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James Jones, 3 championships, 7 straight finals appearances, all in less than 10 minutes per game?Also, wanna know the real reason Kyrie is asking to be traded, he & LeBron know they can't win without James Jones
@@theblackmamba8686 in okc with pg13 Russ was the problem, in Houston Russ was the problem, in Washington he did good because they weren’t competing for a championship he could just go out there and be himself, then in La where he has hof teammates again and is competing for a championship guess what? Russ was the problem
@@Jose-st3fq How was Russ the problem in OKC? Didn’t PG & Carmelo lay an absolute goose egg in that Utah series? And wasn’t Russ playing through an injury in the playoffs in Houston? And again, you can’t pin that entire lakers year on Russ.
This video hits it home. I swear Russell Westbrook would probably give GSW a run for their money if he fixes his decision making & stat-padding behaviour.
Bruh 5 years and one mind-numbingly bad laker season later and just about everything in this video is spot on. In his prime westbrook's insane athleticism more or less compensated for his flaws but now that he's getting a bit older he just cant hold it together anymore.
the fact that people think your crazy for this is ridiculous , this is the most accurate video ive ever seen . people cant and wont admit it i respect you for being unbiased
well yeah,because he averages triple double,he had kd now he has kp and he got eliminated by a rookie's team!he is a hell of a player,gifted,talented but he is NO good leader.thats this video's point.he is an elite playmaker but he's not one of the greatests ever because he doesn't prooves it
4 years after this video came out, I guess we could really say that Westbrook is overrated, got traded everywhere and he never won even with the triple doubles. ,, coz really those stats doesn't matter if it doesn't raise overall team stats.
I'm trying to understand the logic of his teammates and coaching staff, who obviously agreed to spoon-feed him defensive rebounds so that he could pad his statistics. Why would you do that? It's not like he's lead them to the title, or will EVER lead them to the title. His teammates are helping to turn him into a HOF player while he does nothing... NOTHING... to win big games. Westbrook is an anchor on any team he joins because he doesn't care if his team wins an NBA Championship. He only cares about his stat line, and leading the team to victory is somebody else's problem.
You aint even gotta hear wat he saying just watch the video. Every play on defense he creeps away from his man to get closer to a rebound, the shit should be a crime. I aint gone say he overrated, but stop comparing him to curry.
Forget about the triple double because curry can't do that's it's unfair to compare it against curry . The real questions are what Is curry without a jumpshot he has no athleticism . That's fax . Also curry doesnt win the last 2 rings against cavs if kd wasn't there . To prove my point kd gets injured against the raptors who won the playoff series
They great thing about this season is that every thing you are said in this video is being proved right by how god-awful OKC has been playing. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Billy Donovan runs the exact same offense Scott Brooks ran when he coached OKC.
Don't you think there's more to Thunder's problems than Russell Westbrook considering offence is very similar / the same as the one they had when they had completely different set of players with completely different skill sets.
Russell Westbrook tf u laughing at boy? i’m an okc fan and you’re not the answer for okc if they ever wanted to make it past the first round. your late game decision makings, attitude against other teams/players and leadership role is terrible as hell. you just a stat hunter bro fr. you the reason why kd bounced. okc fucked up when they made you their franchise player 😂 now it’s been proven for 3 straight years
He actually turns it over more than the stats show because when you come down court and jack up a contested 3pt brick and the defense gets the rebound it's essentially the same as a turnover.
@@user-or8ys1ek8y Yeah. I'm not usually a guy who thinks all old era players are as good as current day. However, that is one sweet line to look at ain't it?
@@duantae basketball reference is free. but oscar did the same thing russ did by having his bigs box out for him and do all the work. i will admit he had a much better jumpshot than westbrook though.
@@manniesupasport7977 lol what would you have done? Russ hasn't gotten close to getting past the first round. And if you count getting carried by the rockets this year with a horrible efficiency performance then wowwwwwww lol
@@frazierfranchiz3 Westbrook and his so called efficiency problems doesn’t make an excuse for KD joining a super team that already won a chip & coming off a 73 win record setting season. KD could of went somewhere else and COMPETED for and won titles. Code word COMPETED. Not take the easy way out
TheDiamondFinn. lol. They gave Russ MVP because they felt sorry for him. OKC hasn't been a contender since Harden and KD. Even this year with both PG and Melo they SUCKED. First round elimination. Yeah, tell me again that Russ is good--he never has and never will win anything.
Qichar but he Like averages triple doubles on lottery teams. 8 wins on contenders while he has a trip dub and 26 on the fucking lakers Bulls and Grizzlies when he has one. Those triple doubles are overrated only to him. If Simmons or Lebron gets one its in the flow of the game most of the time. Rondo almost averaged a trip dub these playoffs with 8 points 8 rebounds and 12 assissts. Also he had more assissts alone than the whole okc combined.
Great video. Too bad so many people don't understand the game and are amazed into stupidity by athletic pgs with poor basketball iq when compared to some others, who's numbers aren't as amazing but overall help their team win.
Wyatt felling no u don't if it's so easy than how come every 1 isn't doing it I hate people like you bball isn't all about efficiency and stats it's about heart and Westbrook is full of it yea he's rash and makes bad decision s but that's what makes him fun to watch get of ya ass and play some actually bball and maybe you'll find out you can't calculate heart
I love his intensity, I love his work ethic, I love his athleticism. But I absolutely HATE Russell Westbrook's decision making on the court. Until he improves that he'll never win anything.
Manny King Money James Harden went to be the first option rather than the 6th man KD goes to the golden state fucking warriors. And Victor Oladipo goes and gets a higher usage rate as well as becoming the first option
In 2013/14 when KD won the MVP Westbrook played half the season and they won almost 59 games, lost to the Spurs in the WCF, next year kd played 30 games and they missed the playoffs.
Darth Darthius he ain’t better than Harden and he shouldn’t have won the MVP, Harden should have gone back to back MVP you know that! Westbrook ran out of excuse! They say he didn’t have help, they got him help with Paul George and Carmelo! Still he choked in the 1st round and almost got eliminated from the playoffs
BboyZoinks ok im not disagreeing or anything but don’t forget when he was with james harden, james harden was not the same player he turned into and same with melo vs prime melo
Russ is pure Athleticism. Father time will slowly take that away from him as he gets older and then he will need to rely more on fundamentals a la Kobe and Jordan. Then his game will really be exposed.
You saying a Offensively Inefficient Horrible Defensive Turnover Machine Overall Low Basketball I.Q On Both Sides Of The Ball Stat Padding Stat Hog Team Chemistry Killing Cancer Loser in Westbrook is Overrated? I don't believe you.
All of that and still managed to be an MVP, first-ballot hall of famer, Top 75, recognized as a top ten point guard ever, and made the NBA finals at 22 years old.
@@xdarkxskullzx yeah because Westbrick learn the Selfish Dark Art of Stat Padding. After KD left OKC the Thunders allowed Westbrook to do whatever he wanted to pad his stats and made sure the team was focused on not winning, but allowing Russ to pad his stats. This help Westbrook create the Selfish Dark Art of Stat Padding. All Westbrook does if a team and coach allows it is push the pace to get easy assist, hold the ball all day pick and rolling until he can get a assist and don't play no defense at all on the perimeter as a Point Guard to steal rebounds from his Bigs. So yes Westbrook used these tactics to average a Triple Double for 4 seasons, become MVP and to be a sure H.O.F Player, but it won't change the fact of people who actually watch him play that he's Totally Overrated and a Stat Hog Loser.
People who don't know basketball think Russell is a great player. He's an average player with a great motor and athleticism with a green light to jack any shot he wants any time he wants -- and he does a poor job with that privilege. He is why OKC gets bounced in the playoffs early every year -- because he shoots like 35% from the field and under 30% from three, yet is still putting up the most shots on the team. Russell Westbrook is Kobe Bryant during his finals years: a diva chucker who makes his team worse.
@@BigBadB-Rad2003 you better regret saying that dumbass cuz look at him rn slightly worse shooter and he's losing his athleticism this is what happens when a player focuses on their athleticism too much their game doesn't age well and it looks like Westbrick will be out the league in a couple years D Rose wasn't a good shooter in his mvp season but ever since he got injured and he's not as athletic as he was in his mvp season his shooting has improved and I bet D Rose would be out the league before 30 if he never worked on his shooting
I’ve been a massive thunder fan since 2010 and even I know he is not an efficient basketball player. I don’t think he is that overrated because I can assure you that if you’re not a thunder fan, you will know how many mistakes he makes in games. I still believe that if KD had stayed that they would win a ring. Just because Russ and KD spent 8 seasons together, doesn’t mean they weren’t meant to be. Don’t forget that when they entered the nba finals, Russ was only in his 4th season, KD was in his 5th season and Harden and Ibaka were only in their 3rd season. While a hungry for a ring LeBron in his prime surrounded by Wade and Bosh was who they had to go up against. The first few years of Russ and KD were basically the rebuilding years so I would not count that. When they lost in the finals they should’ve still been able to beat the Heat if they had kept Harden which is one of the most stupid trades in the history of the nba and ruined the chances of them winning a ring. And then came injuries when Beverley injured Russ in game 2 of the first round in the 2013 playoffs (fuck Beverley). The next season they lost to the Spurs who ended up being the nba champs. Then KD got injured in the 2014-15 season so that’s out of the picture. Then it finally comes down to trying to defeat a team that went 73-9 during the nba season and the thunder ended up suprising the nba by going up 3-1, but they blew that lead. I can agree that Russ can be the worst player sometimes, but I really think they should’ve given it another shot and they would’ve won it all. In 2016 they added Oladipo who definitely would’ve helped if KD had just stayed. They were both entering their primes and if KD had played like he did in the 2017 finals they for sure would’ve won. Watching the team we have with Russ, PG and Melo right now is slowly and painfully killing my brain cells. I can’t stand watching the guys just isolate instead of making plays like the Warriors or Spurs. Russ these past 10 games has stepped up, but it’s still not working because the guy literally does nothing whenever another teammate has the ball. Instead of running around screens and setting screens for others he just stands there watching the ball. He’s got the speed, the strength, the hops. Why the hell can’t he take advantage of that god given skill? Go back door for lobs, run around like Steph Curry does. No one can catch up to him it doesn’t make sense why he just stands around. I pray for Russ to win a ring, to win a ring, you’ve got to be committed and do anything to win. Even if it means you have the ball less in your hands. #thunderup
Cant you see he rebounds the ball and then passes is it for the easy bucket how is that padding its either he passes is it for the layup or he drives to the rim whats wrong about that
bruh he talked about kyrie with kevin durant, their in nets now, he compared him to pg and now pg got traded for westbrook to rockets. lol what are the chances
This is crazy true, people praise him averaging a trip dub and he was basically being selfish to try to shut up people who said he needed KD. I guess the way to do that was to botch his stats.
Of course he is overrated too... both westbrook and Harden are players that have a lot of talent but all they try is to fill up stat sheets... if you want a guard that makes the team 10 times better try John Wall... he is a REAL Superstar for his team... also Russ makes players that are actually good like Kanter and Adams look like shit... while Wall has made Gortat who is actually worse than Kanter almost an All Star...
By 2nd best player you mean Durant??? If you really believe it you're just ignorant... KD is the most talented player on the face of the earth at this moment... and he hasn't got Russel's brains that are just a useless mass in his head... the fact is that while Russel puts up numbers KD will be winning championships.... so good luck to OKC at the bottom of the league.... cheer on for Russel's numbers.... KD will be getting ring after ring... and before you tell me about how he went to the Warriors to get rings for free, he was the best scorer of the Warriors this season... so they clearly have made it work just fine... while Russel all he cared about was shooting and scoring just as much as Durant and didn't care about actually winning... that's what made Durant say "I'm getting the hell out of this mess... go lose alone..."
Nikos Fotidas, although i agree with you about RW, you're wrong about KD. Kawhi Leonard is the second best player in the league and probably the best right now. He can score just as much as KD and plays way better defense.
I was around during the time Big "O" got his 41 triple doubles. The reason he did not win MVP is because they accused him of padding the numbers by having teammates to box out. He also took rebounds from the bigs.
Westbrook is not overrated not even close I know every thunder fan says this he average a triple double but a pg averaged 10 rebounds the turnovers are bad but that's all look up how many times he got a buzzer beater and he got his team to the 6th seed and sometimes he didn't play defense but look at how many steals he averaged he's one of the best pg in the league maybe even the best I believe he's the best that's just me but ur hating on him for getting beating the record on triple doubles in a season and he didn't only hit "a few" game winners he hit a lot more than that this is just my opinion but no player is perfect or gonna make every buzzer beater or every shot that's all I have to say
Russell Westbrook , lol how many times did he hit a buzzer beater to win the game? I bet kawhi had more buzzer beaters then RW this year.. RW is a fucking overrated ball hog
I'm taking this with a grain of salt as a Thunder fan. Nobody is perfect, and Russell Westbrook has serious flaws in his game. But you seriously dissed him for some really weird things. 1. How is getting many rebounds a bad thing? Thunder rank among top rebounding teams year by year, and Russell Westbrook is consistently among top offensive rebounders among guards. If, as you said, the system is made so RW gets the boards instead of his teammates, how is that his fault? If coach devised that plan, why would he go out of his way to let his teammate grab board, and then immediately pass it right back to him. 2. This is just plain ignorant. Russell Westbrook is simply not a high IQ passer. You found yourself the most suitable comparison, seeing as Chris Paul is on pace to finish his career with greatest assist to turnover ratio of all time while also leading offensive rating of all time. Saying you can "change your way of playing, slow down" is ignorance at it's finest. Can you walk up to Deandre Jordan and say "Improving free throws is easy, you just have to focus" or go to *insert random bad shooter* and say "You need to slow down, and practice harder"? IT IS NOT THAT EASY. Does he make bad plays and turns it over too much? Yes. Is it something that's very easy to fix and he won't do it because of his ego/poor work ethic? No. 3. I'll just say last couple of years, Thunder are consistently among top defensive teams in the NBA. Don't give me "shots contested" crap, Thunder are positive team defensively when Westbrook is on the court. Last season, with more firepower on their offense, Russell was visibly better defensively, and was also among league leaders in steals. I know steals don't equal solid defense, but Westbrook is by no means as awful defender as you made him sound. You can also turn it around, and say Josh Richardson has lowest opponent FG% in the league in ISO. Is he the best defender in the NBA? I doubt many people would say so. 4. RI - DI - CU - LOUS. Here's what you sound like: "I know he makes many clutch plays, but you can't just cherry pick 4-5 games he is clutch and say he's a clutch player. I'll instead cherry pick 4-5 games where he didn't show up and based on that, i'll name him a choker." He has clutch games, he has choke games, like basically every superstar in league history. If you can't deem someone clutch on 4-5 buzzer beater wins, you can't deem him choker on 4-5 playoff games where he struggled. Even one of those games you mentioned. 34 points, 17 free throws, but he shot 34% from the field. Have you looked it from the other side, where those 17 free throws meant atleast 9 fouls opponents had to give up to stop him? Kobe had abundance of similar games during his career, and he was considered clutch through and through. 5. Again, you're mixing up Westbrook and Thunder management. Thunder chose to deal away James Harden, not Westbrook. First and foremost, Westbrook really only became face of the Thunder franchise together with KD after KD fell with an injury. Thunder had major injury issues on a year to year basis during playoffs, and it costed them a lot. I'm pretty sure the year Westbrook was injured, Thunder didn't even make the playoffs. Let's just say "didn't get far" means downing greatest Spurs team in franchise history, and losing to 73-9 superteam after leading 3-1 in the series. Thunder were never main contender, first the KD-WB duo had to face Miami superteam of 3, and they were underdogs, and then had to face Warriors superteam, in which, they are underdogs. You didn't "give KD to Steph Curry", you gave KD to a 73-9 superteam featuring top 5 coach, Stephen Curry, aka first unanimous MVP in league history, Klay Thompson and Draymond Green, defensive player of the year. Thunder are responsible for the situation they are in right now, they were unable to find good coach for years, and it costed them. Having a hero ball offense team works when you have Russell Westbrook, greatest offensive player in the NBA in KD, best isolation low post player in Enes Kanter, Waiters the ISO guy while also having stretch 4 in Ibaka. You remove the players while retaining the offense, and your team is heading downhill. Thunder offense is still the same probably from the time they traded away James Harden, great, except now they have completely different set of players whose games suffer trying to desperately fit into those roles.
3 less than a triple double Which takes away the fans main point also doesn't take away the absurdly low efficiency and the horrible assist to turnover ratio
It’s better if he gets the rebounds so we can get the ball down court faster with his speed or he passes it down court. People say magic is the best PG ever because he can get 20 rebounds and 15 assists whenever he wants but when Westbrook does it he’s padding his stats? The thunder lost in the playoffs not because of Westbrook it was because of the refs being so biased towards the heat, specialists have proven that it was one of the worst play calling finals in NBA history.
U gotta be the biggest Russ hater in the world u must don’t play basketball russ getting the rebound create a fast break for the team easy points for the team and even if he did try to get triple doubles okc win over 80% of they games when Russ get a triple double so I don’t get it where’s the problem?
For your first reason, I have to heavily disagree. Westbrook won 33 games and lost 9 when he got a triple double. They won 14 and lost 27 when he didn't get a triple double. Whether he was doing it for stats or not, it is statistically proven that a triple double makes them most likely to win, and that's what people always overlook.
See, you're wrong about the whole "33-9 when he records a triple double" ACTUALLY, they were 33-9 when he AVERAGED a triple double, for example, let's say in 3 games, he has 25 points, 11 rebounds, 9 assists, the next he has 23 points, 9 rebounds, 14 assists, and the one after that, he has 25 points, 10 rebounds, and 9 assists, none of those 3 statsheets are a triple double, but they AVERAGE OUT TO BE a triple double. What does getting a triple double have to do with winning games? So apparently if someone gets 28 points, 9 rebounds, and 9 assists they suck ass and didn't help win the game at all because no triple double
@@Bankai2169 Lol. Everyone did. A more accurate assessment would be that OKC hasn't made it out of the first round ever since Westbrook began averaging a triple double.
Your last point is being proved so far in the league too. He has the talent and they have been struggling. We’ll see until the end of the season, which I don’t think they will make the playoffs unless Paul George carries the team.
You know what I'm a russell Westbrook fan and I've heard all this way too many times to the point where it doesnt hurt my feelings or anything because people just bandwagon the same points that someone else made just because they seem to he right whether they actually are or not. I'm scrolling through the comments waiting to find something other than stat padding and cant shoot and I cant
Kevin Riddell Hold on James Harden plays better defense than Russell Westbrook.... Bro what are you talking about I'm not saying anything to diss harden but he slacks on defense a lot, I'm not saying Westbrook doesn't every now and then because I know he does. But you can tell Westbrook gives 100 on both sides of the floor mostly offense but he does still play defense. With harden he plays 150 percent offence and barely any defense
OddReptar-- that statistics prove that Westbrook is a worse defender than harden. You can literally see Westbrook going away from his opponent and going into the paint to get the free rebound. Harden does slouch on defense but so does Westbrook
Asher Andrew where were the stats in that comment? Let me pull them up for you, nba.com season defensive efficiency Westbrook is number 23. Funny story James harden isn't even top 50 so what were u saying about statistics?
Harden has a career high of 13 turnovers while Westbrook has a career high of 11. Harden averaged more turnovers career wise and this season wise. You even said Harden plays better defense than Westbrook and that got me f'd up. Russ and KD couldn't play well together because they are both ball dominant players that want to be team leaders. Westbrook does not pad his stats, first of all, he is number one among guards in offensive rebounds, he is in the top 2 fastest players in the league so OKC has a system where he runs it down the court off a rebound for an easy and quick play. Russ is also number one in the nba in fast-break points and assists. You think stat padding is getting an open defensive rebound when your bigs box out the other team. That's called being logical and smart, instead of using a 6'3 Point Guard to box out, use your bigs and let one of the best rebounding guards of all time get the rebound for an easy fast-break bucket/assist. You think Westbrook stat pads, watch a video of Harden fighting his teammates multiple times because they unintentionally denied him the triple double by getting the rebound. Keep on hating my man.
Number one and the most important reason is because Westbrook 's full time job is padding his stats! I cannot imagine what a pain in the ass he is to Paul George and Steven Adams. If I was either one of them, I would be requesting a trade!
I get that the uncontested rebounds may look like he's padding his stats. But there is a reason why he gets those rebounds. He doesn't steal them from his teammates, they allow it and it's not for his stats its to ignite fast breaks which is something the Thunder have been the best in the league for some time now because they have always been an athletic team. They have always done this it's just more prevalent now because KD (who averaged 6-8 rebounds per game) is gone. KD got the fast break igniting rebounds sometimes because he could handle the ball down the court as well and the rest of the Thunder, especially during the 16-17 season, couldn't really do that It's really just Russ. The Thunder are not a good shooting team so they need that one second advantage from Russ getting the rebounds instead of Adams handing it off to him so he or someone else can blow by defenders.
You are funny dude, first you said IT4 is overrated then Russell Westbrook. After all of that you said Curry is a top 3 of all time. Boo you are just a hater.
As a Westbrook fan, I do realize that he does stat pad in his rebounds. That is a negative to some extent. Also, he does have a lower basketball IQ, especially in clutch situations where he should trust his teammates more and when he turns over the ball too many times. Lastly, he does not possess the off-the-ball offense the Thunder needs him to have, in order to generate ball movement and to get open shots. However, you can clearly see him guarding many of the top point guards and guards in general very efficiently on defense, leading him to be 12th in defensive win shares. Also, the Thunder is 19 - 5 when Westbrook gets a triple double, proving that his stat padding does lead to wins for the dysfunctional team he has to play with every game. He can be inefficient a lot of the time, and I do recognize this, but he is often carrying the Thunder throughout games, especially when both PG13 and Melo are both hitting bricks. So, I would not say he is completely overrated, but I would say that there are a lot of areas he needs to improve on. If Westbrook ever gets a great coach, I believe he can get the assistance he needs to become possibly the best PG in the league.
Averaging a triple double isn't even Westbrook's greatest accomplishment. Being the first player to be overrated by breaking a record is his greatest achievement
Victor Payment more like being called overrated so much and having so many haters that u can argue hes the most hated of all time within a year for one of the greatest seasons of all time is his greatest accomplishment. It’s crazy how people and analytics have painted this narrative that he’s a statpadder and ballhog and u guys just spread that without even looking into it like “he only passes for assists” yet he’s 3rd in passes made🤷♂️ and “ how is it that everytime someone leaves Westbrook they get better” like oladipo but look up what oladipo did the off-season after and look at his physicality the year after he went from fat and slow to a super athletic ripped monster and became the first option instead of 3rd after Steven Adams. Those who say Westbrook is a ball hog who makes his teammates worse just don’t know basketball
He wasnt robbed , westbrook deserved it over him and back when he didnt make all nba team he was a viral meme for his defense so the media just said if he isnt gonna even try on defense we arent giving him all nba
Random video idea: do a video on RJ hunter. Went from a march madness legend, first round draft pick, and even started a few games to now not even being in the league
I agree that Westbrook is overrated as a leader,. He is ridiculously selfish, with a horrible shot selection. That's why he averages so many turnovers. I get all of that. But you can't criticize the man for having a nose for the ball when it comes to rebounding. That's actually a positive side to his approach to the game. I do agree with just about everything that you had to say.
Alright, i watched the whole video and you have made some points that without context leaves a lot to interpretation. Like him being a choker, when you bring up his fg% you might want to look at quarterly splits and what have you, because typically he will start out slow then get hot for a few and bring us back. It has happened too many times for it to not be relevant. Then the 4 T.O. agaist the warriors, they were trapping russ on the inbound and his teammates just expected him to be able throw it out without a turnover. You can guess what happens next. And against the rockets last year, he shot a bad percentage in the first couple games until they started getting their shit together and the whole team began to catch fire. The term would be streaky not a choker bro. Triple-Doubles, while leading the league in uncontested rebounds, think about how many empty rebounds that big men get off of free throws. Westbrook takes those and turns into a fastbreak making the rebound kind of important. Secondly, he is the ignition to their fast break offense. He gets the ball in the backcourt and suddenly there is intense pressure coming up the middle and you have two choices, foul him or allow him to dunk or lay you and maybe get the and one. Turnovers dont really tell the whole story, sure turnovers are bad but looking at turnover percentage and usage rate and the picture is painted differently. Then look at all primary ball handlers and notice they all have a lot of turnovers, because they are asked to take risks and more often than not they get them. He is not a horrible defender, he can play some stellar defense when he puts in the effort. I mean he just locked up harden because he wanted to and harden by your definition choked in the 4th. Plus the defensivs scheme is to force everything into steven or the help that is there. That allows the backcourt to play the passing lanes and generate early offense. And finally, kevin durant. Durant is better but durant doesnt have an alpha mentality, he isnt a leader and everyone knows it. Fact is if he didnt have a miserable 4th quarter against the dubs, the thunder win game six. Westbrook was 4/5 in the 4th until he went 0/1. He kept them in the game while durant shitted himself. Great video man but look a little more and the truth is right in front of you.
This video is the definition of “autism” This dude does not know what he’s talking about he said he steals rebounds that makes him overrated, ever thought about the assist that he gives oh wait but he gives bad passes which leads to turnovers, well doesn’t every point guard gotta have a lot of turnovers it shows that they are tryin and wanting to win Wait did I hear you just say he chokes to much Lmaoo but you also said every body chokes a lot of the time, so why would you make that on the list then if everybody chokes oh yea cuz that makes him overrated 🤷♂️ Didn’t you say in your other video that Lebron chokes too but it doesn’t make him a bad player, how is russel choking different. The only thing that kinda made sense is the Kevin Durant part... but weren’t we talking about him nowadays being overrated Lmaoo I don’t see your point. People that see this and read the whole thing thank you guys, this guy does not know what he’s talking about he was probably like oh what if I make a video about russel being overrated would that make people from Oklahoma mad asf and stir up the comments, If he would of made the video reasonable I wouldn’t be even in the comments I wish I was here when the video first came out tho.
Major L. 33-9 when he puts up a triple double. Regardless if he's stat padding or not, it's helping his team put up wins. He knows he's not winning a ring with this sorry ass Thunder team. So just let the man do what he wants. Also, when Russ plays, OKC is number 5 for offensive efficiency. When Russ sits on the bench, OKC is number 30 in offensive efficiency.
Roman Royale He is very overrated. People are distracted by the fasad of his athletism. He is a turnover God, he is inefficient, and he is a prostyle chocke artist. Skill is what gets you far in the league not athletism. Look at Jason Kidd, Stephen Curry, Steve Nash, John Stockton, and Magic Johnson they got far because of skill. And Curry is actually a underrated defender.
Lol steve nash and john stockton both have 0 rings ... so how did that true pg status work for them ? '' ballhog '' westbrook with KD shot the ball less then curry this last year with KD .... russ shot 18.1x per game with KD in 2016 curry shot 18.3x per game last year with KD ... russ also had to run an entire offense because he never had a secondary playmaker , just like this year ... hence why his usage rate was so high his mvp season , westbrook 2016 with KD usage rate was 31% ... this is unarguable its a literal fact he had a usage rate of 31% last year which was 6th in the nba , guards infront of him were dwayne wade , james harden , STEPH CURRY , and kobe bryant ... russ in his career has never shot over 24x per game , players who had to carry like him in his mvp season , were kobe bryant and allen iverson ... how many times did they shoot per game ?? almost 29x per game ....and russ avg more assist then both of those players
Cp0conferencefinals His team was last in pass per game last season. Look Stephen Curry in 2016 had a usage rate of 31 and in 2017 his usage rate was low. The only reason why it might have gotten a little bit high in a certain part of the season is because KD went out. And they went on a 15 game winning streak. Jason Kidd won a ring of a skill. How did you miss that ? Steve Nash and John Stockton went to conference finals and finals. He's been in the top 3 for turnovers for the past 4 years.
Russ gets the rebounds for his stats... he could let the big guy get the rebound and run ahead to get a better position to start the break... that's what all the good teams in the world do... don't tell me he's an innovator... he's not... he's an egomaniac which drove the best thing that ever happened to OKC out to the Warriors.... Golden State thanks you... now they will get 4-5 championships more and you will get what? Westbrook's NUMBERS... nice deal...
OMG THANK U SOMEONE SAID IT. RUSS GETS REBOUNDS TO START FASTBREAKS BC THATS WAT HE IS REALLY GOOD AT. STARTING AND CREATING FASTBREAKS. THIS WHILE VIDEO IS BULLSHIT
To: Randall Henderson. Ok u can do an outlet. But one there is not also going to be a player who actually going to run all the way to the end of the floor just to catch the outlet pass. Outlets pass’s are also risky because one the passer can throw it out of bounds and the defender can catch the outlet pass. So it’s better to let russ start the fast break
You are right and he showed it yet again in his character last night...bottom line...look at the likes vs disliked. About 4,000 ppl agree w us, 1,500 don’t...
I don't think he's a choker in playoffs like you said earlier he thinks he should do it all and that's what he tries to do but I agree he might be more mature now with pg idk
This video is facts, but the CP part is just a lie. Cp played with a stacked clippers team DJ Reddick, Crawford, Blake, and now he plays on Houston. CP is a loser, he hasn’t been good since New Orleans. He’s an overrated flopping complainer. Terrible Example.
NO... he said that if the steals make someone a good defender, Steph would be ttthe best defender of 2016... he was clearly sarcastic... The fact is that Westbrook is the classic egotistical idiot that makes his team WORSE... he makes everyone else look worse than the actually are... and you will see that if Kanter or Adams for example go to another team... they're good players... but Westbrook's numbers make them seem like mediocre at best... And Westbrook's defense is just a joke... he has the athleticism to stay in front of anyone in the world but he doesn't even try to contest anything... even Steph Curry at least TRIES to play defense... and Curry clearly doesn't have any athleticism that can compare to Westbrook... Curry is beaten in defense because of lack of physical attributes... Westbrook is beaten because he doesn't even try... so yeah... I would take Curry over the stupid Russel any day of the week.. one has the mentality of a winner the other has the mentality of a ball hogging stat-maker... who would you want on your team?
Wait my coach told me that big men are supposed to box out and the little guys (guards) should come and get the rebounds now i don't know if its wrong but hey just saying
The reason Steven Adams and the rest of his teammates don't get the rebounds is because they box the other players out so Westbrook can get the rebound and run an instant fast break and it may be considered stat padding but it is what okc has been doing for years with him and Durant.
Now its Westbrook fault that the opponent doesn't contest a rebound with him... Lol!! According to this guy, that maybe why Oscar Robinson and Magic Johnson who are also pg's got as many triple doubles as well. Why were they getting so many rebounds they weren't centers?? Westbrook leaves his guy to get the rebounds after they shoot the ball, because that's what your supposed to do... This may explain the thunder being the best rebounding team for the last two season with and w/o Kd!! CP3 never been to a conference finals let alone an NBA finals! I noticed you didn't talk about harden performance in the 2012 finals... Wonder why? And I still would choose MVP Westbrook!! You act like CP3, Harden, and Lillard have won championship...!! If KD thought he could win a championship on any team without Westbrook, why choose a team that could win one without KD??
If CP3 was playing with Durant and a great supporting cast like Westbrook you think he wouldn't reach the NBA finals??? Seriously??? Durant is the one that dragged Westbrook there... but if you think Westbrook is just as good as Durant then ok... I pass... you just don't know how real basketball is played... the one without 5-6 turnovers in every important game like Westbrook has had... Westbrook is the epitome of a loser... and he will drag down OKC even more because no star wants to play with such an egomaniac idiot... Durant just had enough of Russel's nonsense and just decide to head out... and OKC will pay the price forever... good job OKC... The biggest mistake in this franchise's history is not trading Westbrook when they weren't getting along with Durant... Durant is much more low profile and sensible than Westbrook so he didn't demand him getting traded... but OKC should have done it anyway... get another Star in the trade and just let Durant play with someone with an actual brain for a change... Westbrook has a lot of talent but his mentality and his brain are just sooooo bad... same with Harden... they both make their whole team worse than it is in the process of getting good numbers... CP3 has never done that... CP3 has made an untallented big oaf like DeAndre Jordan a superstar.... he has enhanced Blake Griffin's numbers A LOT... Westbrook would have just kept going on his own and people would have said Blake is not good enough and DeAndre is just a big guy that gets some rebounds because Westbrook would have even tried to steal the rebounds from Jordan...
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Who's here after Thunder lost to Blazers?
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This video has aged like absolute fine wine!
Maybe because Russ is in his mid 30s now
@@theblackmamba8686 or because he did nothing to work on his flaws
@@theblackmamba8686 in okc with pg13 Russ was the problem, in Houston Russ was the problem, in Washington he did good because they weren’t competing for a championship he could just go out there and be himself, then in La where he has hof teammates again and is competing for a championship guess what? Russ was the problem
@@Jose-st3fq How was Russ the problem in OKC? Didn’t PG & Carmelo lay an absolute goose egg in that Utah series? And wasn’t Russ playing through an injury in the playoffs in Houston? And again, you can’t pin that entire lakers year on Russ.
@@xdarkxskullzx Why didn’t you talk about 2019? Because he was the problem in that series.
This video hits it home. I swear Russell Westbrook would probably give GSW a run for their money if he fixes his decision making & stat-padding behaviour.
Facts. Thought I was the only one to come back to this
That will never happen.
Omg
Bruh 5 years and one mind-numbingly bad laker season later and just about everything in this video is spot on. In his prime westbrook's insane athleticism more or less compensated for his flaws but now that he's getting a bit older he just cant hold it together anymore.
That proves Westbrook's problems have ALWAYS been there.
@@laurocoman His free throw shooting and overall efficiency went way down.
the fact that people think your crazy for this is ridiculous , this is the most accurate video ive ever seen . people cant and wont admit it i respect you for being unbiased
eb That's his opinion dumb ass.
averaged a triple double in two consecutive seasons. nobody else ever did it. but he's underrated.
well yeah,because he averages triple double,he had kd now he has kp and he got eliminated by a rookie's team!he is a hell of a player,gifted,talented but he is NO good leader.thats this video's point.he is an elite playmaker but he's not one of the greatests ever because he doesn't prooves it
eb faxx
Heist Icy he got outplayed by a rookie my guy
This aged very well
4 years after this video came out, I guess we could really say that Westbrook is overrated, got traded everywhere and he never won even with the triple doubles. ,, coz really those stats doesn't matter if it doesn't raise overall team stats.
Westbrook will retire as a ringless stat padding artist.
True.. still nice tho
Truee
Chasing Chickens what does ring mean? I'm a casual nba fan....so I don't know the terminologies
Cyber_MasterRace rings are given to the players as an individual award for winning the nba championship
Isaiah Theriault as will you
I'm trying to understand the logic of his teammates and coaching staff, who obviously agreed to spoon-feed him defensive rebounds so that he could pad his statistics. Why would you do that? It's not like he's lead them to the title, or will EVER lead them to the title. His teammates are helping to turn him into a HOF player while he does nothing... NOTHING... to win big games.
Westbrook is an anchor on any team he joins because he doesn't care if his team wins an NBA Championship. He only cares about his stat line, and leading the team to victory is somebody else's problem.
You aint even gotta hear wat he saying just watch the video. Every play on defense he creeps away from his man to get closer to a rebound, the shit should be a crime. I aint gone say he overrated, but stop comparing him to curry.
Bossmane Justo Westbrook>curry
Mugen
Well to be fair Westbrook is 10x Better then steph on defense.
Bossmane Justo curry and Lillard are best point guards
@@booker4984 facts
Forget about the triple double because curry can't do that's it's unfair to compare it against curry . The real questions are what Is curry without a jumpshot he has no athleticism . That's fax . Also curry doesnt win the last 2 rings against cavs if kd wasn't there . To prove my point kd gets injured against the raptors who won the playoff series
They great thing about this season is that every thing you are said in this video is being proved right by how god-awful OKC has been playing. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Billy Donovan runs the exact same offense Scott Brooks ran when he coached OKC.
Don't you think there's more to Thunder's problems than Russell Westbrook considering offence is very similar / the same as the one they had when they had completely different set of players with completely different skill sets.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Russell Westbrook tf u laughing at boy? i’m an okc fan and you’re not the answer for okc if they ever wanted to make it past the first round. your late game decision makings, attitude against other teams/players and leadership role is terrible as hell. you just a stat hunter bro fr. you the reason why kd bounced. okc fucked up when they made you their franchise player 😂 now it’s been proven for 3 straight years
Action Jackson shutup bro why you ain’t talking ab his season now your quiet 🤫
@@kareemthedream7210 yea westbrook went out sad again. That boy is overrated as hell
He actually turns it over more than the stats show because when you come down court and jack up a contested 3pt brick and the defense gets the rebound it's essentially the same as a turnover.
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Oscar Robertsons average for his first 6 years in the NBA : 30.4 pts, 10 rb, 10.7 ast.
No padding needed.
Just sayin.
You don’t need padding when you play in a dogshit era lol
@@user-or8ys1ek8y Yeah. I'm not usually a guy who thinks all old era players are as good as current day. However, that is one sweet line to look at ain't it?
@@LLPOF How the hell do you know? I want to see footage too
@@duantae basketball reference is free. but oscar did the same thing russ did by having his bigs box out for him and do all the work. i will admit he had a much better jumpshot than westbrook though.
Bro already knew back then😂😭
5 years later this take aged like fine wine
All 5 reasons are the reason KD left💯
Took ppl years to finally see it....KD knew what it was! Russ is a Diva no excuse not to be a simple IQ point guard
KD wanted to take the easy way out
@@manniesupasport7977 lol what would you have done? Russ hasn't gotten close to getting past the first round. And if you count getting carried by the rockets this year with a horrible efficiency performance then wowwwwwww lol
@@frazierfranchiz3
Westbrook and his so called efficiency problems doesn’t make an excuse for KD joining a super team that already won a chip & coming off a 73 win record setting season.
KD could of went somewhere else and COMPETED for and won titles. Code word COMPETED. Not take the easy way out
@@miyagifatghost2684 no dude he's not a diva
Crazy how accurate this still is
13:09 Did you just predict the future ??? Wtf 😂👀
Yeah and look how that turned out 😬
Oof this aged way too well
That is exactly what I think about Westbrook. Well said
This guys reply ^ made my week 😂😂😂😂. Thunder holding that L right now
You have no idea what you're talking about. Russell pads stats. He is 22-19 with melo, pg, and steven adams. He is a cancer. Shut your dumbass up
TheDiamondFinn Gaming no one said he isn't good he's just overrated... still a god just overrated
TheDiamondFinn. lol. They gave Russ MVP because they felt sorry for him. OKC hasn't been a contender since Harden and KD. Even this year with both PG and Melo they SUCKED. First round elimination. Yeah, tell me again that Russ is good--he never has and never will win anything.
Qichar but he Like averages triple doubles on lottery teams. 8 wins on contenders while he has a trip dub and 26 on the fucking lakers Bulls and Grizzlies when he has one. Those triple doubles are overrated only to him. If Simmons or Lebron gets one its in the flow of the game most of the time. Rondo almost averaged a trip dub these playoffs with 8 points 8 rebounds and 12 assissts. Also he had more assissts alone than the whole okc combined.
This is why James Harden should've won MVP in the 2016-2017 season.
or Lebron
@@prince_sach50 no😂😂
@@yuhgirlamy5731 why not lebron?but russ deserved mvp
Westbrook is basically everyone in 2k my career, chasing the rebounds and not giving af about guarding open shots
Who's here after that bum scored 8 vs the Blazers on 7.7% shooting🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭
he just went 5-15fg against hornets 😂
Here after Bucks blow out 😂💀💀
@@AllAboutPurple and Westbrick scored 10 points💀💀💀
Who’s here after the lakers missed the play in
Great video. Too bad so many people don't understand the game and are amazed into stupidity by athletic pgs with poor basketball iq when compared to some others, who's numbers aren't as amazing but overall help their team win.
TheDiamondFinn Gaming nah he is
Why did you care about a comment 5 months ago? If you think westbrook isn't overrated, you simply do not understand basketball
Wyatt Felling Yo dumb ass clearly don't understand basketball if you think he is overrated Lmao.
Wyatt felling no u don't if it's so easy than how come every 1 isn't doing it I hate people like you bball isn't all about efficiency and stats it's about heart and Westbrook is full of it yea he's rash and makes bad decision s but that's what makes him fun to watch get of ya ass and play some actually bball and maybe you'll find out you can't calculate heart
MKpwn-Yeah he took a bad team to the playoffs.
I love his intensity, I love his work ethic, I love his athleticism. But I absolutely HATE Russell Westbrook's decision making on the court. Until he improves that he'll never win anything.
Russell is one off my favourite players and I believe you its all true
Noah O'Brien same man
JAMES HARDAN leaves turns to a MVP.
KD leaves gets a RING.
VICTOR OLADIPO gets traded turns to a ALL-STAR.
Manny King Money
James Harden went to be the first option rather than the 6th man
KD goes to the golden state fucking warriors.
And Victor Oladipo goes and gets a higher usage rate as well as becoming the first option
Westbrook trash, he needs to learn from rookie ja Morant
In 2013/14 when KD won the MVP Westbrook played half the season and they won almost 59 games, lost to the Spurs in the WCF, next year kd played 30 games and they missed the playoffs.
@@shad2529 Westbrook trash
You a real one for this ☝🏾
Bandwagon KD haters are not tryn hear this. U got my like, sub and twitter follow for this great vid with FACTS!!
Darth Darthius he ain’t better than Harden and he shouldn’t have won the MVP, Harden should have gone back to back MVP you know that! Westbrook ran out of excuse! They say he didn’t have help, they got him help with Paul George and Carmelo! Still he choked in the 1st round and almost got eliminated from the playoffs
KoolHandLuke Imagine calling someone a “bandwagon KD hater” wtf STFU forever
Vu Pham and harden chocks in the playoffs and Westbrook didn’t chock
#1
played with kevin durant and James harden, no ring
also now plays with melo and pg, no playoffs
BboyZoinks ok im not disagreeing or anything but don’t forget when he was with james harden, james harden was not the same player he turned into and same with melo vs prime melo
benny shin that’s fair
13:16 “give him to Kyrie Irving hopefully he matures” in 2022 yah we tried that and it failed not a good idea
Gets recommended this in 2022 right after lakers miss the play in😭😭😭😭
Russ is pure Athleticism. Father time will slowly take that away from him as he gets older and then he will need to rely more on fundamentals a la Kobe and Jordan. Then his game will really be exposed.
And that's what exactly happened to him on the Lakers
Westbrook is my MyCareer spirit animal
Lols. Same here. Averaging about 37pts 13rebs 11asts per game.
Dame is mine
But you actually win and win a championship
Ouuuuu I hope you not fr
@@Christhedon96 I mean he's not wrong but the thing is we be selfish but we win titles chips and westbroke hasn't
You saying a Offensively Inefficient Horrible Defensive Turnover Machine Overall Low Basketball I.Q On Both Sides Of The Ball Stat Padding Stat Hog Team Chemistry Killing Cancer Loser in Westbrook is Overrated?
I don't believe you.
All of that and still managed to be an MVP, first-ballot hall of famer, Top 75, recognized as a top ten point guard ever, and made the NBA finals at 22 years old.
@@xdarkxskullzx yeah because Westbrick learn the Selfish Dark Art of Stat Padding.
After KD left OKC the Thunders allowed Westbrook to do whatever he wanted to pad his stats and made sure the team was focused on not winning, but allowing Russ to pad his stats. This help Westbrook create the Selfish Dark Art of Stat Padding.
All Westbrook does if a team and coach allows it is push the pace to get easy assist, hold the ball all day pick and rolling until he can get a assist and don't play no defense at all on the perimeter as a Point Guard to steal rebounds from his Bigs.
So yes Westbrook used these tactics to average a Triple Double for 4 seasons, become MVP and to be a sure H.O.F Player, but it won't change the fact of people who actually watch him play that he's Totally Overrated and a Stat Hog Loser.
People who don't know basketball think Russell is a great player. He's an average player with a great motor and athleticism with a green light to jack any shot he wants any time he wants -- and he does a poor job with that privilege. He is why OKC gets bounced in the playoffs early every year -- because he shoots like 35% from the field and under 30% from three, yet is still putting up the most shots on the team. Russell Westbrook is Kobe Bryant during his finals years: a diva chucker who makes his team worse.
Stfu hater. If you really think he is average you're delusional. Watch some damn basketball you fucking idiot.
BigBadB-Rad 2003 Westbrook is a weird case, he is good but he’s not a player that I want on my team😂
@@BigBadB-Rad2003 you better regret saying that dumbass cuz look at him rn slightly worse shooter and he's losing his athleticism this is what happens when a player focuses on their athleticism too much their game doesn't age well and it looks like Westbrick will be out the league in a couple years D Rose wasn't a good shooter in his mvp season but ever since he got injured and he's not as athletic as he was in his mvp season his shooting has improved and I bet D Rose would be out the league before 30 if he never worked on his shooting
I’ve been a massive thunder fan since 2010 and even I know he is not an efficient basketball player. I don’t think he is that overrated because I can assure you that if you’re not a thunder fan, you will know how many mistakes he makes in games. I still believe that if KD had stayed that they would win a ring. Just because Russ and KD spent 8 seasons together, doesn’t mean they weren’t meant to be. Don’t forget that when they entered the nba finals, Russ was only in his 4th season, KD was in his 5th season and Harden and Ibaka were only in their 3rd season. While a hungry for a ring LeBron in his prime surrounded by Wade and Bosh was who they had to go up against. The first few years of Russ and KD were basically the rebuilding years so I would not count that. When they lost in the finals they should’ve still been able to beat the Heat if they had kept Harden which is one of the most stupid trades in the history of the nba and ruined the chances of them winning a ring. And then came injuries when Beverley injured Russ in game 2 of the first round in the 2013 playoffs (fuck Beverley). The next season they lost to the Spurs who ended up being the nba champs. Then KD got injured in the 2014-15 season so that’s out of the picture. Then it finally comes down to trying to defeat a team that went 73-9 during the nba season and the thunder ended up suprising the nba by going up 3-1, but they blew that lead. I can agree that Russ can be the worst player sometimes, but I really think they should’ve given it another shot and they would’ve won it all. In 2016 they added Oladipo who definitely would’ve helped if KD had just stayed. They were both entering their primes and if KD had played like he did in the 2017 finals they for sure would’ve won. Watching the team we have with Russ, PG and Melo right now is slowly and painfully killing my brain cells. I can’t stand watching the guys just isolate instead of making plays like the Warriors or Spurs. Russ these past 10 games has stepped up, but it’s still not working because the guy literally does nothing whenever another teammate has the ball. Instead of running around screens and setting screens for others he just stands there watching the ball. He’s got the speed, the strength, the hops. Why the hell can’t he take advantage of that god given skill? Go back door for lobs, run around like Steph Curry does. No one can catch up to him it doesn’t make sense why he just stands around. I pray for Russ to win a ring, to win a ring, you’ve got to be committed and do anything to win. Even if it means you have the ball less in your hands. #thunderup
I'm here after that brick laying bum scored 5 points vs the Wizards on 18% shooting
Cant you see he rebounds the ball and then passes is it for the easy bucket how is that padding its either he passes is it for the layup or he drives to the rim whats wrong about that
bruh he talked about kyrie with kevin durant, their in nets now, he compared him to pg and now pg got traded for westbrook to rockets. lol what are the chances
And now KD plays with Kyrie 13:08
This is crazy true, people praise him averaging a trip dub and he was basically being selfish to try to shut up people who said he needed KD. I guess the way to do that was to botch his stats.
harden overated to then???? Cause he averaged more turnovers.
cuz he's team actually win
jasper yong well russ team won 47 games after the 2 nd best player left and they wasnt well constructed around russ so wat he did was impressive
Of course he is overrated too... both westbrook and Harden are players that have a lot of talent but all they try is to fill up stat sheets... if you want a guard that makes the team 10 times better try John Wall... he is a REAL Superstar for his team... also Russ makes players that are actually good like Kanter and Adams look like shit... while Wall has made Gortat who is actually worse than Kanter almost an All Star...
By 2nd best player you mean Durant??? If you really believe it you're just ignorant... KD is the most talented player on the face of the earth at this moment... and he hasn't got Russel's brains that are just a useless mass in his head... the fact is that while Russel puts up numbers KD will be winning championships.... so good luck to OKC at the bottom of the league.... cheer on for Russel's numbers.... KD will be getting ring after ring... and before you tell me about how he went to the Warriors to get rings for free, he was the best scorer of the Warriors this season... so they clearly have made it work just fine... while Russel all he cared about was shooting and scoring just as much as Durant and didn't care about actually winning... that's what made Durant say "I'm getting the hell out of this mess... go lose alone..."
Nikos Fotidas, although i agree with you about RW, you're wrong about KD. Kawhi Leonard is the second best player in the league and probably the best right now. He can score just as much as KD and plays way better defense.
13:11 wtf dude predicted the future lol
I was around during the time Big "O" got his 41 triple doubles. The reason he did not win MVP is because they accused him of padding the numbers by having teammates to box out. He also took rebounds from the bigs.
Much respect for this video man congrats on the 2K subs. Keep up the grind man and hopefully you can spit more facts like in this video
Westbrook is not overrated not even close I know every thunder fan says this he average a triple double but a pg averaged 10 rebounds the turnovers are bad but that's all look up how many times he got a buzzer beater and he got his team to the 6th seed and sometimes he didn't play defense but look at how many steals he averaged he's one of the best pg in the league maybe even the best I believe he's the best that's just me but ur hating on him for getting beating the record on triple doubles in a season and he didn't only hit "a few" game winners he hit a lot more than that this is just my opinion but no player is perfect or gonna make every buzzer beater or every shot that's all I have to say
Russell Westbrook , lol how many times did he hit a buzzer beater to win the game? I bet kawhi had more buzzer beaters then RW this year.. RW is a fucking overrated ball hog
J W well WHO THE FUCK WOULD HE PASS IT TO?!!
thunder 03 keke 10/33
His teammates.
JW hush up cuz u obviously don’t know shit about basketball
I'm taking this with a grain of salt as a Thunder fan. Nobody is perfect, and Russell Westbrook has serious flaws in his game. But you seriously dissed him for some really weird things.
1. How is getting many rebounds a bad thing? Thunder rank among top rebounding teams year by year, and Russell Westbrook is consistently among top offensive rebounders among guards. If, as you said, the system is made so RW gets the boards instead of his teammates, how is that his fault? If coach devised that plan, why would he go out of his way to let his teammate grab board, and then immediately pass it right back to him.
2. This is just plain ignorant. Russell Westbrook is simply not a high IQ passer. You found yourself the most suitable comparison, seeing as Chris Paul is on pace to finish his career with greatest assist to turnover ratio of all time while also leading offensive rating of all time. Saying you can "change your way of playing, slow down" is ignorance at it's finest. Can you walk up to Deandre Jordan and say "Improving free throws is easy, you just have to focus" or go to *insert random bad shooter* and say "You need to slow down, and practice harder"? IT IS NOT THAT EASY. Does he make bad plays and turns it over too much? Yes. Is it something that's very easy to fix and he won't do it because of his ego/poor work ethic? No.
3. I'll just say last couple of years, Thunder are consistently among top defensive teams in the NBA. Don't give me "shots contested" crap, Thunder are positive team defensively when Westbrook is on the court. Last season, with more firepower on their offense, Russell was visibly better defensively, and was also among league leaders in steals. I know steals don't equal solid defense, but Westbrook is by no means as awful defender as you made him sound. You can also turn it around, and say Josh Richardson has lowest opponent FG% in the league in ISO. Is he the best defender in the NBA? I doubt many people would say so.
4. RI - DI - CU - LOUS. Here's what you sound like: "I know he makes many clutch plays, but you can't just cherry pick 4-5 games he is clutch and say he's a clutch player. I'll instead cherry pick 4-5 games where he didn't show up and based on that, i'll name him a choker." He has clutch games, he has choke games, like basically every superstar in league history. If you can't deem someone clutch on 4-5 buzzer beater wins, you can't deem him choker on 4-5 playoff games where he struggled. Even one of those games you mentioned. 34 points, 17 free throws, but he shot 34% from the field. Have you looked it from the other side, where those 17 free throws meant atleast 9 fouls opponents had to give up to stop him? Kobe had abundance of similar games during his career, and he was considered clutch through and through.
5. Again, you're mixing up Westbrook and Thunder management. Thunder chose to deal away James Harden, not Westbrook. First and foremost, Westbrook really only became face of the Thunder franchise together with KD after KD fell with an injury. Thunder had major injury issues on a year to year basis during playoffs, and it costed them a lot. I'm pretty sure the year Westbrook was injured, Thunder didn't even make the playoffs. Let's just say "didn't get far" means downing greatest Spurs team in franchise history, and losing to 73-9 superteam after leading 3-1 in the series. Thunder were never main contender, first the KD-WB duo had to face Miami superteam of 3, and they were underdogs, and then had to face Warriors superteam, in which, they are underdogs. You didn't "give KD to Steph Curry", you gave KD to a 73-9 superteam featuring top 5 coach, Stephen Curry, aka first unanimous MVP in league history, Klay Thompson and Draymond Green, defensive player of the year.
Thunder are responsible for the situation they are in right now, they were unable to find good coach for years, and it costed them. Having a hero ball offense team works when you have Russell Westbrook, greatest offensive player in the NBA in KD, best isolation low post player in Enes Kanter, Waiters the ISO guy while also having stretch 4 in Ibaka. You remove the players while retaining the offense, and your team is heading downhill. Thunder offense is still the same probably from the time they traded away James Harden, great, except now they have completely different set of players whose games suffer trying to desperately fit into those roles.
5 years later, Westbrook still OVERRATED. KD have Kyrie as you said, even Harden, but uhh ...
I don’t mind anything else, but just letting you guys know, Russell averaged over 7 rebounds before he started stat padding
3 less than a triple double Which takes away the fans main point also doesn't take away the absurdly low efficiency and the horrible assist to turnover ratio
These are great videos. I'm so glad I found this and "Basketball Examined."
even though he's overrated, he is still pretty good.
He's speaking straight facts. Thunder fans, the truth hurts
Westbrook, the most selfish player in existence.
westbrook, a waste of God given talent
You predicted the Future
It’s better if he gets the rebounds so we can get the ball down court faster with his speed or he passes it down court. People say magic is the best PG ever because he can get 20 rebounds and 15 assists whenever he wants but when Westbrook does it he’s padding his stats? The thunder lost in the playoffs not because of Westbrook it was because of the refs being so biased towards the heat, specialists have proven that it was one of the worst play calling finals in NBA history.
U gotta be the biggest Russ hater in the world u must don’t play basketball russ getting the rebound create a fast break for the team easy points for the team and even if he did try to get triple doubles okc win over 80% of they games when Russ get a triple double so I don’t get it where’s the problem?
Lmao salty Westbrook how u got the best SG in the league and still be on the PLay In ....in the fucking EAST 💀💀🤣
Every year that passes, the more this video is validated.
For your first reason, I have to heavily disagree. Westbrook won 33 games and lost 9 when he got a triple double. They won 14 and lost 27 when he didn't get a triple double. Whether he was doing it for stats or not, it is statistically proven that a triple double makes them most likely to win, and that's what people always overlook.
Most of those wins were against bad teams.
See, you're wrong about the whole "33-9 when he records a triple double" ACTUALLY, they were 33-9 when he AVERAGED a triple double, for example, let's say in 3 games, he has 25 points, 11 rebounds, 9 assists, the next he has 23 points, 9 rebounds, 14 assists, and the one after that, he has 25 points, 10 rebounds, and 9 assists, none of those 3 statsheets are a triple double, but they AVERAGE OUT TO BE a triple double. What does getting a triple double have to do with winning games? So apparently if someone gets 28 points, 9 rebounds, and 9 assists they suck ass and didn't help win the game at all because no triple double
Yeah they won all those 3 first round exits, LOL
Bruh I came back to this vid just to laugh at these asinine comments defending Westbrook 😂
@@Bankai2169
Lol. Everyone did.
A more accurate assessment would be that OKC hasn't made it out of the first round ever since Westbrook began averaging a triple double.
Your last point is being proved so far in the league too. He has the talent and they have been struggling. We’ll see until the end of the season, which I don’t think they will make the playoffs unless Paul George carries the team.
Who's here after Westbrick went 4/20 against the Nets
Here after lakers lost to Bucks 😂😂💀💀
@@AllAboutPurple and scored 10 points🤣🤣😂😂😭😭😭😭💀💀💀👎👎👎
@@juliangarcia1221 here after they lost in the playoffs
You know what I'm a russell Westbrook fan and I've heard all this way too many times to the point where it doesnt hurt my feelings or anything because people just bandwagon the same points that someone else made just because they seem to he right whether they actually are or not. I'm scrolling through the comments waiting to find something other than stat padding and cant shoot and I cant
Did he just say harden had better defense than Westbrook.... Do I really need to say much more about this video
OddReptar-- harden is a better defender though
Kevin Riddell Hold on James Harden plays better defense than Russell Westbrook.... Bro what are you talking about I'm not saying anything to diss harden but he slacks on defense a lot, I'm not saying Westbrook doesn't every now and then because I know he does. But you can tell Westbrook gives 100 on both sides of the floor mostly offense but he does still play defense. With harden he plays 150 percent offence and barely any defense
OddReptar-- that statistics prove that Westbrook is a worse defender than harden. You can literally see Westbrook going away from his opponent and going into the paint to get the free rebound. Harden does slouch on defense but so does Westbrook
Asher Andrew where were the stats in that comment? Let me pull them up for you, nba.com season defensive efficiency Westbrook is number 23. Funny story James harden isn't even top 50 so what were u saying about statistics?
harden is a better defender how westrbook is a better defender if he not even contest the shots
Harden has a career high of 13 turnovers while Westbrook has a career high of 11. Harden averaged more turnovers career wise and this season wise. You even said Harden plays better defense than Westbrook and that got me f'd up. Russ and KD couldn't play well together because they are both ball dominant players that want to be team leaders. Westbrook does not pad his stats, first of all, he is number one among guards in offensive rebounds, he is in the top 2 fastest players in the league so OKC has a system where he runs it down the court off a rebound for an easy and quick play. Russ is also number one in the nba in fast-break points and assists. You think stat padding is getting an open defensive rebound when your bigs box out the other team. That's called being logical and smart, instead of using a 6'3 Point Guard to box out, use your bigs and let one of the best rebounding guards of all time get the rebound for an easy fast-break bucket/assist. You think Westbrook stat pads, watch a video of Harden fighting his teammates multiple times because they unintentionally denied him the triple double by getting the rebound. Keep on hating my man.
this comment has not aged well
Number one and the most important reason is because Westbrook 's full time job is padding his stats! I cannot imagine what a pain in the ass he is to Paul George and Steven Adams. If I was either one of them, I would be requesting a trade!
Paul George had his best season with him and so did Steven Adams so.... what you talking ab
@@kareemthedream7210 and paul george left his ass. What are you talking about?!
I get that the uncontested rebounds may look like he's padding his stats. But there is a reason why he gets those rebounds. He doesn't steal them from his teammates, they allow it and it's not for his stats its to ignite fast breaks which is something the Thunder have been the best in the league for some time now because they have always been an athletic team. They have always done this it's just more prevalent now because KD (who averaged 6-8 rebounds per game) is gone. KD got the fast break igniting rebounds sometimes because he could handle the ball down the court as well and the rest of the Thunder, especially during the 16-17 season, couldn't really do that It's really just Russ. The Thunder are not a good shooting team so they need that one second advantage from Russ getting the rebounds instead of Adams handing it off to him so he or someone else can blow by defenders.
So what about the defense? He wud literally leave players wide open on the perimeter just to get the rebound
1000% accurate. Preachh🙌🙌👏
Love the video. Can you make a part ii of this now that the Russ apologists can fall back on the "he don't have help" excuse
Bush did 9/11, kobe is top 1
HaRaMbE LOL saying Bush did 9/11 and saying Kobe is #1 are both the products of a delusional mind.
On point. Keep making accurate content that pisses off mainstream idiots. Good work.
You are funny dude, first you said IT4 is overrated then Russell Westbrook. After all of that you said Curry is a top 3 of all time. Boo you are just a hater.
Ah Thunder fans
As a Westbrook fan, I do realize that he does stat pad in his rebounds. That is a negative to some extent. Also, he does have a lower basketball IQ, especially in clutch situations where he should trust his teammates more and when he turns over the ball too many times. Lastly, he does not possess the off-the-ball offense the Thunder needs him to have, in order to generate ball movement and to get open shots. However, you can clearly see him guarding many of the top point guards and guards in general very efficiently on defense, leading him to be 12th in defensive win shares. Also, the Thunder is 19 - 5 when Westbrook gets a triple double, proving that his stat padding does lead to wins for the dysfunctional team he has to play with every game. He can be inefficient a lot of the time, and I do recognize this, but he is often carrying the Thunder throughout games, especially when both PG13 and Melo are both hitting bricks. So, I would not say he is completely overrated, but I would say that there are a lot of areas he needs to improve on. If Westbrook ever gets a great coach, I believe he can get the assistance he needs to become possibly the best PG in the league.
you still believe that shit now?
Averaging a triple double isn't even Westbrook's greatest accomplishment.
Being the first player to be overrated by breaking a record is his greatest achievement
Victor Payment more like being called overrated so much and having so many haters that u can argue hes the most hated of all time within a year for one of the greatest seasons of all time is his greatest accomplishment. It’s crazy how people and analytics have painted this narrative that he’s a statpadder and ballhog and u guys just spread that without even looking into it like “he only passes for assists” yet he’s 3rd in passes made🤷♂️ and “ how is it that everytime someone leaves Westbrook they get better” like oladipo but look up what oladipo did the off-season after and look at his physicality the year after he went from fat and slow to a super athletic ripped monster and became the first option instead of 3rd after Steven Adams. Those who say Westbrook is a ball hog who makes his teammates worse just don’t know basketball
@@erickperez4232 and how's that? You're honestly fucking delusional. Kobe is 2nd all time in Lakers assists, you wanna tell me kobe wasn't a ballhog?
Up to this date Westbrook is the all time leader in turnovers per game with 4.05! I thought Iverson or Harden are worse, but nope...
Also westbrook has never avg 6 turnovers a game .... james harden led the nba in turnovers ... why is he not overrated ? lol
Cp0conferencefinals cause his team actually wins
Cp0conferencefinals he got robbed from MVP he didn't make to a all NBA team averaging 26 with 47 percent field goal
He wasnt robbed , westbrook deserved it over him and back when he didnt make all nba team he was a viral meme for his defense so the media just said if he isnt gonna even try on defense we arent giving him all nba
Does Westbrook play defense
Bc he wins games
Random video idea: do a video on RJ hunter. Went from a march madness legend, first round draft pick, and even started a few games to now not even being in the league
Harden kd russ were young in 2012
I agree that Westbrook is overrated as a leader,. He is ridiculously selfish, with a horrible shot selection. That's why he averages so many turnovers. I get all of that. But you can't criticize the man for having a nose for the ball when it comes to rebounding. That's actually a positive side to his approach to the game.
I do agree with just about everything that you had to say.
Yessss my brother finally somebody made this video he's definitely overrated
TURNUP PAPI TALES your stupid Westbrook is best point guard in the league dumbass
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im talking to turnup, westbrook is going to prove you all wrong and be in the hall of fame
SBM Gaming your a salty ass hater shut your bitch ass up
@SLEEP TIGHT Roblox why was he ever 13 percent from 3 in the playoffs anyways?
Alright, i watched the whole video and you have made some points that without context leaves a lot to interpretation. Like him being a choker, when you bring up his fg% you might want to look at quarterly splits and what have you, because typically he will start out slow then get hot for a few and bring us back. It has happened too many times for it to not be relevant. Then the 4 T.O. agaist the warriors, they were trapping russ on the inbound and his teammates just expected him to be able throw it out without a turnover. You can guess what happens next. And against the rockets last year, he shot a bad percentage in the first couple games until they started getting their shit together and the whole team began to catch fire. The term would be streaky not a choker bro. Triple-Doubles, while leading the league in uncontested rebounds, think about how many empty rebounds that big men get off of free throws. Westbrook takes those and turns into a fastbreak making the rebound kind of important. Secondly, he is the ignition to their fast break offense. He gets the ball in the backcourt and suddenly there is intense pressure coming up the middle and you have two choices, foul him or allow him to dunk or lay you and maybe get the and one. Turnovers dont really tell the whole story, sure turnovers are bad but looking at turnover percentage and usage rate and the picture is painted differently. Then look at all primary ball handlers and notice they all have a lot of turnovers, because they are asked to take risks and more often than not they get them. He is not a horrible defender, he can play some stellar defense when he puts in the effort. I mean he just locked up harden because he wanted to and harden by your definition choked in the 4th. Plus the defensivs scheme is to force everything into steven or the help that is there. That allows the backcourt to play the passing lanes and generate early offense. And finally, kevin durant. Durant is better but durant doesnt have an alpha mentality, he isnt a leader and everyone knows it. Fact is if he didnt have a miserable 4th quarter against the dubs, the thunder win game six. Westbrook was 4/5 in the 4th until he went 0/1. He kept them in the game while durant shitted himself. Great video man but look a little more and the truth is right in front of you.
This video is the definition of “autism”
This dude does not know what he’s talking about he said he steals rebounds that makes him overrated, ever thought about the assist that he gives oh wait but he gives bad passes which leads to turnovers, well doesn’t every point guard gotta have a lot of turnovers it shows that they are tryin and wanting to win
Wait did I hear you just say he chokes to much Lmaoo but you also said every body chokes a lot of the time, so why would you make that on the list then if everybody chokes oh yea cuz that makes him overrated 🤷♂️
Didn’t you say in your other video that Lebron chokes too but it doesn’t make him a bad player, how is russel choking different. The only thing that kinda made sense is the Kevin Durant part... but weren’t we talking about him nowadays being overrated Lmaoo I don’t see your point.
People that see this and read the whole thing thank you guys, this guy does not know what he’s talking about he was probably like oh what if I make a video about russel being overrated would that make people from Oklahoma mad asf and stir up the comments,
If he would of made the video reasonable I wouldn’t be even in the comments
I wish I was here when the video first came out tho.
Lmfaooo I've been saying this for 6 years it's more relevant than ever. Thanks yung M
Major L. 33-9 when he puts up a triple double. Regardless if he's stat padding or not, it's helping his team put up wins. He knows he's not winning a ring with this sorry ass Thunder team. So just let the man do what he wants.
Also, when Russ plays, OKC is number 5 for offensive efficiency.
When Russ sits on the bench, OKC is number 30 in offensive efficiency.
Roman Royale He is very overrated. People are distracted by the fasad of his athletism. He is a turnover God, he is inefficient, and he is a prostyle chocke artist. Skill is what gets you far in the league not athletism. Look at Jason Kidd, Stephen Curry, Steve Nash, John Stockton, and Magic Johnson they got far because of skill. And Curry is actually a underrated defender.
Marvin M. McIntyre 😃
Lol steve nash and john stockton both have 0 rings ... so how did that true pg status work for them ? '' ballhog '' westbrook with KD shot the ball less then curry this last year with KD .... russ shot 18.1x per game with KD in 2016 curry shot 18.3x per game last year with KD ... russ also had to run an entire offense because he never had a secondary playmaker , just like this year ... hence why his usage rate was so high his mvp season , westbrook 2016 with KD usage rate was 31% ... this is unarguable its a literal fact he had a usage rate of 31% last year which was 6th in the nba , guards infront of him were dwayne wade , james harden , STEPH CURRY , and kobe bryant ... russ in his career has never shot over 24x per game , players who had to carry like him in his mvp season , were kobe bryant and allen iverson ... how many times did they shoot per game ?? almost 29x per game ....and russ avg more assist then both of those players
Cp0conferencefinals His team was last in pass per game last season. Look Stephen Curry in 2016 had a usage rate of 31 and in 2017 his usage rate was low. The only reason why it might have gotten a little bit high in a certain part of the season is because KD went out. And they went on a 15 game winning streak. Jason Kidd won a ring of a skill. How did you miss that ? Steve Nash and John Stockton went to conference finals and finals. He's been in the top 3 for turnovers for the past 4 years.
Roman Royale they are 33-9 because they have a system built around his triple doubles.
Wait, he defended less 3s than D. Jordan?!?!?! Holy bricks Russ!
Russ gets the rebound to start the break
Russ gets the rebounds for his stats... he could let the big guy get the rebound and run ahead to get a better position to start the break... that's what all the good teams in the world do... don't tell me he's an innovator... he's not... he's an egomaniac which drove the best thing that ever happened to OKC out to the Warriors.... Golden State thanks you... now they will get 4-5 championships more and you will get what? Westbrook's NUMBERS... nice deal...
Nikos Fotidas The Thunder were fifth in fast break points....
@@nikosfotidas5125 you're pretty fucking stupid, its faster for russ to get the rebound and start the break
OMG THANK U SOMEONE SAID IT. RUSS GETS REBOUNDS TO START FASTBREAKS BC THATS WAT HE IS REALLY GOOD AT. STARTING AND CREATING FASTBREAKS. THIS WHILE VIDEO IS BULLSHIT
To: Randall Henderson. Ok u can do an outlet. But one there is not also going to be a player who actually going to run all the way to the end of the floor just to catch the outlet pass. Outlets pass’s are also risky because one the passer can throw it out of bounds and the defender can catch the outlet pass. So it’s better to let russ start the fast break
You are right and he showed it yet again in his character last night...bottom line...look at the likes vs disliked. About 4,000 ppl agree w us, 1,500 don’t...
I don't think he's a choker in playoffs like you said earlier he thinks he should do it all and that's what he tries to do but I agree he might be more mature now with pg idk
Russ wasnt the only one that choked in the playoffs this guy just says shitt to fit his agenda twitter.com/TheaterThreads/status/841280859403620353
Well this aged beautifully 😂
INFRARED 3 years in a row 😂👎
This video is facts, but the CP part is just a lie. Cp played with a stacked clippers team DJ Reddick, Crawford, Blake, and now he plays on Houston. CP is a loser, he hasn’t been good since New Orleans. He’s an overrated flopping complainer.
Terrible Example.
MD Twomp he’s like melo but they love him more
Fans of westbrook are delusional. HAHAHAHAHA.
And u talk about Russ turnovers but u said nothing about his usage rate Russ got the highest usage rate in history
this dude said steph curry is the best defender of 2016. LMFAO
Wamelo ball Naww. He said by the steals logics
NO... he said that if the steals make someone a good defender, Steph would be ttthe best defender of 2016... he was clearly sarcastic...
The fact is that Westbrook is the classic egotistical idiot that makes his team WORSE... he makes everyone else look worse than the actually are... and you will see that if Kanter or Adams for example go to another team... they're good players... but Westbrook's numbers make them seem like mediocre at best...
And Westbrook's defense is just a joke... he has the athleticism to stay in front of anyone in the world but he doesn't even try to contest anything... even Steph Curry at least TRIES to play defense... and Curry clearly doesn't have any athleticism that can compare to Westbrook... Curry is beaten in defense because of lack of physical attributes... Westbrook is beaten because he doesn't even try... so yeah... I would take Curry over the stupid Russel any day of the week.. one has the mentality of a winner the other has the mentality of a ball hogging stat-maker... who would you want on your team?
Nikos Fotidas wow a smart person in the comment section. How rare
Westbrick trash lmfao
Westbrick
Wait my coach told me that big men are supposed to box out and the little guys (guards) should come and get the rebounds now i don't know if its wrong but hey just saying
Russell Westbrook not overrated cuz everyone already knows his flaws
Damn this video aged gracefully
“Ball hog” ball, the thunder display the most boring games in the nba...doesn’t matter though, Westbrook continues to stat build yet lose in playoffs
The reason Steven Adams and the rest of his teammates don't get the rebounds is because they box the other players out so Westbrook can get the rebound and run an instant fast break and it may be considered stat padding but it is what okc has been doing for years with him and Durant.
westbrook was a better defender last season
king brian Westbrook is a trash defender so miss me with that bullshit
Bro I've been saying this all year. The team and coach all season focused on his triple double.
Now its Westbrook fault that the opponent doesn't contest a rebound with him... Lol!! According to this guy, that maybe why Oscar Robinson and Magic Johnson who are also pg's got as many triple doubles as well. Why were they getting so many rebounds they weren't centers?? Westbrook leaves his guy to get the rebounds after they shoot the ball, because that's what your supposed to do... This may explain the thunder being the best rebounding team for the last two season with and w/o Kd!!
CP3 never been to a conference finals let alone an NBA finals! I noticed you didn't talk about harden performance in the 2012 finals... Wonder why? And I still would choose MVP Westbrook!! You act like CP3, Harden, and Lillard have won championship...!! If KD thought he could win a championship on any team without Westbrook, why choose a team that could win one without KD??
If CP3 was playing with Durant and a great supporting cast like Westbrook you think he wouldn't reach the NBA finals??? Seriously???
Durant is the one that dragged Westbrook there... but if you think Westbrook is just as good as Durant then ok... I pass... you just don't know how real basketball is played... the one without 5-6 turnovers in every important game like Westbrook has had...
Westbrook is the epitome of a loser... and he will drag down OKC even more because no star wants to play with such an egomaniac idiot... Durant just had enough of Russel's nonsense and just decide to head out... and OKC will pay the price forever... good job OKC...
The biggest mistake in this franchise's history is not trading Westbrook when they weren't getting along with Durant... Durant is much more low profile and sensible than Westbrook so he didn't demand him getting traded... but OKC should have done it anyway... get another Star in the trade and just let Durant play with someone with an actual brain for a change...
Westbrook has a lot of talent but his mentality and his brain are just sooooo bad... same with Harden... they both make their whole team worse than it is in the process of getting good numbers... CP3 has never done that... CP3 has made an untallented big oaf like DeAndre Jordan a superstar.... he has enhanced Blake Griffin's numbers A LOT... Westbrook would have just kept going on his own and people would have said Blake is not good enough and DeAndre is just a big guy that gets some rebounds because Westbrook would have even tried to steal the rebounds from Jordan...
Tarus Morgan , so you're blaming Harden for the Thunder losing the championship that year? How good did RW play?
Tarus Morgan there is a fucking difference between 6'9 and 6'3 do u fucking expect a 6'9 pg not to get 10 rebounds
Jayden Wilson doesnt change his position he still the point guard
Nikos Fotidas deardere Jordan good
Westbrook has not been the same since that Patrick Beverly injury. He would be better then he is. Ok