VFC HK416A5 V3 GBBR: Did they fix it?
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- Enough time has passed since I owned the Version 2 HK416A5 GBBR, I decided it was time to adopt the latest Version 3 to see if VFC has learned from their mistakes of the past. My old videos on the V2 showed a capable GBBR with only a handful of small flaws, and while they weren’t necessarily a big deal, they were enough for the HK416A5 to lose against its competitors at the time.
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Thanks for another honest and great video! After years of playing GBBRs with different brands, I now only use TM, which gives me peace of mind in the field.
And thank you for watching.
I really don’t blame you. They work. Nothing else to it.
Make my day! 😎
I love my black HK 416 V2 GBB. Your wonderful video about it was crucial to buy that beauty in 2019.
Bought the RAL8000 V2 in 2021 because of his vid too 😌
@@noobiix007 Great 😊👍🏼
My a5 tan gbb is wYyyy bettterrr
One of the best airsoft review chanel that exist on youtube , always with videos well made , is so inspiring ! Bada you are the best !
I do my best. Thanks a lot, mate.
I really appreciate your support
When you put down that much money, it shouldn’t be a lottery whether it works or not.
Never had an issue with bolt catch. Even with the mag that comes with it. But I still recommend the V3 mags
@@tomschu6638 Apparantly lemons still slip through QC. Basic functions should simply work on every single unit they ship out. You wouldn't like it either to receive an unreliable unit.
@@ExiLeZH yeah ofc but it's really odd that he got 2 times a bad replica. I even have the V2. I don't know if he took it apart before testing. I put it apart first and lubed it properly everywhere, tightened and secured all important screws and it was running fine ever since. The only issues I ever had where self induced like obstructed barrel with dirt which made the nozzle blow up. I'm totally sold on vfc quality
@@tomschu6638 He can't be the only one right? Or he's extremely unlucky. Eitherway, it should just work on every unit.
I mean, the amount of money being spent isn’t a ton and for what you are getting, it’s pretty good
The problem is with the HK 556 mags, they have not been updated since V2. Get the V3 stanags they should work much better
Literally the only thing different is the dry fire switch and the bolt stop lever being plastic, everything else is the same
@@opairsoft8100 no they are not the same, i use v3 stanags in a VT without problems, hk 416 mags fit but dont work at all, they also sit slightly lower in the gun making the nozzle seal worse.
I have MK18 V3 and use V3 pmags and bolt catch works perfect every time
Vfc v3 mags are a must the v2 magazine are not good for bolt lock
I get 100 percent bolt lock on my v3 mags but not the stock one
@@rosvanrooden6145 uh yes they are….literally the only difference between v2 and v3 is the dry fire switch and plastic bolt stop lever…..
416 mags are a completely different subject
I was In tears laughing after the green goblin cut in 😂
😂
DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I SACRIFICED?!!?
@@BadaBingPictures bought my V3 the week it came out. It won’t even cycle through 1 full mag, along with lock back issues. Went back to the store they told me to install the V2 nozzle that allowed npas. Had it now tuned for winter with winter buffer spring. Now runs like a viper tech….
V3 magazines are a must !
Well said. Thanks for the honesty..
My pleasure. Thanks for watching
Increasing the bolt travel by using a RS buffer tube made mine more consistent. It does overtravel but i did shim the inside just enough for the bolt to travel farther compared to the stock, making bolt lock a guarantee. I also use a 3oz H buffer which improves cyclic rate a bit due to it being lighter. I use VMAGs exclusively, only had problems with the V2 VMAGs, but no problems with V3 ones even before i changed out the buffer tube
Cool feedback, thanks.
I tried with my V3 VMAG but it was still inconsistent. If I split the upper and lower I couldn’t send it back to the shop, so I tested it with the two mags I had as best as I could and the bolt lock didn’t work.
I’m not messing around with it in an attempt to make it lock up properly. It should be 100% from the box. After my old V2 I had, this V3 owed me big time. What a kick in the balls.
@@BadaBingPictures I agree, you shouldn't have to do all of that for a working bolt lock. One reason i see that may be the cause of the issue is the weight of the bolt, the buffer spring, and buffer. On higher-end VFC ARs, the issue is less noticeable because the bolt is steel, which moves slower because of the rather weak buffer spring. In this case, the bolt catch has enough time to fully engage. However on "lower" end models like the 416, M733, XM177 etc., the carrier is zinc aluminum, which is lighter and therefore faster. The rather weak spring suddenly isn't weak anymore because of the difference in weight, enough to effectively lessening the window of time the lock has to fully engage. This is the reason why I think GHK got the design right by moving the catch surface rearward instead of keeping it flush. It gives more time for the lock to engage, much like what i said on my original comment (using an RS tube to lengthen bolt travel).
In case of the magazines, on the V3 there is a little nub/ notch at the rear of the lock tab directly at the left hand side of the output valve. Pulling the lock tab upwards will cause the nub to lock on top of the rear part of the feedlips. This, added with the constant pressure from the follower spring, will give better bolt lock consistency. I won't lie, this does need time to break in so that every time that last BB leaves the feedlips, the nub will rise and lock onto the rear to help the follower spring to engage the lock more effectively.
Yeah i think you're out of luck on this one if you don't plan on taking it apart for warranty reasons. The way i see it, this is the only way to really fix the issue. Heavier steel bolt (not mandatory) + RS buffer (because the VFC one sucks) and buffer tube = more time for the bolt catch to fully extend and engage. Its sad to see you not enjoying the product out of the box, since your original review was the reason i came to know of the 416a5 and eventually preordered the V3 back in december of 2022.
@@Jerv165, what RS buffer tube do you use? What producer, and, is it mil spec, commercial? ... Or do you mean original RS HK416/MR223 buffer tube fits and this is what you've used?
@@APair0 I used the cheapest milspec no-name brand buffer set i could find. The set comes with an RS buffer tube, spring, 3oz buffer, castle nut and the end plate w/o sling attachment holes. I used the castle nut and end plate that came with the 416a5 though. MR223 buffer tubes should work in theory, but i would recommend the cheapest one you can find since it's just a toy anyway.
@@Jerv165 Thanks for sharing super quickly, now it's clear :). One question I forgot... does original vfc/hk416a5 stock still fit fine the new buffer tube?
V3 mag fixed all the issues i have with this rig. V2 hk mag is kinda odd, sometimes it works and sometimes not. EDIT: You can always shim bolt lock or bent it downwards a little bit.
Is it really that easy of a fix, besides using the m4 v3 stanag mags? I've seen someone else say the same thing about bending the bolt lock downwards by 1mm. Because in that case it makes this whole video pointless from this dude overblowing such an easily fixable issue. Like yeah, vfc should fix it themselves, but at least it's not like this gbbr isn't good just because of it.
@@vali69 Im using v3 stanags and it works wonder, friend had to bent his bolt lock due to him using v2 mags tho.
Awesome, can't wait!!
😬 might be somewhat anticlimactic
Oh men! I was considering their sr series AR platform. Thank you for the helpful video 😊
Meanwhile I spent 220 on a used v2 and got the bolt to lock back every time by just bending down the bolt lock tab that meets the magazine.
Added an aftermarket valve knocker assembly too and bobs my uncle.
Now that’s got me feeling like a lottery winner alright.
Ah yes really needed an up to date review for this. Thanks in advance. Later on: well that sucks however maybe consider trying the v3 mags before sending it back just in case its just not liking the v2 mags much
Too late bud. I said to myself that if it didn’t run to at least 30 bolt locks in a row, I’d send it back.
This V3 had to prove to me without a shadow of doubt that it was improved. It owed me that from the last one. Big time!
As it was too inconsistent on the V2 416 and V3 PMAG, I had to send it back.
I gave it the best chance I could while keeping to the retailer agreement for terms of return and I shipped it back.
@BadaBingPictures ah very well well you gave it more chance than any other reviewer would do so props anyway
unbelievable.. was about to order one
I own one of these and totally dominate the battle field with it. Although I have had a few times where bolt hasn't locked back, possibly due the mags running out of gas.
Cracking review really, I must say gas guns appear to be dropping their quality and have beenfor a rather long time. Keep the reviews coming.
Tbh it’s not a review at all. More of a “here we go again”. If it works…great! I’ll do a proper V3 review.
If it doesn’t work, I’ll wrap it up and return it for my refund!
As it didn’t work as it’s supposed to it went back. Of course I had to get some footage of it…can’t waste this experience without recording feedback!
@@BadaBingPictures couldn't agree with you more, it does make you think why companies put these products out unfinished, gas guns are a prime example, the bolt needs to lock back on empty each and every time, however VFC are doing wonders with their "not and M4" replicas.
Freind of mine has an old 416 (i think gen2) and he never cleans it. Only problems he ever had were a broken hammer and charginghandle connector.
Is that GBB broken in? I only ever got one VFC, so i can't speak for everything else. I got the G3A3 and it was making problems in the beginning. But just by using it, thus breaking it in, those problems went away. One problem was a dragging bolt. The hammer reset plate is made of steel and was carving its way through the bolt, until it hit a screw that is meant to slide against it. Then, after a short cleaning i never had a problem again.
Also. Why is the whole GBB slothered in grease? Did it come like this from the factory? This is exessive. Way to much, and can also empeed bolt function. In colder weather or after a lot of consecutive shots, the grease will thicken and slow down the bolt or even lock up valves, in extrem cases.
Not to mention that grease also attracts dirt.
Thank you for saving my money!
I know 2 people who got theseas first RIF, BOTH of them do the same thing. Tried 3 different mags which make no difference, so now they have been returned after some resistance from the shop but a video does not lie. Now MWS army :)
Glad to hear they were returned to the shop.
Less than impressed that the shop doesn’t test them out before leaving the premises.
Wonderful news that the MWS army has gained more followers!
@@BadaBingPictures they claimed they only check the mag holds gas and fire a few shots with a known shop mag to tick a
I dont personally have one but my mate has one and the v3 mags work flawlessly, i think thats the issue.
pog i got mine 1 ish year ago and man its good in my opinion atleast the v3
mine did not have the bolt lock isue so idk
I own a APFG MPX and have tried a few VFC GBBRs. To give them credit their triggers are mazing but I just find that I am left lacking after owning a MWS. The VFC just docent perform like the TM does in my opinion
While I’m very much team mws, before you write the vfc off, try the v3 mags. The HK mags are not as good as the v3 ones
Too late dude. Returned and refunded.
I heard people say the V3 mags are more likely to lock up…but it would be my luck that they wouldn’t. You never know.
They SHOULD work though. Whether HK mag or V3.
nah, the auto sear pin on mine slipped out like a loose condom during its first game day. The next triggerer pull the bolt carrier smashed the auto sear, then the auto sear smashed into the safety selector skewer, thus snapping it. Now my 416 v3 can only shoot semi-auto. VFC denied my warranty inquiry because i didnt buy it from their exclusive dealer in my country.
Sounded like weak on gas... but for sure you know how to deal with that, also, I worked in a v2 and I made it 100% bolt lock reliable, its just strange, but the main problem with VFC is its consistency, one replica can be perfect and another unit same model may come full of flaws...
And still ppl talking about how bad GHK is 😂
At this point I think VFC are out to get me.
I could have easily made this work, but enough is enough. We shouldn’t have to lift a finger to make it work. Beyond charging gas and bbs.
@@BadaBingPictures exactly
@@matthiasprc4828 The problem with GHk comes with the replicas they have to make "manually", but for example with ARs wich are made cnc they come perfect, Im super delighted with mine and Im waiting desperately for the v3 version.
@@Holanduzo same for me ! My late v2 has been running like a charm since day one !
I've had multiple vfc 416 and ar15, mostly v2 systems, never had bolt lock issues this bad. Also judging on how it cycles, it seems like you're not using an adequate gas (go a bit higher with psi)
Also, try putting heat shrink on the arm of the bolt catch that engages the mag!
Well that’s unfair. You get all the working ones and I get the rejects. Nice 😜
I’m using propane. Exactly what every other GBBR of mine uses and those work fine. Even in the cold. The gas isn’t the issue.
I demonstrated reason for the slow response and that was the catch trying to flick up to lock but ended up dragging on the carrier. When I pushed it in and fired, the cycle was fine.
I sent the rifle back to the shop. I decided I wasn’t going to accept this flaw after waiting six years following my old V2. No messing around. No modding. If it didn’t work on its host magazine and V3 VMAG, it’s not my job to fix it.
Especially for a pricy premium gun like this, no one should accept it like this.
Mightve gotten a lemon, oof. I own one myself and so far it has been working great and hadnt had problems with it
That’s all I seem to get. Lemons.
Good yours has been working fine though. 👍
Lock back has left the chat at 3 minutes.
There seems to be a pattern with alot of VFC GBBRs. My V1 G36 was horrible aswell. My MP7 V2 on the other hand works like a charm. Still very sad to see that they have not learned from their previous mistakes.
I still use the v2 i removed the spring of the bolt catch and had no problem with it ever since
If you havent already noticed, Land Warrior Airsoft have the VFC PPK/S listed for an expected August release 😉 ill be ordering one as soon as i can.
Mine functions just fine I haven't had this issue yet and I've had mine for over a year.
VFC hates me, that’s what it is.
the time has come
THE FIX IS ACTUALLY VERY SIMPLE. Just replace the bolt stop reset spring with a weaker one or cut 1-2 rings off the original. The stock spring is too strong and impedes the bolt catch from springing up fast enough to catch the bolt.
So simple, and yet VFC couldn’t be bothered.
Good work chaps
Oh....first time watching it live ^^
Bolt lock issue is not cleared yet for v3 and I knew it.
But I guess biggest update for v3 is the firing pin which was real issue for v2.
I've had it for about a year and it's been working great with the V3 mags. It's a shame the gun comes with the old V2 magazine.
My VFC MP7 won't even lock back manually, you gotta flip it upside-down while holding up on the catch.
Hey what are you complaining about? You get to buy an overpriced official licensed pot metal garbage rod! Be satisfied with it! Umarex wants your money!
Umarex, is that you? Lol
Me: “I want something that works.”
Umarex: “YOU’LL GET NOTHING AND LIKE IT!👹 “
@@BadaBingPictures 😄😁
Hey Bing! sorry that you had a bad time with it. HK mags are notorious for causing bolt lock issues, i can assure you that it's 100% magazine related. this doesn't happen with grey stanags/vmags! All of my VFC ARs and my friend's have ran flawlessly for years with grey stanags
Hi mate,
Great to see you in the comments again.
Yeah I heard a lot of positive feedback regarding the V3 mags. Particularly the stanags.
My V3 VMAG was just as reluctant to lock up, sadly. I could have picked up the stanags but I always had that feeling in the back of my mind, “what if they don’t work either?”.
I wasn’t prepared to chance it. 2 out 3 styles of mags didn’t work, so I thought I won’t push it, I’ll send it back while I can. They are ALL
supposed to work, not just one in particular.
So I lost faith/patience with it.
Could it be that you are using low power gas? It looks like the bolt doesn’t go back as far when it doesn’t lock. Maybe you could try if it works every time with more powerful gas. If that works, adjust the npas to the field limit while using the higher gas maybe?
Nope. Propane 💪
All the other GBB’s run like monsters on it, so the 416 should be no different.
The working parts cleared the minimum engagement for bolt lock. The levers and springs just didn’t do their jobs.
I sent it back and got refunded.
My BCM works just fine and it's one of the first V3's that VFC released. Would quite easily lock back for around 150-180 rounds but still chamber and shoot another bb for another 50-80 rounds.
I’ve heard nothing but good things about the BCM and KAC. Although to continue the story of my time with the 416A5, I wanted to return with their V3 version and report back what I found. Be it good or bad.
I’m a glutton for punishment. It seems. Hah
Always went back and forth on jumping on a vfc ar. In the end I went with marui mws. The only reason I'd might still consider it, is to do an m27 build
Edit: I don't know why I haven't googled it before but there does seem to be an m27 kit for the mws
I think you ought to get a another one, only IF you can get a full refund on this one, if you can't get the full refund, it's best to just not get another one, in any case, another great video
I got the full refund after sending it back. So at least I’m not stuck with something I’d have to fix.
Glad it was a local purchase and not from abroad. Shipping it back would’ve been pricy!
I might try one last time. If I can muster up the strength to put my faith in them one last time.
After some reading it sounds like this gbbr should work flawlessly with the v3 mags, or by slightly bending the bolt lock downwards. If that's the case and the thing works fine like that, wouldn't it be a good gbbr to start with? It's like 400 dollars, 100 more for shipping and 100 more in vat tax, 600 or 700 with spare v3 mags. That's really good for a stock gbbr, comparing to viper tech I think I'd get like 400 to 600 dollars to spare for mods that would go into the price of the vt.
This specific GBBR should work flawlessly…although aside from that one (I would say crucial part), it ran exceptionally well.
It’s efficient. Good fast action to Heavy Recoil ratio. Everything that you’d want in a GBBR.
They just slip up every now and then.
Would highly recommend investing in this rather than a Viper Tech for your 1st GBBR.
With the money you’ll save you could put that into spare magazines and any fancy accessories you’d like.
ever thought it was wear in issue? don't have the 416 v3. but i have an apfg v3.
If this were a few years ago I would be kept it and fixed it. Now I feel if it doesn’t work properly from the box I’m not doing their job for them.
I’d rather send it back for a full refund.
Ive got then 2 unicorn HK416 v2 - both of them bolt lock 100% of a time with both stock and purchased mags
Oh for god sake, this isn’t fair. All these operational bolt lock V2’s!!
@@BadaBingPictures well them gbbrs are expensive so their quality control should be on point. Did you try speaking to VFC about replacement?
@@michaweremko3507 Agreed. They should be.
I tried speaking to them regarding a more serious issue with my HK417 many years ago. They weren’t helpful at all.
I bought a SCAR-H GBB from VFC and I have the same problem. Tried many ways, but nothing helped. It's very sad because I really like how it looks, but I can't play with it(
The source of the problem I found was the understrength follower springs in the magazine. Not sure if the V3 STANAGs have improved on this.
Its unbelievable in this point of time they still dont get it right. Not for that kind of money
They had six years to make it reliable. SIX!
The more I think about it, the more it drives me bananas.
Very Frustrating Company :D
get V3 Mags, the ones it comes with are V2s, V3 mags do not have the bolt lock issue
I have the 41615 v3 that exact model.. I have had 0 issues with the V2 stanag and V3 pmags.
I played a milsim last saturday. I've had no issues whatsoever. it locked back all 7 of my mags. auto or single fire
i don't know why you are having so many issues?
my 1 issue with the gun is the grip... i find my finger hurts on the corner edge near the trigger.
Me too.. 7 V2 Mags on 7 every time bolt lock 100%.
Mags really used
@@tommsorg i haven't had any issues at all. im happy others are reporting the same.
I don’t know why either. It’s like they’re mocking me.
Glad to hear you guys have had positive experiences. Although it’s a bit unfair…
@@BadaBingPictures it's definitely unfair. Have you made sure to remove the stock lube and relube everything yourself? Tighten everything back? Sorry if you have. I didn't rewatch the video. If you try V3 mags, is it any better? I've heard many issues with v2 mags but V3 PMags work incredibly well for me
@@Phyxius_Debello I didn’t disassemble it. I didn’t trust the rifle at all, so I said to myself that I would maintain the retailers terms of returns policy by not stripping it down, and if it didn’t work properly I would be able to return it for a refund.
As it didn’t work with its V2 416 mag and V3 VMAG I was eligible to return it. Seeing the inconsistent locks I was so disappointed and really did not want to waste my time fixing something that should’ve been right on my first 416A5.
I kept the rifle for a day and I did my best, on and off camera, although sadly it refused to work at the rate it should.
It went back to the shop and I got my money back. Pain in the ass but all I lost out of it was £15 return shipping.
I have to agree with the comment that we, the users, should not need to fix this out of the box on behalf of the manufacturer to make it work. I understand people wanting to change fps, barrel lengths, etc to make it legal for their sites or go for a certain look etc but not this.
550 quid + is one hell of an investment in, as bada says, a toy and one most people cannot make on a whim.
So thank you for the updated review :-) , I've been wanting an A5 to go with my TM Devgru, but it looks like I'm still waiting for this to be sorted
I’ve got a theory that Asian Edition 416’s are a-okay. They export the junk to us over here.
Makes sense considering the 1st batch EU V2 A5’s 6 years ago were highly criticised for having issues. They later released them in Asia and bam, no problems. Funny that.
the problem is that the standard bolt lock from fatory is very worn out, i solved the problem completely by just buying a new one, never had the problem since
6:08 its funny you say that because even my we locks back every time after getting a real steel mag catch
Last time I had experience with WE AR’s was about 10 years ago. I’m glad they work now though haha
Like you and everyone else said down below, using V3 grey mag would fix any issue caused by the HK mag. You better believe it because it's true, or stick to whatever GHK has to offer.
Hey Bing, this video gave me some questions:
1- The bolt catch in the 416a5 is considerably bigger, and has a pad for ambient bolt drop. Do you think that maybe this extra material and weight compared to standard AR bolt catchs, could be the reason the lock back is not 100% trustworthy?
2- How do you see VFC after this? Still hyped about their new non AR releases (AK74mn and maybe the FNC)?
Obs: sorry for my bad English 😅
Hi,
Your English is great. 👍
That might be the case. Possible they are not using the correct parts to deal with that slightly added weight. For example they might be using the bolt catch spring for their regular M4’s or M733 etc…
This isn’t the first time I’ve bought a VFC GBB and it not function properly right from the box.
They have gotten better over the last 3 years or so, sadly it’s the little mistakes that keep being made.
I don’t get hyped over their stuff. If I decide to buy something new from them, I mentally prepare for disappointment. Even their older stuff like the 416A5.
I see genuinely see them as that red flag girl…nice on the outside but crazy enough to attack you with a knife. Much like my reference to Fatal Attraction in this video 😂
Hey Badabing, Have you seen a Guns Modify 416A5 based on a MWS system? It would be awesome if you could compare them two.
Hi,
I have indeed. I don’t think I’ll be investing in it though.
@@BadaBingPictures ::insertsadpuppyface::
@@DavorPranjic Sorry mate.
My reasoning comes down to expense and already owning a TM M4. Externals aside, it’s basically the same gun.
Plus, this VFC 416 was sent back to the shop.
Others say that the gun is V3 BUT the mags are still V2. You can buy new V3 mags.
I know exactly how you feel. My first GBB was a Mac11 so that's irrelevant in this discussion but my second was a KWA USP .45, that had the most unreliable slide catch so I'm allergic to guns not locking back. The funny thing is that _my_ WE 416 locks back 100% reliably 😅
Anything interesting you have your eye on from the money you get back? I mean that money is earmarked for airsoft, isn't it?
My friend, that money is earmarked for hookers and blow! If it’s going to screw me over, it had better leave me with a big smile on my face!
But yes. KWA had a couple of bad USP batches where they didn’t want to run to slide lock. My friend and I were victims of that batch too.
So what are your thoughts on the vfc xm177 gbbr?
I ve been drooling at the thought of getting one for a while now, cuz of retro looks and all, but now that I ve watched this review it makes me wanna step back...
I have no experience with their new line of retro rifles. So I cannot comment.
Don’t let this video put you off. The feedback on those new XM’s have been good, so I hear.
My v2 hk416 locks bolt every time🫡 same with my bcm mcmr they actualy have a more consistent bolt lock then my marui mws with a aftermarket titanium bolt catch. Its sad to see you keep getting lemons but I do love my Vfc gbbrs
I think it would be better for everybody if you were to just send me your V2 HK416. 😉 it’s for the best.
But you are willing to buy hopup arm and nozzle spring ect. to marui? To me vfc makes much more sense. It can lift heavy bb, it dont need gg mods and trigger feels much better.
Abso-bloody-lutely! Its baseline functions work.
Cold weather performance is superior, accuracy is great, the system functions quicker than a whippet with a butt full of dynamite and the bolt lock works!
If the price for longevity is £10 for a BavTac nozzle spring, then it’s 100% worth it.
The VFC would make sense if they cared enough to ensure its core functions operate. Otherwise it’s nothing but disrespect to whomever forks over their hard earned cash.
Edit: looking outside of my experiences…there are plenty of users that own VFC 416’s with no issues at all.
It’s not the gun it’s the mags! I don’t understand why VFC would ship the V3 system with V2 mags! APFG ships V3 stanags with their MCX replicas and they are basically the same company!
I would said its too cold for it to lock back
my V2 works fine in 20~30 degree
At the minimum it was about 15°. But it was probably closer to 20° as it was indoors.
The VMAG was certainly warm as I already owned it.
Still, bolt lock should work down to the single digits. Does on the GHK and TM M4’s.
Hi Badabing, I realize that your VFC 416 has a relatively stiff recoil spring and you seem to be using weak green gas in quite cold UK weather (in Asia we usually use 12kg green gas at low temperatures). 25-30 degrees Celsius) leads to the bolt carrier sometimes not going all the way, leading to bolt lock failure, Could you try a stronger gas or use GHK's softer recoil spring and share back with me the results?
Hi,
I only use Propane, which is the equivalent of a full strength green gas. So it’s definitely man enough to run the action.
It was a cosy room temperature. So it shouldn’t be an issue.
I sent it back to the shop as it just wasn’t doing what it was supposed to. I decided not to mess with it, not when all my other AR GBBR’s can lock the bolt back out of the box.
@@BadaBingPictures I agree with your decision, hope the store will check and send you back a more perfect Hk416a5
@@KhoaNguyen-nk4zg I received a refund. Not all is lost though. I replaced it with something else…and it’s nice 👍
@@BadaBingPictures Although there have been advances in recent years, VFC seems to be very conservative in listening to customer contributions. I sent an email to VFC to complain that BCM's bolt carrier was too soft and led to deformation after long periods of use, but... Lol, they said I did not assemble the gun properly, causing the bolt carrier to rub. with auto sear and distortion. So we need to be strong with them
@@BadaBingPictures I know that VFC has the HK416 a5 V2 gbbr forged in 6061-t6 aluminum (About 1200 USD for this gun). It wouldn't be bad if we changed the V2 valve knocker into an ESD valve knocker
Saludos! A la fecha actual, cual es la mejor gbb en cuanto a jugar sin modificar y durabilidad? Gracias
Sussy, my v2 and v3 416, Asia Editions have no issues with lock back
Check out my latest vid. I decided to buy an Asian Edition…I gave it one last chance.
@@BadaBingPictures I have no doubt VFC is binning their best batches for Asia. Just look at how they treat buyers that are outside their warranty regions and consumers who dont buy through regional exclusive distributors. I hate anticonsumer practices and it's really pushing me away from VFC
If it wasn't so horrendously expensive to test the theory, I would like to buy a group sample from EU and Asia. See what the failure rate is between them.
But then the money would be wisely invested elsewhere. Does make one think though…
Yoo badabing, could i send u my UMP45 for a review, cant find proper in depth reviews anywhere
Hi mate,
I was always rather fond of the UMP’s but never got around to buying one. That’s an amazing opportunity, thanks!
Sadly my schedule is jam packed right now. I’ve had to turn down many offers recently and I really need to get cracking!
Thanks again for the offer. I really appreciate the support
@@BadaBingPictures no problem at all brother 🫡
mate I heard a bloke say if you swap out the bolt for the steel one it locks back every time.
This sucks, all my vfcs have worked bolt lock wise. My V3 416D, v2 MK18 and 417 V2 all lock back without issue. That also includes the 416 and MK18 running on h3 Carbine buffers.
Meant to say that, everyone I play airsoft with has no issues with their vfcs either. Sucks you got it, twice.
The original buffer is just a shit, by changing it to Guarder buffer, then functions well.
How about getting a 417 instead?
I would love a 417. I don’t think I’m ready to go back to one though, not after the V1 I had.
Still suffering from the night terrors as a result
Hey mate! hope you are well. Have you seen the DE Noveske N4? its a clone of TM Mws system
Hey dude,
I am very well, thanks. Yourself?
I know of it. Never seen one in real life though.
Bloody hell, my WE m4a1 works flawlessly and they are considered the cheap spectrum of gbbrs. 2 years with about 10.000 rounds through it. It did need a slight bolt catch mod but a child could do it. I agree with Bada, for that amount of money it should be spot on from the box.
what gas are you using ? both my p320's and 416 locks back after empty mag
I only use propane.
Every other GBB I have runs to bolt like perfectly. It’s just the 416A5’s and M17 is where I have trouble.
@@BadaBingPictures ah allright, i run 200 psi gas in mine, that might be it
V3 gun but no v3 mag ultimately makes it a V2.5, I also don’t understand why they ship v2mags with v3 mags it’s stupid
It’s crazy they haven’t updated their 416V2 mag to V3 yet. I quite like the 416 style mags
@@BadaBingPicturesI’ve had all these problems it worked Amazing on the v3 mags but I’ve had to alter my gun to make the v2 work aswell because I don’t have the money and time to swap all to v3. Its stupid
WEIRD! MINE LOCKS BACK EVERYY TIME#
Ok, this is funny thing. My XM177E2 v3 doesn't have this problem for 1 year and 2 moths of use this rifle, bolt is always lock. MWS mtr16 by TM have this problem like this VFC Hk416a5.
That just goes to show that it doesn't matter which brand you worship, you're still at the mercy of QC lords at your favorite company... As for your TM issues you could make sure that your buffer tube isn't screwed in too far, i had a similar issue when i reassembled mine and after i unscrewed the buffer tube one rotation then it worked as it should. Just make sure it's not overtraveling after you unscrew it, could be you have a different issue, be it with mags or something else.
@@codemy666 And this is called "best gbbr" it's funny calling toygun where you start with cost ~650-700$? Where you have weak sealing in nozzle, mags where dont give a shit about gas waste'ing if you fill the mag. Funny.
@@NeoMartel Not sure if i agree with you there, but to each their own.
Why selector is on safe mode?
the good version of the A5 says "Heckler & Koch GmbH Made in Germany" without the "licensed trademark of" crap. quite sure it's the Asia edition that has the correct trademarks. i know you already got the Delta model. sucks VFC makes a good version and an absolute garbage version, but you have to be an aware consumer in todays age.
There are no issues with my v3. Unfortunate for you
Swap? 😁
@@BadaBingPictures I just got this beauty 😭
Oh okay. You enjoy it mate.
And happy new gun day. 👍
@BadaBingPictures thank you, man! Hopefully, you have better luck with the vfcs. It's a magical gun
Thanks mate
This is the badest Airsoft Gun i have ever Seen.
Every Dude buy it and rebuy it😂😂😂
This makes me sad
Idk why but yours looks like second hand and not original. mine hk416a5 v3 is more robust than yours 😂
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I thought you have reviewed V3 before?
I had a V3 before, I owned it for roughly 8 month. I fixed everything on it, dust cover, shxtty barrel, shxtty hop, broken bolt lock, and then I sell it. Because it starts to double feed. I AM TIRED OF VFC. And yes, no one should fix things that the company should have done. I've heard Gunsmodify has a marui MWS platform HK416A5. Maybe check it out?
I reviewed the V2 many years ago. I thought I’d try the V3. As it still had the same flaw as the other one, there would’ve been no point in continuing with this one.
The results would have likely been the same.
Sorry to hear of your experience
VFC is definitely a Fatal Attraction.
Hahaha, 2nd Fatal Attraction comment! We’re on a roll.
Time to watch that movie again I think.
hop up test? 👀
I didn’t get that far ahead.
The gun proved it wasn’t fixed from my previous version 2. So it was not worth my time to fix it again and do all the usual reviewing.
H y p e d
Yep unfortunately I had a similar experience with my V3 MK18. The receiver finish was crap, the handguard wasn't any better than an aliexpress clone, the stock was absurdly wobbly and the performance issues were the same as yours too. I sent mine back immediately and got a full refund for it.
I have the VFC MP5, M110, Scar H, 1911, 3 of their glocks and I've had their MP7 and G3 in the past. I haven't had these issues with any of those, it's just that their AR15 patterns are just a bit shit unfortunately.
VFC was good, when they made all their parts in Hong Kong. After they switched to Taiwan, their products went downhill. btw "WE-tech" makes VFC GBB parts.
Like cheap china made, sometimes work, mostly not. Hop up is easily adjust but awful. Just easy to adjust, looks cool as gastube function. But adjustment so little. Overhype reddit product.
I have a bit of a fatal attraction to your content.
And there is the comment! Thank you mate 😂
Glenn Close would be proud haha
@@BadaBingPictures I will always be that one weirdo watching your content, respectfully of course.
You’re comparing a 500€ gun to one close to 1k and expect it to do any better?
I’ve had a gen2 416 and have had no issues with bolt lock when it comes to using gen3 pmags, maybe give that a shot
I know right? £550+ compared to a 1.4k doesn’t make much sense.
Although my GHK M4 bolt locks perfectly, so nothing to prove there. And my TM M4 MWS? ….well I’d still be shooting to bolt lock even now!
My VT 416 was the only other comparable AR GBBR I own. So in fact it made the most sense.
And it did so on magazines that aren’t strictly speaking design for it.
Keep it don’t return
Already gone.
The last 416 I had was exactly the same. So this new V3 had to work properly, as it didn’t I sent it back for a refund. Im not wasting my time covering for VFC if they can’t get it right 6 years later.
@@BadaBingPicturesI found among all gbbrs, if you aim to use it for skirmish or any game, TM ones are the only solution out of the box. Other brands all somehow need to work on
@@BadaBingPictures I have the same one 416a5 but mine is v3 version mag. My VFC’s m733’s bolt catch has already failed… I don’t understand the VFC sometimes. Now I’m currently waiting for their new m16a1 to arrive….
VFC=Very fking cheap
VFC = Very Frustrating Company
This badabing is airsoft crytic, he never enjoy playing airsoft, why? He just always say something negative bout airsoft...the way u played airsoft,no toy can survive
Well that’s the idea of a reviewer, isn’t it? To critique and inform of a products strengths and weaknesses.
Am I supposed to be positive that this HK416A5 is faulty?
That’s why no one interested bout ur reviews, 12 yrs reviewing airsoft you only got 20k followers hahaha
@@augustkrislotino1240 I would hazard a guess that at least 20k people are interested in my reviews. It’s right there on the screen. And that’s an amazing amount.
One day you’ll realise it’s not about winning a popularity contest. It’s about informing, and supporting a community of fellow enthusiasts around you.
Better for you to stop reviewing airsoft, huge help for airsoft community
@@augustkrislotino1240 lol. You silly goose.
Now that I know my videos annoy you, I will enjoy making them even more. Hahah
See you on the next one sweetheart 😘
Vfc is crap