'What the Health' Now Debunked by Vox | REBUTTAL
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- The What the Health Debunking frenzy continues. Finally one that cites a source or two. SO MANY POINTS TO REBUT.
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Main Article:
www.vox.com/sc...
documentary-review-vegan-diet
Happy Healthy Vegan Video:
• What The Health Debunk...
My Genetics Video:
• Is Your Family Disease...
Alcohol Also Class 1a Carcinogen:
monographs.iarc...
Eggs and Smoking Mortality Comparison Video:
• Eggs vs. Cigarettes in...
Eggs and Smoking Mortality Comparison Study:
www.ncbi.nlm.n...
AHA and USDA Cholesterol Not Nutrient of Concern:
www.cbc.ca/news...
Institute of Medicine Cholesterol as Low as Possible:
academic.oup.c...
abstract/69/5/270/1935029/Tolerable-upper-intake-levels-for-trans-fat?
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Egg Consumption and Carotid Plaque Buildup:
www.med.mcgill....
king.pdf
Vegan Artery Study:
www.ncbi.nlm.n...
Milk Changes Blood hormones:
www.ncbi.nlm.n...
My Older Video on Milk and Cancer:
• WHO...Dairy Causes Can...
Adolescent Daily Milk Consumption 320% Risk:
www.ncbi.nlm.n...
Meta Analysis Dairy and Prostate Cancer:
ajcn.nutrition....
Milk Boosts IGF-1:
nutritionj.bio...
site=nutritionj.biomedcentral.com
Vegans 29% Lower Female Cancer Risk, 78% lower diabetes:
www.ncbi.nlm.n...
WHO processed Meat Definition:
www.iarc.fr/en/...
Processed Meat Definition PBS:
www.pbs.org/new...
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60% Pork Processed:
www.nbcnews.com...
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28% of fish in the US mislabeled:
usa.oceana.org/...
found-worldwide?_ga=2.153248826.340977922.1501773252-130942406.1501773252
50% of LA Sushi restaurant fish mislabeled:
losangeles.cbsl...
served-at-26-l-a-area-restaurants-mislabeled/
DHA link (not paid for this):
tinyurl.com/yb...
Adventist Vegetarian Longevity Study:
jamanetwork.com...
395 Controlled Feeding Trials on Sat fat and Cholesterol:
www.ncbi.nlm.n...
The broad study on weight loss:
www.nature.com/...
Neal Barnard's trials show major diabetes improvements:
www.ncbi.nlm.n...
Caldwell esselstyn's clinical trial on cardiovascular disease reversal:
www.ncbi.nlm.n...
Great rebuttal as always Mic!
I can't tell if your being sarcastic. He tried to defend nonsense. I am pretty sure we knew 3 months ago that high Cholesterol doesn't cause heart disease. It isn't like the lipid hypothesis was debunked this year. It has been debunked for a while.
Earthling Ed hey homie
Patrick P prove it with science instead of an appeal to authority.
Hi Ed I love your work!
Hey Ed.
What's next? BuzzFeed "debunks" What The Health? All these media sites are garbage.
Carbs Are Happiness ikr!! ( I love your profile picture
Carbs Are Happiness the mainstream are threatened. As hipster as Buzzfeed consider themselves to be, they're probably the most incredibly hypocritical"news" outlet in Western media I've ever had the displeasure of reading. They give liberals a bad name
Level Up Vegan Couldn't agree more!!! They make liberals and progressives look like easily offended "SJWs". They find problems with EVERYTHING. The content they create serves no purpose. It does more harm than good.
Leo Lucien Thank you so much!!! ;D Awesome to find another the 1975 fan!
Carbs Are Happiness I'm not a fan of the 1975 anymore ,im an air conditioner haha :D I'd die to meet matty
Mic for President.
And Derek as vice president!
and Erathling ed for foreign diplomat
I'm not a vegan, but I agree, "spreading confusion" is the meat industry best friend.
Kapiel! Love ur work! Keep the knowledge spreading up
Seriously ruined my mental health so bad I went carnivore. So glad I found the truth. Never felt better as a starchivore before! I still eat variety but a boat load of starches. Rice (white as I need to gain weight and I can down it easily and get my calories up) and brown too, barley, beans, potatoes, gluten free bread! Then a few nuts for nutrients (Brazil and cashew), vegan Mayo for omega 3 until I can afford algal supplement next week, zinc/mag/B6 supplement for pyroluria, B12 supplement (although only ever other day as my levels were way too high), lemon squeezed on many things for vit c, and I'm pretty much covered for an entire day, oh and one tiny seaweed chip a day for iodine.
Wether WTH is an exaggeration or not, watching the documentary is one of the reasons that made me go full vegan. What I care about is my body and results, and I feel better than ever, energized and haven't had gastritis in a while. AND I stopped getting my high blood pressure pills. So lies or not, I do see a positive change in my life and that's all that matters to me. I think people should stop worrying about what others do and focus on their own lives.
I always trust doctors named "Z DOGG" when my health is at stake.
They're getting desperate. God forbid people stray from the mainstream!
I've been vegan since seeing What the Health. No regrets, loving my new life. Loving this channel.
Grabbearjet 🙌✌💜🌏💪
Same here. It's amazing. :)
+Grabbearjet any update on your diet/results?
I would also do that, but I am too young and therefore my parents need to give me approval, got any tips? I have already shown my parents What the Health...but,...,they went asleep...
Plus, I’m not the most courageous person in the world.
"I have made up my mind. Please stop confusing me with facts."
"Those are some hard hitting facts you got there... Too bad I'm going to ignore it all with my Cognitive Dissonance and continue with my unhealthy lifestyle :')."
Bahahaha!
Just started a whole food plant based diet...let's see!
Darrius Cuffie You can do it, the first month might be difficult just because of the adjustment, you'll feel soo much better!
Darrius Cuffie Make sure you're eating plenty of healthy starches like potatoes, corn, rice, beans, oatmeal, barley, whole grains, etc along with your fruits and veggies. These will make sure you feel satiated and energetic.
Darrius Cuffie How are you doing?
Don't forget to eat enough calories.
Plant foods are less calorie dense.
Nearly one month strong as a vegan (straight after watching the documentary.) Very doable, people! Keep up the good videos, Mic.
If it's provoking so many people to come out and try to debunk, it did something right!😁
funded by corps, media are dogs of rich. of course. they own most of govt, media, school, and organizations. if u didnt watched cowspiracy and what the health, pizza gate, MK ultra, flat earth.
yeah but even many vegans say that what the health is biased propaganda, producing propaganda documentaries only hurts the movement's integrity. Im pro vegan but i would never tell anyone to watch what the health, its BS lol
Well, we do have peer-review medical studies that say that vegan microbiota is healthier compared to people who eat meat, dairy and eggs.
Lower incidence of cancers on vegan diet... reduced chances of dying from all causes on vegan diet... etc.
I wouldn't say it's biased when you have the scientific data supporting you (which this video does quote as well).
Still, if one or two things were exaggerated, then those should be acknowledged by the film-makers and stick to the facts (there's lots supporting vegan diet as is, so there's no need to exaggerate).
Plus, you can't escape the reality of animal exploitation, torture, rape and murder... or the ecological costs that follow it.
P.S. on a personal note, when I went vegan two years ago, I stopped suffering from colds and flu's. I still had them as a vegetarian (for 6 months just prior to going vegan) and of course while eating an omni diet.
So, I can at least say from my own personal experience that a vegan diet greatly improved my health.
I still go to the gym multiple times a week and I do 100 pushups, 100 crunches and 100 squats daily.
Oh and I get my B12 from Nori. Peer-review confirms that seaweed Nori is an excellent source of biologically active B12 and Iodine.
Haven't had an issue with nutritional deficiencies at all...
So, if you do your research, and construct a proper (diverse) vegan diet... you WILL get everything you need from it.
Petar Posavec
You're absolutely right 😄thx for the detailed comment
Peter Posavec:
According to the Vegan Society (and other vegan sources), you should reconsider using nori (and other un-fortified food products), as opposed to supplements, for a B12 source.
I've been vegan for over 7 years, so I'm not responding from an omnivore's POV. I'm on your side :)
Everyone go to Vox's article and let them know that it has been debunked.
Yeah those bastards should know how stupid they are
This makes me angry at "science writes" and journalists who don't treat patients and propagate half truths and myths/lies and confuse the public.. At least they're bringing awareness to the movie.
Lmfao I'm dying at What The Health 2
Cheap Lazy Vegan we need a full video of what the health 2
Same
I don't understand why everyone freaked over What The Health, All of this info was in Forks Over Knives.
Why are people trying to debunk what the health? Humans eat meat 24/7 even if they see the animal being cooked infront of them. NOBODY says anything! Yet when someone decides to be vegetarian/vegan the WHOLE universe goes crazy.
Desiree Dixon It confuses their minds and makes them defensive because they don’t wanna think about all of the animals they are paying to be slaughtered. A vegan/vegetarians mere existence falls into question meat eaters, at least within themselves.
People don't go crazy over others becoming vegetarians or vegans. Do your own thing. Don't start arguing with bad science to push your opinions on others.
Are there documentaries whose sole purpose is to criticize veganism? Are there people shouting in the streets to stop veganism? Nope. But vegetarians and vegans love to push their lifestyle into others, even forcefully at times.
Wow the amount of media sources that has come out to debunk this documentary is crazy.That shows me "What the health" is a super effective film.
As a vegan I hate this documentary
There isome RIDICULOUS blatant misinformation in "what the health"
Like one medical doctor(presumably?) claiming that it's impossible for carbs to make you fat. That is a disgusting and outright dangerous lie. First he makes no distinction between starches and things like high fructose corn syrup.
Secondly I'd love to see that moron doctor back up his claim and eat adiet consisting of tons of fruit juice white bread, white rice, pasta. consuming 3-4000 kcal a day, the man will get fat, period.
His medical doctorate should be stripped for saying stupid things like that
@@Goriaas
Its true because only 3÷ percent of your fat is actually from carbs. Do the research.
Goriaas De Novo Lipogenesis only occurs when you have completely saturated all your carb stores in the liver and your muscle cells and even then it is not at all efficient. You lose two of the 4 calories per gram you get from carbohydrates just to complete the process. There is almost no food you can get that is 100% carbohydrates so your body, the efficient machine it is would store the fat which it can do easiest without changing the compound or it will convert the protein to sugar, which is second on the efficiency scale but also is an acidic process that damages the kidneys. So the doctor was using science to make that statement. What are you using?
"Just eat around the toxins" :D :D
These rebuttal videos are the best. You're arming us with the ammo to shoot down these arguments as they come in our daily lives. Good research, and a lot of unexpected laughs!
just because most vegans are less likely to smoke and drink alcohol and eat less processed food doesn't mean that vegan diets are Heather at all the fact that pesco-vegetarians had the lowest hazard ratio for all-cause mortality in the Adventist Health Study 2 despite pollution? I can see the ecological and other ethical problems with eating seafood, but doesn't epidemiology contradict the claim that a vegan diet is healthier than a pescovegetarian diet? I don't think I know better, it's just that I see some contradiction here. Thanks for your reply.
This study on vegans' use of saying vegan being Heather than meat-eater has clearly shown the opposite true with the fish-eater this doesn't mean vegan diets are unhealthy but not optimal as whole food plants based with some fish since this diet provides all the nutrients from plants and B12 DHA and more biologically available vitamins A and D, therefore, non-vegan diets can be slightly Heather than WFPBD
Not all vegans eat this diet vegans do eat refined carbs also added vegetable oils are and mock meats are not correct to say that vegans are automatically Heather because their diet is vegan
What the Health is trending and all these sites 'debunking' the documentary is just them jumping on the bandwagon.....
Let's Do Better Now completely agree with you there. They just want some views :/
Let's Do Better Now think these sites don't just want clicks but rather have an evil agenda!
I don't mind this since it means more people will know about it. At the very least there will be more cases where people will go in to watch and make fun of the "debunked" documentary and once they start looking at how "debunked" it actually is they will start on the path of #woke ness.
Kaweta yeah maybe but I personally think the debunking articles or videos do more harm as they reinforce the behaviour that people already have and the majority will not do any research about it.....
I just watched the movie tonight with my mom!! Making the move from vegetarian to vegan that much more compelling. Also my mom wants to eat more plant based too!
salsaplease 🙌✌💜🌏💪 that's awesome!
Big Meat and Dairy should never have been allowed to attain the stronghold it has on the global food supply chain. You don't need it in your diet AT ALL, in fact the opposite is true. I've never felt better since switching to plant-based. I only wish I had awoken to this fact two decades earlier. Spread the message folks, spread it far and wide!
just because most vegans are less likely to smoke and drink alcohol and eat less processed food doesn't mean that vegan diets are Heather at all the fact that pesco-vegetarians had the lowest hazard ratio for all-cause mortality in the Adventist Health Study 2 despite pollution? I can see the ecological and other ethical problems with eating seafood, but doesn't epidemiology contradict the claim that a vegan diet is healthier than a pescovegetarian diet? I don't think I know better, it's just that I see some contradiction here. Thanks for your reply.
This study on vegans' use of saying vegan being Heather than meat-eater has clearly shown the opposite true with the fish-eater this doesn't mean vegan diets are unhealthy but not optimal as whole food plants based with some fish since this diet provides all the nutrients from plants and B12 DHA and more biologically available vitamins A and D, therefore, non-vegan diets can be slightly Heather than WFPBD
Not all vegans eat this diet vegans do eat refined carbs also added vegetable oils are and mock meats are not correct to say that vegans are automatically Heather because their diet is vegan
i don't see why so many people are trying to debunk What The Health. it seems like they want to find even the vaguest supporting evidence that eating meat is okay so they can carry on their life without guilt or having to actually worry about what they are putting in their bodies. it's so ridiculous, they will do anything not to have to eat broccoli
Ugh what the health got me thinking I should drop out of medschool....
Dat Bish LOL I've thought the same but hang in there my friend I've met physicians who recommend whole food plant based diets for their patients. It's a minority for sure but we gotta be the change
Wade Licup Absolutely agreed! Vegan docs for the win lol
You can't leave because you are going to be the generation that makes the change
If i can't leave my naturopathy diploma, you can't leave med school!!! We need to be out there!! Unfortunately most people only listen to 'experts' with a certificate on the wall.
Thanks for the support guys! Not leaving med school haha I am thinking about getting a degree in nutrition on the side, and do some research in that field too though... ( I'm kind of a geek.. lol) But I love learning about our anatomy, physiology and pathofysiology too much to be able to leave medschool. Who knows, I might be able to quote my own research papers when convincing the hardcore meateaters to go vegan lol GO VEGANSS!
Good job! Another great video. This is why we are happy to have you! Thanks for this! 👍
I will stay vegan no matter what anyone says!
watch cowspiracy too.
I watched this documentary as an avid meat eater and dairy user on a low carb diet. Was never interested in veganism. I IMMEDIATELY became vegan. I'm two weeks in so far and I haven't looked back and never want to.
Mic! What a corker! Love this! haha ^Robbie 😂😂😂
I don't like to talk about myself but I feel compelled to do so on this issue.
I watched "What the Health" about 6 or 7 weeks ago and began my meat free and plant based diet the following day. I have lost more than 10lbs so far without any additional exercise. People around me have noticed my increase in energy levels, a brightness to my eyes and skin improvement. The chronic aches in my joints that were particularly bad in the morning have completely disappeared (I did not notice this until my wife pointed it out to me) and my stomach issues have totally gone away. I have encouraged other family members to at least cut out dairy and cut back on meat consumption and even they have been impressed with their own results.
I am not a complete bore on this issue when out and about but on this occasion I just wanted to say,
"Ignore these biased naysayers and just do it. It works!"
I have been also losing weight week after week, it's amazing!
Yes, I'm 56 and went WFPB 5 years ago, lost lots of weight and feel much younger than before the switch.
I follow the mucusless diet (by arnold ehret, no meat and dairy, mostly fruits and veggies) and have lost so much its crazy...weight literally drops off when you stop stuffing toxins in your body!
Vegans are always going on about how meat is bad or dairy is bad. My Dad ate meat and dairy every day of his life until he died at the age of 50 from a heart attack. Explain that?
wtf is wrong with you ? Heart Attack at 50 is not good thing at all ..
Am I the only one that got the humor out of UcanbeGOD's comment? lol
UcanbeGOD This is a joke, right?
It's a joke, why you people don't get it... not enough protein from grass? This is also a joke.
Best joke in the comments! And people dont get it. What a shame...
I bloody love your videos! You have the best way of explaining things and the best voice to go with it, which makes it really easy and engaging watching your videos. Keep it up! Loving the hair too 👌
This documentary literally may have saved my life. My mom died from breast cancer when I was 12. Dairy was a huge portion of her diet. She would almost always eat a huge bowl of cereal every morning, and i remember I used to be astonished how she ate it all. As for me, I used to pretty much only drink milk. I would go through a half gallon a day give or take, and meat and animal products were the main portion of my diet. I worked out every other day in high school striving to be a body builder and my dad would by me steak to cook and eat for myself every night for dinner. My diet was the exact diet that appear to cause a hormonal cancer like what my mom got and my grandpa ( her father)got. He had prostate cancer. I'm 21 now and watched this documentary a little over a month ago and have been vegan ever sense. This documentary could have possibly saved my life.
Vegan is the future 🥕🍍🥑✌
Lmaoo this was so funny but also factual. It's like the perfect mix. I love your humor, would it be considered sarcasm? Idk but it's funny af
Why do I keep getting advertising for meat? Not really the demographic
The biggest question to ask yourself is " do I feel better?"
My answering is YES! I feel sooooooo much better!
No inflammation and no more aches and pains.
Honestly, unpopular opinion time, but I think What the Health went a bit too far with some of their claims. Maybe I feel this way cause I'm a viewer who is relatively more educated on nutrition, but they left so much out. There was way too much simplification and kind of black and white claims. I agree with the overall conclusion that plant based is healthier, however they didn't need to make such outrageous claims to get there. Kinda felt like they were dumbing it down for the viewer and thereby missing a lot of stuff, and also like, of course the first person you get on the phone when you call the number on a packet doesn't have super in depth answers. I don't know, it's not the documentary I'd recommend to people personally... it's just really obviously set up with a goal to promote veganism, therefore exuding dishonesty from the get go. It's just how I felt watching it at some points in the documentary and if I, who is already convinced that plant based is best for me, feels that way I can imagine any non vegan I'd recommend it to could also very well feel this way. There are enough great arguments for veganism, no need to exaggerate.
These ppl are so annoying who keep trying to debunk this documentary. Just say you're not giving up meat damn!
It's sad that most people wouldn't put candy, chips, soda, cookies, etc in their dogs food bowl but they give it to their kids.
I know what you're trying to say, but to be fair, I try to feed my dog the best diet possible to keep him healthy, based on the research I've done, and I wouldn't in a million years feed that diet to a human. Dogs and humans have very different physiology and require a different balance of nutrients. I wouldn't put a bunch of boiled potatoes in my dog's dish, but I would absolutely feed that to a child.
Tons of friends have sent me this vox article THANK YOU I've been sending them back the debunk of Zdog by a real doctor
I used the film as a starting point to learn more. Saw more documentaries, read books and articles and saw lectures on RUclips. Been 100% vegan for one month now and I can honestly say that I've never felt better in my whole life. I'm not saying that as some sort of propaganda, I'm being totally honest. The positive effects of switching to a plant based diet show up almost immediately.
"Just pick the toxins out!" Omg I am dying. Thank you
"Just eat around the toxins" 😂😂😂
Hey Mic,
what scientific evidence would you show people who use the "moderation" argument to justify their meat consumption?
Even after telling them the mechanisms on why animal products cause heart disease and cancer they still
go on to say that animal products are save as long as you don't over eat it...
Are there any studies that show how much meat is enough to increase your risk of all cause mortality significantly?
He did a video explaining the difference between a vegan and a plant-based diet which covered this. Hope that helps. :)
Smith Middleton
At what minute?
Sof SexCock
Do we have any research on that?
Like "eating 1 egg a day increases your risk for diabetes by 10%"
Because these delusional idiots seem like they would trade a kidney to keep eating their bacon...
You can use smoking for the "moderation" argument.
They used to say smoking in moderation is ok also.
Yes...sure the less you smoke, the better it is... but the optimal solution is to not smoke at all.
One PunchMan i think those researches are barried by the animal-product industry
'Eat around the toxins in fish' 😂😂😂 Love it. Do you have any tips on how to do this? Do chopsticks help?
Great research mate! Keep up the good work!
The Clipart judge wig - I DIED OMG
Thank you sooooo much for debunking this. I'm vegan have been encouraging many people to watch What the Health and they reply by hitting me with this incredibly biased carnist-vibe sort of article. Perfect timing for this video to come out!
I've been waiting for someone to call these shitty articles out, there is another one done by a so called vegan nutrition expert. Thank you, Mic.
Any new vegan youtubers wanna make friends?
I just love your channel. You always have such strong arguments and always have so much research and facts supporting them. Never stop doing what you do.
Your videos are always informative and convincing. Thanks for your hard work! By the way, I've heard you mention in videos before that you have a friend whose anemia has improved with a vegan diet. Any plans on making a video about anemia in the future? I'd be very interested!
Mic needs to be Minister of Health
There was some dodgy audio artefacts going on here mic? Think it's time for a new mic for Mic?
Where do we sign up to be subjects in these vegan health studies
I'm 27, 127lbs, great health
Ah yes. Nothing better than getting a new mic the vegan video right before my lunch break 😁
I have a question. Is a nonwhole foods vegan diet still really healthy? I want to go vegan but I have a hard time eating fruits and some vegetables because their textures make me gag. Though I don't care too much about health, I mainly want to go vegan for the animals, but I'm still curious.
Jeanie Girlover I wouldn't say it's really healthy but it is healthier. Just avoid eating too much soy and ignore any vegans who try to shame you for eating what you want :)
processed foods like pasta, bread, oreos, soda and stuff aren't as good for you, but they don't have the same carcinogens as meat and dairy, the main problem you could have is excessive oils matched with excessive processed carbs, thats kind of asking for poor health, but still not to the same extent as eating a typical american diet. i was watching an excessive eater that ate only french fries and he was pre-diabetic, so you can see where eating a vegan diet that limited is problematic, you are still getting the clogged up insides from the oils that can't process the carbs.
You can do a lot of whole plant foods in the form of a smoothie (not juice). The smoothie is also a good way to add ground flax or chia for omega-3 all while keeping precious fiber and phyto-compounds. Also you can do a lot of dishes for dinner or lunch that consist of lentils/beans with cooked down greens, tomato, and onion. This basically resembles a stew. Just start experimenting - its fun! You will find something you like and eventually your body will probably crave plant foods because the nutrient load is so much greater.
I eat high carb low fat, I occasionally have a bit of junk, but I don't miss it, starchy carbs like potatoes, rice and oats are super fuel and very filling. & try 'nice-cream' if you don't like the texture of fruits, freeze your bananas over night buy some frozen strawberries and blueberries, throw them in the food processor with a little plant milk and voila instant delicious yet super healthy low fat ice cream. :P
Non-whole foods vegan diet is not so healthy, but its always a better choice to make over eating any animal products.
At least if any harm comes to your health, it will be only you who got harmed, and not any other creature along with it.
I would suggest though to focus more on the whole foods and fruits that u can tolerate for start, (along with the other processed vegan stuff that u eat) and then maybe your taste buds change over time, and u will be able to include a bigger variety of fruits and vegetables in your palette.
Awesome video as always
"Then you have the vegan Adventists - vegan for religious reasons, not for their abs"
Lol I snorted with laughter at the wig moment. Also I love your sass so much.
You tell em Mic
Next is Cosmopolitan debunks What The Health.
Truth is, If you go Vegan for ethics it's much easier to stick to it. It also puts in a corner most of the people questioning it. This documentary completely ignores this aspect, and in my opinion exaggerates certain health benefits. People magically healing in 14 days..
Well, there are lots of good research studies showing dramatic health benefits appearing very rapidly and people getting off of their meds:
www.dresselstyn.com/Esselstyn_Three-case-reports_Exp-Clin-Cardiol-July-2014.pdf
I was on Nexxium for 10 years and got off it when I went WFPB and I haven't had a cold in 5 years, even though I used to get bad ones 2-3x/year.
It doesn't take long to experience health changes. When I went vegan, my muscle soreness and inflammation related symptoms dissappeared in about a week.
Can you do a video about people claiming we can't know anything about nutrition for sure because a lot of studies are not peer reviewed or are "pseudo science."
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Hi Mike! I love your videos; I have found them to be very helpful, as I've been moving from lacto/ovo vegetarian to vegan lately. :-)
Accuracy tip: I am an Adventist and my denomination promotes veganism for *both* health and religious purposes. 😉. They believe that one can best comprehend God and and scripture best if one's mind is healthy and well nourished. 🙂👍
Anyways, I've been really enjoying your vids and learning a lot from them. Keep up the awesome work.
If the film didn't hit a few nerves, didn't threaten a few wallets, tumbled a few health claims, the reaction wouldn't be so vitriolic.
Love the content! I have officially converted from a junk food vegan to a Whole Foods vegan thanks to you. Can you make a vid about the positive and negative effects of coffee?
mic, I'm a straight male but I think I love you 😘😂😂good job brother 👍👍👍👍
The citations alone put VOX to shame on this. If nothing else it shows us which media are sold out to industry.
BTW, any idea what the WFPB diet was from that BROAD study? I'm just eating whatever but not seeing results yet after a few months. Potatoes, rice, legumes, beans, oats, fruits, salads, mushrooms, bell peppers, apples, carrots, tofu, etc etc. I feel great and am sleeping a lot better but I don't know if there is a magic ratio I"m missing ;) It's naturally working out to 80/10/10 carbs fat protein but maybe my body is having a hard time with something. Ah well, i'll keep trying
You feel and sleep better, so that is a result. ;) What kind of results where you expecting?
I guess I was expecting weight loss over a few months but over the long haul I figure that will be more apparent
waltersumofan some people get more pronounced results than others. My dad said he has loads of energy now and feels much younger. For me it was much more subtle initially, but I felt like I could breath a lot freer, deeper and felt less congested overall. Slightly longer term (and without even exercising regularly at all) my endurance has improved massively! I wasn't great at running any appreciable distance before but it feels so so easy now.
waltersumofan do you use any oil to cook your food? And if so, do you count that too? Some people tend to overlook that, but it makes a massive difference.
I am skinny af (67kg at 1.83m), but my wfpbd actually made me gain 1-2kg without any effort. The biggest difference I experienced so far is that I recover much quicker, from everything. Flew, excercise, fatigue, etc...
No oil for me. The study showing the vein repairing was a good enough incentive. Other studies too just reinforce the notion that all processed food especially oil isn't the way to go. I use nuts and fruit now instead and I feel that's worked out well.
I noticed a positive change in my legs after a month, quick recovery from long walks the next day. I figure weight loss is in a list of things that will occur, it's just not the body's priority at the moment while it cleans up other things like arteries (my theory). I don't know if there are better food choices that can help that along
Mic the Vegan has some of the most informative and educational content on health and diet period. He always is taking both sides of an argument into concern. I respect that and hope those on the fence keep an opened mind and research themselves.
people are just afraid to be healthy, alot of people have the attitude "im just gonna die anyway, might as well enjoy life", well now i have a ton of energy to enjoy life, and not pass out from a meat coma after a big meal
I really wish Kip (and/or you) would make some kind of tutorial on how to go into these sources, pick out the companies that funded them and find these sponsors/partners. I would really love it if more vegans were able to do it themselves since then we could apply it to other countries/companies/industry science papers as well. We could also apply it to studies proving vegan diets to be better as well to show how little they are part of the "vegan propaganda conspiracy"
In every peer-reviewed published paper, there ought to be a little section tucked away somewhere declaring the authors' conflicts of interest. If you have the full PDF of a study you can probably ctrl+f "conflicts of interest". In many cases with nutritional studies that claim "eating eggs is totally fine for you!" or "milk does a body good!" you'll see in the "conflicts of interest" section that the research was funded in part by, say, the National Egg Board, or the National Dairy Council. If the authors declare a CoI that doesn't say "egg" "dairy" "beef" etc, but they DO declare a different CoI, go check out the organization that funded them and assess for yourself whether that organization is trustworthy.
If the authors don't declare a CoI, but the results of the study seem suspect, look up the authors' names. Find out where they conduct research. I came across a study recently, can't remember where, but the results were pro-animal ag, and they didn't declare any conflicts of interest. Turns out both researchers worked in the "animal science" department at basically a school for animal agriculture. If your paycheck depends on your promotion of animal products, it's highly unlikely that you're going to find in your research that animal agriculture is bad for humans or the planet.
Learning how to read a study's methodology properly takes a proper course. If you're quite interested in reading research, try looking for a course at your local community college that teaches scientific literacy and see if you can get into it without prereqs. Or look for a course on coursera or a similar website. Learning how to understand good methodology really helps in figuring out how to read a study. Good research design is essential for getting clear, unbiased results, and especially in the social sciences, it's easy to design a study in such a way that you get the results that you want.
For example, let's design a study on eggs and cholesterol. I have the resources to conduct an experimental study, instead of an observational study -- that means that instead of just asking people what they eat and measuring their cholesterol, I can take two or more groups of people and assign them to eat different numbers of eggs. This will help measure the effects of egg consumption directly, and keep other factors from influencing the results.
Now, if I'm interested in the truth about egg consumption, I'll take, say, two groups of people. Group A will eat no eggs at all for, say, 8 weeks. Group B will eat 5 eggs a week. I'll measure both group's cholesterol at the start of the study and throughout. I'll ask how much exercise they get and what other foods they're eating at the time. Then I'll compile the data. With what we know about egg consumption, I ought to see low cholesterol in Group A and a dramatic jump in cholesterol in Group B.
But let's say I'm getting paid by the National Egg Board. If I put out a study saying that eating eggs increases your cholesterol, I'm not getting money from them ever again, so I'm interested in designing the study such that I get a favorable result for eggs.
So I divide my people into two groups. I assign Group A to eat 3 eggs every day. Then I assign Group B to eat 4 eggs every day, and I measure their cholesterol. There won't be much of a difference in their cholesterol levels, and I can publish a paper saying that eggs are just fine and don't raise cholesterol -- and the egg consumption really didn't raise the cholesterol, so it's technically true. But I designed the study so that it would be very, very hard to find a difference in cholesterol between the groups.
That's why it's important when reading studies to at least look over the methodology of the study with an eye for what kind of research design will give you the best, unbiased results.
(Source: went to school for sociological research)
can you please do a bit on gluten?
All he said was that a study said that 1 egg a day is equivalent to 5 cigarettes a day in lifespan.
Hello - the egg link doesn't work anymore. Great video.
Unnatural vegan should watch this but that would mean she would have to be positive and not having confirmation bias for once so 🐸☕️
I asked people to watch What the health. They did not give a damn. Young people just dnt give a shit about anything :-(
Sudipta Das I'm 15 and have been vegan since birth. Don't generalise please. Some of us do care. I care enough to cut people who deny it out of my life entirely.
Sudipta You can't open closed minds. I think the best thing you can do is just be, on occasion you will get the opportunity to teach. I get that its easy to get frustrated with people, people are generally adverse to change. Nothing can make them change, they have to change themselves.
I'm 15 and I saw the doc and told my family to watch it. Now most of my family is vegan!
What's young? I'm 21 and care and so do many of my friends. Comments like this do not help the cause.
its ok..not worry about it...most young people, dont give a big priority to diet stuff. As people mature, they tend to search more about such stuff.
But, Good that u tell them anyway...it gets in the back-burner of their mind.
Hey Mike! You probably won't see this comment but i'd still like to share a story. My non vegan family went to a dairy farm while we were on vacation. We saw how the cows were treated, and honestly it was terrifying. Some of the cows had muscle spasms while being milked by the machines, and the cows in the pasture had injuries as bad as limps, and bloody regrown horns that nobody had cared for. The hay they were given wasn't really clean and the cows were really foreign to human contact. It was one of the saddest things i've ever seen. I honestly can't understand how people would willingly support this kind of abuse to animals and be 100% okay with it after seeing it right in their faces. It had even seen an article with complete bullshit spouted out from the dairy industry. one of the quotes said something along the lines of "our cows are pampered" and "the cows have clean, dry, comfortable housing". The dairy industry truly lies to your face.
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!
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Why the heck are we arguing about this when global warming is a thing?
Mango Green so you're saying that the cows that, are going to be slaughtered anyways, are going to help the carbon intake into the atmosphere more than something like a coal plant?
Animal agriculture is a leading direct contributor to greenhouse gas emissions and dead zones AND meat eating is the leading cause of deforestation (goodbye carbon sequestration) and loss of biodiversity. So cutting back dramatically on meat eating has multiple systemic benefits for people and the planet.
I'm sorry, I don't understand what point you trying to make. Most cropland grows crops to feed to animals, and it's dramatically more efficient to just feed corn and soybeans to people directly. Thus, if we cut meat consumption markedly, lots of former grazing land or land for growing livestock feed could return to being forest. But yes, we should also switch to more eco-friendly farming practices such as organic/veganic farming/agroecology.
Actually, the Seventh Day Adventists who follow a vegan diet do it for faith and health reasons. The entire reason their church was founded was around promoting health in conjunction with hospital visits. They believed following vegetarian and vegan diets were more healthful.
Well said, Mic. Thanks for sharing this video. The studies seem pretty clear to me about the increased health risks of eating animal foods. Anyone who says these studies are not definitive really don't want to change what they like to eat which is animals foods and processed foods.
It sounds like Mic needs a new mic.
Yeah I think the battery is getting low and it somehow makes white noise. Putting a new battery in now. Unless you are talking figuratively.
hehe mouth hole
THANK YOU for making this video, Mic. I saw that bullshit article and I looked over their sources and arguments but wasn't sure what sources to use to debunk them. Thanks for spreading actual science, rather than lies.
So much for not giving up the crap they have been fed since childhood. The same article has a link to a video titled 'Want to save animal lives without going veg? Eat beef, not chicken."
I'm vegan and I genuinely didn't enjoy what the health. Here come the downvotes.
As a vegan I hate this documentary
There isome RIDICULOUS blatant misinformation in "what the health"
Like one medical doctor(presumably?) claiming that it's impossible for carbs to make you fat. That is a disgusting and outright dangerous lie. First he makes no distinction between starches and things like high fructose corn syrup.
Secondly I'd love to see that moron doctor back up his claim and eat adiet consisting of tons of fruit juice white bread, white rice, pasta. consuming 3-4000 kcal a day, the man will get fat, period.
His medical doctorate should be stripped for saying stupid things like that
As an ethical vegan, and someone well versed in nutrition I absolutely do not believe the exaggerated claims made by this channel and the documentary under discussion. A well-balanced diet will have the same overall effect on your health whether it is entirely plant-based or includes some animal products or even *gulp* meat. Nutrition alone doesn't have as much of an effect on our health as lifestyle factors like smoking, drinking, exercise and stress. Be vegan for the animals, but don't be brainwashed into thinking it's somehow a miracle cure for all disease.
beruga So all the health problems we face today are just made up and don't exist? Chronic disease nothing to do with diet? No? Sure bout that??
The key word is "well-balanced"...clearly the standard Western diet (especially in America) is far from balanced. However, from a nutritional point of view, some meat in your diet will not automatically cause you to develop heart disease and diabetes - as these vegan propaganda channels will have you believe. Again, lifestyle factors play a huge role in this, and it is extremely difficult to tease these apart in controlled experiments. Please watch this video (ruclips.net/video/awu09bSGTj0/видео.html) if you're interested in the challenges of interpreting findings from the nutrition literature. This article (huntgatherlove.com/content/just-kale-me-how-your-kale-habit-slowly-destroying-your-health-and-world) is also useful for showing how it's easy to vilify any single dietary component...even kale!
No one has claimed that eating these products once in a while will take a massive toll on your health,The risks shown in the documentary are the risks that people take when indulging the regular Western diet.
As the video I linked clearly explains, it is extremely difficult to tease apart lifestyle factors (and even dietary factors) in epidemiological studies - which are by far the most common in the nutrition literature. Saying, for example, that eggs cause heart disease is an untenable claim that even the authors of the linked study acknowledge in their paper. At this point we have very little idea as to which of the various factors (diet, lifestyle, age, gender, occupation, stress, etc.) contribute in what degree to our rates of chronic disease. It is naive to say that diet alone, or especially a particular food, is the cause.
Soul V FYI, humans are most certainly omnivores. The ability to digest milk is an adaptation not shared with other primates, and we have considerably smaller guts than our herbivore cousins. I certainly will not criticize anyone for being vegan, but it's disingenuous to claim that humans are not omnivores.
I watched What the Health not knowing what the subject of the documentary was, and after watching it decided to give a plant based diet a try. Going on two weeks now, and feeling fantastic! I have lost about 10 pounds already (including daily workouts) and I feel stronger than ever, which has added motivation to continue. The comment that stuck with me in the documentary was "meat is a luxury item" I grew up hunting, fishing, and even raising our own beef. Without getting into an ethical debate of eating animals, how do you feel about the health factors of eating animals taken by your own hands, or raised in your own backyard?
Crowdsourced "What the Health" is kicking their butts!
Love me some petty Mic.
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Those wishing death to non-vegan are probably only posturing as vegan making totalitarian claims... only to tarnish their cause... 101 psyops on forums.
[Kokorov] I literally only see one guy saying that in this comment section.
[Kokorov] please don't lump us all in that category. Also keep in mind, a lot of vegans have a lot of frustration from the shit they get, injustice, and ignorance they encounter and probably just venting on here. Do it for the morality, health, and environmental benefits and don't worry about what "community" it does or does not make you a part of. Its more than just a fad for popularity after all.
[Kokorov] not like meat eaters ever leave hateful messages. And there is maybe one message get over yourself
Some of the comments here are still abysmal, but there are good ones now too. The broken logic of some of the vegan comments just bothered me, that's all.
I've stumbled upon your page over the recent few days & I love your videos. These are very educational for me.
One of your best videos ! Fantastic ! Entertaining and informative
Unless you’re ripping it off the living animal with your teeth . . . your meat has been processed.
Great video!!! So well said!!! I want to to facepalm every time I hear someone say "debunked" when referencing this.
If they genuinely believed consuming animal products is ok , why would they be so threatened and defensive lol
Thanks for helping me wake up and go vegan!! I was vegetarian for years but finally a month ago I realized I needed to change that