Actually, in the clip where JiDion was confronted by the girls and the security, at one bit in the middle of it where the girl was confronting JiDion about "How uncomfortable he was making everybody", you can see in clear view the face of one of the confronting girls with glasses on that was right next to the girl talking to JiDion, so I don't think that she got away too easily.
@@slicepie410 because people are wierd and would dox them which is not the way to handle negativity at all but it's not like creators can control thier entire fan base
@@Ben_C1905 who would dox the girls though? For what? The truth is that we don't even know what happened off-camera. Maybe their reaction was justified (although barely) or outright inappropriate...
I don't understand dsmp stans I cut ties with most of my friends because when I helped them through "depression" they said that dream kept the from k!lling themselves I was disgusted that they would fake this and then give credit to their parasocial relationship with a middle aged Minecraft youtuber
@@materialgworl69 they pay money for therapists and have a full family that cares for them. But guess what? A minecraft youtube cured their anxiety, depression, rabies, and suicidal thoughts.
@@AK_Productions500 Wow! guess we don't need any therapists, psychiatrists, psychologists etc. All we need to do is give em' some dsmp content and hope it clears and cures all their negative intrusive thoughts and mental illnesses 😊
i almost feel like tommy reacted the way he did because he heard from his fans that jidion was doing shit and blew it WAY out of proportion, so tommy's reaction was blown way out of proportion. my reaction to what jidion was doing would've been like that person in like who laughed when he ran by screaming that he touched tommy cause he was just being funny lmao
I had also said this in my comment, Tommy has the same problem a lot of young youtubers do and some even older youtubers. They believe the masses over the person, no matter the context.
@@evantheaxolotl8862 true, i feel like it comes from a place of fear that disagreeing with the masses will make them hate u, so tommy just went all in defending his fans
@@tweakextra yep, the fear of losing the following, or making mistakes, or being in the light Jidion is being in. Sometimes it can get really bad so I just hope it changes.
Also can I just say I feel like everyone there was freaked out because online they can talk trash back, but in real life they can’t always get away with it
Sure, you have a point but you also state that everyone there "meaning" all tommyinnit stans trash talk online. Yeah sure many people trash talk online but making the statement that all tommyinnit stans are trash talking minecrafters, I am sure you can agree on is not the case.
That may be the bigger problem here. They used to talking s*** online but when it comes to real life they know that they will get beat up so they're probably unused to real life drama. I mean what can you expect from people that stay in their rooms all day in a safe quiet space
Tbh the fans were after jdion, there was a part where he literally picked up a lady's fan for her and she told him to keep it like she was disgusted or something. Then when jdion said " Tommy you rock", the same lady had something else to say and jdion kept his cool and didn't even say nothing back.
but annoying as well, you would get a bit fed up of it, especially when he's doing it on purpose and making fun of you unintentionally or intentionally
It's such a boomer moment when someone overreacts in a hostile manner to children by lumping them together into one massive group and going on screeds acting like they're the worst people ever over the most mundane shit, like using TikTok or "overreacting", even though they're literally minors with underdeveloped brains.
@@victoriapulcifer6218 I’m a zoomer, and frankly this generation seems different. I believe that growing up within closeted internet groups with an absence of role models or outside exposure regresses development. It’s already been made worse with boomer parenting styles, and now I find myself least afraid when talking to those a generation before me. This all is largely limited to American/English speaking zoomers. It’s a cultural problem.
Those probably take his defense cause they want him to notice them. Or because they’ve never interacted with someone besides on Twitter, which is more likely.
@@CaramalGoddessFrFr Same, i have a twitter account but i don't use it at all, it's way too toxic for my time. Everyone there gets offended by half of the world that exist.
I mean, I understand them being annoyed of him yelling, I get easily irked when people make obnoxious noises and obnoxious movements (I live with two younger siblings so that’s probably why, could be something else but that’s a story for another day.), but they could’ve been nice about instead of being huge a-holes. And overall, the whole fucking situation was blown way out of proportion. But yeah, this was my opinion on the whole thing.
I honestly feel bad for Jidion smh. I imagine he saw Tommy's video and he seemed really pumped at the convention, and I bet the video just rewrote everything. People are assholes
As an autistic person I didn't really like when autism was used as an insult but nonetheless I agree that Tommy was kinda overreacting, I mean if someone made fun of me for what I like I would be upset but it isn't certainly that big of a deal
I think Tommy handled at the meet up well. Though he is still young, like most of us at least. Having trouble believing the person of the masses is quite common and a lot of youtubers struggle with that. Though, the fact the Tommy looked him in the eye and said “Jidion?” Knowing who he was and his behavior, but still went on record to say he was harassing and he snuck in… is a bit much. Edit: *I think you guys are misunderstanding my comment… I’m not defending Tommy. I’m merely saying that he should not believe his fans on every little thing and instead should create his own independent opinion, He needs to learn from his mistakes, this was one of those mistakes.*
@@bentenmenyen Different community, different content, different popularity, different countries, different household, different families, different people. We shouldn’t change judge by their mistakes, look what happened to cancel culture when that’s all we did. Instead we should constructively criticize them and teach them to grow.
@@bentenmenyen I typed up an entire paragraph, several actually. But never mind, it’s not good to debate over the Internet. Agree to disagree on character of the person?
honestly, if I was there I would feel a little uncomfortable if someone was screaming bloody murder in my ears. But at the same time just ignore it or move. People really don't get the picture
i love tommy's content and the other dream smp streamers, but i dont support the stans at all. (i honestly think of stans and fans as 2 different types of people in the fandom.) they overreact and can be really insulting i feel like jidion was just making fun of the stans which was honestly kinda funny. he wasn't harassing anyone honestly but i semi see how people just got a big annoyed? other than the yelling and the hair thing (i get it was a joke im not a snowflake) honestly i dont think he did anything super wrong honestly it was kinda funny seeing him just make fun of the crazy fans oh and just saying this is my *opinion* just before i start a possible war in the replies lol
Yea, just didn't like tommy calling jidion all that stuff and then not apologizing after he saw the evidence. I'm sure jidion doesn't care cuz he's just used to it know tbh.
Fan of Tommy? Why would you be a fan someone who takes his fans words and decides that they are automatically telling the truth and that jidion harassed them. He then proceeds to tell jidion to not post the video leaving him defenseless. Jidion still decides to post the video which clears his name yet Tommy hasn't commented on the situation nor given an apology for insulting and putting jidion's career in jeopardy. I don't see how you could be a fan of someone like that, but by all means you do you.
@@TSG_ As a TommyInnit fan, I think Tommy took things so literal because one), he's just a teenager and the ones those people made are serious accusations not to be taken lightly, and two) because Jidion has a history of harassment (like sending a hate raid to pokimane's stream). I do agree that he should have seen both sides and all the evidence before calling him out on stream, however he is just a teenager and he hasn't been to a meet & greet as large as twitchcon before, and he hasn't dealt with these serious of allegations before. Just keep in mind, he's just a kid. Also, where did he say not to post the video? I want to research more of the topic, and he didn't say it in this one. But trust me, not all of us MCYT fans are like this. I can see how Jidion came off as obnoxious or the stans felt like they were being made fun of for liking something, but personally, I don't think it was as bad as they made it out to be.
I don't think Tommy saw this part, I think his security told Tommy about it jiddy and Tommy believed him, I think if Tommy saw his video than he would belive jiddy, and wouldn't think he's bulling
I don't doubt he was having a good time, but he was most certainly being annoying and knew about it and therefore made it a less fun time for the people around him, and even after he knew this he carried on. Even if you disagree that you're harassing someone or being annoying, there's still a level of disrespect when you carry on after knowing you're annoying people.
@@jigglemyjam774 It was a joke however I do agree that he was being disrespectful. On another note, Tommy was being extremely over dramatic. Was he obnoxious? Yes. Was he harassing people and bullying his subs? Absolutely not.
I think what happened was tommy didn't really get the whole story because of how the girl over exaggerated her report about Jidion and when he went up to Tommy maybe Tommy was a bit confused since Jidion's whole point was to act like a super fan and got the wrong viewpoint that way? Or maybe he only heard of the report? I'm not 100% sure, I'm only 62% sure. Edit: I remembered Jidion's name
Still doesn't give a right to attack jidion publicly calling him a bunch of names off of accusation that had no proof whatsoever I mean dm the guy and just be like yo just want to know is this article true I wanna know because if so that's not cool man and I want you to apologise its not exactly crazy difficult he isn't some helpless child either the guy is 18
You realize what this means though, right? Tommy fans could make up some random drama about someone, Tommy fans will tell Tommy, Tommy would tell his whole audience, and now the victims career is basically over because some Tommy fan lied. Stop defending Tommy.
@@dylanperrill4949 what ? He literally calls him a pr**k I can't say the word because youtube the slightest mention of anything they deem inappropriate gets your comment taken down
Honestly, I went through something like this when I was at a Kpop concert. I was annoyed when the person behind me would not stop screaming and crying. She was the ONLY one who was screaming and crying loudly, and she was in my ear constantly. You could tell she was the only one because multiple people in front of me looked behind them to see who tf was crying for no reason. I get she was having fun. But damn.. .. also she would talk about them like they're children when they're grown adults idfk
Yeah we understand that fans get annoy if someone was so fcking loud but that's not the point though the point was the fans saying to Tommy that jidion harassing them
@@yk-who-it-is yeah I don't mean no offense and I understand what she's tryna say but like I said it's all good no offense or anything just having our thoughts here you know
I wont hate on the MCYT Fanbase entirely but the way Jideon was having fun was no excuse to straight up go call a battalion on this poor man. "*sIr, tHis.. THIS MAN. HE IS HARRASING ME*"
As someone who enjoys Tommy’s content and the other DSMP creators, I think this was the Stans blowing everything out of proportion. When Tommy was told he probably believed them because he had no other evidence. I think Jidion is a good guy and he was just trying to have a good time at twitch con and I feel really bad about what has gone around.
Understandable. Him believing his fans is ok, but going on stream and talking all that shi- about jidion? You can't just say that and make excuses like " he just put some faith in his fans" .
You realize what this means though, right? Tommy fans could make up some random drama about someone, Tommy fans will tell Tommy, Tommy would tell his whole audience, and now the victims career is basically over because some Tommy fan lied. Stop defending Tommy.
Trust dsmp stans to blow things out of proportion, lie, flip the story around, and seriously overreact about something that doesn't even directly affect them. Because it doesn't, bro wasn't harassing anybody, or bullying anybody.
I somewhat agree with you, but this is all coming from Jidion, and if he was harassing people, he most certainly wouldn't have put it in his own video.
@@killerbryne Because in the video, Acheeto mentions he knows the video will get mainly dislikes from Tommy stans and so the commenter here is probably referencing that.
You realize what this means though, right? Tommy fans could make up some random drama about someone, Tommy fans will tell Tommy, Tommy would tell his whole audience, and now the victims career is basically over because some Tommy fan lied. Stop defending Tommy.
Sure, the way Gideon acted may have been perceived as a bit obnoxious with valid reason, but it seems more like something to laugh about than to actually be upset at
The jet lag definitely got to Tommy when he addressed it lmao. Its still on his fans for only giving him half of the story to work with and just saying Jidion was in the wrong with no evidence to prove it.
@@LimpDiksimp naw tommy is annoying af and I rather bleach my ears than watch his content I just have the iq over a tadpole and can clearly see this isn’t about race
@@LimpDiksimp do you not have an own opinion and follow everything thos youtubers are saying? just becuase we have diffrent opinions about the situation doesent mean we are stans of tommy
Am i the only one that thinks these"fans" got annoyed from how loud jidion was but they spend hours watching tommy screaming while playing video games. I say this is racially motivated.
I like both creators and truly, tommyinnits fandom is all the same 13 year old she/theys and personally i think Tommy would be dumb to shit on his fans because that’s his job, he has to handle this the right way to hold his career, i bet he laughed watching the video
While I agree with most of what you said, I feel you should've at least mentioned how JiDion said he doesn't believe that this was Tommy's fault. To be fair his fans in question probably reported the harassment claim to Tommy directly and his security probably also had to report the claims even if JiDion didn't harass anyone. You gotta remember how strict security is at these conventions and that they have to take every claim seriously. And from how the security was reacting to the situation it sounds like they didn't review JiDions footage to see if he was telling the truth or not. Bad security honestly. I do also agree though that the reactions from the fans did feel racially motivated in some way. Even if it wasn't, the way they were acting was very uncalled for and felt like there was more of a motive than just being annoyed with his behavior. Like when he tried to help the one girl by picking up the fan she dropped, and all of a sudden she didn't even want to touch the fan anymore. It felt like she was disgusted by him to the point she didn't want to touch anything he touched. At least that's what I got from it. Also props to the security guy who was joking around and even laughed at JiDions reaction to meeting Tommy, he's cool.
Of course it was racially motivated. He was the only black dude there bruh💀. It's something about white chicks nowadays that make it known of how they don't care for black folks. Social Media is revealing that everyday more often now.
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wow. imagine being that rude because somone is having fun and yelling. but if jidion was a British white boy they would be yelling with him😮💨 AND girlie was fr syaing "hi again hi agian" when she was complaining abt him recording ppl's face🙈
If Jideon was a British white boy I would have been even more annoyed. And I'd Jideon were a British white boy 50% of the people in here supporting him wouldn't be in here supporting him.
I feel like Tommy only reacted the way he did because of what he heard from his fans who were overreacting, not 100% his fault but he should be looking at both sides before making claims.
Picture and these fans did rlly unnecessary stuff like accusing JiDion of harassment which is clearly false cuz of the footage , but anyways good vid Acheeto B)
It's more likely that tomnyinnit saw what his fans said and just believed it since that is probably what any creator would do in the situation just see there fans say it and roll with it
i’m a tommy innit enjoyer but i’m not apart of the weird part of the community i like tommy and jidion so this isn’t biased i think tommy and his fans were wrong jidion deserves an apology someone from the crowd told jidion that they found him funny so
Do people not realize that jidion does that overhyped reaction with any famous person he sees. He wasn’t even parodying Minecraft stans which honestly makes it sound worse than what he actually did. He was just doing his general reaction to famous creators and people.
I don't really watch DSMP or keep up with the fanbase, but their reaction to his yelling is pretty justified. I would be angry too if some random guy started yelling at a convention just to be annoying. Also, you saying that their negative reaction towards him is because he's black was a pretty dumb thing to say.
That’s where your wrong cause this is a live event and tons of others were yelling and excited it’s just he’s the loudest because he’s closest to the camera and he’s literally hyping it up and that’s still no excuse to say he’s a harassing you
Maybe Tommy got so upset because he wanted to have fun with his fans and he was screaming and being kinda annoying, still the fans of tommy were rude and overreacting. Anyway I think that people can’t get so offended on this things while there are serious things to worry about.
I don’t really see tommy getting worked up over nothing, so my guess is he’s basically just taking his fan’s word over jidion. Not that jidion did anything wrong, the fans are just overreacting.
The funniest thing is Tommy would do the exact same thing if he was in Jideon's position because they have a VERY similar sense of humor. Tommy has literally gone up to people and over reacted before on video.
Tommyinnit fans in general are very delusional and shouldn't get attention. Acheeto making a video on tommyinnit fans is their biggest achievement ever.
Being featured on a video made by someone who uses autism as a insult? What an achievement./sarcasm. Anyways, please don’t judge a whole fanbase based on the actions of not even a fraction of that fanbase.
@@yasminthespiritsinger7704 bruh theyre literally all like this and acheeto's video are for Intertaining purpose and he uses autism as an insult because the whole Minecraft community is brainwashed by that fatherless dmsp and in general are tommyinnit fans retarded
those girls = basically every single stan in existance, every stan, no matter what community is just like those girls no joke, they are legit everywhere and breaking society
what like that part were he calls Tommy's fans autistic because they were being annoyed by the person being annoying on purpose and clearly making fun of them.
what i bet happened is tommy innit was told about all the complaints and he remembered slight moments when jidion was screeching and thought that jidion mustve been doing alot more when he wasnt paying attention to him or seomthing
"The closest to a black person these kids have seen is a minecraft enderman" 😭
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hey im black but funni
If anything Jidion was the one being bullied 💀
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@@notify7581 u ainy
@@kempine7249 nice
Fr he was just being loud and obnoxious. They could have said it was hurting their ears and not be so rude about it
@@abbystewart3926 yeah
Jidion: *breathes*
Tommyinnit fans: yes officer this is the man that killed my family
Lmfao
Lol
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Fax Lmao
Those people that were saying he was "Harassing" them better be glad that there faces were covered because that could easily ruin their lives
Actually, in the clip where JiDion was confronted by the girls and the security, at one bit in the middle of it where the girl was confronting JiDion about "How uncomfortable he was making everybody", you can see in clear view the face of one of the confronting girls with glasses on that was right next to the girl talking to JiDion, so I don't think that she got away too easily.
mofuka, nobody cares
Why would it ruin their lives...?
@@slicepie410 because people are wierd and would dox them which is not the way to handle negativity at all but it's not like creators can control thier entire fan base
@@Ben_C1905 who would dox the girls though? For what? The truth is that we don't even know what happened off-camera. Maybe their reaction was justified (although barely) or outright inappropriate...
Jidion is carefree and a happy dude he did not care never got mad or anything I give respect to people like him
He for sure keeps his composure really well against “Karen” people I respect that too
Yes
@@evh4645 screaming like a lunatic is not keeping composure lmaooo
@@cataclysmicat9551 So true LMFAO
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On behalf of all the Minecraft players, we deeply apologize for all the 15 year old dream Stan’s that are like this
It makes me cringe
I don't understand dsmp stans I cut ties with most of my friends because when I helped them through "depression" they said that dream kept the from k!lling themselves I was disgusted that they would fake this and then give credit to their parasocial relationship with a middle aged Minecraft youtuber
@@materialgworl69 ikr.. a lot of them fake their mental illnesses.. its so pathetic
@ zen Yes it is. It makes me sick.
@@materialgworl69 they pay money for therapists and have a full family that cares for them. But guess what? A minecraft youtube cured their anxiety, depression, rabies, and suicidal thoughts.
@@AK_Productions500 Wow! guess we don't need any therapists, psychiatrists, psychologists etc. All we need to do is give em' some dsmp content and hope it clears and cures all their negative intrusive thoughts and mental illnesses 😊
i almost feel like tommy reacted the way he did because he heard from his fans that jidion was doing shit and blew it WAY out of proportion, so tommy's reaction was blown way out of proportion. my reaction to what jidion was doing would've been like that person in like who laughed when he ran by screaming that he touched tommy cause he was just being funny lmao
You mean they lied.
I had also said this in my comment, Tommy has the same problem a lot of young youtubers do and some even older youtubers. They believe the masses over the person, no matter the context.
@@Cosmystery basically
@@evantheaxolotl8862 true, i feel like it comes from a place of fear that disagreeing with the masses will make them hate u, so tommy just went all in defending his fans
@@tweakextra yep, the fear of losing the following, or making mistakes, or being in the light Jidion is being in. Sometimes it can get really bad so I just hope it changes.
Also can I just say I feel like everyone there was freaked out because online they can talk trash back, but in real life they can’t always get away with it
Sure, you have a point but you also state that everyone there "meaning" all tommyinnit stans trash talk online. Yeah sure many people trash talk online but making the statement that all tommyinnit stans are trash talking minecrafters, I am sure you can agree on is not the case.
That may be the bigger problem here. They used to talking s*** online but when it comes to real life they know that they will get beat up so they're probably unused to real life drama. I mean what can you expect from people that stay in their rooms all day in a safe quiet space
Tbh the fans were after jdion, there was a part where he literally picked up a lady's fan for her and she told him to keep it like she was disgusted or something. Then when jdion said " Tommy you rock", the same lady had something else to say and jdion kept his cool and didn't even say nothing back.
“I don’t want my fan. You’ve corrupted it with your blackness.”-Random Rude Lady(in her head)
he wasn't harassing anyone, he was just being goofy 💀
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but annoying as well, you would get a bit fed up of it, especially when he's doing it on purpose and making fun of you unintentionally or intentionally
@@jigglemyjam774 the point was he was joking, obviously doing it on purpose lmfaooo
@@jigglemyjam774 now you being goofy 💀
@@jadaurlove but joking at the expense of others
Tommyinnit's fan's faces aren't edited. That's actually what they look like.
Lol fax
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True but when tommy came out i heard other people screaming
@@yungcyberchild5779 😂
Nah they look more like sheep
It’s such a Zoomer moment when someone overreacts in a hostile manner to an individual and plays the victim to get brownie points.
yeah
they were acting like jidion was the first black person theyve ever seen
It's such a boomer moment when someone overreacts in a hostile manner to children by lumping them together into one massive group and going on screeds acting like they're the worst people ever over the most mundane shit, like using TikTok or "overreacting", even though they're literally minors with underdeveloped brains.
Wtf are brownie points
@@victoriapulcifer6218 I’m a zoomer, and frankly this generation seems different. I believe that growing up within closeted internet groups with an absence of role models or outside exposure regresses development. It’s already been made worse with boomer parenting styles, and now I find myself least afraid when talking to those a generation before me.
This all is largely limited to American/English speaking zoomers. It’s a cultural problem.
Those probably take his defense cause they want him to notice them. Or because they’ve never interacted with someone besides on Twitter, which is more likely.
lol
I stay of Twitter. It's evil. The Jideon people are the Twitter people. It's the only thing that makes sense. They're so malicious.
@@CaramalGoddessFrFr Same, i have a twitter account but i don't use it at all, it's way too toxic for my time. Everyone there gets offended by half of the world that exist.
they probably stank
The good part about this situation is JiDion getting the last laugh.
I mean, I understand them being annoyed of him yelling, I get easily irked when people make obnoxious noises and obnoxious movements (I live with two younger siblings so that’s probably why, could be something else but that’s a story for another day.), but they could’ve been nice about instead of being huge a-holes. And overall, the whole fucking situation was blown way out of proportion. But yeah, this was my opinion on the whole thing.
I honestly feel bad for Jidion smh. I imagine he saw Tommy's video and he seemed really pumped at the convention, and I bet the video just rewrote everything. People are assholes
As an autistic person I didn't really like when autism was used as an insult but nonetheless I agree that Tommy was kinda overreacting, I mean if someone made fun of me for what I like I would be upset but it isn't certainly that big of a deal
Don't feel like you are worse than others just because you have autism. Have a good day
cool I guess
this si the exact comment i was looking for, im not autistic though i do agree it should not be used as an insult even if the fans were in the wrong
I use it as in insult
@@Skyway_Octane I don't know what to tell you man, good job?
My god these people just can't take a joke. I did not expect these stans/fans to be the same in real life as online.
its what happens when you're chronically online😭
no reason to use autism as an insult dawg
I think Tommy handled at the meet up well. Though he is still young, like most of us at least. Having trouble believing the person of the masses is quite common and a lot of youtubers struggle with that. Though, the fact the Tommy looked him in the eye and said “Jidion?” Knowing who he was and his behavior, but still went on record to say he was harassing and he snuck in… is a bit much.
Edit: *I think you guys are misunderstanding my comment… I’m not defending Tommy. I’m merely saying that he should not believe his fans on every little thing and instead should create his own independent opinion, He needs to learn from his mistakes, this was one of those mistakes.*
you say "young" when I am pretty sure Acheeto is younger then Tommy and well, knows Tommy handled it poorly
@@bentenmenyen Different community, different content, different popularity, different countries, different household, different families, different people. We shouldn’t change judge by their mistakes, look what happened to cancel culture when that’s all we did. Instead we should constructively criticize them and teach them to grow.
@@evantheaxolotl8862 How does that disprove my point at all...
@@bentenmenyen I typed up an entire paragraph, several actually. But never mind, it’s not good to debate over the Internet. Agree to disagree on character of the person?
@@evantheaxolotl8862 what is u going on abt😹😹
I love jidion he gives off so much positive energy, shame that those fans had to do him like that
Notice how all the kids there were white and jidion was the only black guy 💀
“How dare you disrespect tommy” 💀
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@@notify7581 yeah I can see this
@@BushyBushyy thanks
@@notify7581 np
Bro wasn't even disrespecting tommy it was the fans
honestly, if I was there I would feel a little uncomfortable if someone was screaming bloody murder in my ears. But at the same time just ignore it or move. People really don't get the picture
true, and those fans were saying he's harassing them while they were actively putting themselves on camera + the spotlight by making snarky comments..
if u told him to shutup or even staff he complied so just ask nicely and dont be a dickhead
Boy i hope tommy watches the vod and sort thus out, lets not make a clearly solved situation worse
Jidion: * breathes *
Tommy’s fans: and I took that personally
i love tommy's content and the other dream smp streamers, but i dont support the stans at all. (i honestly think of stans and fans as 2 different types of people in the fandom.) they overreact and can be really insulting
i feel like jidion was just making fun of the stans which was honestly kinda funny. he wasn't harassing anyone honestly but i semi see how people just got a big annoyed? other than the yelling and the hair thing (i get it was a joke im not a snowflake) honestly i dont think he did anything super wrong
honestly it was kinda funny seeing him just make fun of the crazy fans
oh and just saying this is my *opinion* just before i start a possible war in the replies lol
Yea, just didn't like tommy calling jidion all that stuff and then not apologizing after he saw the evidence. I'm sure jidion doesn't care cuz he's just used to it know tbh.
Are ya kidding Stan literally means stalker fan there is a giant different
@@renegadedragoon6128 exactly, I hate when good fans call themselves stans, because in reality, they aren’t stans
Fan of Tommy? Why would you be a fan someone who takes his fans words and decides that they are automatically telling the truth and that jidion harassed them. He then proceeds to tell jidion to not post the video leaving him defenseless. Jidion still decides to post the video which clears his name yet Tommy hasn't commented on the situation nor given an apology for insulting and putting jidion's career in jeopardy. I don't see how you could be a fan of someone like that, but by all means you do you.
@@TSG_ As a TommyInnit fan, I think Tommy took things so literal because one), he's just a teenager and the ones those people made are serious accusations not to be taken lightly, and two) because Jidion has a history of harassment (like sending a hate raid to pokimane's stream).
I do agree that he should have seen both sides and all the evidence before calling him out on stream, however he is just a teenager and he hasn't been to a meet & greet as large as twitchcon before, and he hasn't dealt with these serious of allegations before. Just keep in mind, he's just a kid.
Also, where did he say not to post the video? I want to research more of the topic, and he didn't say it in this one.
But trust me, not all of us MCYT fans are like this. I can see how Jidion came off as obnoxious or the stans felt like they were being made fun of for liking something, but personally, I don't think it was as bad as they made it out to be.
I don't think Tommy saw this part, I think his security told Tommy about it jiddy and Tommy believed him, I think if Tommy saw his video than he would belive jiddy, and wouldn't think he's bulling
The thing is he knows about the video and insisted jidion deletes it
Jidion: has a good time at a meet and greet
Tommy innit: "no fun allowed >:("
I don't doubt he was having a good time, but he was most certainly being annoying and knew about it and therefore made it a less fun time for the people around him, and even after he knew this he carried on. Even if you disagree that you're harassing someone or being annoying, there's still a level of disrespect when you carry on after knowing you're annoying people.
@@jigglemyjam774 It was a joke however I do agree that he was being disrespectful. On another note, Tommy was being extremely over dramatic. Was he obnoxious? Yes. Was he harassing people and bullying his subs? Absolutely not.
@@fail2thrive262 agreed
The craziest part is the fact JiDion addressed the issue in real-time in the video
I think what happened was tommy didn't really get the whole story because of how the girl over exaggerated her report about Jidion and when he went up to Tommy maybe Tommy was a bit confused since Jidion's whole point was to act like a super fan and got the wrong viewpoint that way? Or maybe he only heard of the report? I'm not 100% sure, I'm only 62% sure.
Edit: I remembered Jidion's name
Still doesn't give a right to attack jidion publicly calling him a bunch of names off of accusation that had no proof whatsoever I mean dm the guy and just be like yo just want to know is this article true I wanna know because if so that's not cool man and I want you to apologise its not exactly crazy difficult he isn't some helpless child either the guy is 18
@@Ben_C1905 You're right, I hope this situation gets better soon
You realize what this means though, right? Tommy fans could make up some random drama about someone, Tommy fans will tell Tommy, Tommy would tell his whole audience, and now the victims career is basically over because some Tommy fan lied. Stop defending Tommy.
@BenCalderwood did you even watch the video he doesn't call his name's you just want a reason to hate Tommy
@@dylanperrill4949 what ? He literally calls him a pr**k I can't say the word because youtube the slightest mention of anything they deem inappropriate gets your comment taken down
Honestly, I went through something like this when I was at a Kpop concert.
I was annoyed when the person behind me would not stop screaming and crying.
She was the ONLY one who was screaming and crying loudly, and she was in my ear constantly.
You could tell she was the only one because multiple people in front of me looked behind them to see who tf was crying for no reason.
I get she was having fun.
But damn.. ..
also she would talk about them like they're children when they're grown adults idfk
Yeah we understand that fans get annoy if someone was so fcking loud but that's not the point though the point was the fans saying to Tommy that jidion harassing them
@@thrumpdonald3123 racism probably ( the fans). But I don't know how Tomm
y reacted
@@FreakyOverhaul it's all good though
@@yk-who-it-is yeah I don't mean no offense and I understand what she's tryna say but like I said it's all good no offense or anything just having our thoughts here you know
Idk why Tommy’s fans are so mad at Jdion
They don’t think their idol could do anything wrong. And tommy defends those parasocials
Tommy fans are little kids or grown adults with the minds of 3 year olds.
cuz theyve never seen a poc😭😭
@@meowiebby true
@@jrortz1982 to be fair I don’t think Tommy knew what was going on. he just heard that jdion was being mean to his fans
jidion: *breathes*
Tommyinit fans: *Please save me he has a gun to my head he is harassing me my life is in danger*
I wont hate on the MCYT Fanbase entirely but the way Jideon was having fun was no excuse to straight up go call a battalion on this poor man.
"*sIr, tHis.. THIS MAN. HE IS HARRASING ME*"
It’s always the gen s British girls that be like: lit’s REaLLynOt tHAt fUnNy”
As someone who enjoys Tommy’s content and the other DSMP creators, I think this was the Stans blowing everything out of proportion. When Tommy was told he probably believed them because he had no other evidence. I think Jidion is a good guy and he was just trying to have a good time at twitch con and I feel really bad about what has gone around.
Understandable. Him believing his fans is ok, but going on stream and talking all that shi- about jidion? You can't just say that and make excuses like " he just put some faith in his fans" .
Yeah same I feel bad for the guy like they over reacted competely and threw this situation competely out of proportion
Never understand how you could enjoy that
You realize what this means though, right? Tommy fans could make up some random drama about someone, Tommy fans will tell Tommy, Tommy would tell his whole audience, and now the victims career is basically over because some Tommy fan lied. Stop defending Tommy.
There is an evidence though....AND THAT'S THE FCKING VIDEO THAT JIDION HAVE, AND HE SAID TO DELETE IT!
“he’s calling him hot”
have you never seen a black gay person🤨?
They went home and took BLM out of their bios
The girl be saying that it’s uncomfortable of them filming and 1 second later she says “hello” at the camera, TWICE!
Trust dsmp stans to blow things out of proportion, lie, flip the story around, and seriously overreact about something that doesn't even directly affect them. Because it doesn't, bro wasn't harassing anybody, or bullying anybody.
Tf is dmsp
I will say it would be very annoying to have someone yelling at the top of their lungs but, other than that there was no harassment what so ever
I somewhat agree with you, but this is all coming from Jidion, and if he was harassing people, he most certainly wouldn't have put it in his own video.
Watch everyone in the comments like “ I LOVE TOMMY QUIT DISRESPECTING HIM” This is gonna suck oh no
tf are you on about
@@killerbryne Because in the video, Acheeto mentions he knows the video will get mainly dislikes from Tommy stans and so the commenter here is probably referencing that.
As a DSMP fan and MCYT's fan, yes. These fans r idiots and Tommy overreacted a little bit- But yeah, not everybody is like this in this fandom ;)
Agreed (minus the winky face)
@@frownie_kittie LMAO I THINK THEY MET A SMILEY FACE-😨
@@kaylina1483 LOL
You realize what this means though, right? Tommy fans could make up some random drama about someone, Tommy fans will tell Tommy, Tommy would tell his whole audience, and now the victims career is basically over because some Tommy fan lied. Stop defending Tommy.
@@tylerd.1 it was just a friendly mistake ;)));):)) ❤️ tommy is my father and he is always right just a slip up :) :3
4 words for the tommyinnit fans, ''Colored hair and pronouns''😂
I'm sorry to tell you- you have coloured hair and pronouns-
LOL, so true
Lmao true
Fax.
yo whats your pronouns?
Hallo, years from now this message will be seen in the future
And I will be the first to reply to it
O:
I am proud to take the 3rd comment spot
"He was being weird and calling him hot" also the millions of dsmp. Weird tik tok edits
A little correction, only sick people call Tommy ''hot'' in those tik tok edits, and everyone hates them inside the fandom
And the entirety of poppytwt
Sure, the way Gideon acted may have been perceived as a bit obnoxious with valid reason, but it seems more like something to laugh about than to actually be upset at
The jet lag definitely got to Tommy when he addressed it lmao.
Its still on his fans for only giving him half of the story to work with and just saying Jidion was in the wrong with no evidence to prove it.
“We want tommy”
03:10 bruh no he is screaming that’s why they are pissed some people are just getting mad at that but it has nothing to do with him being black 🤦♂️
L
Ong I swear I’m so tired of ppl making everything about race
@@imaginebird399 Tommy stan
@@LimpDiksimp naw tommy is annoying af and I rather bleach my ears than watch his content I just have the iq over a tadpole and can clearly see this isn’t about race
@@LimpDiksimp do you not have an own opinion and follow everything thos youtubers are saying? just becuase we have diffrent opinions about the situation doesent mean we are stans of tommy
They made false accusations, worse than actual harassment.
So many people crying in the comments because Acheeto is only spitting facts
Ye
Jidion: TOMMY!
Tommyinnit stans: So, this guy started world war 3 burned down 5 houses and also killed scientists.
very simple and accurate summary
This
Am i the only one that thinks these"fans" got annoyed from how loud jidion was but they spend hours watching tommy screaming while playing video games. I say this is racially motivated.
😵💫 god damn u tell them
Can you please not call anyone who isn't Autistic "Autistic"?
Thanks
are you actually offended by this?
@@robcris_ yes
Emily removed BLM from her bio after meeting jidion.
I like both creators and truly, tommyinnits fandom is all the same 13 year old she/theys and personally i think Tommy would be dumb to shit on his fans because that’s his job, he has to handle this the right way to hold his career, i bet he laughed watching the video
While I agree with most of what you said, I feel you should've at least mentioned how JiDion said he doesn't believe that this was Tommy's fault. To be fair his fans in question probably reported the harassment claim to Tommy directly and his security probably also had to report the claims even if JiDion didn't harass anyone. You gotta remember how strict security is at these conventions and that they have to take every claim seriously. And from how the security was reacting to the situation it sounds like they didn't review JiDions footage to see if he was telling the truth or not. Bad security honestly.
I do also agree though that the reactions from the fans did feel racially motivated in some way. Even if it wasn't, the way they were acting was very uncalled for and felt like there was more of a motive than just being annoyed with his behavior. Like when he tried to help the one girl by picking up the fan she dropped, and all of a sudden she didn't even want to touch the fan anymore. It felt like she was disgusted by him to the point she didn't want to touch anything he touched. At least that's what I got from it.
Also props to the security guy who was joking around and even laughed at JiDions reaction to meeting Tommy, he's cool.
Of course it was racially motivated. He was the only black dude there bruh💀.
It's something about white chicks nowadays that make it known of how they don't care for black folks.
Social Media is revealing that everyday more often now.
if there’s actually tommy fans that feel as if jidion is in the wrong, please reply. i feel like arguing
Acheeto i mean this in absolute respect, you don’t have to make connections with racism just because Jidion is black
Part of this was definitely because jidion was black, sorry bro that's how the world is.
It’s a bad idea assuming something is racially motivated
@@kylehamilton6560 very bad indeed
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Kinda gay
BRO
that girl snitching had a lesbian flag thingy so why does she think its weird for him to call him hot.😭😭
ngl the calling them racist part is a little uncalled for 😬
Notification squad
Yes
Let's gooooo
@@notify7581 indeed mr notify bell
Yep
Yessir
Pov: *A TommyInnit fan saw this*
"ARMY ASSEMBLE, WE SHALL DISLIKE THIS VIDEO SO IT GETS DELETED OF RUclips!"
wow. imagine being that rude because somone is having fun and yelling. but if jidion was a British white boy they would be yelling with him😮💨 AND girlie was fr syaing "hi again hi agian" when she was complaining abt him recording ppl's face🙈
If Jideon was a British white boy I would have been even more annoyed. And I'd Jideon were a British white boy 50% of the people in here supporting him wouldn't be in here supporting him.
yeah jidion was getting bullied 💀 to be fair ion think tommy really knew what was goin on n was just going off his fans' word
I feel like Tommy only reacted the way he did because of what he heard from his fans who were overreacting, not 100% his fault but he should be looking at both sides before making claims.
Am just out here trying to find hate comments
I am too just look at the new comments to find them
Me too
Picture and these fans did rlly unnecessary stuff like accusing JiDion of harassment which is clearly false cuz of the footage , but anyways good vid Acheeto B)
It's more likely that tomnyinnit saw what his fans said and just believed it since that is probably what any creator would do in the situation just see there fans say it and roll with it
Ye thats what jidion said on his video and told his fans not to hate on him
@@AvalRed Yeah exactly
LMFAOOO "WE WANT TOMMY WE WANT TOMMY" Lol.
“He’s filming people and it’s making me uncomfortable!“ (says hello to the camera like twice 😐)
i’m a tommy innit enjoyer but i’m not apart of the weird part of the community i like tommy and jidion so this isn’t biased i think tommy and his fans were wrong jidion deserves an apology someone from the crowd told jidion that they found him funny so
Not enough people talking about this
1:08 i have a youtube extension that shows dislikes and it only has 44 dislikes lmao
the thumbnail 💀💀💀
Jidion is too hilarious 😂 but fr tho tommy’s fans bullshitting
I honestly see how people could be upset about issue. They’re pretty much being made fun of. But to be honest it’s not that deep.
Do people not realize that jidion does that overhyped reaction with any famous person he sees. He wasn’t even parodying Minecraft stans which honestly makes it sound worse than what he actually did. He was just doing his general reaction to famous creators and people.
The word “harassment” is thrown around so much that it’s worth less than the current American dollar
I don't really watch DSMP or keep up with the fanbase, but their reaction to his yelling is pretty justified. I would be angry too if some random guy started yelling at a convention just to be annoying. Also, you saying that their negative reaction towards him is because he's black was a pretty dumb thing to say.
That’s where your wrong cause this is a live event and tons of others were yelling and excited it’s just he’s the loudest because he’s closest to the camera and he’s literally hyping it up and that’s still no excuse to say he’s a harassing you
have you ever been to a meeting and greet, or anything of some sort? have you ever heard the people in there?
That girl:he scream because of a parody so he's harassing me
Maybe Tommy got so upset because he wanted to have fun with his fans and he was screaming and being kinda annoying, still the fans of tommy were rude and overreacting. Anyway I think that people can’t get so offended on this things while there are serious things to worry about.
I actually found it genuinely funny how excited Jidion got 😂
The autism line was ableist and I don’t think a RUclipsr with thousands of followers should just be screaming that as a insult
cry about it loser LMAAAOOOOOO
That was crossing a line.
Bro it's just a joke dude
@@maxalone_yt4243 Man you don't know whats real and not these days
@@lilgwumpy3374 true
Acheeto spitin facts here about how ridiculously glass-like most fans minds are when someone does even a little joke about Tommy
But seriously it is so dumb how they think making an not so exaggerated joke about how these fans act can be called “harassment”
I don’t really see tommy getting worked up over nothing, so my guess is he’s basically just taking his fan’s word over jidion. Not that jidion did anything wrong, the fans are just overreacting.
@@yk-who-it-is precisely.
The funniest thing is Tommy would do the exact same thing if he was in Jideon's position because they have a VERY similar sense of humor. Tommy has literally gone up to people and over reacted before on video.
Any fan or Stan of any mc RUclipsr completely over reacts to everything and don't get me started on dream stans
Honestly the ones that were saying anything to him should've just stayed quiet. They didn't have to be rude or accuse things
Tommyinnit fans in general are very delusional and shouldn't get attention. Acheeto making a video on tommyinnit fans is their biggest achievement ever.
Being featured on a video made by someone who uses autism as a insult? What an achievement./sarcasm.
Anyways, please don’t judge a whole fanbase based on the actions of not even a fraction of that fanbase.
@@yasminthespiritsinger7704 bruh theyre literally all like this and acheeto's video are for Intertaining purpose and he uses autism as an insult because the whole Minecraft community is brainwashed by that fatherless dmsp and in general are tommyinnit fans retarded
she said "hello there" and "hello again" LIKE LMAO.
those girls = basically every single stan in existance, every stan, no matter what community is just like those girls no joke, they are legit everywhere and breaking society
Tommyinnit>>>>>>Tommyinnit fans
I'm very sick and watching your videos make my day better!
I hope you get better soon 👍
@@itsbeans-time9941 thank you
No problem
“Gonna get flooded”
Runs past the flood blueprint*
So many great points in this video.
Some of the things you said had me dying 😂
like the part where acheeto says its a black/white situation?
what like that part were he calls Tommy's fans autistic because they were being annoyed by the person being annoying on purpose and clearly making fun of them.
So now I’m being hated for liking someone’s content
@@Southeastracing09 never said I hated you, but in my eyes I cant see why you'd like this content when its so obviously stupid and offensive
what i bet happened is tommy innit was told about all the complaints and he remembered slight moments when jidion was screeching and thought that jidion mustve been doing alot more when he wasnt paying attention to him or seomthing