Is anybody else wondering how many more episodes will be made before chaennie lisoo runs out of horrible entertainments? Cause so far, she barely even started. Can you please do GNI Entertainment and J Tune Entertainment next(they are both linked). They were accused of severely mistreating their staff and idols, while not paying them any money. It's a really interesting case. Hope your interested enough to make a video on this entertainment.
@@whitecornflower isn't musicworks associated with stone music entertainment or something like that.? I swear once chaennie lisoo drops a video about all companies that were involved in the produce series scandal, sh*t will go down.
@@mickeyburn7204 yeah i think musicworks is under stone. I don't think they tried to rig anyone in in pdx bc they are poor. Myteen and Minzy deserved better management though
Honestly ! I'm usually one of the last to instantly "stan" groups these days (oldie kpopper here), but their debut was exceptionally good so I decided to follow them It's so sad they've lost a lot of the traction and recognition they received from the beginning :L
The mistreatment Block B went through is something I will always remember. The infamous Thailand interview was terrible, but the translations were very ill at the time. But, they were all ROBBED by this company. (I just wanted to interject that P.O’s family paid a ton of money towards the group in terms of clothes for their promotions since P.O came from a wealthy family..) Thank goodness they all in a much better position and have all ventured out with their own individual activities. I am still a hardcore BBC to this day. 🐝🐝
M Rosé faxx hun,, i’m still enraged at how that thailand interview was handled so badly, and definitely scarred the boys, esp. jiho badly. though bbcs are well aware of the mistranslation and the true intentions that happened, i believe some people outside the fandom still believes the opposite.
@@gray-zb7zr can you explain what the thailand interview was about? i don't think i got the meaning of what zico said and why it was offensive.. i don't see how his remark related to the flooding at all... how does having 7,000 won have anything to do with the damgages from the flood?
CrixzCel Ver That apology video still breaks me to this day. You can even hear one of the members sobbing in the background. It was like watching seven puppies get beaten up. They did everything in their power to express how sorry they were. :(
21:39 Xeno-T isn’t going to be active anytime soon as most of the members have enlisted earlier this year. Hunus never put any statements out about the members’ enlistment, but the members did post about it via their personal Instagrams.
Chaennie Lisoo It’s good! Hunus really sucks at releasing statements about promotions, hiatuses, enlistment, and disbandments, so the information isn’t too widespread outside of ToppKlass’s circle(? is this the right word?).
Hunus posted it on the Xeno-T staff official twitter around the time of each prospective enlistment but like, the whole thing sucks..sangwon is the only one not enlisted rn
Topp Dogg was loved by many international fans, also known as Xeno-T now... And honestly I don't see any hope for them anymore. I was shocked at first when members started leaving the group but honey they did the right thing. Sooo many talented kids. I dont want to say they wasted their time, because we ToppKlass loved them and they grew more into themselves, knowing what they really want and what they are going to do. Their stage was my first ever live concert (and it will probably be the last cuz ya sis has no pennies) and I do miss them. But letting go isn't a problem. Some of the members are doing well, having a solo career, creating their own songs, becoming a musical actor and lot's more talented. I'm proud of all of them.
@@SkyDaddy777 Sanggyun, was known as A-Tom in Topp Dogg, is going solo after he was in the group JBJ, that was made after produce 101 season 2 after fans wanting the popular and talented boys to still for a group. Yooncheol who was knows as Nakta under Topp Dogg, is now known as Kinda and is planning to promote solo. Hyunho who was known as Seogoong under ToppDogg, has debuted solo under the name I'M. He has also played in a few musicals. Hyosang, who was known under the name Kidoh, has returned as an underground rapper. I haven't heard alot from him but I know that he continued as a rapper with Rock Bottom. I'm not really sure correct me if I'm wrong. Dongsung, who was known as Gohn, is serving in the military rn. But he plans to continue his music career, I think as a solo artist. Taeyang, aka Jenissi, is still rapping and has released alot of mixtapes and songs on soundcloud (go check him out). There are 2 more member who left, former Sehyeok who was known as P-Goon (is happily married♡) and Minsung who was known as Hansol (is under a dance studio making choreography under the name Navinci). I hope this helped you a bit~
@@Snowprowess gohn is actually out of the military already and has released a few songs under the name clovd! Edit: also p-goon and his wife divorced after five? months I believe. He's serving in the military now. Minsung is dancing but it seems he's been suffering a lot with his mental health recently so I hope he's okay now
@@scottietrademark thank you for your help... After some members left I still wanted them to shine like any other well known group, but after their schedules ended I suffered too with them and I got afraid of loving a group.. It really hurts seeing such talents go to, I dont want to say waste but it really did.
I never knew that P.O was diagnosed with stress induced schizophrenia due to the backlash from the Thai interview. I knew that the controversy was huge but not that it affected one of the members to that point. What they said was horribly inappropriate, but death threats towards the members, *and their families* , is taking it way too far. They were young rookies, the best thing you can do to help the situation is to educate them and get the ignorance out of the way.
Nightcore Sarina elris aren’t actually that closely connected with stardom! all of them were actually trainees from ct entertainment (another company that merged under hunus), and have very little connection with block b and evol 😊
So basically the reason all their groups flopped is because they wanted to make new versions of groups that already exist. Korean Eminem, female block b, hip hop super junior, maybe try and create an original group??? Oh wait, ELRIS!!! PROMOTE ELRIS!!!
@@luu0w0 tbh I didn't really Stan bf but I heard that they disbanded them after shipping then to Japan bc they werent selling well or smth :( sorry I am not very knowledgeable about them
@człowiek They kicked Wonho because of allegations made by that bitch Han Soo Hee that he owed her girlfriend money. They didn't defend him in any way, kicked him out and then ignored monbebe's outrage and fierce protest, while making the remaining memers promote their comeback without him like nothing happened, two days later.
and also how in produce 48 during the first evaluation the interviews for starship trainees their trainer said something about beating them or working them even harder or something like that if they didn’t get an A
Topp Doggs Hansol now goes with his "new" or normal Name Minsung. Or with the name Navinci under with he also posts Choreography and works as a dance teacher. He also gives Courses in other countries. It seems like he doesn't want anything to do with Hunus ENT. anymore, maybe even with his Idol live in general. I think it left some scars on him. But I can't be sure. He is also the only one of them that I still follow occasionally.
Minsung is pretty active on Instagram, he also used to live stream on his RUclips Account like everyday. I would recommend checking him out, he's insanely talented
You forgot one of the girls from elris (sohee) made a solo debut with the song Hurry up ft. BOL4 (edit) it’s really a nice song go check it out if you haven’t heard it!
nah honestly spotlight was her "debut" but it wasn't official. hunus released spotlight bc sohee just finished kpop star 6 and she was relatively popular on the show so it was like a lead up to maintain attention. then hunus decided to officially debut her w hurry up with actual promotion stages and all
I was expecting to see something about ROMEO since Hunus Entertainment bought their company (CT Entertainment) on May of 2016. They haven't had a comeback since 2017 and the last thing I remember about them is that some of them went to MIXNINE and that controversy about Milo talking to a underage on KakaoTalk.
Me too, I really like Romeo and felt so bad for them when they never had another comeback now idek what they are doing because they haven’t released a Japan single in a while now
@@cosmicwaddles9971 I really like them too! They were one of the first groups that I stanned since their debut and not knowing about them for so long is killing me. They are so talented and deserve so much more. I even remember one time when three of the members uploaded a video without their manager knowing because they really wanted to communicate with the fans. Such pure babies, we don't deserve them. 😔
I know it won't fall into the "worst entertainments" category, but I would love you to dig a bit into KQ and Seven Seasons' situation. Because the way the labels treat solo careers of Block B members is just sad. They don't get much help or support from their labels - Kyung recently had to fund his mv himself for example. ':s
@@todayiglowup4286 Yes, it is! And it has Seven Seasons as a 'sub label', but everything seems to be managed from kq anyway, so it's basically as if BB was under them as well.
As soon as I saw this in my subscription box, I became less bored. Especially when I saw the title. "Hunus Entertainment" is a snake and an asshole. My mind went straight to ToppDogg, who I loved for so long. They were literally robbed and just plain ruined as a group and as members of the group. More importantly, the group members didn't really seem to go or even fit. It's like Hunus just threw random boys together, gave them a name, and made them go out there and work. Honestly, it was a mess. Thank goodness Hansol is okay now because he was treated horribly. The others, too, I know, but as more of a fan and follower of Hansol, he had it worse, especially with the group.
Agreed. The fact that there was even a "hidden" subunit called Underdogg was crazy, with some of the Underdogg members appearing in the "Happy" video. I don't think many people realized that. :-(
MLD's mistreatment of Momoland and the members needs more exposure honestly. I've looked so heavily into it to see what these poor girls have gone through and it's heartbreaking. I love that you talked about mmld before with more details and less bias than so many others who talked about them! a lot has happened with Momoland lately that isn't being spoken about though, and it's very sad seeing this go unknown or people just not caring about how they're treated. please keep doing what you do with exposing these companies!!! so many people would have no idea if you weren't out here 👏
HUNUS is simply horrible. elris gained a lot of recognition with their first comeback and sold a lot of more albums with color crush than they did with "we, first". However, HUNUS let them for for 9 months before releasing their "new" song "summer dream" which then lead to their hiatus until MORE THAN 1.5 YEARS! Elris fanbase is small but it is consistent, so if they are lacking funds they could've asked for a fundraiser easily. Also, what's interesting is that HUNUS is sending elris to every occasion possible to let them perform summer dream (like in front of the military for 9 times this year) in the same outfits with the same songs. which seems like trying to promote them is simply squeezing money out of them without investing. they'll perform on another festival next year with the SAME 5 SONGS. I'm so disappointed in this company for letting down so many amazing groups. STAN ELRIS
I just want to say thank you for these videos. As a recent KPop Stan, I wasn’t fully aware of the abuse that goes on behind the scenes, so I appreciate you bringing these facts to light ♥️ much love
Topp Dogg was my first kpop group; I discovered them in early 2016 and fell in love. The members were so entertaining and their music was to totally my style. However, I joined at a time where they were going inactive. The only comeback I got to experience was Rainy Day and it felt more like a goodbye than a return. I still consider them my ults along with the new groups I have grown to love. I find it very hard to forgive HUNUS for ruining my boys’ career leaving only Sanggyun left for me to support in the idol industry. I still follow most of the other members with Xeno-T, going to the military, releasing music, and other solo activities, but I wish they had been able to succeed as they were so unique. Since Elris debuted, I have done my best to keep them from experiencing what Topp Dogg did by streaming and supporting them as much as I can. Unfortunately, the public has been unable to see these lovely, talented girls due to the lack of comebacks. I can only hope that they are able to turn the situation around and promote Elris the way they deserve. *Pardon my slightly emotional rant; Topp Dogg was my everything for a long time and they helped me get through some shitty parts of my life. HUNUS therefore causes me a lot of anger.
we have the same story pretty much! Toppdogg got me into kpop right after rainy day dropped and I've considered them my ults ever since, even though I stan a lot of other groups who actually put out content. I miss them so much 😭
I’ve never seen any of your videos before but I’m glad you talked about ToppDogg/XenoT!! Block B was my first real bias group and ToppDogg (Xeno-T) was my third 😭 Stardom/Hunus broke my heart way too many times 😢 I have trouble watching XenoT because it makes me so sad thinking about what they’ve been through and the loss of ToppDogg as a full group. I seriously hate Stardom/Hunus
all block b members (but zico) resigned with seven seasons in 2019 and zico started koz ent in 2019 as well (plus they released very good under seven seasons as well). also tho seven seasons did a lot better there is that one vlive I'll never forget where jaehyo is about to do his shoot for the cover of men's health and he just casually mentions that he has only been having salt, water, and breadcrumbs for a week so he'd look "good" (read: skinny) for the camera
I also want to mention Romeo, although they didn't debut under Stardom/Hunus, they bought out their previous company CT entertainment and the boys haven't had a cb in 2 years and several of them have gone to join the military. Also maybe you can do an episode on MMO entertainment? They are from what I can tell basically a branch of Cj&E and they have In2it. Just a few months ago Sunghyun left the group with several claims about the company not paying the boys whatsoever NOR did they pay or provide for anyone in the show they hosted that created in2it, Boys24. Now they are forcing him to pay over 100 thousand dollars to break his contract with his company. They are truly sick and I'd love to see more coverage on them!
Just want to say that Hunus definitely did not do much better for TD/Xeno-T following their acquirement. Yes Stardom and Hunus' actions should be seperated but Hunus was/is still bad to their artists and it astonishes me whenever I see people praise them when they do the bare minimum (I'm thinking specifically of Elris fans here, to be fair). Even with new management after the switch, Hunus went through another sweeping staff change at one point (I think right around the time XNT rebranded?) and Toppklass thought that things might get better. For a short while, with the comeback of Wherever You Are (that youngest member Sangwon wrote btw!!) and getting a vlog series, they were. However, as soon as promotions came to a halt they were completely neglected (minus one gig for main vocalist Sangdo) to the point that staff wouldn't even mark members' birthdays on the fancafe calendar/schedule. Now 4 out of the 5 boys are enlisted. Their contracts are ending soon I'm pretty sure, and I have a feeling Sangwon will not renew and just get himself out of there as soon as possible to continue his work as a producer free of the reins of being signed under Hunus. ToppDogg too were robbed by Cho PD in the same way as Block B, something not mentioned in this video but I'm not too surprised because it didn't garner as much attention as the former leader only exposed him on sns some time after his departure if I remember correctly... These talented boys deserved so much better, and I hate that the remaining five who loved us and the stage enough to stick it out as long as they have were hung out to dry by their awful companies.
I genuinely want to thank you for talking about this because I feel like hunus/stardom is always left out whenever people talk about "the worst companies in kpop". As someone who's been a hardcore fan of ToppDogg/Xeno-T for the past 4 years now... its been a painful journey ngl. I hope that you don't mind if I expand on the whole ToppDogg situation. I understand that you probably weren't able to talk about everything comprehensively in this video due to a lack of time and/or resources (since hunus/stardom are fairly nugu companies and it's pretty hard to find out stuff about them), so I just want to expand/shed light on a few things concerning ToppDogg. Ok this is gonna be pretty long. First of all, I feel like these two tumblr posts are important for people to read if they want to get a glimpse into some of the stuff that ToppDogg had to go through as a group: www.google.com/amp/s/abeautifulfish.tumblr.com/post/123476683624/stardom-is-the-worst/amp kokorosimzang.tumblr.com/post/123537171824/stardom-is-the-worst-part-2 These posts were made in the summer of 2015 when ToppDogg were still under Stardom Entertainment. These posts are specifically talking about Stardom Entertainment and it's important to make that distinction as Stardom Entertainment and Hunus Entertainment are NOT the same company (they're both still sh*tty companies but I'll talk more about that later) Stardom Entertainment merged with Hunus Entertainment in July of 2015. Along with artists being dropped from the company during this merger, many/almost all of the Stardom staff also left. Cho PD (the scummy CEO of stardom ent) moved over to Hunus but he left the company after a few months. He stole 300 million won (around 300,000 USD) from ToppDogg when he left and because of this, ToppDogg were forced to go on a 1 year hiatus since they had no way to fund a comeback. We know this because the leader of ToppDogg at the time, P-Goon (aka Park Sehyuk), exposed all this publicly on his twitter. Hunus really did try to promote ToppDogg at first. They gave ToppDogg their first legit reality show and they tried promoting the group in creative but cost-effective ways (i.e. getting the group to collab with popular korean based youtubers at the time to give the group more exposure internationally). In 2016, one of the members, Jenessi, got into a huge scandal right before ToppDogg was finally about to comeback with their Rainy Day album. Jenessi did a drunken livestream in which he appeared to be swearing and sticking the middle finger up at fans. This obviously caused a lot of outrage and Jenessi decided to leave the group. After this Hunus kinda just… gave up on ToppDogg. The company half-assed rainy day promos and began neglecting/ignoring ToppDogg and ToppKlass (ToppDogg's fandom) after Rainy Day promotions ended. When Sanggyun (the member that went on produce 101 season 2) ended up gaining a massive amount of popularity, Sanggyun wasn't even allowed to publicly hang out with or even /mention/ ToppDogg (possibly bc hunus was scared to upset sanggyun's new fans that he had gained through pd101 by mentioning his old group). When ToppKlass asked about Sanggyun's status as a ToppDogg member, Hunus chose to stay silent and waited A WHOLE YEAR to inform us that Sanggyun had indeed left the group. This honestly wasn't anything new as Hunus has always been too cowardly to communicate with fans promptly about member departures or literally ANY negative issues concerning their groups. The remaining 5 ToppDogg members re-debuted in 2017 as Xeno-T but hunus decided to debut them in Japan instead of Korea (for whatever reason…). After their initial debut in japan, hunus AGAIN put the group on hiatus. Because there was nothing for the members to do, most of them decided to do their mandatory military service. This is where we're at right now. ⅘ of the members are in the military and the one remaining member, Sangwon, is working as a producer (he most recently helped produce TXT's song "Rollercoaster"). I skipped over a lot of stuff that happened but I don't want to write a whole novel in this comment section (ha...hah.. too late) but I sincerely hope that people will support former Topp Dogg members and give Xeno-T some love if they ever come back. The boys have been through a lot and they deserve a chance :( Also stan Elris and Romeo because they're both amazing groups under hunus and I don't want them to end up like ToppDogg.
I miss TOPPDOGG so much, B-Joo was my icon and Hansol was such an inspiration to me I used to be so obsessed with them but then when i realised all the shit that was going on it just made me feel really bad for them, the fact they went from 13 to 5 members makes me sad, imagine debuting with 12 people you considered family, just to lose 8 of them, it's not fair I still listen to old TOPPDOGG songs from time to time, and i know they're now Xeno-T and they have really good music and B-Joo, it just doesn't feel the same :(
I'd like to point out that ToppDogg completed promotions for First Street in December 2016. Hansol, P-goon, and Nakta were announced to have left in September 2017, right before the remaining members were spotted auditioning for The Unit. Their mistreatment of TD gets even more obvious when you include the amount of months they leave the group with no work and the fans with no updated news.
Elris added two members to their lineup, I'm not sure what their names are (I'm still a new Blris) (sorry if I spelled the fandom name wrong) in their comeback in February called "Jackpot" (I highly recommend it) they also changed some of the members position in the group on their v live they we're saying their new positions in the group and introducing the new members, they're still pretty active on their RUclips by making covers and stuff from my understanding.
6:50 you're saying "brandnew stardom" but the subtitles only say "stardom".. was brandnew still a part when this controversy happened or was this only under stardom? just curious.
Your work is opening the eyes of fans all over the world. And I think it's investigative work like this that paves the way for better working conditions for KPop artists. I hope you keep it up. Thanks so much for your hard work! :)
Can you please do MMO entertainment, The emotional and physical abuse in Boys24 and Negligence in handling the group that formed from the show, In2it. They arent allowed to do activities and comebacks and havent been paid ever since their debut. Check out Seunghyun's post on IG and the various vile things that happened during boys24
yay i been waiting for this! Block B deserved better and I am still sad today that everything that happened to them most likely hindered their success as a group because these guys were/are GOOD. There was one part you didn't mention (probably for a good reason) about Mr Lee (CEO of Stardom) who ended up committing suicide during the lawsuits in 2013. It seemingly wasn't directly related to the lawsuit itself since I believe he had already been gone from the company for 2 years. However, I thought it was worth mentioning here in the comments as something that probably had a big impact on the company's idols and staff, and in lieu of awareness about suicide in the Korean entertainment industry. I remember commenting suggesting Stardom for this series. So glad you got around to it queen 😍
Elris is a five member group with members: Bella, Hyeseong, Yukyung, Sohee and Karin. Their youtube channel is pretty active with a video a week even though Hunus has been SEVERELY lacking with giving them comebacks. They only released a OST and a digital single this year with one comeback last year and Sohee's official solo debut. Here's a link to their youtube channel that has vlogs and covers!: ruclips.net/channel/UC-MRBhuTep3dzojQd5RvoFA Recently members Yukyung and Karin is in a web drama thats available on youtube right now and theres english sub! If their music so far isn't your taste but love dramas maybe it would be up your alley! The channel is called 찐엔딩 and the link is ruclips.net/channel/UCfela5_jdX8ZKhGGaxyel9g . Please check out the girls! They're so talented and improved so much since debut! They have huge ambitions but sadly their company is unable to deliver! The only thing we can hope is that they get a comeback when the drama ends since its doing pretty well!
2015 Toppdogg(xeno-T) were my ults. I knew about them before, but had really gotten into them around 2015. It was hard to watch the group slowly fall apart
Army should know about that fact (if they really search everything about bts and bighit) like a song bts released before their debut about their trainee days and i think its in rm part where he kinda like show his hates on the company 😂 still a good song tho 😂😂
Fantagio (HelloVenus, ASTRO, Weki Meki) didn't have scandals as far as I can remember and when the CEO passed away, their artists were paying condolences, they seemed to really appreciate him. It must have its flaws of course, but I think it has been pretty decent throughout the years
There is an actual good company : beat interactive, the ent behind kpop group A.C.E ( u have to check them out they are so good) . The company is runned by a woman who educate their idols about feminism and other issue , put the health and well being of their artist first and treat their fans right they even provided hotel for fans when a fan sign was rescheduled.
Topp Dogg deserved better 😩 but Kidoh is a producer now, Hansol is a choreographer and came out as asexual, Seogoong has a gf, nakta and gohn are solo artists, pgoon had a baby, and so much more
PLEASE DO FNC ENTERTAINMENT Got this from a comment a couple videos ago: FNC Entertainment shamed and humiliated AOA into losing weight, with special focus on Seolhyun (since she pretty much saved the company from bankruptcy several times.) There's even some vlogs and reality show clips of FNC's staff screaming and yelling at AOA for eating a single bite of chicken or weighing 50 kgs. Then after YEARS of this abuse towards AOA, FNC Entertainment announces Cherry Bullet, which coincidentally has the same concept as AOA's latest release, Bingle Bangle. Speaking of Cherry Bullet, they've already had 2 comebacks in the span of five months while AOA hasn't had a comeback in over a year. And when it comes to AOA's health, there's been several instances where AOA members have fainted or passed out on stage, and there were rumors that Jimin and Choa had taken some diet pills that sent them to the hospital, all because FNC was putting too much pressure on them to lose weigh
As an Elris Stan, I’m gonna kindly ask you all to keep supporting them through this rough time. They’re one of the few girl groups I found myself getting really invested in so it’d mean a lot 💕
I miss ToppDogg so much. Ot13 ToppDogg had potential but stardom/hunus let them go to waste. I feel so bad for Elris because I remember the moment I saw what company they were from I knew there was no hope for them- and that's fucking sad because they ALSO have a lot of potential..
Great video as always, I had only been into kpop 2 or 3 years by 2012 and hadnt really fully dived in yet so I never knew about that Block B controversy and random but Topp Dogg was my first kpop concert
This just makes me sad. Two of my favourite groups destroyed by companies. They were pretty well known when I discovered kpop and they were done dirty. Evol had a lot of potential and leaving three members behind without informing them is just wrong. I like kpop, but the longer I am in this music industry… the more I discover and I can't enjoy kpop the way I once did.
elris came back in 2020!! they gained two members as well and are hopefully having a comeback in july. they’re really worth stanning and their fandom is so genuine
I think the title may be a bit misleading as most of the shit that happened was with Stardom Entertainment, not with Hunus. (Two small things: EvoL debut was called "We Are A Bit Different" and Elris's name is pronounced like Ellis.)
can you please talk about starship next lol especially with the fact that wjsn haven't been paid, the way they handled wonho's situation and their involvement in the produce voting scandal
I need to find every Block B. music video and stage performance that was shown in this clip. They look SO good. I haven't been into K-pop that long so I missed it all.
could you perhaps do a video on starship? not asking just as a monbebe, but there are other groups that have been mistreated by them such as boyfriend and sistar(i'm not that familiar with sistar so i'm not that sure on what happened to them) but a video on that would be really interesting!
Is anybody else wondering how many more episodes will be made before chaennie lisoo runs out of horrible entertainments? Cause so far, she barely even started.
Can you please do GNI Entertainment and J Tune Entertainment next(they are both linked). They were accused of severely mistreating their staff and idols, while not paying them any money. It's a really interesting case. Hope your interested enough to make a video on this entertainment.
There are 100's of companies and alot of them have something shitty to hide. So there's plenty of content for this series
Also musicworks ! 😊
get this to the top
@@whitecornflower isn't musicworks associated with stone music entertainment or something like that.?
I swear once chaennie lisoo drops a video about all companies that were involved in the produce series scandal, sh*t will go down.
@@mickeyburn7204 yeah i think musicworks is under stone. I don't think they tried to rig anyone in in pdx bc they are poor. Myteen and Minzy deserved better management though
Elris are so talented and stupid Hunus repeatedly screws them over.
tzxyu aesthetics pow pow is a bop
Summer Dream is superior
summer dream best summer song of 2018.
yes stan elris yall... stream miss u
Honestly ! I'm usually one of the last to instantly "stan" groups these days (oldie kpopper here), but their debut was exceptionally good so I decided to follow them
It's so sad they've lost a lot of the traction and recognition they received from the beginning :L
The mistreatment Block B went through is something I will always remember.
The infamous Thailand interview was terrible, but the translations were very ill at the time. But, they were all ROBBED by this company. (I just wanted to interject that P.O’s family paid a ton of money towards the group in terms of clothes for their promotions since P.O came from a wealthy family..)
Thank goodness they all in a much better position and have all ventured out with their own individual activities. I am still a hardcore BBC to this day. 🐝🐝
M Rosé faxx hun,, i’m still enraged at how that thailand interview was handled so badly, and definitely scarred the boys, esp. jiho badly.
though bbcs are well aware of the mistranslation and the true intentions that happened, i believe some people outside the fandom still believes the opposite.
@@gray-zb7zr can you explain what the thailand interview was about? i don't think i got the meaning of what zico said and why it was offensive.. i don't see how his remark related to the flooding at all... how does having 7,000 won have anything to do with the damgages from the flood?
@@mydayahgase he was going to donate his 7000 won which was about 6 dollars at the time
@@htwarreh4468 oooh thank you
CrixzCel Ver That apology video still breaks me to this day. You can even hear one of the members sobbing in the background. It was like watching seven puppies get beaten up. They did everything in their power to express how sorry they were. :(
21:39 Xeno-T isn’t going to be active anytime soon as most of the members have enlisted earlier this year. Hunus never put any statements out about the members’ enlistment, but the members did post about it via their personal Instagrams.
Thank you for adding that! I had no clue that the members had enlisted.
Chaennie Lisoo It’s good! Hunus really sucks at releasing statements about promotions, hiatuses, enlistment, and disbandments, so the information isn’t too widespread outside of ToppKlass’s circle(? is this the right word?).
@@ChaennieLisoo cant blame you the entertainment company didnt release shit
Hunus posted it on the Xeno-T staff official twitter around the time of each prospective enlistment but like, the whole thing sucks..sangwon is the only one not enlisted rn
the company didn't care sh*t like they didnt promote their artist well.
kpop star: does literally nothing
knetz: that's anti korean, let's ruin their lives
Yup
International netizens (especially Thai netz) actually shittalked them first. Wow yall are racists.
Turutoot why is that racist? They weren’t that known anywhere outside korea
@@OhSoLiliana Huh?
How are we racist?
@@OhSoLiliana ????
Topp Dogg was loved by many international fans, also known as Xeno-T now... And honestly I don't see any hope for them anymore. I was shocked at first when members started leaving the group but honey they did the right thing. Sooo many talented kids. I dont want to say they wasted their time, because we ToppKlass loved them and they grew more into themselves, knowing what they really want and what they are going to do. Their stage was my first ever live concert (and it will probably be the last cuz ya sis has no pennies) and I do miss them. But letting go isn't a problem. Some of the members are doing well, having a solo career, creating their own songs, becoming a musical actor and lot's more talented. I'm proud of all of them.
Which mambers are doing music and solo now?
@@SkyDaddy777 Sanggyun, was known as A-Tom in Topp Dogg, is going solo after he was in the group JBJ, that was made after produce 101 season 2 after fans wanting the popular and talented boys to still for a group. Yooncheol who was knows as Nakta under Topp Dogg, is now known as Kinda and is planning to promote solo. Hyunho who was known as Seogoong under ToppDogg, has debuted solo under the name I'M. He has also played in a few musicals. Hyosang, who was known under the name Kidoh, has returned as an underground rapper. I haven't heard alot from him but I know that he continued as a rapper with Rock Bottom. I'm not really sure correct me if I'm wrong. Dongsung, who was known as Gohn, is serving in the military rn. But he plans to continue his music career, I think as a solo artist. Taeyang, aka Jenissi, is still rapping and has released alot of mixtapes and songs on soundcloud (go check him out). There are 2 more member who left, former Sehyeok who was known as P-Goon (is happily married♡) and Minsung who was known as Hansol (is under a dance studio making choreography under the name Navinci). I hope this helped you a bit~
@@Snowprowess thank you~ ♡
@@Snowprowess gohn is actually out of the military already and has released a few songs under the name clovd!
Edit: also p-goon and his wife divorced after five? months I believe. He's serving in the military now. Minsung is dancing but it seems he's been suffering a lot with his mental health recently so I hope he's okay now
@@scottietrademark thank you for your help... After some members left I still wanted them to shine like any other well known group, but after their schedules ended I suffered too with them and I got afraid of loving a group.. It really hurts seeing such talents go to, I dont want to say waste but it really did.
EvoL could've come out so big... Ugh, this is so frustrating
They could've been like 2NE1
Its so sad that they didn't even have a chance
Say, their leader (Now under the stage name SAAY) is now a soloist. If you haven't checked her bop ZGZG you should
@@yurisurran9869 yesss she also has a song called 'Encore' she's so talented
@@ghostofmisao. All her musics are gold!
I never knew that P.O was diagnosed with stress induced schizophrenia due to the backlash from the Thai interview. I knew that the controversy was huge but not that it affected one of the members to that point.
What they said was horribly inappropriate, but death threats towards the members, *and their families* , is taking it way too far. They were young rookies, the best thing you can do to help the situation is to educate them and get the ignorance out of the way.
That’s South Korea for ya. One wrong move and you’re painted as a villain for life.
Jyp oppar is performing rn but this is more important
This made laugh so hard
Its called oppa not oppar if you say oppar people will think your a koreaboo
Slma Laamari its the other way around - kboos say oppa w their whole chest, regular kpop fans say oppar as a joke
Slma Laamari you don’t know a joke do you
Daddy Park
Man when the YG video comes out, it's gonna be like 6 hours long and I am ready for it 🤣
And 3 hours of it will be dedicated to their most popular group (aka BLACKPINK)
UsernameNotDefined I wouldn’t say most popular group. All their groups are very popular. Blackpink is just their most recent
well they never mistreated their artist tho but did mismanagement theres a whole difference there tho ☺️
Jisoogirlie :3 blackpink is definitely the most popular group in yg internationally
It's actually crazy how many new boy bands and girl groups come and go without me even noticing and I look for new groups. Crazy.
at first i had no clue what hunus was but ive heard of all these groups!! i had no clue holy crap
Same here. Never knew Evol and Block B has been connected.
@Nightcore Sarina
wait.. waht
On their mv's it says Hunus entertainment tho.. I guess you guys just missed that part
Nightcore Sarina elris aren’t actually that closely connected with stardom! all of them were actually trainees from ct entertainment (another company that merged under hunus), and have very little connection with block b and evol 😊
Butterball2829 sameee
So basically the reason all their groups flopped is because they wanted to make new versions of groups that already exist. Korean Eminem, female block b, hip hop super junior, maybe try and create an original group??? Oh wait, ELRIS!!! PROMOTE ELRIS!!!
Block b certainly didn’t flop! They became really successful, especially after they left that horrible company.
Outsider didn't flop yet he's Korean Eminem tho he dissapeared
outsider and block b didn't flop at all, they're very successful
Can you please do starship bc the way they have been treating my ults monsta x is awful and disgusting. I am really tried of them
Don't forget what they did to Boyfriend
@@luu0w0 tbh I didn't really Stan bf but I heard that they disbanded them after shipping then to Japan bc they werent selling well or smth :( sorry I am not very knowledgeable about them
And WJSN didn't eat AT ALL
@człowiek They kicked Wonho because of allegations made by that bitch Han Soo Hee that he owed her girlfriend money. They didn't defend him in any way, kicked him out and then ignored monbebe's outrage and fierce protest, while making the remaining memers promote their comeback without him like nothing happened, two days later.
and also how in produce 48 during the first evaluation the interviews for starship trainees their trainer said something about beating them or working them even harder or something like that if they didn’t get an A
Topp Doggs Hansol now goes with his "new" or normal Name Minsung. Or with the name Navinci under with he also posts Choreography and works as a dance teacher. He also gives Courses in other countries.
It seems like he doesn't want anything to do with Hunus ENT. anymore, maybe even with his Idol live in general. I think it left some scars on him. But I can't be sure. He is also the only one of them that I still follow occasionally.
Minsung is pretty active on Instagram, he also used to live stream on his RUclips Account like everyday. I would recommend checking him out, he's insanely talented
He's coming to my country in a few days and im so happy
@@bar1338 I really wanted to go but I wasn't in the country at the time:(((
@@p0rkbunzz263 We stan an Ace
kpop is heavily over-saturated. So Elris have it rough just like other rookie groups. They have a decent fan base tho
wayament... bbc is they fandom name right because😳
@@taytay7414 what's wrong lol
Sohee is doing good as a soloist so she can do it alone but the rest of Elris girls need recognition.
i miss woojin its blris
they’re fan base is not decent... at all
You forgot one of the girls from elris (sohee) made a solo debut with the song Hurry up ft. BOL4 (edit) it’s really a nice song go check it out if you haven’t heard it!
Her solo debut was called Spotlight while hurry up was the comeback
@@cangly4413 spotlight wasn't her official debut, hurry up was
nah honestly spotlight was her "debut" but it wasn't official. hunus released spotlight bc sohee just finished kpop star 6 and she was relatively popular on the show so it was like a lead up to maintain attention. then hunus decided to officially debut her w hurry up with actual promotion stages and all
suga Coated “Spotlight” was a solo pre-debut release
Ash, I miss Sohee..
I was expecting to see something about ROMEO since Hunus Entertainment bought their company (CT Entertainment) on May of 2016. They haven't had a comeback since 2017 and the last thing I remember about them is that some of them went to MIXNINE and that controversy about Milo talking to a underage on KakaoTalk.
Me too, I really like Romeo and felt so bad for them when they never had another comeback now idek what they are doing because they haven’t released a Japan single in a while now
@@cosmicwaddles9971 I really like them too! They were one of the first groups that I stanned since their debut and not knowing about them for so long is killing me. They are so talented and deserve so much more. I even remember one time when three of the members uploaded a video without their manager knowing because they really wanted to communicate with the fans. Such pure babies, we don't deserve them. 😔
Can u tell me more about milo’s controversy?
Romeo had the potential
OH MY GOD, I completely forgot they existed. 😭
MLD Enetrtainment should be next. Their poor management and handling of Momoland just disappoints me.
Don’t forget how they treated Daisy when she was still in Momoland.
Yes!!!!
Yeeeees
what happened to them is kinda sad
@@alyssaskits4155 what about SPEED weren't they in MLD entertainment
I miss Topp dogg
Green Ranger whenever I heard a TD song I feel so strange...depressed and happy at the same time lol
I know it won't fall into the "worst entertainments" category, but I would love you to dig a bit into KQ and Seven Seasons' situation. Because the way the labels treat solo careers of Block B members is just sad. They don't get much help or support from their labels - Kyung recently had to fund his mv himself for example. ':s
isnt kq ateez’s company
@@todayiglowup4286 Yes, it is! And it has Seven Seasons as a 'sub label', but everything seems to be managed from kq anyway, so it's basically as if BB was under them as well.
How long the contract block b with kq??
@@losalisa6172 Basically ever since KQ was founded.
kpop.fandom.com/wiki/Seven_Seasons
EVERYBODY SAY ATEEZ PRESENT!!!!!!
As soon as I saw this in my subscription box, I became less bored. Especially when I saw the title. "Hunus Entertainment" is a snake and an asshole. My mind went straight to ToppDogg, who I loved for so long. They were literally robbed and just plain ruined as a group and as members of the group.
More importantly, the group members didn't really seem to go or even fit. It's like Hunus just threw random boys together, gave them a name, and made them go out there and work. Honestly, it was a mess. Thank goodness Hansol is okay now because he was treated horribly. The others, too, I know, but as more of a fan and follower of Hansol, he had it worse, especially with the group.
Agreed. The fact that there was even a "hidden" subunit called Underdogg was crazy, with some of the Underdogg members appearing in the "Happy" video. I don't think many people realized that. :-(
It seems like entertainment companies are getting worse with each exposure
can you do starship next? i’m not saying this because i’m a monbebe i’m just saying that they do poorly treat their artists as well
Plus, what they did to Boyfriend
YES, P L E A S E
And the produce babies
SockJean that’s what I was thinking too ✨
SockJean what did they do to PD??
MLD's mistreatment of Momoland and the members needs more exposure honestly. I've looked so heavily into it to see what these poor girls have gone through and it's heartbreaking. I love that you talked about mmld before with more details and less bias than so many others who talked about them! a lot has happened with Momoland lately that isn't being spoken about though, and it's very sad seeing this go unknown or people just not caring about how they're treated.
please keep doing what you do with exposing these companies!!! so many people would have no idea if you weren't out here 👏
I was debating whether or not to study for my English quiz until I saw this notification
i love elris I hope that they will be more popular soon :(
can you do fnc entertainment and mentioned the cherry bullet situation and stuff? :(
What happened to cherry bullet?
@@aleku13 linlin and kokoro kinda disappeared without an announcement and even tho ppl saw linlin idk abt kokoro
@@wompwomp4961 oh okay
HUNUS is simply horrible. elris gained a lot of recognition with their first comeback and sold a lot of more albums with color crush than they did with "we, first". However, HUNUS let them for for 9 months before releasing their "new" song "summer dream" which then lead to their hiatus until MORE THAN 1.5 YEARS! Elris fanbase is small but it is consistent, so if they are lacking funds they could've asked for a fundraiser easily. Also, what's interesting is that HUNUS is sending elris to every occasion possible to let them perform summer dream (like in front of the military for 9 times this year) in the same outfits with the same songs. which seems like trying to promote them is simply squeezing money out of them without investing. they'll perform on another festival next year with the SAME 5 SONGS. I'm so disappointed in this company for letting down so many amazing groups. STAN ELRIS
ELRIS deserves better, I'm still waiting for a comeback of them.
I miss my girls so much. :(
We are in 2021 and Hunus is still doing the same with Elris, this time doing online presentations with same old songs and same outfits
20:14 A-tom who is Sanggyun is now promoting under JBJ 95 check him out if you'd like, (they released a new song recently)
I just want to say thank you for these videos. As a recent KPop Stan, I wasn’t fully aware of the abuse that goes on behind the scenes, so I appreciate you bringing these facts to light ♥️ much love
Thank you that means a lot to me! 💖
Chaennie Lisoo my pleasure love! ♥️ keep up the great work
Topp Dogg was my first kpop group; I discovered them in early 2016 and fell in love. The members were so entertaining and their music was to totally my style. However, I joined at a time where they were going inactive. The only comeback I got to experience was Rainy Day and it felt more like a goodbye than a return. I still consider them my ults along with the new groups I have grown to love. I find it very hard to forgive HUNUS for ruining my boys’ career leaving only Sanggyun left for me to support in the idol industry. I still follow most of the other members with Xeno-T, going to the military, releasing music, and other solo activities, but I wish they had been able to succeed as they were so unique.
Since Elris debuted, I have done my best to keep them from experiencing what Topp Dogg did by streaming and supporting them as much as I can. Unfortunately, the public has been unable to see these lovely, talented girls due to the lack of comebacks. I can only hope that they are able to turn the situation around and promote Elris the way they deserve.
*Pardon my slightly emotional rant; Topp Dogg was my everything for a long time and they helped me get through some shitty parts of my life. HUNUS therefore causes me a lot of anger.
we have the same story pretty much! Toppdogg got me into kpop right after rainy day dropped and I've considered them my ults ever since, even though I stan a lot of other groups who actually put out content. I miss them so much 😭
Me too! ToppDogg was my first group and it rlly hurt me to watch them be inactive and break apart once i got into them
I’ve never seen any of your videos before but I’m glad you talked about ToppDogg/XenoT!! Block B was my first real bias group and ToppDogg (Xeno-T) was my third 😭 Stardom/Hunus broke my heart way too many times 😢 I have trouble watching XenoT because it makes me so sad thinking about what they’ve been through and the loss of ToppDogg as a full group. I seriously hate Stardom/Hunus
all block b members (but zico) resigned with seven seasons in 2019 and zico started koz ent in 2019 as well (plus they released very good under seven seasons as well). also tho seven seasons did a lot better there is that one vlive I'll never forget where jaehyo is about to do his shoot for the cover of men's health and he just casually mentions that he has only been having salt, water, and breadcrumbs for a week so he'd look "good" (read: skinny) for the camera
Can you make a video about the produce scandals (all seasons)
I also want to mention Romeo, although they didn't debut under Stardom/Hunus, they bought out their previous company CT entertainment and the boys haven't had a cb in 2 years and several of them have gone to join the military.
Also maybe you can do an episode on MMO entertainment? They are from what I can tell basically a branch of Cj&E and they have In2it. Just a few months ago Sunghyun left the group with several claims about the company not paying the boys whatsoever NOR did they pay or provide for anyone in the show they hosted that created in2it, Boys24. Now they are forcing him to pay over 100 thousand dollars to break his contract with his company. They are truly sick and I'd love to see more coverage on them!
Ramsey I think Romeo represented for Hunus on Mix9 too !
Just want to say that Hunus definitely did not do much better for TD/Xeno-T following their acquirement. Yes Stardom and Hunus' actions should be seperated but Hunus was/is still bad to their artists and it astonishes me whenever I see people praise them when they do the bare minimum (I'm thinking specifically of Elris fans here, to be fair). Even with new management after the switch, Hunus went through another sweeping staff change at one point (I think right around the time XNT rebranded?) and Toppklass thought that things might get better. For a short while, with the comeback of Wherever You Are (that youngest member Sangwon wrote btw!!) and getting a vlog series, they were. However, as soon as promotions came to a halt they were completely neglected (minus one gig for main vocalist Sangdo) to the point that staff wouldn't even mark members' birthdays on the fancafe calendar/schedule. Now 4 out of the 5 boys are enlisted. Their contracts are ending soon I'm pretty sure, and I have a feeling Sangwon will not renew and just get himself out of there as soon as possible to continue his work as a producer free of the reins of being signed under Hunus. ToppDogg too were robbed by Cho PD in the same way as Block B, something not mentioned in this video but I'm not too surprised because it didn't garner as much attention as the former leader only exposed him on sns some time after his departure if I remember correctly... These talented boys deserved so much better, and I hate that the remaining five who loved us and the stage enough to stick it out as long as they have were hung out to dry by their awful companies.
I genuinely want to thank you for talking about this because I feel like hunus/stardom is always left out whenever people talk about "the worst companies in kpop". As someone who's been a hardcore fan of ToppDogg/Xeno-T for the past 4 years now... its been a painful journey ngl.
I hope that you don't mind if I expand on the whole ToppDogg situation. I understand that you probably weren't able to talk about everything comprehensively in this video due to a lack of time and/or resources (since hunus/stardom are fairly nugu companies and it's pretty hard to find out stuff about them), so I just want to expand/shed light on a few things concerning ToppDogg.
Ok this is gonna be pretty long.
First of all, I feel like these two tumblr posts are important for people to read if they want to get a glimpse into some of the stuff that ToppDogg had to go through as a group:
www.google.com/amp/s/abeautifulfish.tumblr.com/post/123476683624/stardom-is-the-worst/amp
kokorosimzang.tumblr.com/post/123537171824/stardom-is-the-worst-part-2
These posts were made in the summer of 2015 when ToppDogg were still under Stardom Entertainment. These posts are specifically talking about Stardom Entertainment and it's important to make that distinction as Stardom Entertainment and Hunus Entertainment are NOT the same company (they're both still sh*tty companies but I'll talk more about that later)
Stardom Entertainment merged with Hunus Entertainment in July of 2015. Along with artists being dropped from the company during this merger, many/almost all of the Stardom staff also left. Cho PD (the scummy CEO of stardom ent) moved over to Hunus but he left the company after a few months. He stole 300 million won (around 300,000 USD) from ToppDogg when he left and because of this, ToppDogg were forced to go on a 1 year hiatus since they had no way to fund a comeback. We know this because the leader of ToppDogg at the time, P-Goon (aka Park Sehyuk), exposed all this publicly on his twitter.
Hunus really did try to promote ToppDogg at first. They gave ToppDogg their first legit reality show and they tried promoting the group in creative but cost-effective ways (i.e. getting the group to collab with popular korean based youtubers at the time to give the group more exposure internationally).
In 2016, one of the members, Jenessi, got into a huge scandal right before ToppDogg was finally about to comeback with their Rainy Day album. Jenessi did a drunken livestream in which he appeared to be swearing and sticking the middle finger up at fans. This obviously caused a lot of outrage and Jenessi decided to leave the group. After this Hunus kinda just… gave up on ToppDogg. The company half-assed rainy day promos and began neglecting/ignoring ToppDogg and ToppKlass (ToppDogg's fandom) after Rainy Day promotions ended.
When Sanggyun (the member that went on produce 101 season 2) ended up gaining a massive amount of popularity, Sanggyun wasn't even allowed to publicly hang out with or even /mention/ ToppDogg (possibly bc hunus was scared to upset sanggyun's new fans that he had gained through pd101 by mentioning his old group). When ToppKlass asked about Sanggyun's status as a ToppDogg member, Hunus chose to stay silent and waited A WHOLE YEAR to inform us that Sanggyun had indeed left the group. This honestly wasn't anything new as Hunus has always been too cowardly to communicate with fans promptly about member departures or literally ANY negative issues concerning their groups.
The remaining 5 ToppDogg members re-debuted in 2017 as Xeno-T but hunus decided to debut them in Japan instead of Korea (for whatever reason…). After their initial debut in japan, hunus AGAIN put the group on hiatus. Because there was nothing for the members to do, most of them decided to do their mandatory military service. This is where we're at right now. ⅘ of the members are in the military and the one remaining member, Sangwon, is working as a producer (he most recently helped produce TXT's song "Rollercoaster").
I skipped over a lot of stuff that happened but I don't want to write a whole novel in this comment section (ha...hah.. too late) but I sincerely hope that people will support former Topp Dogg members and give Xeno-T some love if they ever come back. The boys have been through a lot and they deserve a chance :(
Also stan Elris and Romeo because they're both amazing groups under hunus and I don't want them to end up like ToppDogg.
What’s the name of the song when there’s a transition to a different topic ? The melody parts .
I used written in the stars by John Ledgend and Wendy and Dumb by bvndit.
Chaennie Lisoo thank you ☺️
@@ChaennieLisoo tyyy
Chaennie Lisoo Holy shat WITS and Dumb are bops!
I miss TOPPDOGG so much, B-Joo was my icon and Hansol was such an inspiration to me
I used to be so obsessed with them but then when i realised all the shit that was going on it just made me feel really bad for them, the fact they went from 13 to 5 members makes me sad, imagine debuting with 12 people you considered family, just to lose 8 of them, it's not fair
I still listen to old TOPPDOGG songs from time to time, and i know they're now Xeno-T and they have really good music and B-Joo, it just doesn't feel the same :(
ToppDogg was one of my first Kpop groups and I was so sad after everything happened. Support Sanggyun in JBJ95 everyone!
Nice to see you again! Hope you have a good day!!
I'd like to point out that ToppDogg completed promotions for First Street in December 2016. Hansol, P-goon, and Nakta were announced to have left in September 2017, right before the remaining members were spotted auditioning for The Unit. Their mistreatment of TD gets even more obvious when you include the amount of months they leave the group with no work and the fans with no updated news.
Omg I feel bad for the groups :(
Yeah Sohee did debut solo and 4 of the members auditioned for MixNine. 2 passed the audition but both were eliminated
How have I never heard of hunus yet I love block b with all my heart
I'm so happy you did one on hunus/stardom, because people never seem to talk about them in regards to shitty companies...
This is what some kpop idols feel depressed and unwanted
I damn near had a heart attack when you said Brand New Music oml
Why tho?
@@aaria1729 my babies AB6IX are in there 😂
sayuni geenadi in Ab6ix we trust
@@rulerofmyheartz yes mother
Dont worry the story is they split up with hunus
Can you do DR Music, YG Entertainment,Cube Entertainment and Starship Entertainment please.
Stay Bin ah yes good old yg
Yes she should talk about Satan himself. YG entertainment
@@fatouenthusiast4592 true. YG abandoned most of their artists
they should do all of the companies together coz they’ve all done similar things to their artists
yoongi’s waterbottle true I guess
I’m happy elris had a comeback with “jackpot” and had new 2members joining in!
Elris added two members to their lineup, I'm not sure what their names are (I'm still a new Blris) (sorry if I spelled the fandom name wrong) in their comeback in February called "Jackpot" (I highly recommend it) they also changed some of the members position in the group on their v live they we're saying their new positions in the group and introducing the new members, they're still pretty active on their RUclips by making covers and stuff from my understanding.
It's been nearly a year since Jackpot, tho... In my opinion the company should make an effort to make more comebacks, unless they're too poor
6:50 you're saying "brandnew stardom" but the subtitles only say "stardom".. was brandnew still a part when this controversy happened or was this only under stardom? just curious.
No, they had already split at the time of the scandal. I got confused since the company changed names quite a few times.
@@ChaennieLisoo ah, okay,, thank you!
Your work is opening the eyes of fans all over the world. And I think it's investigative work like this that paves the way for better working conditions for KPop artists. I hope you keep it up. Thanks so much for your hard work! :)
ok i didnt expect anyone to know or even mention elris, even tho the reason is bad this is making me happy, how bittersweet 🥴
when u realize that most kpop groups have a lot of potentials but the companies deliberately fucks them up
Please do STARSHIP Entertainment & talk about how they handled that situation poorly...
How was the freeze choreography too sexy when songs like blood sweat and tears, the love shot, and mirotic exists
Can you please do MMO entertainment,
The emotional and physical abuse in Boys24 and Negligence in handling the group that formed from the show, In2it.
They arent allowed to do activities and comebacks and havent been paid ever since their debut.
Check out Seunghyun's post on IG and the various vile things that happened during boys24
IN2IT left that sh*tty company on January 31. They're now independent.
yay i been waiting for this! Block B deserved better and I am still sad today that everything that happened to them most likely hindered their success as a group because these guys were/are GOOD. There was one part you didn't mention (probably for a good reason) about Mr Lee (CEO of Stardom) who ended up committing suicide during the lawsuits in 2013. It seemingly wasn't directly related to the lawsuit itself since I believe he had already been gone from the company for 2 years. However, I thought it was worth mentioning here in the comments as something that probably had a big impact on the company's idols and staff, and in lieu of awareness about suicide in the Korean entertainment industry. I remember commenting suggesting Stardom for this series. So glad you got around to it queen 😍
Also, Sohee from ELRIS made her solo debut in 2018 and released one song along with A-tom.
We need a video on YG. Other than I would say you were pretty clear and pretty good at explaining the history of the company. Good video 👍
I will cover YG in the future!
The video will probably be at least an hour long
EvoL remains one of my fav ggs to this time despite me getting into kpop in 2015!
And I really miss ToppDogg!🥺
Elris is a five member group with members: Bella, Hyeseong, Yukyung, Sohee and Karin. Their youtube channel is pretty active with a video a week even though Hunus has been SEVERELY lacking with giving them comebacks. They only released a OST and a digital single this year with one comeback last year and Sohee's official solo debut. Here's a link to their youtube channel that has vlogs and covers!: ruclips.net/channel/UC-MRBhuTep3dzojQd5RvoFA
Recently members Yukyung and Karin is in a web drama thats available on youtube right now and theres english sub! If their music so far isn't your taste but love dramas maybe it would be up your alley! The channel is called 찐엔딩 and the link is ruclips.net/channel/UCfela5_jdX8ZKhGGaxyel9g . Please check out the girls! They're so talented and improved so much since debut! They have huge ambitions but sadly their company is unable to deliver! The only thing we can hope is that they get a comeback when the drama ends since its doing pretty well!
2015 Toppdogg(xeno-T) were my ults. I knew about them before, but had really gotten into them around 2015. It was hard to watch the group slowly fall apart
I feel so dumb actually looking forward to these videos. They’re so well thought out and opens me up to new labels.
Bless up Elris has a comeback with 2 more members, but I’m still worried for them
elris my poor nugu girlies :(( it's been almost 2 yrs since their last comeback but I hope their move to iok ent will benefit them...
I'm not deep into Kpop (dunno any of the groups mentioned here) but I watched this video out pf curiosity. You did an amasing job!
Hunus always reminds me of Maroo in the "fail to give the group a comeback" departament
The question is: Is there even a good company in kpop? And the answer is: N.O. (And to all the army’s: bighit isn‘t perfect either)
You don't have to be perfect to be good just saying
Army should know about that fact (if they really search everything about bts and bighit) like a song bts released before their debut about their trainee days and i think its in rm part where he kinda like show his hates on the company 😂 still a good song tho 😂😂
All of the companies have done or are currently doing scummy things.
Fantagio (HelloVenus, ASTRO, Weki Meki) didn't have scandals as far as I can remember and when the CEO passed away, their artists were paying condolences, they seemed to really appreciate him. It must have its flaws of course, but I think it has been pretty decent throughout the years
There is an actual good company : beat interactive, the ent behind kpop group A.C.E ( u have to check them out they are so good) .
The company is runned by a woman who educate their idols about feminism and other issue , put the health and well being of their artist first and treat their fans right they even provided hotel for fans when a fan sign was rescheduled.
they are coming backk! they are posting teaser photos on instagram already
Topp Dogg deserved better 😩 but Kidoh is a producer now, Hansol is a choreographer and came out as asexual, Seogoong has a gf, nakta and gohn are solo artists, pgoon had a baby, and so much more
Can you please do Banana Entertainment? They did an awful thing to TREI by just disbanding them without any reasons.
12:09 ZICO is now the Solo artist for His Own Company, K O Z Entertainment, His Song was A Hit!
Listen to SAAY's ZGZG. She used to be Evol's main vocalist.
I LOVE ELRIS
YOU LOVE ELRIS
WE LOVE ELRIS
still watching their MVs
Can't wait for an episode on Starship Entertainment TT
PLEASE SUPPORT ELRIS UNDER THIS HORRIBLE COMPANY! STAN *ELRIS*
Can you try covering SS Entertainment,and how their trainees filed a lawsuit against them,and what happened with The Legend?
PLEASE DO FNC ENTERTAINMENT
Got this from a comment a couple videos ago:
FNC Entertainment shamed and humiliated AOA into losing weight, with special focus on Seolhyun (since she pretty much saved the company from bankruptcy several times.) There's even some vlogs and reality show clips of FNC's staff screaming and yelling at AOA for eating a single bite of chicken or weighing 50 kgs. Then after YEARS of this abuse towards AOA, FNC Entertainment announces Cherry Bullet, which coincidentally has the same concept as AOA's latest release, Bingle Bangle. Speaking of Cherry Bullet, they've already had 2 comebacks in the span of five months while AOA hasn't had a comeback in over a year. And when it comes to AOA's health, there's been several instances where AOA members have fainted or passed out on stage, and there were rumors that Jimin and Choa had taken some diet pills that sent them to the hospital, all because FNC was putting too much pressure on them to lose weigh
I love this series, and I really appreciate all the hard work you do to create these videos! ❤
Thank you 💖
Can you do a video on Dublekick/MLD Entertainment? They fucked over Momoland so many times it’s ridiculous
Pixel Pudding Omg yes!
As an Elris Stan, I’m gonna kindly ask you all to keep supporting them through this rough time. They’re one of the few girl groups I found myself getting really invested in so it’d mean a lot 💕
Do CJ E&M next also Dream T Entertainment
im so confused on why we don’t have a YG one yet, they are by far one of the worst
It will have a LOT of tea
Omg I never knew Block B were in a different company before seven seasons wtf
I miss ToppDogg so much. Ot13 ToppDogg had potential but stardom/hunus let them go to waste. I feel so bad for Elris because I remember the moment I saw what company they were from I knew there was no hope for them- and that's fucking sad because they ALSO have a lot of potential..
I’m super happy that you decided to shed light and bring attention to abuse that idols face. ❤️❤️
Great video as always, I had only been into kpop 2 or 3 years by 2012 and hadnt really fully dived in yet so I never knew about that Block B controversy and random but Topp Dogg was my first kpop concert
thank you for this i hope people get to see how talented they are and how much they deserved:( i miss my TD boys:((
you should do yg entertainment and discuss the mistreatment of blackpink and how they are treated compared to big bang and winner
I second this.
You can also say how they mistreat female artists compared to males. But also they mistreated some of the boys.
Wonho's Ramyun and how yg stole bp’s tour money for gambling
rosetta how about 2ne1? Did u forget that he mistreated them even more?
Call me Kiki oh yeah he is such a bad man and 2ne1 and blackpink deserved better
This just makes me sad. Two of my favourite groups destroyed by companies. They were pretty well known when I discovered kpop and they were done dirty. Evol had a lot of potential and leaving three members behind without informing them is just wrong. I like kpop, but the longer I am in this music industry… the more I discover and I can't enjoy kpop the way I once did.
elris came back in 2020!! they gained two members as well and are hopefully having a comeback in july. they’re really worth stanning and their fandom is so genuine
sorry but whats the song that keeps repeating at the transitions ie 10:47?
Is the company "A Entertainment" she mentioned the same one Zelo joined for a year before leaving?
I think the title may be a bit misleading as most of the shit that happened was with Stardom Entertainment, not with Hunus.
(Two small things: EvoL debut was called "We Are A Bit Different" and Elris's name is pronounced like Ellis.)
whats the song that you use at 1:21?
written in the stars by john legend and wendy of red velvet
can you please talk about starship next lol especially with the fact that wjsn haven't been paid, the way they handled wonho's situation and their involvement in the produce voting scandal
I need to find every Block B. music video and stage performance that was shown in this clip. They look SO good. I haven't been into K-pop that long so I missed it all.
could you perhaps do a video on starship? not asking just as a monbebe, but there are other groups that have been mistreated by them such as boyfriend and sistar(i'm not that familiar with sistar so i'm not that sure on what happened to them) but a video on that would be really interesting!