True Ogre That was when curry was a rookie lmao. And they didn’t have a good team because the only ones that actually played for most of the season was Corey Maguette and Monta Ellis. And what about in 2013 where curry led the warriors to the same record as Westbrook this year without any all stars? This season has literally proved that Westbrook is overrated. He can only play around a system that revolves him, while curry can play on and off the ball which leads to team success. Oladipo is now a SUPERSTAR that he’s off of the thunder. Domantas Sabonis is now trippling his stats compared to what he had in OKC. Taj Gibson is playing very solid, and so has kanter, and Ilyasova. Prime Westbrook can’t lead a team with Paul George (a superstar) Carmelo Anthony (a 6th man of the year if he played off the bench) Steven Adams (DPOY candidate, best rebounder) André Roberson (who played half the season and is a 1st defense all team player) better than a 24 year old Stephen Curry can lead a team with no all stars
True Ogre 2. Why do you care so much about blocks, dunking, and rebounds, and post game for a point guard? Westbrook’s rebounds come off of seven Adams boxing out. If curry played in the same system Westbrook played in he’d average as many rebounds. In Westbrook’s last season 7 of his rebounds per game were completely uncontested. Curry also lead the league in steals in 2016 so I don’t know why you said he has no steals. The reason curry doesn’t get as many dimes is because they play in a system where he doesn’t constantly have the ball, like the spurs. He’s actually a decent passer, and had a higher assist to turnover ratio than Westbrook, which proves he’s not a bad playmaker. And curry isn’t even the only person to not guard their matchup. He’s actually a decent defender, but would you rather have a decent defender or one of the best on ball defenders covering the scorer? Westbrook is a more capable defender than Curry I admit, but he’s always slacking off on defense. Bballbreakdown made a video on how he’s pretty much the same as James harden when it comes to overall effort. Maybe if Westbrook didn’t run a system that only revolves around him, he’d have more success and play better defense
STATS DONT LIE But how is he able to get the fucking rebound when there was only 1.5 seconds for Murray to catch the ball, shoot and for the ball to travel through the air. And even if it missed it most likely would’ve bounced up in the air. I’m not stupid, I’m an OKC fan and I have to say that earlier in the year when we played the Pistons, the last shot of the game when we were down by 1 and Russ went for a 3 when he was 1-9 from 3 that night. That play and the play against the Nuggets are the most stupid things I’ve seen Russ do since the 2012 finals. I know it was a stupid play, I just don’t see how he could’ve possible got the rebound with the time that was left
STATS DONT LIE Yeah I hear you, that’s where he was supposed to be and he was standing right next to Adams who was obviously guarding the paint from a lob. But Russ wasn’t on the perimeter and Murray got an open shot because Adams was late to contest because he’s a big man. Honestly one of the most painful games I’ve ever watched as a Thunder fan because it was such a dumb mistake.
mzk pride He’d have been putting up numbers close to drummond if he didn’t enthusiastically let russ have all the defensive rebounds enthusiastically. Adams got more offensive boards then defensive boards per game Russ’s last 3 seasons in OKC which is crazy because those are a lot harder to get. He’d have averaged like 13-15 boards a game if you account for all the defensive boards he boxed out for and the let Russ have.
jayvee lol. His mentality will never win him a championship. Last year's excuse was that he had no help. This year he has melo and pg and they still underachieved. Fuck all you westbrick fans. Kd is the superior player and okc had a better chance of winning with him than westbrick.
damn, i feel like this year this fool Russ might realize "hey i gotta change" not being an OKC fan I heard these stats in 2017 and was shocked, but yeah this fool a stat padder. true definition of a good player is one who knows how to cooperate with a team and make one another better.
You are utterly correct there my man... Good for kd to leave this hungry ball hugging useless piece of ........ Better change his name to russel solo.. Haah!!!!
@@austinritter912 right, even though he's supposed to be this amazing distributor, they're always at the bottom of the league in passing, if he's such a distributor why could that be, kobe is 2nd all time in Lakers assists, are you seriously gonna tell me that kobe wasn't a ball hog now? When looking at assists you also have to look at team passes, if your team is at the bottom in passing but you're getting 10 apg, then that shows that you're passing PURELY to get assists for yourself, and not to have proper ball movement, anyone who has every played organized basketball knows what I mean.
damn if only ppl like you paid attention to his historical stats and what they mean in the OVERALL.. Kinda how they see things and why their vote goes the way it does..
Billy Badass chasing assists, rebounds, isn’t historical bruhh, not like Luka, lebron when they get triple doubles its because the team needs it. ACCEPT THE FACTS BRUH. Such a butthurt westbrook fan. Lol
One of the more interesting points that has shown over time, since the vid was made in 2017 is how Westbrook didn't take advantage of the really good teammates he had. Miraculously two of his starters that were traded became all-stars within two seasons of leaving WESTBROOK!!! Sabonis and Oladipo, and Oladipo was in MVP talks one season til he got hurt!! Westbrook's triple double seasons cheapen the stat & were just a mockery of the sport, it was "natural" and fluid within the game like Oscar.
Soooo... he's not an especially accurate shooter, he doesn't control the ball well, he doesn't make his teammates better, and he uses his team to help pad his own stats. Sounds like a really great guy.
How doesn’t he make his teammates better ?? Why are we lying he’s the reason pg had his best year. Russ TO avg is the same as Lebron and magic but he can’t handle the ball???
When I was seeing you promoting your video I was expecting yet another bs clickbait video that was poorly made. You my friend are a star and it's a shame you have less than 100 subs! This video is nothing but fax and honestly deserves more views
He was wrong about secondary assists, westbrook has ranked ahead of harden the last 2 seasons. Basically westbrook gets more secondary assists and generally ranks in the top 10.
@@Unreelme and that's why the thunder are at the bottom of the league in passing, if he was such an excellent passer and distributor, that wouldn't happen
look at the different seasons. Westbrook didn't have the help and durant and harden choked the year they went to the finals and the year they had a good team durant choked without harden.
Here's some other important things to keep in mind about Russ. Russel Westbrook plays some of the worst stay in front defense ever allowing him much more energy on offense just like James Harden does. He purposefully leaves his man wide-open so he can cherry pick rebounds away from his big men. He also gambles horribly for steals just to pad his stats and/or get a flashy dunk. And even if he ends up getting that steal for a break away dunk he has a tendency of bricking them off the back of the iron because he wants to slam the ball with 1 hand as hard as he possibly can instead of laying it up or doing a safer type of dunk. You mentioned his high turnovers, but it's HOW he turns it over that gets me the most. His turnovers are much worse than most other point guards because they are so forced they usually turn into 2 or 3 points on the other end. Some say he would be better as a shooting guard because he simply does not know how to take care of the basketball. The problem with that though is that he isn't a high percentage shooter and prefers shooting off the dribble too much. Lastly, Westbrook's shot choices are probably the worst I have ever seen in my life. He will pull up for 3 in a guys face with 14-18 seconds left on the shot clock even during crunch time and non 2 for 1 situations. He doesn't even look to see if his big men are ready for rebounds before hand. He's often even too fast for his own good to hit easy shots. He loves flying into the lane, but misses wide open layups like crazy because he can't ever learn to pump the brakes. His flops are very over-exaggerated too, which ends up making him take an even harder shot and not getting a call on top of it. It's honestly sad seeing such failed potential... I originally thought his selfish play-style was just a young faze, but I was completely wrong. Apparently he does not want to become a mature basketball player that's truly respected. He only cares about himself and not the fundamentals of winning efficiently as a team.
Dis Guy! but in the end he could win 5 rings with his team at least he is a winner and not a stats padder. he dont turn the ball over too much. he sometimes throw a bad contested shot but he knows how to make it and his team still won
He wasted Oladipo's talent. They could have been a good duo but Russel Westbrook is a selfish brat. Look at Oladipo's effeciency and performance without Russel, he manage to carry the pacers into the playoffs and force a game 7 against Lebron James and the Cavs. Even this year, with Carmelo and PG13, they can't share the ball well and go deep in the playoffs.
His effiency was better when he was with Russ on the floor Their playstyles never messed together for the fact that are both slashing guards And oladipo was incredibly inconsistent as well
@@thedangerwich5476 Making the playoffs and getting an almost guaranteed 1st round exit is one of the worst spot to be, it's called "No man's land" = not bad enough to tank and get good picks and not good enough to make a deep postseason run that gets you respect and leverage for potential stars to come to your franchise
OKC Thunder: 50%eFG Westboork: 47%eFG Shooting worse than his team lmao. He clearly should stop shooting so much and dragging his own team's efficiency down.
Here's some common sense information for you casual basketball fans. The more you shoot the lower your percentage is. What's easier? Going 5/10 or going 1/2? Obviously 1/2. And also. Most of his team was inside bigs. News flash. They should be in th 50s and 60s.
Max Kleinman ummmm? Kanter Adams and Gibson . But Gibson and Kanter still werent Always in the post. Oladipo Payne singler grant and dont forget the 3 Pt Master Andre Roberson. They were Always just standing on the Line so Westbrook can give the ball to them.
Gr8 video n analysis...now we wait for the ESPN 30 for 30 n 5 yrs where his teammates n coaches reveal how upper mgmt pressured them into allowing this undisciplined madness so they wouldn't lose another NBA superstar
You've earned yourself a follower, very clean editing, educational content and throughly explaining things in case some viewers might not understand. You're gonna rise, I predict it, keep up the good work!
3:17 That's the problem with Westbrook--two guys completely undefended on the 3-point line, wide open, and he is just looking for his points. It's like no one ever told him basketball is a team-sport.
I have no earthly idea how I’ve never come across your channel before?!? What RUclips should be suggesting they don’t, that being said “subbed!” Thank you bro.
The truth about Russell Westbrook's triple doubles is this: they mean nothing, except for serving as an indication of an unbalanced team and/or a low bball IQ, and/or egotistical, and/or tunnel-vision-under-pressure player.
@@dumisatonyjohnson8145 Robertson because like Rick Barry said from the quote in the video, he got them during the natural course of a basketball game.
That's what really P.O'd me was how Adams got robbed playing with Russ. Adams literally was one of the best centers in the game. But chose to be a soldier to help Russ's ego. I was really happy for him going to MEM
Boxing out and out hustling is not a crime or an illegal play, call it stat padding or not, but by giving Westbrook the ball rather than him grabbing it himself is slower, and makes Westbrook, one of the best transition players in the league have to give up the transition for halfcourt basketball. It's all strategy and it worked. Stop hating and discrediting westbrook like he didn't achieve what no other player has ever done. Every player will psd their stats if they were close enough to a triple double, that's just the fact of it, so stop bullshitting yourselves and watch greatness
@@miyagifatghost2684 Boxing out and out hustling is not a crime or an illegal play, call it stat padding or not, but by giving Westbrook the ball rather than him grabbing it himself is slower, and makes Westbrook, one of the best transition players in the league have to give up the transition for halfcourt basketball. It's all strategy and it worked. Stop hating and discrediting westbrook like he didn't achieve what no other player has ever done. Every player will psd their stats if they were close enough to a triple double, that's just the fact of it, so stop bullshitting yourselves and watch greatness
@@miyagifatghost2684tubby here thinks he knows ball but can’t even talk basketball 😂😂😂 everyone of your comments hold no real weight no real basketball knowledge or discussion just opinions
Believe or not I was a hooper hooper. I would till this day drop you off All Jumpers. And that's me being fair if I go downhill on you. You don't Exist AT ALL SIR!! If I put you in The BLOCK 😂 Grew up in Texas we played all sports. I get a kick outta guys like you underestimating. I can't do full no more but I'd run You TODAY in the half. Then Box you and you'd be quiet after that
the only player i've seen in NBA history with his height an excellent rebounder can read where the ball go after opponent shoot...he can execute proper timing and better technique than other taller players,just observe him but basket ball is a team game....a unique player maybe he's Genius on this game,he needs backcourt shooters 2 and 3,experience good defender 4 n 5 and better depth their team will always in Championship level
Thank you! You are so right! For those of us who enjoy watching unselfish ball movement and great TEAM play, Russell Westbrook's game is so overrated 😩... I see right through the inflated stats.
Hey Joseph! Nice to see I'm not alone. I live in OKC so I have to hear the daily Russ worship. He doesn't make ANYONE around him BETTER. Never has and never will.
Joseph Perez - What position and role would Westbrook play if he were on most other NBA teams ?, and is he really that talented , or just a guy that is given the green light to take a bunch of shots ??.
Totally agree with this. That is why sometimes when some analysts predominantly just refer to stats it’s not enough or could be misleading. Consider other factors that do not show on the stat sheet. Or just simply watching so many games for decades you will have a better grip of the comparisons
He talks about fg% in comparison to Westbrook's, as if Steven Adams sabonis, Andre, and most of the bench didn't shoot literally at the rim the whole season. Which would mean the their percentages are inflated compared to where Westbrook shoots from all around the court and lowers his efficiency just like every player in the league smh, people are so boneheaded I can't even believe they survived and lived their lives for this long. It's common sense
great video! i love that you support everything you said with true facts!! thats how it's suppose to be done! good job! keep doing videos like this, you got a new subscriber! :)
Aww man broski you got a ton of Westbrook fans on suicide watch. Seeing that this video was put together 10 months ago, I'm sure we have had several casualties since then.
@@TH-cx2yx are u ok are u seriously gonna dismiss a triple double with no bodies. What has gone wrong with ppl . Bro get some help stop this foolishness only 2 players have averaged a triple double once only one has done it 3 x and that's Russell westbrook. I feel bad for russ hes a walking idk wtf he Is .
Your research proves what my eyes tell me when I see RW play. Gifted athlete that will be remembered for all time by putting up unthinkable numbers [remind you of anyone?] He will be regarded as the best player to never win a c'hip. That being said, I want him no where near my team.
Jokic has the real triple doubles and is not forced and efficient. Westbrook triple double is forced and not very efficient and doesn't translate to winning hence they were eliminated by Damian Lillard
Very good analysis. Russ Westbrook is so boostful. He should see this report. Because he is thinking his mvp award was deserving. How many OKC players left OKC and become great and mvps? OKC management should release westbrook and let us find out if some teams will be eager to welcome him.
I think OKC is rewarding him for staying and is afraid of him leaving. So far the experimenting hasn't translated into success. You cannot develop your younger players with this type of offense. If this keeps up, the coach will be gone.
The worst revelation about this video is that Russell Wilson has a team that can ball but he's such a shot-jacker he prevents himself from getting a ring
Man I didn't even need stats to know this. Russell westbrook fans are people with low basketball iq, who doesn't know that when you're on the PROFESSIONAL level, its about playing smart, not hard. And westbrook just exudes the kinda vibe of a dude who doesn't think too much but plays his heart out. Basically high physical talent, low IQ.
Dis i say how good and professional you are.You have awsome basketball knowlage,inteligence and backed by thouragh statistic.You should have more subscribers than ESPN....Wish you luck
@@5280AcoGsHis teammates couldn't score worth a damn but they were VERY good at defending and rebounding, giving Iverson a lot of extra scoring opportunities
Great video!! It's absolutely unfortunate that he is praised for averaging a triple-double. In no way shape or form should this level of selfishness be praised or awarded. All Russell Westbrook cares about is Russell Westbrook and his stats that is it. Absolutely disgusting. What a disgrace to the game of basketball.
I would strongly suggest checking over your stats. you make a video basically dissing Russell Westbrook yet some of the stats that you use to say he's not great just aren't right. I noticed this because being a long-time Pistons fan you threw up a stat that had Zeke in it. it was the players who averaged over 11 assists in a season. You had Zeke's 84-85 season at 11.2 per game. that's wrong my friend. he averaged 13.9 per game. may not seem like a big deal but when you make a video predicated on stats you really should make sure all your stats are on point. plus it's easy to go back on a player after the fact look at a stat sheet and say they were bad or good only based on that. The game is measured on much more than that. That's the reason why you will see some players who have been in the league for years yet on paper don't seem great. they bring something that a stat sheet doesn't show.
His stats he used were to make him sound bad. Literally useless stats that make no sense why are we comparing Russ’s FG% to a fucking 9th man who can’t get 5 ppg ? This video is crazy
last year OKC did't space the floor well and westbrook plays his best basketball when he drives to basket.He has been more efficent from the field this season ,because he had shooters.
Honestly. I feel bad, Harden got robbed big time that year because of all the hype Russ got for breaking Big O’s record. But everybody that knows and watched understands that Russ obviously manufactured his stats, and couldn’t contribute to wins.
@@Poopopotamusgaminghow couldn’t it when his win percentage is 70% when he gets a triple double lying to your self will not help 😂😂😂 and lying in the comment like u watch the season is crazy cuz he was the most clutch and unstoppable player that year. Reason why dwayed said that’s the greatest season ever dick head
this shit is fucking hilarious. Now all you have to do is throw in the shitty playoffs he just had again. And Damien Lillard torched his ass. So why do the tunder pay westbrook 200 million dollars to led there team to the first round, just to get bounced. When you can get the far if not further with paul George. Trade westbrook now. Send him to the worst team in the league. He can then stat pad all he wants and his team will always lose.
Franklyn Maldonado LeBron stats pad but nothing like westbrook. I never understood why coaches believe lebron has to play pg with another actual pg on the floor. With that said lebron is just a much better passer than westbrook. And even though lebron can have a shaky jumper, he can score so god damn easy doing other stuff like through transitions, put backs and ally oops. Lebron can drop 20pts without having to iso.
BeefPapa Correction. His team is better when he has the ball and that's why he does* Not bc he can't play off it. If his team was better and it allowed him to be off the ball more then he'd do it sure.
Cha Boiiiii He has never done it, except for a brief period in Miami in 2011 and it just didn't work for him. He's great with the ball. That's where you get the most out of him. No reason to change that.
So basically he’s a point guard version of Lebron James (has to have the ball in his hand & offense run through him in order to be effective as well as hindering stars around him). I love his mentality & work ethic though. It’s to be greatly admired
Task Don Westbrook does have a similar strength & motor as Lebron. His game thrives on drivening & kicking the ball out just like LBJ’s. That’s why they wouldn’t be able to play together. It would be a “my turn, your turn” offense. Plus Lebron isn’t the On-ball defender he used to be. At best, now, he’ll get chase down blocks but can’t stay in front of a lot of guys
Chris John un no westbrook is nothing close to Lebron. For one Lebron's field goal percentage is around 10% higher than westbrook. and lebron is one of the best passers in nba history. there are some players who dominate the ball bc it gives them the best chance of winning lebron harden etc.
2011-2012, rekt by shane battier and mike miller in the Finals LOL. You guys had harden, westbrook and durant. And Ibaka. And Reggie Jackson, and Thabo and Perkins.
After watching this video, I have to say ... Lebron is the true MVP. Most VALUABLE player award. But I will argue one thing, stats don't tell the whole story. They're only a part of the sport. When you watch the Thunder play, you can see a lot more to the story than stats. Russ almost has to play this way for the team to even function. Lol
They will not give lebron the mvp anymore, the media cares too much about the story rather than who is really the most valuable player and for good reason. The only reason russ got the mvp because it was something that was never done before by a point guard. So it became a milestone for the league.
Bo Lo No he does not. PPG idk about APG but he shares ball distributing duty with CP3. He takes more outside shots and naturally he doesnt lead in RPG because he is a fucking guard, natural guard. Plus Harden has a way better team record.
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True Ogre That was when curry was a rookie lmao. And they didn’t have a good team because the only ones that actually played for most of the season was Corey Maguette and Monta Ellis. And what about in 2013 where curry led the warriors to the same record as Westbrook this year without any all stars? This season has literally proved that Westbrook is overrated. He can only play around a system that revolves him, while curry can play on and off the ball which leads to team success. Oladipo is now a SUPERSTAR that he’s off of the thunder. Domantas Sabonis is now trippling his stats compared to what he had in OKC. Taj Gibson is playing very solid, and so has kanter, and Ilyasova. Prime Westbrook can’t lead a team with Paul George (a superstar) Carmelo Anthony (a 6th man of the year if he played off the bench) Steven Adams (DPOY candidate, best rebounder) André Roberson (who played half the season and is a 1st defense all team player) better than a 24 year old Stephen Curry can lead a team with no all stars
True Ogre 2. Why do you care so much about blocks, dunking, and rebounds, and post game for a point guard? Westbrook’s rebounds come off of seven Adams boxing out. If curry played in the same system Westbrook played in he’d average as many rebounds. In Westbrook’s last season 7 of his rebounds per game were completely uncontested. Curry also lead the league in steals in 2016 so I don’t know why you said he has no steals. The reason curry doesn’t get as many dimes is because they play in a system where he doesn’t constantly have the ball, like the spurs. He’s actually a decent passer, and had a higher assist to turnover ratio than Westbrook, which proves he’s not a bad playmaker. And curry isn’t even the only person to not guard their matchup. He’s actually a decent defender, but would you rather have a decent defender or one of the best on ball defenders covering the scorer? Westbrook is a more capable defender than Curry I admit, but he’s always slacking off on defense. Bballbreakdown made a video on how he’s pretty much the same as James harden when it comes to overall effort. Maybe if Westbrook didn’t run a system that only revolves around him, he’d have more success and play better defense
Please do another for this year.
Westbrook have 2 seasons triple double . He made you shut your mouth or you need a third one 😘
yan schwab No he has failed with Paul George, which would have been the perfect sidekick.
That proves that Westbrook doesn't make anyone better
so he's a stats padder
STATS DONT LIE but there was like 1.5 seconds left on the clock, how is he gonna get a rebound if there is only 1.5 seconds left you brainless pleb
STATS DONT LIE But how is he able to get the fucking rebound when there was only 1.5 seconds for Murray to catch the ball, shoot and for the ball to travel through the air. And even if it missed it most likely would’ve bounced up in the air. I’m not stupid, I’m an OKC fan and I have to say that earlier in the year when we played the Pistons, the last shot of the game when we were down by 1 and Russ went for a 3 when he was 1-9 from 3 that night. That play and the play against the Nuggets are the most stupid things I’ve seen Russ do since the 2012 finals. I know it was a stupid play, I just don’t see how he could’ve possible got the rebound with the time that was left
STATS DONT LIE Yeah I hear you, that’s where he was supposed to be and he was standing right next to Adams who was obviously guarding the paint from a lob. But Russ wasn’t on the perimeter and Murray got an open shot because Adams was late to contest because he’s a big man. Honestly one of the most painful games I’ve ever watched as a Thunder fan because it was such a dumb mistake.
STATS DONT LIE he was protecting the rim as his teammate was down. He was one step away from blocking the shot anyway
He invented the new stat. Steal-rebound. A rebound stolen from team mates.
Steven Adams would be a beast if he's with a system oriented team like Boston, Utah, Spurs, GSW. Too bad he's stuck with a ninja turtle
Yup, Adams is a good player and would florish somewhere else
I'd be so happy if he brought his talent to Utah.
lol dude. I thought I was the only one who thought he looked like a turtle.
he'd be so fucking godly. Steve Adam's is straight up one of the most skilled centers in the league.
mzk pride He’d have been putting up numbers close to drummond if he didn’t enthusiastically let russ have all the defensive rebounds enthusiastically. Adams got more offensive boards then defensive boards per game Russ’s last 3 seasons in OKC which is crazy because those are a lot harder to get. He’d have averaged like 13-15 boards a game if you account for all the defensive boards he boxed out for and the let Russ have.
Lmao look at how his teammates are throwing their hands up in the air every time like they made a mistake for going after the rebound
Thats what I disliked the most
The westbrick fanboys do not want to see this video.
No I don't
not really , even most westbrook fans knows most of this. we like him because of his explosiveness and his mentality
def sa thanks for the warning. IM OUTTA HERE
jayvee lol. His mentality will never win him a championship. Last year's excuse was that he had no help. This year he has melo and pg and they still underachieved. Fuck all you westbrick fans. Kd is the superior player and okc had a better chance of winning with him than westbrick.
Hi I’m right here
This aged well, who's here in 2019?
damn, i feel like this year this fool Russ might realize "hey i gotta change"
not being an OKC fan I heard these stats in 2017 and was shocked, but yeah this fool a stat padder.
true definition of a good player is one who knows how to cooperate with a team and make one another better.
2021 and it's still the same shit.
Here in 2024 he never changed
Westbrook fan boys will not wanna hear this ... Basically proves why KD left
You are utterly correct there my man... Good for kd to leave this hungry ball hugging useless piece of ........ Better change his name to russel solo.. Haah!!!!
He doesn't ballhog
leor nemrac lmao Solo
000whitefang kd left cuz he got outplayed by klay kd was equally as bad they both lost 4 games in a row
@@austinritter912 right, even though he's supposed to be this amazing distributor, they're always at the bottom of the league in passing, if he's such a distributor why could that be, kobe is 2nd all time in Lakers assists, are you seriously gonna tell me that kobe wasn't a ball hog now? When looking at assists you also have to look at team passes, if your team is at the bottom in passing but you're getting 10 apg, then that shows that you're passing PURELY to get assists for yourself, and not to have proper ball movement, anyone who has every played organized basketball knows what I mean.
damn if only mvp voters would watch this
damn if only ppl like you paid attention to his historical stats and what they mean in the OVERALL.. Kinda how they see things and why their vote goes the way it does..
Billy Badass chasing assists, rebounds, isn’t historical bruhh, not like Luka, lebron when they get triple doubles its because the team needs it. ACCEPT THE FACTS BRUH. Such a butthurt westbrook fan. Lol
@@stay_me703 he doesnt chases assists
Billy Badass yeah that went right over your head didn’t it
red sus when he’s running low on them he does
Dang, Curry's 3PT% (45.4%) is essentially equal to Westbrook's 2PT% (45.9%)
Curry 3pt is higher than Westbrook’s field goal percentage period
Curry isn't really a 2pt scorer. He doesn't shoot mid ranger.
@@younglove3362yes, but if you’re a 2 point scorer your percentage should be higher than a 3 point shooter.
@@shazaalala28
Which 2pt shot are you referring to?
One of the more interesting points that has shown over time, since the vid was made in 2017 is how Westbrook didn't take advantage of the really good teammates he had. Miraculously two of his starters that were traded became all-stars within two seasons of leaving WESTBROOK!!! Sabonis and Oladipo, and Oladipo was in MVP talks one season til he got hurt!! Westbrook's triple double seasons cheapen the stat & were just a mockery of the sport, it was "natural" and fluid within the game like Oscar.
Oladipo wasnt good until he left because of the workouts the he did with russ
Soooo... he's not an especially accurate shooter, he doesn't control the ball well, he doesn't make his teammates better, and he uses his team to help pad his own stats.
Sounds like a really great guy.
most overrated player in NBA history by a mile, him getting an MVP was the biggest joke in NBA history
How doesn’t he make his teammates better ?? Why are we lying he’s the reason pg had his best year. Russ TO avg is the same as Lebron and magic but he can’t handle the ball???
Only noobs get amazed at 'triple doubles' It's all about efficiency..
there are good tripple doubles and bad ones.. most often they're bad.. like westbrick's whole career haha
When I was seeing you promoting your video I was expecting yet another bs clickbait video that was poorly made. You my friend are a star and it's a shame you have less than 100 subs! This video is nothing but fax and honestly deserves more views
You do an amazing job of breaking down basketball! I'm subbing.
ShapsTV just found this guy today and have only seen two videos, but if the others are as good, I'll put him up there with bballbreakdown 🏀❤
Joseph Perez he's more of the statistical 🐐, where as bball breakdown is more of the play by play 🐐
Nothing but facts? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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This video articulates everything I have thought but haven't been able to put in words all that well. very well done
Damn bro, you brought all type of stats and facts. Awesome Video.
He was wrong about secondary assists, westbrook has ranked ahead of harden the last 2 seasons. Basically westbrook gets more secondary assists and generally ranks in the top 10.
it was proven in the 2018 season that he really is a stats hog
@@Unreelme and that's why the thunder are at the bottom of the league in passing, if he was such an excellent passer and distributor, that wouldn't happen
stats.nba.com/players/passing/?sort=SECONDARY_AST&dir=1&Season=2017-18&SeasonType=Regular%20Season
look at the different seasons. Westbrook didn't have the help and durant and harden choked the year they went to the finals and the year they had a good team durant choked without harden.
Wow this definitely opened my eyes. Most factual and entertaining video there is about stats. Great job and keep it up!
Here's some other important things to keep in mind about Russ.
Russel Westbrook plays some of the worst stay in front defense ever allowing him much more energy on offense just like James Harden does. He purposefully leaves his man wide-open so he can cherry pick rebounds away from his big men. He also gambles horribly for steals just to pad his stats and/or get a flashy dunk. And even if he ends up getting that steal for a break away dunk he has a tendency of bricking them off the back of the iron because he wants to slam the ball with 1 hand as hard as he possibly can instead of laying it up or doing a safer type of dunk.
You mentioned his high turnovers, but it's HOW he turns it over that gets me the most. His turnovers are much worse than most other point guards because they are so forced they usually turn into 2 or 3 points on the other end. Some say he would be better as a shooting guard because he simply does not know how to take care of the basketball. The problem with that though is that he isn't a high percentage shooter and prefers shooting off the dribble too much.
Lastly, Westbrook's shot choices are probably the worst I have ever seen in my life. He will pull up for 3 in a guys face with 14-18 seconds left on the shot clock even during crunch time and non 2 for 1 situations. He doesn't even look to see if his big men are ready for rebounds before hand. He's often even too fast for his own good to hit easy shots. He loves flying into the lane, but misses wide open layups like crazy because he can't ever learn to pump the brakes. His flops are very over-exaggerated too, which ends up making him take an even harder shot and not getting a call on top of it.
It's honestly sad seeing such failed potential... I originally thought his selfish play-style was just a young faze, but I was completely wrong. Apparently he does not want to become a mature basketball player that's truly respected. He only cares about himself and not the fundamentals of winning efficiently as a team.
michael jordan
His play style hurts his team mate's and often costs him and his team a win just for the sake of the triple double.
Dis Guy! but in the end he could win 5 rings with his team at least he is a winner and not a stats padder. he dont turn the ball over too much. he sometimes throw a bad contested shot but he knows how to make it and his team still won
michael jordan nigga who are you 😂😂😂😂😂😂
theo siahaan bruh what?
michael jordan the GOAT has spoken.
Over 5 turnovers a game to get his 10 assists says it all.
What u expect when you have the ball 56% of the time ? Think are u dumb?
He wasted Oladipo's talent. They could have been a good duo but Russel Westbrook is a selfish brat. Look at Oladipo's effeciency and performance without Russel, he manage to carry the pacers into the playoffs and force a game 7 against Lebron James and the Cavs. Even this year, with Carmelo and PG13, they can't share the ball well and go deep in the playoffs.
His effiency was better when he was with Russ on the floor Their playstyles never messed together for the fact that are both slashing guards And oladipo was incredibly inconsistent as well
Not only dipo also sabonis, jeremy grant
He wasted pg and melo when he was still an allstar like dude is a bum
No watch andy hoop and austin swift video on it he was good just not used to the system.
Not true he admitted he did help out but he was not in basketball shape.
April of 2019, video is still relevant to this day. Stat padding doesn't lead to W's
Wizards made the playoffs. Nyah nyah
@@thedangerwich5476 since when just making the Playoffs is a huge win? Lol.
@@thedangerwich5476 Making the playoffs and getting an almost guaranteed 1st round exit is one of the worst spot to be, it's called "No man's land" = not bad enough to tank and get good picks and not good enough to make a deep postseason run that gets you respect and leverage for potential stars to come to your franchise
this is further proof that James Harden got robbed of MVP
OKC Thunder: 50%eFG
Westboork: 47%eFG
Shooting worse than his team lmao. He clearly should stop shooting so much and dragging his own team's efficiency down.
k Idontknow don’t forget
MVP
Wally Allen that was not desrved tbh
Here's some common sense information for you casual basketball fans. The more you shoot the lower your percentage is. What's easier? Going 5/10 or going 1/2? Obviously 1/2. And also. Most of his team was inside bigs. News flash. They should be in th 50s and 60s.
Max Kleinman ummmm? Kanter Adams and Gibson . But Gibson and Kanter still werent Always in the post. Oladipo Payne singler grant and dont forget the 3 Pt Master Andre Roberson. They were Always just standing on the Line so Westbrook can give the ball to them.
Rx Geez bwahahaha you're gonna brag about his mvp trophy when he got elimjnated in the first round for two straight years? Bwahahahaha
Westbrook's ball IQ is one of the lowest in the NBA.
No fundamentals or team play forget efficiency and defense a great playground player.
Who is a 9x all star never heard if a playground player w 9 all star appearances
Gr8 video n analysis...now we wait for the ESPN 30 for 30 n 5 yrs where his teammates n coaches reveal how upper mgmt pressured them into allowing this undisciplined madness so they wouldn't lose another NBA superstar
glad i clicked. you gained a new sub.
Cook'n W/ Curry Azs
That’s why Durant left Westbrook is a selfish player who will never win a championship
Durant said that Russ was not the problem in his tweets
@Robert Horry KD said it himself go check his Burner account
he's literally contesting rebounds with his own center. Holy shit
Watching this 2 years later and not a lot has changed. Another 1st round playoff exit.
Aged like fine wine. Still very relevant after 4 years.
You've earned yourself a follower, very clean editing, educational content and throughly explaining things in case some viewers might not understand. You're gonna rise, I predict it, keep up the good work!
3:17 That's the problem with Westbrook--two guys completely undefended on the 3-point line, wide open, and he is just looking for his points. It's like no one ever told him basketball is a team-sport.
I don't even watch basketball, I just love the way you make your videos and wish someone would do this for hockey.
His stats are false and he paints them in bad pictures a lot of shit Russ does other great do but it’s Russ so it’s bad right now
he's like everyone who plays 2k my career, but in real life hahaha. He;s still fun to watch though
I have no earthly idea how I’ve never come across your channel before?!? What RUclips should be suggesting they don’t, that being said “subbed!” Thank you bro.
The truth about Russell Westbrook's triple doubles is this: they mean nothing, except for serving as an indication of an unbalanced team and/or a low bball IQ, and/or egotistical, and/or tunnel-vision-under-pressure player.
true
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Which triple double season is better
Oscar Robertson (61-62 season)
Or
Westbrook (2017 season)
@@dumisatonyjohnson8145 Robertson because like Rick Barry said from the quote in the video, he got them during the natural course of a basketball game.
@@Vibe1610 as well as with an overinflated pace at the time.
@@adamsenior4774 correct, but oscar actually grabbed CONTESTED REBOUNDS not wide open SPOONFED rebounds you casual🤣
Harden deserved MVP that year. I can’t believe people rewarded the guy that would yank uncontested defensive rebounds out of Steven Adam’s hands.
That's what really P.O'd me was how Adams got robbed playing with Russ. Adams literally was one of the best centers in the game. But chose to be a soldier to help Russ's ego. I was really happy for him going to MEM
Boxing out and out hustling is not a crime or an illegal play, call it stat padding or not, but by giving Westbrook the ball rather than him grabbing it himself is slower, and makes Westbrook, one of the best transition players in the league have to give up the transition for halfcourt basketball. It's all strategy and it worked.
Stop hating and discrediting westbrook like he didn't achieve what no other player has ever done. Every player will psd their stats if they were close enough to a triple double, that's just the fact of it, so stop bullshitting yourselves and watch greatness
@@miyagifatghost2684 Boxing out and out hustling is not a crime or an illegal play, call it stat padding or not, but by giving Westbrook the ball rather than him grabbing it himself is slower, and makes Westbrook, one of the best transition players in the league have to give up the transition for halfcourt basketball. It's all strategy and it worked.
Stop hating and discrediting westbrook like he didn't achieve what no other player has ever done. Every player will psd their stats if they were close enough to a triple double, that's just the fact of it, so stop bullshitting yourselves and watch greatness
@@miyagifatghost2684tubby here thinks he knows ball but can’t even talk basketball 😂😂😂 everyone of your comments hold no real weight no real basketball knowledge or discussion just opinions
Believe or not I was a hooper hooper. I would till this day drop you off All Jumpers. And that's me being fair if I go downhill on you. You don't Exist AT ALL SIR!! If I put you in The BLOCK 😂 Grew up in Texas we played all sports. I get a kick outta guys like you underestimating. I can't do full no more but I'd run You TODAY in the half. Then Box you and you'd be quiet after that
the only player i've seen in NBA history with his height an excellent rebounder can read where the ball go after opponent shoot...he can execute proper timing and better technique than other taller players,just observe him but basket ball is a team game....a unique player maybe he's Genius on this game,he needs backcourt shooters 2 and 3,experience good defender 4 n 5 and better depth their team will always in Championship level
Got that in Houston he had almost all shooters in the lineup
4 years later, this video is still relevant
Nope
@@thedangerwich5476 still relevant. Westbrick just went 5-15fg with 7turnovers against Hornets. 1-13fg and 6 turnovers against Blazers before that 😂
@@thedangerwich5476 Westbrook is trash. Let him stay at Lakers.
Anyone who followed that season knows those numbers were in fact manufactured, but man no one can put it in words better than you do. Outstanding job
Thank you! You are so right! For those of us who enjoy watching unselfish ball movement and great TEAM play, Russell Westbrook's game is so overrated 😩... I see right through the inflated stats.
Hey Joseph! Nice to see I'm not alone. I live in OKC so I have to hear the daily Russ worship. He doesn't make ANYONE around him BETTER. Never has and never will.
Joseph Perez - What position and role would Westbrook play if he were on most other NBA teams ?, and is he really that talented , or just a guy that is given the green light to take a bunch of shots ??.
@@WISHBONEL7 he happens to be the latter. You couldn't put him at shooting guard, he's not good off ball AT ALL.
Tropic Mix - Wow !!, so how do you think he would he have turned out if he had went to most other teams ? .
@@WISHBONEL7 well from last season we know the answer to your question is
Why is the background music so addictive
Totally agree with this. That is why sometimes when some analysts predominantly just refer to stats it’s not enough or could be misleading. Consider other factors that do not show on the stat sheet. Or just simply watching so many games for decades you will have a better grip of the comparisons
He talks about fg% in comparison to Westbrook's, as if Steven Adams sabonis, Andre, and most of the bench didn't shoot literally at the rim the whole season. Which would mean the their percentages are inflated compared to where Westbrook shoots from all around the court and lowers his efficiency just like every player in the league smh, people are so boneheaded I can't even believe they survived and lived their lives for this long. It's common sense
great video! i love that you support everything you said with true facts!! thats how it's suppose to be done! good job! keep doing videos like this, you got a new subscriber! :)
Aww man broski you got a ton of Westbrook fans on suicide watch. Seeing that this video was put together 10 months ago, I'm sure we have had several casualties since then.
Curry's mvp year was better than russ
laker fan here
it was miles better
30 5 6 over 31 10 10 hell no that's a triple double
@@letstalk140 steph shot 45 percent from 3. Russ shot 42 percent from the field. case closed
@@TH-cx2yx are u ok are u seriously gonna dismiss a triple double with no bodies. What has gone wrong with ppl .
Bro get some help stop this foolishness only 2 players have averaged a triple double once only one has done it 3 x and that's Russell westbrook. I feel bad for russ hes a walking idk wtf he Is .
@@letstalk140 did you not watch the fucking video?
Your research proves what my eyes tell me when I see RW play.
Gifted athlete that will be remembered for all time by putting up unthinkable numbers [remind you of anyone?]
He will be regarded as the best player to never win a c'hip.
That being said, I want him no where near my team.
lol
There are MUCH better players than Russ who never won a title.
“Best player to never win a chip?” Get out of here!
@@1RadicalDreamer yea not even close lmao
Video aged liked *Fine Wine* 3teams later still same story!!
😂😂😂
This accumulation of stats is so good, I actually subscribed. Excellent job.
Jokic has the real triple doubles and is not forced and efficient. Westbrook triple double is forced and not very efficient and doesn't translate to winning hence they were eliminated by Damian Lillard
Very good analysis. Russ Westbrook is so boostful. He should see this report. Because he is thinking his mvp award was deserving. How many OKC players left OKC and become great and mvps? OKC management should release westbrook and let us find out if some teams will be eager to welcome him.
Amazing analysis. Even more relevant after the 2017-18 season
@VY MaJoris Even more so after this series ended last night in dramatic, and epic fashion.
Amazing video! I could go on and on about how many great points you made in this video. Keep it up bro.
wow this was actually a good video
I think OKC is rewarding him for staying and is afraid of him leaving. So far the experimenting hasn't translated into success. You cannot develop your younger players with this type of offense. If this keeps up, the coach will be gone.
Looking 4 years later people are starting to realize how bad this guy is
The worst revelation about this video is that Russell Wilson has a team that can ball but he's such a shot-jacker he prevents himself from getting a ring
Man I didn't even need stats to know this. Russell westbrook fans are people with low basketball iq, who doesn't know that when you're on the PROFESSIONAL level, its about playing smart, not hard. And westbrook just exudes the kinda vibe of a dude who doesn't think too much but plays his heart out. Basically high physical talent, low IQ.
THIS.
by far the best and most accurate comment ive ever read in my life. literally casuals like westbrook💀
Has a tendency to leave his man on defense to get a rebounds.
One word for Westbrick. OVERRATED!
Dis i say how good and professional you are.You have awsome basketball knowlage,inteligence and backed by thouragh statistic.You should have more subscribers than ESPN....Wish you luck
I think youtubers and the media are very similar
Extremely well made video. Very refreshing.
There videos are on point my man. Why are You hiding how many subs You have?
Awesome edit, awesome job, awesome video, my boy!
Well this video age well now people are starting to see through his triple doubles and how bad his shooting percentage is smh Russ
It about time
This video has aged so well.
Damn, Iverson shot less than 40% from the field in 00-01? That's crazy low
The only thing that saved him is how often he got to the line
@@5280AcoGsHis teammates couldn't score worth a damn but they were VERY good at defending and rebounding, giving Iverson a lot of extra scoring opportunities
@@xaviervega468 you also gotta remember that ai was playing in the best defensive era ever while only being 5'10 and 165 pounds.
Automatically subscribed... awesome content bro keep grinding💯💯
Wya boss we need u
I am subscribing to this channel. Thanks to this scrutiny. :P
Great video!! It's absolutely unfortunate that he is praised for averaging a triple-double. In no way shape or form should this level of selfishness be praised or awarded. All Russell Westbrook cares about is Russell Westbrook and his stats that is it. Absolutely disgusting. What a disgrace to the game of basketball.
Hes not celebrated enough he broke a record in 2017 that was set 52 yrs ago and we say hes overrated. And he done again and again
@@letstalk140 because he is overrated. This video just explained how he gets his triple doubles and why they aren’t impressive
Finally Thank you bro I Been saying this for a while and nobody ever gets it
Surprisingly good vid, keep it up
At 0:59, in the bottom left screen, is that JR Smith dressed as a Warriors fan in the stands?
I would strongly suggest checking over your stats. you make a video basically dissing Russell Westbrook yet some of the stats that you use to say he's not great just aren't right. I noticed this because being a long-time Pistons fan you threw up a stat that had Zeke in it. it was the players who averaged over 11 assists in a season. You had Zeke's 84-85 season at 11.2 per game. that's wrong my friend. he averaged 13.9 per game. may not seem like a big deal but when you make a video predicated on stats you really should make sure all your stats are on point. plus it's easy to go back on a player after the fact look at a stat sheet and say they were bad or good only based on that. The game is measured on much more than that. That's the reason why you will see some players who have been in the league for years yet on paper don't seem great. they bring something that a stat sheet doesn't show.
russ sucks my guy. just let it go man
His stats he used were to make him sound bad. Literally useless stats that make no sense why are we comparing Russ’s FG% to a fucking 9th man who can’t get 5 ppg ? This video is crazy
The Westbrook haters are eating this video 📹 up.
😆 🤣 😂
Lol I didn't know there was a player named World B. Free. Is he Metta World Peace's dad?
Excellent stats to back up this video. Well done.
Can't argue with facts
last year OKC did't space the floor well and westbrook plays his best basketball when he drives to basket.He has been more efficent from the field this season ,because he had shooters.
Do a video about whether Paul George is right about Dame's game winner being a bad shot.
Top basketball channel I’ve seen
Most overrated MVP season ever and the most overrated player ever
Honestly. I feel bad, Harden got robbed big time that year because of all the hype Russ got for breaking Big O’s record. But everybody that knows and watched understands that Russ obviously manufactured his stats, and couldn’t contribute to wins.
@@Poopopotamusgaminghow couldn’t it when his win percentage is 70% when he gets a triple double lying to your self will not help 😂😂😂 and lying in the comment like u watch the season is crazy cuz he was the most clutch and unstoppable player that year. Reason why dwayed said that’s the greatest season ever dick head
Your breakdowns are insane.. subscribed
Great video... Everything you said about Russ is pure facts and he really needs to work on those problems...
The gift that keeps on giving 4/26/19.... thank you sir
this shit is fucking hilarious. Now all you have to do is throw in the shitty playoffs he just had again. And Damien Lillard torched his ass. So why do the tunder pay westbrook 200 million dollars to led there team to the first round, just to get bounced. When you can get the far if not further with paul George. Trade westbrook now. Send him to the worst team in the league. He can then stat pad all he wants and his team will always lose.
the Westbrook Adams punch is the best thing they have going for them
I BET IF WILT CHAMBERLAIN WERE A MODERN PLAYER WE WOULD BE SAYING THE SAME THING ABOUT HIM
U have earned yourself a subscriber today sir
Finally the truth is revealed. Westbrook sucks.
Kevin Durant, is that you?
L. Ron Gardner KD has burners everywhere 😂😂😂
He doesn’t suck it’s just his triple doubles are a bit overrated
Kenjie Kenjie
Westbrook is overrated
He doesn’t necessarily suck
@@l.rongardner2150 westbrick is trash
3:40 This is my first time realizing how long Sabonis has been in the league.
Westbrick needs to hand over his MVP to Harden
Good stuff. Subbed. Keep it up man. Just lower the volume of the background music when u talk. It's distracting.
I feel like LeBron is stat padding since last year finals. Just to make it look good because he knew and knows he's not winning a title.
Franklyn Maldonado LeBron stats pad but nothing like westbrook. I never understood why coaches believe lebron has to play pg with another actual pg on the floor. With that said lebron is just a much better passer than westbrook. And even though lebron can have a shaky jumper, he can score so god damn easy doing other stuff like through transitions, put backs and ally oops. Lebron can drop 20pts without having to iso.
are you high. lebron is happy to get his teamates going. and only goes to scoring mode when he has to. dumb comments like this always confuse me.
MikeBNumba6
Lebron has to be pg because he can't play off the ball.
BeefPapa Correction. His team is better when he has the ball and that's why he does* Not bc he can't play off it. If his team was better and it allowed him to be off the ball more then he'd do it sure.
Cha Boiiiii
He has never done it, except for a brief period in Miami in 2011 and it just didn't work for him. He's great with the ball. That's where you get the most out of him. No reason to change that.
Man, Stockton was a great pointguard!
So basically he’s a point guard version of Lebron James (has to have the ball in his hand & offense run through him in order to be effective as well as hindering stars around him). I love his mentality & work ethic though. It’s to be greatly admired
But he doesn't have the same physique as LeBron. Also, LeBron does play defense.
Task Don Westbrook does have a similar strength & motor as Lebron. His game thrives on drivening & kicking the ball out just like LBJ’s. That’s why they wouldn’t be able to play together. It would be a “my turn, your turn” offense. Plus Lebron isn’t the On-ball defender he used to be. At best, now, he’ll get chase down blocks but can’t stay in front of a lot of guys
Chris John un no westbrook is nothing close to Lebron. For one Lebron's field goal percentage is around 10% higher than westbrook. and lebron is one of the best passers in nba history. there are some players who dominate the ball bc it gives them the best chance of winning lebron harden etc.
He does not have the same IQ lebron dors westbrook basketball IQ is one of the worst in PG position
Kind of but Lebron wins more and is way more efficient in every aspect of the game except free throws
Aye where have you been? Gotham needs you lol.
still a proud thunder fan
Kye Kok this dude is probably a golden state fan
how bout now
Respec
They used to be Super Sonic. Now they’re just OK
2011-2012, rekt by shane battier and mike miller in the Finals LOL. You guys had harden, westbrook and durant. And Ibaka. And Reggie Jackson, and Thabo and Perkins.
Where the hell was this channel? !!
After watching this video, I have to say ... Lebron is the true MVP.
Most VALUABLE player award.
But I will argue one thing, stats don't tell the whole story. They're only a part of the sport. When you watch the Thunder play, you can see a lot more to the story than stats. Russ almost has to play this way for the team to even function. Lol
Ronold Cledor lebron is the true MVP every year people knows that lol... and we all know who is the greatest player ryt now
What about now? Lol
Harden only leads in more topg and better free throw percentage
They will not give lebron the mvp anymore, the media cares too much about the story rather than who is really the most valuable player and for good reason. The only reason russ got the mvp because it was something that was never done before by a point guard. So it became a milestone for the league.
Bo Lo No he does not. PPG idk about APG but he shares ball distributing duty with CP3. He takes more outside shots and naturally he doesnt lead in RPG because he is a fucking guard, natural guard. Plus Harden has a way better team record.
EXCITING, EXCELLENT SUPERSTAR KEEP UP THE FANTASTIC WORK, MR. RUSSELL WESTBROOK!!