I still think that the watch is amazing overall (especially for the price). It's not a great bracelet, true, but it remains functional enough and doesn't detract from an otherwise wonderful appearance and design. It has the virtue of being light as well (I hate heavy bracelets, even if they're of premium quality.) The loom is questionable, but it certainly doesn't bother me. I agree that a clean silver look would appear more elegant, but this strikes me as nitpicking. Anyway, the pros heavily outweigh the cons (which you yourself suggest at the beginning).
I have this watch. I also have the previous generation EFR-S107D, which has is not hexagonal. The new S108D improves on the older model in almost every way. This size reduction from 41mm to 39mm is very noticeable, and looks much more balanced as a result. The finishing of the case and the crown is much improved, including the transitions between the polished chamfered edges and brushed surfaces. The lume is much improved from the older model, still not great, but the indexes have lume whereas the older model didn't. The handset is also much more visible, being all white. The bracelet is a let down, but tapers nicely. All in all, it's an absolute stunner. 👍🏼
For EFR-S107 Casio specifies 47.5×42.5×8.3mm, for EFR-S108 44.8x39.9x7.8mm. This means EFR-S108 is 2.7mm smaller (most important lug-lug: 47.5-44.8 or less important diameter 42.5-39.9). I agree EFR-S108 looks more nice, but people perferring large watches/having a large wrist may find EFR-S107 looks more attractive on their wrist in size relation.
Although I'm willing to accept the bracelet (unsatisfactory though it is), the one major flaw is that the bracelet is difficult, if not impossible, to replace. I'm puzzled how Casio would not allow for this option. Not only should a bracelet be replaceable, but there should be at least a few alternative bracelets available. That's just common sense. The flaw aside, it's a great watch. My intuition, however, tells me that what Casio did is not attributable to simple stupidity or a lapse in good judgement. It may instead play a role in a subtle marketing strategy. To put it simply: design great, though imperfect, watches so as to stoke the fires of potential buyers. The very inadequacies, coupled with great quality, basically cause people to want more and more. Which generates more profit. Imperfections mean more upgrades: the customers MUST remain dissatisfied to some extent to keep them interested. In the process, Casio saves money by cutting corners. It's actually a brilliant strategy.
Totally agree. I always think that all Casio models are imperfect...and easily could almost perfect. A strategy for sell more watches. All casios are very good but no one casio almost perfect. Sometimes the size is wrong...other the color...the lume...always something...ummmm...it cant be coincidence...it s done on purpose
One thing I have noticed with people that buy dive watches is they never been diving in their whole life or even been swimming, yet people constantly complain about water resistance,lume strength and screw down crown. I own a dive watch purely because of its look, I own a dress watch, purely because of its look, I own a digital watch and also a beater watch again purely because of it look. What is the facination with RUclips reviewers as to why they complain so much when they review watches ? London, UK
And Mr.Tomas , you made a wonderful video , you did not forget any details , also you showed the watch on the wrist in term to present a perfect review
20:59 believe it or not the wd-40 idea worked! I used a thicker lubricant with a syringe added a very small amount into the link openings that can be seen on the edges when the links are folded over. It took about 10 minutes, i did have to wash with strong soap to wash away any overspill but the bracelet does not squeak anymore and sounds much much better. love the watch
Screw down crown doesn't provide the 200m rating. It's the gasket inside. Screw down crowns just make it safer from knocks. There are 50m wr watches with screw down crowns, and 200m ones without. Manufacturers often pair these features but they aren't connected.
That's a great watch review from a gentleman who loves wearing watches. That's what I see when I watched it and I really like hearing someone's opinions who uses the watches regularly instead of some youtubers just reviewing them for their videos. Great video, keep it up!
I absolutely agree with every point you've made. You made a great point about how Casio just fell short of making the watch to its full potential - by having solid links and good industry-standard lume. I would gladly pay for such a premium product. Do you work in any field of design? Particularly product design? Just curious because your attention to detail fits the attributes of someone that works in that field. Great insights! Subscribed!
Looking at 22:09 I think you are wrong to state this bracelet is integrated. I see dark edges all around the end-link (center part) of the bracelet clearly indicating a separate part. But in my image this end-link seems to be a very special design that does not allow any up and down movement (it is very tightly fitted, not to the sides/lugs, but to the top/watch housing). And on both sides I see something round I consider to be a spring bar that holds the end-link in position between the lugs. Trying to remove/Removing the end link connected to the watch lugs should clarify if this bracelet can be exchanged and attaching another bracelet would show if the watch to bracelet transition still looks reasonable. And measuring the lug width as well as the spring bar center and tip diameter would help to judge if it is easy to find a straigth ended bracelet and matching spring bar or if the spring bar can even be used on another bracelet. What is the thickness of the EFR-S108D bracelet? And how is it tapered? (I just bought an A-158 digital watch and was surprised to find that its 18mm lug-width metal band -band width 21.4mm at the lugs tapered down to 15mm over 4 links- has a thickness of just 1.9mm. It looks like 3 layers are folded/intertwined, because within the 1.9mm I can measure down to 1.6mm and at both ends there are small areas of single layer at 0.5mm thickness. Due to a step width of 3.8mm in length adjustment I feel an ideal tightness before and directly after 1 step adjustment, because of a little lengthening within the first days. In this ideal tight position -no up and down movement on the wrist- I never noticed any hair rip off by too tight distance between the links -link-to-link distance is difficult to measure, I estimate it typically to be 0.3mm with a minimum of 0.2 or 0.25mm, this means much larger than my thin hair- and because of no sharp edges there is also no hair shave off.) I understand the felt (rather heard) negative point on this hollow link bracelel is its strange sound. But in my understanding an ideally lengthened bracelet should not really move on the wrist and make any sound (on my A-158 I cannot hear any sound). Solid links do sound "better" and their heavy weight leaves somehow the impression of solidity. However, heavy weight is on the other side a negative when you permanently feel a disturbance like what is this heavy weight on my watch side wrist. And is the solidity of for example a 4mm thick watch bracelet really necessary. I think nearly nobody is able to tear a plastic band apart. And the same applies in my image to the weakest point 0.5mm thick metal band of my A-158. Another point ls the the long term stability in lengthening. Here I see some advantage for solid metal links, but I am asking me if it is really necessary to use 4mm thick solid links or if 2.5mm or 3.0mm thick will not show nearly the same long term stability with the advantage of a much lower weight.
I perfectly agree with you. I bought this watch for my son's birthday last year. It looks amazing on him. He even got compliments at school. Whenever he wears (because he doesn't wear it all the time, new generation with mobile phones), it catches my eye right away, like hypnotized. But the bracelet is just terrible it doesn't match also the case. It feels tiny and it is not to the standard of the case which is "finition wise" magnificent and high quality. They just ruined it with this bracelet. It's frustrating.
Totally agree about the lume. As a recent new watch buyer I was so disappointed that the lume on my new Casio Edifice 140D faded out in 5 minutes. Even watch reviewers don't speak about it enough - I had to really hunt for a detailed explainer on lume and how it works to try to understand why the Casio's was so poor. They just shouldn't add those damned white strips which glow only for 10 minutes.
It’s a beautiful and underrated watch. I bought the chronograph-version with the blue bezel (EFS-S570DB). Same issue with the lume but I don’t mind… for me the shortfall is the quality of the bracelet and the difficulty to find a replacement for it.
The bracelet of this watch is the weak (really weak) point of this watch. I've done extensive searches for a quality aftermarket bracelet for Edifice watches, modding is non existent for Edifice. Now, my EQB-1100 and my EQB-1000 both can be compared to the quality of my Oceanus (OCW-S100, T200, OCW-T2600, OCW-T3000, and my G-Steel ( GM-B2100D-1AJF, GST-B100D, GST-B200D) Watches. The Quality and finishing of of these watches are all very close. Great solid bracelets. My EFS-S570 has a hollow bracelet like the EFR-D108. The watches are both very nice but they are undermined by Edifice's Choice of an inferior hollow bracelet for these 2 models. I would swap out the bracelets in a second if there were any. It does look like the EQB-1100 bracelet might fit the 570 though, but it would cost more than the EFR-D108, . The Edifice Octagonal models are the real Casioaks, Not the 2100 models.
Hey, thank you so much for the review. Accidentally watch your review when search review for casio duro, and definitely will go for this one, looks so beautiful.
Thanks for in-depth review! I've been eyeing this watch as a candidate for daily use for same criteria - not too big, not too thick, relatively clean dial, sapphire crystal, what's not to like, eh? Close-ups of case with chamfered and polished edges are sooo appealing....and then comes bracelet disappointment....wait, my cheapo Skmei with its native bracelet isn't rattling like that! But it could be link size - bigger links move more and sound is louder. Hollow links resonate too, right? I guess bracelet has hollow links to keep weight moderate as heavy bracelet of solid links and slim&light cases wouldn't go well together and that would be another complaint. Definitely worth watching this as very good manual of analyzing watch 👍 As for lume I guess it was used because Edifice series relates to motorsports/racing - thus also screw heads used in design (which isn't my cup of tea, frankly, but if price is right and all boxes are checked I could get over it). Like you ride through night on curvy road in open roadster and check time on wrist and all that stuff.
The small date window n poor lume isn't a deal breaker for me. Plus your right, the bracelet does squeak. But the price, size and looks make it a plus for me.
@@roybrolsbeak they are readily available if you google the model and integrated bracelet. Or you can fabricate the 1st link and put any bracelet after
Excellent review, very thorough. Beautiful watch. I don't care much about the lume, but the bracelet is a let down (specially when it can't be changed). I would pay easily pay more money for the watch, with a solid link bracelet.
From the close up on the underside you showed, are you sure a thin nato wouldn't work? Underneath looks wider then from the top looking down... like a nato might fit between pins and underside of lugs.
I have an old EFR-542... and it's solid metal, it fees very robust, I purchaced a new EQB-1100 which uses the same case/bracelet than this one and I am very dissapointed that casio went for this cheap feeling even with the more expensive watches
I have same issues on my Orient Kamasu, so i changed the braclet and it looks and feels great, but that watch are little hard to do the same thing. sad story.
Excellent and unbiased review, man! Although it has some flaws, I think I'll buy it. I really like the shape, the manufacture and it's not a big problem for me the sound the bracelet does :)
Hi Tomas. Thank you for your thorough review. I have 16cm and I am interested in these Casios. Please could you tell me what the weights are in grams, after having been adjusted for you, both for the Sapphire one, and the 35mm dial white watch. Thanks.
Very well picked up the point about the cheap lume which otherwise would have left elegant hands ...Deal breaker for me This watch caught my eye 👁 few days back when I was hunting G-Shock GA2100 grey tone watch
Great video bud. Keep it up. I ordered the EQB1000 which is the fancier version but I like this model better so I will probably return it and buy this model instead.
These watches give you so much more value for money. The luxury brands have become nothing but status symbols, fooling the rich into buying what is essentially overpriced trinkets. It used to take about $700 to make a Submariner, but stores sell it for $8,000 or more. But then here's Casio, asking just $100 for a quality timepiece that's more accurate. But no matter how well made it is or how accurate and reliable it is, it's not going to interest the rich because it doesn't cost $8,000.
Wow...i'm looking forward to buy this watch...i was thinking the same as you for the bracelet and lume...what a let down but i was wondering if that folded metal bracelet feels like Cerruti Pavia once i had before (love it but i have to sell it because it only have 2 hands and no second hands...feels like the watch is not moving😅)...then i have no issue about this watch
I've been watching tons of watch reviews lately, because I want to buy a new watch. Your review is brilliant, very honest. You seem to have the same priorities as me. Clean, simple, yet unique looks, slim, not too big but not too small either. You are absolutely spot on with your criticism. I can live with the weak lume, but I really don't understand why they put a non-exchangable bracelet on the watch, when so many people would like to change it for whatever reason. For example I own a Casio A700WE-1AEF, super slim watch with the most comfortable and timeless bracelet ever (not the mesh bracelet). Unfortunately the watch is too small for my taste. So now I would like to pair this Edifice with the bracelet of the A700 (or a similar one) but it's not possible. It would have been the perfect match for me. Really sad. However I think I will go for this Edifice because the upsides (design, size, weight, finish, Sapphire, WR, affordability, etc) outweigh the downsides by far. Thanks to your video I could make a fair assessment of this watch. You helped me tremendously. Thanks man! I wish you a happy new year.
What is your practical experience wearing the EFR-S108 for some time? Can you confirm hair rip off? If yes, only slightly, medium or strong? (In my understanding hair rip off can be different from person to person, may depend on hair thickness and especially the tightness of the bracelet) What about the "bad feel" noise? Does it actually occur when wearing the watch longer time? (Is it really present once the band length is optimized? If yes: Is it also for you such disturbing as felt by 'Tomas watch reviews'?) Did you notice some lengthening of the band? If yes, how much in about which time? (In my case I adjusted a brand new A-158 band by 1x 3.8mm step after about 2 weeks)
I understand lug-to-lug is 44.8mm (this 44.8mm is the correct measure to compare the optical impresson of watches on a wrist/to compare to other watches). 50mm is an additional help information when you measure in addition the first middle part/end links of the bracelet that on this watch is not rotating/held in a fixed position by the watch house (this measure depends also on the style/construction of all the different bracelets and cannot be used to compare watches easily). In my understanding nobody with a wrist width of 50mm or more should have any problem. Below 50mm it is a question of your personal asthetic view of wrist-width to lug-width for which you should best try the watch in person or fix some value your consider ideal for yourself.
You gotta try the casio a1000 with the silver brushed dial. solid metal 7mm thin. i changed the bracelet to a158 and its an excellent fit, i dont like the milanese bracelet.
WD40 is the unsung hero of everyday life. :) Bad joke aside, the watch is still awesome, it looks like a Tissot PRX on the hand, but it wouldn't be a Casio if it didn't have a crappy bracelet.
Tomas, fantastic review, thank you! Are the links easy to size? I have had some folded link Seikos that defeated me! (whilst I have no problem with pin and collar)
@@TomasWatchReviews thank you 👍🏻 I realise now that they are not the same method as the cheap Seikos that I've seen. My conclusion is the same as yours, definitely not perfect, but still tempting 😅
WARNING U R going into the rabbit hole ! .....................@@TomasWatchReviews check out the Weekender ( Chronograph ), Expedition & a plastic one ( 40+ titanium/ 50+ plastic ), Dress watches, Navi XL, & the Expedition Scout. Many more check it out, Amazon. The American Bostoc, keeps on ticking !
Hola Tomas Warch Reviews. La solucion para la correa del reloj podria ser ponerle la del Tissot PRX. Creo que puede servirle. Alguna forma de comprobarlo? Un saludo.
@@TomasWatchReviews thanks should I buy leather one or with metal strap I know metal looks cool but leather provides comfort. I will use it during study and parties only so metal strap or leather
Отличный обзор.К сожалению,не владею английским так хорошо как вы.А поменять браслет реально.Думаю,можно же что то подобрать?Этот "интегрированный" браслет снять вообще реально?
hi, I think it is possible, but you need to have a very good hands at fabricating small things. Take random 20mm solid bracelet and just cut the sides of the first link. Might work.. Sorry for English I use google translate for Russian.
might have improved something or you have another version. My friend has quartz Pro Diver that I was talking about and it has just a simple push pull crown.
@@TomasWatchReviews Thanks for your answer. I dont have your knowledge about watches , but i dont see much of a difference . I agree to all comments you did for EFR-S108D. I dont know if there would be a ny difference to the S107.
@@TomasWatchReviews I just checked and even the 300+ usd versions have the same bracelet. Except for the limited edition EQB-1100AT-2AER, where the international site specifically notes: ,,solid band". It's really a shame they are saving money on the bracelet even on the pricier models.
@@mariuszsch.79 Are you really sure that EFS-S570 and EFR-S108 do have the same bracelet? I have none in front of me, but already from the pictures/videos I have seen I concluded, both bracelets are NOT exchangeable/not the same. The differences are minor, yet important details. I agree both bracelets use the same technology and same style (both bracelets are made of U-links from the same production). But EFS-S570 has probably a 12mm slot matching the center width of the U-link while EFR-S108 has probably a 11mm slot in which a special not rotating/fixed center end-link is held against the watch wall. Looking on the direction of the U-link you can notice, in case of EFS-S570 it points towards the clasp while in case of the EFR-S108 it points in the opposite direction towards the watch house (a small and easy modification but with drastic consequences concerning interchangeability -is not possible-). Also the EFS-S570DC-1A has a quite high MSRP of 270$, mainly because of its gray Ion-plating coloration and I cannot imgine a rather high quality Japanes company like Casio to offer a bracelet that makes problems on 300$ watches. And long time ago (before I was born) hollow bracelets were a top item for their low weight. The real question for me is therefore, how well is this brand new 2020 design/production hollow bracelet compared to 50/70 year ago hollow production in real use over long time. Solid has clearly more inherent long term stability and also a different kind of noise but solid comes with the not avoidable great disadvantages of highest weight and highest cost and a 1.9mm thin folded watch band like it came with my just 20$ Casio A-158 is an impossible to reach thinness for solid (I estimate 2.5 perhaps 2.0mm is the lowest possible thinness with most solid bracelets offered around 3.5/4.0mm thickness). For me it would be interesting to see how this brand new hollow bracelet is constructed internally to have a first feeling on its longer term solidity. I just checked some huge watch, the Casio ECB-10D-2AEF and found solid links in the same U-link with a Casio ask price of just 160€ (I estimate this bracelet has a 13mm wide end-link and 24/26mm wide band so does not match). This low price for solid makes me even more wondering why Casio decided to offer hollow up to about 300$ and strongly questions for me the strong bashing of Tomas Watch Reviews against this hollow bracelet with the main reason given "It sounds strange which tells no good quality". For me a bracelet should be noiseless and it should also be clear that a hollow thin sheet metal bracelet should give another sound than a solid braclet with large contact area. So the point is, does somebody want to wear the bracelet well sitting/adjusted in length not to rip-off hair and not to make noise (my A-158 folded metal watch band is free of any noise) or are there a lot of people who like to wear this bracelet very loose to "enjoy" the hair rip-off as well as get distorted by noise. And I would consider seriously the question of some form of lubing to counteract the noise once it is clear/confirmed that this hollow bracelet has a sufficiently long wear/use time (my target would be 30 years minimum).
@@friedhelmschroter8124 The bracelets are not identical, I just meant the same technology behind it. Rolled links basically. I bought the EFS-S570 and the bracelet is actually ok. It's looks doesn't give away it's rolled, it's light but strong. Feels like it's gonna last a lifetime. When not on the wrist, it's a bit jingly-jangly, but when worn, no strange noises. I wear it tight though. It definitely doesn't feel premium but it's ok.
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thinner, more reliable and better precision than a royal oak, wonderful
@@innoc3ntbystndr quartz are way more precise than automatic watches
@@domenicocavo6182 except for seiko's springdrive
Are you serious ?...
I still think that the watch is amazing overall (especially for the price). It's not a great bracelet, true, but it remains functional enough and doesn't detract from an otherwise wonderful appearance and design. It has the virtue of being light as well (I hate heavy bracelets, even if they're of premium quality.) The loom is questionable, but it certainly doesn't bother me. I agree that a clean silver look would appear more elegant, but this strikes me as nitpicking. Anyway, the pros heavily outweigh the cons (which you yourself suggest at the beginning).
I have this watch. I also have the previous generation EFR-S107D, which has is not hexagonal. The new S108D improves on the older model in almost every way. This size reduction from 41mm to 39mm is very noticeable, and looks much more balanced as a result. The finishing of the case and the crown is much improved, including the transitions between the polished chamfered edges and brushed surfaces. The lume is much improved from the older model, still not great, but the indexes have lume whereas the older model didn't. The handset is also much more visible, being all white. The bracelet is a let down, but tapers nicely.
All in all, it's an absolute stunner. 👍🏼
For EFR-S107 Casio specifies 47.5×42.5×8.3mm, for EFR-S108 44.8x39.9x7.8mm. This means EFR-S108 is 2.7mm smaller (most important lug-lug: 47.5-44.8 or less important diameter 42.5-39.9).
I agree EFR-S108 looks more nice, but people perferring large watches/having a large wrist may find EFR-S107 looks more attractive on their wrist in size relation.
this guy is genius
He is prefessional precice, and analise all details deeply.
Although I'm willing to accept the bracelet (unsatisfactory though it is), the one major flaw is that the bracelet is difficult, if not impossible, to replace. I'm puzzled how Casio would not allow for this option. Not only should a bracelet be replaceable, but there should be at least a few alternative bracelets available. That's just common sense. The flaw aside, it's a great watch. My intuition, however, tells me that what Casio did is not attributable to simple stupidity or a lapse in good judgement. It may instead play a role in a subtle marketing strategy. To put it simply: design great, though imperfect, watches so as to stoke the fires of potential buyers. The very inadequacies, coupled with great quality, basically cause people to want more and more. Which generates more profit. Imperfections mean more upgrades: the customers MUST remain dissatisfied to some extent to keep them interested. In the process, Casio saves money by cutting corners. It's actually a brilliant strategy.
Totally agree. I always think that all Casio models are imperfect...and easily could almost perfect. A strategy for sell more watches. All casios are very good but no one casio almost perfect. Sometimes the size is wrong...other the color...the lume...always something...ummmm...it cant be coincidence...it s done on purpose
One thing I have noticed with people that buy dive watches is they never been diving in their whole life or even been swimming, yet people constantly complain about water resistance,lume strength and screw down crown. I own a dive watch purely because of its look, I own a dress watch, purely because of its look, I own a digital watch and also a beater watch again purely because of it look. What is the facination with RUclips reviewers as to why they complain so much when they review watches ? London, UK
And Mr.Tomas , you made a wonderful video , you did not forget any details , also you showed the watch on the wrist in term to present a perfect review
20:59 believe it or not the wd-40 idea worked! I used a thicker lubricant with a syringe added a very small amount into the link openings that can be seen on the edges when the links are folded over. It took about 10 minutes, i did have to wash with strong soap to wash away any overspill but the bracelet does not squeak anymore and sounds much much better. love the watch
honestly this lubricant should have been added during the assembly process
Screw down crown doesn't provide the 200m rating. It's the gasket inside. Screw down crowns just make it safer from knocks. There are 50m wr watches with screw down crowns, and 200m ones without. Manufacturers often pair these features but they aren't connected.
That's a great watch review from a gentleman who loves wearing watches. That's what I see when I watched it and I really like hearing someone's opinions who uses the watches regularly instead of some youtubers just reviewing them for their videos. Great video, keep it up!
I absolutely agree with every point you've made. You made a great point about how Casio just fell short of making the watch to its full potential - by having solid links and good industry-standard lume. I would gladly pay for such a premium product. Do you work in any field of design? Particularly product design? Just curious because your attention to detail fits the attributes of someone that works in that field. Great insights! Subscribed!
no, I am just a small bicycle retailer :) but my passion for photography might help me in things like that.
Looking at 22:09 I think you are wrong to state this bracelet is integrated.
I see dark edges all around the end-link (center part) of the bracelet clearly indicating a separate part. But in my image this end-link seems to be a very special design that does not allow any up and down movement (it is very tightly fitted, not to the sides/lugs, but to the top/watch housing). And on both sides I see something round I consider to be a spring bar that holds the end-link in position between the lugs.
Trying to remove/Removing the end link connected to the watch lugs should clarify if this bracelet can be exchanged and attaching another bracelet would show if the watch to bracelet transition still looks reasonable. And measuring the lug width as well as the spring bar center and tip diameter would help to judge if it is easy to find a straigth ended bracelet and matching spring bar or if the spring bar can even be used on another bracelet.
What is the thickness of the EFR-S108D bracelet? And how is it tapered?
(I just bought an A-158 digital watch and was surprised to find that its 18mm lug-width metal band -band width 21.4mm at the lugs tapered down to 15mm over 4 links- has a thickness of just 1.9mm. It looks like 3 layers are folded/intertwined, because within the 1.9mm I can measure down to 1.6mm and at both ends there are small areas of single layer at 0.5mm thickness.
Due to a step width of 3.8mm in length adjustment I feel an ideal tightness before and directly after 1 step adjustment, because of a little lengthening within the first days. In this ideal tight position -no up and down movement on the wrist- I never noticed any hair rip off by too tight distance between the links -link-to-link distance is difficult to measure, I estimate it typically to be 0.3mm with a minimum of 0.2 or 0.25mm, this means much larger than my thin hair- and because of no sharp edges there is also no hair shave off.)
I understand the felt (rather heard) negative point on this hollow link bracelel is its strange sound. But in my understanding an ideally lengthened bracelet should not really move on the wrist and make any sound (on my A-158 I cannot hear any sound). Solid links do sound "better" and their heavy weight leaves somehow the impression of solidity. However, heavy weight is on the other side a negative when you permanently feel a disturbance like what is this heavy weight on my watch side wrist. And is the solidity of for example a 4mm thick watch bracelet really necessary. I think nearly nobody is able to tear a plastic band apart. And the same applies in my image to the weakest point 0.5mm thick metal band of my A-158.
Another point ls the the long term stability in lengthening. Here I see some advantage for solid metal links, but I am asking me if it is really necessary to use 4mm thick solid links or if 2.5mm or 3.0mm thick will not show nearly the same long term stability with the advantage of a much lower weight.
Casio, listen to these reviews. You have an almost perfect watch. Improve the Lume. Come on!
I perfectly agree with you. I bought this watch for my son's birthday last year. It looks amazing on him. He even got compliments at school. Whenever he wears (because he doesn't wear it all the time, new generation with mobile phones), it catches my eye right away, like hypnotized. But the bracelet is just terrible it doesn't match also the case. It feels tiny and it is not to the standard of the case which is "finition wise" magnificent and high quality. They just ruined it with this bracelet. It's frustrating.
I agree about the lume; you should either do it properly or not at all. I think they should have gone for the sleek look with all metal markings.
yes, such a missed opportunity to create the most elegant Edifice..
Totally agree about the lume. As a recent new watch buyer I was so disappointed that the lume on my new Casio Edifice 140D faded out in 5 minutes. Even watch reviewers don't speak about it enough - I had to really hunt for a detailed explainer on lume and how it works to try to understand why the Casio's was so poor. They just shouldn't add those damned white strips which glow only for 10 minutes.
It’s a beautiful and underrated watch. I bought the chronograph-version with the blue bezel (EFS-S570DB). Same issue with the lume but I don’t mind… for me the shortfall is the quality of the bracelet and the difficulty to find a replacement for it.
The bracelet of this watch is the weak (really weak) point of this watch. I've done extensive searches for a quality aftermarket bracelet for Edifice watches, modding is non existent for Edifice. Now, my EQB-1100 and my EQB-1000 both can be compared to the quality of my Oceanus (OCW-S100, T200, OCW-T2600, OCW-T3000, and my G-Steel ( GM-B2100D-1AJF, GST-B100D, GST-B200D) Watches. The Quality and finishing of of these watches are all very close. Great solid bracelets. My EFS-S570 has a hollow bracelet like the EFR-D108. The watches are both very nice but they are undermined by Edifice's Choice of an inferior hollow bracelet for these 2 models. I would swap out the bracelets in a second if there were any. It does look like the EQB-1100 bracelet might fit the 570 though, but it would cost more than the EFR-D108, . The Edifice Octagonal models are the real Casioaks, Not the 2100 models.
Hey, thank you so much for the review. Accidentally watch your review when search review for casio duro, and definitely will go for this one, looks so beautiful.
Thanks for in-depth review! I've been eyeing this watch as a candidate for daily use for same criteria - not too big, not too thick, relatively clean dial, sapphire crystal, what's not to like, eh? Close-ups of case with chamfered and polished edges are sooo appealing....and then comes bracelet disappointment....wait, my cheapo Skmei with its native bracelet isn't rattling like that! But it could be link size - bigger links move more and sound is louder. Hollow links resonate too, right? I guess bracelet has hollow links to keep weight moderate as heavy bracelet of solid links and slim&light cases wouldn't go well together and that would be another complaint. Definitely worth watching this as very good manual of analyzing watch 👍
As for lume I guess it was used because Edifice series relates to motorsports/racing - thus also screw heads used in design (which isn't my cup of tea, frankly, but if price is right and all boxes are checked I could get over it). Like you ride through night on curvy road in open roadster and check time on wrist and all that stuff.
i got the white one for 80 bucks and i just bought a quality 20 dollar white rubberstrap to make it much better
It is the most beautiful edifice watch i’ve ever seen
The small date window n poor lume isn't a deal breaker for me. Plus your right, the bracelet does squeak. But the price, size and looks make it a plus for me.
Very good review, i love your logic in assessing the watch usefulness.
Stunning watch design. Slim yes very muscular look. Thanks for a great review . This has been on my list of watches to get for a year or so.
The folded bracelet is actually a big plus.
Nowadays bracelets are huge chunky and heavy. Very uncomfortable.
I love how you measure the watch manually, but Im curious to really see the number indicated by your vernier.
I understand, but don't wanna be all about specs and measurements. I want to be more about the feel.
I''m getting this watch. I like how this guy nitpicks things. It's kind of enduring.
i think the worst thing about the watch is, that you cannot change the strap. they do it with a lot of their watches and its a no go for me
yes you can
@@emanuelv19 how..
@@roybrolsbeak they are readily available if you google the model and integrated bracelet. Or you can fabricate the 1st link and put any bracelet after
Excellent review, very thorough. Beautiful watch. I don't care much about the lume, but the bracelet is a let down (specially when it can't be changed). I would pay easily pay more money for the watch, with a solid link bracelet.
Just ordered one !!! Eagerly awaiting the CASIO OAKish
No 1 negative is that integrated bracelet. I've heard it's impossible to replace with your own strap... otherwise it'd be a major buy
From the close up on the underside you showed, are you sure a thin nato wouldn't work? Underneath looks wider then from the top looking down... like a nato might fit between pins and underside of lugs.
Invicta lost me too but I had great memories. I gave forty Invicta to fiends and family
I have an old EFR-542... and it's solid metal, it fees very robust, I purchaced a new EQB-1100 which uses the same case/bracelet than this one and I am very dissapointed that casio went for this cheap feeling even with the more expensive watches
I have same issues on my Orient Kamasu, so i changed the braclet and it looks and feels great, but that watch are little hard to do the same thing.
sad story.
I want that watch but it doesn’t appear to be available in the states. I discovered it’s not exactly ez finding a simple watch, with sapphire glass.
the first honesty review on this watch. 👍🇮🇹 Alternative?
S107L
This looks clean af, i will buy it. Thanks for this video brother.
Excellent and unbiased review, man! Although it has some flaws, I think I'll buy it. I really like the shape, the manufacture and it's not a big problem for me the sound the bracelet does :)
I prefer the sound over the weight sincerely. For me its ok
My next watch, I don't Care about the bracelet. I love it! 😁
I got mine today, I came with a solid metal clasp, not the pressed metal clasp mentioned in the video, means this watch got a different vision.
makes me feel bad about Casio.. :( and how is the bracelet? Solid or folded metal?
kinda feel the same. I got the citizen automatic with titanium bracelet and since it was too light, the watch did look cheap
i got lucky to buy this as my first watch
‘ Folded Metal Links’
End of the world.
I’m not sleeping tonight
Hi Tomas. Thank you for your thorough review. I have 16cm and I am interested in these Casios. Please could you tell me what the weights are in grams, after having been adjusted for you, both for the Sapphire one, and the 35mm dial white watch. Thanks.
Very well picked up the point about the cheap lume which otherwise would have left elegant hands ...Deal breaker for me
This watch caught my eye 👁 few days back when I was hunting G-Shock GA2100 grey tone watch
yes GA2100 looks nice
Great video bud. Keep it up. I ordered the EQB1000 which is the fancier version but I like this model better so I will probably return it and buy this model instead.
We would like to see more close-up shots of the watch.
These watches give you so much more value for money. The luxury brands have become nothing but status symbols, fooling the rich into buying what is essentially overpriced trinkets. It used to take about $700 to make a Submariner, but stores sell it for $8,000 or more.
But then here's Casio, asking just $100 for a quality timepiece that's more accurate. But no matter how well made it is or how accurate and reliable it is, it's not going to interest the rich because it doesn't cost $8,000.
Watching in London UK, great video. Cheers Tom
Totally agree whit your review, Casio has difficultuies making sub 100$ watches, thank you so much.
Great review.....I hope Casio is watching.....A PENNY WISE A POUND FOOLISH.....
I don't care about the cheap bracelet. What I care about is that it can't be replaced.
Great video! Thanks for such an honest review!
Wow...i'm looking forward to buy this watch...i was thinking the same as you for the bracelet and lume...what a let down but i was wondering if that folded metal bracelet feels like Cerruti Pavia once i had before (love it but i have to sell it because it only have 2 hands and no second hands...feels like the watch is not moving😅)...then i have no issue about this watch
I would prefer white dial in this watch. Love this watch
There is a white dial version, the 7av. Very hard to find at the moment.
@@NotoriousK_I_T Easy to find! I can find about 10 in a few minutes.
@@NathanChisholm041 links?
And if you look around their even cheaper!
@@NathanChisholm041 links?
I can take the bracelet and the lume, what bugs me is the none screw caseback
very good review . Extremely clear thought
Great video Braliukas! I'll definitely buy it!
Hello,I've recently discovered your channel. Which watch would you choose between efr 108d or efr 107d? Thank you and continue a good work.
I would think about EFB-108D (not efr)
Great detailed review mate. Thanks for the info! 👍
we need more reviews from you!
Very good review like always!
Very nice video man, you are a real watch enthusiast
I have (solid) titanium light bracelet on another Casio and it is OK.
I've been watching tons of watch reviews lately, because I want to buy a new watch. Your review is brilliant, very honest. You seem to have the same priorities as me. Clean, simple, yet unique looks, slim, not too big but not too small either.
You are absolutely spot on with your criticism. I can live with the weak lume, but I really don't understand why they put a non-exchangable bracelet on the watch, when so many people would like to change it for whatever reason. For example I own a Casio A700WE-1AEF, super slim watch with the most comfortable and timeless bracelet ever (not the mesh bracelet). Unfortunately the watch is too small for my taste. So now I would like to pair this Edifice with the bracelet of the A700 (or a similar one) but it's not possible. It would have been the perfect match for me. Really sad.
However I think I will go for this Edifice because the upsides (design, size, weight, finish, Sapphire, WR, affordability, etc) outweigh the downsides by far. Thanks to your video I could make a fair assessment of this watch. You helped me tremendously. Thanks man! I wish you a happy new year.
Thank you! The bracelet is not that bad, it has very smooth edges, feels good. Light, but the watch itself is not a heavy one either..
What is your practical experience wearing the EFR-S108 for some time?
Can you confirm hair rip off?
If yes, only slightly, medium or strong?
(In my understanding hair rip off can be different from person to person, may depend on hair thickness and especially the tightness of the bracelet)
What about the "bad feel" noise? Does it actually occur when wearing the watch longer time? (Is it really present once the band length is optimized? If yes: Is it also for you such disturbing as felt by 'Tomas watch reviews'?)
Did you notice some lengthening of the band? If yes, how much in about which time?
(In my case I adjusted a brand new A-158 band by 1x 3.8mm step after about 2 weeks)
Hi.. But is not SOLAR... This year the same mod. Solar with Safire glass
Why does it have to be so large in lug to lug. I'd love to buy this watch but 5 cm would look ridiculous
I understand lug-to-lug is 44.8mm (this 44.8mm is the correct measure to compare the optical impresson of watches on a wrist/to compare to other watches).
50mm is an additional help information when you measure in addition the first middle part/end links of the bracelet that on this watch is not rotating/held in a fixed position by the watch house (this measure depends also on the style/construction of all the different bracelets and cannot be used to compare watches easily).
In my understanding nobody with a wrist width of 50mm or more should have any problem. Below 50mm it is a question of your personal asthetic view of wrist-width to lug-width for which you should best try the watch in person or fix some value your consider ideal for yourself.
@@friedhelmschroter8124 i realized that the lugs are angeled steeply enough to fit me. I just bought it today so I hope that they are gonna look good
You gotta try the casio a1000 with the silver brushed dial. solid metal 7mm thin. i changed the bracelet to a158 and its an excellent fit, i dont like the milanese bracelet.
they are very nice, but a bit expensive at the moment. Unless I find a used one for a good price.
WD40 is the unsung hero of everyday life. :)
Bad joke aside, the watch is still awesome, it looks like a Tissot PRX on the hand, but it wouldn't be a Casio if it didn't have a crappy bracelet.
Wd40? what watch is it?😶
Hai Thom, Are the EFR-S107L-1AV can change strap to Stainless Steel?
How do you change the date marker on the watch? Would be great to include such details in the review. Very detailed otherwise.
does not look like these Edifice bands are interchangeable. Masters in Time stock a lot of Casio bands. good starting place for bands.
Very good review thank You. J wonder too buy this watch, but after Your review J'm not going to buy this watch. Lume is very important for me. Thanks
check Addiesdive Pilot, good lume, clean design, might gonna like it.
Tomas, fantastic review, thank you!
Are the links easy to size? I have had some folded link Seikos that defeated me! (whilst I have no problem with pin and collar)
yes, they are easy to size as any other random bracelet, same.
@@TomasWatchReviews thank you 👍🏻 I realise now that they are not the same method as the cheap Seikos that I've seen.
My conclusion is the same as yours, definitely not perfect, but still tempting 😅
look for the arrows on links.
I have two Edifice love em ! In my collection of budget watches. I want it !
🤫 Timex, Casio, Bostoc, & 🇨🇳 watches.
what Timex would you recommend? Never had Timex.
WARNING U R going into the rabbit hole ! .....................@@TomasWatchReviews check out the Weekender ( Chronograph ), Expedition & a plastic one ( 40+ titanium/ 50+ plastic ), Dress watches, Navi XL, & the Expedition Scout. Many more check it out, Amazon. The American Bostoc, keeps on ticking !
@@skistrycharski6999 Thanks!
My wrist size is similar to yours. So I had concern to your video. Thank you.
This is a really nice looking watch. I just wish that it was a big smaller and had bracelet similar to the royal oak.
which watch is the casio model with the purple strap? couldn't quite understand what you said, thanks!
nice review. i think this is still a very very good watch . i will probably pull the trigger.
How do you adjust the links? I can't find a propper video on it, thanks!
Does it have a screw-down crown and how do you think it would handle frequent sea immersion of up to 1h?
Would the bracket from the EFB-108D-7AV fit it???
Two questions;
1. Can you replace bracelet..if yes what size width?
2. What is the product code for the other watch?
Great video
It's an integrated bracelet. You can remove it, but not replace it.
@@NotoriousK_I_T wat about the older model 107d?
You can swap for a 20mm strap
Hola Tomas Warch Reviews.
La solucion para la correa del reloj podria ser ponerle la del Tissot PRX. Creo que puede servirle. Alguna forma de comprobarlo?
Un saludo.
Have no idea :)
Hi Tomas should I buy Casio edifice efrs-107 with lather strap or Casio Enticer mts 100d
have not tried them, but Edifice looks cooler.
@@TomasWatchReviews thanks should I buy leather one or with metal strap I know metal looks cool but leather provides comfort. I will use it during study and parties only so metal strap or leather
I'm going to buy it
Часы очень популярны в России, и я заказал себе данную модель. Жду с нетерпением!
I love your review bro ....❤❤😊😊I am your subscriber now after this review ❤
Отличный обзор.К сожалению,не владею английским так хорошо как вы.А поменять браслет реально.Думаю,можно же что то подобрать?Этот "интегрированный" браслет снять вообще реально?
hi, I think it is possible, but you need to have a very good hands at fabricating small things. Take random 20mm solid bracelet and just cut the sides of the first link. Might work.. Sorry for English I use google translate for Russian.
@@TomasWatchReviews Thank You very much,I understood You
Have you tried finding a way to lube the bracelet? I love this watch but hate the bracelet's sound :(
tried lubing it in with a hand cream, did not help.. :/
@@TomasWatchReviews If it works I would move it one tier higher in my wishlist haha
Correction: I purchased the quartz Invicta diver watch a month ago and it definitely has a screw down crown.
might have improved something or you have another version. My friend has quartz Pro Diver that I was talking about and it has just a simple push pull crown.
😊😂 that's so strange... but always likes your reviews 👍🏻
What similar watch do you recommend sir? Simple, accurate , not expensive .
if you like this, you might like Edifice S107
@@TomasWatchReviews Thanks for your answer. I dont have your knowledge about watches , but i dont see much of a difference . I agree to all comments you did for EFR-S108D. I dont know if there would be a ny difference to the S107.
@@babakopoulo s107 has removable bracelet/leather strap. While S108 does not.
@@TomasWatchReviews Thank you sir.
@@TomasWatchReviews Ι am also like the Seiko SUR277P1, serious and mens watch.Of course without sapphire.
Great video..I love mine!
You should review the EFS-S570D-1AUEF. It's also solar. I wonder if it has the same bracelet though ...
looks like it is the same
@@TomasWatchReviews I just checked and even the 300+ usd versions have the same bracelet. Except for the limited edition EQB-1100AT-2AER, where the international site specifically notes: ,,solid band". It's really a shame they are saving money on the bracelet even on the pricier models.
@@mariuszsch.79 wouldn't pay more then a 50usd for a watch with this bracelet.. No matter how good the watch is.
@@mariuszsch.79
Are you really sure that EFS-S570 and EFR-S108 do have the same bracelet?
I have none in front of me, but already from the pictures/videos I have seen I concluded, both bracelets are NOT exchangeable/not the same.
The differences are minor, yet important details.
I agree both bracelets use the same technology and same style (both bracelets are made of U-links from the same production). But EFS-S570 has probably a 12mm slot matching the center width of the U-link while EFR-S108 has probably a 11mm slot in which a special not rotating/fixed center end-link is held against the watch wall. Looking on the direction of the U-link you can notice, in case of EFS-S570 it points towards the clasp while in case of the EFR-S108 it points in the opposite direction towards the watch house (a small and easy modification but with drastic consequences concerning interchangeability -is not possible-).
Also the EFS-S570DC-1A has a quite high MSRP of 270$, mainly because of its gray Ion-plating coloration and I cannot imgine a rather high quality Japanes company like Casio to offer a bracelet that makes problems on 300$ watches. And long time ago (before I was born) hollow bracelets were a top item for their low weight. The real question for me is therefore, how well is this brand new 2020 design/production hollow bracelet compared to 50/70 year ago hollow production in real use over long time.
Solid has clearly more inherent long term stability and also a different kind of noise but solid comes with the not avoidable great disadvantages of highest weight and highest cost and a 1.9mm thin folded watch band like it came with my just 20$ Casio A-158 is an impossible to reach thinness for solid (I estimate 2.5 perhaps 2.0mm is the lowest possible thinness with most solid bracelets offered around 3.5/4.0mm thickness).
For me it would be interesting to see how this brand new hollow bracelet is constructed internally to have a first feeling on its longer term solidity.
I just checked some huge watch, the Casio ECB-10D-2AEF and found solid links in the same U-link with a Casio ask price of just 160€ (I estimate this bracelet has a 13mm wide end-link and 24/26mm wide band so does not match). This low price for solid makes me even more wondering why Casio decided to offer hollow up to about 300$ and strongly questions for me the strong bashing of Tomas Watch Reviews against this hollow bracelet with the main reason given "It sounds strange which tells no good quality". For me a bracelet should be noiseless and it should also be clear that a hollow thin sheet metal bracelet should give another sound than a solid braclet with large contact area. So the point is, does somebody want to wear the bracelet well sitting/adjusted in length not to rip-off hair and not to make noise (my A-158 folded metal watch band is free of any noise) or are there a lot of people who like to wear this bracelet very loose to "enjoy" the hair rip-off as well as get distorted by noise.
And I would consider seriously the question of some form of lubing to counteract the noise once it is clear/confirmed that this hollow bracelet has a sufficiently long wear/use time (my target would be 30 years minimum).
@@friedhelmschroter8124 The bracelets are not identical, I just meant the same technology behind it. Rolled links basically. I bought the EFS-S570 and the bracelet is actually ok. It's looks doesn't give away it's rolled, it's light but strong. Feels like it's gonna last a lifetime. When not on the wrist, it's a bit jingly-jangly, but when worn, no strange noises. I wear it tight though. It definitely doesn't feel premium but it's ok.
ohh you beauty .. i love this watch already ❣❣
Can anyone tell me if it is possible to set the date independently of the time?
yes
Can bracelet be changed with aftermarket one?