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No, sir, thank you for posting.
I was wondering if you could do a video on the LFL even though it isnt basketball
Jon Isaac should be an all defensive player this year but voters probably wont choose him 😔
Thanks alot man you doing the ground work helps alot. It clarifies many inconsistencies and helps with many of my arguments. It also helps when I talk about Kobe and other great players.
We need a part 2 cuz you know when this bubble thing is over it's gonna be a lot worse so it'll be interesting to see who is gonna be getting drug tested in the offseason
Jordan Bell on the all defensive team 😂
😭😭😭
I loved Jordan Bell that season he was w the Warriors... but he's not on any all defensive team. Get that guy outta the voting booth.
Jesus...
I think his per 75 possessions would make him awesome😂😂😂
@@gideoncheung8731 per75 gives Marjanović like 40/20/7 😂
20 minutes of more evidence of why I don't and can't take media voted awards seriously
@Notorious1503 after watching this video, can you?
@Notorious1503 Look at the contradiction between their All NBA and MVP votes. No you cannot take it seriously
Ram-C Not really tbh
Bruh dude really had D Wade on All NBA when he was literally coming off the bench in limited minutes and was bout to retire 🤦🏾♂️😂😂😂😂
According to Simmons' logic, he probably should've been 5th in mvp voting instead since that's different than putting up stats. Smh.
Why isnt "Basketball Examined" a voter instead of these guys ?
Because of fucking money.
Because he's not a LeBron apologist
He didn’t become a journalist and get a job on a major network, website, or newspaper
Makes you realize only sell outs and fools/prostitutes get jobs on tv.
Because he's just a RUclipsr compared to the guys who actually worked and covered teams
The only thing I would contest is this: All-NBA and MVP have different criteria. If I were a voter, I would emphasize team value more in MVP, because that’s the established precedent, and individual production in all-NBA. It’s the same reason KD and Steph could easily miss the top 5 in MVP voting while together, yet both be first team all-NBA.
@@chingdalashyashi8927 You're right it shouldn't be the other way around. Team success should correlate with MVP and All NBA should correlate with individual performance.
isn't mvp suppose to the most valuable players in the league? Just give it to the players who had the best stats in the league during each season
See you guys 2 months later 🤣
I was thinking the same thing! 😭
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Quality > Quantity 😭
Adam Leon these are very high quality videos don’t get me wrong but as someone who used to make videos, trust me, if they really wanted to they could upload a little more frequently than they do 🤣 still, it feels like a holiday whenever I get a notification from them so I guess it’s worth it🤷🏽♂️
@@atom0824 absolutely, BasketballExamined is not your typical garbage basketball channel; he's objective and knows what he's talking about, and gives insightful perspective as opposed to 99% of the super liberal sports media.
Kennegh Lau really put Danilo Gallinari on his 2019 All-NBA 2nd Team? smh
that's probably not even one of his three most inexcusable votes, guy needs to have his ballot taken away
It seems like he's making a mockery of the voting system on purpose
Anyone else seem to notice that he had a California Bias too? Gallo, Bell, Shai...
Lmao harden and curry on all defensive 1st team. This guy on something
Tell em pop
I feel like the guy thought he was voting for the All-NBA teams because that is the only way that makes a shred of sense
He probably thought it was the All nba team instead of all Defensive team
James Harden was really good on defense last year look it up lmao
KingDavid that’s immediately what I though
This is the best basketball channel period. Love the amount of time you spend on your videos. Every time I hear your music it's like "shit is about to hit the fan". ESPN hates your channel but keep it up!
Tony Wong I hope he never changes the music
this, Thinking Basketball, and the sports injury doctor Brian Sutterer are top tier sports channels
@ThunderHawk ah, can you hear me shaking my head?
Curry Harden Jokic Kryie on All defensive teams 😭😭😭😭😭
Almost as ugly as Romona Shelbourne's face
How Sway?
That guy clearly just Messed up his All NBA and All Defense Votes
yo im a big steph curry fan but that voter 100% high AF
Remember when Tyson Chandler and Marc Gasol won Defensive Player of the Year in 2012 and 2013 respectively, but neither made the 1st Team All-Defense?
I think the guy with curry and harden on all defense handed his all nba teams instead of his all defensive teams by mistake.
Really shows how professional he is about his job
@@dieneloleo2605 yep lmaaaao
@@dieneloleo2605 but I mean it's not a consistency issue also I disagree with the all nab MVP vote thing and it's because one of the people on the list of Lillard in mvp while not in first team all NBA is Simmons and he's talked about this point before all depends on your perspective of the MVP award
What everybody just witnessed was a 20 minute crash course on NBA backroom politics....
Salute to BE once again.
Marvin Bagley : All NBA 3rd Team 😭😭
Apparently Marvin barley is better than Lebron James. TIL
barely played😂😂
@@gideoncheung8731 I think they ran a sim of 2k and put whoever came up.
Instrumental never gets old
Yeah, love it
What’s the name of it
@@bigpurr1395 its in the description
Ikr!
@@bigpurr1395 soul is the name
Local writers voting for guys on their home team so that they can develop report with them and use that as a tool to get exclusive info from those players.
Yeah, I don't really fault the guys, but this system is flawed
This is genuinely insane. Thanks for putting this together. Kenneth Lau apparently needs to be institutionalized.
I’m not from the us but I started watching some nba games 3 years ago and when i first watched your channel i started to like nba even more, this channel made me understand things that only nba fans usually does. I can’t wait for the season to return and your future videos
I'd love to get paid for doing terrible at their job like these jokers
voters should submit a short essay highlighting why their picks are deserving of their spots on the All-NBA rosters, I'm sure that chinese bum would have made us laugh even more
we need this. looking at these votes makes me wonder wtf they were thinking
''he plays good defense'' and everyone will get a pass lol
airplaneoverthesemen Zach Lowe writes a piece every year on his ballot. I don’t read every writers articles, but a lot of these guys actually write articles or do a rundown of their ballots on podcasts. I was kind of annoyed he put some of the people he did in the video, because Zach, Bill, Bontemps, Beck, among others absolutely talk about who they pick and why, are knowledgeable about the game, and take their votes very seriously.
I don’t think enough research was put into this video.
Hunter King I do agree that including those names and highlighting the other side could have made this video more comprehensive, but I think the point he was trying to make was that voters who are not taking the voting process seriously need to be exposed and held accountable. Which I do agree with as well and I think is more urgent than giving credit to the responsible ones (although they should be much appreciated).
Why the hell is China voting in the NBA?
This channel is ridiculously underrated like idk how this dudes videos dont have millions of views. He puts in so much research and effort to make sure that he only puts out quality content. Honestly my favorite NBA channel
Who in their right mind would put Jokic on an all-defense team?
I wanna know what Kennaugh Lau is hittin😂
Love your content bro! Keep it up! We need more basketball channels like yours, that focus on intellectual subjects. No reason why the bball world shouldn't be examined with logic and reasoning. People who like to watch sports to turn off their brains confuse me. I think they're a great reason to think and reason more deeply.
I used to think that they should only let retired players vote on these awards, but after seeing how many ex players got it wrong here IDK who we can trust to vote anymore.
Great video man! I can't believe these people get to vote for awards that can affect players future contracts. Insane.
i swear if lebron james end up winning regular season mvp i'm gonna stop watching the NBA until he retires he played well this seasons no doubt but giannis is the mvp by miles.
preech
@sentoza sonic don't get me wrong I love lebron he's all time great but he can't be compared to michael with 6 final losses
Chief Sosa and never will because of them. The topic should never be brought up for discussion ever again. But I bet it will if he wins another with the lakers.
Bye
Am glad an objective mind of yours is uploading great content exposing these bogus voters. Casual fans have become deluded with highlights and headlines
One of the best NBA content creators on RUclips.
It's true. The only bad vid he made was efg% but aside from that, it's good content.
@@kingdinodragonite3470 it wasn't "bad" I'd love to see you do a better job at it
@@mohamedadan6678 i think thinking basketball already did that.
@@mohamedadan6678 I could make a better point but I'm busy and I'm not a RUclips creator like him.
Steph, Harden, Kyrie, and Dame as the best 4 DEFENDING guards, that's legitimately funny
I think the complete opposite. If they're gonna come up with bullshit like this they may as well go all they way and pick Caruso Jeremy lin and all the other notorious meme mfs that everybody love, smh these ppl are absolute clowns bro
There’s controversial and then there’s taking the piss. That first voter?? Deadset having a laugh 😂😂
Only channel I’m not actively scrolling thru comments while watching video, got me glued to the screen🤞🏽jus need em a lil sooner
Love your videos exposing these media people who think they know everything about basketball
When it comes to the inconsistent ballots (PG13 2nd in MVP to Giannis but on 2nd Team NBA), the voters may be saying that KD and Curry are better than those who got the MVP votes, but because they played with each other that canceled out potential MVP votes. Bill Simmons said something similar on his podcasta fee months ago, it was something like Kyle Lowry could be 3rd in MVP voting but not make an All-NBA team. He might not be one of the six best guards, but he is so valuable to the Raptors he would get those votes. It comes down to there not being a consistent definition of "Valuable."
So would you be ok with giving a player a 1st place MVP vote, but then have that same player on the All-NBA 2nd team?
@@BasketballExaminedI would potentially be okay with it, but I don't think that it would ever happen. If it were to happen it would probably happen with the Center position cause there's only one per Team.
Say the nuggets win 67-70 games and are the 1 seed in the west. Jokic puts up good numbers, but Embiid beats him in ever major statistical category. Jokic gets the MVP nod because Denver's system runs through him, but Embiid has the better individual season so he gets the 1st Team Vote. I would be okay with that situation.
@@BasketballExamined yes i would if he is the only superstar on his team hardcarrying his team while not being the best or 2nd best players
Hansim Glück that’s makes no sense. I be saying the same thing about the Grammies. How do a album nominated for album of the year lose its genre to a album not nominated for album of the year lol
It’s stupid to give a mvp vote to someone but put the person who didn’t get a mvp over the guy who got a vote😂
This shit crazy Wade 2nd team all nba lol
@@charlesquentin934 the Title is Most Valuable not Best
A Player can Be More Valuable to a Team without Being the Best
Example Lillard Vs Curry Steph is Better but Dame is way more Valuable to his team in 2019
Similar to the Grammies the Best Rap Song for Example isn't necessarily the Best Song
If a Album 60% Rap and 40% Singing/Pop or Whatever it may Lose to best Rap Album of the Year but Win as Album of the Year because it's better as an Album in general but isn't Pure Rap so it can't win Rap Album of the Year
This is a big reason why NBA awards shouldn't be the main way of evaluating which players are better than others and so on. There will always be bias, it's impossible not to have it.
This needs more views, this is a really good look at those voters with agenda
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Yall forgot the shannon Sharp Impressions
Here’s the thing about MVP and All NBA teams not being consistent. MVP is based off of individual stats and team record. So while Damian Lillard may be considered the third in MVP voting but on the second team, the Blazers record boosts his MVP odds.
Great video! Regarding All-NBA vs MVP voting, I think this can be explained in two ways: 1. People view MVP voting as different criteria from All-NBA. 2. They realize that only the first two votes for MVP really matter. Otherwise, totally legit complaints, imo.
It'd been a minute since the last vid. Love ya stuff man
Are these people watching the same NBA as us? Steph on all defensive team is hilarious
yo that massimo guy really put steph, harden, lillard and irving on his DEFENSIVE TEAM. maybe he thought this was his all-nba team. 😂
These videos always professionally roast the shit out of people and I love it
I've been questioning votes in my mind for a few seasons now, I had no idea it was this bad though...thank u for sharing these vids with us mate 👍🏻🇦🇺🏀❤
Anyone with Harden, Embid, or Westbrook on their defensive teams should be stripped of their votes
Dang bro, thought you quit the channel for a sec. Glad to see you're back.
I think the main problem here is 2 fold.
1. The definition of value is completely different on who you ask. People say someone like Draymond is a very valuable player while playing 3rd of 4th fiddle on a team. Meanwhile Devin Booker is the only reason the Suns werent this years Warriors team.
2. Some of these guys are very biased. Chicago reporter voting in a Chicago guy, Spurs reporter voting in the Spur, and an OKC reporter voting in a Thunder player. I think they need to remove voters who have shown biases so there can be a more fair vote.
Bball examined one of greatest on RUclips
I hope you can make a video of which nba media voters are the most consistent.
That would be interesting if there's a small number of them.
It could sway us to listen to those consistent voters more too.
Appreciate your hard work!
My day instantly gets better when I see that you have uploaded a new video. Haven’t even watched it yet. Much appreciated!!
I understand that your whole premise is that if a voter selects 5 players for the MVP you want to see them all in 1st or 2nd team all-NBA regardless of position.
The one thing people would contest in your approach is that you put equal weight on 1st Team voting and MVP voting. People might argue these two have different criteria. Call it recency bias or voter’s fatigue or ‘small market teams not getting enough coverage or exposure’.. For example, Gasol won DPOY in the past without being selected to 1st team all-defense.
*Yes, that was inconsistent as well.*
GOAT bball youtuber !!!
I get too hype watching these videos for some reason like "YES! EXPOSE THEY ASS!"
I dont have a paypal account but im willing to donate other ways like cashapp or something.. I wish I could like this video twice, you're one of the best youtubers of all time!!
Proud to be the thousandth like. Your insight is unmatched.
My man be doing that research!👍🏾 That theme song is the jam.
Some of these voters are wild. I don’t mind them pushing the limits at times but that is only ok if they do not affect the players’ salaries. The fact that these terrible votes can influence a player’s contract is absolutely terrible.
A lot of these are outrageous like Kyrie for all defense but the mvp voting is weird too, like some people picked the best players on the best teams and others just picked the 5 best players
4:24 You have Kawhi playing for OKC. Great video though
Been waiting for another video!!!!
5:09 Trae* Anyway great video as always
All always, incredible video, keep doing your work man, really appreciate
That dude that put Harden and Curry on 1st team all defensive lol
Straight up trolling
Great content as always! Less media, more basketball
These awards should only be voted on by the players and management
@Liam Foster nah that's how other sports have done it, even the NBA use to do it before
When the beat drops you know he's gonna spit some bars
Reason why I NEVER respect or consider regular season awards when talking basketball 😂
This is a really good video. But are you ever going to do an objective video on Magic & Kobe? Or did you already do that
DAMN! 😂 dude out here exposing these fools! Fuck yh keep going!
If you vote for Harden in anything defensive related then you should have voting privileges taken away immediately, that's indefensible. Harden's defense isn't as meme-worthy as it once was but he's still an average at best defender.
The mvp and 1st team bit can make sense depending on how you view mvp, being more valuable doesn't mean had a better season in some people's eyes
Why are people with no NBA experience allowed to vote in the first place? I don't think journalists should have this much power
That Kevin Durant clip of him saying the NBA Voters know the game NEVER gets old😂
Man it's sad to see even some of the former players being so inconsistent.
14:07 Did Marv Albert put in Gobert twice on his 1st and 2nd team All NBA?
D B considering it’s Marv Albert I wouldn’t be surprised
BubbaWasTaken yeah dementia probably hit him when he was balloting the European centers (Jokic and Gobert) and ended up putting Gobert twice
@@db7467 *Kevin Durant attempts shot*
Marv Albert: DRAYMOND GREEN FOR 3!
The Tiger Legionnaire “Now they’re saying there was a foot on the line”
@@db7467 lol
Great vid. A solution the NBA could consider is to have a yearly review of all voters ballots to identify inconsistencies. And should there be repeat offences the voting rights are stripped
Love your videos man! Keep up the great work!
The voters seem to vote on a popularity system. When you watch first take SAS does this especially when he was exposed a couple years ago when the question of who was better in their first 95 games Kawhi Leonard or Kobe Bryant. The numbers clearly favored Leonard but SAS completely disregarded the question for the resume debate.
You know Kobe started in the 90s when the scores in game was about 80-90 and played defense. Kobe made all-star team in his rookie year.
Oh this is about voting last year. I was like “what you got against Luka?”
I really hope this video blow up, these voters should get fired
It’s always a good day when BE posts a video
NBA youtubers with 100k subs or more need to form a group that votes on season ending awards. I’d love to see your opinions against the mainstream media. The problem with this idea is RUclips is in the bed with the media. RUclips would back the MSM over you guys and shadowban any promotion of your awards.
Crazy stuff. You're doing the Lord's work here.
Until Next Time? We will be here in October 😂
BE should be making audits for the IRS
The research level on this video is amazing.
The media isn't responsible for the CBA decision to reward money based off of voting results. The money shouldn't factor into their voting process at all. The players aren't losing any money based off of media decisions, they're only losing out on potential money.
Kenneth Lau is also a bad host while broadcasting NBA or other basketball games in Chinese.
This video is awesome! Some of these "voters" should be voted out. James Harden on the all defense 1st team. SMFH 🤣🤣🤣
Is it possible that these guys were just trying to assemble the 1st best team, 2nd best team, etc. possible while putting into some consideration their fit????
Like, at the time of the voting, nobody would've imagined HOU Harden and OKC Westbrook to be able to play together as teammates.
The Paul George case is just very weird to me.
It wouldn't surprise me if all of these voters moonlight as professional boxing and UFC judges. Appears they all have something in common :)
Holy f please don’t ever give this lau dude another vote must’ve been drunk while voting 🤣🤣
Good job looking into all this data
Indeed. At least since the change in eligibility requirements for voters to exclude local broadcast sports commentator folks, bc bias concerns. The voters often don't watch the games and/or are just media personalities, so one can't expect they've watched smaller market teams play at all outside of highlight clips and they get their info from staff/analysts and the stats. Not watching the players in games, a lot is lost that the old eyeballs observe beyond the aggregate statline. That is my worthless opinion and I haven't kept up, but last I did, I found the Player's Choice Awards to best reflect the realities.
love seeing a new notification from this channel
I dont believe the media deserves the right to vote anymore...only the players themselves should vote on it.
I don't mind beat writers pushing their guys ahead because they are obviously biased and their votes cancel each other out
I'm a Canadian Chinese B-Ball fan, for the Chinese names for the reporters the name goes in a different order. It is family and then the person's name. So it should be Zhang Weiping; Zhang being the family name and Weiping being the person's name. Trust me it sounds better; good effort on trying to pronounce the names.
Good to see you back