[Black MIDI] Bad Apple!! Animation | Minelolpride’s Note Hyper Scrolling Proof of Concept

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  • Опубликовано: 26 янв 2022
  • new black midi tech just dropped - and it supports 256 keys 😎
    Here is the full write-up on the technique being used (by Minelolpride):
    docs.google.com/document/d/12...
    === Note ===
    THIS VIDEO HAS NO AUDIO. The copyright landscape on RUclips is still pretty finicky so I didn't bother (my channel is unmonetized but you never know). You can, however, sync up the Bad Apple!! Nomico video to this video (with an 8.4s sync) if you visit this link, click play on both videos (so they can buffer and catch up), and then press the play button at the bottom of the screen. The syncing isn't perfect, but this is a proof-of-concept.
    viewsync.net/watch?v=i41KoE0i...
    === Attribution ===
    Minelolpride's channel: / minelolpride
    Original Source Video: • [Alstroemeria Records]...
    MIDI Player: Zenith with the PFA+ Plugin, available here: github.com/arduano/Zenith-MIDI - honestly Zenith is a whole other topic I've been meaning to cover, but I guess this is its long-awaited entrance.
    === Write-up ===
    If anyone's remembered "MIDITrail", you'll know that it is a tick-based MIDI player, not a scroll player like Piano from Above. This means that the speed of scrolling in MIDITrail is based on the BPM of the MIDI. When the BPM speeds up, the speed of MIDITrail as a whole increases, and when it slows down, the speed of MIDITrail as a whole decreases. You can see some creators like Han SeRin take advantage of this by adding strategic BPM changes for theatric effect. This is in contrast to a scroll player like Piano from Above or Synthesia where the scroll speed is completely constant and the note's size is scaled relative to the BPM.
    What Minelolpride discovered in these "variable speed scrolling" tick-based MIDI players is that one could abuse the scrolling mechanics by making the BPM really fast for a short period of time, causing the MIDI to essentially "skip ahead". In standard scroll players, the notes become extremely dense and clustered, but in tick-based players like the one shown in this video, the entire score moves forward. Using these principles, it is possible to achieve stop motion in tick-based MIDI players under the right circumstances. BPM and timing vary massively depending on what PPQ you're editing from and what FPS you're targeting.
    === Get Involved ===
    To become actively involved in the black MIDI community, here are some excellent ways to get started:
    Black MIDI Subreddit: / blackmidi
    Black MIDI Community Discord: / discord
    My personal Discord can be found in my channel's "ABOUT" tab. This is the one you can contact me via.
    A warning to all people watching my videos - if you are epileptic/uncomfortable around flashing lights, refrain from watching my videos -- I don't recall anyone actually having a seizure from black MIDI, but avoid those kinds of videos if need be.
    #blackmidi
    #impossibleremix
    #synthesia
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Комментарии • 137

  • @mineLOLpride
    @mineLOLpride 2 года назад +59

    man it just feels like i woke up or something.
    what started as a "what if" idea about a year ago, i have finally got up and spent the past 2 weeks to make it real. it's a little scuffed around the edges but i'll be damned if it isnt the most work ive put into a MIDI yet. hell, the most work ive put in anything really.
    i am excited to see what people make with this new tech.
    much love.

    • @gingeas
      @gingeas  2 года назад +1

      with arduano's MIDI framework and other MIDI tools that have been released in my hiatus making automated MIDI editing easy, i also can't wait to see what people do with this

  • @orangepaprika67
    @orangepaprika67 2 года назад +32

    wow, i really am impressed on how extremely detailed this looks

  • @Sparki_Edward_Arsen
    @Sparki_Edward_Arsen 2 года назад +17

    The legendary moment is when he finally released a video

    • @gingeas
      @gingeas  2 года назад +6

      just signal boosting a friend's proof-of-concept! in reality i still haven't rendered any videos for several years (i lost all my VEGAS pro templates 😁)

    • @Sparki_Edward_Arsen
      @Sparki_Edward_Arsen 2 года назад +4

      WOW YOU RESPONDED TO MY COMMENT!!!

    • @Sparki_Edward_Arsen
      @Sparki_Edward_Arsen 2 года назад

      😄👍

  • @DatBoiOrly
    @DatBoiOrly 2 года назад +7

    hell yeah didn't expect i'd ever see something touhou project related in my sub feed

  • @brandoncriss0
    @brandoncriss0 2 года назад +14

    The return of the legend himself
    I know you never really left but I mean like video-wise. But seriously, this is unheard of. That must of taken a lot of creativity to make.

    • @gingeas
      @gingeas  2 года назад +9

      You can thank Minelolpride for that, I was just signal boosting the proof-of-concept he's been working on these past weeks

  • @DanieZuha
    @DanieZuha 2 года назад +6

    This is revolutionary, indeed!
    The stop-motion concept of tempo is widely used in modern audio-styled MIDIs by TrinaLydia and Han SeRin, while I have thought of applying the same concept into an art MIDI, never have I expected it to be used to render a video.
    Great job to minelolpride for achieving this work, can't wait to see what happens next 😁

    • @gingeas
      @gingeas  2 года назад

      For sure. Part of why this proof-of-concept amazed me was that TrinaLydia and Han SeRin were already using similar techniques. This, however, takes the volume to 11

  • @blackhawk5807
    @blackhawk5807 2 года назад +2

    The amount of detail is UNREAL

  • @lumieas
    @lumieas 10 месяцев назад

    this looks insane !! amazing, thanks for this great vid

  • @otherlego
    @otherlego 2 года назад +4

    he’s back!!!! It is time to be shown the glory of the Black MIDI once more.

  • @umpoucodetudoealgumacoisa
    @umpoucodetudoealgumacoisa 2 года назад

    This feels like Christmas again. I love this stuff!

  • @ArdyKyronGaming
    @ArdyKyronGaming 2 года назад +1

    Gingeas is really back for uploading Awesome Piano Videos! Thanks a lot 🔥🎹💥

  • @T2024F
    @T2024F 2 года назад

    you're back

  • @zzzlzz2828
    @zzzlzz2828 2 года назад +3

    Regresastee❤

  • @changespa9810
    @changespa9810 2 года назад

    YOUR BACK

  • @karlperez5346
    @karlperez5346 2 года назад +1

    Nice is so cool and animated.

  • @HSR_BlackMIDI_158.3
    @HSR_BlackMIDI_158.3 2 года назад +1

    Wow welcome Back lol
    I want to see your new video again hehe

    • @gingeas
      @gingeas  2 года назад +1

      🙏🙏🙏 hope I find a good job and apartment

    • @HSR_BlackMIDI_158.3
      @HSR_BlackMIDI_158.3 2 года назад +1

      @@gingeas Make a video of someone else's MIDI you like and upload it hmm
      if i'm right lol

    • @gingeas
      @gingeas  2 года назад +1

      @@HSR_BlackMIDI_158.3 I definitely plan on it after I get a good pc setup :D

    • @HSR_BlackMIDI_158.3
      @HSR_BlackMIDI_158.3 2 года назад

      @@gingeas :) Nice idea!
      It doesn't matter if it's the old MIDI or the latest MIDI, you can upload them all
      I hope you will upload my midi nicely! Hehe

    • @gingeas
      @gingeas  2 года назад +1

      @@HSR_BlackMIDI_158.3 I'd love to! Your artworks deserve more recognition

  • @aero5016
    @aero5016 2 года назад +1

    Literally the last thing I expected. This channel is still alive?

    • @gingeas
      @gingeas  2 года назад +2

      it's still clinging on to life; in reality i'm just signal boosting an idea a good friend of mine's been working on! other than that i still just respond to comments and inquiries tbh

  • @MrDave1502
    @MrDave1502 2 года назад +4

    First off, how's this a 256 key midi?
    Second, wow you (and mostly minelolpride, with the bpm manipulation) actually managed to sync up the midi's "frames" (almost) perfectly. The frames themselves are perfectly synced, but there's always one frame every second that occurs late.
    Third, i'm really glad you're (semi) back!

    • @gingeas
      @gingeas  2 года назад +1

      256 keys is possible due to the MIDI standard's byte representation of notes (0x00-0xFF is 256 distinct values, but per the standard, only 128 or 0x00-0x7F are meaningfully supported in MIDI devices).
      I didn't do any of this, I literally just uploaded his render.
      But yeah, he did a wonderful job syncing the frames up. I thought the most we could do with tick-based renderers was do speed emphasis, but clearly we can do much more.

    • @MrDave1502
      @MrDave1502 2 года назад

      @@gingeas oh yeah... for the longest time i thought the limits from 0 to 127 seemed odd (since they can be represented by 7 bits), so i never really stopped to think where (and what) the rest of the values could be.
      which now gets me to think, what is required to make use of the notes from 0x80 to 0xFF? since they're not meaningfully supported by midi devices, DAWs and midi editors (like domino) do not allow the user to go past 0x7F normally.
      If the answer is hex editing, then total mad respect to minelolpride who made this...

    • @gingeas
      @gingeas  2 года назад

      @@MrDave1502 black magic

  • @themaster402
    @themaster402 2 года назад

    Return of the King

  • @DeiDrei
    @DeiDrei 2 года назад

    HES BACK

  • @Whaited_Whashka
    @Whaited_Whashka 2 года назад +1

    Nice!!!

  • @MetronorthAwesomeRailfan
    @MetronorthAwesomeRailfan 2 года назад

    awesome!

  • @grimmy3092
    @grimmy3092 2 года назад +1

    Oh this is cool

  • @x-SuperNova-x
    @x-SuperNova-x Год назад +1

    when the world needed him most he vanished

  • @yapwilson666hulksmash5
    @yapwilson666hulksmash5 2 года назад

    Nice

  • @NordicKeys
    @NordicKeys 2 года назад

    Cool! 😎

  • @zdoesgame
    @zdoesgame Год назад

    Who knows, someday we may have a mp4 to midi converter!

  • @gatosamuraidelytph
    @gatosamuraidelytph 2 года назад

    good video

  • @lufix4969
    @lufix4969 2 года назад

    Woah!

  • @lmao56__
    @lmao56__ Год назад

    When nostalgia hits hard bro...

  • @uwu3504
    @uwu3504 2 года назад +2

    Damn I thought you had quit RUclips, glad I was proven wrong

  • @lexbianses
    @lexbianses 2 года назад

    we are so close to pirating movies using midi

  • @sntone3055
    @sntone3055 2 года назад

    Dude do you still have somewhere in your computer the 1.1 billion notes bad apple you made with a friend? Its gone now aince they deleted thwir channel but i really loved that version of bad apple, i was wondering if you could upload it?

    • @gingeas
      @gingeas  2 года назад

      I do not, unfortunately

  • @Parallax_Dayr
    @Parallax_Dayr 2 года назад

    Midi new song aaaaalllll

  • @laychanne.
    @laychanne. 10 месяцев назад

  • @someclevername2558
    @someclevername2558 2 года назад

    This only has 3.2K views? I thought this would take off, algorithm moment, though, I feel there's a small lack of music here.

  • @gdcraft6728
    @gdcraft6728 2 года назад

    woah animation in black midi someday xD

    • @gingeas
      @gingeas  2 года назад

      movies in black midi...?

    • @gdcraft6728
      @gdcraft6728 2 года назад

      @@gingeasalll midi players are now superior than windows media player and vlc xDD

    • @gdcraft6728
      @gdcraft6728 2 года назад

      @@gingeas This may be unrelated but, I was thinking if most pianos only have 88 keys (some even have 108 keys like the Stuart and Sons Grand piano), how do people make soundfonts that uses the general midi range? (128 keys)
      And after watching this many more times, it makes me wonder if there is a soundfont with 256 keys.
      It would be nice if you could answer this lmao

    • @gdcraft6728
      @gdcraft6728 2 года назад

      also for some reason i was timed out in the black midi discord for being sus lmao

    • @gingeas
      @gingeas  2 года назад

      @@gdcraft6728 I'm no soundfont expert but I would guess extrapolation

  • @Tsukiyur6
    @Tsukiyur6 2 года назад

    wow

  • @manjijuiblackmidichannel3718
    @manjijuiblackmidichannel3718 2 года назад

    Hi Gingeas!

  • @chooseaura
    @chooseaura 2 года назад

    ITS BEEN AGES GINGEAS

    • @gingeas
      @gingeas  2 года назад +1

      Indeed it has been

  • @pelhamwharton1347
    @pelhamwharton1347 7 месяцев назад

    I gonna try to upload your midi

  • @urnoze7239
    @urnoze7239 2 года назад

    🦕

  • @MegaSantiago200C
    @MegaSantiago200C 2 года назад

    So they say Bad Apple can be played anywhere and apparently it's true.

  • @changespa9810
    @changespa9810 2 года назад

    Play noise challenge (Like paprika’s challenge 4)

  • @WawaCL
    @WawaCL 2 года назад

    [Black MIDI] Bad Apple pelicula completa en español latino subtitulado en ingles 1080(p)

  • @guyman123
    @guyman123 9 месяцев назад +1

    Where is audio?

  • @cuongvlog6358
    @cuongvlog6358 2 года назад

    256 keys piano from above

  • @azazeltoast
    @azazeltoast 2 года назад

    Do dusttrust phase 2 maniacs revenge but with paino

  • @notatallbruh2011
    @notatallbruh2011 8 месяцев назад

    No audio however.

  • @axleylefennec
    @axleylefennec 2 года назад

    zamn

  • @2048Megabytes.
    @2048Megabytes. 2 месяца назад

    First tsmb2 disappears, then you? What is happening to my favorite black midi creators

    • @gingeas
      @gingeas  2 месяца назад +2

      life unfortunately

    • @2048Megabytes.
      @2048Megabytes. 2 месяца назад

      @@gingeas understandable, hope you come back eventually once youre ready

  • @Beach_doge
    @Beach_doge 2 года назад +1

    how did you do this I’m so confused???

    • @gingeas
      @gingeas  2 года назад +1

      There's a write-up in the description by the author of this technique

    • @Beach_doge
      @Beach_doge 2 года назад +1

      @@gingeas oooooooh that’s how

  • @CarlTheYoutuber10k
    @CarlTheYoutuber10k 7 дней назад

    reply if you're still active

  • @RainySnowOfficial
    @RainySnowOfficial Год назад

    0:00 i see 22 or 23 octaves 22 👮‍♀️

  • @pascalrault3455
    @pascalrault3455 Год назад

    is nobody going to talk about the animation glitching out every second like it's from the 70s?

  • @SpicyInvalid
    @SpicyInvalid 2 года назад

    am I missing something? Where is the music?

    • @gingeas
      @gingeas  2 года назад

      I didn't attach audio to the file-but you can sync the video and the Bad Apple!! Nomico audio up using the viewsync link in the description

  • @zionbdmidi
    @zionbdmidi 2 года назад +1

    Hi

  • @NewFall
    @NewFall 2 года назад

    256 keys

  • @pelhamwharton1347
    @pelhamwharton1347 10 месяцев назад

    Do you know Z-Doc and Do you Like him

    • @gingeas
      @gingeas  10 месяцев назад +2

      they're one of my day1s, and they still upload on youtube to this day

  • @dogMIDI
    @dogMIDI Год назад

    I wonder how many notes is this

    • @gingeas
      @gingeas  10 месяцев назад

      more than 3

    • @dogMIDI
      @dogMIDI 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@gingeasi hope its not trillions

    • @gingeas
      @gingeas  10 месяцев назад

      @@dogMIDI At least 4

    • @dogMIDI
      @dogMIDI 10 месяцев назад

      ​​​@@gingeasbruh

  • @kanoslayer2735
    @kanoslayer2735 2 года назад

    Am I the only one not hearing any audio from this video?

    • @gingeas
      @gingeas  2 года назад +1

      the video has no audio. see description

    • @kanoslayer2735
      @kanoslayer2735 2 года назад

      @@gingeas Ah thanks for the info, I use the app so I sometimes have audio issues... I thought it was that happening again lol

  • @pelhamwharton1347
    @pelhamwharton1347 Год назад

    Why did you deleted your thefatrat unity videos

    • @pelhamwharton1347
      @pelhamwharton1347 Год назад

      And why you're gonna watch piano videos do you like piano

    • @gingeas
      @gingeas  Год назад

      I don't remember specifically why but probably because of author request.

    • @pelhamwharton1347
      @pelhamwharton1347 11 месяцев назад

      Anyway I always upload black midi videos but I unlisted it but I'm not saying I deleted it

  • @dogMIDI
    @dogMIDI 11 месяцев назад

    Of course kiva cant play it

  • @cyxo_o
    @cyxo_o 2 года назад

    I wish we could hear the notes

    • @gingeas
      @gingeas  2 года назад

      The syncing isn't perfect, but if you go to the description, you can find a RUclips video doubler that puts the audio and video side-by-side.

    • @cyxo_o
      @cyxo_o 2 года назад

      @@gingeas Oh yeah that works but I meant hearing the piano notes like in a regular Black MIDI 1😁 (I know there was a black midi of bad apple released a few years ago)

    • @gingeas
      @gingeas  2 года назад

      @@cyxo_o oh true that'd sound funny

  • @flamboyantliquid7659
    @flamboyantliquid7659 9 месяцев назад

    upload 😭

    • @gingeas
      @gingeas  9 месяцев назад +3

      meep

  • @pelhamwharton1347
    @pelhamwharton1347 Год назад

    Do you play piano

  • @nextmozesito
    @nextmozesito 2 года назад +1

    No se oye ni madres!

  • @lol-ty5pd
    @lol-ty5pd 2 года назад

    im ban in bmc pls tell the owner to unban me

    • @gingeas
      @gingeas  2 года назад

      What did you do lmao

    • @lol-ty5pd
      @lol-ty5pd 2 года назад

      @@gingeas age of make discord acc like 2 years ago

    • @gingeas
      @gingeas  2 года назад

      @@lol-ty5pd what's your discord

    • @lol-ty5pd
      @lol-ty5pd 2 года назад

      @@gingeas MEOWMID HATER#2423

    • @gingeas
      @gingeas  2 года назад

      @@lol-ty5pd try joining now

  • @pelhamwharton1347
    @pelhamwharton1347 Год назад

    Are you dead

  • @LavaCreeperPeople
    @LavaCreeperPeople 2 месяца назад +1

    Dead Channel

  • @reimu98hikase28
    @reimu98hikase28 2 года назад

    Nice