They're definitely fun. I've been running Gmags and G&P Pmags for propane magazines, and I also have some EB Co2s as well. It definitely helps if you trim down the routers by 0.5mm on the GHK mags , if you ask around in the right places you'll see a good way to do that! Helps the action run smoother and keeps the nozzle from gouging out the router. Swapping to a light hammer spring can skyrocket the efficiency as well, in exchange for a lighter trigger!
Once again, thanks for the tips mate. Really appreciate it! Going to do some improvements and look at picking up a lighter hammer spring. Interestingly my eb co2 routers sit quite high. For example engaging the forward assist helps push it over them. Thankfully they won’t get used. The gmags aren’t as much in the line of fire, so to speak.
@@BadaBingPictures Good to hear. Good choice on not using them too anyway, VT has said it is not recommended to run CO2 on the 18mm carriers as it can cause them to bulge with extended use in warmer weather, although in the UK I'm not sure if that's as common of an issue as it would be in TW. The EB tech build quality is certainly nice, though.
Of all the people I knew owning a viper 416, Please do get GHK mags for it, ghk mag itself need a bit filing to fit the Viper, but it’s 100% worth it! Btw congratulations! Glad to see your dream come true, we discussed about it in one of the civi ch‘s video a year ago!
Thanks buddy! Yep, it’s been a dream gun for a while now. Also I have a small collection of GHK mags and been carefully crafting them to slide easily into the 416. I’m surprised they drive the system as well as it does on propane. When I owned an INO back in 2010 it couldn’t perform anywhere near this with the same gas.
Great video! I used to have a Viper Tech myself, but they had horrible QC when I bought mine. I'd strongly recommend replacing the charging handle on yours as soon as possible. The steel latch on this will absolutely destroy your upper where it interfaces. The 6061 aluminium they use is not strong enough to resist the blunt steel latch paired with the very strong recoil spring smashing into the upper every time you rack it. Get something like a Geissele or Raptor WA style charging handle if you can, which use aluminium latches.
Interesting. I remember the one on my VFC HK417 poking a hole through the receiver! Might try and find an aluminium latch. I really prefer the standard charging handles. Thanks man
VFC's early work was a little too gas inefficient for my tastes, but when UMP9 came out in '16, I think they really came into their own, commercially and in performance.
In 2020 they released this. HK MP5A5 V2. Their most accomplished GBB SMG. I think their undisputed masterpiece is this. The way it shoots, so snappy! 😂
Welcome to the vipertech club, great choice. I have a view of them and one of them is the 416 as well. Front heavy but sweet. Enjoy the heck out of it, you won’t break it they are build like tanks. One suggestion if you are into heavy recoil I’d highly recommend doing the devils mod on the ebtech GI mags and get a reel steel buffer the recoil will be so much stronger it will be more crisp and the rate of fire will go up. H1 buffer rate will be around 1200 I believe And super heavy H4 buffer will drop it to around 800 rounds per minute. Been playing for years like that and the Gbbr is loving it no problems with it also the ebtech mags are taking it very well even in 100 plus Fahrenheit / 37 celcius weather but only the GI mags the p mags style one seem not to like the devils mood too much. I’m very excited for you I remember my first vipertech😁
Thanks Tomi. I’m enjoying it so far. I’ve set it up to use propane by installing a soft hammer spring and removing the weights in the carrier. Otherwise it’ll be ruined by the temperatures here. I don’t like co2. Having said that I did buy a bag of 50 capsules for a good price. So at least I get to see what it’s like on the stronger fuel…if only for 50 mag fills.
@@BadaBingPictures my pleasure. Since you don’t like Co2, smart choice with a softer hammer spring. You could get a softer buffer spring too. If the rate of fire would be too slow since it is a heavy bolt you could add a speed buffer return spring. FG Airsoft used to sell it. Im sure you know what that is and for all other that don’t know: A Speed buffer spring is a short lill spring that sits at the end of the buffer tube. When the bolt carrier travels back, at the end it hits that speed buffer spring it compresses it a lill bit and helps the big buffer spring with returning the bolt carrier back home. That would keep your rate of fire still high even when using a much softer buffer spring. It be also much more gas efficient especially with the combination you did using a softer hammer spring. One thing to keep in mind, if you would choose to go down that route. I think you would have to get a new buffer tube. There is something in the back of the 416 vipertech buffer tube obstructing the bolt carrier from traveling all the way back. I couldn’t remove it on my 416 but my mk18 (2012) and m16 (2014) older model they have removable plastic spacers. Quick tip if the desired length of travel is not achieved with those plastic spacer, you can use coins as spacers and get the exact length of travel that you desire.
@@TomiHarley Thanks mate. It’s cycling very much like my old VFC HK416A5. Fairly strong recoil sensation but retaining that crisp snap. I’m really pleased with how it was adaptable for my particular parameters. Yes. I have that nylon spacer in the stock. To be fair I’m alright with it being short-stroked. I tried it without and it’s okay… I think the main thing is getting it to shoot a little bit hotter. As it’s a Japanese import, the speed is low 200’s on propane and 280/290 on co2. It had a screw in reducer in the nozzle tip, but I took it out. I don’t do co2 mainly because of costs. I have several Propane cans that I refill from a tank and all of my gas guns run on that. In my mind if a GBB can’t run on propane to an acceptable degree, it’s not worth my time. It’s not practical to buy into another gas source specifically for one gun. Not when everything else works great..you know?
Great video bro, you inspired me and I bought a viper tech hk416 14.5". Would love to see the videos after a long time using viper tech and share your experience. This gun is really a tank
Thanks, and congratulations on your new VT 416. It’s really next-level kind of stuff, isn’t it? I plan on doing a full review after I’ve built up a good impression of it. Explosive Enterprises have done an excellent series of Viper Tech GBBR’s. If you haven’t seen them already, you really should. They are super informative!
@@BadaBingPictures Very high quality, I bought it for 1700 usd (400 usd shipping cost and bribe...). It's worth it. Instead of adding weight to the bolt carrier, I think you should buy H1 and H2 buffers to play in summer and winter. The use of a tool that screwed into the bolt carrier made me concerned that it would rotate out and get stuck in the buffer with the tremendous recoil of the VT. It's really a bad idea to put the rotary tool on the back of the bolt carrier. I bought VT Pmag, if only VT was HK's magazine stanag instead of Colt's stanag. I love the curve of HK's stanag
I will buy VT m16a4 next time. If I hadn't watched your video, I would have been hesitant to buy VT because of its expensive price (But overall still better than HAO Mws kit)
@@BadaBingPictures Yep, usesrs use to file bit in inside the magwell to ease the insert of the GHK mags, but once thats done, it works perfect as I heard. GHK mags are a God gift as you already know pal
@@Holanduzo I took a file to two mags individually. Bit a of ball ache to do, but I think it’s for the best. And they still work in my GHK so it’s alright. They currently have issues locking open with one bb left over but shouldn’t be much of an issue. Oh yep! Besides the feedlips they’re good mags.
@@BadaBingPictures i filed to a round shape the feedlips and after an intensive year of use they still in perfect shape with no cracks, also filling with bbs is a much smoother job now
Need to be aware of internal maintenance, especially for the hop & nozzle. Dont use EB mag but GHK mag is definitely better. Also the slim stock is commercial spec, that is why it will wobbling. i hade VI46 before but has too much issues. So i sold it and get TM 416 kit instead
You said that you'll put tape on the outside of the buffer tube... try putting the tape on the inside of the stock instead. It's a bit harder, but it's worth it. An even better solution is a thin strip of plastic that you superglue. I'ts the same principle as with the tape, but you don't get the nasty stickyness
Awesome vid my good man. I'd swear that little tool is to adjust the hopup (accessed through the dust cover as usual) and not the bolt at the rear of the handguard
Thank you Mr Collins! It’s a lovely little piece. Yep, it’s for the screw on the Handguard pin. The hop up adjusts underneath it on the barrel nut. It’s a wheel very similar to WA/GHK M4’s Hop Up.
I hope that you'll be pleased, I've had a few friends who bought Vipertechs and they ended being exactly as some Systema users : their sh*t would never work but they would not admit that they had paid too much for a useless piece of kit... Thanks for the video..
Really nice unboxing and quick overview of the VT, they are the pinnacle of airsoft gbbrs. You also hit the nail on the head about part availability in the UK.
Ummm I believe the vt 416 come standard with the 18 mm bolt, which have thinner walls and are not meant to be used with co2. Direct words from viper tech
The 18mm nozzle isn’t designed for co2. As this one came from Japan, co2 is the only gas they can have that’ll drive the working parts. Strange the shop didn’t swap out the carrier for a 16mm version. I only use propane so it’s fine.
Standard VT or EBTech mags are poor quality and low gas capacity. You can use GHK AR mags on the VT but you need to do some shimming. There's also other mods you can do to winterize the rifle. Like a lighter hammer spring and a lighter buffer spring. GHK Mags are far superior in gas capacity, 17grams vs the OEM 10grams. I live near the VT factory and know some of the employees so if you want to DM me for more info you can.
my old VT MK18 was the only airsoft ive owned that felt like my real AR15 (owned GBLS, WII, MWS, VFC...etc) fyi my trigger pins snapped after a few 1000 rds. It wasnt evident until i replaced it with real steel anti rotation pins but just something to be aware of. If i had to get one again id devil hunter mod the magazines
Ive been doing abit of research into these before coming across your video, great video BTW! There's very little information out there regarding the actual obtaining of the rifle though these its sounding more like they're near unobtainable for us Brits if these Taiwan shops won't even answer your emails plus the lengths you had to go through to acquire one. I wonder if any of the HK stops would act as a middle man for ordering these? WGC etc
You can always ask them. I got in touch with UNCo and they said no. KicBB in TW and they said no. Kui said no. And a handful of others. CRW would be your best bet as they used to stock VT’s and now they’re U.K. London based. If you reach out to them and you might have some success. Ultimately the whole process is a major pain in the ass. Thanks for watching.
@@BadaBingPictures That's for the reply back! Yeah if they've said no to you I don't think I'd have any more luck. . Checked online forums + reddit etc for any dealings with some of the Taiwan based stores are fairly old now, certainly pre brexit times CRW could be worth a shot now they're in London. Basically I'm after a high quality "retro" AR and the only options are the stock VT's or the TM MWS and fitted with the aftermarket kits (6061 receiver, steel barrel, etc) I'd imagine the TM would actually be cheaper even though the receivers alone are a good £500+ I've watched your videos and you do seem to rate the MWS very highly even if the takedown isn't quite as realistic as some of the other brands. VT would be my top choice but if they are not a realistic option regards to the availability I could well be better off with the MWS.
@@James-dt1kl their retro line of AR’s are beautiful. Forged receivers are basically the best you can get…although I have to say they are a bit overkill for airsoft. If you’re looking for realism and retro flavourings why not look to VFC? They have recently put out M733’s and an XM177. Also I believe they are branching out to other variants like full sized M16’s. They are like the realistic counterpart to the Marui M4 series. The feedback among the community has been very strong indeed! Action Airsoft Online Store is a great TW shop. And yes, I really do rate the TM. Unrealistic internals but it’s a skirmishing powerhouse right from the box. It is one of the finest GBBR’s you can buy.
Hey Mr. Bing, awesome to see you this lucky! Wish you so much fun! 😊😊😊 Early St. Nicholas present 😋😋 I'm also enjoying this feeling with my - unplayed, just plinked - mws right now! Small questions: which aftermarket nozzlespring? How much % is needed? How about your buffer? Still using stock plastic one? Josch
Hey! Well this would’ve been a slightly late Birthday present 😂 Ahh yes. The MWS is a masterful GBBR! Errmmm. Don’t know about the percentage of upgraded nozzle spring. I still need to replace my UAC spring that broke two years ago! My original buffer is still bouncing. No complaints here!
It makes me warm and fuzzy to see you get hold of this and be so clearly cheerful with it 😊🤗 I still need to go visit them, along with too many others. Fucking day job getting in the way... "very stiff to withdraw" Hurr. You know your audience 😜😏 Dude, if you need stuff let me know, I've sent packages back within 3-7 days recently 😉
Thanks, bro! I am over the moon with it. You know how some airsoft guns can compromise on the looks ever so slightly? Like elements don’t look as they do on the real thing…well this VT has to be the best reproduction I’ve owned. So in that regard it’s like a bolt of lightning striking many times over. Thanks mate! Wish I wouldn’t known that before setting up an order for a softer hammer spring 🤦♂️ hah Absolutely, go see them. Would be excellent to see future pics and videos from inside their skunkworks.
Hey Badabing, nice to see you again! Soooooooo, if you think a very M4-ish gun deserves so much trouble 😛 But to be fair, as much as I'm not an M4 fan I bought myself a WE 416, just to see if I can make it as cold resistant as the TM MP7 😀Now I'm chasing down parts. Also, if you'd keep the CO2 mags just for the review, it would be nice. To compare it to propane. I have the GHK AUG which I use with CO2 mags and they do two mags worth of BBs with one 12g capsule. I like how CO2 runs but not the fiddling which you mentioned too. On the bright side you can't under or overfill the mag. Have you ever though about doing the DH mod on your GHK AK mags? It's supposed to be cheaper that way. In your currency it costs me about 45 pence for 60 BBs with the CO2 capsules, that's pretty high but from what I've heard the DH mod is also not a solution to everything. PS: I don't get the Paul Allen reference.
There he is! I remember AR’s aren’t really your thing. And that’s okay. I used a WE 416 on a milsim game and the gas key broke off in the opening shots and jammed up the whole gun! I think I have the video on this channel somewhere. One of my first vids Yeah I’ll keep hold of those co2 mags for a while until I see what they operate the system like and record data. I bet that AUG runs nice on co2 as well! Nope. Never wanted to try DHM my AKM. I will only use propane as I do my own refilling from a big 11kg tank. And I use all my GBB’s on propane. For me it’s perfect. Cheap, strong and dry. Paul Allen is reference to the 2000 movie American Psycho, starring Christian Bale. Great movie! So quotable. You should check it out.
@@BadaBingPictures Hopefully WE has improved their 416. For example if you can believe the WE FB group, feeding (magwell alignment) is not an issue on newer Mk17s (Scar Heavy), but it was on mine back in 2019. Just like how the top screws on the BCG never came loose on mine but it was an issue in the first batches. As soon as I move into my house I'll also get a propane tank, which should be next spring, I have all the required hardware except for the tank itself, I don't want to keep a propane tank in a flat. But I like the CO2 capsules too, I think I'll get a 551 too when I find one inside the EU and run it on CO2. Sometimes even our autumns get really cold. I will definitely watch the movie you recommended.
Looks rock sold!!! I am glad u get to have top hi-end gbbr. I happened to have chance to see person to person and touch viper tech mk18mkd1 Man I am telling you it was just different from other brands gbbr... it was just from another world. Perhaps TM, GHK and even VFC might out perform Viper but it doesn't matter, you nust have to own one... But I was surpirsed that it works pretty smoothly with propane gas in ur video....can't wait to see your performance review...until then have wonderful days.
I really like all the videos BadaBing produced, and I really don't want to be an ass here, but I do think people should know this. If look carefully at the receiver ( obvious actually ), the ribs on both sides of the magwell, the machining is wrong ( looks different from the real deal ) just like pretty much every single 416 airsoft guns out there except for the marui NGRS & "forged" version of the vfc ( twice the price, not zparts ). I know viper makes good looking ARs, but only limited to their old school style ARs. Legend has it that they bought colt's old A1 & A2 tooling for the receivers so that they can make the most realistic airsoft ARs, but that doesn't apply to their more modern ARs. I understand that BadaBing really likes this 416, the anodizing is amazing and the build is solid ( have played with it for a while myself ) but in my mind, with the same amount of money, a more correct version of the vfc is out there and the bolt is not short-stroked from the factory. Disclaimer, I do not like vfc, but their forged 416 is literally the most realistic 416 out there.
No worries man. It’s good to hear about the inaccuracies. I wouldn’t have known otherwise. I had a VFC forged 416 but due to shipping restrictions I never got it, and then went out of stock. So I had the next best thing, and as long as it functions well I’ll be happy with the decision. Cheers bud
It’s all ready to run co2 as it is. I’ll only use it with propane. Zero point in buying different gas just for one gun. Others have used these in winter with propane and it does just fine. ruclips.net/video/FWBQEGOulpE/видео.html
Well, I understand why Viper tech never sold the product in the UK. They are not licensed by Umarex, and HK can sue Viper tech if these are widely sold in Europe. Badabing, could you please buy a real steel 7075 upper receiver and try to see if it fits the viper tech? Like @ExplosiveEnterprises used m16a1 real steel upper receiver on his xm177
It’s a beautiful replica but, after buying the vfc hk416a5 version with all its ambi goodness I don’t see myself investing in a hk416D. That being said, another great video as always.
Dude I swear, my wallet is already hating me, because of this channel :D Only thing that bothers me a bit is that they dont have NPAS, which is quite mandatory from where I play :D Nice video, again. Its truly a shame, that theyre not more "expanded".
😂 If you can go through VT directly they can set it up exactly as you want. If you don’t speak the lingo you can either try using Google translate or go through a guy called Civi. He can set up the order for you in exchange for a fee, but he’s very popular and it might take a while.
RS 416s were bad quality guns. The bolt carriers rubbed hard and you had to constantly teardown and clean the shavings. That's why it was dropped from mil use. If VT was as realistic as possible, I bet they shave their BCs as well... Hence the polish 🤣
@@BadaBingPictures yeah, it was they first introduced them i believe. HK rectified it fast, but once the US Army gets a bad taste, there's no saving it.
@@BadaBingPictures It certainly works, but why turn down the fun 😏 With black gas the feeling is completely different, the same with the sound. In my MWS and my GHKi only use black and red gas also in the summer, neither my MWS nor ghk have been damaged in the years I have used them :) 😁😁
Money!! Airsoft gas is ridiculously expensive for the little amount you get. I have a large propane 11kg tank that I refill smaller cans and it’s wayyyyy cheaper. I always have gas on hand and that leaves me to spend money I save on other things. I’m super happy with how it performs in the guns too 😊
@@BadaBingPictures Good point and yes it is a bit more expensive. I just personally think that when I pay top dollar for a premium gun, I also want a premium experience and I really think that there is a big difference between using black gas or green gas, not on all guns, on mws there is first difference below 15 degrees Celsius, but my GHK with full metal is like day and night even on a hot summer day :) same for my WE
Yeah u can understand why systena would charge 1500 for a replica guys dye to the electronics and tech but a gbbr shouldn't cost more than a real ar that has better materials Am I wrong ? Mws is still the peak in gbbr performance
They're definitely fun. I've been running Gmags and G&P Pmags for propane magazines, and I also have some EB Co2s as well.
It definitely helps if you trim down the routers by 0.5mm on the GHK mags , if you ask around in the right places you'll see a good way to do that! Helps the action run smoother and keeps the nozzle from gouging out the router. Swapping to a light hammer spring can skyrocket the efficiency as well, in exchange for a lighter trigger!
Once again, thanks for the tips mate. Really appreciate it! Going to do some improvements and look at picking up a lighter hammer spring.
Interestingly my eb co2 routers sit quite high. For example engaging the forward assist helps push it over them. Thankfully they won’t get used. The gmags aren’t as much in the line of fire, so to speak.
@@BadaBingPictures Good to hear. Good choice on not using them too anyway, VT has said it is not recommended to run CO2 on the 18mm carriers as it can cause them to bulge with extended use in warmer weather, although in the UK I'm not sure if that's as common of an issue as it would be in TW. The EB tech build quality is certainly nice, though.
Look at the subtle off black coloring, the tasteful thickness of it, oh my god it even has a trademark...
Impressive, very nice.
The video we didn’t know we wanted, but the video we need!
So glad I don’t got work today so I can enjoy this masterpiece of a review without being rushed😂🙏🏾
Haha. Nice one!
Well, not really a review. Just a guy being wayyy too excited. HK gun porn really
Thank you for your support and love
You are welcome. 👍
It’s a high quality product.
Of all the people I knew owning a viper 416, Please do get GHK mags for it, ghk mag itself need a bit filing to fit the Viper, but it’s 100% worth it!
Btw congratulations! Glad to see your dream come true, we discussed about it in one of the civi ch‘s video a year ago!
Thanks buddy! Yep, it’s been a dream gun for a while now. Also I have a small collection of GHK mags and been carefully crafting them to slide easily into the 416. I’m surprised they drive the system as well as it does on propane.
When I owned an INO back in 2010 it couldn’t perform anywhere near this with the same gas.
Look forward to hearing what you have to say about this fine bit of engineering.
Great video! I used to have a Viper Tech myself, but they had horrible QC when I bought mine.
I'd strongly recommend replacing the charging handle on yours as soon as possible. The steel latch on this will absolutely destroy your upper where it interfaces. The 6061 aluminium they use is not strong enough to resist the blunt steel latch paired with the very strong recoil spring smashing into the upper every time you rack it. Get something like a Geissele or Raptor WA style charging handle if you can, which use aluminium latches.
Interesting. I remember the one on my VFC HK417 poking a hole through the receiver!
Might try and find an aluminium latch. I really prefer the standard charging handles.
Thanks man
You can get in touch with Edwin from CRW Airsoft. He used to be the distributor for Viper in HK but has recently moved his business to the UK.
Incredible attention to detail with that Sean Connery impression.
Yeshh!
Given the chansh I’d do a whole video shpeaking like thish…
@@BadaBingPictures whatever you do, don’t quote that interview where he says he says it’s okay to shhlap a woman!
“I don’t think itsh good to shlap a woman. It depensh entirely on the shurcumshtances and if it meritsh it.”
VFC's early work was a little too gas inefficient for my tastes, but when UMP9 came out in '16, I think they really came into their own, commercially and in performance.
In 2020 they released this. HK MP5A5 V2. Their most accomplished GBB SMG. I think their undisputed masterpiece is this. The way it shoots, so snappy!
😂
Welcome to the vipertech club, great choice. I have a view of them and one of them is the 416 as well. Front heavy but sweet. Enjoy the heck out of it, you won’t break it they are build like tanks. One suggestion if you are into heavy recoil I’d highly recommend doing the devils mod on the ebtech GI mags and get a reel steel buffer the recoil will be so much stronger it will be more crisp and the rate of fire will go up.
H1 buffer rate will be around 1200 I believe
And super heavy H4 buffer will drop it to around 800 rounds per minute.
Been playing for years like that and the Gbbr is loving it no problems with it also the ebtech mags are taking it very well even in 100 plus Fahrenheit / 37 celcius weather but only the GI mags the p mags style one seem not to like the devils mood too much.
I’m very excited for you I remember my first vipertech😁
where did you get it? could you send the link please
Thanks Tomi.
I’m enjoying it so far. I’ve set it up to use propane by installing a soft hammer spring and removing the weights in the carrier. Otherwise it’ll be ruined by the temperatures here.
I don’t like co2. Having said that I did buy a bag of 50 capsules for a good price. So at least I get to see what it’s like on the stronger fuel…if only for 50 mag fills.
@@BadaBingPictures my pleasure.
Since you don’t like Co2, smart choice with a softer hammer spring. You could get a softer buffer spring too. If the rate of fire would be too slow since it is a heavy bolt you could add a speed buffer return spring. FG Airsoft used to sell it.
Im sure you know what that is and for all other that don’t know:
A Speed buffer spring is a short lill spring that sits at the end of the buffer tube. When the bolt carrier travels back, at the end it hits that speed buffer spring it compresses it a lill bit and helps the big buffer spring with returning the bolt carrier back home. That would keep your rate of fire still high even when using a much softer buffer spring. It be also much more gas efficient especially with the combination you did using a softer hammer spring.
One thing to keep in mind, if you would choose to go down that route. I think you would have to get a new buffer tube. There is something in the back of the 416 vipertech buffer tube obstructing the bolt carrier from traveling all the way back. I couldn’t remove it on my 416 but my mk18 (2012) and m16 (2014) older model they have removable plastic spacers.
Quick tip if the desired length of travel is not achieved with those plastic spacer, you can use coins as spacers and get the exact length of travel that you desire.
@@BadaBingPictures May I ask why you do not like Co2?
@@TomiHarley Thanks mate.
It’s cycling very much like my old VFC HK416A5. Fairly strong recoil sensation but retaining that crisp snap. I’m really pleased with how it was adaptable for my particular parameters.
Yes. I have that nylon spacer in the stock. To be fair I’m alright with it being short-stroked.
I tried it without and it’s okay…
I think the main thing is getting it to shoot a little bit hotter. As it’s a Japanese import, the speed is low 200’s on propane and 280/290 on co2. It had a screw in reducer in the nozzle tip, but I took it out.
I don’t do co2 mainly because of costs. I have several Propane cans that I refill from a tank and all of my gas guns run on that. In my mind if a GBB can’t run on propane to an acceptable degree, it’s not worth my time. It’s not practical to buy into another gas source specifically for one gun. Not when everything else works great..you know?
I am envious, such a beautiful piece.
Great video bro, you inspired me and I bought a viper tech hk416 14.5". Would love to see the videos after a long time using viper tech and share your experience. This gun is really a tank
Thanks, and congratulations on your new VT 416. It’s really next-level kind of stuff, isn’t it?
I plan on doing a full review after I’ve built up a good impression of it. Explosive Enterprises have done an excellent series of Viper Tech GBBR’s. If you haven’t seen them already, you really should. They are super informative!
@@BadaBingPictures Very high quality, I bought it for 1700 usd (400 usd shipping cost and bribe...). It's worth it. Instead of adding weight to the bolt carrier, I think you should buy H1 and H2 buffers to play in summer and winter. The use of a tool that screwed into the bolt carrier made me concerned that it would rotate out and get stuck in the buffer with the tremendous recoil of the VT. It's really a bad idea to put the rotary tool on the back of the bolt carrier. I bought VT Pmag, if only VT was HK's magazine stanag instead of Colt's stanag. I love the curve of HK's stanag
I will buy VT m16a4 next time. If I hadn't watched your video, I would have been hesitant to buy VT because of its expensive price (But overall still better than HAO Mws kit)
Try using GHK mags, many users of Viper use them with no issues
Mine needed filing to be able to slide in. They need some more tuning for a smooth insert and to drop freely.
Other than that they cycle okay.
@@BadaBingPictures Yep, usesrs use to file bit in inside the magwell to ease the insert of the GHK mags, but once thats done, it works perfect as I heard. GHK mags are a God gift as you already know pal
@@Holanduzo I took a file to two mags individually. Bit a of ball ache to do, but I think it’s for the best. And they still work in my GHK so it’s alright.
They currently have issues locking open with one bb left over but shouldn’t be much of an issue. Oh yep! Besides the feedlips they’re good mags.
@@BadaBingPictures there’s a fix in the modifications tutorials section on the server
@@BadaBingPictures i filed to a round shape the feedlips and after an intensive year of use they still in perfect shape with no cracks, also filling with bbs is a much smoother job now
Yet another amazing video. I want this gun now.
Hah, well it was just me being overly excited about the new rifle..rather than have anything informative to say!
The review will be better..maybe
Need to be aware of internal maintenance, especially for the hop & nozzle. Dont use EB mag but GHK mag is definitely better. Also the slim stock is commercial spec, that is why it will wobbling. i hade VI46 before but has too much issues. So i sold it and get TM 416 kit instead
The Viper series is a luxury item, but parts supply is in short supply in Japan. Series expectation, GHK release.

You said that you'll put tape on the outside of the buffer tube... try putting the tape on the inside of the stock instead.
It's a bit harder, but it's worth it. An even better solution is a thin strip of plastic that you superglue. I'ts the same principle as with the tape, but you don't get the nasty stickyness
Awesome vid my good man. I'd swear that little tool is to adjust the hopup (accessed through the dust cover as usual) and not the bolt at the rear of the handguard
Thank you Mr Collins!
It’s a lovely little piece. Yep, it’s for the screw on the Handguard pin. The hop up adjusts underneath it on the barrel nut. It’s a wheel very similar to WA/GHK M4’s Hop Up.
I hope that you'll be pleased, I've had a few friends who bought Vipertechs and they ended being exactly as some Systema users : their sh*t would never work but they would not admit that they had paid too much for a useless piece of kit... Thanks for the video..
Really nice unboxing and quick overview of the VT, they are the pinnacle of airsoft gbbrs. You also hit the nail on the head about part availability in the UK.
Ummm I believe the vt 416 come standard with the 18 mm bolt, which have thinner walls and are not meant to be used with co2. Direct words from viper tech
The 18mm nozzle isn’t designed for co2. As this one came from Japan, co2 is the only gas they can have that’ll drive the working parts. Strange the shop didn’t swap out the carrier for a 16mm version. I only use propane so it’s fine.
Nice Osama Killer! For the stock wobble, You might be able to put a RS HK Buffer tube in her and it should eliminate the wobble.
Can't wait Bing!
Thats awesome!!! It should work fine with GHK MAGS!!!!
Standard VT or EBTech mags are poor quality and low gas capacity. You can use GHK AR mags on the VT but you need to do some shimming. There's also other mods you can do to winterize the rifle. Like a lighter hammer spring and a lighter buffer spring. GHK Mags are far superior in gas capacity, 17grams vs the OEM 10grams. I live near the VT factory and know some of the employees so if you want to DM me for more info you can.
my old VT MK18 was the only airsoft ive owned that felt like my real AR15 (owned GBLS, WII, MWS, VFC...etc) fyi my trigger pins snapped after a few 1000 rds. It wasnt evident until i replaced it with real steel anti rotation pins but just something to be aware of. If i had to get one again id devil hunter mod the magazines
Ive been doing abit of research into these before coming across your video, great video BTW! There's very little information out there regarding the actual obtaining of the rifle though these its sounding more like they're near unobtainable for us Brits if these Taiwan shops won't even answer your emails plus the lengths you had to go through to acquire one.
I wonder if any of the HK stops would act as a middle man for ordering these? WGC etc
You can always ask them. I got in touch with UNCo and they said no. KicBB in TW and they said no. Kui said no. And a handful of others.
CRW would be your best bet as they used to stock VT’s and now they’re U.K. London based.
If you reach out to them and you might have some success. Ultimately the whole process is a major pain in the ass.
Thanks for watching.
@@BadaBingPictures
That's for the reply back!
Yeah if they've said no to you I don't think I'd have any more luck. . Checked online forums + reddit etc for any dealings with some of the Taiwan based stores are fairly old now, certainly pre brexit times
CRW could be worth a shot now they're in London.
Basically I'm after a high quality "retro" AR and the only options are the stock VT's or the TM MWS and fitted with the aftermarket kits (6061 receiver, steel barrel, etc)
I'd imagine the TM would actually be cheaper even though the receivers alone are a good £500+
I've watched your videos and you do seem to rate the MWS very highly even if the takedown isn't quite as realistic as some of the other brands.
VT would be my top choice but if they are not a realistic option regards to the availability I could well be better off with the MWS.
@@James-dt1kl their retro line of AR’s are beautiful. Forged receivers are basically the best you can get…although I have to say they are a bit overkill for airsoft.
If you’re looking for realism and retro flavourings why not look to VFC? They have recently put out M733’s and an XM177. Also I believe they are branching out to other variants like full sized M16’s. They are like the realistic counterpart to the Marui M4 series.
The feedback among the community has been very strong indeed! Action Airsoft Online Store is a great TW shop.
And yes, I really do rate the TM. Unrealistic internals but it’s a skirmishing powerhouse right from the box. It is one of the finest GBBR’s you can buy.
That thing definitely needs an EOTech
I’d love another EOTech to put on this. I shouldn’t have sold my 512!
Hey Mr. Bing,
awesome to see you this lucky! Wish you so much fun! 😊😊😊
Early St. Nicholas present 😋😋
I'm also enjoying this feeling with my - unplayed, just plinked - mws right now!
Small questions: which aftermarket nozzlespring? How much % is needed?
How about your buffer? Still using stock plastic one?
Josch
Hey!
Well this would’ve been a slightly late Birthday present 😂
Ahh yes. The MWS is a masterful GBBR!
Errmmm. Don’t know about the percentage of upgraded nozzle spring. I still need to replace my UAC spring that broke two years ago!
My original buffer is still bouncing. No complaints here!
@@BadaBingPictures That’s the spirit 😂 same with MWS!
Gracie then I will try :-))
Ohhh my lord!!!
Oh, you got the small box of chocolate!
Could you try and see if some parts are compatible with VFC 416, like the bolt for example, Cheers!
Nope. I don’t own a VFC 416. Used to, but that was a few years ago.
"Oh my god, it even has a watermark."
It makes me warm and fuzzy to see you get hold of this and be so clearly cheerful with it 😊🤗
I still need to go visit them, along with too many others. Fucking day job getting in the way...
"very stiff to withdraw"
Hurr. You know your audience 😜😏
Dude, if you need stuff let me know,
I've sent packages back within 3-7 days recently 😉
Thanks, bro!
I am over the moon with it. You know how some airsoft guns can compromise on the looks ever so slightly? Like elements don’t look as they do on the real thing…well this VT has to be the best reproduction I’ve owned. So in that regard it’s like a bolt of lightning striking many times over.
Thanks mate! Wish I wouldn’t known that before setting up an order for a softer hammer spring 🤦♂️ hah
Absolutely, go see them. Would be excellent to see future pics and videos from inside their skunkworks.
Hey Badabing, nice to see you again!
Soooooooo, if you think a very M4-ish gun deserves so much trouble 😛 But to be fair, as much as I'm not an M4 fan I bought myself a WE 416, just to see if I can make it as cold resistant as the TM MP7 😀Now I'm chasing down parts.
Also, if you'd keep the CO2 mags just for the review, it would be nice. To compare it to propane. I have the GHK AUG which I use with CO2 mags and they do two mags worth of BBs with one 12g capsule. I like how CO2 runs but not the fiddling which you mentioned too. On the bright side you can't under or overfill the mag. Have you ever though about doing the DH mod on your GHK AK mags? It's supposed to be cheaper that way. In your currency it costs me about 45 pence for 60 BBs with the CO2 capsules, that's pretty high but from what I've heard the DH mod is also not a solution to everything.
PS: I don't get the Paul Allen reference.
There he is!
I remember AR’s aren’t really your thing. And that’s okay.
I used a WE 416 on a milsim game and the gas key broke off in the opening shots and jammed up the whole gun! I think I have the video on this channel somewhere. One of my first vids
Yeah I’ll keep hold of those co2 mags for a while until I see what they operate the system like and record data.
I bet that AUG runs nice on co2 as well!
Nope. Never wanted to try DHM my AKM. I will only use propane as I do my own refilling from a big 11kg tank. And I use all my GBB’s on propane. For me it’s perfect. Cheap, strong and dry.
Paul Allen is reference to the 2000 movie American Psycho, starring Christian Bale.
Great movie! So quotable. You should check it out.
@@BadaBingPictures Hopefully WE has improved their 416. For example if you can believe the WE FB group, feeding (magwell alignment) is not an issue on newer Mk17s (Scar Heavy), but it was on mine back in 2019. Just like how the top screws on the BCG never came loose on mine but it was an issue in the first batches.
As soon as I move into my house I'll also get a propane tank, which should be next spring, I have all the required hardware except for the tank itself, I don't want to keep a propane tank in a flat. But I like the CO2 capsules too, I think I'll get a 551 too when I find one inside the EU and run it on CO2. Sometimes even our autumns get really cold.
I will definitely watch the movie you recommended.
Im curious, is the HK slimline stock accurate for the HK416D? I thought HK only put the slimline stocks on the 416a5.
It’s not what’s fitted to an out of the box ‘D’ model. Those original stocks I hated. I got annoyed with bashing my jaw on those giant sling loops.
@@BadaBingPictures oh i see. I thought u were putting the HK stock for real world accuracy haha
@@totalfailforfun4721 Hah, nope. I just really like the look of the slimline. Plus it’s comfortable and lightweight
Looks rock sold!!! I am glad u get to have top hi-end gbbr.
I happened to have chance to see person to person and touch viper tech mk18mkd1
Man I am telling you it was just different from other brands gbbr... it was just from another world.
Perhaps TM, GHK and even VFC might out perform Viper but it doesn't matter, you nust have to own one...
But I was surpirsed that it works pretty smoothly with propane gas in ur video....can't wait to see your performance review...until then have wonderful days.
Get that pistol grip changed asap! 😅
It’s on the to-do list!
I really like all the videos BadaBing produced, and I really don't want to be an ass here, but I do think people should know this.
If look carefully at the receiver ( obvious actually ), the ribs on both sides of the magwell, the machining is wrong ( looks different from the real deal ) just like pretty much every single 416 airsoft guns out there except for the marui NGRS & "forged" version of the vfc ( twice the price, not zparts ).
I know viper makes good looking ARs, but only limited to their old school style ARs. Legend has it that they bought colt's old A1 & A2 tooling for the receivers so that they can make the most realistic airsoft ARs, but that doesn't apply to their more modern ARs.
I understand that BadaBing really likes this 416, the anodizing is amazing and the build is solid ( have played with it for a while myself ) but in my mind, with the same amount of money, a more correct version of the vfc is out there and the bolt is not short-stroked from the factory.
Disclaimer, I do not like vfc, but their forged 416 is literally the most realistic 416 out there.
No worries man. It’s good to hear about the inaccuracies. I wouldn’t have known otherwise.
I had a VFC forged 416 but due to shipping restrictions I never got it, and then went out of stock. So I had the next best thing, and as long as it functions well I’ll be happy with the decision. Cheers bud
@@BadaBingPictures That was a bit unfortunate, but hey, I’m glad that you’re happy with your gun!
@@billythesawlee7097 would’ve been great to see the V3 VFC system and look at doing a follow up to my earlier A5 review. Alas, that money is gone! Hah
The short stroke is only a plastic buffer in the buffer tube, takes all of 15 seconds to remove
@@noexfil4u643 But you can't fix where the bolt hold is
Did you buy it second hand ?
That orange tape is to make it "California compliant." All the milsim guys just rip the tape off when they get their GBBR
Oh man 😮
Can you tell us which proxy you used to get the gun?
are you gonna be getting co2 nozzle/mags to accomodate the terrible british cold weather we have to endure?
It’s all ready to run co2 as it is. I’ll only use it with propane. Zero point in buying different gas just for one gun.
Others have used these in winter with propane and it does just fine.
ruclips.net/video/FWBQEGOulpE/видео.html
Well, I understand why Viper tech never sold the product in the UK. They are not licensed by Umarex, and HK can sue Viper tech if these are widely sold in Europe. Badabing, could you please buy a real steel 7075 upper receiver and try to see if it fits the viper tech? Like @ExplosiveEnterprises used m16a1 real steel upper receiver on his xm177
I don’t think I’d be able to obtain those here. They get a bit funny about pressure bearing firearm parts, so it might be illegal.
So which magazine work in this bad boy?
WA spec mags, ghk. G&p. Viper. Ebtech. Golden eagle etc
FM this pretty 😍
It’s a beautiful replica but, after buying the vfc hk416a5 version with all its ambi goodness I don’t see myself investing in a hk416D. That being said, another great video as always.
Get the ghk g17
Nah. I’m happy with my TM G19.
@@BadaBingPictures aighty pal, but what i will say about the ghk g17 is that the trigger pull need some tweak and the access to the hopup is shitty.
Dude I swear, my wallet is already hating me, because of this channel :D Only thing that bothers me a bit is that they dont have NPAS, which is quite mandatory from where I play :D Nice video, again. Its truly a shame, that theyre not more "expanded".
😂
If you can go through VT directly they can set it up exactly as you want. If you don’t speak the lingo you can either try using Google translate or go through a guy called Civi. He can set up the order for you in exchange for a fee, but he’s very popular and it might take a while.
About the forward assist on real steel ARs. This quick 40 second vid explains it best in my opinion. ruclips.net/video/N60tjBa6OCc/видео.html
Looks like a cerakote vfc imo. No hate tho. Beautiful piece of art there!
CRW airsoft.
If you want VT parts in UK, you could try contacting CRW airsoft.
CRW Airsoft was shut down from 2 mths ago
@@stevenwang6965 It’s reopened in UK
...and then it´s shortstroked -.-
Vfc v3 better
Lol no
Cast receiver goes crunch
RS 416s were bad quality guns. The bolt carriers rubbed hard and you had to constantly teardown and clean the shavings. That's why it was dropped from mil use. If VT was as realistic as possible, I bet they shave their BCs as well... Hence the polish 🤣
Hmmm never heard that before.
@@BadaBingPictures yeah, it was they first introduced them i believe. HK rectified it fast, but once the US Army gets a bad taste, there's no saving it.
it deserves Black gas or CO2 😜😜
Nahhh.
If it won’t run on propane it’s no good to me. 😂
@@BadaBingPictures It certainly works, but why turn down the fun 😏 With black gas the feeling is completely different, the same with the sound.
In my MWS and my GHKi only use black and red gas also in the summer, neither my MWS nor ghk have been damaged in the years I have used them :) 😁😁
Money!! Airsoft gas is ridiculously expensive for the little amount you get.
I have a large propane 11kg tank that I refill smaller cans and it’s wayyyyy cheaper. I always have gas on hand and that leaves me to spend money I save on other things.
I’m super happy with how it performs in the guns too 😊
@@BadaBingPictures Good point and yes it is a bit more expensive.
I just personally think that when I pay top dollar for a premium gun, I also want a premium experience and I really think that there is a big difference between using black gas or green gas, not on all guns, on mws there is first difference below 15 degrees Celsius, but my GHK with full metal is like day and night even on a hot summer day :) same for my WE
Could buy a real ar for half the price bit of a joke
Yeah especially in the uk 👍 this is like saying you can have a motorbike for the price of x bike. Apples to oranges
Not a full auto one, hell not even a semi auto 416….people always compare the most cheap/different rs gun to airsoft
Yeah u can understand why systena would charge 1500 for a replica guys dye to the electronics and tech but a gbbr shouldn't cost more than a real ar that has better materials
Am I wrong ?
Mws is still the peak in gbbr performance
@@modoudrammeh again, comparing a semi ar to a full auto gbb that is not massed produced…literally brain dead moment
@@opairsoft8100
Yeah, comparing a toy that's more expensive than a weapon that can contain a explosion..definitely brain dead...
14:06 That looks like it could be the Zparts bolt.