Could you do a video on how Garmadon’s story references actual Oni mythology? In Oni mythology, a human can become an Oni by giving in to evil impulses, as Oni are a representation of inhumanity, being cruel and amoral creatures and who possess dark powers and revel in destruction of humans and their values.
I could totally see why he would give Zane because of his personality. After all Zane was "Built to protect those who cannot protect themselves." And it was unlikely that he would be corrupted.
@@craigpeoples9883 he lost his memory and was holding a forbidden scroll that the master of ice probably didn’t know about, and the forbidden scroll even managed to corrupt Wu and Lloyd, so it isn’t that much of a surprise that having it stuck in his hand for a long time would cause him to become evil. He starred out trusting and without memory, then was corrupted by the staff and “advisor”
Here’s another thought: the ice element may make someone age faster. In the flashback in season 7, the master of ice looks the oldest out of all of the elemental masters, who were around 20 or 30. Ice is known to symbolize lack of movement, lack of life. Fire is known to symbolize anger, excitement, youth and life. Ice is on the complete other side of the spectrum. It’s not much of a stretch to say it could have life shortening effects. The former master of ice may have given his powers to Zane once he learned he was an android, not human, and would most likely not suffer these effects and would live on after everyone else was dead. (Also I can’t stop thinking how internally depressed Zane probably is, seeing as he probably has realized he will outlive all of his friends. He’s over a hundred years old now. A HUNDRED!)
It's a nice theory. I wonder if all Elements affect respective masters' aging. Let me see: Earth is already super-old but also the only thing that lasts long, that would be Cole; Lightning is energy and light, so it means that the owner is always over-charged, and this profile fits on Jay; Kai and fire, Zane and Ice; Water is changing, it has no shape, it adapts, it brings life but sometimes it can be deathly too... Nya, that's quite fitting; Energy is the real essence of life, of existence, maybe the power of awareness or feelings or the essence of the real act of thinking or knowledge, it's a mystery, something that can pierce you with a single sight, this is Lloyd. Well, let me know what you think about this tiny window inside my delirium and keep in mind your idea is great. :-)
My theory, which builds off of Tanner’s preferred theory, is that if you want to transfer your element via non-biological methods, you can’t just pass it to anyone, they have to have something about them that distinguishes them as being resilient and able to control the new power they have obtained. The Master of Ice was searching for someone who would be both able to control the ice element once he gave it to them and be worthy of it. Zane fits this bill, as he’s mechanical, and his original heart was of a unique material, one that could withstand the power of an element and his motivation of protecting those who can’t protect themselves made him worthy. That’s how I’ve always interpreted it.
Ice represents a person who is calm and chill and not raging with fire (kai) Zane is built to protect those who cannot protect them selfs. And Zane is a ninja who fights using his brain
I absolutely agree with your theory that the previous Elemental Master of Ice passed his elemental power to Zane because of his personality and purpose. Zane was built to protect those that could not protect themselves, so the previous Elemental Master of Ice must have sensed the goodness in him and believe that he was worthy to wield the Elemental Power of Ice.
Well said. I agree. Zane is someone who is kind, good and pure in heart as well as being calm, level headed and intelligent. Also like you said he was built to protect those who cannot protect themselves so he is a very good candidate too.
Have you noticed that most of the elemental masters we have seen have personalities that matches their elements. Does having the element change the person, or is there something about the person that attracts the element, or both? For powers that are passed genetically, personality can behave the same way. Both Jay and his birth mom are shown to be energetic to an abrasive level (electricity). Technically Nya must learn to be fully adaptive to use her power (it doesn't even work until she unlocks that trait). However, she is shown to be adaptive early on -- not only fitting but thriving as Samurai X in a team that didn't want her. Her mom is surprisingly successful in fitting neatly into the role of mother after all those years. We don't see much of Lily, but Cole is the rock of the team, steady and even stubborn. Kai is very passionate and has a hot temper (both traits we associate with heat and fire) though I'm not sure about his dad. Skylor with her power of amber is able to be whoever someone needs her to be (absorbing and reflecting traits). Lloyd is... green, I guess (actually I think his power is manipulating elemental energy itself in any free form and I'm not sure it actually counts as one of the elemental abilities technically). Zane is cold and firm (though not unfeeling) like you would see in ice. When Dr. Julien says that Zane changed after the man left, is that what he meant, or was Zane like that before and that is why the Ice Master saw him as a good candidate?
I really like your theory and I want to point out, even if it’s late, that we see Zane act like a young boy where as in this flashback, where he has the elemental power, that he acts similar to the way he does now.
I think it's mainly something about that person that attracts them to this element for the most part. Kai or Jay are not suitable to be the master of ice, Zane or Cole are not suitable to be the master of fire etc, so i think it's something innate about that person that attracts them to that element. Maybe the element only slightly alters them to an extent. I think the previous master of ice saw him as a good candidate due to his character and the values that he possesses and thus chose Zane.
I wanna know why we haven’t gotten a more accurate face print for Zane yet. The face print we always get for Zane is based off of his SOG appearance but they changed how he looks some in the WildBrain seasons. So I’m curious why LEGO hasn’t produced a face print yet for the newer design of Zane’s face
Back then, before the ice chapter aired, I thought a whole plot about the ice emperor being actually the son of the master of ice. He did not have powers organically because, as nya mentioned in season 5, the powers skipped his generation. Because of that he would rebel against his father and be banished to the never realm while his father would give his powers to zane. After zane and the scrolls were banished to there, he would become the ice emperor with the scroll and try to destroy zane to use it to get the powers he should have had, but never did
that could have given a chance to explore zane getting his power and a son of the elemental master of ice being there all along, jealous, plotting revenge. maybe he would go to the realm of ice, (never realm) to feel the power he never had. his advisor, vex, would find out of THE ELEMENTAL MASTER OF ICE, (zane) in the never realm. to please his master, he still does the whole: "pull out the cord in the back of his head" thing, but instead convinces him he stole the element from the ice emporer. (who is original elmental ice masters son, but he does not have the ice element.) due to zanes kind-to-all heart, he ends up brain-washed the same way he would be as the ice emperor. after "handing over the element" somehow, he thinks he can escape, but is imprisoned insted. the other ninja go to rescue him, succeed, and then he would remember his true past. they would take refuge in coles sasquatch friend's cave to plot there attack. zane, who does not have all his memorys back ( he slowly recovers more through those episodes) would have to remember who he is to defeat the ice emporer and get his power back. thank you for reading to anyone who does. i know, my plot is pretty "cool", get it?....
I liked the last theory the best because it makes the most sense. However, Zane will live pretty much forever, so either the ice elemental power sticks with Zane forever and never finds another host, or Zane finds a someone to pass his powers on to after most of the ninja (except Lloyd and himself because they will be living for a very long time) die. I wonder what the far future for the ice element will be
I was also thinking: Ice and clairvoyance are connected in the show, right? Zane has 6th sense, Vex has a shard of ice that tells the future, stuff like that. Maybe the master of Ice saw Zane in a vision, like how Zane saw the Green Ninja back in season 1
Another neat little detail to this theory is that Zane can't feel cold. He's somewhat immune to the element, as we can see through his ability to meditate in the freezing cold water. This would allow him to better harness the effects of the element, and with the Master of Ice having sheltered from the cold at that moment, it's likely this was taken into consideration.
Built to protect those who cannot protect themselves. He may have hunted for a worthy successor, and when he came across Zane, he realized that his pure, innocent nature and strong moral values made him an ideal defender of Ninjago.
My theory is that the previous master of ice had a vision about a boy in the icy woods. Like zane gets visions mostly because i think because of his power like in season 5 when they search for the realm crystal they see their futures in the ice shard. Its like the same element so i think the master of ice got a vision about zane
Good theory. I always believed though that Zane's visions came from him being a robot, same with most of his abilities like his sixth sense too and his many other abilities but this could be possible tbh.
Remember Zane was "Built to protect those who cannot protect themselves" and thus has the qualities of a ninja/elemental master but I always like the idea that Dr. Jullian is a descendant of the OG elemental master of Ice and as he was getting old/closer to death he transferred his power to his son before he died.
They aired "Sons of Garmadon" a hundred times and I have been watching "Snake Jaguar" episode every single time, so I know this scene very well, so I have got a theory of my own about Master of Ice's choice. I thought that he was guided from some force to find the right person to pass his Elemental Power to and Universe led him to Doctor Julian's house. I did not think he had some issues with the storm or the icy weather out of there. Maybe he had after he passed his powers to Zane. I also think that Ice did not know that Zane was not human; maybe, if he knew, he would not care: the important thing was this person was good, calm, his hands were the right ones, his goal were noble and his heart was pure, that's all: Zane was the perfect candidate. I wonder what he did: did he layd his hands on him and then went away or maybe he said something to Zane, in order to prepare him? They just chit-chat, to make the Master of Ice scan his candidate, or he was completely sure about his choice so he left him soon, right after they met? Maybe the old Master of Ice patted him on the shoulder, a tiny cold spark and the handover was done. Doctor Julian acted pretty non-fatherly when he talked with Master Wu, telling this unknown old man that his son was more strange than before, since he met the Master of Ice. Who would say his (or her) son is weird to a perfect stranger? However, we know that Zane was affected by this and he also kept the secret with his father. He went on with his life until he was found by Master Wu and called to be a ninja. Maybe he knew he had got some not common power, but he never used it. Or maybe he used them but they were just instinct... or whatever is the respondant for a high-performing AI. When Zane rebuilt himself, something weird happened, for sure: the Elemental Power followed his soul into the new body. In spite of the fact he was unconscious and his memory was corrupted, Zane still was the owner of the Element of Ice. That's great and maybe is totally unexpected; if Elements never disappear, Ice followed the next good candidate to be the new "ice-bender". And the next one was exactly the previous one: Zane passed the power to himself. :-)
I like your theories. Also, I would think that the Master of Ice at the time wouldn't know Zane was a robot, because why would Dr. Julien build Zane in the middle of nowhere if he didn't want people to know. This is why we need a full Zane season exploring his father's past, getting Echo Zane back, and finding out more on why the Previous Master of Ice gave his powers to Zane. I have a slight headcanon that perhaps, The Previous Master of Ice had a lot more connection to Zane and his father than either knew, that perhaps he was Dr. Julien's long lost father, who Dr. Julien never remembered because the Master of Ice left him when he was a baby and Dr. Julien's mother never spoke of the man. And because of this, Dr. Julien never "unlocked" the Element of Ice so his father still controlled it. Then, when his time was running out, the Previous Master of Ice sought out his son, maybe having a vision of him and "young" Zane, and went to them, with his element creating the winter storm that Dr. Julien and Zane had found him in. So, in a way, Zane did get his element through his family, at least in this headcanon of mine. (I also have one where Dr. Julien had a wife who was the daughter of the Master of Ice instead of him and he went to find his daughter only to see that Zane looked very much like her and what better way to make up the fact he left her and his wife than to give the Element to hers and her husband's "son")
Wu is in his old model so this happened after Garm's banishment so it was like 30-ish years after the time twins incident (unless I'm missing something). How old was the master of ice? "The winter seemed to follow him" i think when an elemental master is approaching death their powers get a little out of control bc they are close to leaving the master to search for a new host. I wonder if he was in his 110s or greater.
This is a weird fourth theory but Zane has been known to have visions that happen in real time. What if those vsions come with the ice power and what if the master of ice had a vision of the forest and used whatever time to get there and meet Zane
I think Ice and Premonitions are related somewhat, as Zane has visions, and Vex has a piece of ice that helps him see the present or future. That or Ice physically and mentally aged someone faster than other elements, and he needed to find someone worthy to pass power onto fast.
I think it might have something to do with Zanes cold and calculating personality due to him being a nindroid and his purpose being to protect those who cannot protect themselves
Fun fact Zane has a soul therefore technically not a robot/AI I know this because as Master Wu and many other elders has said elemental power is imbedded into the essence/soul of a person if Zane has ice abilities therefore that implies he has a soul thus not an advanced AI I believe his power source I dubbed "Soul Stone" is if an AI comes contact with this Soul Stone it gives the user a soul we see this with Pixal after she touched Zane's power source she started doing things she wasn't coded to do therefore Zane is NOT an AI instead a Human soul trapped in a titanium body.
My theory is that the master of ice probably saw some light in Zane so maybe the master of ice had a pretty deep conversation with Zane and Zane would’ve probably said in the conversation I was built to protect those who cannot protect themselves so this is a very high chance that this happened so there is no way that the master of ice could’ve denied him to be the future master of ice and the tinkerer for people that may not know that is Zane’s father his inventor he said in season 8 of ninjago Zane has been acting differently lately so this is probably the elemental power entering zane which probably caused him to act differently. So this is basically my theory on why the master of ice chose Zane to be the master of ice: WHO LIKES ICE CREAM I DO how about that for last line: try to guess where I got this from 🥶🥶❄️❄️🍦🍦
I propose a new question. Why didn't Chen need water, wind, or time for his spell? I think it would've been really cool if Nya found out she was a water elemental through Chen's tournament of elements.
Lloyd wu and garmadon are lore-wise oni which makes them invincible and Zane could get destroyed or melted or even scrapped but unless Zane takes care of these disadvantages he can live as long as Lloyd wu and garmadon
@@Idiot833 Zane can be destroyed, but that does not mean he can’t be rebuilt, and, knowing Lloyd and Wu, they’d do everything to keep Zane around, as I sincerely doubt that they’d be able to stand losing someone else since they already lost Jay, Kai, Cole, and Nya.
Speaking of elements being past on to new masters. Is anyone else hoping we might finally get to see the new master of wind after Master Wu brought it up saying the elements of wind and water belonged to Wohira and not the elemental masters. I need my boi Morro to get some justice here people
So in season 3 I believe, does anyone else remember when Zane got hurt and P.I.X.E.L helped Zane and she looked at his power source and it was like an icy blue almost. And she even said she didn’t recognize that technology? What if the reason she didn’t recognize it was because it was the soul of the master of ice powering him? Or giving him his powers at least and that’s why P.I.X.E.L was unfamiliar with that technology because it was “soul powered” if that makes sense
my theory is that he gave it to him because he knew he was a nindroid and nindroids don't age and since ageing was his downfall he wouldn't let that happen to the next master of ice
The thing is the cloud kingdom can change any thing so maybe after seeing that Zane is a good person they decided too make it so the master of ice too give his power too zane
I think he passed it on to Zane because he is a robot he will never get old like the ice master did he is somewhat eternal so the ice master passed it on to him so the next ice master would be eternal
it can also be said that because of his old age he could want to pass on the powers to someone that dint age so that the holder pf the elemental power wouldn't have the same fate as him
So in a few words the ninja always had their powers but golden weapons just accelerated the way to control them? And also that the golden power did the same but with pure power? That would explain why they do not depend on lloyd to use their power now
Je pense que les visions de Zane pourrait être directement liée au pouvoir élémentaire de GLACE. Et Peut être que l'ancien maître de la GLACE avait lui aussi des prémonitions, et grâce à ça, Il a décidé de choisir Zane pour une raison qui nous est inconnue.
What if zanes heart from s3 was made out of chronosteal (same thing/material/metal used to absorb krux’s and acronix’s power’s) and the ice elemental before zane had absorbed his powers into those 2 disks/pieces of zanes heart and gave it to dr Julian because he was dying of old age and this tablet might be possible since as we have seen elemental powers are very strong and are somewhat limitless that’s how zane is always powered without charging or anything and when he gave half his heart to pixel he couldn’t do spinjitsu because he gave half of his powers to pixel by giving her his chronosteal ice absorbed heart
I think the elemental master of ice was a nindroid just like him… I wish that was Zanes ancestor or he could’ve started building Zane and people were after him then he gave him to Dr Jillian so could be his real father… Tanner can you do a video about if the Unknown elemental master in the first serpentine wars is Harumi’s Grandfather or her birth father (Really dark cause harumi would’ve did all of that for the wrong parents) cause something keeps telling me he is related to harumi and if she would’ve lived she would’ve got the powers… and do a video about why Libber being trapped in prime empire was scrapped.
It is confirmed in the last season that If a wielder of the elemental powers dies then it will transfer to a new person. I remember the overlord talking about killing the ninja and it will only continue this cycle of him being defeated later on and the only option would be to possess them. So even if the master of ice didn’t give his powers to Zane, it probably would’ve gotten to Zane anyway or to different person if the master of ice were to die.
I would like to see how do they pass on elemental power like do they focus and their power leaves their body and into the person they chose oh do they do something else
What I think is that the Elemental of Ice died in the forest and his soul was left in one of the animals (mabey a bird) in the forest. He wait patiently to see who could hold his elemental powers with a kind heart. When he saw Zane was "built" for kindness and protect others the Elemental of Ice chose Zane for his powers.
*My thoughts on this matter:* - The master of Ice fought against Acronix & Krux and was hit but wasn't affected by fast aging or visions of Zane. - The master of Ice aged normally and at some point he decided it was the right time to pass his element on to the next master. - He remembered his battle with Acronix & Krux and didn't want the next master to get affected by the time blades. - He searched probably for a couple of years to someone with the right spirit and came across Zane & Julian in the woods. - Zane showed him respect for others and talked to Zane, with at the end giving him the element of Ice. - I personally think that Sensei Wu gets notified when a new master of an element is chosen. Maybe we'll see this later on. - Julian didn't know that the man was the master of Ice or that Zane got the element of Ice. - The old master of Ice went home and passed quietly at him home.
OHH MY GOSHHHH CRAZY IDEA what if zane gets his own solo series in 2023 and the plot would be the son of the previous master of ice thought he wa s getting the power passed on to him but instead it was passed on to zane a ninjroid and now we wants those powers
In my opinion, as you stated “depending on how they are used, they could do great harm” if I were an elemental master I would take “giving away my element” very seriously, and especially not give it to a robot since a robot can be vulnerable if it shut down which it did in season 8 against Mr. E, they could’ve easily corrupted Zane and used him for “great harm”
I feel that the master of ice new that he was dying and wanted a constant good that he could leave behind. He new Zane was an android and wouldn’t have to die of old age like he was
I believe the master of ice 🧊 chose Zane because he was getting older and also because he saw himself in Zane and saw that Zane is the future master of ice and that Zane is worthy of his element.
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What are your thoughts on this CHILLING topic? What kinds of COOL theories do you guys have? ❄️
Chilling haha good pun Xd
Could you do a video on how Garmadon’s story references actual Oni mythology? In Oni mythology, a human can become an Oni by giving in to evil impulses, as Oni are a representation of inhumanity, being cruel and amoral creatures and who possess dark powers and revel in destruction of humans and their values.
Nice new profile pic
Lol
Interesting theory idk
I could totally see why he would give Zane because of his personality. After all Zane was "Built to protect those who cannot protect themselves." And it was unlikely that he would be corrupted.
Ice emperor
@@craigpeoples9883 I know he became the Ice Emperor but I think that the former Master of Ice didn't think he would do that.
@@milibaoStill happened
@@craigpeoples9883 he lost his memory and was holding a forbidden scroll that the master of ice probably didn’t know about, and the forbidden scroll even managed to corrupt Wu and Lloyd, so it isn’t that much of a surprise that having it stuck in his hand for a long time would cause him to become evil. He starred out trusting and without memory, then was corrupted by the staff and “advisor”
He did get corrupted in the comics
I know there's already a season about zane, but ninjago needs to make another season about him explaining how zane got his powers.
I agree, I'd like to see that to
Some ninjas have more than one season Zane needs a season again
He has the least seasons out of the others. Even nya has more than one and she hasnt been one of the main characters that long.
@@angelina6514she’s been one of the first main characters, what r u on
@Tn-qr1kb the main 4 has been zane, jay, cole and especially kai. Nya has had a big role always but not main character
Here’s another thought: the ice element may make someone age faster. In the flashback in season 7, the master of ice looks the oldest out of all of the elemental masters, who were around 20 or 30. Ice is known to symbolize lack of movement, lack of life. Fire is known to symbolize anger, excitement, youth and life. Ice is on the complete other side of the spectrum. It’s not much of a stretch to say it could have life shortening effects. The former master of ice may have given his powers to Zane once he learned he was an android, not human, and would most likely not suffer these effects and would live on after everyone else was dead.
(Also I can’t stop thinking how internally depressed Zane probably is, seeing as he probably has realized he will outlive all of his friends. He’s over a hundred years old now. A HUNDRED!)
It's a nice theory. I wonder if all Elements affect respective masters' aging. Let me see: Earth is already super-old but also the only thing that lasts long, that would be Cole; Lightning is energy and light, so it means that the owner is always over-charged, and this profile fits on Jay; Kai and fire, Zane and Ice; Water is changing, it has no shape, it adapts, it brings life but sometimes it can be deathly too... Nya, that's quite fitting; Energy is the real essence of life, of existence, maybe the power of awareness or feelings or the essence of the real act of thinking or knowledge, it's a mystery, something that can pierce you with a single sight, this is Lloyd.
Well, let me know what you think about this tiny window inside my delirium and keep in mind your idea is great. :-)
Zane will most likely shut down when all of his friends die I believe
Same with Lloyd with oni and dragon blood. But of course Zane will outlive Lloyd too. Kinda dark lol
Well Zane does have pixal as well as mini pixal.
Zane is a nindroid not an android
My theory, which builds off of Tanner’s preferred theory, is that if you want to transfer your element via non-biological methods, you can’t just pass it to anyone, they have to have something about them that distinguishes them as being resilient and able to control the new power they have obtained. The Master of Ice was searching for someone who would be both able to control the ice element once he gave it to them and be worthy of it. Zane fits this bill, as he’s mechanical, and his original heart was of a unique material, one that could withstand the power of an element and his motivation of protecting those who can’t protect themselves made him worthy. That’s how I’ve always interpreted it.
Ice represents a person who is calm and chill and not raging with fire (kai) Zane is built to protect those who cannot protect them selfs. And Zane is a ninja who fights using his brain
plus zane was already risen in a frozen area
Well said. Zane is wise, calm, level headed, intelligent and pure in heart. He is a good candidate.
I absolutely agree with your theory that the previous Elemental Master of Ice passed his elemental power to Zane because of his personality and purpose. Zane was built to protect those that could not protect themselves, so the previous Elemental Master of Ice must have sensed the goodness in him and believe that he was worthy to wield the Elemental Power of Ice.
Well said. I agree. Zane is someone who is kind, good and pure in heart as well as being calm, level headed and intelligent. Also like you said he was built to protect those who cannot protect themselves so he is a very good candidate too.
Have you noticed that most of the elemental masters we have seen have personalities that matches their elements. Does having the element change the person, or is there something about the person that attracts the element, or both? For powers that are passed genetically, personality can behave the same way.
Both Jay and his birth mom are shown to be energetic to an abrasive level (electricity).
Technically Nya must learn to be fully adaptive to use her power (it doesn't even work until she unlocks that trait). However, she is shown to be adaptive early on -- not only fitting but thriving as Samurai X in a team that didn't want her. Her mom is surprisingly successful in fitting neatly into the role of mother after all those years.
We don't see much of Lily, but Cole is the rock of the team, steady and even stubborn.
Kai is very passionate and has a hot temper (both traits we associate with heat and fire) though I'm not sure about his dad.
Skylor with her power of amber is able to be whoever someone needs her to be (absorbing and reflecting traits).
Lloyd is... green, I guess (actually I think his power is manipulating elemental energy itself in any free form and I'm not sure it actually counts as one of the elemental abilities technically).
Zane is cold and firm (though not unfeeling) like you would see in ice.
When Dr. Julien says that Zane changed after the man left, is that what he meant, or was Zane like that before and that is why the Ice Master saw him as a good candidate?
I really like your theory and I want to point out, even if it’s late, that we see Zane act like a young boy where as in this flashback, where he has the elemental power, that he acts similar to the way he does now.
Jay and his mom is because of adhd. Stubbornness can pass on to children. So can rash.
Lloyds power isn't green🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️ Its energy
I think it's mainly something about that person that attracts them to this element for the most part. Kai or Jay are not suitable to be the master of ice, Zane or Cole are not suitable to be the master of fire etc, so i think it's something innate about that person that attracts them to that element. Maybe the element only slightly alters them to an extent. I think the previous master of ice saw him as a good candidate due to his character and the values that he possesses and thus chose Zane.
wyldfire is the master of heat
Did you know that the postman was the elemental master of teleportation?
In one episode we could se his arm in an other place than his body.
UM WHAT
what episode
I wanna know why we haven’t gotten a more accurate face print for Zane yet. The face print we always get for Zane is based off of his SOG appearance but they changed how he looks some in the WildBrain seasons. So I’m curious why LEGO hasn’t produced a face print yet for the newer design of Zane’s face
Agree
There are some people that made t accurate print for Zane. They are called Ninjagoprints or something. There is a youtube video on it.
Back then, before the ice chapter aired, I thought a whole plot about the ice emperor being actually the son of the master of ice. He did not have powers organically because, as nya mentioned in season 5, the powers skipped his generation. Because of that he would rebel against his father and be banished to the never realm while his father would give his powers to zane. After zane and the scrolls were banished to there, he would become the ice emperor with the scroll and try to destroy zane to use it to get the powers he should have had, but never did
wow, i had similar thoughts too, really was surprised to learn that the ice emperor was actually Zane lmao
Wait but that would have been such a cool concept!
that could have given a chance to explore zane getting his power and a son of the elemental master of ice being there all along, jealous, plotting revenge. maybe he would go to the realm of ice, (never realm) to feel the power he never had. his advisor, vex, would find out of THE ELEMENTAL MASTER OF ICE, (zane) in the never realm. to please his master, he still does the whole: "pull out the cord in the back of his head" thing, but instead convinces him he stole the element from the ice emporer. (who is original elmental ice masters son, but he does not have the ice element.) due to zanes kind-to-all heart, he ends up brain-washed the same way he would be as the ice emperor. after "handing over the element" somehow, he thinks he can escape, but is imprisoned insted. the other ninja go to rescue him, succeed, and then he would remember his true past. they would take refuge in coles sasquatch friend's cave to plot there attack. zane, who does not have all his memorys back ( he slowly recovers more through those episodes) would have to remember who he is to defeat the ice emporer and get his power back.
thank you for reading to anyone who does. i know, my plot is pretty "cool", get it?....
actually I was thinking about this just a few days ago. I think somehow he saw how humble Zane was.
True, Zane is a humble, selfless and good guy with a pure heart.
i feel amazing when all these adults make all these theories and stuff to this animated series made for little kids.
I liked the last theory the best because it makes the most sense. However, Zane will live pretty much forever, so either the ice elemental power sticks with Zane forever and never finds another host, or Zane finds a someone to pass his powers on to after most of the ninja (except Lloyd and himself because they will be living for a very long time) die. I wonder what the far future for the ice element will be
I was also thinking:
Ice and clairvoyance are connected in the show, right? Zane has 6th sense, Vex has a shard of ice that tells the future, stuff like that. Maybe the master of Ice saw Zane in a vision, like how Zane saw the Green Ninja back in season 1
ohh that makes sense...
Another neat little detail to this theory is that Zane can't feel cold. He's somewhat immune to the element, as we can see through his ability to meditate in the freezing cold water. This would allow him to better harness the effects of the element, and with the Master of Ice having sheltered from the cold at that moment, it's likely this was taken into consideration.
He also canonically lowers room temperatures around him, too. Just sharing another sliver of information :)
Built to protect those who cannot protect themselves. He may have hunted for a worthy successor, and when he came across Zane, he realized that his pure, innocent nature and strong moral values made him an ideal defender of Ninjago.
Well said, Zane is someone with many good qualities, and thus is someone worthy of welding an elemental power.
My theory is that the previous master of ice had a vision about a boy in the icy woods. Like zane gets visions mostly because i think because of his power like in season 5 when they search for the realm crystal they see their futures in the ice shard. Its like the same element so i think the master of ice got a vision about zane
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Good theory. I always believed though that Zane's visions came from him being a robot, same with most of his abilities like his sixth sense too and his many other abilities but this could be possible tbh.
Well at least the Master of Ice died knowing he passed on his power to Zane.
Maybe he was tired of the elemental power being passed on through genetics 😂
Maybe he did not find a woman for some reasons. Then, as he was really old, he thought it was time to pass the power to someone else.
I’ve wondered how well The Serpentine would do in a medieval universe say Lord of the Rings or Game of Thrones.
I am wondering of a Serpentine Elemental Master. It's not a human thing only, as part-Oni and nindroids can get and use those powers. :-)
Remember Zane was "Built to protect those who cannot protect themselves" and thus has the qualities of a ninja/elemental master but I always like the idea that Dr. Jullian is a descendant of the OG elemental master of Ice and as he was getting old/closer to death he transferred his power to his son before he died.
The fact that this video covered everything that I was thinking about is crazy
They aired "Sons of Garmadon" a hundred times and I have been watching "Snake Jaguar" episode every single time, so I know this scene very well, so I have got a theory of my own about Master of Ice's choice. I thought that he was guided from some force to find the right person to pass his Elemental Power to and Universe led him to Doctor Julian's house. I did not think he had some issues with the storm or the icy weather out of there. Maybe he had after he passed his powers to Zane.
I also think that Ice did not know that Zane was not human; maybe, if he knew, he would not care: the important thing was this person was good, calm, his hands were the right ones, his goal were noble and his heart was pure, that's all: Zane was the perfect candidate.
I wonder what he did: did he layd his hands on him and then went away or maybe he said something to Zane, in order to prepare him? They just chit-chat, to make the Master of Ice scan his candidate, or he was completely sure about his choice so he left him soon, right after they met?
Maybe the old Master of Ice patted him on the shoulder, a tiny cold spark and the handover was done.
Doctor Julian acted pretty non-fatherly when he talked with Master Wu, telling this unknown old man that his son was more strange than before, since he met the Master of Ice. Who would say his (or her) son is weird to a perfect stranger?
However, we know that Zane was affected by this and he also kept the secret with his father. He went on with his life until he was found by Master Wu and called to be a ninja. Maybe he knew he had got some not common power, but he never used it. Or maybe he used them but they were just instinct... or whatever is the respondant for a high-performing AI.
When Zane rebuilt himself, something weird happened, for sure: the Elemental Power followed his soul into the new body. In spite of the fact he was unconscious and his memory was corrupted, Zane still was the owner of the Element of Ice. That's great and maybe is totally unexpected; if Elements never disappear, Ice followed the next good candidate to be the new "ice-bender". And the next one was exactly the previous one: Zane passed the power to himself. :-)
I like your theories. Also, I would think that the Master of Ice at the time wouldn't know Zane was a robot, because why would Dr. Julien build Zane in the middle of nowhere if he didn't want people to know. This is why we need a full Zane season exploring his father's past, getting Echo Zane back, and finding out more on why the Previous Master of Ice gave his powers to Zane.
I have a slight headcanon that perhaps, The Previous Master of Ice had a lot more connection to Zane and his father than either knew, that perhaps he was Dr. Julien's long lost father, who Dr. Julien never remembered because the Master of Ice left him when he was a baby and Dr. Julien's mother never spoke of the man. And because of this, Dr. Julien never "unlocked" the Element of Ice so his father still controlled it. Then, when his time was running out, the Previous Master of Ice sought out his son, maybe having a vision of him and "young" Zane, and went to them, with his element creating the winter storm that Dr. Julien and Zane had found him in. So, in a way, Zane did get his element through his family, at least in this headcanon of mine. (I also have one where Dr. Julien had a wife who was the daughter of the Master of Ice instead of him and he went to find his daughter only to see that Zane looked very much like her and what better way to make up the fact he left her and his wife than to give the Element to hers and her husband's "son")
I love that Headcanon
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Wu is in his old model so this happened after Garm's banishment so it was like 30-ish years after the time twins incident (unless I'm missing something). How old was the master of ice?
"The winter seemed to follow him" i think when an elemental master is approaching death their powers get a little out of control bc they are close to leaving the master to search for a new host.
I wonder if he was in his 110s or greater.
If upon death, the elemental power will search for a new host, how did Morrow keep his elemental power? (And how did Jay use it)
This is a weird fourth theory but Zane has been known to have visions that happen in real time. What if those vsions come with the ice power and what if the master of ice had a vision of the forest and used whatever time to get there and meet Zane
Maybe, I always Zane's visions came from him being a robot, just like his sixth sense and many other abilities.
I think Ice and Premonitions are related somewhat, as Zane has visions, and Vex has a piece of ice that helps him see the present or future. That or Ice physically and mentally aged someone faster than other elements, and he needed to find someone worthy to pass power onto fast.
dude gave zane a cooling system.
Time Twins brought a strong machine(Dawn of Iron Doom) in a war so he thought it would be correct if he gives his elemental powers to Zane.
I think it might have something to do with Zanes cold and calculating personality due to him being a nindroid and his purpose being to protect those who cannot protect themselves
We may not know everything, but hell do we know that the master of ice had a great taste and judgement.
Fun fact Zane has a soul therefore technically not a robot/AI I know this because as Master Wu and many other elders has said elemental power is imbedded into the essence/soul of a person if Zane has ice abilities therefore that implies he has a soul thus not an advanced AI I believe his power source I dubbed "Soul Stone" is if an AI comes contact with this Soul Stone it gives the user a soul we see this with Pixal after she touched Zane's power source she started doing things she wasn't coded to do therefore Zane is NOT an AI instead a Human soul trapped in a titanium body.
Where did Cryptor interact with this Soul Stone? He has a soul. It could just be that sufficiently advanced AI can create a soul
My theory is that the master of ice probably saw some light in Zane so maybe the master of ice had a pretty deep conversation with Zane and Zane would’ve probably said in the conversation I was built to protect those who cannot protect themselves so this is a very high chance that this happened so there is no way that the master of ice could’ve denied him to be the future master of ice and the tinkerer for people that may not know that is Zane’s father his inventor he said in season 8 of ninjago Zane has been acting differently lately so this is probably the elemental power entering zane which probably caused him to act differently. So this is basically my theory on why the master of ice chose Zane to be the master of ice:
WHO LIKES ICE CREAM I DO how about that for last line: try to guess where I got this from 🥶🥶❄️❄️🍦🍦
I propose a new question. Why didn't Chen need water, wind, or time for his spell? I think it would've been really cool if Nya found out she was a water elemental through Chen's tournament of elements.
plot convenience
I would assume it has more to do with the amount of elemental energy collected for the spell, and no fully the element it's self
Zane could outlive everyone else in Ninjago....
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Lloyd wu and garmadon are lore-wise oni which makes them invincible and Zane could get destroyed or melted or even scrapped but unless Zane takes care of these disadvantages he can live as long as Lloyd wu and garmadon
@@Idiot833 Zane can be destroyed, but that does not mean he can’t be rebuilt, and, knowing Lloyd and Wu, they’d do everything to keep Zane around, as I sincerely doubt that they’d be able to stand losing someone else since they already lost Jay, Kai, Cole, and Nya.
@Cassowary Egg YEP
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Maybe the master of ice gave Zane his powers because his time was running out or maybe he saw kindness and respect in Zane
Speaking of elements being past on to new masters. Is anyone else hoping we might finally get to see the new master of wind after Master Wu brought it up saying the elements of wind and water belonged to Wohira and not the elemental masters.
I need my boi Morro to get some justice here people
So in season 3 I believe, does anyone else remember when Zane got hurt and P.I.X.E.L helped Zane and she looked at his power source and it was like an icy blue almost. And she even said she didn’t recognize that technology? What if the reason she didn’t recognize it was because it was the soul of the master of ice powering him? Or giving him his powers at least and that’s why P.I.X.E.L was unfamiliar with that technology because it was “soul powered” if that makes sense
Zane was chopping wood when he met Master Wu.
Finally now I get to know how Zane got his powers
I had like 34 questions🤔 and now they are being answered
my theory is that he gave it to him because he knew he was a nindroid and nindroids don't age and since ageing was his downfall he wouldn't let that happen to the next master of ice
That is petty interesting ! I’ve never been asking that kind of question all by mylelf
What if Ninjago Masters of Spinjitzu wasn’t a kids show?
It would be... Different
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Why every time I watch one of your vids and learn something new!
Hmmm Maybe The Ice Master Saw something special in Zane so he choose Zane
The thing is the cloud kingdom can change any thing so maybe after seeing that Zane is a good person they decided too make it so the master of ice too give his power too zane
I think he passed it on to Zane because he is a robot he will never get old like the ice master did he is somewhat eternal so the ice master passed it on to him so the next ice master would be eternal
I think Zane was given the powers because as a robot, he couldn't fall victim to his element, like the previous Master of Ice was about to.
I Wouldve Liked To See a Scene Like A Morros Body In The Caves Of Dispair But In A Diffrent Way
Considering he was old and knew his tome was over he picked the one thing that didnt age so he could help forever
The ninjas just learned the powers after using spinjitzu ,overnight they got their powers
it can also be said that because of his old age he could want to pass on the powers to someone that dint age so that the holder pf the elemental power wouldn't have the same fate as him
I always suspected it was two fold, Zane was a good and worthy host, and as a robot he’d be immune to the cold and ice he generates. It’s a win win
I absolutely agree. He was a good candidate due to his qualities (both physical and characteristics) as well as his purpose.
So in a few words the ninja always had their powers but golden weapons just accelerated the way to control them? And also that the golden power did the same but with pure power? That would explain why they do not depend on lloyd to use their power now
Je pense que les visions de Zane pourrait être directement liée au pouvoir élémentaire de GLACE.
Et Peut être que l'ancien maître de la GLACE avait lui aussi des prémonitions, et grâce à ça,
Il a décidé de choisir Zane pour une raison qui nous est inconnue.
Maybe Julian is relate to the man and told him that Zane would be a good candidate
What if zanes heart from s3 was made out of chronosteal (same thing/material/metal used to absorb krux’s and acronix’s power’s) and the ice elemental before zane had absorbed his powers into those 2 disks/pieces of zanes heart and gave it to dr Julian because he was dying of old age and this tablet might be possible since as we have seen elemental powers are very strong and are somewhat limitless that’s how zane is always powered without charging or anything and when he gave half his heart to pixel he couldn’t do spinjitsu because he gave half of his powers to pixel by giving her his chronosteal ice absorbed heart
I think the elemental master of ice was a nindroid just like him… I wish that was Zanes ancestor or he could’ve started building Zane and people were after him then he gave him to Dr Jillian so could be his real father… Tanner can you do a video about if the Unknown elemental master in the first serpentine wars is Harumi’s Grandfather or her birth father (Really dark cause harumi would’ve did all of that for the wrong parents) cause something keeps telling me he is related to harumi and if she would’ve lived she would’ve got the powers… and do a video about why Libber being trapped in prime empire was scrapped.
I wonder how he gave it to Zane without him noticing.
This is a good analysis.
Cool ❄️
I think the master of ice asked dr. J to built zane because he couldn’t find anyone special so yeah that’s my thought
Please like this up so tanner can see it
No like begger
I think he chose Zane’s because he’s a *cold* and calculating machine with feelings
My theory is that he never got laid to pass his power to his child
So I heard that you said elemental power does not just die off if the host/hostess dies. Then what happened to the power of wind…
He received power back when he reached the world of the living .
0:54 what episode???
Keep the good work
My question is how the Golden weapons figure into any of this
It is confirmed in the last season that If a wielder of the elemental powers dies then it will transfer to a new person. I remember the overlord talking about killing the ninja and it will only continue this cycle of him being defeated later on and the only option would be to possess them. So even if the master of ice didn’t give his powers to Zane, it probably would’ve gotten to Zane anyway or to different person if the master of ice were to die.
I would like to see how do they pass on elemental power like do they focus and their power leaves their body and into the person they chose oh do they do something else
Beautiful 😍
But how did the master of ice pass his element onto a non-organic being
Uhm, maybe he patted his shoulder? He told him some special formula? He just laid his hands on him? :-)
I agree with the third choice I was writing the same theory but then I heard your theory then I started writing this
They should make ninjago back stories for each ninja but with the og looks
I mean Zane was made to protect those who cannot protect themselves
They should give us a backstory on how Zane got the powers.
I’m wondering how he actually put ice powers in Zane’s body really.
He was scattered in that forest 🌳
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How did New Zane get his powers back? If Zane were to be destroyed and rebuilt again, would he get his powers back again?
What I think is that the Elemental of Ice died in the forest and his soul was left in one of the animals (mabey a bird) in the forest. He wait patiently to see who could hold his elemental powers with a kind heart. When he saw Zane was "built" for kindness and protect others the Elemental of Ice chose Zane for his powers.
I think that Zane got his powers because due to being a robot, he can be a hero for years and years because he won't die after 1 human lifetime
When is the flashback of Wu meeting Zane in the winter forest? Also, when did the Master of Ice meet Zane?
Hi noice video thanks,early
What do you think the first spinjitzu master real name is?
I can’t find the very first season against garmadon and not the snakes. Where is it
I think it’s the 3rd theory as well!!!😃👍☮️❤️
*My thoughts on this matter:*
- The master of Ice fought against Acronix & Krux and was hit but wasn't affected by fast aging or visions of Zane.
- The master of Ice aged normally and at some point he decided it was the right time to pass his element on to the next master.
- He remembered his battle with Acronix & Krux and didn't want the next master to get affected by the time blades.
- He searched probably for a couple of years to someone with the right spirit and came across Zane & Julian in the woods.
- Zane showed him respect for others and talked to Zane, with at the end giving him the element of Ice.
- I personally think that Sensei Wu gets notified when a new master of an element is chosen. Maybe we'll see this later on.
- Julian didn't know that the man was the master of Ice or that Zane got the element of Ice.
- The old master of Ice went home and passed quietly at him home.
OHH MY GOSHHHH CRAZY IDEA what if zane gets his own solo series in 2023 and the plot would be the son of the previous master of ice thought he wa s getting the power passed on to him but instead it was passed on to zane a ninjroid and now we wants those powers
Who are the parents of the hands of time did one person have the power of time or two
will the Master of Ice return in Lego Ninjago Dragon Rising?
In my opinion, as you stated “depending on how they are used, they could do great harm” if I were an elemental master I would take “giving away my element” very seriously, and especially not give it to a robot since a robot can be vulnerable if it shut down which it did in season 8 against Mr. E, they could’ve easily corrupted Zane and used him for “great harm”
I feel that the master of ice new that he was dying and wanted a constant good that he could leave behind. He new Zane was an android and wouldn’t have to die of old age like he was
What if the master of ice was in the snow forest because he wanted to pass his power on some one who was close to the ice
that 3 theory makes sense but why hasent some one with moros power of wind came back yet am i right please tell me tho it does make sense
Wait
Wu canonically knew Zane was a robot all this time during season 1 ??
Honestly the powere to control Tim is op by the way what’s wus element
I believe the master of ice 🧊 chose Zane because he was getting older and also because he saw himself in Zane and saw that Zane is the future master of ice and that Zane is worthy of his element.
Hi tanner and everybody else