We're Forced to Take the Truck Camper Off! Something Major is Wrong with our Ford Diesel
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- We're forced to take the truck camper off. Something major is wrong with our F350 6.7L Powerstroke diesel. Over the last year we have put 50,000 miles on our truck traveling across the country in our truck camper. We have never taken off the camper, now we have to. We leave Little Rock, Arkansas to head back to our home town of Texarkana. We have an appointment at the Ford dealership for them to evaluate the problem. While waiting we had breakfast at Cafe Lucile we got the call from the dealership and we were not 100 percent sure that the dealerships answer to the problem was correct. So we got a second opinion at Blue Gorilla Garage. We will see what happens.
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Once a dealer told me my motor needed to be rebuilt, I didn't have the huge amount of $ they qouted, I told them that I would pick it up after work. When I got there they said good news it didn't need rebuilding, we adjusted the valves. I'll always believe they were trying to scam me big time.
Same thing happened to us!
yes it happens I am an ex dealer mechanic, a lot of things like that happened, I have had my own shop for 34 years, no one has ever been cheated on my watch, I no longer take new customers because I have been accused of cheating people just expect it, my regular customers know they can trust me
Most seniors here in Bullhead AZ are always being told a new motor or transmission or front end 🤔 never go to dealer first. And they break something for you to come back. They must meet they're quotas
Just a word of caution, I would always place some sort of cross member supports under the lower side of the camper when working under it, I have never been the type of person to trust any jacks no matter how new they are.
Spot on! Thank you.
Yeah Buddy!! At 15, marooned on Dad's apt house shingling. On other side of street, my Buddy 4 yrs older had jacked '55 Chevy Coupe up high, removed wheels, used columns of blocks jackin' up four corners, turned up ghetto blaster, & happy as clam. I got bad thought, turned around, yelled, "Hollis, Gramps (his landlord) said he onloaded cinderblocks, you didn't use them did ya? Hollis annoyed as couldn't hear, but creepered back, & yelled, "What..Kafrickin' Blamo!", as car slammed into concrete. All cider blocks granulated, as they tend to do, so Hollis asked, "What did you say?" I responded, "Never mind...it's too late". Hollis still curious, so told 'em' Gramps said he'd unloaded cinderblocks there, & I was afraid you were committin' Sewerside!! I rented apt in Dad's bldg for another 5 years, but it cost me ZERO for Caddy's Maintenance/Repairs, something about, Hollis had said good to be alive!
It made me nervous to watch too.
Now you need a third opinion cuz you told the second shop what the first shop said. You want them to find the problem.
Ditto, better to tell them nothing and see what they find.
Exactly.....
Oh, Lord, I would’ve never done the work for another shop by telling him what the first shop found. That’s just a way that they can under bid and still do unnecessary work. You need a third opinion this time don’t say nothing. With a big expensive truck like that they see you coming and they see dollar signs. Rat bastards.!
Agreed 💯
Pay the diagnostic fees and remain silent be like Sargent Schultz we know nothing
If you're worried about the camper when not on truck in the wind you should get Lock arm stabilizing bars. Just a FYI.
Here’s praying the answer is clear, definitive and a very, VERY SIMPLE fix. Rest well. It’ll all work out.
Should have kept my 1978 Dodge Snow Commander with the Military Drive Train, it was a beast !!!
Cody made me nervous when he was working under the camper. Praying for you for no major issue with the truck.
Me too. Those legs look too skinny.
Yes, ditto.@@joecifelli1253
Yeah, me too! You can't be too careful.
Guys the wife and I are praying for y'all. I'm sorry y'all are going through all these hardaches with the truck.
This is why I own a 1977 Chevy Camper Special.
Easy to fix with simple had tools and the parts are cheap a new fuel pump is $15 and twenty minutes to install.
No Computers or other junk that is not field serviceable.
And why I own a '93 F250 with the IDI diesel. It will pull anything, anywhere that a $100K shiny plastic 2024 truck will-it just won't do it as fast or with the same style...
Hi guys, a shop owner and mechanic here, it’s sounds like the high pressure pump in the fuel system is failing, a well known issue with the Ford Heavy Duty diesel engines, you can thank Ford engineering for that. Of course proper testing has to be done before that can be called. I have read comments suggesting to not tell one shop what another shop found in their diagnostic process, that’s backwards. A good shop is going to have knowledgeable tech staff working there and can quickly discern if the previous diagnostic sounds correct or if it is a waste of time going in that direction. Try doing that when you visit your doctor. Time is money holds true for mechanical service. Try finding a shop that you trust and stick to them, in the long run it will make your life a bit easier. I’m in my 70’s and have traveled the life road you’re on and can say this, it may be expensive to fix this time but you’ll figure it out together, then just move on and count your blessings because you have each other and enjoy your life.
Yeah, Chevy and Dodge used the same pump. We can truly thank Bosch for the issue. They sold American manufacturers a pump that was not compatible with ULSD.
@@registrationhaterRam did use it, but once they knew of the major issues it caused, they recalled every truck and swapped it back to the trusty CP3
That’s not a deisel
My neighbor had this problem three times on his F-350. He fixed the issue The last time by getting it fixed again and did a delete kit and he's had zero problems since
exactly for once its not just a ford problem, bosch is the culprit. But ignorance with a spoon full of incompetence is so annoying. of course a dealership is gonna come in with their quote because their BIG overhead and in this case actually know what the case is because they have been warrantying them. too bad that the other shop blue whatever just cleaned the metal out of the tank but the metal will build back up in time and ruin the entire fuel system and "Steve and Sarah Newlin" will sell it to someone with the issues that they were "too smart" to fix from the get go.
You need to replace that CP4 with an S & S DCR pump. Designed specifiaclly to solve this problem.
Bosch blew it on this pump. The prior CP3 on my 5.9 Cummins is very reliable.
@@davidanderson8469 the CP3 doesn’t grenade like the CP4.2, but it is also not capable of providing the high pressure that Ford utilizes in today’s 6.7. And of course, it is too large to fit in the small space the CP4 fits in.
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Look into CPX pump, it will fit where Ford placed the CP4 pump. Last thing you need in back country is a fuel system failure that destroys all that comes in contact with fuel with metal chards. Total repair cost after cp4 pump failure ranges from 10-15,000.
Worth checking out differentboptions that will work with Ford engines.
Yup
Check your fuel pump.my sierra did the same thing twice and my Silverado did to.Both had bad fuel pumps.
You got it. It's the cp4 everytime
Isn’t you truck brand new? It’s not covered on your warranty? I’m so sorry you’re going through this:(. I’m like Kelly and get stressed out/nervous when things go wrong with our truck or camper. I’ll keep my fingers crossed that you hear better news soon! Take care you two!
It’s new to us, we bought it used 2017 model. No warranty
Interesting to see this video. I’m currently going thru a similar situation. When i take the load off of the truck it runs fine and doesn’t throw a code. Put the Rv on it and throws a code. Today I take the truck & Rv to pick up the mechanic for a ride along with his computer hooked to the truck.
We’ve had our camper a year and a half and it’s falling apart I’d never recommend the Palomino brand to anyone. Y’all’s seems to be holding up better then ours.. We like our Ram for the truck bed camper 😁😁. We have Screws popping out all over…
Ours is holding up fine. It does take a beating going down the road
Have them check the fuel pump, I had a recall on my truck because of bad pumps.
The CP4 is usually an issue for metal in your fuel system, but it would show up after the regular fuel filter because the regular fuel filter would keep it from circulating into the fuel system at the injector pump. Metal trouble usually starts at the pump strainer when this pump begins a catastrophic event and wipes out all of the injectors. If they won't let you talk to a mechanic, report it to a Ford tech rep. There is no other pump that will fit in the engine bay if you have the Scorpion diesel engine. I wouldn't drive it at all until you speak to other Ford mechanics around the area, by phone or other. Good luck from a Ram 3500 Cummins diesel owner--Ford diesel's sound like sewing machines.
The CP4 on Ford diesel trucks has been a problem in the past. The filter after fuel pump I believe was added to the newer model trucks This was done to contain the metal from getting to the rest of your fuel system. A CP4 pump if needed would cost a quarter of quoted price. I believe that you have already taken care of your problem.
A sewing machine sounds better than a noisy Cummins........not sure if that is what you meant. I much prefer my 2020 duramax. The stock cummins is was too slow in traffic and I hate the noise plus am not a dodge ram fan. I also passed on buying a used chevy from the teens because of the CP4 and lower power. The L5P and 10 speed has been a dream and the Chevy rides quite nice, which is a must with my body, but different strokes for different folks.
In reference to your dad's comment, I work at a Ram dealership, ram diesel trucks come in regularly with reduced power issues. It's common with all diesels.
Thank you for saying this. Much appreciated.
I love how these dealerships want your money to buy the very over priced vehicles but then drag their feet when they need to be repaired. It really makes me ashamed of people in this world.
You think dealerships want to say no to work? I think the problem is labor or the lack of it.
That is the thing. No one in America wants to work. I saw a stat 8 million males age 23-55 aren't; working and are not even looking for work. Who knows, but if someone wants to work there is endless work out there. @@davidfoster3427
Me too
@@davidfoster3427 thats why were glad we bought a nice dodge ram the best dealer ever plus dodge dealers stands with there best ram
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Thank you so much!
Oh, Crxx! Guy's I wish I was there to Help. I retired from being a tech // Servive Manager in 2020 after 40 years in auto Biz. Scratching my head on this one guys. It would not cost ANYWERE NEAR 8-12k for a new tank, lines, pumps, etc!! Trying to give the dealer the benifit of the doubt here. My problem with dealers now, is, I have seen them ''run off'' the old pro's and hire guys right out of tech school for much less pay...and these poor guys try to diagnos issues , but many times take the ''Shot gun'' course of action and just replace everything because they really dont know what the real issue is. Also ,at a dealership, the service writers and, well everybody is on commision these days, so the more they can sell you.......! Please Please find a private Diesel shop down there where the REAL pro's now work! The dealers will not pay what a GOOD Diesel Tech is worth,the indy's will and yet dealers charge you much more than what a good independant shop will charge in most cases! Blessings guy's!
It does cost 8-12k to replace the entire fuel system when the cp4 pump fails
@@johnhahn8464 you are right John, i did not think they had a cp pump..you would think engineers/managment would have learned some lesson's by now about quality and field testing...guess not or they don't care!
We bought a dodge about 4 years ago and it’s the best truck we’ve ever owned
PLEASE READ THIS WARNING, IT WILL HELP YOU.....................
My Dad used to work for the company that sinks the big fuel tanks in the ground at the gas stations, he has told me countless times to NEVER EVER fill up your car/truck or what ever your driving when ever the big gas truck is there filling the tanks under ground. He said if you see them doing that just go to the next gas station or if you can't then wait at least an hour before you fill up your rig {What ever your rig is} The reason this is, is because when they fill up those tanks under ground, it stirs up all the sediment that is in the bottom of those tanks, rust, sand & what ever else falls into those tanks when they hook up to the ground valve to fill the tanks.
Maybe this is what has caused you to have your problems, do you fill up when you see the big Gas Tankers in the station filling up the under ground tanks? So once you get your truck fixed remember what I've told you & hopefully you'll read this note...
Dad used to say if you want to have to replace your engine then go ahead & fill up when you see the Gas Tankers filling up the big tanks under ground & you'll have all kinds of problems. I hope this info will help you going forward....
My husband was a mechanic and he said the same thing, do not go to the gas station if a tanker is filling up a gas stations underground holding tanks!
Well that is interesting and I will remember it. Thanks for the tip. I guess one problem is I wouldn’t know if a tanker truck had just been there to know to wait a while but nonetheless I will avoid stations with a tanker filling it.
@@13Voodoobilly69 Wise actions will save you TONS of $$ down the road...
My dad was a mechanic and always said the same thing. Never get gas when the fuel trucks are there.
good tip!
If it turns out to be a disaster, I'd run to a Ford dealership and trade it in while its still running fine with no codes. You might take a hit on the trade but it sure beats spending 10k on a fuel system.
One piece of advice I can give is whenever you go to get a second or third opinion(diagnosis) NEVER tell the 2nd or 3rd shop that they are the 2nd or 3rd shop, go in as if they are the 1st
If they know they are the 2nd or 3rd shop they will either say things don't need replaced when they really do JUST so they can underbid the previous diagnosis, OR they will say yes that all needs replaced BUT ALSO this this and this, not EVERY shop will but a majority would
Thats great advice. Also purchase fuel from popular brands so fuel is turned over often and pumps are newer.Best wishes
I’m thinking that when you go to a dealership for an estimate they may enter it into a database that other dealerships will also be able to access along with Ford customer service.
I agree 100%. I hate to say this but it’s hard to find honest shops anymore. Not just mechanics but all trades now. I’ve been an HVAC tech for 24 years now and I was about to walk away from the industry as I was convinced every company had become a commission based company and that causes good techs to become dishonest. I moved out of the big city and up in to a small town with a company that’s had the best reputation I’ve ever seen plus parts great wages and benefits and were hourly. Wish you all luck and take this man’s advice.
i have a 1996 4wd f250 crew cab 349000 miles, change oil every 6k, relube axles every50k, original water pump, oil pump antifreeze, starter and radiator and transmission. REplaced brakes a few times, and tires, and fan belts, alternator and ac compressor. Never had any injection work, i replace alllll filters at 6k miles,,,7.3 liter international engine,,,,,,smiling here,,,20mpg,,15 if pulling 30ft 6500lb gooseneck dual tandem with caterpillar D4 dozer on board,,,,,
Good luck on your truck I hope its something simple. My husband is a mechanic so this kind of thing doesn't happen to us. We have Toyota's and Chevys but that's what we prefer. If you like Ford it's your liking, because Chevys do that too.
I agree with Kellie, the whole thing at the Ford dealer sounds suspicious. Wishing you all the best and hopefully it turns out to be a less expensive fix.
Truly, rusted metal shaving in the fuel? Not buying it for nothing.
Maybe that’s why it was so easy to get an appointment there at the dealership while the other dealerships were weeks out.
@@kevingok a valid point
@@standingmannequin7911can be true. happened to my brothers Duramax. The CP4 injector pump started to disintegrate. Had metal shaves in the filter and lines. He had to replace the whole fuel system from the cp4 ,injectors to the fuel tank. Look up CP4 failures and you'll see. Cp4 are made for the European market where the diesel has way more lubricant than American diesel.
@@HoustonAstros1111 Very interesting, thx for sharing that info.
I had a fellow coworker. That had the same problem ( the jeep) the problem came and went. Disconnected the battery for the last 3 years that they owned the jeep
I’m sure by the time we see this vlog, you have the answer about the truck. I sure hope it’s nothing! I’m SO GLAD you got a second opinion! I’m on pins and needles now wondering what the answer was 😳 Love yall 💜
Me too!!! I love my Chevy, but even the Chevy’s aren’t what they used to be. Grrrr.
Yup, friend of mine was told the same thing on his ford truck. 16k to fix his
When I remove my camper I always lower it down and rest it on wood pallets covered with a sheet of plywood or wafer board. I don't enter the camper until I do, too much stress on the jacks. Keeps it from wobbling. Also I stay away from dealership repairs. I have a diesel mechanic for my F350, and another shop that does all my other repairs. Both came highly recommended and I have NEVER had a problem with either. Several times when I have had a problem and I call the other shop for an apointment they will ask what is it doing and they have told me to try something first and it has taken care of the problem. They are very busy and don't need my buisness that bad for something simple. We are on a first name basis. Good luck on solving your issue, I also worry too much. It pays to have a good mechanic and relationship.
Well, might be a little late to tell you this suggestion, but, when your traveling down the road and this happens, have you tried shutting the ignition off, and turning the truck back on ? Worked for me. Didn't actually fix the problem, it still happens on long trips. Mine only does it when I'm in cruise control mode for long periods. Hopefully your water system doesn't freeze in the camper, can cause problems.
Ok, that replacement of the entire fuel system is called shotgunning. If its metal filings related, that would probably have to come from the fuel pump. A lot of modern trucks have a fuel pump in the gas tank because they had a lot of trouble with inadequate fuel pumps blowing up the turbo pumps in trucks. Mine had an external fuel pump and I replaced it with a FASS fuel pump way down by the tank. People were losing high pressure turbo pumps like crazy and I'm the only one in my neighborhood that didn't lose that 4000 dollar pump. Fuel pump, thats my guess.
Hmmm, so that dealer could fit you in right away, while others had waitlists weeks long. That sounds mighty suspicious, like they have a bad reputation and need to start making money. Policy of not speaking directly to the mechanics is not uncommon in big places though. If theres metal in your filter, the filter works. It doesn't mean the whole system needs to be replaces, unless that metal comes from the high pressure fuel pump (if its a common rail diesel) But if that was the case you would have all kinds of pressure warnings.
It's the high pressure pump the cp4. It's very common unfortunately. The fuel filters are before the cp4
Got to to love Ford dealerships. Stuff like going in for an appointment for a recall for a transmission software update, sitting there 2.5 hours to watch the guy spend 10 minutes doing the update. Paying for them to do a tip to tail inspection on a used 2020 "Gold Certified" F-350 bought from the Ford dealer in Nampa, ID who doesn't actually inspect the trucks prior to providing Gold Certification, with the instructions to fix anything they found, getting the truck back and the change oil light is on. Or fun things like different dealerships having different ideas of what is covered under warranty. Just a few of the reasons why someone else owns my 2022 and 2020 Ford F-350's now.
If they are referring to the CP4 pump, they are probably right. My brother's Duramax had the same problem. Had to replace all the injectors and the injectors pump (cp4) Best thing to do is the CP3 conversion. Dont go back with a cp4 but if you do dont go with out a disaster prevention kit and keep fuel additives in each fuel up.
What year duramax I have 2017 I freakin love that ruck
Oh my goodness, I am hoping and praying that your next video will bring good news❤❤
When I hear metal shavings in the fuel system on a Ford diesel my first my first thought is CP4 high-pressure fuel pump failure. If that's the case then the dealer price of 12K is close to normal for a dealer, but a local shop may be able to do it for less and that is where I would go regardless. The reason the CP4 failure is so costly is that have to replace the fuel injectors, fuel rails, fuel pump, fuel lines, tank and filters, and housing because the shavings can be in all of these parts and it's hard to guarantee they can get all of it out. The reason the shavings are in all these parts is that the fuel pump creates more flow and pressure than the engine needs and there is a relief valve that sends that unneeded fuel back to the tank along with any shavings. The CP4 fuel pumps have been doing this for over 10 years in Ford and Ram started using them I think in 2019 on the Cummings. Then CP4 problem started showing up in RAM and they announced a recall to replace the CP4 with a CP3 however, Ford just kept blaming owners for using dirty diesel. But one can't blame Ford for not issuing a recall, RAM only had to recall 250K trucks, can you imagine the cost of having to recall several years' worth of trucks. RAM may also have an additional incentive because, with some of their CP4 failures the fuel pump has seized and broken the CAM gear connection and when that happens there is a good possibility it will also need a new engine. I enjoy your videos and I wish you the best of luck!.
Good luck getting your truck fixed
May be a reason that the dealer you went to had immediate availability of an appointment. In hind-sight, might want to see how the reviews of the dealer look. May reinforce the second opinion. I don't rely on dealerships any longer. Much rather depend on a reputable mechanic with positive feedback from prior customers.
Could have had metal shaving in the fuel filter when you installed it. I've seen that in new oil filters. More than one, inspect filters before installing them.
If you're wanting to keep the truck in running condition I would change out the cp4 injector pump with the aftermarket replacement. Also install the fuel protection filter system in case the pump explodes it keeps the shrapnel from the injectors and complete fuel system.
That won’t keep it safe. If the pump fails forces small metal particles through the entire system.
@@a4029849110Try actually reading his comment. Adding a real filter setup, absolutely will provide protection!
They also separate water better and eliminate air from the fuel system.
That pump is on Ram and Ford diesels of the last few yrs. Ram's replacing them free if they blow. My neighbor's died and the Ford dealership had it for a month waiting on parts. The aftermarket one looks like the answer. Extra filtration is mandatory. I've got three filters on my old 2007 Ram 5.9.
Should have listened to our Dad ..... I have 2010 Dodge I replaced the brakes, once a new battery after 11 years, regular oil changes and one rear wheel speed sensor wire . 5.7 gas engine . We haul a 26 foot 7000 lb trailer from Ontario to Florida every year . They call them stealerships for a reason.
If the truck had metal shavings throughout the fuel system it wouldn’t run the highway totally normal. All BS. Change the fuel filters every 15K and add a good fuel additive to lubricant the pump and you’re good to go.
The bosch pumps will still fail
Kelly and Cody don’t worry about the ford hater’s. I’ve had mine since 2005 best truck ever and I’ve heard bad things about dodge and Chevy.good luck hopefully 🤞 it won’t be that bad
All trucks with the CP4 can have this problem.
Modern diesels are garbage. I would trade it.
@@benjaminhale1454untrue
@@BarryandKaren💯%
I ended up in a revolving door auto overhaul. A bad dealership was replacing everything they could convince me I needed. I reported my concerns to the Southern California dealer association. I then called the western US corporate office and reported them and then called the eastern us corporate office. I wasn’t the only customer to do this and less that a year later the dealership lost their license and closed their door.
Do you know what kind of fuel pump that truck has? I believe there is a pump (CP4 I Believe) that has a documented history of failing and throwing shavings through the fuel system. If its not replaced it will trash the engine. I hope this isn't the case. Good Luck!
It does have the CP4 and we are aware of the malfunction
Unfortunately this sounds like the cp4 failure
Crawling around under that camper with only the four extended legs supporting it was Crazy! Things could have gotten ugly in a hurry !!
I was thinking the same thing.
They are designed to be left in the that condition and are left in that condition on the lots.
Me too. You need more support under there!!!!
You need safer support before crawling under that!
I am a nervous nelly and that was the first thing to come to my mind, but was at a loss for any other way,
And check online to see if their are any recalls on your truck ..
You need to upgrade the injection pump to CP3 change over by S. N. S diesel
The best to you…I went thru a fuel system on my 2011 f350. When mine went it went fast so be careful. There are some class action lawsuits kicking around you could look into since this is a common problem.
Did your CP4 blow out? Sounds like it. Those Bosch units are known to do this, that's why RAM rolled back to CP3 and GM switched to Denso. They also make kits you can install so that if it happens it catches all the injection pump parts before they nuke your entire fuel system again.
Yes. Install the s&s diesel kit
The computer in your electrical system. We'll always drain your battery if you're not driving it. At least every 3 days. My truck does the same thing. If I leave it set for a week.
Cody & Kellie, I hope things go your way. Everything can be fixed, although there are a lot of opinions on how to do it. Most dealers nowadays don't fix things, they just replace them. Just an FYI.... I owned a 2008 Ford F250 that I put 310,000 miles on, before trading it for a new one. I think my wife was more upset than me about trading in the old truck. Everything on it worked, no rattles, still tight, pulled our toy hauler trailer all over the place.... kind of hated to give it up, especially when I saw it driving down the road 1 1/2 years later still in great shape. Best of everything and getting back on the road safely.
I haven't been a mechanic in over a decade so working on all these new computer systems would drive me insane. It used to be simple to diagnose a vehicle, if it didn't start - check the battery, if it cranks but doesn't turn over check fuel & spark etc etc but nowadays there's a dozen things you need to check.
As far as a F150 losing power at high speeds going uphill to me it sounds like the added weight of a camper plus the terrible aerodynamics of a giant wind catcher are bogging the truck down. The engine simply can't breathe, and if it can't get enough air it'll lose power until it eventually dies. The faster you go the more wind resistance the harder the engine will struggle to breathe, add to that going uphill which places the engine under heavy load and you are basically putting a wet towel over your mouth while trying to run uphill with a giant cargo sack on your back.
Fuel pump might not be able to provide enough fuel under load either causing the engine to lean out at which point the cpu will go into protection mode and keep you from blowing the motor.
It's also very possible you could have clogged cats that are keeping it from breathing properly. Heard those are an issue on some trucks.
I don't remember the code they said it threw up but I'd see if the local autozone will lend you a sun diag tool. I don't think they even loan tools out anymore but it's with a shot. I sold mine when I changed careers but those babies could actively read engine sensors. You'd be able to see exactly what's wrong and with an SD card you can record the sensor data to look at later so you drive the truck up a hill to cause the problem then check the sensor data when you get home.
Anyways hope y'all get it figured out
Sorry for this bummer situation , something sounds shady , take care , hope you get figured out soon , especially the holidays ,
I feel your pain I’ve got a 2013 ford 350 diesel king ranch spun a bearing ( 160,000 ) long story short crate motor 14,000 labor 5000 ok fine get it back a day later automatic transmission goes out 7000 $ 26,000 Crazy prices for repairs o yeah 4 months waiting Never buy another diesel motor pick up I’ve owned 6 other pick up with gas motors with no near the problems my diesel have experienced
I would avoid using an impact on wood screws. The regular drill was fine. An impact will very quickly strip the holes without any warning. And a common problem with truck campers is the wood getting soft even on newer ones you’d be surprised
Wood? Try cardboard.
I purposefully use an impact driver to screw in wood screws to avoid camming out the screw. It makes the job a lot easier, too.
@@K9River That is the correct answer. A drill is for drilling.
Only way to tighten those wood screws is BY HAND. You can tell when thy are going to strip out in the wood.Very easy to strip out with an impact.@@lefttea
This may be a bit off topic but I been waiting for a video close to what I want to warn about, especially seniors. I bought a new Chevrolet, the dealer added without my knowledge or consent an extended warranty,4200 and gap insurance 1200. Was revealed after I signed. Monthly payment,920 dollars. Parked it on their lot 4 months later. They are calling it a repossession,I call it a surrender. They are still trying to collect. Good luck.
Hope you get resolution soon and it’s not a $12K resolution. Vehicle issues are sooooo annoying (and expensive). Best of luck with it.
CP4 which are made by Bosch all have issues . I just replaced one myself. you need to find a independent diesel shop that does them all the time. They are usually a 1 day job . I know there is a shop in terrel Texas that does Fords and its a quarter of what the dealership costs.
Had a similar thing happen to my 2015 F250. They call it “limp mode” which is a mode that’s supposed to save your engine in case of some failure. After a restart mine was fine. No error codes at all. Haven’t had the problem since. Sometimes it’s the mass air flow sensor that fails and causes it. Hoping you get back on the road with minimal expense!!
Did you check your fuel pump that might be an issue, it is common in a Ford. It is not pumping gule fast enough for highway speed
Shavings in the fuel filter is a known issue with the CP4 fuel pump. A disaster prevention kit should have been installed to catch the shavings before they contaminated the entire fuel system.
Diesels have always been expensive to repair and the newer the vehicle, the more expensive and more often it will need repairs. You just have to budget for this or trade for a gas powered truck. Good luck!
I used to run diesels exclusively. For my personal use I’ve gone back to gas. There is nothing that I do that requires the power level of a modern diesel. We haul around an Arctic Fox on a Ford F350 Dually. It’s gas. Yeah, it revs a little more, gets 9-10 mpg with the camper on, where the diesel got 12. But we don’t have any of those expensive diesel problems to deal with. And before anyone goes and jumps on the “it’s a ford, by what ever else brand”, they all have issues, and expensive ones at that. Unless it’s for a business; where the truck makes money for you, it’s not really worth while. I can buy a lot of Gas for 8-12k. Hopefully, it isn’t the fuel system. Best of luck!!
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This----exactly right
Good vibes hopefully everything goes well God bless you guys
Blue Gorilla Garage is awesome. McLarty quoted me $500 to replace some tubing....Blue Gorilla did same job for 1/5th the price ford dealership quoted! Good luck....
My Ford had a bad fuel pump in the fuel tank.
It’s a CP4 injection pump nightmare. RAM put CP4s in their 2019 and 2020s and recalled all of them to replace them with CP3s.
So Ram have/had the CP4 pumps and recalled and replaced them and Ford and GM has them and they have not recalled them?
I had a bad ground battery cable on an oldsmobile station wagon that kept draining my battery one time.
Those Bosch fuel pumps grenade internally from what I heard. It sends shrapnel through the entire fuel system. It goes through the lines to the fuel tank. OMG. This is becoming more common on late model diesels unfortunately.
New subscriber here,first video ive seen but you guys are definitely a bresth of fresh air
My wife and I keep checking RUclips hoping everything is working out for you guys on y'all's truck I hate vehicle issues it really sucks 😞
😂😂 I have a Dodge Dooley. I was just about to say that when you were talking about all the problems that you were having and you guys said it very funny.❤
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The fuel pump on those fords are junk. They will send metal pieces through fuel system and the you have big problems. Like 12000 dollars problems
This is quite a common thing for Ford. Usually the fuel pump goes completely out and that’s what puts metal shavings in your filter and they also go through your high pressure fuel rail. That Bosch pump is a huge failure spot for most diesels on the road. Cummins even recommends adding diesel kleen to every tank of fuel so the pump stays lubricated and can prevent this from happening. Or Fors could just be trying to rip you off which they’re also known to do. Best of luck.
One of the big issues with newer diesels
Definitely fuel pump can be cause by low octane fuel and cheap gas
Replace the whole fuel system? That’s crazy, why not just replace the defective part in the fuel system. Sounds like a scam to me
I watch your videos all the time and have a Lance 650/F150 I travel all summer with. Not sure if your Ford has this, but I had a similar problem with the Fuel Pump Driver Module ($32) located above my spare tire that rusted out from the salty roads up north. The placement against the frame rail made it prone to bad road conditions. It was not the fuel pump and not the pressure switch. 2nd/3rd opinions, RUclips, and Google are sooo much cheaper than trusting one mechanic.
Hey guys, I have a 2017 F350 SD… I was terrified of the CP4 fuel pump failing, resulting in metal in the fuel system, and the $12K repair. I was ready to do thousands in fuel system mods for filters, bypass so if the CP4 failed the metal does not recirculate to the fuel system, etc. etc. Then I got an idea and went on Expedition Portal, on the Full Size US Truck forum, and asked about what people who use their trucks MUCH harder than I use mine do to protect the fuel system.
The general response was add a very high quality diesel fuel additive at every fill up to lubricate the CP4 pump, and do the OEM fuel service (fuel filter, and 2 water separators) at 1/2 the OEM interval (5K miles vs 10K miles - if memory serves).
Some guys added an additional frame mounted filter… but most folks said the CP4 is in use in many, many platforms for a reason - it’s a good pump.
Hopefully you don’t have the big fuel system repair. Scary. Good luck.
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That diesel conditioner, Optilube, is super pricey at $65 a jug and needs to be added every few fill ups. And that's no guarantee that your pump won't fail. Anything mechanical will eventually fail. I just went ahead and retrofitted my Chevy Silverado diesel with the CP3 pump. It was pricey but I don't have to worry about my cp4 failing. There is also a class action lawsuit for Chevy right now for that cp4 pump failure. Hoping to get some $$ back. These truck manufacturers are evil. I have dropped so much money on repairs for my Ford F250 and Chevy diesels.
The best and only fix is the s&s diesel kit period. Look it up and you'll never look back unless you don't need a diesel then get the 7.3
Waiting for update.. Saying a Prayer
Fingers crossed
Saw you 2 on Shawn James podcast! You were awesome! I've been following him since he laid down the first log of his first cabin. Good luck with the truck! Praying for you!😊😊😊
I was a Dealer mechanic and I would abuse the warranty department but I always was fair and honest with the paying customer. I made good money as a mechanic but the floor fell out on that here locally... Nearly a decade ago though... It sounds like they dont know what is wrong so they are swinging for the fence, throwing "stuff" at a wall and hoping something sticks...
Great video Cody and Kellie
Dealerships are always going to charge you WAY more than other shops. No way a new fuel system costs $12000.
Doesn’t matter what you buy eventually, you’re gonna have problems it’s just a matter of finding the right mechanic to fix it at the right price
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And that is very hard to do. & if you have money to burn on replacing a new engine go for it. We're disabled & only make $1,648.00 a month to live on Yes you read it right $1,648.00 a month & its very hard to make ends meet so any helpfull tips that will save us extra $$ is always a Blessing. & the way the Government is set up we're not allowed to have a savings account or they cut off our health Ins. & our Food Stamps so if you want to fill your tak when a Tanker is there be my guest, my family will pass by & save the extra stress of trying to find $$ for either a new car or to replace the engine & then trying to find an HONEST CHEAP car repair shop....LOL...LOL.... very few & far between almost impossible to do. Cody & Kellie found that out real quick didn't they?
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I would be nervous working under the camper. I would have blocking because I'm such a nervous nelly.
Always get a second opinion cause that's really odd if you just changed the filter! I would of wanted to see the shavings ! Other place sounds like a scam especially if they won't let you talk to the mechanic! Keep your heads high friends ! Definitely call the dealer and ask if they have had anything like this happen cause technically there's nothing except the fuel pump that could do that and it don't cost no $12.000 to fix that .Talks tomorrow! ❤ oh hey so it was the dealership ,sorry , I'd call corporate , best thing to have is a honest friendship with a good mechanic that can be trusted
My mom had Ford problem's and different shops took advantage of her because she didn't know .. I wish I was there... It's hard to find a good shop that you can trust to fix your vehicle... If you ever take your vehicle to a shop then you take it to another place for a second opinion don't tell them you had it at a shop before you took it there just so you can see if they say the same thing or way different
Usually does that if the mass air flow sensor or the throttle position sensor are bad I think Cody actually changed the throttle position sensor Dodge have great motors no doubt but they have way more wiring issues cause of the gauge they use in no way should there be metal shavings in the fuel filter if there is some one put it in your tank you could change the tank and the pump your self
I believe they have a Ford F-350.
Doesn't matter it's the cp4 high pressure fuel pump failure that send metal shavings throughout the fuel system. Google it and you'll see
Its your CP4 fuel pump. They are junk. Ram and Gm went back to the CP3 fuel pump
Watch out for the Boggy Creek Monster!
Not sure what they find but I was looking to buy a new diesel in 2021 and normally drive GM products but went to the local Ford dealer to order a F350 diesel. I told my neighbor who drives a Ford F250 and he cautioned me about a Bosch fuel injection pump. After research it appears that for several years all three bif truck manufacturers were using this pump and the trucks were having shavings. As I remember it had to do with the pumps manufactured overseas where they didn't use ultra low sulpher diesel fuel. I guess the supper acts as a lubricant and in the the U.S. not enough lubricant causes the metal shavings. GM stopped using that pump in 2017 but not sure about Ford and Dodge.
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It really doesn't matter what make of the vehicle now of days they all give problems.
They jus don't make them like they used to miss the good old days...
I always take my truck 9:24 camper off the truck. And I do it alone! Do not get under the truck camper without extra supports! Watching you crawl underneath it jacked up that high without supports, made me cringe!
Shrapnel in the fuel line probably coming from a failing CP4 fuel pump, ouch! Ford is the only one still running those fuel pumps to my knowledge. Father-in-law was right, recommending a Ram. Best of luck! Great channel BTW...
New here, just found your channel. Hope all goes well with the truck!
Thanks and welcome
Remember a while back I commented and said your maintenance schedule was not good? Fuel filters every 10k and you avoid this problem. P0093 is low pressure fuel system code. Replace the low pressure pump, clean the tank, flush the lines and replace the high pressure pump and left hand fuel rail. No need to replace the injectors unless it’s DEF contamination or lots of metal. All that stuff you changed out was not the problem. Lots of times the metal in the fuel is very hard to see and you need a flashlight to really see it.
I am used to old school non power hand tools. I think I would hand torque screws to avoid stripping them .