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Vivienne Westwood said it best: 'Buy less, choose well, make it last'
I love this quote:)
Love her
Meanwhile, let’s note the irony of there being a bunch of fast fashion brands feeding into consumption by making those knockoff Westwood chokers
Yes yes yes!!
@@firefly9187 especially cause of nana and celebrities wearing it :(
Judging others for dressing "out of style" is so tacky.
Back in the early 00s I was so sure that thinking was on its way out. I would tell people “Thanks to the internet, everything exists all at once now, and instead of ‘out’ and ‘in’ ppl are starting to just be like oh she’s working a 90s prep look and she’s working an 80s goth look etc”
And even though I was kinda right in some ways (before that literally one single aesthetic would be “in”) I was also VERY wrong, as this video demonstrates
YES
@@JC-yy8iv That would be so cool if everyone could dress wildly different from each other and not get judged for it. Just let people be happy, damn. lol
AGREED and i honestly don't see anyone do this irl, but that could just be my bubble.
Like, who still does that? It's not the 90's, lol
We should all learn to sew for 3 reasons:
1. Mend your clothes
2. See how much work goes into making clothes
3. Understand good and bad materials and techniques
THIS!! And being able to sew is such a flex. Like you can make your clothes last so much longer and just a basic understanding of sewing and materials makes it a lot easier to look out for clothes that will last longer.
Omg yes. My friend threw away a tank top with a broken strap and I was like GIRL WTF thats literally 5 mins of sewing
I don't know how people can bear to throw out their favorite cloths without even trying to mend them. All my favorite tops have been mended at least once, and I'll be devastated when they finally get a tear I can't mend.
Add number 4: understand how the fit and cut of an item work with or against your body. So you understand why something works for you or why it doesn’t
Also it's a very fun way to give your old clothes new life! Even sewing simple patch on a clothing can make it look brand new and unique
True sustainability is about consuming LESS.
But that’s not what people actually want. What they really want is to feel less guilty about buying MORE.
Absolutely true
Yes!
this is so true wow
Fr, we can still produce while also reducing
@@VoiceDivine Yes, it's possible, but only if we create more product than what we put out in waste & pollution. Otherwise, the consequence will always outweigh the intent.
I get very confused when people mention that I've already worn an outfit as if washing machines don't exist
lmao ikr
Do people actually mention that to you? I just can’t imagine any real life person thinking like that
IKR!!! Like seriously😒
@@ritalucia6202 Sadly yeah, I've personally had friends and family tell me I should "buy another shirt" because I wear the same 4 ones over and over 🤷🏻♂️
That’s bonkers 😭😭 like do those ppl not have favorite clothes?? Of course u wanna wear those a lot. Ugh. Washing machines!!!!!
maybe i’m just overly self conscious but how the hell do people buy $1000 worth of clothes in one sitting??? i go to the mall for 4 hours and buy a pretzel and a candle…
exactly!! i love window shopping and just walking through malls. Bying clothes is such a pain bc im so picky haha
Same like I always come home with just loads of snacks and like 1 shirt that I’ll only wear to bed because it’s oversized and comfy lmao
same like i’ll wear the same 5 outfits on repeat for weeks bc ik they work and are comfortable
EXACTLY
I don't know how they do it too. That is me as well. I will buy a drink because shopping mall make me thirsty and maybe buy a lotion or hand sanitizer from Bath and Body works...lol
Being an outfit repeater is a flex. Your fashion attention span is amazing if you’re an outfit repeater.
I needed to hear this SO MUCH today! You're the best 🌺
If there was ever one reason I would want to be a top movie star, it would truly be so I could repeat the crap out of outfits, just to annoy the system and stand up for underprivledged and/or sustainable shoppers!
I have fix outfits and combinations, because that saves a lot of time in the morning 😂
@@amylemcoauthorSelena Gomez is an outfit repeater! It used to make the news occasionally but recently not so much, it hasn't been seen as controversial for a celebrity to have a favorite dress lmao
being an outfit repeater isn’t weird, but remembering other peoples outfit is! 😂
Can we also talk about how most "sustainable" fashion is completely void of character? I like fun, bright patterns. Why should I pay $70 for a plain muted green t shirt?
Was gonna say exactly this! I've been looking into buying more sustainable but all these brands are like "here's a gray Ill fitting hoodie, here's gray Ill fitting sweatpants"
this.
It’s difficult because 99.9% of people who are spending a lot of money on sustainable clothing want staple pieces they can wear for a very long time. Maybe you can find a niche sustainable company who caters to a more daring clientele 😁
THIS ME. Anthropologie I loved for bright, fun, and colorful but their styles are drab now.
Resort collections are usually fun and elegant but they are mostly designer $1000+
nvm i just realized fast fashion is the expensive fashion in my country
People who throw out their clothes scare me. DONATE THAT SHIT. I only ever throw away clothes if they’re tattered beyond repair or stained asf
(I left for a week why tf does this has so many likes)
This is true! The problem is that even Goodwill trashes a huge amount of their donated items because fast fashion is so poorly made and no one wants to buy a used shirt for $2 or whatever when it costs $5 new. It's also challenging to recycle poly fabrics. These Shein clothes are destined for the landfill.
Majority of clothes that are donated end up being trashed unfortunately.
Agreed I always donate my clothes and if they are too bad to be donated i try to upcycle them using my sewing machine
Use them as rags!
i don’t even throw away tattered or stained clothes i use them as rags
‘Low income people are not the ones keeping fast fashion brands afloat’ YES YES YES
This is a great sentence
I only buy from fast fashion because my family has low income and ever since thrift shopping and buying from shops like Ross became trendy I can't find any good clothes that fit my style :'(
edit: I would like to add that I don't go on $100 shopping sprees I only ever buy clothes every 4 months with a budget of $50
I’m plus size and am low to medium income but it’s hard to find clothes that are cute while being sustainable because it’s expensive ir isn’t my size.
@@lily1471 THANK YOU! Like during the around 2015 era I used to only buy from the local city’s thrift shops and like outlets here in Italy and was only given whatever spare cash my mum had or whatever my brother gave me to buy these clothes Now I only buy from really really cheap fast fashion brands like SHEIN which is annoying cause not all of it is as great quality and with the new amount of ppl occupying those sustainable options like thrift shops that are ment for people like ME who can’t afford regular big brands and it’s so sour having to see so many ppl shaming ppl like me for buying from SHEIN and telling me to go and buy from thrift shops like girl I’m TRYING!
Facts. I can’t even afford to buy clothes regardless
I love your sensitivity toward low income people and fast fashion. I see a lot of sustainable influences trying to guilt low income people from buying fast fashion with no understanding of what it's like to live on such a small budget.
You worded it right, I once shared that I bought some shein cardigans which are so useful actually and I am pretty aware of the issues about shein, but my cousin just had a disgust like of reaction which I lowkey really hated. I had no other choice since those are what I can really afford
period. I only get $120 to shop for all my clothes ONCE A YEAR. if I buy sustainable, thats like 1 or 2 pairs of jeans...
The Kardashians, Jeffery Bezos, and Taylor Swift have 17-minute flights that consume most carbon than most of us do in a year. It's time to stop placing the onus for change on the poor.
Congrats, now you have 1k likes.
True but at the same time , we can thrift flip . That’s what I do when I see something I like . I remake it with what I have or get materials for less
1000 dollars haul from SHEIN gave me so much anxiety, I can´t overcome the fact that there are ppl who buy tons of shitty clothes just for ONE video and don´t care what´s the impact of their actions! So sad!
And they probably threw all of the clothes away two months after
It’s crazy to me, and I buy from SHEIN, I buy cause it’s cheap clothes cause a lot of clothes I can’t buy clothes, plus I buy a lot of professional clothes which is helpful for me since I’m in college and I have interviews or important meetings I have to go to which require me to dress up.
@@jamirgordon9745 I completely agree, I also buy from Shein cause I really can hardly afford more expensive clothes, but then I really only buy clothes when I need and that I absolutely love and I know I will repeatadly use for the next 10 years...
What's the impact?
I saw a tweet awhile ago that was like “the same people who made fun of jojo siwa is now wearing hello kitty shirts and bratz boots cuz it’s trendy”
this is so true wth
@Billie Jean lol bet the 2000s fashion is gonna come back
@@anunknownperson4018 it already has, its called y2k fashion
I bet the fuckin Nickolodeon/Disney channel style will make a comeback sometime too 💀💀
Oh wow that is very true and sad
it sounds ironic when rich people are buying fast fashion clothes, then shaming the poor when they can't keep up with the latest trends 😬
sad but i don't know why it would be ironic. seems like the name of the game to me.
i find it even more interesting that people are being shamed for buying fast fashion when the majority of the problem (on the consumer end) is people like that buying clothes in bulk and tossing them out at a ridiculous pace. $900 hauls for a tiktok video??? meanwhile someone could just get a few things on there that they really like and wear it for ages even if it's cheap. the latter person gets shat on when the former is the bigger problem.
My sister-in-law said I am bland/vanilla and that I don’t have a style. But those insults are dumb because a “trend” is a man-made standard that doesn’t actually exist. none of us actually NEED an aesthetic/style. Companies love to make you feel like you need to have a style, need to look a certain way, etc. they profit off our insecurities and voids. If you’re not up to date, good for you bc you’re not donating money to a void
Do you realize you’re never going to stop China from using child labor. China does whatever they want because it’s China for gods sake. If you eat fish you’re polluting if you drive a car you’re polluting, if you have a fridge, an air conditioning unit, natural gas, hairsprays, etc. Also you’re not going to stop everyone from buying Shein. Shein is the only thing some people can afford and even if they can afford better Shein has nice trendy outfits for a low price. Some of y’all love preaching about child labor and turn around and buy Nike and Samsung and other brands. Child labor is nothing new and it’s also nothing you can change by bashing people who buy from Shein instead of 100% biodegradable bamboo straw tshirts for 30$ each on Amazon. Get off your high horse, find your safe space and cope.
well I know alot of designer clothes is made by Chinese immigrants in Italy, so it's the same shit
As someone who grew up poor, as a kid my family couldn't afford clothes, we were lucky enough to have the local church charity that used to donate us second-hand pieces of clothing. So nowadays, when I see people throwing away anything that's still in almost perfect conditions... Well, it makes me suffer a little. At least they could sell or give them to people in need.
I always donate mine. There was one time I got a shirt and it was the wrong size, but I accidently ripped off the tag and couldn't return it. Took it to a charity. Clothes that don't fit or have shrunk? Charity. There's no sense in throwing good clothes away.
very confused by this perception that people in the USA throw away all their clothes. i don't personally know anyone who trashes old clothes unless the cloth is absolutely unusable. old clothes get handed down, donated, or turned into scrap for rags or sewing projects.
@@octogonSmuggler exactly
@@58209 I'm not from the US so I don't really know, but sometimes I've seen rich people doing that and I don't like people who act however they prefer just because they have money
That’s why any time I have any clothes that have gotten too small for me, but are still in almost perfect condition, I donate them.
I like her pointing out that ppl who can ONLY afford fast fashion aren’t the ones to be blamed. Some ppl really vilify those who can’t afford sustainable clothing. Some don’t have other options: Some items can’t be bought from 2nd hand shop such as undergarments; Also those who are plus size or petite have more difficulties finding their size in thriftstores. The idea isn’t to avoid fast fashion at all cost but it’s to make mindful purchases and wear them until they fall apart.
It’s those rich ppl/ influencers who promote the idea of fast fashion only to discard them after wearing it once despite the existence of washing machine.
yeah, the trust fund babies who drop $1000 on shein and justify it with a “no ethical consumption under capitalism🤪” are to blame, not the family struggling to make ends meat
I bought cardigans from SHEIN years ago that I still wear on the daily. I’m a teaching assistant, so I needed professional clothes for cheap. I felt so guilty after I found out about SHEIN worker’s conditions. But, I still wear those cardigans and I don’t buy from the app anymore. I have solace knowing I’m not buying for trends or tiktok views. I never throw my clothes out. If I don’t want a piece of clothing any longer, I donate it. The idea of just buying clothes to throw them out baffles me.
Exactly! I'm plus size (I require 4XL for a shirt to fit normally over my boobs) so 'sustainable' brands aren't an option for because
1) they don't usually go up to that size and
2) if they do, there's an added fee. A shirt might be £22 but as soon as you go into the XLs, it's £33. I can't afford that for one shirt. At Shein, that's 3-4 t shirts and maybe some trousers.
The important this is being ethical about where you buy clothes. If you buy something from fast fashion because you like it and then wear it for 4 years, I see nothing wrong with it, it's the huge hauls of so many clothes that make me, personally, sad.
Yeah no thanks I wear things only once except my workout closet yuck for my normal closet
Ever notice how sustainability looks “trendy” when people with a comfortable amount of money are doing it, but is looked down upon when people with low income do it. Like I remember when people would hide the fact that they bought the shirts they are wearing from a thrift store.
thats why im so glad that thrift stores are becoming more mainstream!
@@ananyasampathkumar3832 the downside for making thriftstores main stream.. is that wealthy teens take all the good stuff to resell way HIGHER on depop and take away from the low income folks. Ive seen this issue become more prevalent in my local shops. Idk this whole fast fashion/thrift stuff is very frustrating but its great this conversation is being had
@@stephaniezee9704 i saw a post a couple months back talking about the gentrification of depop and it opened my eyes honestly. Like, taking a step back and seeing it how it actually is kinda upsetting
@@stephaniezee9704 Most people who do this are at-home moms who can’t afford childcare to go work for $7/hr.
@@stephaniezee9704 I think you should check out the r/Depop subreddit before demonizing depop resellers. 99% of the people on there are reselling bc they can’t get a well paying job, or it’s their sincere passion. Maybe 1% of resellers are those crazy ones you’ve seen, and the majority of the depop community clowns on them. I just hate seeing the horrible depop hate from people who’ve never experienced selling, or the selling community on Depop. And btw thrift stores aren’t becoming gentrified by depopers, that’s just capitalism.
Imagine having 1000 dollars to spend on clothes and buying stuff on shein???! Ugh. Also what could possibly be more shallow than criticizing people for wearing "outdated" clothing?
What even is outdated clothing honestly a lot of fashion trends are just throwbacks of the past decades heck “outdated” clothing is a look itself especially with the vintage stuff so uhm I don’t see the problem if it is outdated
Right? And in the sea of bags it look pretty biege/black/white 😭. $1000 at a fairly expensive store is still such a shopping spree. I can't even imagine finding that many things I would want to buy at once.
It’s insane to me that people who have that kind of money would go out of their way to buy low quality items just because they’re trendy and not develop their own style and purchase clothing sustainably that fit their own style. I know I would if I could.
@@NoName-dx1no You're right! A friend of mine often wears 80s stuff that belonged to her mum and does not look outdated at all, I would say quite the opposite.
The ironic thing is that these Shein type places are SO ‘trendy’ that they’re the type of clothes that will look outdated. Like those dumb shirts with the built in choker.
The $1000 SheIn haul is disgusting
It makes me really upset especially since shein uses child labor :/
I know it's not the best solution for everyone, but teaching oneself basic sewing opens huge possibilities to create your own clothes or edit ones you'd find recycled. It mainly taught me the actual value and effort behind a piece of clothing and changed the way I saw clothes.
And even more basic sewing really prolongs the life of clothes. How to fix a busted seam, filling in a hole in a sock. Those things
Did you end up having to buy a sewing machine? Or can you do it by hand?
"Cosplaying as the most popular girl in school" is basically the best description of this phenomenon I've heard.
Yessss!
very accurate
Exactly it’s… embarrassing tbh
best summary ever!
That's so funny and true
Who throws away their clothing? Unless it’s completely tattered, I’m giving it to a thrift store, a friend, or using the fabric for something else.
even if it’s tattered, my mom uses it as a rag
Same
@@nai1729 same
It's crazy to believe, but I'll casually watch dumpster diving videos, and they'll find bags full of clothing in the trash
I usually donate mines if it's still in a very good condition. I seriously don't understand why you need throw good clothing away, if you want to "save the environment", then actually start trying to help.
I think people would have more confidence in expensive clothes if companies were transparent about the actual cost of the materials and labour, and showed people how much profit they make
Agreed. So many expensive brands are both low quality and not ethically made that people are like, we might as well just buy the cheap brands and save money getting the same thing.
It's actually because the products are too expensive, the basic. And literally fast fashion in known for expoitation... so I doubt that's even a reason why people don't tend buy expensive clothes (unless that's all they can find). In other countries buying affordable clothes means second-hand or fake.
If those are the reasons why you don't buy those clothes is because you simply ain't part of the mayority that can't afford it.
This is called annual report and companies are obliged to share it, so you can find it on the internet. For example: hmgroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/HM-Annual-Report-2020.pdf
"The average American throws away 81lbs of clothes every year" wtf??????
This statistic alone nearly made me burst into tears. Just... what.... are... you.... doing????
I'm not American, but I am from a Western country, and I wear my clothes into the ground. Partly because I'm too poor to buy new stuff, and partly because I'm not an entitled, wasteful idiot who doesn't care about the environment and doesn't value the labour that went into making them. Even though I can only afford cheap fast fashion basics (on clearance) I wear it year after year, mending holes over and over until it's unwearable. Then I save the leftover fabric for cleaning rags. Finally when the fabric is used up I take it to a fabric recycling bin at the local dump. If I ever need to get rid of wearable clothes (e.g. if I gained weight, or it's something I bought as a teenager which I know I never want to wear again) I hand it on to younger family members, or give it to a charity shop. This is just... such basic stuff. How can you be throwing out 81lbs of clothes every year?? How is it possible???? And that's on average, not just the extreme.... oh I really want to cry.
I wish more people had common sense like u! People rlly need to change their ways because it’s ruining the earth and peoples lives in 3rd world countries
And they don't have to do it as extremely as you do. All they need to do is only buy what they know they're going to wear, and if they don't wear it, return it. Be careful with it, have certain clothes set aside for activities instead of wearing a delicate blouse while you're gardening. Wear it until it's not wearable, instead of getting ride of it because you're tired of it. Sometimes I do throw clothes away when they're just too ragged for anyone to wear, but only then. I've seen people have perfectly fine normal clothing that they personally don't like, so instead of donating it or giving it away, they chuck it in the trash without a second thought. Absolutely horrendous.
"a fabric recycling bin at the local dump." I've never heard of this. They don't have this at my local dump/recycling center, and my local dump/recycling center is an hour drive away from me anyway. If such a thing existed, I would love to bring my completely worn out clothes there.
@@penguinsrbirds2 I'm from a small town in Portugal and we have lots of these. You can put clothes or toys there, and they will either donate it to insititutions, or recycle if it's in a very bad state.
Tbh what made me truly value clothes is learning to sew simple, basic items. They still take so long 😭😭 now I can never throw any away. Just modify clothes until they're to your liking: too big, hem them in. Wrong colour, dye it. Too boring, add applique, add or remove sleeves, trim, etc. Too small, keep it aside to inspire you to lose weight, or donate it. They're really basic sewing skills that everyone should learn!
A quote that I enjoy is “The most anti capitalist thing you can do is find your own identity, that way you can’t be sold a new one every month.”
WOAHHH...I love this.
do you know where that's from? I really like it
I need this on my wall.
So nicee actually
This is a great quote! And, remember nothing is ever free. If it is you are the product.
It’s so frustrating to hear rich privileged people excuse buying hauls worth thousands of dollars by saying “there’s no ethical consumption under capitalism”. You’re not being smart, you’re actively feeding into capitalism.
jasmine ngo is literally the best example for that
especially when its hauls from brands like shein or fashion nova, like you fully have the funds to support ethical brands but you choose not too because......of what again?
@@phishfuud9481 exactly! if i had that money i would definitly take the time to scope out for high quality sustainable pieces, but for now i'll stick to what i have and local thrift/charity shops.
agree!! if there’s no ethical consumption under capitalism, then wouldn’t it make sense to consume less? and this isn’t all-or-nothing anyways - you can still choose to consume in ways that are more ethical while avoiding ways that are more unethical. but i doubt they actually care about how unethical capitalism is; they just want an excuse to justify their spending habits🤷♀️
@@phishfuud9481 why do they have too just because they’re rich doesn’t mean they have to spend a bunch of money on one item when they can spend that same price and get more clothes
How on EARTH do people have the money to buy 80 lbs of clothing per year? The only articles of clothing I've thrown away in my entire life were beyond-salvaging underwear and I usually wear them until there are so many holes that they cease to be functional. I am still wearing clothes I bought from Forever 21 in the 2000s (long enough that I used to wear a medium in forever 21 but the last time I shopped there about five years ago I was considered an extra small. I'm not rich so the idea of throwing away perfectly useable clothes is shocking to me.
I 100% agree. I’m so poor I shop at forever 21 a lot and shein unfortunately. I don’t feel bad tho about buying fast fashion because I’m poor. I hate how the clothes don’t last, but they’re so cheap I can’t say anything about that or complain. If anyone relates can you comment ? I’m 26 and I feel like shit that I’m so broke. I have mild autism and fibromyalgia so I have a hard time working because of the mental and physical challenges 😢
@@fifi_fluttersASMR there’s a difference between you who are buying clothes for everyday use and someone who spends hundreds or thousands in one go just to throw them out a few months later. Never feel bad for needing and wanting while trying to minimize your wasting, because life isn’t black and white.
@@fifi_fluttersASMRthis is the reason fast fashion exists. It was created for the people who can’t afford to spend $80 on a dress. Fast fashion itself isn’t the problem, it’s the overconsumption. There’s a huge difference between someone buying a $5 dress off shein and wearing it once a month for 2 years until it is destroyed, and someone buying $5,000 worth of dresses to wear once for a tiktok video before throwing them all away
My sister and I did a "haul" when we were kids, except our audience was only my grandpa. My grandma would take us to buy a year's supply of school clothes every August, then we did a fashion show for him.
Unpopular opinion but every tiktok fashion trend ends up REVOLVING around being skinny.
uh....i don't think this is an unpopular opinion lol
@Brianna Crichton skinny shaming is still not comparable to fstphobia .
@@janeakindele-abe6855 lol yeah right
Completely agree
@Brianna Crichton Tee Noir did a video recently about skinny-shaming vs. fatphobia which explains how the two are *not* comparable. Both are definitely wrong, but one is supported at an institutional level and the other is not.
Even if you think about clothing options, a thin person will nearly always be able to find something to wear (it might not be fitted, but they can at least wear it AND baggy clothing is usually only seen as fashionable on thin people), whereas a larger person won't be able to even put anything on in a lot of stores that they go to.
The clothing store that I used to work at only had sizes 00-12 and XS-L in stores until the *end of last year* when they finally started carrying size 14 and XL. The store carries up to a size 18 online, but it feels so wrong telling a customer that they won't be able to find anything in the physical store because everything is too small for them. It always felt like the company didn't want bigger people to be seen shopping in the store, but still wanted their money so they put a few things on the website.
That experience isn't something thinner people typically go through unless they go to one of the 5 or 6 plus-size stores compared to the hundreds of stores with smaller sizes.
There's many other reasons why they aren't comparable, but ultimately, it's not a competition to see who has it worse.
The problem is that people are being hurt and everyone could stand to be a little bit kinder and empathetic to others regardless of their appearance.
My mom say this and it has stuck with me: *”somebody’s always gotta pay the full price”.*
If you buy something really cheap, exploited workers are paying the rest in lowered wages.
Whew, a word!
This is beautiful. My mum sews and you really get the idea of the cost of fabric. It really scares /saddens me when the cost of a clothing item
Is cheaper than most fabric for that would be.
@@TheGcicero right! It's crazy. A few months ago I made a crochet sweater that I would have paid 25 euros in a store, while a small business would have probably charged me AT LEAST 90 euros just for the work and materials that goes into it, fairly I would say. It's crazy how much we are used to see low prices.
true. but "supposedly"(i take that with a grain of salt) shein doesn't use unethical labour. I mean Nike, forever 21, h&m, Adidas, old navy, Asos, victoria secret, gap, etc. still heavily bought and was found in violation of using sweatshops. the thing is it doesn't stop at clothes tho. Consider the fact that America companies outsource to India for example, the pay competitive rates of pay to companies in the regions, yet its still criminally low compared to what they'd pay in the states. they take advantage of the low pay in a location and subsequently also kill competition in poorer countries, making it hard for true Innovation and a country ability to gain more money and self sustain, as a whole group of people rely on a foreign company to provide. Outsourcing is heavily used by many countries to take advantage of poorer people. which also should be illegal, but then again we live in a first world nation that survives off the backs of others. if it isn't banned practice in the states then it will forever continue.
Yeah but its that job or nothing for those workers, so we can't just bash it
My daughter has at least 10 outfits that used to be mine when I was 1 year old…I’m currently sitting here watching this in a tshirt I used to wear in HS as well…it’s mind boggling to me that people throw out and buy clothes every few days.
Same. Found my father's shirts from his University. Wear them now a lot. My grandma taught me how to sew and also gathered up some of her old dresses to fit me. Now I also sew and thrift. Never bought a single thing from Shien
I buy off of shein but I’m poor and it’s affordable for me. I don’t throw the clothes out though I keep them until they fall apart
Huh?
I love that my fellow goths harvested expensive boots from thrift stores after the e-girl/e-guy trend started dying out. Like those boots usually cost $400 or so depending on the style but the thrift shop is selling them for $50. Like???
Also, even if you're not good at sewing like me, you can still modify your clothing! Several goth and punk folks customize things with safety pins (I've collected them for a couple years now from random places), patches (you can hand draw/paint them with scrap fabric), cut and braid t-shirts (way easier than you think!!), distress tights, etc.
For our alt friends who are into decora, fairy kei, various subcategories of lolita, kidcore, and other more colorful genres of fashion there are also options!! Adding lace trim to a normal article of clothing to make it cute, putting colorful buttons on things, adding cabachons, making your own jewelry to perfectly go with your outfit, etc.
You also don't need to save for actual vintage clothing. You can go to second hand shops to find articles of clothing that look like they're from that time period. And hey! Some of the jewelry is actually vintage. A lot of what makes a vintage inspired look seem authentic are the details like the hairstyles (facial hair included) and makeup.
En grande, the world is your oyster my friends!!! It isn't ita to make your own things instead of buying brand, on Wednesdays we don't have to wear Killstar, and even if you're just beginning to DIY, you will get better with time and practice!! Have fun, be you, and know that at the end of the day if you are true to yourself (if you are in a safe environment to do such), you will radiate that joy of being who you are to others and show those who may also be interested in these things but are too nervous that they're not alon and that there's no better time than now to get started! :D
Yeah same sadly I noticed I started to change my style because of social media but I am starting to become comfortable in my style again it is kinda like yours so I will start to customize my stuff
Never thought I’d see ita used outside of Lolita specific spaces.
@@lateformyownbirth I'll use it in the term "ita bag" if using it at all but made an exception as those from the lolita community know the term's neggative connotation when applied to coords and such. Some folks can be a lil mean with it, unfortunately. I love gothic lolita and found out about some of the lolita community terminology while researching in my ye olde middle school days lol
holy shit i need one of those boots
Jup, I've finally been able to afford high quality goth pieces because those egirls just throw them out, priced at nothing! They greatly add to my already black wardrobe. Something is ripped? Mom, please show me how i can fix that.
I was finally able to purchase clothes i enjoy and will wear until they are completly tattered
The question is not “why is this shirt $30?”, the question is “why doesn’t the system of capitalism pay me enough to clothe myself without exploiting another worker?”
good thinking
You should also ask why capitalism charges women more for a shirt with cheaper and shittier material and men less for sturdier made shirts.
@@redfullmoon It’s because they use the male budget on 4 shirts in 3 colors each and the female budget on 25 shirts in 7 colors. The male stuff ends up being better quality. Then you add the pink tax because it’s not enough to shaft women once.
@@redfullmoon because women are more harshly judged so they feel the need to buy more clothes compared to men. It’s sad
@@redfullmoon Because women buy clothing more based on looks and not quality
Keeping clothes for only a couple of months is such an insane concept. Most of my clothes are at least a couple of years old and because I have such a guilt complex about throwing clothes away my old T-shirt’s typically become pj’s.
Right?? Or work clothes (like cleaning cars, painting, lake/woods day clothing). Stuff I know I’m going to get dirt on
i thought everybody did that
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As a middle child I rarely bought stuff new! My older sister, (and cousins) would give me a lot of stuff and I wore it until it got holes or bleached. Even then I would wait until my mom got annoyed and told me to turn it into a rag (or donate).
Same! I actually have shirts from probably 10 years.
When I tried to dress like every one else, I couldn't find anything in those styles that suited my body or were made for my shape to begin with. I didn't just feel invisible, I felt ugly - and I kind of wonder if 'fast fashion' stuff is really targeted at people when they are vulnerable like that. I have never loved myself more or been more confident then the day I finally decided to dress the way I've always wanted. I like to think most people eventually find that for themselves at some point. It just takes time.
they give you insecurities and then profit from them, makeup companies do the same thing
I relate to that, a lot.
During my teens I wanted to be a goth but my parents didnt let me. Instead, I got jeans, T-shirts and (zip-up)hoodies. It was fine. Ish. It was only when I was 25 and during my nervous breakdown that I stopped dressing as people expected me to dress. I stopped wearing jeans and I started wearing leggings, dresses and skirts instead.
The last several months my style has been escalating: my wardrobe is turning towards an Edwardian silhouette/look and I am heading into romantic acedemia. People actually *see* me now. It feels frigging great and I have my goth outfits incase I want to express that side of myself.
And yes, most of my wardrobe is thrifted and/or sustainable. Some of my clothes are being altered by a local tailor in order to have them fit better. It's grant and I never felt better.
same
Great way to put it! I've struggled with the same all my life and now I'm trying to break through to the other side. To be myself.
I don’t follow trends. I believe in wearing what flatters you personally & what you feel confident/comfortable in. Trends are dumb & people who follow them care about what people think imo
Speaking of trends and buying the dupes: I'm obsessed with strawberries, I love the fruit as a food and as a pattern! So when I saw the strawberry dress that immediately got famous. When I saw how much the original dress was I was immediately like "yeah no I'm not spending $300 on that" and instead I got a dupe. I still have it even when the trend has died and it is my most favorite dress. Even when a trend dies... you can still love it (obviously)!
Yeah there's nothing wrong with that! I actually miss some of the things that were in style from 2000. Some of the clothes and material were so elegant. I would wear the same things if I could.
So you're proudly saying you bought a fake, a copy of a original design, someone literally stole a creator's idea and used it to earn undeserved money and you're casually talking about how you spported that lmao
Yess! People get so worked up over the fact I still like low-rise and skinny jeans even though they're the remains of the recently dead Y2K trend, let me enjoy my nostalgic fashion in peace!!
@@petal1622 the dress was $300….I’d do the same thing. Some people aren’t as rich as you
@@veronikam.4453 if i don't have the money to buy something i don't buy it, i won't buy a copy/fake of that something, i'm not rich
The thought of throwing away a perfectly wearable item of clothing is absolutely alien and obscene to me.
Yeah donating I get but who throws clothing in the garbage??
@@someonelogical7555 right!?! like even for celebrities, does the thought of donating your clothing make you feel uncomfortable or something?
in my family you either wear it until it physically cannot fit your body anymore or if you absolutely hate it you give it to a relative of the same garment size and if there is no relative or family friend or family friend of a relative who wont take it THEN it gets donated
There is nothing about Shein that is wearable. It rips apart immediately. It is the type of clothing to literally break while you are trying it on. A lot of thrift stores won't even accept that brand-- they throw it away immediately.
@@younce-davis952 yikes, the fact that they bought it is even more obscene then
In my country people don't throw out any clothes. When the outfit starts fading it becomes your "home outfit" then "sleeping clothes" then when it's all tattered you'll find your mama dusting the furniture with it 🤦♀️
Same when it comes to the home outfit but I live in the us. All of the clothes that have holes in them or shrunk I wear to sleep. I never really bought pajamas
@@marcimars3460 same ! I have a few cute and sex pajamas or lingerie pieces for when the occasion calls , but the majority of my “pajamas” are old faded shirts / shorts , some with holes , that just look too bad to wear outside anymore . and then when they’re tattered , they become cleaning rags 😂
Yes i love that
I'm guessing you're Russian?
same!!! i live in albania and my mother has clothes from like 10 years ago. like "sustainability" is somehow part of our culture
I think sometimes the term "overpriced" doesn't really mean "unfairly priced". Many people just want to say that it's stupid to pay 1000$ for panties. Even if the lace was licked by a king Julian's step daughter's blind nun. The only way it's better than fast fashion is it's impact on environment. But the core problem is still unhealthy consumption, which can lead us back to fast fashion at any point 🤷♀️
When she was talking about the handmade lace I was all onboard with high quality artistic tradition... Then she started talking about gold fastening and pearls. That lingerie set probably didn't need to exist haha
My previous boss (I nannied for 3 years) was a shopaholic, that being said, she put a TON of thought into what she bought. She was in her late 40s early 50s, and still had clothes from her HIGH SCHOOL days. Yeah, 30+ year old articles of clothing.
As a person who mostly buys fast fashion because I don’t have money for sustainable brands (I’m trying to switch to thrifting but it’s hard to find clothes I like there) it’s so frustrating seeing people who can ACTUALLY afford good quality, sustainable and eco friendly clothes, instead wasting their money on a whole new cheap fast fashion wardrobe every season 😐
Try online thrifting. You can filter for the brands you usually shop from/ would like to shop from but can’t afford new. This helped me a lot to find cool stuff second hand
try depop (but there's a lot of scammers on that app u have to be careful), vinted, or even vestiaire collective...latter app u get recommended a lot of luxury fashion but you can filter the prices and search for many non expensive brands as well (like zara and the like) + they have authenticity checks
@@adriannablack9495 I do online thrift actually!! The problem is sadly I can’t try them on so sometimes even if the measurements are theoretically right they don’t fit me :( but it’s still a great option for finding your size and all :)
Wakmart has some nice clothes that are cheap,
@@olivia-xm3hx depop is pretty expensive tho
the wrost thing is that now theres people on tiktok making jokes about "the kids making their clothes" its so horrifying an it shows how unaware and disconected they are
I know! I saw a tiktok joking about how the kids making their clothes needed to work faster. Like, how can you joke about something like that and not feel any regret about it???
Thank you for saying this I want to start an organization for child labor espically in poor countries that has to deal with fashion and makeup ( mica ) and i really appreciate it when someone comments and is very honest about where clothes really come from .
Thank you so much for bringing this up!! A couple months ago, I saw a tik tok that explained why shein and other fast fashion companies were so cheap, because of low wages, long working hours and other outrageous conditions that are/mimick sweat shops. I went to the comment section on a whim and was shocked by the comments, users were commenting phrases like, "purrr, tell them I said thank you," and other dehumanizing phrases, I was absouletly flabergasted!! As a memeber of the youth, I was completly appaled and you have no idea how grateful I am for you bringing this up!!
So incredibly inhumane and scary:/
Yeah, I remember seeing someone u follow making a joke about how they aren't working fast enough and the people in the comment section were calling people sensitive for arguing with him. And it was mostly white girls and gay guys with blm and eat the rich in their bio
I can’t understand how people throw out their clothes after a few months of owning them. I wear the same dresses i have since I was 12/13 just because they still fit and are cute 😭
same. in highschool I didn't have money to buy clothes and I already had rlly low self esteem so I didn't want to buy more. a couple people asked why I always wore the same 4 or 5 shirts but most people seemed to understand i wasn't as wealthy as them. I had those clothes until they fell apart and even past that point. now I have more clothes, a mix of fast fashion and bespoke. but I still don't have a huge closet
Shein is fast fashion on steroids and people dont get that. Its the #1 worst company to shop at in terms of human labor and green initiatives. Nothing else compares. Shop literally anywhere else and it would be better than Shein
If Tiffany Haddish, an actual celebrity, can wear the same white dress 4+ times, the average person with a TikTok account can probably accept outfit-repeating as a fact of life. Who's judging? Kate Saunders from Lizzie McGuire?
At this point I’m almost a cartoon character. I repeat my looks every time 😭😭😭.
I hope as a society we can move past this whole “outfit repeater” shame rhetoric. There’s nothing wrong or shameful about wearing an outfit over and over! The media told us lies and we bought into it
Though it didn't stop me from outfit repeating, it made me feel bad.
@@Tua009 lmaoooo I relate to this so much, I have my set "cartoon" outfit that I wear aaall the time
@@lydia6147 good to know I’m not alone 🤧. When I used to be a teenager, I’d feel ashamed for repeating outfits during the week. But now that I’m an adult and work to purchase my own things, I don’t care anymore. I have a friend who repeats the same pair of jeans during all her workdays and we both make fun saying that one days her pair jeans will go to work by themselves 🤣🤣🤣.
Throwing away clothing sounds like such a foreign thing to me. The only items of clothing I have ever thrown away are underwear and socks. Why would anyone throw away a perfectly fine shirt just because they've a bit loose or stained? JUST WEAR IT AT HOME OR AS A PAJAMA!! wth
YUH
or donate!
Or donate it, that's what I do, why throw it away what the-
fr like even if it is unwearable just make a cleaning cloth with the fabric
EXACTLY and then once its too destroyed beyond repair or it absolutely doesn’t fit anymore, we recycle them into smth else or donate them 😀
I had deleted TikTok some time ago...I have not really missed it, not once
and here i am...watching your video saying about micro trends, while i had to donate 90% of my wardrobe because i've gained weight and i don't fit those clothes anymore and very sad because of that. i loved those clothes
Feel you!😢 I'm also gaining weight and a few things already don't fit anymore 🙈
Well, lose it again it's not like you can't
@@bodofriedli3172 believe me when I say that it is good that I gained weight
@@bodofriedli3172sometimes… people gain weight… for GOOD health reasons. doesn’t change the sadness that can come from having to dispose of smaller clothing but quite often weight gain is natural and necessary
Fast fashion has caused people to not realise that clothes were never meant to be dirt cheap.
Yes! It gotten SO BAD in my country that our local crochet artist has to sell their skirt and top crochet combo for only like 1000php (which is like 20 USD) and people STILL says it is so expensive.
@@dan-gy4vu exactly!! My aunt does crochet and knitting, people expect it for dirt cheap and overnight, even for custom ordered pieces! A lot of these require a month or more of work plus lots of material cost, of course it’s going to be more expensive than a tshirt from Walmart!
ikr i sew and knit a little bit and i would never want to turn it into a business or sell it cuz i would either have to sell for really high prices for it to be worth it or i would be hemorrhaging money on it omg. like for a sweater with the cheapest yarn probably costs at least $30 in materials plus hours of labor
Clothes should be the kind of things you have to set money aside for. There are things you pay for or purchase annually, monthly, to a lesser degree weekly and daily, and emergencies. Then there are things that don't even cost that much in many cases that you need to or should replace every couple of years or decades, like for example mattresses or car tires. Clothes should be something that you spend very roughly a thousand dollars on every few years or so.
Clothes have always been dirt cheap.
The problem with "fast fashion" is that people want to sell fashion with no authentic story, It was thrifted, it wasnt gifted, it was bought off an app and that's the problem.
Its the hyper access to a trend that's causing the problem, not the price of the clothes...
So I’ve seen someone say that cottagecore is already out of fashion, but I still really like it and it’s encouraging me to sew more. So even if it’s not in style anymore, I’m gonna keep making my cute little cottagecore outfits, I like them. And making them myself def makes me want to continue to wear them too. I didn’t spend a week using all my free time making a dress to never wear it because it’s not trendy anymore??? Screw that.
Shit i thought cottagecore is now on rise because of the holidays XD
it's only "out of fashion" among people who jumped on the bandwagon purely for the clothes. the community's been thriving for years with people who genuinely love all the hobbies that come with the aesthetic! keep doing you 🌻
@@gremlita the hobbies are a phenomenal relaxation technique. I started painting again and honestly I suck but I love it all the same. I still need to get the hang of sewing though.
Me too but with the regencycore. I'm very much a period piece junkie and I love all the fashion from that time period as well as the 60s, 70s and romantic Victorian era.
@@lesbiangoddess290 same! I find hand sewing very relaxing, so even though I’ll use my machine for the bulk of a project, I’ll hand sew some seams and do all the buttonholes by hand.
Thank you so much for not shitting on people who buy fast fashion out of necessity. I'm seeing so many videos that do and it's really disheartening as a plus-sized low income person. I buy one or two orders from Shein a year simply because it's what I can afford, and wear my clothes to death. I also make my own clothes from thrifted fabrics but can take a couple months to make each item. I'd love to be able to buy nice things from sustainable brands!
Fun fact: If you iron your clothes at the right temperature setting for the fabric, it will make them last significantly longer. Even if it is just once a month.
I think most of the time people forget that social media isn't the real world. Wear that last year trendy dress friend, ain't no one gonna be looking at you sideways bc they probably didn't even know it was trendy at all. 🤷♀️
THIS. honestly, who spends their time judging what people wear irl, even if it’s “out of fashion”? sure, people do it online, but that’s more like something to entertain themselves with. if it’s not online, most people couldn’t care less, they might even think it looks good.
2 years ago I went into a bar in black skinny jeans, black heels, black silk cami and a Cambridge satchel and the girl working at the door said "oh my god! I haven't seen someone dressed like that since 2014!" I was like what??? like literally just a basic nice outfit??? was so wacky to me
I partially agree with your point and I def agree that no regular consumer should care about micro trend that much in general. But on the other hand I think we are living in a society where social media is indeed part of the real world, because how much time and passion people spend in it, and because how much influenced we get to both our actions and mentalities.
Praise this. I wear what's trendy when I like it. Already out? Still wearing it. Though I like vintage inspired clothes. It's never out of fashion because they are supossed to have a classic look. Also dresses and skirts with actual pockets 😍
Name checks out
Outfit repeating as something to be frowned upon makes NO SENSE. "I look and feel great in this outfit, too bad I can never wear it again" NO. I will wear it again because I LOVE IT and I need everyone to see how good I look in this outfit.
Like in TV shows or movies, when a woman wears something 2 days in a row and everyone suspects she went to some guys place and wears the same thing because she wasn't home to change... it's fucking surreal.
@@feena9241 exactly! So strange
Exactly!! When I was a kid, I always wanted to wear my favorite outfits. I neveerr understood why my parents would tell me not to wear the same thing every day. And even now, I still feel weird wearing the same pair of pants for more than two days, when I shouldn’t tbh. They’re a good pair of pants!! Jeez.
@@wizardlizard55555 i fully agree! I only have one pair of jeans and at first I felt weird wearing it more than two days in a row, but now I sometimes wear it for a full week! No one's ever said anything about it and I'll wash it when it's dirty or if I've been sweating a lot in it. It truly makes my jeans last a lot longer too, even though I wear it so much!
I love repeating outfits cause it's like this is what I would wear if I were a cartoon character
In my family if you grown out of your clothes, they get sent of to your younger friends/siblings/cousins and when they grown out of that they give it to their friends/siblings/cousins again, and the cycle repeats, until you can’t. Then it goes to charity.
I'm the super stingy type and I absolutely hate spending money even on necessities (using a heater costs money, wearing a blanket is free; I will walk a mile rather than spend $2 on parking), I had no idea that these micro trends are even a thing and it hurts me in the depths of my soul. I really search around for my clothes, very selective in what I buy, and I get compliments all the time on my outfits. It really is a bubble that these people are living in, tiktok is literally just middle school but an app.
the girl's tiktok shein haul when she says "why so much plastic :(", but proceeds to buy from one of the worst contributors towards environmental harm due to fast fashion
YES THEY WOULD DO ANYTHING FOR THE CLOUT
Ikr!! Just because you acknowledge it doesn’t make the fact that you’re participating okay!
the lack of self-awareness... T.T so embarrassing
Also, I found a tiktok vid about shein opening a store. And one of the comment said something like "the kids gotta work harder for me" 😔
I used to make a lot of fashion TikTok's (I still do but not as much) and I would get comments from people like "you keep wearing the same clothes, I wish you would show different stuff" ....I'm like y'all know clothing is supposed to be re-worn right 😭
I would definitely rather see a creator style the same top a few different ways than a new clothing haul every other week.
I agree with this statement, i am not a content creator, but if i was, people would probably hate on how i use the same clothes again and again. (Clothes aren't supposed to be disposable meaning that you use them one time and then you throw them away) we should find better rways to style the clothes we already have
I mean hey girls washing machines exist for a reason 😂😂 Being proud of re-worn my clean and fresh clothes 😂 ✌️🏻
I love your videos, they really helped me develop my own style and showed me all of the way you can be creative with a limited amount of pieces.
Plus doing this can definitely help with A. Expressing yourself but also B. Working out your creativity. If you have a few nice pieces and a couple of accessories you love, you can style some very different looks from the same starting point.
I LOVE seeing creators styling the same item in different ways! It's so creative, and helpful in giving me ideas to spice up my own look without buying new pieces all the time!
aesthetics are amazing, they're like mini cultures and I love them
Same I love it! Ive had the same type of aesthetic for a while, and honsetly havent trown out anything cuz i thinks its "ugly" only cuz of sizes or if they are broken.
where do you guys buy your clothes? (online please) i dont want to buy in shein
@@marie-1107 most aesthetic or cute outfits are either stolen or packed horrible
@@marie-1107 try Vinted if you live in Europe, you can find good things and it’s affordable !
@@marie-1107 minga london seems to have ethically made and sustainable clothes even though most of their stuff looks made to be trendy. their stuff is expensive though but it just makes what they promote believable ig??
For people that buy stuff, wear it, and return it. We can tell. at my store someone returned the dress they wore on Halloween night, makeup all over the neckline. I had to “damage the item out” and then I think the company just throws it away when we send it back :/
I was so surprised when I found out people bought clothes every season. I have had the same clothes for years and I'm only recently buying more because I literally have nothing that fits anymore and even then I'm probably going to wear my new clothes for the next 5 years and I'm donating the old clothes.
That is a very American overconsumption mentality.
I live in America and my family isn’t exactly wealthy. so I’ll go out on trash day to collect recycling and I’ll sometimes find whole trash bags full of discarded clothes i take them home and clean them. It’s the only way I can weire fancy clothes and shoes. the stuff me or my family can’t were goes either to the thrift store or the rag box. I genuinely don’t understand why people are so waistfull.
Same with me.. I’m too tall already for some of my things so I gave it to my shorter friends.
I recommend you do clothe swaps with friends every couple months! It’s really fun and that way you don’t waste yet have new things!
right... I buy maybe 3 to 4 new items a year and throw out maybe 2 items a year
I’m reading this wearing a jumper I bought when I was 15. I’m now 32. I feel like I should probably get new clothes soon. I’m still the same size/height I was back then, so really I’m just thrifty. Or poor.
And don't forget about how clothing trickles down, shein is clogging up thrift stores nowadays, back in the day there used to be good quality pieces in thrift stores that were a little worn and now its all just one wash away from dissolving fast fashion
THIS!!!! Finding good quality items in thrift stores is becoming a lot harder because a lot of what is there is cheap forever21, h&m, and shein. really defeating the purpose :(
Yes I've noticed this too in thrift stores in major cities. The key is to drive outside the city and go to thrift and antique stores in a rural area where their merchandise is old/vintage clothing from people's attics. And you'll find a lot of name brand stuff there too as opposed to fast fashion. I recently found a secondhand store in the countryside 30 mins outside my city that has a whole area in the back with vintage clothing
This is a large part of why I am so disillusioned with a lot of "thrifting" especially at places like Buffalo Exchange, or the other "trendy" used clothing stores. People are offloading their massive hauls of awfully made clothing on to these stores that now just carry last seasons fast fashion instead of anything of interest or quality. Oftentimes, going to different local thrift stores can yield better results but goddamn.
@@yahyoubetchaa true, plus they’re usually independently owned and their prices are cheaper. I found a good juicy couture jacket for only $5 when a forever21 jacket at a savers in the city is $17
@@kristyann6511 100%. Makes me really appreciate the thrift stores that put care into their curation
I didn’t even know people bought 1000 dollar hauls😳 that is just insane!! I come from a culture where we keep our clothes for a very long while, and honestly I am wearing my mom’s teenage clothes, and it’s great because they are still nice and trendy because ✨TRENDS ALWAYS COME BACK✨
I have my grandmas clothes from when she was a teen. They're actually so chic. Clothes last for an insanely long time if you treat them well.
old people clothes are basically free thrift clothes lmao. Sadly tho my mom had a huge collection of clothes and i always wanted to wear them but they all got burned down at a fire, RIP i wouldve been envied by my own generation for owning 70s stuff
not the case if your family used to be so poor that your mother had to wear clothes that belonged to an old dead woman ! not attacking you though because i very much agree, all of my old stuff goes to my 5 million cousins lmao
edit: i just realised this is probably because where i live was not trendy at All (and still isn’t unless you’re like 25 and under) + again, old dead people thing
Last year, mom and I realized I had finished all of my growth spurts and would remain this size for a while, so we hit the stores every three months, right at the end of each season so we could get the cute clearance items, plus a few of the on season things.
Now I have an (almost) complete wardrobe for all of the seasons, and any additional clothing purchases I've done since then are for specific needs, such as athletic wear or camping gear, or browsing the local thrift stores for neutral blouses and skirts for church.
I can't even imagine spending 500+ dollars on cheaply made fast fashion clothes, and knowing most of the people who do these hauls probably have the money to afford sustainably made clothing does not sit right with me.
Yeah fr they could've gotten 6-11 like, decently priced, decently MADE items.
Yeah especially when you can get beautiful vintage pieces that are made to last a lifetime for like 20/30$
News flash what if we don’t want to buy SuStianAbLE clothes. Let. People wear what they want
@@casuallym3 ok, but what about the workers being paid like 2 cents for creating your cheap clothing. Girl do you even have a heart. It’s NOT difficult to shop ethically.
@@estahxo even if , I stop shoppping unfortunately they’ll still have to do that . Child labor is an issue that’s way above our pay grade it’s sadly not gonna stop anytime soon.
in our asian household we were taught of this cycle where we buy new clothes > then when it becomes old, we use it as our sleeping clothes > when it becomes tattered, we use it as cleaning rugs/towels > then we can now buy new clothes
edit: woahh it's cool to see diff households with same method as ours! hope this would still be used in the future :>
african household. ^^ except they either get small
Hispanic household aswell
@@akialamalaika yep that's how it goes with my african parents, this exact cycle
SO TRUUU
Yess! I also do that at home! I used to make pillow out of my old sweatshirts. After I didn’t like the pillow anymore, I’d take the stuffing out and use it as a cleaning rag☺️
As someone that really can't buy any clothing that isn't fast fashion, it hurts seeing people throw out perfectly good clothing from shein. I get clothing from there in small portions and will keep it until it is literally on the last thread. I would thrift more from my local thrift stores but prices are going up and i can never find anything that can fit me(i would flip it but no one in my family can sew and we don't have enough time to learn). I have many articles of clothing from shein that are in perfect condition that i've had for months to almost a year. I always feel bad from buying from them but it's sadly a choice that some of us have to make, no clothing because you can't afford it, or, fast fashion that you can afford. I always look at reviews and do my research before buying and i end up with amazing products and i feel that people don't take the time to do so.
I got pulled into buying quite a lot from shein in the last couple years because it is so hard to find "fashionable" plus size clothing and I finally felt like I had access to something I wasn't able to access before but I quickly started feeling guilty about my over consumption and when I started looking more into fair labor practices I decided to try and only do second hand for a majority of my needs.
don't follow trends, wear what looks good on you and makes you feel good. Having your own style is important.
Yea
exactly just wear what you wanna wear trends dont matter, comfort does
gurll you slayyyy
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The problem is that it can be really hard to find different/unique clothes to express yourself. If I go to a mall, a lot of the clothes are the same and I can't find what I'm looking for. I think there was more variety to choose from back in the 90s/early 2000, now it's like these companies expect everyone to look like a bunch of clones. So I don't know where to shop anymore...
After my teen years and a lot of fashion experiments, I came with some "rules" when I buy new clothes. 1. They have to be comfortable. 2. To stay away from fabrics that'll make me sweaty or that after a few washes will get ugly and 3. Buy clothes that make me happy and go with my personality instead of buying them just because they are trendy.
100% if it’s not comfortable AND cute I’m not getting it and if I want pockets I can sew them in myself if they don’t have any
When I buy new clothes one rule to add is how many ways can I wear this piece? If I can't envision at least 4 ways and if it's not a piece I can wear year round I move on. Luckily I live in AZ so the weather permits the last part since I can layer or take off
Can you please tell me which fabrics go bad after a few washes?
@@liangt7228 clothes that have fake leather can shed their material if you wash them too much or just for sitting in your closet too much time. Also bad quality, usually thin nylon and spandex can strech after few washes.
Exactly! I am very particular about fabrics now. They have to be breathable, I don't want to be sweaty or smelly.
I also see how long I can wear something, I may buy some fast fashion but take good care of my garments and get a few years of use.
I've just seen a very disturbing video where some fashion fashion clothing have been professionally tested and turns out they have lead over the allowed ammount, forever chemicals, and pfas which all ruin our health, the health of others, and create ecological damage. Honestly I don't know what these trends will end up to but as long as it continues, it won't be good.
Yeah I saw some disturbing videos like that too. If you do a google search for clothes in landfills, you will see pictures of massive, mountains of clothing just sitting there.
It's really disgusting. It is leading to Carbon dioxide, and affecting our health like you said. For instance, Carbon dioxide can cause a lot of serious psychiatric problems.
I can't believe people wear clothes just to look great for a few nights & for pictures & videos, just to toss them away & move on to the next trend. A never ending cycle...
@@user-nl4yn5yo4o yup, reminds me of the victorian era and how everyday items were deadly because of the substances in them, honestly so sad how some people are aware of this but choose to ignore and not take action.
this is one of the reasons why im grateful my mom always made sure that we donated clothes we didnt wear anymore before we bought new ones
Can we also talk about how Shein packages every single piece of clothing in those hella thick plastic bags. That's an environmental disaster in and of itself. And having worked in retail, I can tell you that most clothing items come individually wrapped in plastic to the store, which is still really bad, but not the same bulky plastic that Shein uses. and sometimes there are at least multiple items in a bag. Not Shein.
I swear it’s so fucking wasteful!!!
I reuse my shein bags to keep lingerie sets together or to organize items when travelling just because I feel so fucking guilty that every item comes in one. Even recycling them doesn't feel good, even though they're recyclable.
@@ktuck222 yeah! I don’t understand why they can’t just put everything or most things in one bag yk.
@@ktuck222 the fact that the recycling industry crashed years ago and most of us have no idea
I mean most of the clothes shein sells are made of plastic themselves which I think is more of a problem for the environment then the bags they come in. This is of course a problem across all fast fashion even retail stores
the outrage over the strawberry dress being priced reasonably popped into my mind when Mina started talking about the devaluation of labor. I couldn't afford to buy the dress either but that doesn't mean it was overpriced!!!! It was a very ethical and beautiful dress, seeing fast fashion dupes made me seethe
that made me SOOOO MAD like people go on and ON about how artists need to get paid for their work and make a living but then turn around and post links to shitty $3 dupes on aliexpress???? i remember seeing people post links under tweets ABOUT lirika and the dress, it was so frustrating
Of course, and it was infuriating the way stores were stealing the design
I think people have just started using the word 'overpriced' as a synonym for expensive. It can be expensive, yet reasonably priced according to the labor that went into making the garment
That dress was expensive but well deserved since the employees work hard to make it ethically. I can't afford it, but it doesn't mean it is overpriced.
I wanted it and saw the dupes. I didn't buy them because that would disrespect the original creator. Buying dupes of Chanel or Gucci (which I don't buy, lol) is different from buying dupes from small companies whom actually work hard. And I don't think people realize that.
@@miaa1762 exactly! Gucci is a large corporation, and their clothing isn’t actually worth the price anyways, so getting a knock off is no skin off their back. Buying a dupe of a product from a small, ethical business is a whole other animal.
Me in 2022 wearing the same jeans I bought in 2013 😭 I cannot understand the disregard so-called “fashionistas” have for the process that goes into their fashion to the point that they refuse to wear their clothes more than once…where’s the love??
Same here most of my jeans are skinny jeans because those where in fashion at that time.
Now people are telling me to wear baggy jeans because those are in fashion.
9 years? It’s time to let those jeans go mama
I still wear my skinny jeans from 2016 lol. They're made with thick fabric and the durability is fine. Although I'm not the biggest fan of how they look, I just cannot fanthom getting rid of a perfectly fine piece of clothing that would be considered beautiful five years ago just because some rich girls on tiktok decided its not trendy anymore
Thank you for being considerate
That’s the thing shein has beautiful clothes but it’s not what it used to be. Back in 2015-2019 this company wasn’t going through as much waste as it is now a days
And this is why everyone in anime wears one clothes all the time, they are eco-friendly xD
hahaha. doesn't Rock Lee or Might Guy from Naruto have an entire wardrobe of the same outfit?
It’s more convenience than anything but I digress, I have found wearing the same 5 outfits gets you a lot of stares from people you see everyday. I guess it’s weird to cycle through clothes weekly? But I love what I’m wearing bc I’m comfy. We should all become anime characters, clothes wise. :D
@@pandabeartheonly7327 omg same, I barely have clothing but it's comfy, but I still feel insecire about repeating out it cycles every week
@@pandabeartheonly7327 I’d personally advocate for keeping about 2-3 weeks of clothes depending on the climate since that’s what fits in the washer when you sort into dark, white, colors
But they end up smell and stinking up the place
Tik tok just adds to the whole neverending cycle of fast fashion and trends. It gave rise to the concept of micro trends. Now trends are fast and quick and change very often, resulting in overconsumption in the name of fashion.
True.
@@rishikapaul4740 ♿♿
micro trends came earlier with the rise of social media but tik tok has definitely accelerated it haha
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True that’s why it always feels weird to me when people say that gen z is sooo into sustainability and much less about fast fashion than millennials. That might be true for a small subset of gen z but in general nothing has really changed except for the fact that hauls are now on tik tok instead of RUclips and the clothes now have cowprints and green checkerboard patterns instead of flames and orange colors.
Thrift stores are so much cooler than many brand stores, IMO. I can't get over the variety of styles they offer and the feeling lucky moment when i find something special and don't have to leave half of my wallet's contents behind to be able to afford it. And obviously i love the fact that i can give any random clothing item a new life after someone ( - or some company - ) gave up on it. And i have to add - i basically own a capsule wardrobe (one shelf that's a bit taller than me), so no, i'm really not hoarding piles of affordable clothes every month to later throw them away, unused.
Thank You for this video. Totally worth the subscribe. :)
Capsule wardrobes are my jam!! Especially because everything goes with everything else so you can throw on whatever half asleep at 6am and you still look decent
i used to like buy stuff from shein just bc i didn't have like the money to buy good quality clothes and i was coming into my personality and i wanted new clothes, but EVERYTHING i bought was just awful. fell apart within weeks, turned out ugly, or whatever. i have had several things from shein but the only piece of clothing i still have from there i bought at a thrift store actually, but they are jeans and they are like fine normal nothing special jeans. shein is just bad quality, not including the poor morals or environmental impact, like the quality is just BAD.
"Tiktokers who are are cosplaying as the most popular girls in school" READDD
That's what half of the girls in my school does
What a great line 👍🏻
I came immediately looking for this lmao when she said that I screamed 🙌🏻🙌🏻😂
my biggest issue is how microtrends are so short. i saw people hyping up that green dress from house of sunny which i think is still pretty, but after 2 months people turned to say thats its basic or too many people have them? its so ridiculous bc its a cute dress that people are going out of their way to bash just so they can be on the new trend?
oh fhdjsk i commented it before you got to it in the video. also i saw someone wear it at pride a few weeks ago and it looked ao lovely!
Yep. Back in the day a dress would be on the runway in November of one year, in the brands boutique for purchase after Christmas/around Easter, and would trickle down into the average persons shops by the end of the year - and that's just for the most fashion forward places like the middle of NYC or Paris. If you were on the outskirts or in a different area the item wouldn't reach you until maybe a full year after its debut in the boutique. Now the dress is hot for a month and then dead because of over saturation of the item, after a month or two of everyone buying it and styling it and showing it off in hauls everyone is sick of it, because instead of each person seeing it 1-5 times a month fot 6 months, we see it 50 times a week for a month.
literally, i love how trends can bring items i never knew i wouldve loved into my life, but i don’t fuckunt care if it goes out of style, it’s still cute, who cares.
I am buying fast fashion, but i wear it for years. After that i might throw it away in the textile bin (yea thats a thing here) or thrift it depending on how it looks,. Atm it’s a bit of a mix and match between cheap clothes and clothes from brands like Only, Shoeby, and some random shit i find at a market at the other side of the country. Now I have my own dressing money (50€ a month which i also have to buy shoes from) I tend to look a lot more at companies like shein. I’m a beginner goth and finding thrifted goth clothing in a country that hasn’t accepted alternative clothing for eons is very hard. I only go seriously shopping twice a year after sorting my clothes looking at what i’ll wear again and what not, plus the clothing that has just unwashable stains or unfixable holes and tears. Most clothes can be thrifted or sold on my country’s version of ebay.
I just wanted to say that people will still buy these clothes just because they’re affordable, and thrift them. They might not be the greatest quality but it would still last a while. (They’re not TERRIBLE quality… it could be better with shein, but also a LOT worse.)
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I used to work at goodwill and MAN. Thrifting for clothes is amazing and I do it all the time but WOW, they really do overprice the clothes. Especially since it’s a nonprofit. If something was Lula Roe, they marked it up to the boutique section (and don’t even get me started on how lame the boutique section is)
I bought a plain tee in France, designed, cut, and sewn in France by people who had normal salaries and social security. It was $50, which is probably what every plain cotton tee SHOULD cost if everyone involved had decent salaries
ughhh finally someone who realizes it’s RICH people utilizing fast fashion the most & not poor people. never in my life have i spent more than $100 at a fast fashion store. i thrift and buy secondhand mostly and i’m grateful to be able to!
Maybe the world is not divided into simply rich and poor, and there's a whole range of different income level based on where you live?
THANK YOU, I get so triggered when people rant about fast fashion and consumerism when not everyone buys 20 pieces of clothing a month?? Normal people can't afford it lmao
@@shintapp lol except that the middle class is shrinking
@@kittyyy_art Once a girl told me as an argument that Shein is good because they are low prices, for people without much money (note: With low quality, which in the end will make you spend more) and that is why she bought on this page, is it cheaper to buy clothes and pay for shipping? Shipping that by the way is quite expensive, plus the taxes that they put in customs? (I am not from the USA, I am from Costa Rica, a country in Central America)
Clearly she told me that when she was spending a lot of money on the page, i'm would not know how to convert to dollar, she might have thought to haul or I don't know what the hell with so many clothes, maybe a footbridge? (Sorry for my bad English, I speak Spanish)
Me too! My family has gone broke and had a few money problems for the past few years and only get very few clothes a year. So now that I have found Shein, Romwe, and Aliexpress it has been much easier to get clothes! I now buy an outfit every 2-3 months. I definitely know that companies that sell cheap items is usually mistreating their employees pr underpaying them. It pains me but I cant really change that yknow? I am planning to start thrifting but if i had money i would buy things from stores/boutiques that are prices fairly and properly pay their workers.
I saw the other day that this designer who worked so hard on a beautiful pink green knitted top, got stolen by SHEIN and sold for cheap. The designer spent hundreds of hours to create it and people were only defending SHEIN and blaming her for "posting your work on social media" and "having an expensive shirt". Is her hard work not worth anything to you? Never gonna buy from SHEIN again, I swear.
Yes! that upset me so much as someone who sews and knits clothes in their free time. Plus the designer set the price at a decent rate for how long it would take to finish something that big so what ever worker has to hand knit that at the shein factory is doing a ton of work for 15 times less then the original pay
They do this regularly. SHEIN deliberately seek out popular independent designs and pirate them fast fashion style. See also the strawberry dress, loud bodies dress, etc.
this happened to my sister and I guess the guy who owned the brand was following her. I told her to start blocking brands and their owners from viewing her page. its sad to see hard work be stolen.
That designer should sue Shein for that
DANGGIT! Other than Shein, where can I shop?
I'm so happy that you're talking about the fast fashion problem.
I've been thrifting for years now. At first, it was because the lack of money, but then I noticed, I can find a lot of clothes made of natural fibers that way. Which is important not just for our planet, but also because I get sweaty wearing plastic clothes.
literally
it's summer right now, yesterday I wore a polyester shirt and I had sweaty pits all day
today I'm wearing two light cotton shirts and I havnt sweat at all (same temps and higher humidity today)
it's actually wild
people ask of im hot lol I'm not. my entire outfit (minus socks, shoes, and undies) is cotton and covers my limbs. its very comfortable
@@Sputterbugz Why minus socks and undies?
As a woman, cotton underwear is basically doctor's orders.
Everyone says not to participate in fast fashion, but I feel very constricted financially :(. I'm a student in college and fashion is something that genuinely makes me happy, and part of my motivation to get out of bed is to put together a fun outfit- but almost all the money from my job goes to food/groceries and helping to pay with my education. The area I live in is like a "college town" and it's gentrified as fuck, and a lot of the thrift stores have sort of converted into "boutiques" or "vintage markets" and no longer really offer affordable alternatives. How do i participate in the hobby I like so much without contributing to something so opposed to my personal values?
Idk, I save up, buy basic clothes, and rewear outfits. I think about the people who make the Shein clothes which stops me.
As a poor™ person I can't imagine buying that many clothes only to throw them out 3 months later. I buy fast fashion but I also wear the clothes I get for forever. I've worn the same dress I got from yesstyle every winter for 4 years now 💀 I still wear stuff I've had since middle school 👀
Same! One of my favorite dresses is one I've kept from Hollister for 6 ish years lol,it still fits, and has the same silhouette as dresses from reformation tbh
@@kellyperaza5900 some clothes are just always great no matter what trend is popular at the time 😄😌
But to be fair, fast fashion is also not the greatest quality. It falls apart faster and tears and rips easily. So that’s a problem too…
same! i'm so thin and shein is often the only place where i can find clothes my size. i cherish everything i buy and make sure to take good care of it when i wash it because i plan to wear it for a long time.
Same! Most of my clothing is given to me by older people in my family when it doesnt fit them anymore!
I love the idea of thrift shopping, the only thing I'm not a fan of is all of these rich people thirft shopping it to re-sell it as a "vintage piece" for three times as much as they bought it for in the thrift store. they exhaust the good pieces from the people who really want/need it for the price that was marked and market it as a luxury
THIS. this is why I also have a problem with depop.
basically depop lol
You can always go to the thrift store itself if you are able to. It’s great shopping directly at the source
@@vanessaajohn I agree thrifting is great, definitely recommended if someone can, but these rich people are the source of this problem. If anyone is remotely petty like me, think of it like this, go thrifting and get items that would actually be liked and appreciated by you instead of these rich randos that would mark it up and resell it.
Thrifting itself isn't bad in any means, it really great, definitely recommend going thrifting yourself if you can. Like f anyone is remotely petty like me, think of it like this, go thrifting and get items that would actually beloved by you instead of these rich randos that would mark it up and resell it somewhere else
i feel like the key to not falling into these micro trends is to develop your own style. If you have a strong sense of style then you'll only get things that fit into your style and you'll seldomly feel the need to buy into these trends unless they fit your aesthetic
i love how this video didn’t even mention the LITERAL SLAVE LABOUR that is the sole reason brands like shein can stay on trend no matter the time span…
This is exactly why we shouldn't shame people for their fashion choices. Ever. We should be praising them for having individuality and not just following trends.
some Looks I definitely don't like, but I always respect a bold choice.
But still don’t hate on people who follows trends. It’s not just a new thing. It’s been in the 80’s, 90’s, 2000 decades as well, so why can’t we?
@@powergirlxyxg1245 Yeah I totally agree
I LOVE that this video mentioned that. Like some people claim stores like Zara are "fast fashion" and cheap- uh NO IT IS NOT TO THE AVERAGE PERSON! I never buy anything full price there
@@queenb2450i think for zara it’s less about the price and more about the extremely quick cycling of clothing. zara is expensivee but also still pumps out new clothes/discards styles very quickly, which still means it’s fast fashion
Honestly, a lot of people aren’t able to buy themselves nice clothes as they do tend to be expensive, and I completely understand that. However, I don’t understand people who spend $500 on SHEIN and then use the guise of being ‘poor’.
they aren't poor they just like having a lot of clothes. i wish people would just admit that they like to own a lot of stuff, and maybe with that they can dig deeper to the why. i love clothes too but i realistically only shop like three times a year. some people are shopping every couple of days. like you're one person why do you need that many clothes???
@@rhemaonyia1172 Exactly!!
Exactly if your able to spend 500$ in one go your def not poor
@@rhemaonyia1172 it’s not anybody’s business for people to question their amount of clothes
@@lillyk721 but 500 on shein buys you clothes to last a lifetime. You have to understand that it’s about the cheapest alternative + quantity.
9:41 that's a "yes, and" moment. Yes, designers deserve to eat and to be as creative as possible, AND they can work with upcycled materials more often. They can source from thrift stores instead of brand new more often.
I often but clothes from shein, but treat it like regular clothes and wear them often... I barely get rid of clothes and when if I do it's handed down to a younger cousin of whatever... But is it morally okay to buy clothes from shein if I wear enough out of them, even if I could probably spare. "That cute hoodie" or whatever?? Like I probably have enough clothes without them...
Her: the average person throws away 81 pounds of clothes a year...
Me: doesn’t even have 81 lbs of clothes nor does throw away the clothes
👁👄👁
I'm interested in where the hell that statistic is from tho, cos I've never met a single person who ever even throws out a single piece of clothing (apart from broken socks and the like, but like, that's not even going to amount to 1 pound a year)
the fact i never throw things out unless its broken and unfixable- like i have shirts and pants that are like 4-5 years old and they still look good and fit me lmao
@@jeminatamminen Do you typically ask people about their clothing donating habits? I bet a ton of people you know throw clothes out.
Clothes weigh more than you might think. A pair of jeans is easily a pound. A sweater can weigh about a pound. A coat or jacket weighs a few pounds. Mens clothes probably weigh more. Larger sizes will weigh more. Think of how many pairs of socks, underwear, bras you have, those add up to a few pounds combined. Clothing that you have on at any given time probably weighs 2 pounds. Not sure if shoes are included in that statistic, but those have weight.
@@jolenehoneycutt2973 even if each piece of clothing is 2 pounds (not true) I can't imagine throwing away 40 pieces of clothing a year.
Little tip: try to find clothes that aren’t too “trendy” at that time. Buy something that’s basic or something that’s versatile ( you can find a lot of cute statement pieces at the thrift shop!) . I think the issue is that people just want to Jump on so many trends and get rid of them very fast. RUclipsr ex) niki demar );
i cant go thrifting because of the pandemics and most of my clothes are at least 6 years old and my mom bought them for me (we dont have the same fashion) so sometimes i wish i could buy so many new clothes and make my wardrobe from scratch
@@maca76 you can buy from second hand online stores like vinted or depop
Wait what did Niki do, I only recently found her and she seems nice
@@ink_puke_ not in my country :c but i will look if i can find something thanks :D
@@LangkeeLongkee don’t get me wrong she’s a very sweet girl, but she’s just always doing massive trendy hauls and “closet clean outs “ every season! A normal person does not have that much clothes to be doing that every season. You should Check out the comments on those videos. It made me realize how much she’s actually wasting
I always shop from this second hand store where people have donated their clothes and stuff. The income from the items goes to charity and i feel so happy buying there. Its like red cross, not sure if every place has it. Ive found many good clothes and old sims games there :)
Fashion social media is an actual nightmare