Ah yes "Piece of candy" syndrome as I like to call it. Signing too many wonderkids because you can. Then not having enough playing time/ training attention/ good loan options for them to all develop. I always try my best to limit myself per position to an amount, depending on my club's situation.
There is one other thing that works 90% of the time with players that are willing to go but have no one interested in them. After you offer them out and no one bids, there is an option in the lower right corner to "persuade the player to find a new club". Usually, they'll come after a couple of weeks with some random club they are willing to go to that makes an offer.
@George this may help you: when you want to get a guy of your payroll but no one wants to sign him there is a (loophole?). 1. Set the guy on the transferlist. 2. look for a youth player of a bigger team that your player would want to get transferred to (sometimes they don´t want the transfer so you have to test teams). 3. add the player you want to loose in the negotiation (it´s one of the options in the screen when you negotiate the price named (add player of Transferlist/loan list). For me i got a lot of deadwood over 30 from 3. tier team Kaiserslautern in Germany send that way into the higher Leagues and off my payroll. p.s. i did it with the crappiest youth player they got so i didn´t have to pay them a lot of money to loose my wage burdens.
I miss this type of educational videos with all the entertainment D: So much changed in FM that new videos about the same topics would we so awesome to have! Love you Z
The unwanted list function is actually really good if you haven't used it. You need to mess with DOF responsibilities and attributes to get it right but when you have a DOF with good negotiation you can essentially click 5 players into the list, set your terms and then wait for the final click to come in your newsfeed. I do this at the start of new saves and when the new season kicks in, it seems to annoy players less than being transfer listed and offered out manually.
I am a lot more brutal when selling players. I tend to drop them to youth teams and tell them they aren’t wanted, then I offer them out for more money and when nobody bids I ask them to look for clubs. Then I offer them out for free to get teams interested and then reject offers and offer them to individual clubs. Works wonders as a big team and can sell most players in first few weeks. Eg started at Hamburg had Sven Ulreich valued at 3 million and had just signed and didn’t want to leave, did this and got 9 million from Ajax for him.
Let me be the first to say that the offer out option to target specific clubs is a godsend. I played my way up from Brazilian Serie C to Serie A and as I’m in Brazil I have a lot of Brazilian wonderkids that are just coming up through the ranks (now that I’m as big as flamengo). When they start to get agitated because Man United and Liverpool start looking at the player I can offer my player directly to man united Liverpool workout labeling him as surplus and sell him without hurting the dynamics of my club.
Eae mano beleza, vc tem o brasileirao atualizado ou vc joga com o normal do jogo? po eu tento deixar atualizado o máximo possível mas nunca acho kits por exemplo ai o jogo fica foda com o palmeiras usando vermelho dentro de campo kkkkkk
Yea it actually worked for me a couple times. I had 2 dudes that were "wanted" but whenever i would just offer to clubs in general, nobody would bite. I targeted the clubs that allegedly wanted them, and they both offered.
Also pretty good to just click on transfer and pick some "reasonable" amount when you only get a loan offer in instead of a transfer offer, doesn't always work and they reject pretty often but from time to time it works.
Bro, you forgot about offering them a mutual contract termination. Sometimes they will accept it for no fee, and then you've got them off your books. Either that or you anger them and then they're more apt to want to leave.
Hey Zealand, great stuff as always. However, you have missed one key point. If you are managing a club with good finances and don't want to keep a certain player, you can offer some of his wages out while transfer listing him. I have several instances where some greedy players wants contract after 6 good matches in an entire season, I make them angrier by not giving them contracts and immediately kicking them out by offering out some wages. But this case is only applicable if you're managing clubs with deep pockets. Teams tend to offer good amount of money if you lock some salary of the selling player. Also, the contribution lasts till the player's contract, so a win win if you calculate your net earning from the transfer. Example: Kolo toure had high wages and I didn't wanted in my club, offered him out without contract contribution, none of the club's were interested because of his fat paycheck. Then I offered him out with a min of 7k per week (lowest option) and kept it at yellow so that the club's won't increase that by much and 2-3 club's took the bait and paid me 5 mil. So 5 mil - 350k is my net profit (1 year contract with 7 k per week)
Great tips, Z. The trick that worked great for me was actually putting unwanted players on the game squad, on the last sub#6 or sub#7, and put them in already-won last 15min of the games. I don't care if they only come up to 6.0 on their game score, the main goal here is keeping them running with the squad to keep their interest from other clubs high and getting much faster and higher offers for them
a little trick for people who want a big database is to create one with the leagues you want and then after its created and you can pick a team save that as an extra game. so you can always use a big database without having to create it each time and sitting there for hours everytime.
The top Greek teams are of the extremes. They'll develop their young players (Greek or foreign) while they'll also sign four or five ageing players on free transfers. Usually, the transfers between clubs are free transfers and, in some cases, the buying team pays a hefty amount in compensation to help the selling club after losing a player. The fact that most transfers are free allows them to have more wage budget available to them, hence the higher wages that might appear.
Nice video. (apart from the unwanted list option that was mentioned in other commentaries already,) you forgot the trade option: look for a decent club he might wanne join, or that might be able to pay the wages... and which got a player that is kinda interesting for yourself, then try a trade. you will have to add some money, most likely, but its still a valuable option if you really want to get rid of someone who isn't willing to leave or who you can't sell because of high wages.
A few notes on the target club feature. 1) It really needs the option of Target All Interested Clubs 2) I find this feature useful when offering players for loan. There's an option to target all clubs from x nation. I find this great when I've bought a foreign youngster not ready for the 1st team who doesn't speak the language. Let him go to his home country, train/play in a familiar environment and have him on a language course at the same time.
Ha the anger tactics - anyone remember in early champs/FM's when you would fine the player a weeks wages as often as you could just because so they would get so p****d off they'd leave. I remember I think it was Ray Wallace from Leeds on FM93 just would not leave and after months he finally would and you'd have the reaction that Zealand had at the start of this video!
If you really want a challenge try selling Pastore (AS Roma) before his contract expires. Used most of these options and have been unsuccessful in 3 different saves
I've come back to this video so many times, it's insane. I especially liked how you pointed out how overpaid English players are. I tend to stockpile young talent and it's always funny to me when some 16 year old who plays for Man City's youth academy's C team demands 100k a year. FOH!
I always use the "future matches play" thingy, it let me get more money than their original offer most of the time but I usually pay 1/2 of the players wages when loan him out because the club that want to buy him can't afford and I make sure to have him as important player/ regular starter when loaning them out.
When selling Ive found setting selling team wage contribution to £1 per week as its the lowest it can go and it keeps the offers higher and teams interested. idk if it actually works or that it just looks like it does but it might be worth testing
If they kick up a fuss and are unhappy and effecting morale, move them to your reserves which removes them and their negative influence on the first team.
I noticed this when I threw Martinelli to reserves cuz he was unhappy I offered him out…he came back better when I brought him to the squad I even had to give him a new contract
Forced Marc Roca out the door from Newcastle to Zenit... needed him gone for registration slots and because he'd fallen down the order. Sold for around 20m at a 6m loss, the guy is now my "rival" in the dynamics page!
WHAAAAAAT, WHAAAT THE HECK, 7.10 on time, I play fm for like 10 years but until now I didnt know there was a thing called Targets where you can choose exact club to offer player to !!!!! THANK YOU ZEALAND !
I spend the first 3 years of nearly ever save just tying to get rid of all of the oldies, youth team fillers, and the players who will never get a game for me. The board usually gets really upset at me for letting a lot of them go for super cheap. But if I can use the wages from 3 players who will never play on a player who will actually make a difference, so be it.
*player on last year of his contract, unlikely to be sold* *player is on £500 per week* *team comes in with loan offer, willing to pay 100% of wages* *I reduce the % to zero, raise the used/unused fee to 3 times the player’s wage* *profit*
Myself and Alexandre lacazette have a special but complicated relationship. In real life I don’t mind him, he can be quite good. On fm he has had 1 consistent season for me since fm19, constantly drops below a 6.6 rating no matter the opponent and no sod wants to buy him The 1 good season was a 424 attacking as a dlf alongside aubameyang so it was mainly assists
Unfortunately A-League teams are very restricted by a salary cap. Which is currently 2.43m person with a minimum spend of 1.7m there are several exemptions to this Marquee players and the like but they need approval of the governing body. The average wage is currently somewhere between 45k and 62.5k per year.
My team 32 years old captain that has declining performance and breakdown suddenly decided to quit and retire and saved me from all the trouble in the world…
@@thepurefan9240 Actually in FM I have seen AEK also paying a lot after moving to their new ground and Panathinaikos after been sold to a new owner. In contrast PAOK reduces its budget and sometime their owner leaves the club.
@@thepurefan9240 I was talking about FM but if you want to talk about the real world... The truth is that Olympiacos has the best team by far as we speak... None of the rest are comparable to them... PAOK and AEK are almost at the same level right now and then comes Panathinaikos and Aris who has been quite improved last year. Historically speaking there are three major teams in Greece and those are Olympiacos Panathinaikos and AEK.
i only loaded english league's database on my first playthrough because i didnt know it was important to load others :( i dont wana start again is there a way to load more databases once u started a save?
The trick to getting team leaders off the team is reducing their playing time slowly over while having someone better playing in their position, basically their replacement should be getting 2-3 times more gametime, but dont reduce the playing time drastically, if he played every game in a 2 game week, make that 1 game a week and the next month 1 game every other week and maintain that or you could go down to once a month but the may not be too pleased
There was a time where I had like 120 players on the club and 60 of them I loaned out to lower the wages and make some money of them because on one hand, i believed that they would be better to play for me or sell them for a higher price, but in the same time, I knew they were never going to play. So I decided to sell some but for a lot, didn't get offers. End of story, I decided to lower the amount of players to like, 100, and ended up increasing it to 135 because I sign a lot of under 21 players
@@sparkz2337 always making money. Low wages and loan fees (arround 20M per year). Have in mind that I took that team from the portuguese third to first division, so the 100 players issue came arround 4th season, because I bought young players but those who I tried to sell had a value of like 10k. The biggest problem was competing with the big 3 who completly outspended me. But european football, first Europa then Champions did the trick. Never had debt. Had arround 60M in the bank arround 7th/8th season and the board took 20M debt to build a new stadium. Other then that, no debt
@@pedrofrancisco2291 wow, im from portugal too lol, what team was this ? cuz rn im managing beira-mar and im at the second tier and there were probably better options
I've had some success (by now means universal, though) on occasion offering players out specifically to a club who is showing 'major interest' in him. Can be particularly effective if there are a couple of clubs showing interest who aren't in terrible financial positions; you can potentially get a bidding war started that way.
What if you have a "very close" relationship with the player in question and you want to sell him but don't want to hurt his feelings/damage the relationship?
It is challenging to play Man Utd and tried to rebuild the team and salary structure. I mean selling those high-wage earners/I don't like/not suitable for my tactics...... Pogba, Lingard, Andreas, Phil Jones, Matic, Fred, Telles, Martial, Lindelof, Bailly, DDG, Chong....etc. And I need this video very much.
@@mugenjean7944 Well yeah it just depends how long you consider 'slow' is. Use a decently old laptop with multiple leagues and it takes some time going between days but is definitely bearable. Guess if you consider more than 10s slow then fair enough.
u can try to offer a player out with unspecified amount and select installments totaling your selling price. teams will counter with cash offers up to that value
when you want to get a guy of your payroll but no one wants to sign him there is a (loophole?). 1. Set the guy on the transferlist. 2. look for a youth player of a bigger team that your player would want to get transferred to (sometimes they don´t want the transfer so you have to test teams). 3. add the player you want to loose in the negotiation (it´s one of the options in the screen when you negotiate the price named (add player of Transferlist/loan list). For me i got a lot of deadwood over 30 from 3. tier team Kaiserslautern in Germany send that way into the higher Leagues and off my payroll. p.s. i did it with the crappiest youth player they got so i didn´t have to pay them a lot of money to loose my wage burdens.
@@beasaboy14 but the crappy youthfull deadwood gets thousands to replace crappy old deadwood that gets millions so it's a pretty good deal all things considered
The worst experience i had selling player was with guendouzi. He refused to leave. He has a 4 year contract at the start and it took me 3 years to get rid of him. He would only go on loan which i manage to get on deadline day so his value dosnt drop to low. But finally after 3 years of being on loan for championship teams he finally left. This was my first time of being held as an hostage by a player
Got a vice captain that actually isn’t that highly regarded in the dressing room and is a 3 star on my team about to hit 30. Planning to get rid of him this summer but I’m scared about how that’s gonna go
Had the Nuss issue with Cheryshev on my Valencia save. 2 Turkish teams willing to pay £9 mil over the year but he refused to leave. He then demanded to go to CSKA on loan and I'm still paying 70% of his wage 🤦🏼♂️
Zealand I have one question that you either didn't cover in this piece on selling players or I somehow missed your discussion regarding it... I apologize if it is the latter of those. What do you do when you get transfer offers, the player is willing to accept (after a morale breakdown), but your POS board refuses to let the player leave because they "feel he is too valuable for the team" despite his contract and poor stats making him an anchor around your neck? If it matters, my save is in the English leagues... and by saying that and "board problems" you probably already have a good guess which team I am on for the save. I started a save with a team that had 2 first squad GK by default before I started the save. Both were what I call "has been former greats", but one at least accepted that he was over the hill and that he was a backup at best. Even worse, both had expensive and terribly designed contracts. The backup Gk was relatively easy to transfer, but the starter has been a royal pain in my neck to be rid of. At first the player was blocking the transfer until I went the morale breakdown approach and finally he accepted transfer offers... I was so relieved that I shouted "YES! FINALLY!" only to get a message in my inbox that the board had blocked the transfer. That moment is stuck in my head from when I stared at the inbox in disbelief. Between loans, scouting prospects, and transfer scrounging I had found three good GKs, all of whom I pay p/a far less than I pay him despite all of them being better current playing ability stars than him. You would think a board would realize that 4 first squad GKs is one or two too many and let me part with the worst one... But instead they have now blocked me three times. So now I have an angry depressed player who does not even want to be part of my team anymore (and slowly fouling the locker room atmosphere), I have potential teams willing to accept him but blocked from taking him... and my own board does not seem to care that (because of their refusal to accept his transfer) I have 4 GK and he is the worst one yet has by far the highest contract. He is 31 and has worse current (not even talking potential here) stats than my 18 year old wonderkid. I am not sure if the board loves the guy because he used to be great for them, or if he is one of the board member's secret love child, or if a board member has a man crush on the guy, or what. All I know is that now I have a large p/a (plus absurd bonuses) contract hanging around my neck for a player that I not only do not want (that is an absurd contract to have with someone that over the hill...), but I also do not even have a place for him after my pickups with the other three players. Is this salvageable somehow? Or do I have to just find a different team to save on?
@@ZealandonYT Thank you, Zea, especially for that quick turnaround on the response. As for the answer given, I had half suspected that would be the answer, but I appreciate the confirmation! Sadly it is the English leagues so you already are aware how that is going to be a hassle. But that's my own problem for having the audacity to use this team despite knowing just how awful the system is. xD
@@ZealandonYT Sadly the board kept refusing and refuse any attempt to change their mind. Also it's the English leagues so players are vastly paid more than they are worth (as you are already aware). I have tried every trick you suggested for selling the hard to sell players. All of the teams that the player wants to join won't pay enough to satisfy the board, and the teams that offered more get refused by the player. I gave up on him and ended up just putting him out on loan for the highest percentage pay I could get. Not exactly happy with that, but I made the best of a bad situation. Maybe if I am lucky he will accept a better offer after spends time in another club.
Zeeland what size database you running and have you got every league running I.e all leagues playable to get every player and staff in the game accessible? And if so what you got in your rig an i9 ?
I cant sell golden boy from German club that plays in ucl. His wage is way more lower than in any other top club. Nobody wants wonderkind and he wants to leave. That's weird
when im in this situation, i lower the players squad status a level or two (other teams see i wont fight over his price cos he aint important to me) & move them to the reserves, if they have want a convo with me about unhappiness- i tell them they're leaving. both of these combined usually make players agitate for any move.
I found out that more clubs are interested in buying the players you're offering out on transfer deadline day, I guess it's because they lost a player on deadline day. It's risky but waiting for deadline day can save you a couple of million dollars (or pesos).
Ah i miss the good ol' days when I could put asking price to 0, get 50 teams interested, change price to whatever reasonable I wanted to get for him and all those 50 teams would make their own offer. Literally swap whole team out in single transfer window and be able to make such cool moves like sell ten players to buy unknown kid from middle of nowhere cos he has 19 finishing
Is there something to be said here about how you structure players' contracts in the first place? Like, if you agree a contract with a relatively low wage but offset that with higher appearance fees and other bonuses (esp. loyalty), I think it makes it easier to offload them (either on loan or sale) when the time comes. Also, using the 'optional extension' clauses, so that if a player ages or doesn't improve as you expect, you can simply not use the club's option to extend and hey-presto, their contract ends. Has anyone else used these approaches?
As Barnsley it is frustrating because your high valuation players earn too much so noone can afford their wages then the players you do get offers for have crazy low valuations. So I can't sell a player I get £10m offers for but I get offers of 250k for my other players.
I have just used one way to sell player who i could not sell manually. He was valued at 49 million. Although I tried to offer him to other clubs even at the price of 15 million, no clubs made an offer. However at last I sold him for 60 million after a week :)))
Great video! Now I just need someone to tell me why I can sweep my CL group stage( comprised of Shakhtar,Leipzig and Barcelona), and have defeated Inter in the first leg , but I can't beat Norwich,Newcastle or Sheffield .
I play in A-League and other clubs in the league can't pay a transfer fee so can only sell to overseas, but wages are too inflated for overseas clubs to come in unless I'm selling a star player. any advice?
Try to have some middle eastern leagues loaded up if you can - This is the only place I’ve really had success ‘off-loading’ Australian players. Part of the reason I enjoy the A-league is you really have very little margin of error in squad spots.
@@blinkusfishus2052 That's definitely something I'll try next A-League save I try. Will probably wait until FM23 though with the changes to Australian football coming up soon
I still playing fm 21 and it annoys me that i play with juventus and wanted to sell ronaldo, but when the offer comes, he disagree with those clubs about the contract
Correct me if I'm wrong but 100% salary percentage determines that YOUR club is totally paying the wage. At 0% it should be paid by the other team I think.
I was playing as New York Red Bulls at FM13 or FM 10 🤔, my regen striker signed for Ajax when Eredivise was not playable, Thomson was dream of a player and board overruled me and sold him despite we wining Club World Cup final against Ac Milan. And my regen captain named Haris signed for Fulham later on moved to Real Madrid as I loaded other leagues next season and moved to Torino.
I told you this in fm20 .. it's still true in fm21 .. So what "it" is .. you loan the player to a club who has the money ( the easiest way to find that out are the finance part[Secure is not good enough most of the times] and their previous league positions ) and make sure that the player is at least a 'squad player' for them .. in his last month of being on loan .. put his asking price at 4x what he's valued now ( if they're not offering you what you've asked .. slowly come down to 1.5 of what his value is or whatever you had in mind .. and if that's not working .. and there's still 2 or more years on his contract .. you can loan him out another year and try this at the end of his loan again) if he's been a help to that team and they got the money .. they'll buy him I did this with my Chelsea save ( very easy with Chelsea in fm20) With Cambridge United ( fm20 .. it was harder .. cuz rarely that team had the money to buy the player but when we got to Championship and then PL it got easier ) and I've done it in fm21 with En Avant Guingamp in Ligue 1
Trying to offload Sanchez from man United’s squad was a pain. Even though at first he was on loan. I just could stand seeing his name in my squad list😂😂😂😂
"I beat his morale down enough that he would join...Portsmouth."
As a Portsmouth season ticket holder...that hurt XD
As a Sunderland fan I agree with Z
COME ON SHOUTHAMPTON
As a Saints fan, I thought his treatment of the player a bit harsh. Just send him to Eastleigh on a free.
@@RacingAtHomecc
Finally I can get rid of my twelve excess midfielders after I got super high and bought a bunch of “future wonderkids” that absolutely flopped. 😭
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Ah yes "Piece of candy" syndrome as I like to call it. Signing too many wonderkids because you can. Then not having enough playing time/ training attention/ good loan options for them to all develop. I always try my best to limit myself per position to an amount, depending on my club's situation.
FM and any weed product is both a great and dangerous combo.
Why more football managers don't smoke weed.. i present to you exhibit A
@@Hyde_Hill It is happening on real life as well
There is one other thing that works 90% of the time with players that are willing to go but have no one interested in them. After you offer them out and no one bids, there is an option in the lower right corner to "persuade the player to find a new club". Usually, they'll come after a couple of weeks with some random club they are willing to go to that makes an offer.
Where is this option dude? I cant find it. is there also on fm 2020?
@@anastasiostsaousidis5719yes
This is the video I needed more than any other. The amount of dead weight in my squad is killing me
Arsenal fan?
@@jjdriessen nah spurs
@Harry Brewer it's called both no need to have a panic attack over it
@@tjwood7120 Bro you killed him. 💀💀💀
@George this may help you: when you want to get a guy of your payroll but no one wants to sign him there is a (loophole?). 1. Set the guy on the transferlist. 2. look for a youth player of a bigger team that your player would want to get transferred to (sometimes they don´t want the transfer so you have to test teams). 3. add the player you want to loose in the negotiation (it´s one of the options in the screen when you negotiate the price named (add player of Transferlist/loan list). For me i got a lot of deadwood over 30 from 3. tier team Kaiserslautern in Germany send that way into the higher Leagues and off my payroll. p.s. i did it with the crappiest youth player they got so i didn´t have to pay them a lot of money to loose my wage burdens.
Zealand is a prophet of the FM gods.
Holy hell. A Football Manager content creator who actually has some charisma! I never thought I'd see the day. Instant subscribe right there.
All I learned from this is that I need a better computer to sell a player on football manager
Wait, so not everyone plays fm in an old laptop?
Same 🥺
I miss this type of educational videos with all the entertainment D:
So much changed in FM that new videos about the same topics would we so awesome to have! Love you Z
The unwanted list function is actually really good if you haven't used it. You need to mess with DOF responsibilities and attributes to get it right but when you have a DOF with good negotiation you can essentially click 5 players into the list, set your terms and then wait for the final click to come in your newsfeed. I do this at the start of new saves and when the new season kicks in, it seems to annoy players less than being transfer listed and offered out manually.
this upset the players less? wow, I didn't imagined
@@erickbarbosa2935 I imagine it they hate the DoF instead
How about selling owners who tried to sell your club? Asking for a friend.
Snack lite fun Fingers
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#kroenkeout
I am a lot more brutal when selling players. I tend to drop them to youth teams and tell them they aren’t wanted, then I offer them out for more money and when nobody bids I ask them to look for clubs. Then I offer them out for free to get teams interested and then reject offers and offer them to individual clubs. Works wonders as a big team and can sell most players in first few weeks.
Eg started at Hamburg had Sven Ulreich valued at 3 million and had just signed and didn’t want to leave, did this and got 9 million from Ajax for him.
The 'Fine two weeks wages - no reason' used to be the best way to get rid of players in old FM's. I'm so gutted they took it out.
Let me be the first to say that the offer out option to target specific clubs is a godsend. I played my way up from Brazilian Serie C to Serie A and as I’m in Brazil I have a lot of Brazilian wonderkids that are just coming up through the ranks (now that I’m as big as flamengo). When they start to get agitated because Man United and Liverpool start looking at the player I can offer my player directly to man united Liverpool workout labeling him as surplus and sell him without hurting the dynamics of my club.
just for fun, what's the team?
@@erickbarbosa2935 esporte club Juventude who start the ‘18/19 season in Serie c (I still just have fm20) but irl they got promoted to Serie a!
Eae mano beleza, vc tem o brasileirao atualizado ou vc joga com o normal do jogo? po eu tento deixar atualizado o máximo possível mas nunca acho kits por exemplo ai o jogo fica foda com o palmeiras usando vermelho dentro de campo kkkkkk
Yea it actually worked for me a couple times. I had 2 dudes that were "wanted" but whenever i would just offer to clubs in general, nobody would bite. I targeted the clubs that allegedly wanted them, and they both offered.
Also pretty good to just click on transfer and pick some "reasonable" amount when you only get a loan offer in instead of a transfer offer, doesn't always work and they reject pretty often but from time to time it works.
I can't describe how much I love this man. Beast!
Bro, you forgot about offering them a mutual contract termination. Sometimes they will accept it for no fee, and then you've got them off your books. Either that or you anger them and then they're more apt to want to leave.
Why should you do that when you can get 2 million for the guy ?
@@roterodamum2575 cause a lot of players in lower leagues just have awful wages and have a price tag around 100k/200k
Hey Zealand, great stuff as always. However, you have missed one key point. If you are managing a club with good finances and don't want to keep a certain player, you can offer some of his wages out while transfer listing him. I have several instances where some greedy players wants contract after 6 good matches in an entire season, I make them angrier by not giving them contracts and immediately kicking them out by offering out some wages. But this case is only applicable if you're managing clubs with deep pockets. Teams tend to offer good amount of money if you lock some salary of the selling player. Also, the contribution lasts till the player's contract, so a win win if you calculate your net earning from the transfer.
Example: Kolo toure had high wages and I didn't wanted in my club, offered him out without contract contribution, none of the club's were interested because of his fat paycheck. Then I offered him out with a min of 7k per week (lowest option) and kept it at yellow so that the club's won't increase that by much and 2-3 club's took the bait and paid me 5 mil. So 5 mil - 350k is my net profit (1 year contract with 7 k per week)
Great tips, Z. The trick that worked great for me was actually putting unwanted players on the game squad, on the last sub#6 or sub#7, and put them in already-won last 15min of the games. I don't care if they only come up to 6.0 on their game score, the main goal here is keeping them running with the squad to keep their interest from other clubs high and getting much faster and higher offers for them
Josh Harrop haven't heard that name in a few years scored a screamer on his debut and dipped
a little trick for people who want a big database is to create one with the leagues you want and then after its created and you can pick a team save that as an extra game. so you can always use a big database without having to create it each time and sitting there for hours everytime.
i don’t even play FM nor do i watch it, just one day you randomly appeared on my recommended and you could say i’m entertained, very.
The top Greek teams are of the extremes. They'll develop their young players (Greek or foreign) while they'll also sign four or five ageing players on free transfers. Usually, the transfers between clubs are free transfers and, in some cases, the buying team pays a hefty amount in compensation to help the selling club after losing a player. The fact that most transfers are free allows them to have more wage budget available to them, hence the higher wages that might appear.
And then there's Bale. I don't think even Zealand could offload Bale without paying him out of his remaining contract.
Real Madrid watching this video furiously.
same here. that guy is killing my chances of paying two or even three salaries in roles that i need.
And De Gea
Perfect timing, got this exact problem now
Oh yes, the Greek Super League. The place where the 3 big teams overpay 35 year olds and everyone else is fighting to stay afloat.
I once tried to sell players that werent playing out and they were like "Coach I love it here"
Anyway I signed them again
Nice video. (apart from the unwanted list option that was mentioned in other commentaries already,) you forgot the trade option: look for a decent club he might wanne join, or that might be able to pay the wages... and which got a player that is kinda interesting for yourself, then try a trade. you will have to add some money, most likely, but its still a valuable option if you really want to get rid of someone who isn't willing to leave or who you can't sell because of high wages.
"Anyhow"
So HITC Sevens collab confirmed? XDDDDDDDDDDDDD
I’d be lying if I said I didn’t think the same thing when he said that lmao
Without freddy adu
A few notes on the target club feature.
1) It really needs the option of Target All Interested Clubs
2) I find this feature useful when offering players for loan. There's an option to target all clubs from x nation. I find this great when I've bought a foreign youngster not ready for the 1st team who doesn't speak the language. Let him go to his home country, train/play in a familiar environment and have him on a language course at the same time.
Ha the anger tactics - anyone remember in early champs/FM's when you would fine the player a weeks wages as often as you could just because so they would get so p****d off they'd leave. I remember I think it was Ray Wallace from Leeds on FM93 just would not leave and after months he finally would and you'd have the reaction that Zealand had at the start of this video!
Very helpful tip of how to off-load players in your club for the better of the team.
i Asked this on stream, really happy you made a vid about it, explained it alot
If you really want a challenge try selling Pastore (AS Roma) before his contract expires. Used most of these options and have been unsuccessful in 3 different saves
Imagine if nuss watched this his reaction would be gold
One key to angering players is also setting their squad status to 'surplus to requirements'
The way I’ve been save scumming trying to sell Kepa in my 2nd season w Chelsea.. is sickening😭😭 this video came at the perfect time for me
I've come back to this video so many times, it's insane. I especially liked how you pointed out how overpaid English players are. I tend to stockpile young talent and it's always funny to me when some 16 year old who plays for Man City's youth academy's C team demands 100k a year. FOH!
Fantastic... I'm currently having these issues! Thanks again!
Small tip you can see at 13:59 you can hit that persuade to join button if not interested in joining. Can help from time to time.
He did that like 5 times... :)
@@thargoff Afterwards though. Not beforehand the way he described it. Or did I misinterpret what he said?
I always use the "future matches play" thingy, it let me get more money than their original offer most of the time but I usually pay 1/2 of the players wages when loan him out because the club that want to buy him can't afford and I make sure to have him as important player/ regular starter when loaning them out.
I used to be a Perth Glory season ticket holder back when I lived there
How long ago, another former season ticket holder here
@@Oliviben NSL days. I live in Canberra now
When selling Ive found setting selling team wage contribution to £1 per week as its the lowest it can go and it keeps the offers higher and teams interested. idk if it actually works or that it just looks like it does but it might be worth testing
Playing FM just for a couple of days and Matt Butcher helped me with FC Magdeburg to go up to Bundesliga! I love him, not gonna sell! :)
If they kick up a fuss and are unhappy and effecting morale, move them to your reserves which removes them and their negative influence on the first team.
I noticed this when I threw Martinelli to reserves cuz he was unhappy I offered him out…he came back better when I brought him to the squad I even had to give him a new contract
ahhh....I hate when my dreadlocks get stuck in the paper shredder
Had Zealand made a video on how to balance wages and what to do if you go over on wage limit?
"Playing on a smart toaster" 😄
Countries that over pay players: Mexico.
For real, my club's second highest earner plays with the under 20 team.
Forced Marc Roca out the door from Newcastle to Zenit... needed him gone for registration slots and because he'd fallen down the order. Sold for around 20m at a 6m loss, the guy is now my "rival" in the dynamics page!
WHAAAAAAT, WHAAAT THE HECK, 7.10 on time, I play fm for like 10 years but until now I didnt know there was a thing called Targets where you can choose exact club to offer player to !!!!! THANK YOU ZEALAND !
Love your videos Zealand
I spend the first 3 years of nearly ever save just tying to get rid of all of the oldies, youth team fillers, and the players who will never get a game for me. The board usually gets really upset at me for letting a lot of them go for super cheap. But if I can use the wages from 3 players who will never play on a player who will actually make a difference, so be it.
*player on last year of his contract, unlikely to be sold*
*player is on £500 per week*
*team comes in with loan offer, willing to pay 100% of wages*
*I reduce the % to zero, raise the used/unused fee to 3 times the player’s wage*
*profit*
Myself and Alexandre lacazette have a special but complicated relationship. In real life I don’t mind him, he can be quite good. On fm he has had 1 consistent season for me since fm19, constantly drops below a 6.6 rating no matter the opponent and no sod wants to buy him
The 1 good season was a 424 attacking as a dlf alongside aubameyang so it was mainly assists
Unfortunately A-League teams are very restricted by a salary cap. Which is currently 2.43m person with a minimum spend of 1.7m there are several exemptions to this Marquee players and the like but they need approval of the governing body. The average wage is currently somewhere between 45k and 62.5k per year.
My team 32 years old captain that has declining performance and breakdown suddenly decided to quit and retire and saved me from all the trouble in the world…
When sending players you want to sell out on loan, you should look at Future Fee after Matches played (5 games). So underrated/underused.
12:32 Zealand: “The best Greek teams overpay their players”
Melissanidis (AEK Athens owner) and Alafouzos (Panathinaikos owner): 😂😂😂
@@thepurefan9240 Actually in FM I have seen AEK also paying a lot after moving to their new ground and Panathinaikos after been sold to a new owner. In contrast PAOK reduces its budget and sometime their owner leaves the club.
@@thepurefan9240 I was talking about FM but if you want to talk about the real world... The truth is that Olympiacos has the best team by far as we speak... None of the rest are comparable to them... PAOK and AEK are almost at the same level right now and then comes Panathinaikos and Aris who has been quite improved last year. Historically speaking there are three major teams in Greece and those are Olympiacos Panathinaikos and AEK.
This video might save my Burnley career, no one will make offers for my players even though we got champions league last year
I really love your videos bro. RIP Hennes VIII the only true Goat in football btw.
I am very happy to see my native flag of Iceland visible behind you. Subscription guaranteed!
i only loaded english league's database on my first playthrough because i didnt know it was important to load others :( i dont wana start again is there a way to load more databases once u started a save?
The trick to getting team leaders off the team is reducing their playing time slowly over while having someone better playing in their position, basically their replacement should be getting 2-3 times more gametime, but dont reduce the playing time drastically, if he played every game in a 2 game week, make that 1 game a week and the next month 1 game every other week and maintain that or you could go down to once a month but the may not be too pleased
There was a time where I had like 120 players on the club and 60 of them I loaned out to lower the wages and make some money of them because on one hand, i believed that they would be better to play for me or sell them for a higher price, but in the same time, I knew they were never going to play. So I decided to sell some but for a lot, didn't get offers. End of story, I decided to lower the amount of players to like, 100, and ended up increasing it to 135 because I sign a lot of under 21 players
how far into debt did you go ?
@@sparkz2337 always making money. Low wages and loan fees (arround 20M per year). Have in mind that I took that team from the portuguese third to first division, so the 100 players issue came arround 4th season, because I bought young players but those who I tried to sell had a value of like 10k. The biggest problem was competing with the big 3 who completly outspended me. But european football, first Europa then Champions did the trick. Never had debt. Had arround 60M in the bank arround 7th/8th season and the board took 20M debt to build a new stadium. Other then that, no debt
@@pedrofrancisco2291 wow, im from portugal too lol, what team was this ? cuz rn im managing beira-mar and im at the second tier and there were probably better options
I watch Doctor Benjy on 1.75x speed but I cannot believe that I can watch you on 2x speed and still understand everything.
Lol thanks for this. 1.5x is perfect speed for me.
Your brain moves much faster than mine
I've had some success (by now means universal, though) on occasion offering players out specifically to a club who is showing 'major interest' in him. Can be particularly effective if there are a couple of clubs showing interest who aren't in terrible financial positions; you can potentially get a bidding war started that way.
What if you have a "very close" relationship with the player in question and you want to sell him but don't want to hurt his feelings/damage the relationship?
It is challenging to play Man Utd and tried to rebuild the team and salary structure.
I mean selling those high-wage earners/I don't like/not suitable for my tactics...... Pogba, Lingard, Andreas, Phil Jones, Matic, Fred, Telles, Martial, Lindelof, Bailly, DDG, Chong....etc.
And I need this video very much.
How do you live with a half a star performance. I dont think I have enough coffee to tide my patience for that.
Really isn't that bad tbh. Looks worse than it is
@@R1chking im talking about the pc performance if you load multiple leagues. I have a 2600 and its still to slow for me.
@@mugenjean7944 Well yeah it just depends how long you consider 'slow' is. Use a decently old laptop with multiple leagues and it takes some time going between days but is definitely bearable. Guess if you consider more than 10s slow then fair enough.
Great video, thank you!
u can try to offer a player out with unspecified amount and select installments totaling your selling price. teams will counter with cash offers up to that value
when you want to get a guy of your payroll but no one wants to sign him there is a (loophole?). 1. Set the guy on the transferlist. 2. look for a youth player of a bigger team that your player would want to get transferred to (sometimes they don´t want the transfer so you have to test teams). 3. add the player you want to loose in the negotiation (it´s one of the options in the screen when you negotiate the price named (add player of Transferlist/loan list). For me i got a lot of deadwood over 30 from 3. tier team Kaiserslautern in Germany send that way into the higher Leagues and off my payroll. p.s. i did it with the crappiest youth player they got so i didn´t have to pay them a lot of money to loose my wage burdens.
You've essentially swapped your crappy aging deadwood for crappy youthful deadwood.
@@beasaboy14 but the crappy youthfull deadwood gets thousands to replace crappy old deadwood that gets millions so it's a pretty good deal all things considered
Barcelona need to give this a watch at the moment
The worst experience i had selling player was with guendouzi. He refused to leave. He has a 4 year contract at the start and it took me 3 years to get rid of him. He would only go on loan which i manage to get on deadline day so his value dosnt drop to low. But finally after 3 years of being on loan for championship teams he finally left. This was my first time of being held as an hostage by a player
Got a vice captain that actually isn’t that highly regarded in the dressing room and is a 3 star on my team about to hit 30. Planning to get rid of him this summer but I’m scared about how that’s gonna go
Had the Nuss issue with Cheryshev on my Valencia save. 2 Turkish teams willing to pay £9 mil over the year but he refused to leave. He then demanded to go to CSKA on loan and I'm still paying 70% of his wage 🤦🏼♂️
Zealand I have one question that you either didn't cover in this piece on selling players or I somehow missed your discussion regarding it... I apologize if it is the latter of those.
What do you do when you get transfer offers, the player is willing to accept (after a morale breakdown), but your POS board refuses to let the player leave because they "feel he is too valuable for the team" despite his contract and poor stats making him an anchor around your neck? If it matters, my save is in the English leagues... and by saying that and "board problems" you probably already have a good guess which team I am on for the save.
I started a save with a team that had 2 first squad GK by default before I started the save. Both were what I call "has been former greats", but one at least accepted that he was over the hill and that he was a backup at best. Even worse, both had expensive and terribly designed contracts. The backup Gk was relatively easy to transfer, but the starter has been a royal pain in my neck to be rid of. At first the player was blocking the transfer until I went the morale breakdown approach and finally he accepted transfer offers... I was so relieved that I shouted "YES! FINALLY!" only to get a message in my inbox that the board had blocked the transfer. That moment is stuck in my head from when I stared at the inbox in disbelief.
Between loans, scouting prospects, and transfer scrounging I had found three good GKs, all of whom I pay p/a far less than I pay him despite all of them being better current playing ability stars than him. You would think a board would realize that 4 first squad GKs is one or two too many and let me part with the worst one... But instead they have now blocked me three times.
So now I have an angry depressed player who does not even want to be part of my team anymore (and slowly fouling the locker room atmosphere), I have potential teams willing to accept him but blocked from taking him... and my own board does not seem to care that (because of their refusal to accept his transfer) I have 4 GK and he is the worst one yet has by far the highest contract. He is 31 and has worse current (not even talking potential here) stats than my 18 year old wonderkid.
I am not sure if the board loves the guy because he used to be great for them, or if he is one of the board member's secret love child, or if a board member has a man crush on the guy, or what. All I know is that now I have a large p/a (plus absurd bonuses) contract hanging around my neck for a player that I not only do not want (that is an absurd contract to have with someone that over the hill...), but I also do not even have a place for him after my pickups with the other three players.
Is this salvageable somehow? Or do I have to just find a different team to save on?
Only thing left to do is contest the boards decision through the discussion panel or get more money for the player so they take it
@@ZealandonYT Thank you, Zea, especially for that quick turnaround on the response. As for the answer given, I had half suspected that would be the answer, but I appreciate the confirmation!
Sadly it is the English leagues so you already are aware how that is going to be a hassle. But that's my own problem for having the audacity to use this team despite knowing just how awful the system is. xD
@@ZealandonYT Sadly the board kept refusing and refuse any attempt to change their mind. Also it's the English leagues so players are vastly paid more than they are worth (as you are already aware).
I have tried every trick you suggested for selling the hard to sell players. All of the teams that the player wants to join won't pay enough to satisfy the board, and the teams that offered more get refused by the player.
I gave up on him and ended up just putting him out on loan for the highest percentage pay I could get. Not exactly happy with that, but I made the best of a bad situation. Maybe if I am lucky he will accept a better offer after spends time in another club.
Leave me and my smart toaster alone
Zeeland what size database you running and have you got every league running I.e all leagues playable to get every player and staff in the game accessible? And if so what you got in your rig an i9 ?
I cant sell golden boy from German club that plays in ucl. His wage is way more lower than in any other top club. Nobody wants wonderkind and he wants to leave. That's weird
when im in this situation, i lower the players squad status a level or two (other teams see i wont fight over his price cos he aint important to me) & move them to the reserves, if they have want a convo with me about unhappiness- i tell them they're leaving. both of these combined usually make players agitate for any move.
My favourite is when their agent demands compensation for loss of earnings, usually amounting to more than the fee received for them!
I found out that more clubs are interested in buying the players you're offering out on transfer deadline day, I guess it's because they lost a player on deadline day. It's risky but waiting for deadline day can save you a couple of million dollars (or pesos).
It's good to switch to private negotiations. You might get a better offer when not talk publicly
Ah i miss the good ol' days when I could put asking price to 0, get 50 teams interested, change price to whatever reasonable I wanted to get for him and all those 50 teams would make their own offer. Literally swap whole team out in single transfer window and be able to make such cool moves like sell ten players to buy unknown kid from middle of nowhere cos he has 19 finishing
Is there something to be said here about how you structure players' contracts in the first place? Like, if you agree a contract with a relatively low wage but offset that with higher appearance fees and other bonuses (esp. loyalty), I think it makes it easier to offload them (either on loan or sale) when the time comes. Also, using the 'optional extension' clauses, so that if a player ages or doesn't improve as you expect, you can simply not use the club's option to extend and hey-presto, their contract ends. Has anyone else used these approaches?
As Barnsley it is frustrating because your high valuation players earn too much so noone can afford their wages then the players you do get offers for have crazy low valuations. So I can't sell a player I get £10m offers for but I get offers of 250k for my other players.
I have just used one way to sell player who i could not sell manually. He was valued at 49 million. Although I tried to offer him to other clubs even at the price of 15 million, no clubs made an offer. However at last I sold him for 60 million after a week :)))
Great video!
Now I just need someone to tell me why I can sweep my CL group stage( comprised of Shakhtar,Leipzig and Barcelona), and have defeated Inter in the first leg , but I can't beat Norwich,Newcastle or Sheffield .
You dont know how to beat bad teams, ones that usually play a low block
I play in A-League and other clubs in the league can't pay a transfer fee so can only sell to overseas, but wages are too inflated for overseas clubs to come in unless I'm selling a star player. any advice?
Try to have some middle eastern leagues loaded up if you can - This is the only place I’ve really had success ‘off-loading’ Australian players. Part of the reason I enjoy the A-league is you really have very little margin of error in squad spots.
@@blinkusfishus2052 That's definitely something I'll try next A-League save I try. Will probably wait until FM23 though with the changes to Australian football coming up soon
I still playing fm 21 and it annoys me that i play with juventus and wanted to sell ronaldo, but when the offer comes, he disagree with those clubs about the contract
Correct me if I'm wrong but 100% salary percentage determines that YOUR club is totally paying the wage. At 0% it should be paid by the other team I think.
I was playing as New York Red Bulls at FM13 or FM 10 🤔, my regen striker signed for Ajax when Eredivise was not playable, Thomson was dream of a player and board overruled me and sold him despite we wining Club World Cup final against Ac Milan. And my regen captain named Haris signed for Fulham later on moved to Real Madrid as I loaded other leagues next season and moved to Torino.
I don't have for money fm21 but in fm20. If you want to sell a player and the board doesnt accept a prize that isnt ridiculously high what can you?
Great job Seth 👍
I panic in transfer window so many potential players too buy figuring out the right one for my team is hard
I told you this in fm20 .. it's still true in fm21 ..
So what "it" is .. you loan the player to a club who has the money ( the easiest way to find that out are the finance part[Secure is not good enough most of the times] and their previous league positions ) and make sure that the player is at least a 'squad player' for them .. in his last month of being on loan .. put his asking price at 4x what he's valued now ( if they're not offering you what you've asked .. slowly come down to 1.5 of what his value is or whatever you had in mind .. and if that's not working .. and there's still 2 or more years on his contract .. you can loan him out another year and try this at the end of his loan again)
if he's been a help to that team and they got the money .. they'll buy him
I did this with my Chelsea save ( very easy with Chelsea in fm20)
With Cambridge United ( fm20 .. it was harder .. cuz rarely that team had the money to buy the player but when we got to Championship and then PL it got easier ) and I've done it in fm21 with En Avant Guingamp in Ligue 1
I notice that if you bring in a better player in the position that the deadwood player is make it easy to sell him
Trying to offload Sanchez from man United’s squad was a pain. Even though at first he was on loan. I just could stand seeing his name in my squad list😂😂😂😂
I loaned him out to inter and he averaged a 6.3 rating, so glad he wasn’t playing for me especially since they were paying 500k a month for him
If u keep offering out highly influential players out, after you do it more than a few, the entire squad will become unhappy and take his side