I would looooveeee you to make a video on the design process of one if these projects! From sketches to 3D modeling and the tests before the final product!! 🙌🏻
The way all of it is explained is so simple and intuituve, but as a ME student the amount of engineering coming from a single person for such a project is truly astounding! Indeed it it satisfying to see 3d printed parts and cnc mashined parts working together, and the final quality of the product is just otherworldly. Excellent job on the project!
I see you've already gone up 1,000 subscribers since editing this video. Here's to 300k! I enjoy your content. I might never have the equipment, but it sure is fun to see the process you go through. -Guy with a bunch of Ryobi woodworking tools
I’d think about long bristles still. I had a shoe like this and I do a lot of small projects. When the shoe was near the edge I had dust fly through the gap. Better air flow and no router fan blowing chips will make your setup work better than mine did near the edge of the workpiece.
Nice design. Here's a couple of issues where this dust shoe will have collisions: 1. toolpaths for 3D reliefs that are taller or deeper than your dust shoe's Z clearance - i.e. The cutter moves higher and lower than the shoes clearance will allow relative to the top of the workpiece (like if you were cutting a tall mountainscape using a short bit) 2. Workholding clamps will collide when holding a small workpiece
I've recently been turned on to 1/8" compression bits for cutting plywood and other sheet goods. It'll run full depth one pass, no tabs needed since it will pack the chips into the slot. I'm not going back. Pretty cool design for a dust shoe. Gives me some concepts to work with on the one I'm designing in my head.
Looks like the best solution I have seen for this problem so far. Great job mate, I love your videos and your style. Thanks for putting all this out there for us!
The dust collector pipe that comes into the room you could have left short so the 90° elbow would be dead center of the table. Now all you need is a damper door so it's not pulling air when using other tools in the shop. Also you can use an Arduino and a couple of servos to open and close the damper door at the top. When you go to use your CNC machine it can turn on the dust collection system remotely (so you don't have to leave the room to turn it on if that's what you have to do) when you go to use your CNC machine the moment it turns on, it opens up the damper door at the top and turns on the dust collection at the same time automatically.
Just an idea, you could add a couple of magnets to the top of the flexible boot and the tapered seat on the spindle to maybe help with always creating a good seal there. Doesn't look like it was an issue for you but thought it was worth mentioning. Nicely done!
I'm really happy to run across your wonderful channel with your pretty enthusiastic and dynamic personality and a huge amount of skills. Thank you Alexandre. It's entertaining, instructive and helpful. Great channel indeed.
What I did was just glue a piece of scrap packaging crate wood on the top so you can surface that and it doesn’t overhang the cutting area. That way there are also no screws that you could hit.
Great video, I used a dust shoe like this for a long time, there is only one problem with it, you can't make those really cool time lapse and smooth cnc cutting shots. I still use something like this when surfacing, but most of the video I shoot uses simple spindle mounted dust collection.
At my old I also put together and got an Avid CNC router table running. The shoe we used was third party and the guy made them out of laser cut acrylic. Worked well and the best part was that he made the brushes and spacers magnetic so it was super easy to just take off the show and adjust the height. An issue I see with your solution is that it might be tricky to get your references with the tool touch off probe and tool changes
I prefer the dust shoe solution from Marius Hornberger, including the magnet-connection of the brush part. Nevertheless a great project and your workshop will be more or less dust free in the future! Thank you Alex
Open some ventilation up in that flexible red 3d printed collar, so, the created suction pulls air from there, to create an airflow from router to the part, then to the dust collection. Now it sucks from around through brushes, which is fine, but the volume right around router collar is dead air, fine dust can go there and stay there. Just an idea, i dont know if it is a problem worth to solve, or the solution is efficient enough, but here it is an idea.
You should see if you can build a little bracket that would make it possible to mount a gopro onto the router. You could get some interesting angles of it working
I would consider adding dowels to your rails. That way if you ever needed to remove them for a very large piece, you could put them back in the exact same place.
Because of the sliding adjustability, it wouldnt be that hard to add a 'setting' where you could have the dust collection head move up and down the with the spindle should you find that necessary on a particular project. Could even be as simple as a sturdy rubber band hooked to the spindle head and the adjustment knobs left loose. As always, love the design and manufacturing processes you show. Great vid quality! Cheers from Maine, USA!
Your videos are such a joy to watch!! You do beautiful work (and your solutions are always so smart) and the video production is also top-notch. I keep waiting for new videos from you 😀.
Congratulations for this new video ! I follow a lot of maker on the Internet, and I have to say you're my favorite one ! Like your work, like your videos, like your creations... 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I'd love to see a onefinity version but I guess it's never gonna happen unless you have friends with one you can beta test it on. Love the idea of a flexible tpu pipe taking up slack.
I wonder if it could be a good idea to add some kind of locking/clamping mechanism on the top of that red accordion tube, make it a little longer, and have it always be up to the drill and attached. That would keep it from eventually wearing out and not springing back up, and if you need access to the bit, you can unlock it and access it normally.
I also thought about it, but then it would be difficult to reach the tool to change it. The way it is now, he can just raise the z-axis and change the bit.
Nice job!! I'll make one comment.. I have a similar style dust shoe that stays at a constant height.. I also added in a t-slot clamping system instead of screwing the work piece directly to the spoil board... In this case I need to make sure the dust shoe doesn't impact the t-slot hold downs. Just means I need to be careful on where I place them in relation to where the cuts and gantry travel will be. Obviously if you stay with the screw hold down technique then this isn't and issue, but t-slots in the end give a nice variety of hold down options...
Hey, that hose has metal in it. It could accidentally trip your proximity sensors on the top of your z axis in the middle of a job. I have the same brand system. I actually zip tied the hose to the top of the z axis so it could not move around it and remained in a safe place. More strain relief, and a long job may not be accidentally interrupted. Cheers!
@@ZrubekFamily What? No it's not. I grew up with the standard/imperial system and it is fundamentally arbitrary. 12 inches to a foot, 3 feet to a yard, 1760 yards to a mile. You buy land by the acre, which is 43,560 square feet.
Very good. I'm sure you have thought about it already but why not have your positive stop at the back incase you wanted to do tiled cncing with a full 8ft sheet
Very nice solution, although it does limit the CNC to 2 degrees of freedom while in operation. Do you expect that you'll mainly be using it for 2D cuts?
Awsome videos!! I purchased your Dust Shoe Digital file. But noticed your files are not to scale. I imported the dxf file to Vectric Aspire and noticed that the file is scaled for 15 inch thick material not 5/8 inch. I've also noticed that the scale on the stl file for example the spindle dust adapter is Z: 80 inch, X: 268.6395 inch, Y: 166.9998 inch. I don't own a 3d printer and will have a local store that provides 3d printing services print all the 3d parts for me.
Pretty well designed. I guess you're a designer aren't you? Strange that this post earned less than other average reviewers' dealing with the same topic... I'm glad that there are a bunch of your posts left to watch. That'll make great weekends.
Some CAM software can overcut the inside corners automatically to provide the relief for a fully square tab to insert. I do it manually in my CAD design with a circle a few thousandths bigger than the tool, and moving it 45 degrees so it just passes the corner by a few thousandths.
I'm pretty sure the 0,0 refers to the lower left corner in the drawings when placing parts in software like fusion360 or Vectric. The 0,0 corner will be in the same spot no matter what size end mill he uses. He could have used the 2" flattening bit to cut the boundaries of 0,0 but then the inside corner radius would be too big...
Just a question could you not flatten the front edge and add the zero zero stop to the back of the table, that way if you were cutting a longer sheet you can over hang it off the front edge and still be able to cut what you needed? I dont know if that is something you can do I dont own a CNC so just thinking out loud, great videos by the way
Alex, you are a genius. I know I'm way behind here, but I'm just starting out at the age of 66. My aspirations are on a small scale and I'm wondering if your "dust extraction system" could be scaled down in some way and achieve the same end?
this is perfect but only for sheet material. will not work for 3d routing with large hight difference... but i think i will give it a try on my router!
I would looooveeee you to make a video on the design process of one if these projects! From sketches to 3D modeling and the tests before the final product!! 🙌🏻
"ehehehhehewell get to that" - ALCH
yes please!
I would be SUPER HAPPY with how that video will turn out 😅
yes please
THIS COMMENT IS WHAT WE NEED
I love how he just basically only uses his workshop to improve his workshop :D
thats the most fun part of building a shop ;)
His workshop achieved singularity.
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The way all of it is explained is so simple and intuituve, but as a ME student the amount of engineering coming from a single person for such a project is truly astounding! Indeed it it satisfying to see 3d printed parts and cnc mashined parts working together, and the final quality of the product is just otherworldly. Excellent job on the project!
I see you've already gone up 1,000 subscribers since editing this video. Here's to 300k! I enjoy your content. I might never have the equipment, but it sure is fun to see the process you go through. -Guy with a bunch of Ryobi woodworking tools
I’d think about long bristles still. I had a shoe like this and I do a lot of small projects. When the shoe was near the edge I had dust fly through the gap. Better air flow and no router fan blowing chips will make your setup work better than mine did near the edge of the workpiece.
Oh my god, You are genius! I was thinkin about dust coolection on my CNC for an Year. And your idea is perfectly for me. God, i love you man!!!
Nice design. Here's a couple of issues where this dust shoe will have collisions:
1. toolpaths for 3D reliefs that are taller or deeper than your dust shoe's Z clearance - i.e. The cutter moves higher and lower than the shoes clearance will allow relative to the top of the workpiece (like if you were cutting a tall mountainscape using a short bit)
2. Workholding clamps will collide when holding a small workpiece
Пожалуй это изобретение надо всем производителям ЧПУ станков продавать. Александре как всегда молодец.
that's the nicest notification u can have
So awesome seeing this channel grow from less than 50k to almost 300k. Onto 1 million soon! Keep it up Alex
I've recently been turned on to 1/8" compression bits for cutting plywood and other sheet goods. It'll run full depth one pass, no tabs needed since it will pack the chips into the slot. I'm not going back.
Pretty cool design for a dust shoe. Gives me some concepts to work with on the one I'm designing in my head.
Looks like the best solution I have seen for this problem so far. Great job mate, I love your videos and your style. Thanks for putting all this out there for us!
That dust collection system makes the cutter look badass! It’s looking like a whole industrial shop in there now. Great job on the project!
The dust collector pipe that comes into the room you could have left short so the 90° elbow would be dead center of the table. Now all you need is a damper door so it's not pulling air when using other tools in the shop. Also you can use an Arduino and a couple of servos to open and close the damper door at the top. When you go to use your CNC machine it can turn on the dust collection system remotely (so you don't have to leave the room to turn it on if that's what you have to do) when you go to use your CNC machine the moment it turns on, it opens up the damper door at the top and turns on the dust collection at the same time automatically.
Just an idea, you could add a couple of magnets to the top of the flexible boot and the tapered seat on the spindle to maybe help with always creating a good seal there. Doesn't look like it was an issue for you but thought it was worth mentioning. Nicely done!
Only took me 1 video to suscribe and now im watching all of ur videos. Amazing work!
I'm really happy to run across your wonderful channel with your pretty enthusiastic and dynamic personality and a huge amount of skills. Thank you Alexandre. It's entertaining, instructive and helpful. Great channel indeed.
What I did was just glue a piece of scrap packaging crate wood on the top so you can surface that and it doesn’t overhang the cutting area. That way there are also no screws that you could hit.
Great video, I used a dust shoe like this for a long time, there is only one problem with it, you can't make those really cool time lapse and smooth cnc cutting shots. I still use something like this when surfacing, but most of the video I shoot uses simple spindle mounted dust collection.
More problems: you can't easily zero your Z-axis. You can't use lasers to see the bit position and easily zero X and Y.
You need a detachable system.
At my old I also put together and got an Avid CNC router table running. The shoe we used was third party and the guy made them out of laser cut acrylic. Worked well and the best part was that he made the brushes and spacers magnetic so it was super easy to just take off the show and adjust the height. An issue I see with your solution is that it might be tricky to get your references with the tool touch off probe and tool changes
Very nice design keeping the dust shoe bristles stationary in the Z axis. Hope your channel keeps growing.
Outstanding work my friend I know you have the attention of all CNC owners
flush trim bit for clearing away the tabs can be great too if you have many... great video
I prefer the dust shoe solution from Marius Hornberger, including the magnet-connection of the brush part. Nevertheless a great project and your workshop will be more or less dust free in the future! Thank you Alex
Open some ventilation up in that flexible red 3d printed collar, so, the created suction pulls air from there, to create an airflow from router to the part, then to the dust collection. Now it sucks from around through brushes, which is fine, but the volume right around router collar is dead air, fine dust can go there and stay there.
Just an idea, i dont know if it is a problem worth to solve, or the solution is efficient enough, but here it is an idea.
You should see if you can build a little bracket that would make it possible to mount a gopro onto the router. You could get some interesting angles of it working
congrats for the very good solution
I would consider adding dowels to your rails. That way if you ever needed to remove them for a very large piece, you could put them back in the exact same place.
you are really underrated alexandre,
your work is amazing
I now want a shop in my life, this seems like a fun project.
Your design and engineering skills are exquisite. Always love watching your work flow.
Hooray for 3D Printing! Yes drying filament can help a lot. Great work 👍
Love your energy and style
The idea of a flexible hose is SO genius. Why did I not think of this?!
Very professional, accurate and very smart work. I continue to love to follow you 🇸🇦
Because of the sliding adjustability, it wouldnt be that hard to add a 'setting' where you could have the dust collection head move up and down the with the spindle should you find that necessary on a particular project. Could even be as simple as a sturdy rubber band hooked to the spindle head and the adjustment knobs left loose. As always, love the design and manufacturing processes you show. Great vid quality! Cheers from Maine, USA!
I was really struggling to figure out how he was going to address that but your reply sounds solid enough!
Ok that’s the best cnc dust collection system I’ve seen!! Nice 👍
I like couch next to router. Nice touch!
Keep up!
Vacuum workholding system next?
Your videos are such a joy to watch!! You do beautiful work (and your solutions are always so smart) and the video production is also top-notch. I keep waiting for new videos from you 😀.
Nice project and good video, as always! 👍
Great, that You show about clearance issue between dust collector and machines spindle..
I'm so jealous. Great job!
Congratulations for this new video !
I follow a lot of maker on the Internet, and I have to say you're my favorite one ! Like your work, like your videos, like your creations...
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I'd love to see a onefinity version but I guess it's never gonna happen unless you have friends with one you can beta test it on. Love the idea of a flexible tpu pipe taking up slack.
love the energy and personality. greetings from Argentina Alexander
Awesome, Alexandre! It's much better now! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Alex, well done! I know what you mean about different manufacturing methods creating interfacing parts. It's really satisfying.
-Ken
It’s so beautiful
Have you thought about building plexiglass walls and doors around the CNC? Similar to a 3D printer enclosure.
Just oredered my first 3d printer, and I have an avid pro 4x8 foot, so I'll give this project a go :)
First time I see this (0,0) approach and I think is great! Probably has some cons otherwise everyone else will start doing as well :D
Yeah hopefully Alex ran the bit on a x =3 and y = 3 path if he was using a 6mm cutter
I wonder if it could be a good idea to add some kind of locking/clamping mechanism on the top of that red accordion tube, make it a little longer, and have it always be up to the drill and attached. That would keep it from eventually wearing out and not springing back up, and if you need access to the bit, you can unlock it and access it normally.
I also thought about it, but then it would be difficult to reach the tool to change it. The way it is now, he can just raise the z-axis and change the bit.
I was thinking rare earth magnets
Good work, maybe you can think about a rotating joint on the top connection to increase your mtbf.
Brilliant job mate… as always 👍👍👍👍
Love your energy man 🤘
Nice job!!
I'll make one comment.. I have a similar style dust shoe that stays at a constant height.. I also added in a t-slot clamping system instead of screwing the work piece directly to the spoil board... In this case I need to make sure the dust shoe doesn't impact the t-slot hold downs. Just means I need to be careful on where I place them in relation to where the cuts and gantry travel will be. Obviously if you stay with the screw hold down technique then this isn't and issue, but t-slots in the end give a nice variety of hold down options...
Congratulations on reaching 90 awesome videos I hope u will make a 100th video special
Great design. Would you ever add a hinge to make it more accessible?
Hey, that hose has metal in it. It could accidentally trip your proximity sensors on the top of your z axis in the middle of a job. I have the same brand system. I actually zip tied the hose to the top of the z axis so it could not move around it and remained in a safe place. More strain relief, and a long job may not be accidentally interrupted. Cheers!
Amazing work, continue
Very nice solution! Have you seen the one from Marius Hornberger yet?
Here is a link to his video: ruclips.net/video/IF8U8nd5oSM/видео.html
I was thinking the same thing, looks like a very similar approach, but this is more manual
Love it. Those 3D printed boots are beautiful!
"...in case you have to deal with the imperial system." Alexandre knows the pain of American makers.
Scrolled to the comment immediately after he said that lol.
The system that is easiest to use is the one you grow up with.
@@ZrubekFamily What? No it's not. I grew up with the standard/imperial system and it is fundamentally arbitrary. 12 inches to a foot, 3 feet to a yard, 1760 yards to a mile. You buy land by the acre, which is 43,560 square feet.
@@ZrubekFamily not true
Fantastic video, well done
GENIUS ! Super good idea, good video also, thanks !
Trop kool ce que tu as fait.
ya, I am kinda super jealous and I can't even really hide it :D. Very awesome setup!
Brilliant Design!
Very good. I'm sure you have thought about it already but why not have your positive stop at the back incase you wanted to do tiled cncing with a full 8ft sheet
Such great quality work!! Love this channel!!
I do the same zero zero brackets. Makes it easy.
Very very nice design.
So jealous of plywood quality available outside USA.
might 'mount' the red baffle to base with magnetic ring of sort to allow it to be removed easier. I like seeing my bits do business on occasion
If you’re worried about the printed dust collection shoe coming lose, you may be able to use rivits in the holes vs screws.
As always a great video! Well done Alex.
Very nice solution, although it does limit the CNC to 2 degrees of freedom while in operation. Do you expect that you'll mainly be using it for 2D cuts?
I really love your videos, you inspire me and i want to make similar ones!
Greeting from argentina
Brilliant. That's some great problem solving.
that came out great, can't wait to see what you'll CNC next!
Hi! Did you connect all the metal conduit and the wire inside flexible pipe to the ground? It's for avoid static discharge.
Awsome videos!!
I purchased your Dust Shoe Digital file.
But noticed your files are not to scale.
I imported the dxf file to Vectric Aspire and noticed that the file is scaled for 15 inch thick material not 5/8 inch. I've also noticed that the scale on the stl file for example the spindle dust adapter is Z: 80 inch, X: 268.6395 inch, Y: 166.9998 inch.
I don't own a 3d printer and will have a local store that provides 3d printing services print all the 3d parts for me.
Pretty well designed. I guess you're a designer aren't you? Strange that this post earned less than other average reviewers' dealing with the same topic... I'm glad that there are a bunch of your posts left to watch. That'll make great weekends.
Ur the man Alex! Cheers
keep it up have the same issues, thanks for making cool videos.
keep making more awesome videos
Did you take in account the router bit width when creating the zero corner? And how is that going to affect future projects?
Some CAM software can overcut the inside corners automatically to provide the relief for a fully square tab to insert. I do it manually in my CAD design with a circle a few thousandths bigger than the tool, and moving it 45 degrees so it just passes the corner by a few thousandths.
Thats usually done in software, inside, outside or on the line cut.
To clarify, the corner is "zero zero" in relation to the end mill that you zeroed with., not the center of the spindle.
I'm pretty sure the 0,0 refers to the lower left corner in the drawings when placing parts in software like fusion360 or Vectric. The 0,0 corner will be in the same spot no matter what size end mill he uses. He could have used the 2" flattening bit to cut the boundaries of 0,0 but then the inside corner radius would be too big...
Really nice video!
PS: I installed Karma with your link ;-)
Awesome videos! Love the enthusiasm too!
Greta design very clever my biggest problem is the dust off my cnc
Cool thinking, nice jobb.
I like this knob, do I have to pay for the plans or can I have it separately? Unfortunately I do not have a CNC nor I need any camera sliding thingy.
Just a question could you not flatten the front edge and add the zero zero stop to the back of the table, that way if you were cutting a longer sheet you can over hang it off the front edge and still be able to cut what you needed? I dont know if that is something you can do I dont own a CNC so just thinking out loud, great videos by the way
You know making that table surface so thick but also allow you to put some quick release lever things on the edges to hold down smaller stock.
Alex, you are a genius. I know I'm way behind here, but I'm just starting out at the age of 66. My aspirations are on a small scale and I'm wondering if your "dust extraction system" could be scaled down in some way and achieve the same end?
As always: Amazing video! 💪🏼👌🏼 Really creative solutions to bring it all together☺️
this is perfect but only for sheet material. will not work for 3d routing with large hight difference... but i think i will give it a try on my router!
Is there any way you can use that dust afterwords?
Great job!
Maybe a plexiglas divider between cnc and couch?
The filament link doesn't work.