7 Crazy Things That Don't Make Sense on a Cruise (And Why They're Like That)
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
- Why are cruise ship pools so small? Why do you pay gratuities before you sail? And why is the ship in port for only a few hours?
When it comes to cruising, there are some weird things that don't seem to make sense at first glance. Dig a little deeper, however, and you start to see why things are the way they are.
We've tackled 7 crazy things about cruising... along with answers as to why they are like that.
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Tiny pools means less people wasting time in a pool....and more people spending money around the ship.
Spend money on what? The logic should be bigger pools, so that people don´t eat and drink so mutch at all the free (included in price) buffets. The reason is big pools make the ship unstable and small waves will make the poolwater splash heavily around the bigger the pool is.
@@RnRoadkills
Yes...the stability/weight is a given.
Where to spend money.??.... in the shops, drinks, spa, and all other not included amenities.
I don't see why they even have pools.
Hot tubs and a kiddy pool are fine.
I haven't used a pool in 26 years of cruising.
Dangic23 People spend waaay more time sitting by the pool, than being in the pool. Not just on cruises, but anywhere with a poolarea. The pool is not for swimming, but to -dip in- to cool down. Bigger or smaller pools will not have any effect of people spending more money.
I think it depends more on weight. How much the deck can handle, design etc. Like dont forget that unlike on land that has the ground to support it. Pools on ships have to keep in mind that the are suspended in the decks. Weight limits literally stop having big pools. Thats why some ships have 4 or more
The majority of shit on a cruise in included and doesn't have to be payed for
When tipping is mandatory is not a tip, you are paying their salary
It's a step in the right direction imo. Include the cost of 'tips' in the price and PAY YOUR STAFF would be the real move.
@@lukerowley1613 They follow the laws of whatever country they are registered to when it comes to employees.
@97RAVINEAVE Right, but everywhere else, customers pay companies who pay staff. No need for customers to pay staff directly, it's just a mess.
@97RAVINEAVE I've had trash service at places with tips. Not sure you have a point. Do you get upset when you buy... groceries and the person takes forever to ring up your sale?
Company would get a bad rep and fire the bad employees, like in all other retail sectors.
The principle of prepaid gratuities is such an American thing. In other countries workers are actually paid and don't rely as heavily on the mercy of their patrons.
I was thinking, maybe I'm too European to understand.
@@LM1C144 Fellow European here! And yep, I really don't understand it either.
Not on ships. If the vessel travels through international waters and ports they can scalp the pay of the crew.
Latin american here, and I was wndering the same thing. Tips are not mandatory because people have salaries. Don't cruise ship people have salaries? isn't the tip like an extra something for an outstanding service?
@@luisaramos6862 they have salaries but they are lousy....
Nope, we crew members don't receive the prepaid tips. It all stays with the company, at least the company I worked with, we never saw the color of that money and we were also not allowed to share this info with the guests.
Anniely Moraes - can you give us a company name? Or a hint? 😉
Robin Im with you! I always thought that too went to them so I would never give a cash tip assuming it was already covered!
That's terrible! We always give envelopes to key people, every cruise. Cabin steward, maitre d', waiters, favourite bar stewards etc.
Same with me! I worked in a salon on a ship, never saw a dime of a tip.
Robin, mine was Raddison Cruise Ship in Tahiti...it was 15 years ago or so. Hopefully it has changed.
@@Travelin_Gal Probably not. He almost certainly signed a non-disclosure agreement with the cruise line.
Weirdest thing to me was the evening magician served me bacon the next morning.
On our most recent cruise there was a female crewmember working three different jobs. Dining room attendant, Bartender and Photo Op Model (Mermaid costume).
@@crscott9908 we do have side jobs, usually 20usd per gig or hour. depends on difficulty level :)
As former crew member I can guarantee you that more money was made with the old time envelope system than prepaid.
Cruise companies are not sharing 100% of the tips with the crew
That's so sad and frustrating to hear. You would think the cashless system would be easier for everyone until greed kicks in!!
Wendy Schultz They basically have total control of the money. Old days, old ships were definitely better.. hard work but we made some decent money.
I always felt that was true. On Carnival, I get my prepaid gratuities back and pay my service staff in cash
I took my 1st cruise in 2003... I'm curious, when was the "envelope system" in effect? Back in the 80's or 90's? 🤔
Cheryl Jones I worked from 94-97 in Royal.. envelope system was in place
98-2000 in NCL; i left when they introduce the freestyle cruising in 2000 on the Norwegian Sky. They did it gradually .. afterwards all other companies followed
Another reason stays in port are short: when in port, you're not spending money on the ship!
They cannot open the casino until they are out to sea. It is also much safer for passengers if they are not at the port after dark. Also, you don't want passengers getting so wasted from drinking that they miss the ship.
But port visits ARE what bring some people aboard the ship in the first place...
Don't forget about what the ports charge the cruise lines for docking and the length of time they are docked.
@@largol33t1 You can still advertise a port visit if it is short, and with short visits you can fit in more, and advertise more of them, even if many passengers want longer stops.
No... we are on a strict schedule for cruise to cruise!
Why not pay the staff a living wage and charge the cruisers accordingly, and eliminate expected tipping? I’m all for giving a tip for exceptional service, but if someone gives good service - that’s their job. That’s how it works in my country.
My family don't pay these gratuities in this way at all. Before the cruise we cancel any automatic gratuities. And we tip accordingly to those who deserve it.
So what is a “living wage”? I think the answer depends on where you live. In the US the median annual income is $33,700 (2018 stats). The median annual income in Indonesia is $13,436. Business insider reported in 2018 that the average median income for cruise ship employees was $2,600 a month. That’s $31,200 annually. So... do we pay cruise ship employees a “living wage” based on the country they are from? If so, I think a lot of people will be seeing drastic pay reductions... I spoke at length with a server on a past cruise who worked for the same cruise line for 21 years. He was retiring a few months after we spoke and was telling me how he made enough money to put his 2 kids through college, pay his house off AND buy an apartment building with 6 apartments that he and his wife will manage when he returns home. He doesn’t have to go find another job and his wife doesn’t either. Now, you tell me how many people in the US can work for 21 years, have college tuition and a mortgage paid off and buy an apartment complex without borrowing a dime...
Barry McCool that’s my entire point. The comment was made pay a living wage... who is defining what that is? Making $33,000 a year may be below your idea of a living wage but is obviously well above for someone in Jakarta. Not every country has a ridiculously inflated cost of living like the US does.
Barry McCool exactly Barry... makes a difference where you choose to live. Don’t bitch and whine about wanting a living wage when you choose to live where it costs 4 times more to live. Don’t be offended for someone else because you don’t think they make enough money. If I don’t think I make enough (hence a living wage) then I need to find another job. If cruise ship workers don’t like what they make they can find another job. And yes, my $250k house in SC would easily be a million dollars in California. That’s ridiculous. But if you choose to pay that and live there don’t complain your McDonalds job isn’t paying a living wage. Just the same... don’t complain that cruise ship employees don’t make a living wage when they are making 2 1/2 times more than the median annual income where they choose to live...
Gareth Nobrega I thought about doing that too except by doing that the people who are not as visible but working just as hard do not get tipped. It is better to leave most of your automatic tip and then top up the people who you think were especially attentive to you by handing them something extra directly at the end.
My idea a a great cruise would be crawling through the engine room and other mechanical spaces.
I'm with you - I'd love to tour the mechanical parts of the ship. I have more interest in seeing a huge diesel engine and generators than touring a spa or meal prep area. I'm just weird like that. Sounds like you are too.
@@dplumpkin
Yes I'm a odd one too. 😀
I'm a aircraft engineer so I get to crawl in engines and fuel tanks and up inside the tails of some of the largest aircraft around, but a nice holiday would certainly be crawling around a ship. 😀
@@johno9507 I've often been accused of being an engineer, but I only play one on TV. I was in IT for my career, but that leads to a detailed, technical mindset. On my first cruise (on NCL's Jade) they offered a "shore excursion" of the technical parts of the ship (including the engine room and the bridge), but I declined to pay $50 for what I thought should be offered for free. I wish now I had taken it! That has never been offered again on any cruises I've been on - and that includes 3 other NCL ships. If you ever see it offered, jump on it!
I used to love giving tours around the engine room and other nether parts - probably not possible these days - sad🥺
Nope at allowed for safety reasons (guest and ship)
Tipping should be removed in all forms. Outstanding service and paying employees should be the owners responsibility, works in other countries and they have the best service. Tipping just invites prejudice. When you have outstanding service and get no tips that day it can be tough.
Oh my gosh thank you for saying this. I hate how tipping is socially forced on you. And I just don't know why businesses just can't pay their employees enough, they shouldn't have to depend on tips
Tipping also enables people to control thier income and potentially make absolutely ridiculous amounts of money they may otherwise have been unable too.
I remember working at a sushi restaurant downtown and making over 100 dollars a night with no education. The girls tho, they were making 300 a night.
The key to working tipoed jobs is similar to working hourly jobs: Dont settle. Dont stay at places where your not being compensated properly longer than absolutely necessary. Dont stay at Walmart earning 10 dollars an hour at part time. Go to a call center where you make 15 an hour at full time.
Don't keep waiting tables at IHOP. Go wait table at a nice steakhouse where you get tipped 20 to 30 dollars a table.
I freaking agree with you... Im a cook in cruise ship... We dont have tips onky the people from bars, restaurants and staterooms and the crazy thing is they have higher salary and high percent of service charges received than us. Its so unfair.
No one would be able to afford a cruise if tipping was added to the cost.
@@gingerweiland749 there is no difference of affording one over the other if tipping is required for the cruise. Same amount of money
I would have thought the reason there’s no cash onboard ships is because a ship has lots of different people from different nationalities, if a waiter only had Euros but you paid with dollars, the money exchange would be more difficult.
That's what I was thinking.
That was what I always thought too
You pay for very little on a ship. And even when you do pay for a specialty food or for alcoholic drinks or even souvenirs from some shops, having them charged to the cabin is simply a convenience!
Consider HOTELS on land:
Room service? Charged to room.
Meal in their restaurant? Charged to room.
Snack from gift shop/back counter etc? Charged to room.
Why wouldn’t a floating hotel do the same?
Actually no. Where ever the ship left from is their currency. And their staff is paid in that currency too.
Why not use a debit/credit card
"I didn't know they had a wave machine in the pool". They didn't , rough seas.
Man I miss cruising so much! Can’t wait to finally be able to cruise again!
I was thinking the same thing!!!
I want go out 😤😤😱😨😰😭
Yeah here here
It’s the worst kind of holiday for the environment, otherwise I would go back, as well
@randumz randumz dude life in general is a breeding ground for germs and pathogens.
The American tipping culture is just that, a thing particular to the US. Thank god I cruise with a European company where you don't have to do this mandatory gratuity thing. We tip after we get could service :-).
tipping started in europe
@@RustyDodd And the US made it an industry...
I've only taken 1 cruise, 7 days, 6 islands in the Caribbean, and one of the things I liked best about it was exploring an island, go to bed, and next day you're at a new location.
We were on one Mediterranean cruise and while on land we tasted some delicious wines, bought two bottles which only cost 10 euro each, and couldn't wait to have them with our dinner. When we asked our server, that evening, to open our wine for us we found a $30/US corkage fee added to our bill, we were shocked and unhappy. At the next port we headed for a grocery store and bought a corkscrew for 2 euros and enjoyed our wine without any fees attached. From that day forward we always pack a corkscrew/bottle opener in our checked luggage.
You were lucky they didn’t “hold” your wine bottles until the end of the cruise. This what RC does on cruises to Mexico / Caribbean out of Texas.
@@MB-uy5kh I went to Cozumel out of FL and brought wine.. they never held it. That is odd!
You ever tried to take your own wine into a restaurant at home? IF they allowed it, you WOULD be charged a “corking fee” as well. Gee...why not just take your own meal in too?
This is about one thing, and one thing only. Being CHEAP. If you want wine with your meal, pay the corking fee or order their wine. Do NOT expect a cruise line to let you take ANY alcohol bought in port to your cabin. It is standard policy that they take it and hold it until the end of the cruise.
Buy your discounted alcohol to take home and enjoy!
(Source - I’m a travel agent of 24 years and frequent cruiser.)
Robin I don’t think it’s unreasonable to want to drink wine or alcohol you buy on holiday, while on holiday. I wouldn’t bring it into a restaurant, but why not drink it in your cabin? You’d be able to drink it in a hotel room. For a cruise company to confiscate your own purchased alcohol until you leave the ship is nothing short of pure greed.
deeprose4 I understand, but what is being overlooked by so many is that the cruise lines ARE a business. If people smuggle alcohol on board and don’t buy it on the ship, it hurts the bottom line of the cruise lines. Then to make up revenue because people aren’t drinking the cruise lines alcohol they are forced to make up the lost revenue by raising prices.
Dang...I got a two week repo cruise for about $500 a person. If we had not spent money on board, they would have lost money on us. Actually, I’m sure they did, when you consider the food two average people would eat in two weeks!
Fun fact: Many places outside of the US a cruise ship docks actually do allow the Casino to be open. The cruise lines opt to leave it closed as they would need to pay local taxes, which is both lost revenue potential and a pain in the ass to deal with.
Matthew Rosenblatt ...it also allows the local casino on the island to benefit from the cruise ships...sometimes it is really just for the free a/c inside too ...
will gaukler Really, it’s the taxes. I’ve worked for two major cruise lines for the past decade. They’ll open up the casinos while docked in the islands from time to time depending on what’s going on, but they generally avoid it
Yup. Tax reasons are also why the shops shut on port days as the staff would have a nightmare calculating all the different tax regimes. Additionally, the ports are often besieged by vendors -- there were massive craft markets in Tallinn and Helsinki where we spent a good while before getting back on the ship -- so that spreads some income to the locals as well as keeping people on board.
We do a one week cruise and only put $200-300 on our cruise card and about $20 for tips to the room service waiter that delivers my coffee to the room about 3 times a day. We also rarely get off the ship because we are seniors and the excursions don’t interest for us, and never eat in speciality dining.
What are you doing on the ship?
@@Universal_Craftsman Relaxing, people watching, dining, pool, casino, all the onboarding stuff.
Actually the pools are shallow all around to eliminate water from splashing on the sundeck when the seas get a little rough. It has nothing to do with the optics of making it look bigger, although it does accomplish that too.
Meaux Jeaux - Agreed, that’s the main purpose. This video got a lot wrong.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slosh_dynamics
If they'd just trim the shrubs, the pool deck might look even bigger.
It's also Math / Physics..The structure of the ship can't take HUGE pools.
"Automatic gratuities" go against the meaning of gratuitous; done without good reason; uncalled for.
It's a stupid system, as with tipping in general, especially in the US.
Honestly? Automatic gratuities should be illegal.
Countries that don’t have a tipping culture tend to have sub par service from my experience
lol yeah just build it into the price
@@njmis1, go to Japan then to broaden your experience.
@@njmis1 no, they tend to pay people a reasonable wage
Very entertaining and fun to watch. Thanks for posting this.
I was working on a cruise ship that based on tipping sistem for 10 years. That's mean my money comes from tips. The company did pay salary only USD$70 per month. If the guests remove their gratuities, I don't get money. No matter how good our service was there ware always some cold blooded people whose already planned ahead that they will remove gratuities and then disappeared early morning to be the first to disembark. This kind of people contribute most of the hard time for us.
Lucky they just small number.
Thanks for those who cruising for real and make me to have a job and earn money for my family 🙏
putra samudra don't take wageless jobs...are you stupid?
@@allananonimozeta9345
You think everyone whose working based on gratuities stupid ???
I hope you not one of them who's finish the meal and then complaint it wasn't good and will not pay.
Its hard to blam karen for demanding perfection when forced to pretip
Can't imagine having to work a service job on a cruise ship. Would go crazy after a day!
Went on a 7 day cruise...spent MAYBE $100 total. We didn’t drink anything that had to be paid for. There’s tea, coffee, juice, milk...free. When we went onshore, I found a small store selling soda, which I took back to the ship with me. If you get stomach ache or nausea, you can get FREE meds for it at guest services desk. You can eat FREE in the dining room, too. You can cruise on a budget!
Exactly. I cannot believe how much some people spend. But... their vacation, their problem ha ha
I love travel - I retired at 48 and have been out of the US for 8 years. I enjoy my money, but there is no reason to just throw money away carelessly. 😎
Alcohol and gambling seem to be the big expenses. If you don't take part in those two, then you'll sail for MUCH cheaper.
I guess I'm getting old. I enjoy sea days sometimes more than port days so I can simply relax by the pool and take it easy.
I'm with you Mr. Hempel. I could take a 7-day cruise that never saw a port and just sit and relax and read a book...
Sea says are the worst for crew especially restuarant crew
Thank you for the information, I had wondered why to some of these answers.
This is fascinating :). I love videos like this. They make some things really clear -- and I find understanding why something is how it is makes it easier to follow a rule or instruction.
One recent trend I dislike with Caribbean cruising is the “private island” stops. Basically all they usually are is just some formerly desolate island that the cruise company has filled with a handful gimmicky attractions that aren’t even included in your cruise fare.
I mean I realize that cruise lines do this because it’s a very cheap, high profit margin option. They own the island, so they don’t have to pay docking fees. They also make a bunch of money, since there’s literally nothing to do on the island unless you pay for it.
Still, it’s a shame that almost all Carribean itineraries from the major lines have replaced one of the real destinations with these nothing islands.
true
I have to say, I really like the private island stops. I don't go to the Caribbean on a cruise looking for culture, especially after multiple cruises. I go there for sunshine, beaches and the ocean. There are three nice things with the private islands. 1) you can go to the beach, pool area, etc. for no extra charge, 2) they have free food available and 3) if I do buy anything it goes right onto my ship account versus needing to use cash or a credit card. Sure I could choose to pay for some water sports or the like but it's no more expensive than if I did the same thing at a port of call. Also, some of these ports like St. Thomas and Sint Maarten are so common on itineraries that if you've done a bunch of cruises before you've seen them already.
@@jimzecca3961 What a connoisseur
My first cruise was on the Carla Costa it was a small ship, the workers and the performers were the same people and it was so much fun. Went on several more after that but never as much fun as the first one.
5 foot deep pools on ships aren’t necessary. The majority of people on cruises just want to sit in the water, so 3 feet is perfectly fine.
C MJB While true, the amount of space under the pool is still consumed. There’s nothing you can do about that - you lose a ton of space either way. Might as well put it to use.
The real reason for the size of the pools is the Free Surface Effect, not so much weight (although weight is a part of it)
but think about the kids that want to swim
My favorite ship was the carnival valor. I especially liked the way the theater was laid out. It wasn't a typical theater but more like a club like setting with wide isles, bench like seats, and little tables. Very easy to walk around and either leave early or arrive later without disturbing anybody to get a seat.
Lol, this is so true bro, when we think about it lol. Glad you pointed this out to us. Magnificent 7 lol. Thanks so much for sharing this with us. Stay safe and catch up again real soon God bless.
Cruise ship I went on for the first time was unreal . Loved it so much . Couple of rookie mistakes for my first time . Yes could not believe how big the ship was when 1st seen it mind blowing . God Bless
That happens. I think most cruise passengers decide there are things they might have done differently, or will do instead on the next cruise. For me that mainly had to do with the dining choices. As many tips as we got from our moms and friends, my spouse and I mostly moved around without keeping to any particular schedule. The most exciting part was when the ship first left port. The party music, the flashing lights in the indoor deck rails, the cheering and the views from up on deck. I'll always remember that.
The 'laying out' was definitely more popular than the pool, especially in the no-children section. It was difficult to find a lounge chair at times, and anyway, I preferred the pools and waterslides and the constant refreshing 'waterfalls' that were part of the largest pool area's setup. My husband and I have only been on one cruise; it was a Carnival package with a larger cabin (his boss's treat) for three nights. And even though we liked seeing Ensenada, our favorite 'full' day was the third day that was spent entirely on the boat. We didn't do much shopping at all! Just wandering from room to room dining, socializing, dancing, watching risque standup comedians, and even playing mini golf.
actually a few years ago, i went on a Norwegian cruise from new-york to Bermuda. and the ship stay 3 nights at the same port, which was pretty nice, you have time to visit
Thanks for posting, now I know why I never ever wanted to go on a "cruise"
Let's be honest, the REAL reason the casino's are closed when they aren't in international waters is because the cruise company doesn't want to pay the taxes on the operation of them while in their waters. Those are the "regulations" that keep them closed.
Licensing too. Countries like the UK you need a license to operate a casino to do that for every ship for every country would cost a fortune and would be a ball ache to sort out so they don't bother
Nothing wrong with that
There are still international gaming laws which must be adhered to, so don't fret about 'fairness' 🤣 trust me, casinos make plenty of money through people gaming legitimately, they really don't need to cheat.
But you're right about the taxes, certain countries now do allow casinos on cruise ships to remain open while in port and exempt them from paying taxes, but because most cruisers are used to the casino being closed in port, they rarely bother to change the quo
Walk around a ship when it is in port. There are very few passengers and the few that are left are in the buffet or sleeping. They don’t want to gamble in port so why open the casino
.... considering some ports operate their own on shore casinos ... the ship has closed casinos while in port... trust me there is plenty time to gamble while ship is at sea ...
I still don’t get why we have to pay gratuity the cruise I should just pay the decent wage
Cruise lines charge a fixed rate per day. $17.50 per person per day being their most expensive. But depending on the size of the ship and line it can be less. TIPS ON A CRUISE ARE ALWAYS CHEAPER THAN A LAND RESTAURANT. If you order a sit down dinner on a cruise it is completely free. (Unless you want "name brand" steak or lobster or alcoholic beverages. )
So are the buffets you eat for lunch and the café for breakfast. If you were to add it all up food, it would cost about $200+ per person per day. The tip for that on land should be (at 15%( $30)). But they only charge $17.50.
So instead of having to tip $5, $10 even $20 at each restaurant you tip $17.50 once on your bill per day and don't have to worry about how much to tip the rest of the cruise. And believe you me it is almost 24/7 food so you can eat every 30 minutes if you chose to. All without tipping extra!
Almost every cruise ship are owned internationally because they don’t want to follow American labor laws and minimum wage laws.
It’s horrendous that they are allowed to do so
as a customer I already pay so much
@@arielhorseman1104 You compare Cruise ships to US restaurants. In other parts of the world waiters in a restaurant also get decent pay and you are not oblidged to tip at all times..
If they payed us fully for our work the rates would go up to match. I see where youre coming from but youd be paying the same either way.
The small pools is definitely due to the movement of water. The movement of water in the maritime industry is known as the free surface effect.
I had 2 cruises cancelled this year. I can’t wait to go back, it’s like my second home. 😩😭♥️
What is your average expenses per cruise? NB I am a budget traveler.
Join the navy, it will be your home.
XxCDETC303xX Shit now you got me thinking.... and I want to become a nurse as well 🤔
Mahfuzur Rahman Well we personally have always gone with Carnival, it’s much cheaper and it seriously is the fun ship. With the cruise, tips, and taxes for a family of 4 is under $3,000 NOT including airfare. It’s like a club all day long. ♥️ This past year we were supposed to cruise with Royal Carribean and Carnival. But Royal Caribbean is giving us shit and doesn’t want to give us our money back. But they have no excuse because Carnival and Southwest Airlines have been so kind and helpful during this pandemic.
another point to note on the gratuities is that cash paid envelopes leave out all the back room staff working as hard as the front end staff, who would otherwise be left out - porters, maintenance crew, kitchen staff etc.
A crew member I became friendly with told me he was paid on a 1 year contract, exactly as agreed. He received nothing from tips. The cruise line, Holland America, says the tips go “toward the crew’s wages”. So clearly the tips just went to the company.
@@markjohnston5945 Wow, they are such assholes, stealing tips from their crew. Without their crew, they couldn't function as a cruise line.
I must be cheap when we went on our last cruise we might have spent maybe $100 and that’s a big maybe. I do like a small ship.
Sorry I beat you, my last NCL cruise last year our bill was $25.50 for my morning lattes, and believe me I’m not cheap
Don't confuse being cheap with being SMART !
Meaux Jeaux YES!!!!!!!!
Lots of small pools = easier to shut one down when someone poos in it and for people to use other pools.
I didn't know that pooing in pools was a thing to this day.
NCL gave me a hard time when I tried to pay my shipboard account with cash. after 15 minutes of argument with the front desk supervisor and the burser they took the money. On Princess they took the cash without blinking an eye and said thank you.
It’s Purser
...plan on going cashless and go with the flow ... at least you can select what card to use... and depends on cruise lines...stay with Princess tho...
@@amyfisher7510 the name has combined somemwhat. The traditional name would be Disbursement Officer, shortened to Burser (the way all shipboard names have bee shortened, like Boatswain's Mate became Bosun), however modern times has called it Purser because "Burser" isn't a real word, obviously.
@@hengineer bursar is another name for a treasurer. The nautical term is purser, and since airlines use nautical terminology you will find the purser on board an airliner as well, but 'bursar' is a totally legitimate term for someone in charge of money. (source -- I did some work experience for the school my mum was head of, and worked for the bursar on some of his filing.)
@@amyfisher7510I thought purser came from the one who holds the purse $$$ of the company such as the treasurer 😅lol
Went on my first cruise November 2019 with my husband while 9 weeks pregnant. I totally want to go on another cruise in the future, just not pregnant. Lmao!
Next time you’ll go with the kid(s)!
@@brechtxt8096 we were hoping to go on a cruise in a few years. Princess Cruises offers a short 4-day cruise from Ft. Lauderdale to Princess Cruise's private island and back.
Just to see if he likes it.
I actually like the mega ships, but I hate things like go karts take up such valuable real estate on the outdoor decks.
Cruises departing out of New Orleans have casinos that open immediately after the Muster Drill.
I'll have to remember that!
That's interesting, didn't know that. I assumed it was the same for all 🇺🇸 ports.
@@durellgriffin3399 Casino gambling is regulated at the state level. In Louisiana, if it's in water, it's legal.
This is true, but strangely enough the shops are not. Not until the following day.
You could never pay me enough to go on one of these cheeseball 'vacations'.
On par with the Wisconsin Dells,very cheesy.
No pun intended.
@@dolphincliffs8864 ctusing is VERY different than the Dell's, the Dells are dangerous, no one speaks english and its boring
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The physics you are talking about in regards to the pool. Is called free surface effect.
I've never been on a cruise ship before, but it looks like a mini Las Vegas resort 😉
Depends on the cruise, but in my experience, not really
In regard to the item about ship sizes: The two times I sailed were on Holland America ships that have about 2500 people. These seemed to be nice because less people means it’s not overwhelming and more concentrated guest attention whereas 5000 person ships are a little much.
I prefer the smaller ships as well. A cruise blogger said that one of the bigger ship she was on felt like a shopping mall and I agree. It doesn't feel like you're on a ship in the bigger boats.
I've cruised with Oceania and doubt I will be with any one else. Sirena's guest capacity - 684.
And IIRC, Holland America has a no-tipping policy - it's inbuilt into the fare. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Im from England 🇬🇧 and tipping for good service was learnt from my american friends. Years ago we Brits would never have thought of tipping waitresses and our house keeping staff.
I might pay tips in my cruise prices but i always tip my favourite staff the extra in their hands on my last night onboard and always in £ sterling. And they seem to quite like it
I love cruising and I've had 9 but I still can't get over the fact that I can never get into the hot tubs because they are kept too hot especially when the sun is already heating them up and the fact that the kids are allowed in them when signs clearly state they are for adults. Also, on the Carnival line they used to have serenity for adults with a pool. Now the pool is gone and tiny hot tubs took its place. Im over 65 and want a pool without a bunch of kids. I did my kid time i want a pool. And no stairs to get to serenity. I cant do stairs
Then go on a cruise line not popular with families. Carnival is obviously going to have a ton of kids. Princess, not so much.
@@wirebeam the ones that don't have family are usually more money I think. I'm just assuming cause I have never been on one.
Good lord, why go with Carnival? That’s a party ship. Disney, oddly enough, is great for adults. They actually enforce the “no kids” rule in their adult pools and hot tubs (I went as a single adult) and definitely cater to the adults. You also might want to try Viking. That cruise line absolutely bans kids from their ships entirely.
Try one of the Oasis Class Ships from RCL. The Jacuzzis are in the solarium which is indoor but covered with glass. Its very nice
Maybe you need to do better research on which cruise you're picking. I've never even been but I know carnival not for seniors. Pick a senior cruise for senior needs...
Not to mention if the ship docks for a shorter period of time, the guests have less time to spend money off the ship. They have to pay to have dinner on the ship if they leave at 4pm
You can always choose to eat at the buffet or the main dining room at no additional cost. Though many will choose the specialty restaurants so they might lose some if they stayed in port at dinner time. Of course, they probably also save money on food if more people are eating onshore.
I think it was Norwegian that offers (offered?) a cruise between the Hawaiian islands. A seven day cruise with three overnight locations. A great way to experience three islands, and a single day port of call on another.
Overnights at Kahului, Maui, Hilo, Hawaii (big island), and Nawillwili, Kauai with a singe day at Kona, Hawaii.
Long excursion, experience the night life, whatever...
For all the folks complaining about gratuities, keep in mind that its not that much money. On most cruise lines its $13 per day per person. Look at this way your $13 is traditionally divided among 4 people: the cabin steward, head waiter, assistant waiter, and the Maitre d'. Aprox $3 per day goes to each of those folks. That's a small price to pay considering you're getting your room cleaned twice a day, and the dining room staff is giving excellent service. If you take a land based vacation your gratuities just for dinner would be much higher. If you and your partner go to steak house in LA, Vegas or Miami, the gratuities would be close to $40 for a single meal. So $3 to your waiter per night is not a bad deal...
I know alot of folks dont like all the shopping on board the ships either. But this is a major source of income for the cruise ship. Look at it this way, your local gas station does not make a profit off gasoline. Gas stations make their money of soft drinks, beer, snacks, and cigarettes. So the cruise ships applied the same concepts. Remember you're not obligated to buy anything. There are lots of folks who manage not to spend a dime on cruise ships. They dont shop, they dont gamble, they dont drink, they dont book shore excursions. Nor do they eat at specialty restaurants. They only eat in the MDR. I know its their money but where's the fun in that....
THANK YOU!! That is likely the most succinct comment I have ever seen (here and elsewhere) regarding the topic of gratuities. Many cruisers add to the gratuity/tip amounts. Those complaining are non-cruisers, people from non-tipping cultures (mostly Europeans) and downright cheapskates. These (the cheapskates) being the same people who demand the most from Servers and Bartenders.
Your post should be mandatory reading prior to boarding a cruise ship.
@@crscott9908 Thank you Sir!
i go to the pool in evening , alwaays empty , all for myself , i ofter hear people why that guy inside ? isnt it cold ? lol
The ships I have been on closed the pool at night after the children spent all day screaming keeping the adults out. I would even settle for a nude pool if I got peace on my vacation. Hence I have yet to find a ship I would go on a second time.. Sad, very sad.
I remember when I was in Singapore at the Hotel Marriot, there you paid 10% tip automatically on the room-price, the only ones that did not get a dip on those money where the ones that carried your baggage and such .. I felt bad for them, so I paid them well.
Agreed. There are a lot of people posting who seem to think that tipping is only a U.S. thing.
There are tourists and there are travelers. Tourists don't know where they've been. Travelers don't know where they are going. The most amazing, awe-inspiring, and life-changing of my travels have been when I surrendered myself to the place I am visiting and with no itinerary or schedule just let myself be drawn into what it has to offer. I've had dinner at people's homes while wandering the backroads of rural Kansas. I attended a retirement party in a town of 200 people in Wales where even the little old ladies were so drunk they could hardly stand up. I've awoken to discover myself surrounded by Tarahumara indians while hiking the Copper Canyon of Mexico. I spent a winter month including Christmas with a family in Ukraine. I've shared tears with a Bosnian man who lost his family to civil war by way of his artwork despite having no common language. I had a taco thanksgiving dinner at a roadside park with 30 migrant workers while in California. I've been on the Ganges River at dawn watching 10's of thousands of Hindus praying to the morning Gods in rituals unchanged for 1000's of years. Truly life altering experiences. But I've never driven a go cart on a cruise ship.
That's an awesome story! I also don't like the idea of those holidays, I always think that I can do all of that where I live, there is nothing to explore on a cruise ship or hotel complex.
2:55 the wright itself isnt the main issue, its actually a thing called free surface moment. It simply means that water moves as the ship rolls which will make rolling worse.
Pool: waves, not weight. (Free surface effect)
The free surface effect is why pools are kept small & shallow on ships. The more volume of water the more unstable the vessel in a storm.
Having experienced a little of both, I prefer river cruising: far smaller vessels, a group of staff you can actually get to know over the longer time period, top quality food etc.
Auto Grat has been super common in restaurant chains in the US since the 90s, especially if the party size is more than a couple or small family.
Service charges in the UK are common if there's a large party -- it means the restaurant has to work harder to coordinate everything and does extra work that's not necessarily done for a small party.
The First Class Pool on the Queen Mary in Long Beach, CA can never be filled again, contract required removal of the Queen's boilers, one used to support the great weight of the generous sized pool.
PAPOOSELAKESURFER I’m sure they could weld in a supporting structure, but why? A pool experience isn’t very special in Long Beach and there is so much more to see and enjoy onboard. We spent a wedding anniversary night on the ship ten years ago. Very enjoyable and a lot to see. All the beautiful woods used harken an earlier era.
@@fensterlips For a few dollars more the Queen could become a five star spa raising the caliber of the hotel, prime location. Now that sea going cruise ships are talking about portless cruises, like during prohibition from 1920-1933, the Queen could duplicate a cruise experience, entertainment, etc., without the fuel cost.
I took my first cruise November of 2019 and it was awesome I can't think of anything that I thought didn't make sense other than what you already mentioned but actually when you think about everything that was mentioned in this video only seems strange if you only have a mindset or understanding of how things are on land but nothing to me seemed odd because I went understanding or expecting that things at sea will be different also the issue with the casino not being 24/7 prior to boarding I was well aware of laws concerning casinos at sea so I expected it
.......... Here. Have some periods.
Great vid! I HATE the tipping system as it takes away incentive for them to go above & beyond. Sometimes I give more because it just feels right. But I also know not to fall prey to the onboard sales pitches. Bingo? No thanks. My first cruise was a megaship and I swore I'd never do it again. After taking a smaller ship I swore I'd never do it again. It was just so boring. Now I prefer the larger ones because there's just so much more to do, especially on a longer cruise with more sea days.
I remember when I was a kid and we tipped our waiter at the end of the 7 day cruise with cash and it was so fun he was amazing and now I’m 22 haha
Some cruise ships such as the newer ones from AIDA and MSC actually have quite large Pools
One of the best cruise explanation type videos from a new cruiser 14 years old. As someone who knows a lot about cruises you explained some very interesting stuff and used real facts and said it in a very delightful way. One of the best cruise videos ever
Nice video.
A small pool also means that there is a much higher concentration of urine per litre.
Yea I’ll wait until port to swim at the beach.
Can't wait to sail again
Why make the pool massive when there’s only ever going to be 2 people that aren’t just hanging out on the edge? When I go I only ever go in the pool at night, swimming under the stars at night on a ship is a vibe of immaculate proportions.
Port stays - thy are EXTREMELY expensive. Also, there are no revenue centers allowed to be open while in port so Ships lose money every minute it is moored. Restaurants, shops, casino, most of the bars - closed. Ships need passengers to make money.
David Ulrich - WAIT.....are you saying that cruise lines are a business, and as such need to make money to continue on?!
Apparently other people don’t get that concept.
Do cruise lines actually pay out the tips to the crew on top of their base pay? I find it hard to believe that they do. They probably either pocket the money or use it to pay the salaries of the crew, which is NOT the same thing. Tips are supposed to be in addition to base pay.
Tips go to the staff. Back in the day we put the tip in an envelope and handed it direct to the waiter and cabin steward. Better to do it automatically
The first ship I was on was the old QE2 and she had an interior pool!
The interior pool was lower down in the ship, so a bit less of a problem in terms of stability
As a Brit, one of the first things I do is go to the service desk and ask for automated tips to be removed / not charged. I prefer putting cash in envelopes, so that I can reward staff as I see fit if they've gone above my expectations. I do appreciate that this favours front of house staff, but I just don't like automated tipping or tipping culture. Also, I'm not sure who really gets money if I tip the company, I can imagine it just gets consumed by either the company or senior management who don't need it.
A few things about tipping. What started to happen is people who only went to the buffet thought they shouldn't have to tip the wait staff. So a lot of people were leaving without tipping at all. That's just gross.
Additionally, I hate the freestyle cruising. I never get the same waiter twice, nobody knows what I want, and the service is sub-par. Yet I feel stuck with the automatic tips in that circumstance because I can't tip every waiter every night.
Now that we stopped using norwegian, we always tip our Steward at the beginning of the trip, mentioning to him that we're planning to also give the automatic tips. Then if he's particularly good, we leave in even more at the end.
We do something similar with the wait staff.
A giant hotel with a mall, tiny pool, all about consumption, why do people like cruises?! I'm really curious
Essentially because it's a moving hotel: you can visit many places in different countries and only have to go through the hassle of arrival and checking in once
@@promisetourself But you don't really see anything if you just have 4 hours or so. Isn't it better to go to Saint Marten and book a very lovely hotel by the beach? Go stay in Mikonos for a week?
@@tuanoful with the cruise lines I traveled so for (all in northern europe) we stayed in port at least 8 hours, usually 10 to 14 hours, with at least one over night stay per cruise.
It is oc course all a matter of taste, but I usually only have a few things I want to see in each place, so I don't mind. And if a place is really interesting and I want to stay longer, I go there on my next vacation. Usually I want to see different places though and the creature comforts of having the hotel travel 'with you' win for me. Though I would never want to cruise with an american line, they are way too big for me and lose a big part of the 'exclusivity' of MSC or Mein Schiff for example
Cruising is definitely are very privileged way of travel / vacations
@@promisetourself Fair enough!
A second question, and I am not asking just to annoy you, what about pollution? I've read that cruises are very bad for the enviroment.
@@tuanoful Oh yeah, they definitely are! There are some new-ish ships (maybe entire lines? I only know about the european lines) that are build with that in mind, using a different 'energy' to move (sorry, can't remember the English word) like fluid gas - but overall cruise ships are horrible for the environment.
That's part of the whole privilege thing I'd say, because in some places (I.e. northern europe) the people don't /yet/ have to acknowledge environmental changes and can ignore problems with pollution - or maybe they just plainly do not care.
I myself have been on two cruises so far, each before I was consciously aware of the problem. I want to go on at least one more as well and I am kinda reasoning to myself that if I stay in my country for a few years and only travel by train / bus etc. I can kinda... compensate for that? It's definitely not an airtight argument for sure though.
I went on an Alaskan cruise and it definitely was a huge ship but I was definitely surprised that the pools were so small. However p, I did assume that it was definitely because of the weight of a pool. Especially since the pools were on the top of the ship. Or near the top rather.
Where do you tip before you get the service? Buffet restaurants, and online food delivery apps.
Love the vids but i have a suggestion, if you want you should put the name of the ship at the bottom of the clip so we know what ship it is. That be kind of cool.
My understanding was the gratuities are not distributed at all to the crew. The cruise line just pockets them. The crew are all salaried contractors.
Love cruising smaller - less kids to put up with
We have a set budget for gratuities- we're Australian so can opt out of them - we pay our concierge housekeeper & butler on day 1. Each given the same amount. I find the whole thing so uncomfortable so I just want to get it over with.
We've done a few 2 night ports - we had fellow cruisers that flew to other parts of the country because they'd already been to the port down. I thought that was a great idea!
"Fewer" kids
Look at the videos of pools on a cruise ship in a storm, alot of weight that move around.
To your first point, pools are small for stability reasons on cruise ships. It doesn't have to do with weight specifically. It has to do with an effect called free surface. This effect changes the rolling action of the vessel and is most impacted by the width of the pool. Having pools as high up as they are increases the impact of this effect on the vessels stability when it is rolling as the entire weight of the water can be considered to be placed near the extreme edges based on the roll direction. There's a few videos out there that explain this effect including one of people driving box trucks with water tanks in the back (probably the best examples)
What doesn’t make sense to me is the environmental impact of cruising
Our ship, has four different trash cans for recycling, food gets ground up fed to the fish believe it or not, with bones and trash sorted out, we have also eliminated plastic across our fleet!
@@levijackalope561 schmuck , what about sulfur oxide. SOx pollution? Do you recycle that?
I understand that there may be different customs in the US but tipping in the rest of the world is quite unusual. Could be one of the reasons why it didn't catch up on ship where only a small minority of the crew is American. Said so, I don't think crew is paid more than the average waiter in the US, and perhaps could use the tips. But it is the employer who should ensure a fair wage and not the customer to supplement it.
All well and good, but American capitalism says to pay the worker the minimum you can get away with to maximize profits for the shareholders, and fuck everyone else.
Lancer525 American capitalism also means that if you don’t like what you are earning, get a different job.
I totally agree with this. Employers should pay them well. It is not up to the customers to provide employees' salary.
@@johnp139 The problem is the "different" job is using the same playbook. You don't like making minimum wage as a server? Sure, go make minimum wage as a driver.
If you fall into certain wide ranges of worker you are going to make the same no matter what. In a big city its usually 150% of MW or so, but costs are often twice as much.
It is not just the weight of water in the pools that is a problem. The sloshing of the water also affects ship stability, google free surface moment if you are interested.
I canNOT wait to cruise again 😭😭😭
Using a card to pay for things does allow the traveler to track her expenses - it also provides data to the cruise operator. This data can be used to figure out what appeals most to each market segment & potentially customize ads/sales to each person.
This video makes it seem like cruises are not fun but they are the opposite. I have been on about 5 cruises and they are so fun! You never want to leave! You just need to go on one to see what I mean.
And they say that shopping malls are dead. In the 6 years I've been cruising I have seen a definite uptick in the acreage devoted to shopping and specialty restaurants. In the future the only meals that will be included in your cruise fare will be the buffet and the only stops will be to private islands owned by the cruise line.
I disagree. People want to see the local islands. If cruises only go to their own place I’d stop going.
@@brandontuckett767 There would be enough people to allure and trap with cheap advertisements, and then you pay premium for everything, and you can't leave, you just have the option to open your wallet.
Having lived in a few countries, the tipping system in the US is annoying, and even more so on these ships. I wonder how much of these obligatory tips actually make it into the servers pockets.
That being said, servers often earn way more with tips in the US than they could otherwise. I knew several waitresses and bartenders that used to take home as much or more than a full time employed tradesperson. They had little to no secondary schooling and only worked 30-40 hrs week. That's why no one is pushing for it to change. The owners can pay their staff less and the staff often makes more than they would in any other low skill job.
Gratuities. You'd think that the cruise line would simply pay the staff, right? Unless... including that cost in headline price - versus it leaching away from you in the background - would make the cruise price look less competitive or appealing. Roughly $15/day gratuity over 14-day cruise = $210 || Paying by card - is awesome :) Just note that while docked at some ports, you will get tax applied to alcoholic drinks. || Shop sales. If you can stand not to immediately buy things you don't want or need, wait until the last couple of days of the cruise. In my experience, best reductions happen then
Great comment. We feel that like airlines, the cruise lines should have to put all the taxes/fees/gratuities into their advertised prices.
Wow all that makes taking a cruise seem aweful!
No idea why I got this recommended - still wachted it, but at 1.25 speed, he talks way too slow
Same lol
This was the one time to adopt metric measurements.
1KG of Water = 1 Litre of Water.
I would say that is so much easier to visualise than pounds and ft cubed