Apple's 12" Macbook is a STEAL Right Now!
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
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Apple's tiniest laptop, the 12 Inch MacBook, might have been a very expensive buy a few years ago, but you can get one for a MUCH better price right now. In this episode of Tech Rewind, I check out one from 2017!
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This thing with an M1, smaller bezels, 2 USB-C ports, and a decent webcam at $999 would sell like hot cakes
That’s.. the.. M1.. Air…
@@emrefifty5281 Ehhhhhhh maybe it's close, but a little too big, bad webcam, only one USB-C port extra if you're charging, and an old design. If the 12 inch was redesigned with the new M2 MBA design but maintaining the 12 inch form factor with an M1, then we're talking!
@@huntermeyer4972 I personally prefer the Wedge Shape of the M1 Air and find the Notch quite ugly. But the M2,better Camera are nice.
@@emrefifty5281 To each their own I guess, I've got the 14-inch MBP and the notch immediately disappeared and I actually quite like the extra height menu bar
don't forget ditching the butterfly keyboard, but other than that I concur
Do they make RUclipsrs like this in a factory? It feels like there are hundreds of these dudes, all with the same physiognomy, same set design, same voice and cadence, same stock music, same topics (IS THIS 2015 LAPTOP STILL GOOD IN 2022???)
Homogeneity happens all the time. Just look at what mrbeast did to youtube now everyone with a similar genre to him is employing the same techniques with the loud voice and hook at the start of the video and it feels like every video is optimized for those with adhd.
It looks like it physically pains him to look into the camera. Honestly production quality isn’t bad at all-just *nothing* unique about this channel.
Americans usually have no taste.
I bought mine as an interim machine after my 15” MBP died.
I’m still using it. It’s awesome. It’s had more than enough power for the apps I use.
@@acumen1 Yes, slowly...but it can. Wouldn't advise it though. 😂😂
Apple should refresh the 12" macbook, stuff an M1 or perhaps the new M2 in it, give it thinner beazels, better webcam and a slightly thicker body for more battery and a scissor keyboard. Sell it at 799 or less if possible and you'd get the perfect travel, student or secondary laptop in the market.
Yes
Keyboard is a nightmare
yeah, or maybe get an M1 Air. The only way this gets refreshed, is on the exact same body. And that's pretty unlikely
An m1 or even an a15 bionic would be enough tbh cuz i dont think apple would put an m2 in a niche device. If you are very space concious and dont demand much from a computer, then you are good to go
With the new air being as good as it is, I don’t see the MacBook returning soon.
I have a 2015 11 inch air, which granted, is a lil’ bit bigger and thicker than the 12 inch, but the new m2 air manages to be thinner than even the MacBook, not much bigger than my 11 inch air (it just has a little bit taller screen aspec ratio), all while having 2 thunderbolt ports and MagSafe.
I bought mine at $635 last year with 22 cycles, now it has 82 cycles, it is 2017 model it has i7 16GB RAM 512GB storage, I mainly use to take to school, as a teacher I love it's portability 👌👌
Backmarket ? O en donde la puedo comprar ?
Any laptop has portability.......
That's a pro though, in this video is a base model. This model is around 10 times slower
@@vegcharliah the 12inch macbooks also have the i7, but they’re still super slow
Hi! I got one of these as a gift, and I've been looking all over the internet how this computer holds up to the more recent updates. Has it given you any problems when it comes to the OS?
I had a 2015 and 2017 one of these, and never had problems with the keyboard at all. I store and share files in cloud storage like iCloud, G Drive or OneDrive. The only times I had to use a dongle was for an ethernet port for checking network hardware.
i bought this a week ago because of this video. With the 2017, 8 512 model for $350, it's just amazing. Just like modern macsbooks with great portability, screen quality, and good speakers, it feels good. Way better than anything like a Chromebook!
How long does the battery life last for you? I want to get this too
Hi! I got one of these as a gift, and I've been looking all over the internet how this computer holds up to the more recent updates. Has it given you any problems when it comes to the OS?
This tiny laptop would slap if it would have a M1 chip! Just increase it's thickness a bit but keep similar dimensions around. Though I know apple will never refresh this with its current line up!
All it needs, new keyboard, m1 chip, 2 USB c ports, bigger screen
you don’t need to increase the thickness, iPad pro and air have M1, this can fit it too
@@comradeuro4255 ye but the MacBook was alot thinner than them 2
@@CBlocks macbook air
@@cole7529 the MacBook was smaller and slimmer than the MacBook air, so some peou called it the MacBook "Helium"😂
As I'm typing this on a 12 inch, I absolutely love it. I got the 2017 final model new on ebay for like $600, sealed in box, a year and a half ago and have been very impressed. For my workload it still is very competent, and have been able to use apps like garageband and imovie for messing around with. Definitely recommend using a second monitor for stuff like that, but I can put it in a small case in my bag and take it anywhere easily.
And I may be in the minority but I actually love the butterfly keyboard and having a magic mouse. However, you have to get used to dongle life to use this product, but having a dedicated set up at home that i can just plug into a hub and be ready to go, then take with me for work elsewhere has a very "nintendo switch" like feel.
480p webcam is a downer, not gonna lie.
If Apple would create a similar model with the M1 chip, even if it kept the same keyboard, I would seriously consider upgrading.
Hi! I got one of these as a gift, and I've been looking all over the internet how this computer holds up to the more recent updates. Has it given you any problems when it comes to the OS?
I feel like the 13 inch apple silicon is what you are looking for dude. I feel like this is the iphone mini situation all over again. The normal standard iphone is small enough will being still practical without sacrificing too much, i think the macbook air m1 is still pretty good for your use case if you ask me.
Like all things you just get used to it after a week or 2
@@rustylarry7465 you’ll never guess which model of iPhone I’m typing this on 😂
Funny people that buy it comes back to the recommendation videos??
ive had this thing for years and even after getting the latest macbooks, I just could not get the myself to sell this one. it has a special place in my ❤ knowing apple will probably never make a macbook in this form factor again.
I've been using 1st gen 2015 macbook since the beginning and I'm still using it as my main pc to this day. I've never had any problems with it, I actually like the keyboard and I don't mind the bezels since it prevents fingerprints on the display.
with the new design, I'm pretty sure apple can fit a 13" screen on this form factor, it would be a perfect replacement for the current m1 air
This with an M1 for $999 would probably sell really well. MacBook SE seems like a good name.
I just bought one, for less than 300! As a 15" MacBook Pro user, I needed something smaller for light work - This does the job! Great little machine.
Where can I get it?
@@cilian.9411 eBay
Watching this video on my 2017 12 inch MacBook docked at my desk. It's just now starting to show it's age on the performance and battery life. This thing has performed very well for me as a daily driver. The most taxing things I do with it are light video editing/creation and Photoshop. Has always handled that just fine. This computer is better than most people say.
hey, I'm considering buying one. is it able to play RUclips 1440p / 2K / 4K in 60 FPS without dropping frames?
@@adamw.3409 It will play up to 4K on the built in display no problem. I have it docked to a 1080p monitor, so you may need to check the specs on it to see what it is capable of outputting to an external monitor if that's how you're going to have it setup.
@@chriscasillas thanks.. it's able to output 4k 60hz.. that's why I asked about it.. can you check in the meantime whether it plays smoothly 60 FPS , 4K , e.g. RUclips clip "Costa Rica"? and when you right-click on the clip there's sth like 'stats for. nerds" and you can see whether it drops frames..
Got one in mint condition for €235. Battery needed a service. Replaced it myself for around €60 euros. Now at under €300, it is amazing value!! I got a m5 CPU, 8GB RAM and 512GB SSD. I use it all the time for school and watching videos. However, occasionally I use it for photo editing in Lightroom (which it handles no problem) and video editing in Final Cut Pro X. I thought that editing my c4K files (at 237MBps) would be a bit too much. However, without adding too much to the FCPX project, it handles it really smoothly. Amazing laptop, you just have to know what its limitations are.
It’s my favorite apple device, rocking mine since 2017. And it still amazes people in my meetings.
It works very well as a secondary device, and sometimes I even edit videos in 1080p/4k on Final Cut Pro and surprisingly it handles it just fine.
im thinking about buying one for my casual mom as my old Air 2014 i gave her has died, will it handle youtube at 1080p just fine?
@@krisvaras7801 Easy. 4k pushes the CPU temperature wise.
I've installed a program called Turbo boost disabler. Makes using it not ramp the temperature up so high.
That and running Safari. It is an efficient browser. 😊😊
I got mine recently from Amazon for $299 USD and its working really well, practically brand new, only had small scratches on the sides that you can feel. When it first came out back in 2015, I really always wanted one, so over Memorial Day weekend (holiday in the US) decided to take a chance on a refurbished one. Pretty happy with it so far…
hey, I'm considering buying one. is it able to play RUclips 1440p / 2K / 4K in 60 FPS without dropping frames?
Still working well?
@@adamw.3409 I'm considering it too. I doubt it about 4K. But for 1080p/1440p, I believe it's still can handle it.
I have a 2017 model for almost 5.5 years now and it is my only computer outside of my job in IT networking. I am very happy with every aspect of it except the battery is dying after so much usage(I am on it really a lot everyday, especially during covid lockdown to the point that the black paint on the Command button has been worn out). There are replacement battery I can purchase and it seems to have more capacity than the original battery. Although I am upgrading to MBA M1 model for more power I am still seriously considering changing the battery myself following online instructions to rejuvenate this elegantly designed Macbook.
Always Loved the Tech Rewind Episodes : ) This One also Adds Up ; )
Hi, and I’ve just inherited a 27” 2013 iMac, 3.2 Ghz, 16/1TB (Mojave) and it works perfect . - . My normal daily workhorse is a 13” 2015 Retina MacBook Pro, 2.9 Ghz, 16/256 (Big Sur) - and it works perfect, too. The questions: which of these machines should I use as my daily desktop driver? And is it worth keeping them both?
What MacBook do you guys recommend for a faster version of the laptop? Dual core is too slow for me.
Wanted to like my 12 inch macbook way back when, but hated the typing feel and the 12 inch display just wasn't a good size to view. Loved the size and lightness. The M2 Air is close in size and solves my typing and display wants/needs, and if I had to get a laptop now, it would be my #1 choice to buy. But instead I will spend nothing since my 2017 Air is doing just fine for my needs.
What a lot of reviewers of this device didn't consider was it's value as a secondary computer. These days, I treat my 16" MBP as a desktop. For everything else, my 2017 i5 comes with me.
Yep I have 16” MacBook and also looking at one of these as a secondary.
How can I update to macos monterey as it doesnt let me in appstore from macos el capitan it shows there are no update but i have supported to monterey as last update with my early 2016 macbook core m3?
watching this on my 12 inch retina macbook 2015 - still runs fantastic i changed the battery the only problem iface is that the oikl keys just wont work so i have to use a onscreen keyboard to type them
Just bought a 2016 model, plan take it with me as much as I can, and dual boot a lite version of windows on it
I love the butterfly keyboard, it’s so easy to type fast on. Who needs more key travel?
Can you play 4k videos on this MacBook ? Not streaming but locally from hard drive ? And is it sufficient to basic cropping photos etc ?
Your setups are TOP NOTCH all the time
Just something I noticed… your body is a bit lower than the table which make your shoulders pull up when you put your hands on the table
You can put up the camera a bit to be eye level and pull up the chair a bit for a more comfortable seating for you
Keep up the AMAZING work 🔥🔥
Great little video mark👍
Any thoughts on an ioniq 5 purchase?
I had one and it was severely underpowered - dong anything that required any kind of compute or gpu power meant you could only use it for RUclips and web surfing at max - even some more complicated excel models made it crash which is crazy
have you tried instslling linux on it
just grabbed one on ebay for 160$. couldnt be happier. Plan on doing the shim and thermal pad mod to help with thermals.
@Mark Spurrell you should do a tech rewind vid on the 2019 macbook it goes for around the same price tag but better
I traded a 2017 12in MacBook for a M1 13in pro …. I know I got a great deal but I still sometimes miss that 12in MacBook ….. I never needed to bring a big Bluetooth ,you could get a boost in battery from any Charger from 18w and up! That screen seems to be as good or better than newer MacBooks. That battery was good and it’s honestly one of the best MacBook Designs Ever! All it needs is an M series chip
This thing was ahead of it’s time. I just bought a refurb space gray 12” MacBook for $270…only 128 battery cycles. I’m obsessed with it. I bought my mom one too.
Where did you buy them from?
@@TC-yx1qt Amazon. However they’re not as easy to find as other MacBooks. I LOVE mine. They’re rare though as they stopped making them.
@@TC-yx1qt just saw they do have ones for 299.99 still.
Give us what we want Apple. Put the damn M1 chip in these old 12in Retina Macbooks you got stored away sitting in warehouses.
I am using the same laptop for school. I am really getting the most out of it, and hell ya, it’s really small and beautiful.
Bought mine a month ago for just $225. Intel Macs just depreciated and fell behind so much ever since Apple Silicon but the build quality and feel is still $1300 class.
Is it still lasting with butterfly keyboard? I heared they had alot of issues since 1st gen product.
If you really know Apples devices, one would only recommend to buy the 2017 model, yes it still has the dreaded butterfly keyboard; but at least its the 2nd generation, which gives you a better chance at avoiding the unavoidable sticky keys from the 2015-2016 model. On another note, the Intel HD Graphics 615 in the 2017 actually gives you the performance you might need, while the 2015 Intel HD Graphics 5300 barely runs the desktop with out making the CPU throttle down of it’s already lousy 1.1/1.2/1.3 basic speed. Plus the 2015 and 2016 have a more common issue where the display goes bad and you develop lines or in the 2015 model basically a black screen.
I have a 12" Macbook 2015. Yes the keyboard is not great and the space bar will only work if I press right in the middle of it. Also I'm getting the battery service recommended message and the battery does not last as long as it used to. But it still works and for basic tasks it's fine if a bit slow. Apple will give me $45 for a trade-in. It would be nice to see something like this re-issued but I'm not sure they could pull off the exact same form factor with a better keyboard.
as a computer science major, would you recommend this?
Does anyone know if I get a dongle with usb type c if it can charge through the dongle?
I use a Macbook 12 2017 with i7 and 16GB RAM, heavy photoshop / illustrator / adobe xd usage and it never let me down, really good performance. The downside is that i cant run games, WoW runs at 40/60 FPS, i know macs arent made for gaming but now that we got M1 running games at great FPS i feel kinda bad with my Intel i7 mac hehehe
@Of the Refrain Hello mate, do you have a link for it?
It can be great as a secondary/companion device for your main machine
This is what I do. Pull it out on the train trip, didn't take up much space. 👍🏼😁
mine is 2017 i5 8G 512GB. end of apple care+ last month. before ending, I replace all except logic board. looks new again and can be used for another 3 years.
I have a 2017 12inch MacBook with core i7 16gb ram and 512gb ssd I got lucky with this one and I love it still pretty fast I do light video and photo editing and some school work I definitely have something better for more performance.
I got one from Walmart refurbished but working pretty good and like new condition for $309,
Just perfect!
Got this little piece of a gem for around $220 - core m3 with 256 GB SSD and 8 GB ram. It runs fine for basic tasks (document editing, youtube, videos, stream gaming etc.) - for those who wanna do heavy video editing, remember that this device was never in the first place designed to handle such demanding tasks. It was always known (and still is!) for its portability and display, which is where it truly shines! I simply love how light this ultrabook is, and with Bootcamp, its a match made in heaven for me!
I picked one of these up just to try out macos. The last time I used a mac was when Steve jobs just returned to the company. I believe it was those big colored plastic things. If I like it I’ll probably get an M1 or M2 mac. I’ve always had iPads but never macs.
does it have the new IOS if upgraded is that possible, I have a very old Mac and it isn’t compatible
Bought a base 2016 one for $200 with 65 watts charger haha I could be happier even with no more updates. Just going to use it for basic web browsing and Google Sheet
Where can I buy? Amazon??
I'm seeing a lot of 2016 and 2017 Macbook pro's going for around this price with much better performance. I would prefer the 2017 Macbook pro to the 2017 Macbook if they are within the same price range; which I believe they are on eBay.
Excellent tech rewind! I love ❤️ these! Nice beard, too. Looks great 👍🏾
The original macbook could fill the gap that the range lacks from the entry macbook. Maybe $699, all you would need is a traditional keyboard, reduced bezels, an Apple silicon, a macsafe port, two usb-c/thunderbolt 4 ports, one 3.5mm jack, and the 1080p webcam that modern models mount.
Thanks for the review, it helped me a lot.
This laptop has keyboard failures, Ram failures, Usb failures, even CPU failures for heck's sake; I don't recommend, I would personally go for a retina MacBook pro. Those perform much better, and, yes, the form factor is great, but i don't think it warrants the gamble you're taking
That was mostly on the 2015 and 16 versions
Could you compare it to the 2017 13 inch pro?
I think this laptop was a good successor to the 11" MacBook Air that was released in the years from 2010 to 2015, and discontinued when this one released. The performance went down slightly from the previous year's small MacBook Air, but i don't believe that the performance was ever the focus of this size class of machine. It was all about being small, light, and easy to carry, and this took it even further.
It upgraded the display massively from the 11.6" 1366x768 panel while it sacrificed keyboard durability and port selection, where the 11" MacBook Air had two USB Type A ports, a thunderbolt port, a headphone jack, and the magsafe charge port. My max-spec 2014 model (with an i7-4550U, 8GB of RAM, and a 256GB SSD) fits down inside my purse with no problem at all and is just a wonderful thing to hold.
The bigger MacBook Air wouldn't see an upgrade from the old-school 2010 design until 2018!
I just got one got $336. M5, 512GB, it’s perfect for browsing needs and I don’t feel guilty if I don’t use it.
can i use macbook 12 for ios development?
Just bought a 2017 model for $263 after shipping. It’s got a couple of small sings but otherwise it’s pretty sweet! Wanted a simple browsing and movie watching machine when away from home and that’s exactly what I got. It’s super light and super portable of course. It’s like an 11.6 inch MacBook Air on steroids!
the magic mouse in the trash? come on!!! After using heavily the trackpad, I can say the mouse is even better...
They should’ve put an M1 chip, thinner bezels, 720p webcam, and a magic keyboard. This would be the laptop for the masses.
It's too thin for a magic keyboard.
MacBook M1 (or M2 depending on release)
They could give it 2-3 Ports and decrease the price to like 799$ or 999$ (if they discontinue the MBA M1)
Edit: also give it a 720p webcam and smaller bezels.
A 12.5” inch MacBook with M1 should have been released in 2022 for $899 (256GB of storage, 8GB of ram, 14h battery, 2 pounds weight, 2 USB4 ports).
ok if you can put up with constantly replacing the awful keys, butterfly hinges and it overheating
If anyone has this model, could you tell me how far back the screen tilts? Does it stop at a straight up (90 degrees) position?
I have the early 2016 12 inch macbook. Screen does NOT stop at 90 degrees. It tiltls back like any normal laptop screem.
Hey Mark, I’m having a tough time deciding between this 2017 MacBook and the 2017 base MacBook Pro. I’ve managed to find both in good condition for under $500. I’m no power user by any means, but I do plan on doing some light editing occasionally. Which one do you think is the better buy? And less problematic as I’ve seen and heard of they’re questionable reliability.
Go the 12 inch Macbook.
The 2017 MBP's have display flex ribbon cable issues.
The 2016 versions had the same problem. Apple only recognises the flex cable issue with the 2016's. The 2017 MBP's have the same issue but Apple doesn't recognise them as having that problem. 🙄😁
@@cgi2173 thanks for the Info, I liked the look and ultra slim form factor of the 12inch Mac better anyway haha. Another thing, how much longer do you think Apple will support it? Thank you and Happy New Year 🎆
This a macbook I use now! Pretty inlove with its portability and overall performance for my work. Fun fact my space bar got stuck several days I bought this and found tips online to blow it while holding it upside down... And it works again until now lol 😂
works well?
@@Official.JulianJOchoa I can say it's working well as my works doesn't need a demanding specs of computing. The cons is battery is draining itself when it's on sleep mode after I updated to monterey. Idk why 😔
I am still using it. Very light, so it’s good for carrying around.
Sold my 2015 model for $450 a few years. Despite having an M1 iPad Pro, I missed the 12” MacBook too much. Just bought the last 2017 i5 model for $350 in 2023. Really wish Apple would rerelease this with an M2
Just bought this for $430 🤯 now I’m seeing this video! You aren’t lying these are cheap. Great timing for this video! Mactops are always great and last forever 😆 I can’t wait for mine.
You can Get m1 ipad at that price
this sounds like a godsend for editing gameplay quickly and easily
I would put an M3 in it, 13 inch, 2 ports, touch bar and price it where the 13 inch pro was and give the 13 inch a refresh
I recently got a very slightly used near perf condition 12inch early 2015 with 512gb ssd and 1.3ghz cpu with 260 cycles 80% battery health for just 160 chf (in comparsion 186 usd or 165 euro) the keyboard is not broken and was not used that much :D I guess for this price it's a good device :)
You can get the 2015 model for under $300 at this point
I really want one of these in gold or rose gold and with an ISO keyboard layout.
I recently got an early 2015, barely used for $200 tax and shipping included, is it a good price?
Definitely.
I have one of these and it has earned a special place in my heart. I recently replaced the battery which wasn't easy but, having overcome the challenges of fiddly screws and tiny ribbon cables, I love it even more. One question is what OS to run on it. The more you update it, the slower it goes. Any tips Mark?
It’s powerful enough to edit 4K video. I have two. Love the thinness. And good for travel. Still look great after 5 years.
really? I have a 14'' m1pro MacBook, but its heavy to travel. I'm hesitating should I buy this one. I just need it to do some easy 4k video edit.
@@mercedes1990221 no, absolutely not☠️ this thing 100% cannot edit any real 4k videos. you will regret downgrading from the m1 pro 14”. its display is far superior, the battery life is far better, the new one has more ports, and not to mention the m1 pro chip is probably 5x faster than this macbook. this has no fans, and runs on intel. if you want small and thing you’re better off getting an m1 macbook air. do NOT go back onto intel macs especially at an m1 pro.
@@juliorianoo okay, thank you for your suggestion. I'm using m1pro to travel for now!
I've got a nice pink 2016 with a non functioning W key and a dead SSD. Basically just a classic 12" lol
This video nails this device. It’s an excellent secondary device in 2022!
watching this in bed at 4am on a 12 incher that i picked up today for a steal at 200€ for watching youtube in bed at 4am.
seems pretty good for the intended purpose lol.
this makes a really great netbook! just something to browse the web & do small or more internet based tasks
Still use my 2015 one as my daily laptop and even though I’m sure the newer ones and pro models are much quicker tbh it’s no slouch. It’s still quite quick and I even got Monterey on it using open core.
Is it okay get one right at this moment I use it only for trading purposes.?
@@ashithreddy2760 mine still running on mojave os, affraid it will slow in monterey. should i upgrade it?
Can the memory be expanded?
I use a Magic Mouse all the time, it’s not perfect but I like it
M1 air is way better considering the price to value ratio. The 12 inch is just not passable for any kind of serious work in 2022
My son, in Grade 11, uses a 2015 12" Macbook for his in-class laptop. With the advent of Google Classroom, this laptop will easily get him through highschool and we'll upgrade for University. It's small, super light, and performs well for side-projects such as music recording. We also have a 2021 Macbook Air and it's surprisingly heavy, clunky, large in terms of dimensions compared to the 12" Macbook.
Just got one from ebay for 299 usd!! Great screen and very decent sound for the size. Enough for basic task and video conferences. Camera isn’t great, but does the job..
they need to throw an m1 in one for sure. im gonna see if i can cram an m1 macbook air logic board in there
I really like this model - it looks sleek & compact. However, I've had my Air since 2017 so don't see the use in getting one even though they can be had at a fair price.
500$? Holy shit people still selling it almost 900$ here in Vietnam, idk why but they're insane
how does it works with iOS big sur ? should i update ? currently using monterey
do you have any problems with your yours?
is the big sur the latest?
It can be good for people they want compact laptop
Just got a brand new MacBook Pro 2017 base spec for £180
I wish it was 1-2mm thicker to have the scissior keyboard, thunderbolt 4, m1..make it cost around $800....and it would destroy the $1350 iPad Pro ($1000+$350)
Apple will probably never make a laptop as thin and light like this was ever again