HOW TO Bag and Strike Thin Brick
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- In this video you will pick up some tips and techniques about bagging and striking thin brick. This video shows the standard way to bag in mortar, use a grout bag and different types of striking.
If you would like to learn more about mixing up mortar, we have a video for that as well.
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Great video! I've been looking for the different ways to strike the brick afterwards. I want an "old world" look... very messy look, but wasn't sure how to do it. And though that was probably not your intention, when I saw what the trowel version looked like, I was like, "YES! That's IT!" So thank you for this video!
@@MilitaryTVgirl We’re glad this was helpful! Thank you for the feedback!
This is a great video. A lesson in many ways of striking and finishing brick. Thanks!!
Joints are much to big .?
Great tutorial, thanks
Hi , can I use yellow sand and cement for brick pointing or is it better to use already mixed up grout in a bag?
Thanks again,
Kevin
Kevin, You would need to make sure you use the proper mix between the color, sand, portland and lime. I prefer to use a premix as I am not comfortable mixing my own.
I have a strange feeling it's not as easy as he makes it look
Trust your feelings. It really is a pain! However, these tips and tricks will help for sure.
Great video. Thanks. I wonder I strong the mortar from the bag is? Would they crack easily since nothing (like a mesh) is holding them up?
Great question! Any time you are applying thin brick, it is best practice to have some form of support system behind the brick to support the thin brick, yes. We used our Speedymason brick lath with polymer-modified mortar to stick the thin bricks before bagging and striking. The joints have a high probability of not cracking because of the rigidity of the thin bricks adhered to the panel.
@@speedymason Nice! Thanks so much for the advice :)
@@silverswan8 You’re welcome!
thanks man, q about the mortar, is it regular cement with builder sand? if so whats the ratio
I like to use a premix called Spec Mix Type N or Type S. If you want to mix it yourself, which I don't recommend, here is how you would do that: 1-part Portland Type 1, 1-part hydrated line, 2 to 3 parts sand. Hope that helps!
Will this work with let's say a 6 to 1 or 7 to 1 ratios
They're is a lot of mortar out their to choose from. What kind of motor do you use and what do I need to buy to fill the gaps?
Great question, Samuel! For the thinset, any polymer-modified mortar will work, but we do like SpecMix XP500 and Laticrete MVIS as some examples. For the joints, any Type-N or Type-S mortar at your local distributor will work.
I found that out when he did the one man garage shelving.
Thanks for making this video and the suggestion about trying dish soap. I am using Sakrete S-Type mortar and have tried a variety of moisture contents to try to get it to flow as easily through the grout bag as shown in your video; I also tried increasing the size of the hole in the bag.
The only experience I've been having is sand collecting at the tip and clogging it, certainly nothing like the perfect creamy consistency you have. I have yet to have the mortar come out in any usable fashion. The Sakrete comes premixed so I have no control over the sand/lime/cement ratio. I'm going to do a small test batch with a few drops of dish soap to see if it makes a difference. Any other tips or thoughts about why these problems might occur would be very much appreciated. Thanks again!
Another thing you can do is put it through a softer to make sure the big chunks are out. Of course not something you would find in your kitchen, but something that will catch anything over a 1/4” in diameter. One thing to keep in mind as well, once you mix the mud, let it sit for a couple of minutes. That will allow the mix to absorb the water. Then add just a touch more water and mix again. That will help as well.
Hey man, I'm having this exact same issue. Mortar getting sandy and stuck in the tip of the grout bag. You ever find a solution? I want to try the dish soap, but am tired of ruining buckets and batches of mortar.
@@Richdonjuan5195r I DID find the solution and I never would have expected it. I wound up hiring a mason to help me finish the wall and I noticed that the only difference between his prep and mine is that I used a mixing attachment and a drill, while he hand-mixed the grout and water in the bucket. His mix came out of the bag like magic while mine clogged every time. Sure enough, I tried mixing by hand the next day and it worked perfectly. My only assumption is that the mixer is generating heat which is prematurely setting/thickening the mortar. Please give it a try, I'd be very interested to hear whether you have the same experience.
No we’re in this video does he said he use dish soap?
Where did you get that?
Question: Is there a specific type of mortar or ciment I must use when using this technique ? (My bag gets stuck and I am wondering why...). Do I have to sift the mortar before ? Thank you for your help and this demonstration.
Yves Charbonneau Bruyère use a type N or S mortar. I like Spec Mix. You can add a little more water and you can also add a little dish soap. Maybe a couple drops. That will help the flow. Always remember after you first mix up your mortar, let it sit a bit and minute or so. Then add just a little water and mix again. The mortar will initially absorb the water. Them just a bit more water will get you to where you want it.
@@speedymason Thank you for your answer and, again, for this video. Your help made a big difference. Your technique works 'A1'. I am now 'fine tuning it.
@@speedymason When you mention adding a couple drops of dish detergent, I’m wondering to what amount of mortar would that apply? Meaning, a few drops per half 5gal bucket, per bag of grout, etc.? It’s intriguing to think this could lubricate the mix, but I’m sure if too much is used it will compromise the integrity of the dried grout. Thanks again for sharing your expertise.
@@michaelbayroff5575 I put a couple drops per 5 gallon bucket.
@@speedymason Thank you sir.
Pointing, perps first then bed joints!
What is the color of the mortar used in the video?
This is a standard grey.
May I ask What is the recipe for this filler or modar? How much cement and plaster sand and water?Regards Anaska Geyer
I like to use a premix called Spec Mix Type N or Type S. If you want to mix it yourself, which I don't recommend, here is how you would do that: 1-part Portland Type 1, 1-part hydrated line, 2 to 3 parts sand. Hope that helps!
@@speedymason Thanks for your precious advise. I am from south africa so there is a difference in product names ect but I will do my best to get the ingredients.
If my mortar isnt coming out of the bag what does that mean?
Means you need to add some more water. Also, using a little bit of dish soap in the mix helps the mortar flow better.
Make sure there is no large aggregate in the sand you are using and you use the proper amount of sand to mortar. A sandy mix will not flow very well
@@mikesinistar8834 I'm using Quikrete mortar mix. I called them and they said it's type N, but they wouldn't tell me the exact proportions. I feel like there might be too much sand in it.
As a Real Tuckpointer I would point that up with a Dry mix and without holding the hawk to the wall Everything off the trowel ( pointing slicker) and point it to a finish No Grout bag no mess all over the floor and in way less time
I would like to see that technique. Do you have any videos you could share? I appreciate the message and would like to try it.
I am long since retired and really none of us here in NY ( that I know of) have done it in quite a while since those types of jobs stopped happening around here ( Big projects) about 15 years ago but I worked at GE in Schenectady NY back in the late 90s and even at that time I had No idea how much actual footage was possible until I worked with a crew of guys older than me who knew the process and even then it wouldn’t have been possible if not for a really knowledgeable man who had been in the industry since the 1950s and he had recipe books for all kinds of specific mixes that just don’t exist in this country and even his simple common brick dry pointing mix was completely different from any kind of spec mix or quickete sakrete etc Everything he did was from scratch so he probably screened the mason sand and maybe added his own whatever and mixed it with hydrated lime and Portland cement instead of just using masonry cement and sand?? I know that guys used to ask him for recipes for brownstone patching or whatever and he used to tell them that his recipe books all burned up in a fire or whatever ( He was a bit of a weirdo and that’s why he was so good) but I remember his dry mix having a whole different kind of Action ( for lack of a better word) It Performed differently from any masons mix or mortar mix that you can get at the Home Depot That much I’m sure about and I had no idea at the time just how much of a difference that even a simple brick pointing mix could be Bag mix that you just add water to like quickrete feels dead and gritty but His was. “ Live “ and not “ gritty “ and some of us were tuck pointing 2 or 3 hundred square feet a day ( or even more?) but that was after doing it for well over a year every day and off swing scaffolding and not frame scaffolding which is obviously much more difficult and I went from GE to an 1890s brownstone type college in Troy NY and did quite a bit of Grape Vine pointing which is a completely different mix and process but still the same Live Mortar ( 2001) but Never did that again after that job since Americans really don’t have the appreciation for that type of labor intensive specialty skill and how much it must cost ( no idea?) Not everyone could tuckpoint Even with everything as structured and organized orderly etc though unless you actually cared enough about the finished product and I actually worked a smaller job before GE and the guy running that job had an even dryer mix and he told everyone on the crew that if anybody gets caught holding the hawk against the wall They were Fired ( which is a little extreme since sometimes you have to hold the hawk against the wall in tricky spots) and that job was common brick old mortar which really was okay but they wanted it prettier and both of those jobs were cut out with all Air tools No electric anything little air chisels that are really hard to find now but I have a few from big swap meets way back and Imagine being told that you cannot use electricity at G.E.!! And GE was Wet Blasted since it was partially painted with lead paint which involved mixing Sand and water and Air and the old “ dinosaur “ who was the mixmaster was literally the only one I’ve ever worked with who could have set that enormous operation up and I really miss that guy and those types of jobs! I am going to try and mimic his dry mix from scratch and make a video about how we did it all off the trowel ( or slicker. tuck pointing tool) and point it to a finish just to show anyone who cares?? You’re definitely one of the better ones with the grout bag Sir.! Most of the videos I’ve seen they aren’t even getting it into the joints just sort of squirting it out all over the surface and really splashing it up pretty bad. THERES a guy on a video called 1kb and I watched him use a grout bag off a stepladder on a column and he was the only one ( besides you) that didn’t just make a mess But that guys got crazy long arms and young strong flexible He’s maybe the Best teacher All around that I’ve seen He can really teach ( I don’t know if I can?) I have actually never used a grout bag in over 30 years on union jobs or anywhere else and We were actually okayed to use them on a school job once and the boss tried it himself first and decided No Way so we didn’t and that guy was faster than almost anyone so if he couldn’t then we couldn’t So we never did . I’m going to have to try it sometime though just to see what it’s like and for big joints in the ground I can see how it could definitely be easier since you’re not on the knees
@@speedymason There’s also videos on U tube from a Company in London called London pointing and restoration and they remove pebble dash from old brick houses and I actually did pebble dash once ( one day job) Thanks only to the same “ dinosaur “ and had no idea that it was even called pebble dash but you cannot believe how great the old multi colored brick and stone is underneath or why anyone would want to cover it up with the pebble dash finish?? I guess it was a popular look at one time?and they do what’s called Penny Roll tuck pointing and it’s actually a few different kinds of pointing mix for the brick red and then white penny roll and I’ve actually seen it in a few places here in NY from a century ago and there’s even an Irish type of specific Ribbon Style that is even more complicated than the English penny roll and The Irish there say that “ They Own It “ like saying Don’t even think about making money doing this We Own It and that’s a whole bag of tricks that even I know nothing about!
Where do you buy that bag from?
www.zoro.com/marshalltown-grout-bag-vinyl-12x24-gb692/i/G3850632/?campaignid=19725757169&productid=G3850632&v=&gclid=CjwKCAjwrranBhAEEiwAzbhNtcEFCLSFb2_lkeFtC105qMEMQgr9DZjw5VM-7ImKsuEOZinnjVUlpxoCW5kQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
Thanks for the info, have you tried a mortar gun yet? I am not a masonry man, I'm working on my own home.
@@markfialkowski4388 I have used the Quikpoint mortar gun. It works good but it can be tricky. You have to clean it a lot but it really does help the arms. I may still have one in stock if you are interested. Feel free to email me tony@speedymason.com and I can get you a price.
I picked up a mortar gun and had nothing but trouble with it it kept on drying up on me. Then if I made it too wet it would just come pouring out. Again this has been a learning experience for me when it comes to masonry work. It's not as easy as it looks.
@@markfialkowski4388 I do prefer using the bag myself.
Is it gypsum brick veneer or wet stone...it looks like wet stone, but it got wet like gypsum.
Salute from Ukraine
This is clay brick we are working with.
@@speedymason catched it..
Have you ever tried to ice a cake ?
I have but nobody liked my frosting......To gritty.
Where can I buy this shit
www.speedymason.com/find-a-distributor
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I thought this was going to be a video about punching walls 😂
Ouch!
Pmsl what a fkin mess that is
It is a good idea to have your floors covered! Cleanup really isn't that bad.