best but wondered if more level headed people like yourself had jumped as I worry about depreciation either because of advances in battery technology or economies of scale reducing the EV prices. Maybe leasing would help but I’d be really really interested in your view.
I loved the cat but I'm not sure I'm ready to buy one just yet. However, I'd love a Macan GTS...simply brilliant car !
+Petrol Ped wait for the taycan
Nice but too far off. I’ve got two ageing unreliable BMWs and need something now. The lead times on both Porsche and Jag are already of concern to me
Another great review 👍 I’ve really been toying with the idea of getting an EV and this has now become a contender - I suppose the worry is that technology is moving at such a pace (no pun intended 😜) that I worry it’ll be out of date the minute I take delivery... not to mention freefall residuals -I guess leasing is the way to go.
Could be, book a test drive and then if you still like it you can start looking at options :-)
I'm curious about the "out of date" claims. The car will still function as a car, even if something better comes along. If you only need 100 miles of range and it comes with 200, does having 300 make it better?
The only cars that I have seen with free fall residuals have been the short range EV's, under 100 miles of range.
At least in the USA, the Tesla's have held their values remarkably well, and better than most ICE models.
Red Baron interesting point re the Tesla residuals, I think most Americans have a really strong patriotic streak (which is to be admired) and want Tesla to thrive (and of course the product is market leading) so demand will be strong and as they are rare in the uk, residuals will be strong. But if you look at an early BMW i3 - they have taken a huge hit. I guess its the unknown of how long the battery life will be, how the battery degradation will affect range etc. You make a good point about range though, if you do need only 100 miles of range, then an early ev could be viewed as a bargain - especially if you live in a city with punitive emission charges. I’m still not sure ....
All early EV's with short range took a huge hit. Long range EV's haven't taken any hits yet, but then again, Tesla has been the only game in town, except for the Bolt which arrived around a year ago. The i3 is a short range EV, so no surprises really there.
I don't think Tesla value has to do with a patriotic streak, as much as maybe scarcity. There has simply been sustained demand for used Tesla's that as so far exceeded the used market.
Battery life in Tesla's has actually been excellent so far, and is forecast to stay that way, as seen here:
teslarati.com/tesla-battery-life-80-percent-capacity-840km-1-million-km/
On average, it appears that Tesla's lose around 1% annually or every 25,000 miles or so.
We don't have punitive emissions charges in the USA, so that has not been a factor so far either. Cars are not taxed based on emissions like in Europe over here, so except for a one time purchase tax credit, there are no ongoing incentives to speak of.
Red Baron Thanks for the info, certainly looks like the Tesla is the safest bet
In the future, the I-Pace will support 100kW DC Fast Charging. Right now it only supports half of this at 50kW. Contrast this charging time with the Tesla Supercharger network. Also you didn't try out any of the driving assistance functions and that's too bad because they fall short of expectations at this price level imho. That said It looks good and goes like hell so if that floats your boat and you have some cash to throw around it's a great buy i guess.
Struggled to fit everything in, sorry :-(
If the tests so far are any indication, the I-Pace currently maxes out at 80kW of charging. It appears to be due to the 200A current limit (200A at 400V).
This may change in the future, but regardless of if you have a 100kW or 150kW charger, the max is 80kW so far.
That doesn't change the fact however that most fast chargers for the I-Pace out there are only 50kW, and many will not even reach the max 50kW.
I still think they have got the pricing totalling wrong. You wouldn't spend that much money on a car to tootle around town in. It needs to be a viable commuter to enable you to get further and home again on a single charge and it falls short. If it were £35k-£45k, they'd have a winner and a real competitor to the Tesla Model 3.
Jaguar are a premium brand and that is the market this has been targeted at I guess :-)
@@PetrolPed hmmm, not really, when they have the XE rep mobile. They cover a wide spectrum and the I-Pace should have firmly been mid-range and that is where they were originally pitching it.
You can't buy a Model 3 for £35,000-£45,000 and won't be able too, they'll never sell it that cheap! At present you pay $60,000+ in the USA The $35,000 price tag was a gimmick.
@@Sofala there is no evidence to support your comment for UK prices.
Sofala - The Model 3 Long Range is $49,000 in the USA today. My brother bought one last week, and he paid $49,000.
The price is Model 3 $35,000, Long Range Battery Option, $9,000, Premium Package, $5,000 = $49,000
Great video Pete. What a stunning Jag! Being a total petrol head, I always thought that electric /hybrid cars would be a poor substitute for good old petrol power. Just lately though my mind is changing!! Have you ever driven a Prius out of interest?
Only ever been the passenger in a Prius. I have a Hyundai Ionic for a week in a couple of weeks time :-)
Do brake lights come on with re-gen braking or doesn’t it slow down quick enough to need to show them?
Yes :-)
Can you clarify whether this example had air suspension or not - that might have something to do with the perceived floatiness?
Air Suspension is an option and I this car didn't have it fitted :-(
Which is kinda interesting, as the longer range and larger Model S 75D has air suspension standard, while it is cheaper than the Jaguar.
What was the range drop like when sat on the motorway at 70 ? Please do a winter ev review in Jan Feb and see how close you can get to manufacturers claimed range. I suspect it will only be about 50%
I got about 170 miles !
Not bad considering you were driving like a journo :) I guessing a winter range of about 120 then. 1L of fuel is about 10kw and EV are about twice as efficient as a combustion engine so it's the same as living with your S4 but never putting more than about 4 gallons in the tank in terms of energy/efficiency/anxiety ratio.
@@MiniEggs1999 I used half a tank of gas in the KIA Sorrento I borrowed just driving a few miles in the city and about 40 miles on the highway. That I-pace could probably do around 400 miles in the city... Gas powered cars are just ridiculously bad to the point I am angry at the car companies for treating all its customers like suckers. Now we find out that the emissions are something like 40 times what was claimed for ICE cars due to the nonsensical testing used. Apparently they test at optimal conditions and rpms. If you accelerate at all or drive up hills then the emissions shoot up. Get a reasonable average for normal driving and the results are crazy higher than the numbers stated officially. Gas powered cars cannot go away fast enough.
0ooTheMAXXoo0 and Nissan have been really honest about the charging of the new leaf ....
Interestingly I've just bought a used I-Pace SE '68 plate for £47K. It has exactly the same spec as your test car. I feel I have a great car at a great price. Thanks for the video. PS the Jaguar upgrade now gives me 256 miles range in Eco mode.
Great deal 👌
Great review. Thanks
Thank you 👍
So why do yalls chargers detach at both ends? Have never seen one in the US like that.
This is the cable you can take with you 👍
@@PetrolPed all the EVs here come with just the 110 volt you take but it looks like having that second cable saves the companies installing the chargers a ton of money as they don't have to pay for that to be installed. Makes so much sense!
Do the brake lights come on when regenerative braking? If they don’t it would wind me up driving behind
Yes :-)
Paul with most EV its one petal driving but some makers make you use a separate paddle or button you press to get Regen braking. YES, the brake lights come on when Regen braking. in fact the TESLA shows brakelighs activating on the BIG Tesla screen.
That sounds illegal for a car maker to do.
I have an SE on order due next March and I agree with everything said in your report from my test ride, it is very exciting to drive
The only thing from the pictures in the report showed 100% charged with circa 240 miles as Jaguar state 292
I accept that 292 might not be achieved due to circumstances but I would have expected 100% = 292 as a display
£66k after the government grant is a lot of dosh, but I have to stop myself thinking I am not worthy of the outlay so long as it does not break the bank
You will be lucky to get 180 on the highway if your doing 70mph. Ipace is extremely inefficient. Its less efficient than the model x which is much larger (space 1650 liter vs 2500 liter, weight 2133kg vs 2500kg).
You are going to love your new car :-)
Yeah, real life tests with a full battery, like Bjorn Nyland did, the range is only between 200 and 220 miles real world.
No one will ever get anything close to 292. Real life, expect 230 best case scenario. I have seen multiple real life range tests so far, and everyone so far is getting between 230W to 250W per Km, or around 370W per mile or more.
Since the usable capacity has been measured at around 81kWh, real life range is very close to 220 miles.
So, if someone is expecting anything close to 300 miles of real life range, they will be pretty disappointed.
Bjorn Nyland's tests were done at around 56Mph or 90KMh, so not exactly high speed driving. Probably means sub 200 mile range in the USA where the speed limit is normally 70Mph or 112KMh.
So many directions they could take this. Imagine a low two seat sports car with low frontal area and drag coefficient. Two motors, one for each of the rear wheels, allowing instant torque control with no diff. Double wishbonds all round. Bit like the original Tesla I suppose but design and tech has moved on a bit since then. Or a jacked up no compromise electric defender offroader. Massive wading depth due to no air inlet or exhaust. Massive torque. Maybe a smaller motor for each wheel.
Lots of great ideas there :-)
Can anyone throw any light on servicing?
I-Pace needs servicing annually and the deal is £999 for 3yr Is it just me or does that seem a lot for just plugging it in to diagnostics and then glancing at pads & tyres?
That does sound a lot. I'm not sure what the servicing plan would include if I'm honest !
Great vlog......you should be a presenter on Top Gear
In my dreams ;-)
I think the I-Pace will be very attractive to people who would choose a Tesla EV over other brands EV's. I think this is a great alternative to Tesla and very stylish for an EV. Great review Ped!
Cheers Buddy :-)
(check the Tesla UK pricing! Model S is competitive!)
It would be a competitor if not for the lackluster range. A Model S 75D, which is larger, faster, quicker, more efficient and with a longer range is also cheaper, and it has air suspension standard.
It can also charge faster at home (7.5 hours instead of 13.5 hours), and faster on the road, 120kW vs Jaguar is currently maxed out at 80kW, with a far larger charging network.
So, although I think the Jaguar is a compelling car in many ways, it does not really compare favorably to Tesla in almost every category.
Model 3 fully loaded 330 mile range is $50,000. Easy decision for me. Ipace is nice but too complicated. Wish would be $50k range with charging network like Tesla. :(
Sure, but have you seen the inside of the model 3? It’s like a toy car with a laptop screen in the middle. At least the Jag has style and looks like real car on the inside
With you on this one, that is have one on order. Minimal interior is an appeal too, how many buttons does not make a car.
paul elliott counting the number of switches and buttons does not make a car, you missed the idea w it’s the minimal interior which is what appeals to the half million which have already ordered one
@@dmomcilovic9185 Yup. The screen in the model 3 is extremely intuitive and responsive. So much better than the buttons and knobs in a traditional car. I remember when people hated the virtual keyboard on an iphone. Look how that turned out.
lol, talking about mileage is boring. Imagine a combustion engine car video talking about mileage, boring!
Hi Pete, Thanks for this excellent review. I have to say that I am already planning my next vehicle, having only just taken delivery of my current one, back in July 2018, my last 3 ltr desiel. I have made the decision to purchase an EV, but not until the range is at least 300 miles (400 would be better). I do accept your recommendations on the subject of route planning and to this end I am already doing this as a precursor to going EV in the future. It is somewhat of a chore at present, but I am sure the availability of charging points will improve quite quickly.
More battery range coming apparently :-)
+Stewart UK The Tesla 100D has a range of 331 miles EPA but these cars are expensive. The cheaper Model 3 with the long range battery (the only type they currently make) has a range of 310 miles but is only available in the US at present.
Dogphlap Thanks for the reply. I’ve got some time now to consider my future options and hopefully things on the EV front will develop favourably over time. At least I hope they will.
the model 3 is going to be at least £40-45k for the basic trim when it hits our shores....plus i'd worry with aftersale care....not too many tesla dealerships about..... but if you drive more than 200 miles in one go, then, really, for safety sake, you should have a half hour break- perfect to top of the battery whilst you are fetching and drinking your coffee....
@@iainansell5930
£45k?
$35k.... ÷1.3 (exchange?) X 1.2 (vat) = £32k.... + On the road costs, minus any government rebate.
How do you get £45k?
Even if you add shipping cost.
I'm not ready to jump into the electric wagon as of yet. If it was possible for someone to make a request to Jaguar I would ask for this body shape given the Turbo four Engine in the F-type and turn this into the ultimate hot hatch. IT is beautiful. It is a really beautiful car.
Jag's temp stopping of production due to battery shortage does vindicate Tesla's decision to build a dedicated battery factory. They were mocked for doing so by legacy makers but it clearly makes sense. Investing in charging network is also paying off in spades.
Yep 👍
Can regen be set to be 'progressive', or is it just full regen or no regen? Seems like you'd want something that isn't like driving with the hand break on. Maybe a setting where you lift, and the longer you're off the accelerator, the more regen you get. From the sounds of things, currently you get 100% regen as soon as you lift. I'd think it would be more desirable to have something like 0%-25%-50%-75%-100% depending on how long you lift or on some other factor(s). It seems to me that regen that comes on gently would be more appealing to more people, and you could always give drivers the option to choose pick what they like - none, progressive, full.
Thanks.
No progressive regen as far as I am aware. You get used to it very quickly and find yourself using it as a way of slowing the car in town driving :-)
The big question is though: what is meant by "two concentric electric motors"?
'concentric' refers to the coil winding in the electric motor :-)
Does the re-gen braking activate the brake lights?
Yes :-)
A very simple way for me to describe this Video “I am jealous” very jealous, I just hope that Jaguar have a winner with this…
LOL...it was a lovely car to spend the day in :-)
Hi Ped
Interesting review and food for thought in certain areas.
Styling wise have to disagree with you, I hate the back end. Interior looks good however. Driving experience sounds promising, and as you say going to have change some perceptions. At present I could not be tempted to change from my SQ5, why, I need to tow, and the dreaded diesel fits the bill.
Coming down to Goodwood with a triple axle trailer with 2 vintage cars, 310 miles in a day and 27.4 mpg. I rest my case.
Yep, not sure how this would tow :-)
FYI evs over 60k list price are not eligible for the 4.5k grant
Tell that to Jaguars web site...www.jaguar.co.uk/jaguar-range/i-pace/index.html ;-)
Great review very infrormative. Torn between this and a tesla but you may have just tipped tye balance . Only single thing i would pick you up on was the 13 quid a charge vs a whole tank at 70 odd pounds as the range of charge is far less than a equivalent tank of fuel . You did look sexy in the car though . 0 to 60 in 4.1 was highly impressive and the interior was juicy . Something satisfying about charging the car up and certainly futuristic thats for sure . I also think the roof was a must at under 1k . Yes i do like it . I think one would have to be carefull not to get carried away with the extra options though. At say 130 quid for 2000 miles and in turn 1300 for 20000 and 13000 for 200k its really a no brainer compared to petrol at lets say 40mpg mixed so what 6 pounds per gallon 60 pounds for 400 600 for 4000 . 6000 for 40000 and then 30k pounds for 200k miles so there you have a 27k saving already and thats not accounting for petrol going up then factor in congestion charge and tax and although a bigger outlay in the long run its really not so bad then yes the grant . Maintenance is less i hear also . I must ask though as i drove a few myself . Do you find them lets say diffrent handling wise ? I did in a mix between a sort of go cart and a computer game but in a rather pleasent way really
It was dodgy Man-Maths ;-)
For a car that size you are talking 24MPG with mostly highway driving. My Chevy Spark (tiny, low drag) gets 33MPG mixed. I drove a Kia Sorrento 40 miles on the highway and maybe 10 in the city and it used half a tank of gas! On the other hand, in the city, EVs get crazy good range... EV maintenance is brakes around 100,000 miles, tires, and cabin air filter changes and I think that is about it. Gas cars I think you spend an average of $1000 per year in maintenance (smaller most years, larger a few times = the average) If I remember the numbers correctly.
Lovely car - not sure about the blue though as does not show the lines aswell as a gray would.
Really worked well in the sunlight though :-)