The BIZARRE CONTROVERSY at Super Bowl IX
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Imagine the NFL having to apologize six hours after the Super Bowl is done for a statistical error that they made during the course of the game, which impacted the record books and impacted everything. Well, that's what happened at Super Bowl IX between the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Minnesota Vikings, when an already bad day running the football got even worse when one reporter realized that something felt a bit off
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The Steelers were one of the first teams to discover the advantage of steroids.
I'm waiting for Matthew Daley to say something about this, I figured he'd be all over it by now.
Imagine a Super Bowl being played on January 12... isn't that about when the regular season ends these days?
Back then NFL regular season was 14 games and less teams made playoffs🏈
Not quite. Or maybe I should say not yet.
not to mention there was no Wild Card round@@Jared40
At the time, Super Bowl IX (1975) was a feel good story because the Vikings had previously played in two super bowls but were 0-2 in super bowls and this was the Steelers Super Bowl debut, and the Steelers hadn't ever won a Super Bowl before.
Pretty redundant that last sentence dontcha think.
I think he meant they had not won an NFL Championship. (Referring to the pre-Super Bowl era.). So one of the teams was about to win their first title.
You got 20 likes for something not true.
Steelers have won 5 SBs.
@@n9wffyour reading comprehension is poor. They HADN’T won any at the time of Super Bowl 9. Emphasis on the haDN’T.
Also they’ve won more than 5 SBs… they’re at 6. So your “correction” is doubly wrong.
@@Maplefrostu
You are right.
My apologies
It's amazing how atrocious Minnesota was in their 4 Super Bowl appearances. They never lead any game at any point, even for a second. Rewatching the games, they never threated or felt like they could win any of them. They scored a grand total of 34 points in 4 games, with zero points coming in the first half, and 20 total points in the first 3 quarters of the games. They scored a grand total of 5 TDs, one of which was on a blocked punt, and the final one came in the final seconds of the blowout loss to Oakland. Remarkably terrible by a team that featured so many hall of famers and had dominated the regular season NFC playoffs for so long.
Seems bud Grant couldn't keep the guys motivated the extra week added before superbowl.
The Vikings won 4 NFC Championship Games by an average of 13 points a game, and then turned around and lost 4 Super Bowls by an average of 15 points a game. They would steamroll the NFC and then not show up on Super Bowl Sunday
The worst part is, Bud Grant kept doubling down and doing the same thing over and over in the SB without changing, and his team kept taking worse beatings every time.
If I go of secret base Vikings series, then Bud Grant downright hated the Superbowl for not being a real game of football, but a media circus even back then. Maybe he just didn't care enough about winning it.@@DolFan316
Apparently Bud Grant didn't make adjustments at the half ????? When a team loads the box, throw the ball behind them. Play action pass, screens etc might loosen up the front line too. The Vikings were the better team on paper, but were out coached.
I saw a documentary on SB IV when they lost to Kansas City and the Minnesota players flat out said they made no halftime adjustments in that game.
I remember Mike Wagner of Pittsburgh saying it best. It was strength
against strength! He was correct of course when it is well known that
a great defense can stop a great offense, which the Steelers did!
If you can't run the football, you pass the football. And if you can't do
either one, you will lose that football game. That defense was loaded
for Bear, and if someone got injured, they had the depth to replace the
injured party. Yeah, I agree the Vikings didn't make adjustments, but the
Steelers simply had the answer in the coaching department. Pittsburgh's
game plan was working so well, there was not much a coach could do but
watch the inevitable. Taking nothing away from the great Viking defense,
but Pittsburgh ran the football effectively, keeping the Viking defense on
the field more. And the Vikings knew full well that the Steelers were running
the football. That was how they put the points on the board.
Shoes and championships-one day you need to do a piece on the 1934 NFL championship and on how a Giants clubhouse attendant got the sneakers the G-Men used in the 2nd half and outscored the Bears 27-3 to win the game 30-13 (known in NFL lore as the "Sneakers Game"). There is even a Sneakers Game II that happened in 1956-in that instance the Giants had the shoes from the outset of the game and crushed the Bears 47-7.
I checked, it was 17 yards on 21 carries, 2ft 5in per carry. The football is 11" long, so less than 3 football lengths per carry. It was less than 10 hockey pucks, and about the same as 10 baseballs. You could measure the Vikings running stats in baseballs per carry,.
The Steelers changed their cleats at halftime. I wonder if the Vikings even had muddy field cleats with them.
NFL nexus with gambling merits scrutiny. 1962 2 HOF's docked a whole yr; 10 yr later betting handycapper co-hosts the pregame (Greek to me) lends itself to refs complicity by bad calls
And it was an Open Secret that Jimmy 'The Greek' Snyder was a gambler; but kept his position because he was friends with Pete Rozelle.
Of course, Jimmy later lost his job .... but that's a story for another time.
The Vikings' best offensive play was a 42 yard DPI against Pittsburgh. And then Foreman fumbled away that scoring chance... only to have it become six Viking points when Pittsburgh went three-and-out and then had a punt blocked and recovered in the end zone by Minnesota.
I think if they had played another ten quarters the Vikings' offense would still have been shut out.
If I remember, Tarkenton threw a pass which was blocked back into Tarkenton's hands. He threw it again downfield for a big gain, which was called back because it had been a completed pass from Tarkenton to Tarkenton.
@@briankoller2750 You are correct. After he caught his own pass, he chucked it deep to John Gilliam.
@@briankoller2750 Lamar did the same thing on Sunday, for 13 yard's. It was an attempt, and a completion, Jackson to Jackson.
Fred Cox then missed the PAT. As bad as the Vikings played, they were in that game until under 4 minutes to play.
@@mt3311 The Vikings won their next ten games (1975 season) and lost game 11 by one point because Cox missed the PAT
My mom has been a Rams fan since she was a kid. She has a particular hatred of the Vikings because (as she puts it) they would beat her Rams in the NFC Championship, then go on to completely crap the bed in the Super Bowl.
Apparently, this was one of those Super Bowls.
Vikings won their division handily from '69 to '77 because the Bears, Lions, and Packers were weak. This gave them home field advantage in the playoffs. Rams were the better team but couldn't play well in the Minnesota cold (this info was given to me by a former player for the Vikings)
@@davidpallas8559Sorry, but you need to check that Vikings player for CTE.
Home field for the playoffs was on a rotation basis through 1974. First year the NFL used seeds and gave a home field to the team with the best record was 1975.
6 of those years would not all have been a home game for Minnesota.
Dr. Z is a hero of mine because he was almost the only expert to pick the Giants to beat the Pats in 2007.
LOL. I made a comment to someone on a completely unrelated non-sports video about how I know a sports RUclipsr who can make a 15 minute video about a stat correction from 50 years ago. The other commenter I was talking to knew exactly who I was talking about. I willed this video into existence.
EDIT: I found the comment! It was from Todd In The Shadows' video on Nickelback back in November. I was talking about the glitch in Patreon benefits of early access for evergreen content. Here's the comment:
@TimmyTickle Yes. That's the one. That dude can stretch out a video about a postgame stat correction into a 20 minute video.
Great "Landslide" joke 😂😂😂
Super Bowl IX was the second straight year the Vikings made the Super Bowl, and their trip in six years. They lost to the Chiefs in Super Bowl IV 23-7 when they were heavily favoured (famous play from that was the 65 toss power trap play call by coach Hank Stram).
They lost the Miami Dolphins in Super Bowl VIII 24-7, after they came off their undefeated season. Running Back Larry Csonka had 145 yards rushing and two touchdowns.
They would lose this Super Bowl to the Pittsburgh Steelers, 16-6. The Vikings had forced a couple of turnovers in the game (a fumble recovery and an interception), but were called back to being offside, and defensive holding.
They would get back to the Super Bowl two years later for Super Bowl XI against the Oakland Raiders, and got pounded 32-14 (the most memorable moments from that Super Bowl, was Oakland’s Jack Tatum’s hit on Sammy White, where White got his helmet blown off by the hit. And Willie Brown’s 75-yard pick six). The Vikings haven’t made it to the Super Bowl since
It constantly blows my mind that the Vikings could win so much with a team that was so small and slow on D and so soft along both lines, and yet those glaringly obvious flaws somehow never got exposed until the Super Bowl most of the time between 1969-76.
You know it's bad when the NFL has to apologize and admit error.
Don't you all find the hypocrisy great where players can't gamble; but the NFL does Sportsbook partnerships?
I can’t even imagine today what would happen if something like this occurred and messed with the prop bets that NFL sponsored sports books offer
@@OfficialJaguarGator9 Probably a Justice Department investigation as a suspected cyber attack.
NFL, MLB and, I assume, the other sports leagues
@@OfficialJaguarGator9 I can. In typical 2020s fashion there would be a "sorry, not sorry" apology issued and then the NFL would double down and do it worse.
@@OfficialJaguarGator9 The Justice Department would suspect a cyber attack and launch an investigation.
Wow, did this video bring up a bad memory for me. Completely different circumstances but very much along the same lines as this presentation. I went to Vegas for the sole purpose of betting (many props) for the Ravens/Giants Super Bowl. Made about 5 or 6 smaller bets. But I made 3 huge bets that were my focus. Needed to hit 2/3 of my big boy bets to have a nice payday. My absolute lock was Ray Lewis getting over 6 tackles. Whole game I followed his every move. I didn't have his exact total, as maybe I missed some? Anyway, as the game wound down I was pretty sure that bet was toast. Next thing you know they name him MVP and bleeping CBS puts up the graphic that said he had 7 tackles. I couldn't believe it. Victory from the jaws of defeat. Or so I thought. When I went to cash my ticket, the guy told he didn't cover the total and CBS goofed. Talk about being po'd. A few years ago I researched that calamity again. It's still there, CBS with the graphic of 7 tackles, but the official stats credit him with 4. Today I can laugh about it. At the time, not so much. :)
The Vikings played in one more Super Bowl in 1977 but haven’t been back since-weird that the nr
Fun Fact - The 85 Bears set the record for least rushing yards but the Vikings in this game set the record for next total yards at 119. The next closest..the 85 bears allowed 123 yards to the patriots. So..if you add those 4 yards back in, we have a tie.
Go for the under on the passing yards for Mahomes.
I'm too young to remember Dr. Z from the New York Post, but I remember him from Sports Illustrated. I always loved his work.
The Vikings didn't do a good job throwing the football either. Fran Tarkenton completed only 11 out of 26 passes for 102 yards, threw three interceptions, and had four of his passes knocked down at the line of scrimmage.
They had to play at Tulane because the Superdome wasn't ready yet can you imagine commiting a super bowl to a city where the stadium isn't even built yet crazy
The previous Super Bowl was played at...Rice Stadium. As in, the home field of that noted football powerhouse the Rice Owls. At least the venues improved after that.
This game was even more of a snoozefest than Dolphins-Vikings the year before, yet the same people who say that one is the most boring Super Bowl ever never mention this one at all.
And yes, I've been resentful of it for decades.
Yeah those stats were slightly off because according to NFL films the Steelers gave up only 17 yds rushing which meant that Chuck Foreman rushed for 18 yards on 12 carries while Dave Osborn had 8 carries for -1. I watched the NFL films highlights of that game countless amount of times in my life so I know pretty much what the narrator said. On top of Tarkenton having 1 carry for 0. So yeah in the grand scheme of things unless you are talking about stats in a historical perspective they didn't matter because of SB XX however they did matter up until that point in time though.
Super Bowl IX was the Vikings SB that they had a chance to win. It was their only SB that their defense showed up to. Sure they gave up 158 yards to Franco Harris, but their defense kept them in the game until the middle of the 4th quarter.
Unfortunately the Vikings offense did nothing all game. Fran Tarkington played the game with a torn muscle in his throwing arm, and the Vikings best WR, John Gilliam, played the game with a broken wrist. Their offense wasn’t going to be able to move the ball at all if they couldn’t run the ball on the Steelers.
If your team is not dating Taylor Swift in Pfizer commercials and State farm commercials you have no chance of winning
Great video, but after last year, I'm really hoping you have some more stories about Super Bowl ads up your sleeve!
Did'nt the NFL also admit that Tarkenton was down near the goal line, and that wasn't a safety.
I’m actually doing a statistics and probability course so messing up data will be a nightmare for sure.
1st
I do believe, at 4:15, we see in the distance a certain dome in downtown New Orleans - the venue where the game should have been played.
Was going to be played there, but was not finished...
I remember watching a taped broadcast in 1998 and hearing I think Gowdy stating that. And I thought how interesting that it was 21 for 21 yds.
Ernie Holmes was a beast.
This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made videos about stat corrections featuring the Cardinals Freddie Joe Nunn in 1988 and the Titans Jevon Kearse in 1999.
The Vikings in the 75 season really should a win to the Super Bowl. It was that drew Pearson held Mary from Roger Starbuck. The Vikings really should have lost 2 in a row. They should have been in the super bowl seventy three seventy four seventy five and seventy six
Roger Starbuck *LMAO!!!* Seriously, you made my day with that.
Why isn’t Jim Marshall in the Hall of Fame?
Wrong Way Run is his legacy. For the record, I hate that, and I think he absolutely belongs in Canton, but that’s how a lot of voters probably feel
@@OfficialJaguarGator9 That and while he played for a really long time, none of his individual seasons were really that great. If any defensive player could be called a compiler it would be Marshall. Eller was clearly better and Page was FAR better.
Joe Greene of the Steelers was the healthiest he would be for any of the 4 Superbowls he would play in for Super Bowl 9, the AFC was the better Conference overall in the 1970’s, the Steelers that year were the best team in the league, I’m surprised that the Steelers didn’t score more than 16 points but the Vikings also had a pretty good Defense, if you like scoring Super Bowl 9 was not a fun game to watch
Nobody bet on stats back then. All that came in with the Internet. On the other hand keeping correct stats is important, especially to the players. Setting records has an importance when it comes to negotiating next year's contract. I myself In high school set a record for most receptions in a game(11). I had to take the game film to the coaches and point out to them every catch. They had me down for 8 catches. But all those stats they had wrong at the end of the season, they were being sent out to the college coaches that Inquired about our players and whether or not they might be offered a scholarship or simply a place to play as in division 3 or 2. Some of us might have wanted to keep playing. Fortunately I was offered a school to play for. Unfortunately, I couldn't stand their coaches😅
Nothing like watching highlights of my teams great performance in the running game , this was the closest SB game they ever had., down only 2-0at halftime , yet felt like it was to much for them to achieve
What happened to honest and clean football?
Wokeness took it away like every other good thing people used to enjoy. Hey, you did ask.
@@DolFan316 No it’s money. Money ruins everything fellow Dolphin fan. 🐬
My mother in law went to this game and I have the ticket stub, it cost 15 dollars for the ticket.
great story!
After this game the Steelers and Vikings had a live Tug of War contest [at the Pro Bowl?] with the Vikings winning. It took about 20 minutes and the Network had to break for a commercial while it was happening. Both teams were so tired half the players couldn't even move afterwards. They went by poundage so the Vikings had a extra player I read.
The Tug of War was the final event in "The SuperTeams," part of "The Superstars" series, which aired on ABC.
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I want a standalone Bud Bowl breakdown video.
@James_St._James I was thinking about the Bud Bowl and now that JG9 doing documentary I would loved to see it.
I also wanna see the In Livin Color Halftime cause that changed how the NFL do Halftime for the SuperBowl
I love your videos man I've been watching him for a long time. But this one video, you said it right. "In the grand scheme of things this meant nothing." Not what I was hoping for. Keep the vids coming though. I do enjoy them.
Steelers also 'bought' their Superbowl win in SB 40 against the seahawks
Like the ravens "bought" theirs
And the buccaneers
Yup so true Bill Leavy should've won super bowl 40 MVP.
Wasn't the NFL also forced to admit that the referees made questionable calls?
@@davidfromcolorado5295No!
Being a Vikings fan is awful, just awful.
Not exactly a "controversy."
You're a true treasure
Fun Fact: The score at halftime for this game was 2-0 Stealers.
*Steelers
@@MrConverse no, I spelled that right. Stealers.
That entire video meant nothing.
Love the stifling defense.
7:50 That CAN'T be real. (Looks it up.) Nope, not even close. OJG9, you silly jokester you!
Stat corrections happen all the time nowadays. The Super Bowl is a different animal altogether, however. But, its not unusual.
This is not a big deal.
Back when women were total beauties. 100% gorgeous in those days. We'll never have that ever again. 😢
As a child of the 80s and young adult in the 90s, women were even better looking then. Not that there wasn't the occasional hottie in the '70s but in those later decades there were way more AND they looked better and curvier.
Vikings are so jinxed, I have no idea what this team ever did to karma but wow their history is Shakespearean.
Knowing that the running game was going nowhere in the first half, they should have gone with the passing game in the second.
Should have went
....i meant to say
Doing the voice to text thing lol
This seems like a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it kind of story. It made no real difference.
I had thought this was going to cover the way the Vikings team was treated leading up to this Super Bowl by the NFL, it was far from stellar.
That was Super Bowl VIII, not Super Bowl IX. I did a video about that a while ago: ruclips.net/video/Iy9HHe5wLkw/видео.htmlsi=Y1rIOKSkjGqrcggB
Boselli Tier video!
What a waste of time!
I was a 9 year old kid at this game and had an intestinal issue and passed heavy gas throughout the game and the people around me got pissed but I didn’t care and kept passing gas
best steeler team of all time
None of this even matters. It's no big deal.
Was the discrepancy due to the backwards pass on the last play of the game?
So the Bears aren't the only team to have a sneakers game? Mind you it happened twice against the same team 15-20 years apart. Being born in the USA I like what you did with that Springsteen reference.
The coldest Super Bowl on record: Super Bowl 48 at MetLife Stadium
Incorrect. Coldest temp (At kickoff) was Super Bowl VI at Tulane stadium. 39 degrees F. SB 48 at MetLife stadium is 3rd coldest
No stadium can host in it's first season but funny how Stadiums in Dallas, SF and LA got Superbowls in their 2nd year and yet the Stadium in Vegas had to wait 4 years.
What's REALLY funny is Vegas hosting a Super Bowl at all and people actually being convinced the game is on the level and not rigged in the slightest.
Also- pretty sure Atlanta was Year 2 back when they hosted Dallas/Buffalo.
The Giants won this SB
How about more 49ers or Chiefs content.
How about not