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79 Car Fallen Flag Freight Train
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- Опубликовано: 4 фев 2024
- NOTE: The Lake Superior & Ishpeming still operates in Michigan's Upper Peninsula and should not be included as a Fallen Flag railroad.
Fallen flag freight cars and the railroad names they carry are shown in alphabetical order by the formal name of the railroad. For example, Santa Fe is actually Atchison Topeka & Santa Fe, Burlington is actually Chicago Burlington & Quincy, Milwaukee Road is actually Chicago Milwaukee St. Paul & Pacific, etc.
This is not a complete showing of all Fallen Flags, just a sampling.
The 1960-1980 period was a colorful and diverse time in terms of freight equipment schemes. Enjoy this look at a bygone era.
The following, in order, are the Fallen Flag railroad freight cars represented:
Akron Canton & Youngstown
Ann Arbor
Atchison Topeka & Santa Fe
Atlanta & West Point
Atlantic Coast Line
Baltimore & Ohio
Bangor & Aroostook
Bessemer & Lake Erie
Boston & Maine
Buffalo Creek
Burlington Northern
Central of Georgia
Central RR of New Jersey
Chesapeake & Ohio
Chicago Burlington & Quincy
Chicago & Eastern Illinois
Chicago Great Western
Chicago & Illinois Midland
Chicago Indianapolis & Louisville MONON
Chicago & North Western
Chicago Milwaukee St. Paul & Pacific
Chicago Rock Island & Pacific
Cleveland Cincinnati Chicago & St. Louis THE BIG FOUR
Clinchfield
Delaware & Hudson
Delaware Lackawanna & Western
Denver & Rio Grande Western
Des Moines & Central Iowa
Detroit & Mackinac
Detroit Toledo & Ironton
Detroit & Toledo Shore Line
Duluth South Shore & Atlantic
Duluth Winnipeg and Pacific
Elgin Joliet & Eastern
Erie Lackawanna
Fort Dodge Des Moines & Southern
Grand Trunk &Western
Great Northern
Green Bay & Western
Gulf Mobile & Ohio
Illinois Central
Illinois Terminal
Kansas City Southern
Lake Superior & Ishpeming
Lehigh Valley
Litchfield & Madison
Louisville & Nashville
Maine Central
Minneapolis Northfield & Southern
Minneapolis & St. Louis
Minneapolis St. Paul & Sault Saint Marie SOO LINE
Missouri Kansas & Texas
Missouri Pacific
New York Central
New York Chicago & St. Louis NICKEL PLATE
New York New Haven & Hartford
Norfolk & Western
Northern Pacific
Pennsylvania
Penn Central
Pittsburgh & Lake Erie
Port Huron & Detroit
Quanah Acme & Pacific
Reading
Richmond Fredericksburg & Potomac
Roscoe Snyder & Pacific
Rutland
St. Louis San Francisco FRISCO
St. Louis Southwestern COTTON BELT
Seaboard Air Line
Seaboard Coast Line
Southern
Southern Pacific
Spokane Portland & Seattle
Toledo Peoria & Western
Virginian
Wabash
Western Maryland
Western Pacific
It's so sad that ALL of those roads are gone now!!!! Mergers are not always a good thing!!!! Thanks for showing us just how much we have lost. Great video!!!!
Thanks very much for your comments and I appreciate you taking the time to watch the video. Mike
That was excellent. Great idea and you are absolutely right that period was a colorful time much better then today's drab inter modal IMHO🥴.And not only colorful and a nice variety of freight cars but clean as well 🙂
What do you mean? They are colorful today, full of vandalism, I mean graffiti. 😒😒
Thank you for your comments. It truly was a colorful time for freight equipment. Mike
Another great video. Seeing all the fallen flags does bring back some memories, especially Illinois Central, Illinois Terminal, for who I worked for the first summer out of high school, and the Gulf Mobile and Ohio. Those are the lines I grew up with.
Glad you enjoyed the video, Todd. As always, thanks for watching and for your comments. Mike
Neat! Running fallen flags is apparently all my layout is about...I have three UP freight cars, a high cube boxcar., grain boxcar, and tankcar, from the late 60's early 70's that aren't technically fallen flags (as close to modern era as I care to get), but represent the era of mid 1960's to 1980. Very enjoyable run bys!
Thank you, Rick, for watching and commenting. Mike
I watched this again this morning. You created such an awesome video. Your new channel logo is very nice. Your layout is obviously made to run trains and the scenery just blends so well to represent the Midwest region of the U.S. The way you realistically used a single main track with sidings is rare in model train layouts, but it is railroading 101.
Sidebar - Rock Island (RI) did so many things great when it came to infrastructure. In so many places, El Reno, OK as an example, the RI was state of the art with regards to engineering and construction so El Reno did not become a chokepoint at a major crossroads. The old guys I worked with, who started working in the 50's and 60's before deferred maintenance ravaged the RI, bragged about how the RI created multiple routes for freight main to be operated separately from the passenger main and the El Reno freight yard was built for switch engines to classify trains from both ends of the yard at once with dual switching leads at both ends. Overpasses and underpasses were built to keep ground traffic off the rails in El Reno. The RI also dispersed classification railyards to allow for efficient operations so chokepoints were reduced or eliminated. Shawnee and Sayre shared switching with El Reno on the East/West route, and Enid, Chickasha and Duncan/Sunray shared switching with El Reno on the North/South route. That eased the switching operations at El Reno and allowed for run thru operations in El Reno, so it remained fluid during most times of the year.
It seems to have been made by academics who studied and understood railroading. As a locomotive engineer of over 43 years, the longer I worked on the old RI in Oklahoma, the more I appreciated it. So many railroads were designed and constructed by money managers who placed the tracks on top of the ground with very little grade work to create a stable and efficient roadbed for train operation. The RI built exceptional roadbeds that allowed for easy and efficient train operations. So many railroads (MKT, Frisco and to some degree the UP, even though UP was rebuilt under Harriman) were constructed to curve willy-nilly all over the land. RI constructed many routes as straight as possible, knowing curves cost money and are inefficient. It wasn't perfect, but it was good.
The RI did not go out of business because it wasn't built right. It went out of business because of poor leadership who thought of the railroad as if it was a rapid wealth instrument to reap massive riches from, or dispose of it like a used paper cup if it did not earn as much money as the leadership wanted.
Those are just a few things I wanted to share.
Thank you
Kevin
Hi Kevin - I really appreciate and enjoy your commentary that comes from many years of hands-on railroad experience. It's obvious that you loved the Rock Island and were a loyal employee. Thanks for your kind words and for sharing the sidebar details. Mike
What a wonderful idea for a train and video! I recognized nearly all but a couple of the railroads. Buffalo Creek and Des Moines & Central Iowa didn't ring a bell.
6:09 Lake Superior & Ishpeming is still in operation. Granted, it's a shadow of its former self, but it's still hauling ore. For now. None of their locomotives wear the classic LS&I paint scheme, however. Some are former BN U-boats (aka "greens") and newer CEFX AC4400s ("blues").
Thank you for pointing out that the LS&I still operates in Michigan's Upper Peninsula. I've added a note to the video description to clarify that point. I appreciate you watching the video and thank you for your comments. Mike
Only fallen flags in the real world, on model railroads they will be around forever. Cool video 👍👍🚂🇺🇸-Kevin
I agree, we keep the Fallen Flags alive with our model railroads. Thanks for watching and for your comments. Mike
Love your railroad. Never modeled the Rock Island but was always fascinated by it. Hope to see some of the Bowser C415's on your railroad when they come out!
Thank you, C-415’s would be cool.-Kevin
Fun idea. But it made me sad remembering all those RRs well never see again. Thanks! ~G.
Hi George - I appreciate you watching the video and thank you for your comments. Mike
Great video. Please continue to do this.
Thank you! Mike
Great idea and video Mike!
Thank you, Robert! Mike
What a great idea and video Mike!
Thanks, John, for checking out the video. Mike
Cool idea!
Thank you very much! Mike
Great video!
Thank you! Mike
That was cool 👍🤠👍
Thank you, Randy! Mike
Too my lost colorful trains.
Agreed, Ron, much of the colorful equipment is lost ....... but at least we can keep it alive on our model railroads. Mike
Thank you for sharing. Hey Mike, perhaps you should have called this train a funeral train, so sad that we lost so many railroads. Box cars were so colorful back in those days. Enjoyed the video very much and what a nice collection of fallen flags cars you have. Thanks, Gary
Thank you, Gary, for your comments which I always appreciate. Mike
Very cool video. So many railroads gone. I model the mid to late 80s. It is so difficult to know what I should be running and what not to run. I have a list of all the mergers and buy outs and so on, but still doesn't tell me with accuracy of what reporting marks are in existence for my time I'm modeling.
Even with mergers, many freight cars weren't repainted into the new railroad scheme for years if ever at all. If the car build date is prior to the late 1980's that you model, it can be fair-game for your roster with appropriate weathering (i.e. the older the car, the heavier the weathering). I've watched several of your videos and you have done an excellent job of remaining true and faithful to your era of operations with your equipment. Thank you for watching the video. Mike
It's time to go shopping for cars, saw a few in there. I didn't know I needed. My wife would probably have a different opinion😂. Great video Mike are some of those custom painted?
Yes, six of the cars are custom painted. Thanks for watching the video! Mike
Probably should have left out the rock island boxcar as the company isn’t a fallen flag anymore and are actively restoring trackage in Mississippi in all places!
The short-line railroad in Mississippi (Rock Island Rail) acquired the rights to the corporate name and identity of the Chicago Rock Island & Pacific Railroad. It's great to witness the short-line operating to maintain the legacy and memory of the original Rock Island Lines which shut-down operations on March 31, 1980. The original Rock Island Lines is a true fallen flag while the Class 3 short-line operation has, gratefully, resurrected the official name and identity of the once great Class 1 railroad. Thanks very much for watching the video and I appreciate your comments. Mike
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