I guess I’m part of the sprint race problem for F1. I’m with you, I’m not a huge fan of the sprint race. It’s a bit of a gimmick. That being said, I’ve watched every one of them and they’re funner to watch than a free practice session. So, I guess I’m voting with my feet, so-to-speak. Always appreciate your perspective! Thanks!
One of the things that always impresses me about Max is he is on it from the first lap out in practice. He never seems to do any easing in. As someone who supports Lewis and Charles over Max, it always worries me
Most likely this is the case because his dad drilled this into him from junior karting....at least it was discussed in one of the recent documentaries. His dad had him train day in and day out, especially in rain to always immediately to be on it. So by now it just part of his DNA.
Indeed. Hamilton used to be like that at the start of his career but seemed to wain over the years. Be interesting to see how long Max keeps this intensity.
Brilliant analysis as ever Peter, always look forward to hearing what you have to say. I agree on the Mercedes Drivers, they aren't the sort to throw it in the wall usually. I also enjoy 'The Race' podcast, would be great to hear you on it sometime
Clearly they don't like the high winds either like we seen from max and Carlos in Spain rear end snaps from high winds which had picked up significantly during q3.
Correction to what Peter said, Johnny Herbert showed a replay where Russell hit the inner kerb and the low ride destabilized the car and therefore he lost grip. That was different from Hamilton where the back end just gave up either from Hamilton taking the wrong line given his speed or from a gust of wind.
I agree with you guys on the specifics....but the car is still more susceptible to this because it has the setup it has. Which makes it less stable mid-corner.
Yeah thats what I commented too. I overheard Russell when he walked back to the pits and he said to his pitcrew that he took too much speed into 10. Peter is looking too much into it just because they have the same car.
@@marlmyster I didn't say "they" I said Russell hit the kerb. I know people don't like to believe what the video clearly shows, but I'm not one of those people. Russell hit the inside kerb and the car became destabilized.
Rear wing setup? It seems to have no downforce. Consequently both drivers had to push and lost it!? Or does it has something to do with the new floor and it’s effect on the airflow over the body work and it might perhaps the much needed downforce through the B wing!?
I agree he is good and limiting mistakes and damage pays dividends but the merc has been so much faster he could get away without pushing past its limits trying to keep up. This is the same thing that got seb at ferrari. Those years they had a decent car but it had to be on the absolute limits where as the merc didn't.
@@supmikpaddleboarding5871 Peter was specifically saying " two of best drivers" - to me taht phrase, in that context means, that the two are the best of all F1 drivers.
I think George is on par with Max, Charles, and Lando, and I think they're all as good as Lewis, or will be once they reach his level of experience. I'm saying this as a Lewis fan. Any one of them could be a world champion with the right car and a bit of luck (Max has the right car, for now).
Hi Peter, thanks for your videos - I think they add a lot to our F1 ‘experience’. I was lucky enough to meet you in Hobart, Tasmania several years back and we had a small group dinner together - great memories for me. You mention in this video that you suspect the similar nature of the Merc spins in Quali point to a compromised ride height… too high. I wonder whether it’s actually the opposite… too low? To me it makes more sense that the cars simply ran out of clearance and bottom heavily mid corner. One thing for sure if the chassis/floor ends up grounded, then whatever load is instantaneously transferred into the chassis from that ‘grounding’ is EXACTLY matched my an equal ‘unloading’ of the tyres contact patch. If the grounding of the chassis/floor is towards the rear (like it looks all the time) then the load reduction on the tyres would be be equally biased to the rear wheels…. Exacerbated by the fact this happens mid corner, when the car is loaded left (GR) or right (LH) then the load reduction on the contact patch would be biased that side as well….. all of this leading to the most loaded tyre at the rear, being instantaneously ‘unloaded’ …. And we see the results of that. My weight is on ‘too low’ not ‘too high’. I look forward to one day (maybe in my dreams) catching up again to debate this….. Rod
Ferrari was the same, I don't think any of them improved the first 2 sectors and then improved the 3rd. It was supposedly because they sat in the pit lane to que up so they all lost some tire temps and they didn't come alive until the end of the laps.
That’s what happens when you run more rake , can become unstable in the high speed . I remember moments in 2018/19 where max had the same issue into turn 6 and 7 in practice. Apart from those incidents the Mercedes balance looked very good.
@@Cos_Why_Not one of the best, but we'll never know who actually is the best because its 98% in the car. It's a shame Alonso doesn't have a good car, I think he's the best on the grid.
@@zepho100 That's funny because I would rate Alonso as 2nd or 3rd best. Still, I think Max is better. I think he's been the best for a good 2-3 years now. Alonso is an all-time great though!
I feel like Martin Brundle's analysis of George's crash was spot on. The front end suddenly gained a lot of grip when hitting the point where the camber of the track changed, causing the lateral forces to overload the rear grip. Lewis, on the other hand, seemed to feel like he had more oversteer than was really the case (I'm imagining most likely a gust of wind), causing him to massively overcorrect with his countersteering, sending himself off track.
Wouldn't read that much into the two crashes myself. Driver error/wind gust/car that could maybe fight for pole so pushed too hard. An encouraging performance form Merc IMO, they'll get the cars fixed easy and race forwards
I like your perspective and positivity✨️ I know they'll both be pushing tomorrow, so hopefully it will be a good sprint. Also, I heard Perez was penalized and will be starting p13.
Max wins on Sunday unless he has some issues with the car, a crash or Red Bull makes a strategic error. He sounds more confident about the Red Bull's race pace than usual.
I'm not so sure that they were increasing the ride height in the rear at all. In fact, it looks to me that they have never run the car lower. The winds were gusty and they also seemed to be changing directions often. I'm not sure what the cause was, but I don't believe it was ride height related at all. I remember seeing some slow motion video during the coverage, and the car was extremely low to the ground. Besides the wind, they may have also been suffering from getting the tires into the right window. That seems to be more a problem with their car now, where they suffer from getting the tires into the right window.
Thank you Peter. From what i saw with George, he was bouncing into the corner and bottomed out on the curb which threw him out/off. Been a while since both Mercs crashed out of something (race or FP/quali). Seemed surreal but the fans thoroughly enjoyed it. Natalie Pinkham and Toto didn't as they condoned it during the post Q interview. I dont remember them calling out the British fans for doing the same when Max crashed at 51Gs then hospitalised.
The car has failed him a few times, but Max has been spectacular this season. Better than last year. Barring a combination of RB car problems and Ferrari solving their problems, Max is going to cruise to a well-deserved world championship.
@@jeffsteyn7174 dude, do you honestly believe checo is going to hold off Max? I like Checo too, but come on. You give Max half the race to catch you & it's inevitable. It was to save the cars and to make sure they don't crash
@@jeffsteyn7174 Max when having a fast car had actually ALWAYS competition in Mercedes or Ferrari. While Hamilton didn't, he actually had a dominant car for years without competition except.his teammate. Not Hamilton's fault though and anybody with half brains knows Hamilton is one of the best drivers if not the best.
I’ll say it because no one else will: the very intricate Technical regulations imposed over recent years have taken the focus away from racing and in to car construction. Car construction is not a sport.
@@whosehandle I appreciate the view that constant repetition and dominance will eventually kill any sport and Ross would have been aware of that following the “Golden years” of Ferrari F1 back in his time with Michael Schumacher….
I thought it looked like wind for Lewis. Also at no point did Russell look like he was in contention for the top 3. He was slower than his previous time, .5 down through 2 sectors, probably .7-.8 down when he crashed.
There was a cool picture on Reddit showing the floors of the top three. It highlighted the delineation of the two halves for RedBull and Ferrari and Mercedes one piece designs. Makes sense that having two pieces would allow the rear portion to flex when the rear squats down. I think it will definitely affect how low they can go while still preventing excessive porpoising and/or plank wear.
F1 teams are not in the habit of investing time and effort into as complex an aero/suspension problem as the flexible plank for no reason. It will absolutely have an impact the question is how much.
They will not simply wave Lewis past as in the sprint in Brazil, now there are points to be earned, so he can simply go and fight for positions this time
Missing out one very important point which is that Ferrari’s runs were compromised by the second red flag and the new tyres having to go back in the blankets…
Wasn't it great to see the Dutch fans reply to the Silverstone crowd's booing from last weekend. Even better to see the F1 commentary team have an English whine about it too. If they are so keen on removing this type of crowd behavior (as they stated in the live post Q3 report), then they should have had the Journalistic fortitude to call it out at the British GP. Well done RB & Max and Well Done HAAS Again. 2 in the top 10 :)
I'm Dutch and I preffered if they hadn't. Sure Lewis is the one that fueled the fire with his comment about Copse corner and his notion that the English fans might have a grudge because of last season, but I'dd rather the Dutch fans be the bigger men.
Peter is a very learned obviously and knows his stuff but idk, i sometimes feel that he really dont put respect to seb that seb deserves. The package seb has, he defo cant put it in top spots. But he isnt making mistakes like he used to do couple years back. He is coming back to form imo.
I used to fall for the same trap of trying to put down seb but honestly through the years I've learned to put some respect on his name. He is a damn 4 time world champion. Max barely got one.
For everybody sneering that Red Bull, and therefore also Ferrari, is cheating, please consider that the FIA gives a set of rules and parameters the teams have to adhere to when building a car for a given season. There is no such thing as “the spirit of the regulations”. F-1 is full of stories of constructors find new ways to improve their cars that the gurus at the FIA had never considered. Colin Chapman’s use of skirts on the Lotus to Brabham’s Fan Car. Other teams invariably scream “UNFAIR” because they are constantly losing and call for the innovation to be banned. Toto is no exception to this.
If Toto & Merc think RB & Ferrari are cheating they should protest them to the scrutineers....its a simple process & should bring some clarity to the situation rather than the current dose of speculation
Yep, downforce vs topspeed. What I don't understand is why Toto wants stiffer floors. I would imagine that a bit of flex would sick the corners down and closing the airgap. Like in this case, a slight jump opens the gap and reduces downforce. Thanks for sharing your view.
@@henriwolbrink His job is to give his team an advantage. Either be dragging back or moving forward or best is to probably doing both dragging others back and moving forward. It is not that hard to understand.
@@my2cents366well this is a race. So he should work on his own results. And within the same given rules and regulations. And not ask the race committee to slow down the other racers. While forcing them to extra investments. It 8s still called a sport. Not a business.
Looked to me like they pushed too hard what the car can handle, they felt like the car is way better now since the last result and pushed more than before and crashed
I can't understand why Ferrari doesn't follow the same practice program as RB - set up for race first, then tune for qualifying. They keep prioritizing one lap over race pace for some reason...
I think that they both simply pushed too hard. Lewis backed out of 2 previous push laps and his tyres were past their best. George was over doing it into the final corner. That simple.
Also, I would think the A1-Ring is very downforce heavy, and the track elevation continuously changing, and mostly downhill after the first corner, so I imagine a race car with little downforce would be unsettling in and out for most of the track.
And george russell in post qualifying complaining about red bull & ferrari's floors, that they are mis-interpreting the rules. JUST FOCUS ON YOUR DAMN CAR !!! I think mercedes dont have any more ideas how to make their car better, so they are now focussed on bringing other teams down, thats understandable but a SICK move. A 8 time constructor champions shouldnt have to fall to this level to pull down other teams to their level.
I think these sprint races are a great example of a real test session u could have peter...think of the sprint race as a test session what better way than that then to race in real situations...a little experiementing...a short race instead
thanks @peterwindsor for seeing that rear break-n-loose as consistent FAIL issue for both the MERCs, as I felt the same about that. Also your much more "THe GuY" than I am and ya......good call
It was so silent on Lewis’ initial crash, it was like everyone was shocked at what happened. At first glance, I had thought it had been George. From the replay, it looked like the Mercedes was drifting left before Lewis suddenly yanked it hard right. There was a noticeable jolt to the right at this point when he pulled it. What it looked like to me was that he lost the rears, starting to either oversteer or spin, and he tried to steer into it. Unfortunately for him, either he overcorrected or the rears suddenly regained traction, and he just went off. As for George, his looked similar, but he just completely lost it and spun off. George did hit the inside kerbs, but it looked like at that point that his rear had already just started to go off, so it might not have been the kerbs that did him in, unless it was coming off the outside kerbs that broke his grip. Funny thing is, when they were talking about the Merc’s setup during Lewis’s red flag, they said the setup was changed to bring the two cars closer to each other and I just thought “Well they better be careful or they risk George binning it just like Lewis.” Oof. I don’t think I’ve ever had a prediction come true that fast. Checo will be starting P13 for sprint because the marshals neglected to delete his time in Q2. Hopefully this means he’ll be going destroy mode like last week and like in the 2020 Sakhir GP. I was surprised that the qualifying continued after George’s crash. I thought we were going to get a repeat of Monaco. The whole “You didn’t improve? Too bad. Deal with it in the race.” They really wanted to give everyone one last chance. When Max had yellows for section 1 and 2 in the final stint after George’s red, and the Ferrari’s both jumped him, I honestly thought it was all over. He put in a ridiculously good section 3, and equally impressive was that all three drivers achieved their improvements with tires that had since cooled during the double reds. Also a great run for the two Haas. I hope Mick can land some more points.
I have noticed several times with this year's cars that drivers seem to overcorrect, as Lewis did. The back end starts to slide and they apply a lot of opposite lock, more than needed to just hold the slide, and just drive off the track. Not just Mercedes either, though I can't remember names/places now. I don't seem to notice it now (until Lewis just did it), so the other teams may have overcome it, but as you say, the drivers just didn't seem to have good feel for the cars.
Why are you making Brazil ‘21 out to be Lewis skill? He had a rocket ship and passed most cars on the straight. I think half the grid could have done the same thing in that car.
If Merc had got the aero right or either Ferari or RB got their reliability right, this championship might already be over. Merc can get to the end of the race every time but not at the front of the pack and the other two drive away from everyone then the car blows up...
Mercs seems to have changed the constellation of the plank / floor structure. No issues, except when much steering is required in certain types of corners. What was considered as a smart solution, that seemed to execute at circuits like Silverstone, now appears to ask for a critical re-evaluation, to apply the proper fine-tuning modifications. The plank-road surface distance in certain types of corners, may cause other components to become acting in unanticipated fashion like a airplane-wing, or in cricket reverse swing. Toto has to mobilize Houston flight control center inside the engineering department, to straighten out this reversal of the created improved ground effect, due to plank updates that may have reduced porpocing yet introduced an unsmart flaw with regard to other drivability areas..
PW: spot-on analysis, as usual. You're a treasure, man. MB's misfortune may actually be a blessing in disguise for them. They now have a better idea of how high they can ride height.
@@hanskuijsten2380 Yet, Lewis raced Perez, Carlos, and Leclerc, without incident the whole race in silverstone. Guess who wasn’t up front to cause chaos?
The weird thing is the 22s cars rotate very well they need ti put some understeer in them because they rotate really easy...mid corner....not sure if the floor centralizing has that..but they turn mid corner better than 21 cars which pushed mid corner an also were longer the cars are shorter than 21...an are supposed to come down again 23 season....making them turn even better....u also have bigger taller tires...how that factors in...still seaching balance..
The crashes where the mnistake of lewis and Russell them selves. They needed to push and couldn't keep up with Redbull and Ferrari. The english fans must keep their mouth shut. They boo' ed in England and all the english press ignored it. Now they cry all about a bit of sheering!
Cheering after a crash is disgusting,perverted and toxic! Fits Verstappen fans perfectly! On TV we saw that one father with his daughter on his arm cheering and celebrating like Max had won the race! What a great example to his doughther...disgusting shitshow!
Sucks that its 2022, and we could easily exploit ground effects to its full potential by using active suspension / active aero bits, but we are not allowed.
The funny thing is that last night, I thought man, they may not qualify well here because of the nature of the car and Austria has those sweeping corners. Especially the last corner. Well, I did not catch quali but I was not surprised when I read the results. I also understand more or less why Lewis lost in where he did and George lost it on the last corner. I think they will do very well tomorrow. Also, I forgot to mention that I think Max is learning from Lewis once again. We usually do not see him focus on long runs like that. At lease not so early. But I did also think that People are gonna pickup on Lewis strategy fairly quickly because the advantage it gives him over george is massive. He is able to challenge for wins when the team releases an update for bouncing (Spain and Silverstone) and Russell is not. I get his issue at Silverstone so I will not be a pleb and factor that into his performances. But at Spain, he was outclassed in spades.
@@ituber09 sure. Lewis "struggle for the most of quality and free practice in Spain. He finished about a tenth behind George in q3. In Silverstone he was faster but did not look on par with Red Bull and Ferrari. Well he looked to have similar race pace but Ferrari had the edge. In both instances, he ended up challenging for the win and would have done so in Spain if Kevin did not hit him. This is not a coincidence. He learned this ability from Button. The ability to prioritize the race in setup and make up the lost in one lap speed with talent. This is why he was 1 tenth behind Russell in Spain Q3 and miles faster in the race. You prioritize the race and leave enough on the setup to possibly get pole still. He did this with Rosberg A LOT. He used many tricks with Rosberg but he used this particular strategy a lot with him because of the issues with his starts. So even though they were in the same car, their race pace usually was night and day. I can go deeper but I think this is good lol.
@@ltitus8900 thank you! This is a new insight I haven't heard mentioned before. And yeah, please go deeper all you want, love getting into it when it comes to F1!
The idea that Max is learning from Lewis is insane. Regarding Lewis and George. Right now Lewis is a better all round driver. Russell was always known as "mister saturday" (though I think he is also a good racer). Your reasoning is a bit wonky. Lewis doesn't have some clever strategy of sacrificing qualifying for race pace.
I don't know about that. George said that he simply took too much speed into turn 10. Lewis I don't know. So I don't think there is 1 reason why they both crashed.
That was my take, too. George just overcooked it, trying to get into the top rows. But Lewis... have you EVER seen Lewis crash in qualifying? The car just getting all squirrely and totally out of control without an obvious trigger, that seems a lot more like a severe car behavior issue than driver error. Lewis went for YEARS without a DNF, at all. He just doesn't make errors like other drivers. (Max has picked that up from him, too... Max doesn't screw up anymore.)
The rb is designed to be a race winning car with very good qualy prowess. The ferrari is the complete opposite. Leclerc and max are about even on raw pace so its ferrari's one lap pace which makes the difference but come race day, the superior race pace of rb takes over. If russell hadnt crashed and brought the red flags, leclerc (and maybe even sainz) would have outqualified max. The ferraris had already left the track and put a heat cycle on their new tyres. max didnt. Thats why max's tyres were fresher for that last lap.
If karma was a thing,then each member of the 🍊 army which cheered at the incidents today should get hemmoroids by tommorow morning....what a shitshow of a fanbase in f1
Both Mercedes crashes had a similar look, snapping the back end around approaching the apex. That's a place where the car should be relatively settled. I think that speaks to a car which remains very difficult to drive as its behavior is unpredictable.
The Skysports coverage is shameful during Austrian gp qualifying. The Skysport commentators are so bias for British drivers. Classic example they say it was so shameful that the Dutch crowd was cheering when Hamilton crash. Hello they forgot about the cheering of the British crowd last year when Verstappen crash in Silverstone. And this skysports media never said that it was shameful for British crowd and Hamilton celebrating even though Verstappen might be hurt caused by Hamilton. Not hating here just stating the British media bias. Every good little thing that a Brit f1 driver is exaggerated. Lando and Russell are always hyped. While they give tsunoda a bad reputation when every other driver makes mistakes and swears on the radio and gets angry.
I think Peter is reading too much into it. Merc will probably find a set up issue that makes the cars rotate in an unpredictable fashion, when the driver lifts at the limit in the corner. You could hear Lewis lifting, George probably did too as he was transitioning from T9 to 10.
Thank you - finally someone who sees this the same way I do - I really think the British media and Merc are toxic - bit like Boris and the sad state of UK politics x
I cheered my head off, thought it was great, cherry on the cake was Noble Steed George flying off too. Then Mr No-Mikey-No, Otto Wolf, asking for the People to be Educated--hilarious!! I mean, can one be dumber than Otto Wolf???
if the FIA insists on raised ride heights, are we not going to see this happening to other teams... or are we at the point where porpoising is solved now? seems like a major risk to driver safety... more so than lower back pain.
The 2022 regs (2021) continue to cause the sport a massive amount of disruption. I guess the design group that wrote this paper (back in 2020) wish they hadn’t bothered!
Great now we can stop talking about Perez being a contender for the WDC. He wins by misfortunes and not merit. He isn't at the same league as Max. I hope he has another good recovery drive during the Sprint and Sunday. He starts P13 not 4 but I guess this was recorded before the penalty was handed out.
Russel crash is not the same as Lewis. Russel had his car on the curb before corner 10 and it was already losing downforce because of the curb. If you check the video, as soon as Russel started turning into 10 while he was on the curb the car started going around from the back.
What about the influence of the wind? I understand that all along the track the winds constantly changed in both direction and strength. All cars seemed to be influenced by that, but could it be that the Mercedes was even more sensitive to those constantly changing winds?
we've had at least one fairly windy gps this year and it didn't affect them, if that is the case though it's very worrying. the fact that the car is so sensetive it caused 2 crashes is a huge saftey concern.
They displayed the wind chart at some point during qualifying. I think it was 2km/h wind speed. That's barely nothing, not a factor and besides no other driver did mention anyhting about wind either so I think the explanation of Peter regarding why Mercedes drivers are losing the car in those turns is a more valid explanation.
I think Lewis' crash was driver error - it may have been a sudden minor twitch, but looking at the video suggests he may have overcorrected steering directly to the side, into the barrier. If he had not done so he could have got further around the corner.
I guess I’m part of the sprint race problem for F1. I’m with you, I’m not a huge fan of the sprint race. It’s a bit of a gimmick. That being said, I’ve watched every one of them and they’re funner to watch than a free practice session. So, I guess I’m voting with my feet, so-to-speak. Always appreciate your perspective! Thanks!
Absolutely agree with all! Not a huge fan, but i would prefer sprint over practice!
One of the things that always impresses me about Max is he is on it from the first lap out in practice. He never seems to do any easing in. As someone who supports Lewis and Charles over Max, it always worries me
Max is much better under these conditions than any other driver on the grid including Lewis.
Supporting lewis the biggest hypocrite out there, says alot about you
Most likely this is the case because his dad drilled this into him from junior karting....at least it was discussed in one of the recent documentaries. His dad had him train day in and day out, especially in rain to always immediately to be on it. So by now it just part of his DNA.
Max drives more on feel and estimating conditions than building on what he encountered the lap before.
Indeed. Hamilton used to be like that at the start of his career but seemed to wain over the years. Be interesting to see how long Max keeps this intensity.
Max Always delivers
Brilliant analysis as ever Peter, always look forward to hearing what you have to say. I agree on the Mercedes Drivers, they aren't the sort to throw it in the wall usually. I also enjoy 'The Race' podcast, would be great to hear you on it sometime
Clearly they don't like the high winds either like we seen from max and Carlos in Spain rear end snaps from high winds which had picked up significantly during q3.
I feel like this is going to be another amazing weekend!
Mercedes ran less drag to get straight line speed and that killed them when the head winds kicked in
Exactly 💯
Correction to what Peter said, Johnny Herbert showed a replay where Russell hit the inner kerb and the low ride destabilized the car and therefore he lost grip. That was different from Hamilton where the back end just gave up either from Hamilton taking the wrong line given his speed or from a gust of wind.
Yep competly ignored the conditions and what the drivers said and the on-board footage of russell riding those kerbs hard.
I agree with you guys on the specifics....but the car is still more susceptible to this because it has the setup it has. Which makes it less stable mid-corner.
Yeah thats what I commented too. I overheard Russell when he walked back to the pits and he said to his pitcrew that he took too much speed into 10. Peter is looking too much into it just because they have the same car.
They didn't hit any kerb...
They rode the racing line, which everyone else did!
@@marlmyster I didn't say "they" I said Russell hit the kerb. I know people don't like to believe what the video clearly shows, but I'm not one of those people. Russell hit the inside kerb and the car became destabilized.
There is only one designer on the grid with ground effect experience and that is Mr. Newey.
Rory Byrne still works for Ferrari.
Max just makes a 360 and continues
Astute observation, Mercedes fix seems to have made the rear finicky
@@chrisg5101 I don't see how that changes the fact that the rear seems difficult to control. Happy to be corrected though
Rear wing setup? It seems to have no downforce. Consequently both drivers had to push and lost it!?
Or does it has something to do with the new floor and it’s effect on the airflow over the body work and it might perhaps the much needed downforce through the B wing!?
I have to uncheck the bell. The title of this video popped on my screen as I sat down to see the quali replay...
Haven’t seen Lewis bin a car in years. Goes to show how good he actually is tbh. When a guy crashes and the world is genuinely surprised.
Fo sure, Hamilton like any drivers makes small mistakes from time to time. But this kind of.mistakes almost never, he crazy good.
I agree he is good and limiting mistakes and damage pays dividends but the merc has been so much faster he could get away without pushing past its limits trying to keep up. This is the same thing that got seb at ferrari. Those years they had a decent car but it had to be on the absolute limits where as the merc didn't.
@@tbled52 yeah good point same for Max in Red Bull when the car was not up to par.
Peter Windsor is the greatest analyst we have!
"two of the best drivers in the world crashed in Mercedes"!? Really? Lewis can claim that George has long ways to go.
Wouldn't you agree that most F1drivers (beside some paydrivers) are all some of the best racing drivers in the world?
@@supmikpaddleboarding5871 Checo vs Max, Norris vs Ric. There is definitely a difference. Not every driver is equal.
@@supmikpaddleboarding5871 Peter was specifically saying " two of best drivers" - to me taht phrase, in that context means, that the two are the best of all F1 drivers.
I think George is on par with Max, Charles, and Lando, and I think they're all as good as Lewis, or will be once they reach his level of experience. I'm saying this as a Lewis fan. Any one of them could be a world champion with the right car and a bit of luck (Max has the right car, for now).
Hi Peter, thanks for your videos - I think they add a lot to our F1 ‘experience’. I was lucky enough to meet you in Hobart, Tasmania several years back and we had a small group dinner together - great memories for me.
You mention in this video that you suspect the similar nature of the Merc spins in Quali point to a compromised ride height… too high. I wonder whether it’s actually the opposite… too low?
To me it makes more sense that the cars simply ran out of clearance and bottom heavily mid corner. One thing for sure if the chassis/floor ends up grounded, then whatever load is instantaneously transferred into the chassis from that ‘grounding’ is EXACTLY matched my an equal ‘unloading’ of the tyres contact patch. If the grounding of the chassis/floor is towards the rear (like it looks all the time) then the load reduction on the tyres would be be equally biased to the rear wheels…. Exacerbated by the fact this happens mid corner, when the car is loaded left (GR) or right (LH) then the load reduction on the contact patch would be biased that side as well….. all of this leading to the most loaded tyre at the rear, being instantaneously ‘unloaded’ …. And we see the results of that.
My weight is on ‘too low’ not ‘too high’.
I look forward to one day (maybe in my dreams) catching up again to debate this…..
Rod
Max delivers as always ..yellow in first 2 sectors and still got pole ..Looks good for sprint and race as the race pace is usually even better at RB
that was amazing - he really hooked it up for the last sector!
Yep it's called tire management and he's very good at it.
It was rigged.
Ferrari was the same, I don't think any of them improved the first 2 sectors and then improved the 3rd. It was supposedly because they sat in the pit lane to que up so they all lost some tire temps and they didn't come alive until the end of the laps.
@@ajwasp3642 and you’re a clown, but we all have to deal with it right?
That’s what happens when you run more rake , can become unstable in the high speed . I remember moments in 2018/19 where max had the same issue into turn 6 and 7 in practice. Apart from those incidents the Mercedes balance looked very good.
then rb shouldve been out in Q1, they are the only team running rake.
@@peeturpain9379 please explain how you have come to that conclusion.
@@peeturpain9379 I think they ran rake last year. With ground effect they seem to have very little this year 🤘🤘
Max is something else, it's astonishing how he keeps banging out killer laps so consistently, both on Saturday (or Friday in this case) and Sunday
Lewis crashed through lack of skill......he is however a World Champion Virtue Signaler 😀
@@truthseeker8483 Easily the best driver on the grid but alright
@@Cos_Why_Not one of the best, but we'll never know who actually is the best because its 98% in the car. It's a shame Alonso doesn't have a good car, I think he's the best on the grid.
@@zepho100 That's funny because I would rate Alonso as 2nd or 3rd best. Still, I think Max is better. I think he's been the best for a good 2-3 years now. Alonso is an all-time great though!
Red bull run Friday with less fuel than Ferarri and Mercedes so he goes out bangs in a lap straight away
I feel like Martin Brundle's analysis of George's crash was spot on. The front end suddenly gained a lot of grip when hitting the point where the camber of the track changed, causing the lateral forces to overload the rear grip.
Lewis, on the other hand, seemed to feel like he had more oversteer than was really the case (I'm imagining most likely a gust of wind), causing him to massively overcorrect with his countersteering, sending himself off track.
Thanks for quick upload like ALWAYS!
Wouldn't read that much into the two crashes myself. Driver error/wind gust/car that could maybe fight for pole so pushed too hard. An encouraging performance form Merc IMO, they'll get the cars fixed easy and race forwards
Looking at Lewis' car after the crash I wouldn't be surprised if he has some serious gearbox/driveshaft issues.
@@hanskuijsten2380 gearbox can be replaced with no penalties this year
I like your perspective and positivity✨️ I know they'll both be pushing tomorrow, so hopefully it will be a good sprint. Also, I heard Perez was penalized and will be starting p13.
@@kevin-l7r7p but they cost money
I hope the mercs can get into the mix and add for some awesome race strategies come Sunday
Ended up p3 and p4 after all that work... The mechanics need a mega dinner. Awesome drive by the Merc boys
Max wins on Sunday unless he has some issues with the car, a crash or Red Bull makes a strategic error. He sounds more confident about the Red Bull's race pace than usual.
You forgot to say that on Sunday Max will win,if noone else will win...
Max has the Ferrari strategists working for him.
You mean, he will win, unless he doesn't win.
if the rear doesn't snap i have my money on lewis
@@ND9HighlightsComps From the back of the grid?
Peter, thanks for the picture of Mark Donahue, a friend of mine.
I'm not so sure that they were increasing the ride height in the rear at all. In fact, it looks to me that they have never run the car lower. The winds were gusty and they also seemed to be changing directions often. I'm not sure what the cause was, but I don't believe it was ride height related at all. I remember seeing some slow motion video during the coverage, and the car was extremely low to the ground. Besides the wind, they may have also been suffering from getting the tires into the right window. That seems to be more a problem with their car now, where they suffer from getting the tires into the right window.
Thank you Peter. From what i saw with George, he was bouncing into the corner and bottomed out on the curb which threw him out/off. Been a while since both Mercs crashed out of something (race or FP/quali). Seemed surreal but the fans thoroughly enjoyed it. Natalie Pinkham and Toto didn't as they condoned it during the post Q interview. I dont remember them calling out the British fans for doing the same when Max crashed at 51Gs then hospitalised.
Max's consistency since 2020 really, but especially this season, has been insane
The car has failed him a few times, but Max has been spectacular this season. Better than last year. Barring a combination of RB car problems and Ferrari solving their problems, Max is going to cruise to a well-deserved world championship.
Yeah shows how little competition there's in terms of cars. And when your team mate has to give up his position for you.
@@jeffsteyn7174 dude, do you honestly believe checo is going to hold off Max? I like Checo too, but come on. You give Max half the race to catch you & it's inevitable. It was to save the cars and to make sure they don't crash
@@charlesgarcia4660 that dude’s just hella salty
@@jeffsteyn7174 Max when having a fast car had actually ALWAYS competition in Mercedes or Ferrari. While Hamilton didn't, he actually had a dominant car for years without competition except.his teammate. Not Hamilton's fault though and anybody with half brains knows Hamilton is one of the best drivers if not the best.
I’ll say it because no one else will: the very intricate Technical regulations imposed over recent years have taken the focus away from racing and in to car construction. Car construction is not a sport.
You know they really wanted to end Lewis’s dominance.
The floor cut before 2021 season and the eventual 2021 Abhu Dhabi farce makes it obvious to me.
@@whosehandle I appreciate the view that constant repetition and dominance will eventually kill any sport and Ross would have been aware of that following the “Golden years” of Ferrari F1 back in his time with Michael Schumacher….
@@whosehandle what? They let Mercedes run away with it for 8 years lol
This channel is now a staple of my weekends thanks for the great content.
I thought it looked like wind for Lewis. Also at no point did Russell look like he was in contention for the top 3. He was slower than his previous time, .5 down through 2 sectors, probably .7-.8 down when he crashed.
When the AMG's were running,it seems like they are getting quicker
I don’t think this new TD is going to make a bit of difference, much a do about nothing . Good lap by Max the Ferrari is still quicker over 1 lap .
Absolutely what I think to ...thats calls natural talent
There was a cool picture on Reddit showing the floors of the top three. It highlighted the delineation of the two halves for RedBull and Ferrari and Mercedes one piece designs.
Makes sense that having two pieces would allow the rear portion to flex when the rear squats down. I think it will definitely affect how low they can go while still preventing excessive porpoising and/or plank wear.
This whole thing isn’t even about the putter edge of the floor flexing. It’s about the planks.
F1 teams are not in the habit of investing time and effort into as complex an aero/suspension problem as the flexible plank for no reason. It will absolutely have an impact the question is how much.
Yes the one who Quals second is definitely the fastest???!?
They will not simply wave Lewis past as in the sprint in Brazil, now there are points to be earned, so he can simply go and fight for positions this time
Merc race pace is very good when compared to alpine and haas
@@darshang1262 I hope their straightline speed is ok, especially with Ocon in front...
Missing out one very important point which is that Ferrari’s runs were compromised by the second red flag and the new tyres having to go back in the blankets…
yup. they had a heat cycle go through them so they werent as fresh as max's.
Wasn't it great to see the Dutch fans reply to the Silverstone crowd's booing from last weekend. Even better to see the F1 commentary team have an English whine about it too. If they are so keen on removing this type of crowd behavior (as they stated in the live post Q3 report), then they should have had the Journalistic fortitude to call it out at the British GP. Well done RB & Max and Well Done HAAS Again. 2 in the top 10 :)
I'm Dutch and I preffered if they hadn't. Sure Lewis is the one that fueled the fire with his comment about Copse corner and his notion that the English fans might have a grudge because of last season, but I'dd rather the Dutch fans be the bigger men.
@@suckieduckie ik ook Wietse!
Prima analyse....maar laten we vanaf NU weer de goede supporters zijn, we hebben onze gram gehaald.
@@suckieduckie Agreed!
@@volkiruski1221 Yes it would be nice to see and hear support for ALL the teams and Drivers !
Ye I don't think RBR is sacrificing any of the racepace in the setup in favor of qualifying since it has served them so well.
Max was asked about and he said that their csr is still focused more on race than qualy, lets wait and see fp2
Very unfair for Pierre not to be in Q3
Thanks for remembering Mark, Peter.
Peter is a very learned obviously and knows his stuff but idk, i sometimes feel that he really dont put respect to seb that seb deserves. The package seb has, he defo cant put it in top spots. But he isnt making mistakes like he used to do couple years back. He is coming back to form imo.
F1 is not a charity.
I used to fall for the same trap of trying to put down seb but honestly through the years I've learned to put some respect on his name. He is a damn 4 time world champion. Max barely got one.
Seb is done, he needs to retire
@@mbal4052 Same goes for Lewis
@@JudgeYuri lewis has pace to win races stfu. Bro was just winning his 8th title last year lol
Lewis simply got greedy and tried to carry more speed into the corner than what the car was capable of. End of story.
For everybody sneering that Red Bull, and therefore also Ferrari, is cheating, please consider that the FIA gives a set of rules and parameters the teams have to adhere to when building a car for a given season. There is no such thing as “the spirit of the regulations”. F-1 is full of stories of constructors find new ways to improve their cars that the gurus at the FIA had never considered. Colin Chapman’s use of skirts on the Lotus to Brabham’s Fan Car. Other teams invariably scream “UNFAIR” because they are constantly losing and call for the innovation to be banned. Toto is no exception to this.
If Toto & Merc think RB & Ferrari are cheating they should protest them to the scrutineers....its a simple process & should bring some clarity to the situation rather than the current dose of speculation
First time viewer here. Amazing information, looking forward to following along going forward! Thanks for the great insight
There’s no one better than Peter
Great insight. Thanks. Agree about sprint races, now I don't pay attention to qualifying for sprint race weekends.
Yep, downforce vs topspeed.
What I don't understand is why Toto wants stiffer floors. I would imagine that a bit of flex would sick the corners down and closing the airgap.
Like in this case, a slight jump opens the gap and reduces downforce.
Thanks for sharing your view.
If they can force other teams to change their floor, it might help Merc. No harm try when you are behind.
@@my2cents366 But why do he want the other teams to do the same as they want? Making it stiffer.
Just sort your own problems first.
@@henriwolbrink His job is to give his team an advantage. Either be dragging back or moving forward or best is to probably doing both dragging others back and moving forward. It is not that hard to understand.
@@my2cents366well this is a race. So he should work on his own results. And within the same given rules and regulations.
And not ask the race committee to slow down the other racers. While forcing them to extra investments.
It 8s still called a sport. Not a business.
Max slowered the first sector in order to have fresh tyres for the final sector as Marko advised him to do
sorry marco who?
@@Odysseuss. marko
@@Odysseuss. marco pierre white
@@Odysseuss. the goat
@@Odysseuss. please stop it silly little Sir/Queen boy fan
Looked to me like they pushed too hard what the car can handle, they felt like the car is way better now since the last result and pushed more than before and crashed
Peter doing his Yuki impression 🤣
"OVERSTEEER!!!" should be in the intro every time he does a break down.
Mark Donahue. What a loss.
I can't understand why Ferrari doesn't follow the same practice program as RB - set up for race first, then tune for qualifying. They keep prioritizing one lap over race pace for some reason...
Depends on the car design and drivers input
I think that they both simply pushed too hard. Lewis backed out of 2 previous push laps and his tyres were past their best. George was over doing it into the final corner. That simple.
He can't drive a car unless it's perfect. ..... alonso would be winning in that car because he's a top driver.
what a load of BS.
Also, I would think the A1-Ring is very downforce heavy, and the track elevation continuously changing, and mostly downhill after the first corner, so I imagine a race car with little downforce would be unsettling in and out for most of the track.
And george russell in post qualifying complaining about red bull & ferrari's floors, that they are mis-interpreting the rules. JUST FOCUS ON YOUR DAMN CAR !!! I think mercedes dont have any more ideas how to make their car better, so they are now focussed on bringing other teams down, thats understandable but a SICK move. A 8 time constructor champions shouldnt have to fall to this level to pull down other teams to their level.
I think these sprint races are a great example of a real test session u could have peter...think of the sprint race as a test session what better way than that then to race in real situations...a little experiementing...a short race instead
thanks @peterwindsor for seeing that rear break-n-loose as consistent FAIL issue for both the MERCs, as I felt the same about that. Also your much more "THe GuY" than I am and ya......good call
Check out the wind gusts at the time both incidents happened in those corners.
It was so silent on Lewis’ initial crash, it was like everyone was shocked at what happened. At first glance, I had thought it had been George.
From the replay, it looked like the Mercedes was drifting left before Lewis suddenly yanked it hard right. There was a noticeable jolt to the right at this point when he pulled it. What it looked like to me was that he lost the rears, starting to either oversteer or spin, and he tried to steer into it. Unfortunately for him, either he overcorrected or the rears suddenly regained traction, and he just went off.
As for George, his looked similar, but he just completely lost it and spun off. George did hit the inside kerbs, but it looked like at that point that his rear had already just started to go off, so it might not have been the kerbs that did him in, unless it was coming off the outside kerbs that broke his grip.
Funny thing is, when they were talking about the Merc’s setup during Lewis’s red flag, they said the setup was changed to bring the two cars closer to each other and I just thought “Well they better be careful or they risk George binning it just like Lewis.” Oof. I don’t think I’ve ever had a prediction come true that fast.
Checo will be starting P13 for sprint because the marshals neglected to delete his time in Q2. Hopefully this means he’ll be going destroy mode like last week and like in the 2020 Sakhir GP.
I was surprised that the qualifying continued after George’s crash. I thought we were going to get a repeat of Monaco. The whole “You didn’t improve? Too bad. Deal with it in the race.” They really wanted to give everyone one last chance.
When Max had yellows for section 1 and 2 in the final stint after George’s red, and the Ferrari’s both jumped him, I honestly thought it was all over. He put in a ridiculously good section 3, and equally impressive was that all three drivers achieved their improvements with tires that had since cooled during the double reds.
Also a great run for the two Haas. I hope Mick can land some more points.
Great analysis as always Peter, regarding Lewis's crash do you think the variable and strong winds had anything to do with his crash?
I have noticed several times with this year's cars that drivers seem to overcorrect, as Lewis did. The back end starts to slide and they apply a lot of opposite lock, more than needed to just hold the slide, and just drive off the track. Not just Mercedes either, though I can't remember names/places now. I don't seem to notice it now (until Lewis just did it), so the other teams may have overcome it, but as you say, the drivers just didn't seem to have good feel for the cars.
Why are you making Brazil ‘21 out to be Lewis skill? He had a rocket ship and passed most cars on the straight. I think half the grid could have done the same thing in that car.
Same with red bull this year! They win on the straights! Go ferrari!!
Your joking right?
Let’s see when happens when the FIA enforces the new reg on the flexing skid board (or whatever it’s called) Red Bull and Ferrari
Thanks Mr. Windsor
If like to know why Indy cars didn’t experience any porpoising when they went to ground effects a few years ago?
18:40 Nice tribute.
I’m sure the Mercs will make progress in the sprint race.
One will
@@mark4motion68 wat does that mean
They all will!
@@MrGtubedude I mean Russell is 4th. Don’t think he will be making any improvements on that seeing who is ahead of him. Lewis will
Yes, and Sky will report every little fight for 7th place, while Max invisibly wins the race. British press.
Before I even look at this I am thinking he will say it was wind that took Lewis out of course .. but GR made a mistake.. 😉
If Merc had got the aero right or either Ferari or RB got their reliability right, this championship might already be over. Merc can get to the end of the race every time but not at the front of the pack and the other two drive away from everyone then the car blows up...
PW does amazing job each time. Liked the Mark D. photo at the end.
Mercs seems to have changed the constellation of the plank / floor structure.
No issues, except when much steering is required in certain types of corners.
What was considered as a smart solution, that seemed to execute at circuits like Silverstone, now appears to ask for a critical re-evaluation, to apply the proper fine-tuning modifications.
The plank-road surface distance in certain types of corners, may cause other components to become acting in unanticipated fashion like a airplane-wing, or in cricket reverse swing.
Toto has to mobilize Houston flight control center inside the engineering department, to straighten out this reversal of the created improved ground effect, due to plank updates that may have reduced porpocing yet introduced an unsmart flaw with regard to other drivability areas..
PW: spot-on analysis, as usual. You're a treasure, man. MB's misfortune may actually be a blessing in disguise for them. They now have a better idea of how high they can ride height.
Lewis was a bit wide and tried to force the car to the apex of turn 7, it appeared.
At age 37, missing another apex....
@@hanskuijsten2380
:) Max was right with that cpmment.
@@hanskuijsten2380 hahahaha....point blank!
@@hanskuijsten2380 Yet, Lewis raced Perez, Carlos, and Leclerc, without incident the whole race in silverstone. Guess who wasn’t up front to cause chaos?
@@hanskuijsten2380 and max with the fastest car is still trying to crash out opponents. As shown with Mick last week
The weird thing is the 22s cars rotate very well they need ti put some understeer in them because they rotate really easy...mid corner....not sure if the floor centralizing has that..but they turn mid corner better than 21 cars which pushed mid corner an also were longer the cars are shorter than 21...an are supposed to come down again 23 season....making them turn even better....u also have bigger taller tires...how that factors in...still seaching balance..
The crashes where the mnistake of lewis and Russell them selves. They needed to push and couldn't keep up with Redbull and Ferrari.
The english fans must keep their mouth shut. They boo' ed in England and all the english press ignored it. Now they cry all about a bit of sheering!
Cheering after a crash is disgusting,perverted and toxic! Fits Verstappen fans perfectly! On TV we saw that one father with his daughter on his arm cheering and celebrating like Max had won the race! What a great example to his doughther...disgusting shitshow!
Spot on!
Did you forget the booing from crash fans last year or the year previous??
@@trance9158 no we didn't forget ham fans booing 🙄🙄
I like Mark Donohue but why was his picture at the end... in memoriam a month early?
So.... you called Russel one of the two best drivers in the world, please how many race's did he win in F1????
He once had race winning machinery and would have won if the team doesn't mess it up...
@@glidertastic5778 So...how many? 0 right?
It's a five-header then for some teams because after 1 week break there's a double-header again.
Sucks that its 2022, and we could easily exploit ground effects to its full potential by using active suspension / active aero bits, but we are not allowed.
Yeah because they want to simplify the cars not make them more complex
The funny thing is that last night, I thought man, they may not qualify well here because of the nature of the car and Austria has those sweeping corners. Especially the last corner. Well, I did not catch quali but I was not surprised when I read the results. I also understand more or less why Lewis lost in where he did and George lost it on the last corner.
I think they will do very well tomorrow.
Also, I forgot to mention that I think Max is learning from Lewis once again. We usually do not see him focus on long runs like that. At lease not so early. But I did also think that People are gonna pickup on Lewis strategy fairly quickly because the advantage it gives him over george is massive. He is able to challenge for wins when the team releases an update for bouncing (Spain and Silverstone) and Russell is not. I get his issue at Silverstone so I will not be a pleb and factor that into his performances. But at Spain, he was outclassed in spades.
Could you explain more on the long runs and Lewis's strategy you're talking about? I don't really follow
@@ituber09 sure. Lewis "struggle for the most of quality and free practice in Spain. He finished about a tenth behind George in q3.
In Silverstone he was faster but did not look on par with Red Bull and Ferrari. Well he looked to have similar race pace but Ferrari had the edge.
In both instances, he ended up challenging for the win and would have done so in Spain if Kevin did not hit him. This is not a coincidence. He learned this ability from Button. The ability to prioritize the race in setup and make up the lost in one lap speed with talent. This is why he was 1 tenth behind Russell in Spain Q3 and miles faster in the race. You prioritize the race and leave enough on the setup to possibly get pole still. He did this with Rosberg A LOT. He used many tricks with Rosberg but he used this particular strategy a lot with him because of the issues with his starts. So even though they were in the same car, their race pace usually was night and day. I can go deeper but I think this is good lol.
@@ltitus8900 thank you! This is a new insight I haven't heard mentioned before. And yeah, please go deeper all you want, love getting into it when it comes to F1!
@@ltitus8900 I think it's weird to give Hamilton credit for Max's progress.
The idea that Max is learning from Lewis is insane.
Regarding Lewis and George. Right now Lewis is a better all round driver. Russell was always known as "mister saturday" (though I think he is also a good racer).
Your reasoning is a bit wonky. Lewis doesn't have some clever strategy of sacrificing qualifying for race pace.
Booing ? Why ? Impossible to have a close race without a close rival ? This applies to all fans at every GP.
I don't know about that. George said that he simply took too much speed into turn 10. Lewis I don't know. So I don't think there is 1 reason why they both crashed.
That was my take, too. George just overcooked it, trying to get into the top rows. But Lewis... have you EVER seen Lewis crash in qualifying? The car just getting all squirrely and totally out of control without an obvious trigger, that seems a lot more like a severe car behavior issue than driver error. Lewis went for YEARS without a DNF, at all. He just doesn't make errors like other drivers. (Max has picked that up from him, too... Max doesn't screw up anymore.)
Max's only weakness against Lewis and Charles has been qualifying and it's barely even a weakness. Props to him and RB. Insane consistency.
The rb is designed to be a race winning car with very good qualy prowess. The ferrari is the complete opposite. Leclerc and max are about even on raw pace so its ferrari's one lap pace which makes the difference but come race day, the superior race pace of rb takes over. If russell hadnt crashed and brought the red flags, leclerc (and maybe even sainz) would have outqualified max. The ferraris had already left the track and put a heat cycle on their new tyres. max didnt. Thats why max's tyres were fresher for that last lap.
Max crashed through lack of skill......he is however a World Champion Virtue Signaler 😀
Karma for Lewis after BS comment that Leclerc is more sensible driver (copse corner..)
If karma was a thing,then each member of the 🍊 army which cheered at the incidents today should get hemmoroids by tommorow morning....what a shitshow of a fanbase in f1
Both Mercedes crashes had a similar look, snapping the back end around approaching the apex. That's a place where the car should be relatively settled. I think that speaks to a car which remains very difficult to drive as its behavior is unpredictable.
The Skysports coverage is shameful during Austrian gp qualifying. The Skysport commentators are so bias for British drivers. Classic example they say it was so shameful that the Dutch crowd was cheering when Hamilton crash. Hello they forgot about the cheering of the British crowd last year when Verstappen crash in Silverstone. And this skysports media never said that it was shameful for British crowd and Hamilton celebrating even though Verstappen might be hurt caused by Hamilton. Not hating here just stating the British media bias. Every good little thing that a Brit f1 driver is exaggerated. Lando and Russell are always hyped. While they give tsunoda a bad reputation when every other driver makes mistakes and swears on the radio and gets angry.
Exactly my thoughts
dont watch sky then mate
@@ND9HighlightsComps they are the commentators for skysports and F1TV mate
@@ND9HighlightsComps sky has exclusive contract for F1. Where else can you watch? The Brit hype train show is on.
The commentators need replacing. They have been very annoying this year.
I think Peter is reading too much into it. Merc will probably find a set up issue that makes the cars rotate in an unpredictable fashion, when the driver lifts at the limit in the corner. You could hear Lewis lifting, George probably did too as he was transitioning from T9 to 10.
Sky slammed the crowd for jeering Hamilton's crash, without mention of the boos Max got at Silverstone (presumably just for being there).
Thank you - finally someone who sees this the same way I do - I really think the British media and Merc are toxic - bit like Boris and the sad state of UK politics x
Sky is British that says it all!
@@gavinfinlayson485 British exceptionalism, I'm British but it makes me cringe
I cheered my head off, thought it was great, cherry on the cake was Noble Steed George flying off too. Then Mr No-Mikey-No, Otto Wolf, asking for the People to be Educated--hilarious!! I mean, can one be dumber than Otto Wolf???
@@stevegreenwood1790 i'm cringing with you buddy
So suction-feel rather than subtle-spiky this weekend. Although elegant-graceful may get a run.
if the FIA insists on raised ride heights, are we not going to see this happening to other teams... or are we at the point where porpoising is solved now? seems like a major risk to driver safety... more so than lower back pain.
Interesting how close the top speeds are
The 2022 regs (2021) continue to cause the sport a massive amount of disruption. I guess the design group that wrote this paper (back in 2020) wish they hadn’t bothered!
I agree they were so bent on making changes to level the playing field, that a lot of the problems we see now may not have been considered.
Max has a really fast car but still Those merc boys are fast in a slower car
Great now we can stop talking about Perez being a contender for the WDC. He wins by misfortunes and not merit. He isn't at the same league as Max. I hope he has another good recovery drive during the Sprint and Sunday. He starts P13 not 4 but I guess this was recorded before the penalty was handed out.
Anybody who actually thought Perez is better is a fool!
Russel crash is not the same as Lewis. Russel had his car on the curb before corner 10 and it was already losing downforce because of the curb. If you check the video, as soon as Russel started turning into 10 while he was on the curb the car started going around from the back.
What about the influence of the wind? I understand that all along the track the winds constantly changed in both direction and strength. All cars seemed to be influenced by that, but could it be that the Mercedes was even more sensitive to those constantly changing winds?
we've had at least one fairly windy gps this year and it didn't affect them, if that is the case though it's very worrying. the fact that the car is so sensetive it caused 2 crashes is a huge saftey concern.
They displayed the wind chart at some point during qualifying. I think it was 2km/h wind speed. That's barely nothing, not a factor and besides no other driver did mention anyhting about wind either so I think the explanation of Peter regarding why Mercedes drivers are losing the car in those turns is a more valid explanation.
Can we call a spade a spade? They made mistakes, that's why they crashed.
Can we all call an inbred mxrxn an inbred mxrxn?
As brindle said the loads transfer to the front in that corner just before the apex ,just pushing too hard with this in mind !!
Excellent insight as ever, thank you, Peter.
Russell got a first lap in in Q3 - Lewis didn't. That's why George is ahead on the grid.
I think Lewis' crash was driver error - it may have been a sudden minor twitch, but looking at the video suggests he may have overcorrected steering directly to the side, into the barrier. If he had not done so he could have got further around the corner.