XC Full Suspension Vs Aggressive Hardtail | Which Is Faster, Aggressive Geometry Or More Suspension?

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  • Опубликовано: 24 дек 2024

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  • @riggedupgaming
    @riggedupgaming Год назад +18

    Hey Blake just wanted to thank you for all the effort and enthusiasm you put into these video! It always makes me excited to go riding and I totally share your love for hardtails! And of course thanks to everyone else behind the scenes on the GMBN team making these videos so entertaining and high-quality. Always fun to watch what videos you're putting out next!

  • @rong.9130
    @rong.9130 Год назад +3

    I ride a slack hardtail with 2.6 Minions, so I wasn't a bit surprised by the results. But I'm still marveling at your ability to ride that sloppy trail, in the rain, with no fenders or eye protection. That was some kind of black magic.

  • @Cous1nJack
    @Cous1nJack Год назад +11

    1) This year’s xc with fox 34 is an aggro trail bike from 5 years ago. 2) it’s the rider not the bike

  • @HenriksenDolf
    @HenriksenDolf Год назад +64

    I love aggressive hardtails!

  • @andyarchitect
    @andyarchitect 11 месяцев назад +1

    I guessed right! The suspension on the back probably kept the tire in contact with the ground, thereby outweighing the reduction in grip of an XC tire... however confidence on the front is of greater importance, giving the hardtail the win. I bet with a more aggressive front tire on the XC bike the results would reverse.

  • @goatsplitter
    @goatsplitter Год назад +4

    Just picked up an aggressive'ish hardtail in the nukeproof scout. My other bikes are a full suss 27.5+ with less aggressive geo, and a full suss enduro. Im really looking forward to seeing how it compares!

  • @sawdustadikt979
    @sawdustadikt979 Год назад +15

    Wonder how the comparison would have been ridding the same tire. Great video! Love what you guys do here, been watching for many years.

    • @flowstateofmind
      @flowstateofmind Год назад +3

      If you want to test the difference of the bike you should minimze factors that create difference so I absolutely agree. On the other side however these are the tyres you would probably ride on those bikes. Although I think the middle way for both would have been better. Some proper grippy trail tyres that still roll fast on the straight parts.

    • @gmbn
      @gmbn  Год назад +8

      It could be interesting to see if the results change in anyway! We'd have to get Blake out in the wet again though 🤘

    • @robwales5987
      @robwales5987 Год назад +2

      Hardtails are fun!

    • @ifitrollsrideit530
      @ifitrollsrideit530 11 месяцев назад +1

      Definitely agree. Regardless of hardtail or full-sus I think I'd always want 2 sets of wheels now. One with aggressive trail/mud tyres and one with fast XC tyres. Then swap them out based on the weather and the type of riding.
      I'd love to see a bike/£ comparison. You get a lot of bike for your money with a hardtail but is it enough to beat a full-sus? (Hardtail is my only MTB right now).

    • @flowstateofmind
      @flowstateofmind 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@ifitrollsrideit530 only times I take out the fully is when I go to mountains with chunky tech. Also did that on the hardtail and itmight even be more fun but I do find myself to be a little bit slower as I have to push harder to keep up with friends. Does not feel like that though and you can still get good speeds if you know the trail and technique is good.

  • @Flexo_l
    @Flexo_l Год назад +18

    You should swap tires and go again 😛

    • @numbers7905
      @numbers7905 Год назад +3

      Swapping tires on each bike would be fun. Laufey on an XC wheelset vs Oiz with the enduro wheels.

  • @renzarnolf9505
    @renzarnolf9505 Год назад +15

    Nice comparison.. how about hardtail vs full sus xc on long climbs/ uphill?. as I've only got a hardtail, i'm always wandering how capable a full sus xc bike is, which is more efficient on long climbs and which bike is more fun going down,

    • @JeffMTBinVA
      @JeffMTBinVA Год назад +2

      I started with a hardtail that seemed like a mix of XC and trail with its geometry and 130 travel and rode it for years. I made the switch to a full sus trail almost mini Enduro 150/140 and I couldn't be happier. I actually find the full sus easier for uphill. Modern anti squat technology and geometry really help. Plus if I need to I can lock it out but haven't needed to yet. Downhill is where it really shines and will leave you grinning ear to ear. My opinion, move from XC to trail and you won't regret it.

    • @gmbn
      @gmbn  Год назад +5

      It would be interesting to see 🤔 The Oiz does have a full lockout which makes it a climbing machine!

    • @renzarnolf9505
      @renzarnolf9505 Год назад +1

      @@JeffMTBinVA man a 150/140 with a lockout in the back that's a sweet setup you've got. Should be a blast going down. My hardtail build right now is trailish setup with 140mm travel. And on my local trail it's kinda enough. Although there's some section on the trail that sometimes I wish I have a rear shock haha

    • @renzarnolf9505
      @renzarnolf9505 Год назад +3

      @@gmbn as some of us need to pedal long climbs to go on our local trails. It would be interesting to see if a short travel full squish is really faster on climbs than an agressive hardtail.

  • @sickmak90
    @sickmak90 3 месяца назад +1

    I love my Laufey. That Laufey also cost much much less than that carbon Oiz.

  • @ShadLife
    @ShadLife Год назад +8

    I would actually prefer the 67 degree head angle over the 63.5. If you want to talk about skills, riding a 66 or 67 degree head angle is all you need for slackness. I think it's actually the sweet spot in geometry and all you have to do is sharpen your skills a little rather than having a super slack bike that sucks for anything that isn't pointing down.

    • @WilliamLevesqueineX
      @WilliamLevesqueineX Год назад +1

      Depends what you ride. And you also need to go slacker with a HT since it loses slackness as the suspension compresses.

    • @ShadLife
      @ShadLife Год назад +2

      @@WilliamLevesqueineX I have ridden a lot of pretty aggressive trail with my Eskar Hayduke which has. 140mm fork and 66 degree head angle. It doesn't need to be any slacker.

    • @WilliamLevesqueineX
      @WilliamLevesqueineX Год назад +2

      @@ShadLife Looking at where you ride, I dont think you have quite the same kind of riding we do here in Canada (both western and eastern). Trust me, slacker isnt a bad thing for a lot of the stuff here haha.
      My HT has 66deg and a 130mm fork, needs a bit more frankly. Also have a DH bike for lift access stuff :)

    • @ShadLife
      @ShadLife Год назад +2

      @@WilliamLevesqueineX I ride all over the place. Colorado, North Shore, Bentonville, and so on. I also ride BMX bikes with no suspension, 20" wheels and a 75 degree head angle. So yeah, a 27.5 or 29 inch wheel with a 66 degree head angle is plenty slack for shredding most technical DH with a slight exception of probably the gnarliest down hill trails. But those are far and few between. I rode Trestle bike park going 35 or so MPH and had plenty of stability. Super slack is needed for a very limited amount of trails and like I said, with the right amount of skill any rider could shred anything with ease on less slack bikes. The super slack bikes I have ridden only felt good once I was going down hill at a higher speed up 25 MPH plus, otherwise they felt cumbersome to ride.

  • @blairrighton6270
    @blairrighton6270 Год назад +9

    XC is a discipline that involves going UP hills/mountains as well as along and down them so comparing the two examples descending ability is IMO not a thorough examination of which will be quicker overall within the sport. Having said that, Blake said near the end of this presentation that it's really down to rider ability and to a lesser degree what type of terrain you intend to ride on which I wholeheartedly agree with.... on the day it looked like tyre choice was more a crucial factor lol

    • @michaelmann3636
      @michaelmann3636 Год назад +5

      The comparison wasn’t an xc race it was just a downhill section, give Blake a break. After all he is a beautiful person.🤣

  • @newmie911
    @newmie911 Год назад +1

    exactly the two bikes I have in mind to replace my trusty Alma.
    But I'm leaning towards the OIZ, even if the Laufey looks like a lot of fun, but I've covered a lot of kilometers on the Alma and there's still an Occam in the house 🤓.

  • @crashereu7700
    @crashereu7700 3 месяца назад

    i just went on my first ride on the laufey 2023, one word amazing! normally i was scared on my old bike, because i have broken my elbow with it and have gotten cartillage damage from it. the laufey i take hits, jumps and feel almost zero pain in my elbow because of the marzochhi and the 2.6 tyres make me feel save. i would love to get a full suss in the future when i know i wont be getting any pain from taking bigger hits. so my recommendation is, get a laufey!

  • @theymademepickaname1248
    @theymademepickaname1248 Год назад +5

    I like the idea of this video, but the only thing it showed was that the hardtail was slighty better at going downhill in muddy conditions.

  • @HajrhJsjcjus-oe5ek
    @HajrhJsjcjus-oe5ek Год назад +2

    Aggressive Hardtails are much better on the downhill (more front travel, Enduro tires, aggressive long slack geometry...) And the cross country full sus might be faster on the uphill (less travel, lighter, not so slack...)

  • @byggloket2590
    @byggloket2590 9 месяцев назад +1

    Would Blake choose the laufey over the scout? That's a competition😵

  • @Bonky-wonky
    @Bonky-wonky Год назад +1

    Aggressive hardtails are imo mostly suited to tight, low speed janky trails, rather than smashing into things at speed.

  • @Ka0Zltd
    @Ka0Zltd Год назад +12

    I wonder what Blake would pick, Orbea Laufey H10 or Nukeproof Scout 290 Comp, he seems to love both of them.

    • @colincoulthard3021
      @colincoulthard3021 Год назад +1

      The Laufey’s got a few more features than the Scout.

    • @thelittleewokboss9929
      @thelittleewokboss9929 Год назад +3

      Blake loves scout more

    • @Ka0Zltd
      @Ka0Zltd Год назад

      @@thelittleewokboss9929 Yea, was thinking the same

    • @kamasu4222
      @kamasu4222 11 месяцев назад

      Why though? They're extremely similar

  • @fifofifowertyu1711
    @fifofifowertyu1711 Год назад +4

    Hello, would be Laufey 2024 suitable for long distance (commuting)? I understand that gravel would be faster but how about seat postion comfort and speed?

  • @musclesue
    @musclesue Год назад +4

    I have a Orbea oiz and love it , just got a Merida big trail hardtail for winter and I am so impressed and feel really confident on it , this vid was like comparing my 2 bikes ❤ Thank you GMBN

  • @Northernerdownsouth
    @Northernerdownsouth 11 месяцев назад

    I was about to order an Oiz to replace my yeti arc. Decided on a Lapierre Spicy.

  • @rustychain9518
    @rustychain9518 Год назад +3

    My 56 year old knees love my full suspension bike…end of story.

    • @fugoogle9757
      @fugoogle9757 Год назад +1

      my 53 year old knees are yet t xperience the wonders of the FS! love my orbea hardtail especially the goldy paint job!!

  • @furleyforever
    @furleyforever Год назад +1

    I'm seeing the Z2 on a lot of aggressive HT's these days, my rig included.

    • @kamasu4222
      @kamasu4222 11 месяцев назад

      Good fork?

    • @furleyforever
      @furleyforever 11 месяцев назад

      @@kamasu4222 I like mine. Hardly ever adjust it. Maybe that's what makes it so popular. Also, it's affordable if not a little on the heavier side compared to other mid-tier forks.

  • @JontePonte
    @JontePonte Год назад +3

    No one gonna talk about how high Blake jumped in the thumbnail?

    • @gmbn
      @gmbn  Год назад +2

      It's very majestic!

  • @kamasu4222
    @kamasu4222 11 месяцев назад

    We need a comparison of the nukeproof scout vs orbea laufey, similar price point & geometry

  • @XAVIERFally
    @XAVIERFally Год назад +1

    Nice video. I am intreted by the wheels on the Laufey are those custom build SPANK cause they are not the wheels that comes with the bike and I can not find them on Spank website ether?

  • @jl3567
    @jl3567 4 месяца назад

    I love when Blake says I am beautiful

  • @HerrKarliseppel
    @HerrKarliseppel Год назад

    Ha.... a test with a Laufey.... I love mine 😎....Upgraded the brakes...now its nearly perfect

    • @fugoogle9757
      @fugoogle9757 Год назад +1

      is it gold tho.. way more zingy than the dark purple..!

    • @HerrKarliseppel
      @HerrKarliseppel Год назад

      @@fugoogle9757 jep.... gold 😅

  • @darius2640
    @darius2640 Год назад +1

    Hardcore hardtails sound good on paper but I have test riden many of them through my riding buddies and swaping from full sus to hardtaill feels like going from mercedes G63 amg to a lada niva, capable maybe, but they feel like they will shatter your spine and bones from harshness, very unrefined and unsettling

  • @vladimirbudinsky4056
    @vladimirbudinsky4056 Год назад +2

    I love Blake´s videos with hardtail bikes!

  • @Pittibarlin
    @Pittibarlin 11 месяцев назад

    I prefer hardtails. Previous two bikes have been full sus, now I'm back to a hardtail again. It must just be something about me but I just have way more fun on a hardtail, I feel better and more confident riding them too. With my last two full sus bikes I spent more time riding them with the rear suspension locked anyway so the added weight was pretty much pointless.
    I guess it's like cars, some like fwd, some like 4wd, some like rwd. They all have their own advantages and disadvantages. I drive a rwd, I like to get the back end out now and again - legally of course 😉

  • @Andy_ATB
    @Andy_ATB Год назад +3

    PFP has won the last two XCO Worlds on a Hardtail.......

  • @davidgeiger8620
    @davidgeiger8620 Год назад

    I had the stif squatch.My experience is.Numbers are just numbers. Steep seattube angles more than 75 on hardtails are nonsense. On flatter trails this hardtails ride akward,Your shoulders and upper body are more stressed.Not to forget that the angles steepen in sag on a hardtail!!
    I went back to the scout v3,just perfekt,as my body is well put in the bike.
    On full suspension steeper seattubes make sense as the bike flattens its angles on sag.

  • @wesr1409
    @wesr1409 Год назад +3

    Love hardtails I will always choose my hardtail over my full suspension when possible.. this video whats price difference between the 2? Have to think that hardtail is significantly less expensive.

    • @Pittibarlin
      @Pittibarlin 11 месяцев назад +1

      The Laufey is round about £600 in the UK, the Oiz is roughly £2,000.
      So you could buy the Laufey, stick a good dropper on it, upgrade/add a few things and still have spent half the money.
      If someone offered me either bike right now on the proviso I could never sell it, I'd take the Laufey anyway. I'll always be team hardtail.

  • @phillipstewart2031
    @phillipstewart2031 8 месяцев назад

    Blake is such a rider

  • @mister_ray
    @mister_ray Год назад

    Way more time is spent climbing so I would have preferred seeing that comparison. Something like a Trek Supercaliber is the sweet spot of XC bikes.

    • @danvalicek
      @danvalicek Год назад

      This comparison is obsolete, a hardtail is always faster than a fully when climbing.

  • @flagg6949
    @flagg6949 Год назад +2

    My Laufey frame is now sat to the side after moving all the components to a Nukeproof Reactor frame. The Reactor frame is much more forgiving but the Laufey frame was amazing to ride

    • @MightyFireL
      @MightyFireL Год назад

      Funny, I own a Laufey and a Reactor too 😁

  • @GreatGoal23
    @GreatGoal23 Год назад +1

    Great video 👍

  • @chipangaiantv9375
    @chipangaiantv9375 8 месяцев назад

    I love this channel 🇿🇼

  • @The_Blessed_Cowboy
    @The_Blessed_Cowboy 2 месяца назад

    I rode Revelstoke BC on my XC hardtail with Fox 32s. People were definitely looking at me with judgement..like, who TF is this guy? I'm the guy thats gonna shred this mountain like Mofo!!

  • @betasub
    @betasub 10 месяцев назад

    You seem to like the Orbea at GMBN, and especially the Laufey. I have a question. With efficient tires, does it climb well? Is it possible to do epic ride with it. And the next week end change the tires and go to the bikepark? Is it at this level of polyvalence?
    Thank you so much :D

  • @nevwaterson1327
    @nevwaterson1327 Год назад

    What about the fall, did you do a re run?
    Good job mate. Next one do in the dry. 👍

  • @tomalleeson4573
    @tomalleeson4573 Год назад

    So good. Thanks!

  • @zoomzoomgt
    @zoomzoomgt 18 дней назад

    But realistically. If u wanna put in to perspective in $ terms. That oiz cost $1-1500 not 2k+ more than the laufey just to beat it by sub 1 second. So laufey wins by far more. In terms of $.
    But gr8 footage luv that rear mud clip

  • @tabavideos8668
    @tabavideos8668 11 месяцев назад

    Sir. try Kens tyrann x2 or Kens tyrann x3 Hardtail frame made in philippines you try to enduro ans jumps..

  • @ListenToThrice
    @ListenToThrice Год назад

    Harking back to the mixed tire videos, have you considered doing a mullet gravel bike?

  • @madtownangler
    @madtownangler Год назад +3

    The last time I rode a full suspensíon was over twenty years ago but what I remember was that I could ride the bike longer than a hard tail so in the long run going down ski hills the full suspension even though it was kinda crappy (Pro Flex with elastomer) I was less beat up after a four hour ride down using a chairlift to go up.
    I have only owned one full suspension bike in my life but from my little experience I would say if you can afford it I would go with a limited travel full suspension bike for everyday trail riding.

    • @simonm1447
      @simonm1447 Год назад

      Personally I only own hardtails, but I was invited by a mate on a trail to ride a FS E bike recently. Compared to my hardtail it was like a flying carpet, it had much more travel than my XC hardtail and you could go much faster over obstackes. The bike had a smooth Fox 38 fork which alone costs more than my whole XC bike.
      It was a completely different way of riding the bike, though my harddtail is likely more efficient on longer climbs compared with a non electric FS bike with that much travel

  • @enriquehernandez155
    @enriquehernandez155 Год назад

    I have a question !
    Dose Down hill requiere strong wrist and a good gripe😮
    I have only been riding xc and gravel😮.

  • @overseer_grimal
    @overseer_grimal Год назад

    I am curious to see how well this Orbea pedals. The standard tires are 2.6, which is not very agile.

    • @fugoogle9757
      @fugoogle9757 Год назад +1

      i have no problamas pedlin uphill on my orbea

  • @underatree375
    @underatree375 11 месяцев назад +1

    You should register with that mustache.

  • @sselh
    @sselh Год назад

    tyres are different though.. and the barzos don't grip the best from experience

  • @ulrikmortensen9426
    @ulrikmortensen9426 Год назад +2

    I love telemarketing😂😂😂😂😂

  • @David.Maughan
    @David.Maughan 11 месяцев назад

    How good would these videos be with a side-by-side POV camera? Hint hint

  • @bashfpv6244
    @bashfpv6244 Год назад +1

    Best thumbnail 2023🎉🎉

  • @maxdesancha6025
    @maxdesancha6025 Год назад

    Been waiting for this video for ages!!

    • @gmbn
      @gmbn  Год назад +1

      Did it live up to your expectations?

    • @maxdesancha6025
      @maxdesancha6025 Год назад

      Yea! Was great! Keen to see the matchup again at Dyfi though 😅@@gmbn

  • @master9658
    @master9658 4 месяца назад

    just putt xc tyres to hardttail trail and downhill time will be the same, but how about uphill or flat terrain? hardtail ttrail is beter xc than sttandard xc bike

  • @trailwomanrc
    @trailwomanrc Год назад

    Thumbnail like Sho Kosugi!

  • @parkinkevin
    @parkinkevin Год назад +3

    What was the point in that. Of course the bike with the better tyres is faster 😒

  • @540isilver
    @540isilver 3 месяца назад

    I love a hard tail. But it's alot more comfortable on a full suspension bike

  • @88davidw
    @88davidw Год назад

    Love B-Lake!

  • @JAvellino669
    @JAvellino669 Год назад +3

    Perfect timing! I was literally looking at a FS XC bike yesterday and comparing it to a hardtail. Result? I have a new Norco Torrent S2.
    A continuation of this video would be interesting. Add in smooth and techy climbs, maybe some jumps, and see what happens.

    • @gmbn
      @gmbn  Год назад +1

      Good choice! Happy we could be of service, how does the bike feel?

    • @strangedays1984
      @strangedays1984 Год назад

      Let me know how the s2 is I am thinking of getting the same as is $1875AU here 45% off…

  • @simonvanpraet6543
    @simonvanpraet6543 Год назад

    Nicolai GLF for the win!

  • @ivostarmans1199
    @ivostarmans1199 Год назад

    The Orbea xc fully looks like a 2018 Specialized Epic

  • @and2244rew
    @and2244rew Год назад

    Ouch, my “all mountain” bike has a 67 degree head angle.

  • @7654321asdq
    @7654321asdq Год назад

    Forgot to wear tight lycra with the xc bike

  • @chrisridesbicycles
    @chrisridesbicycles Год назад

    For me the question is on the seat angle. I have both types of bike and I often feel the super steep seat angle of hardcore hardtails is heavy on the knees if you are pedalling in the saddle for a longer time.

    • @gravelben
      @gravelben 8 месяцев назад

      I agree, I think some trail hardtails are going too far with extra long reach and steep seat tube angles now making them compromised for anything that isn't really steep up/down. Its like some designers just copied fashionable enduro geometry numbers without considering that a hardtail gets longer and steeper as it sags, while a full-sus does the opposite. My 140mm hardtail has a 75.5 deg seat tube and I wouldn't want it any steeper.

  • @Magnus.jansson83
    @Magnus.jansson83 Год назад

    Is Blake trying to create a drinking game by saying hatdtail as often as possible? 😂

  • @oiyo5124
    @oiyo5124 11 месяцев назад

    ride rigid. thinking about 66 below rigid fork.

  • @WTHuck-
    @WTHuck- Год назад

    This literally is the best topic.

  • @odinfineartcreations9898
    @odinfineartcreations9898 Год назад

    Hey Blake love the videos, I recently started getting back into cycling after 10 years off the saddle.
    What are peoples thoughts on the 2015 norco storm 7.1, Id love to know what upgrades you would make, everything on the bike seems to be original parts so I'm replacing a lot and upgrading where I can and afford.
    So far I've done:
    - brake pads and rotors, swapped them over to galfer rotors and galfer advanced.
    - new Pedals jet black alloy
    - more robust inner tubes
    Will eventually replace wheels and tires so I can go tubeless and replace the front forks to something with more travel. Riding conditions are country Victoria Australia very dusty and rocky as well as steep and hilly, xc/enduro style.

  • @AK-ContentCreatIon
    @AK-ContentCreatIon Год назад

    hmmm not the same tires.... that's a bummer... how could you compare that...there is more difference in the traction and all ...senseless...just an orbea add... love both bikes. orbea is one of the nicest brands

  • @trailriders6876
    @trailriders6876 Год назад +1

    would be nice to have a 3rd bike in the comparism - enduro or all mountain full sus - for this kind of terrain in order to set the benchmark.... I love your hardtail content, more videos like this one please.

  • @alexh.4068
    @alexh.4068 Год назад

    Need control tires, yeah.

  • @jamiewilliams4506
    @jamiewilliams4506 Год назад

    Where was you riding blake

    • @fugoogle9757
      @fugoogle9757 Год назад +1

      forest of dean wd be my guess..

  • @JackMott
    @JackMott Год назад +3

    Comparing two bikes.... with different tires. WAT

  • @MTBEAST007
    @MTBEAST007 Год назад +1

    And next we will test an f1 car on ice vs an old Skoda on the road. Oooo there's only 1 second in it,. Is the Skoda faster? Yes it is. FFS at least test on the same tyres in the same weather.

    • @fugoogle9757
      @fugoogle9757 Год назад

      sarcasm. the lowest form of wit...

    • @MTBEAST007
      @MTBEAST007 Год назад +1

      @fugoogle9757 no...that's just a dumb saying that sheep believe in.

  • @2stroke540
    @2stroke540 Год назад

    Ooooh ooooh, another hardtail video. I fricken love these!! 🤣🤣

  • @the_spanner_ch7mp
    @the_spanner_ch7mp Год назад

    Great video Blake 🤘
    Both those bikes 🤤🔥

  • @Shawn-in-da-Canyon
    @Shawn-in-da-Canyon Год назад

    It would drive me crazy to live somewhere, where it’s wet all the time!

    • @fugoogle9757
      @fugoogle9757 Год назад

      u get t really appreciate dry trails when it does seem t rain a heckofa lot!

  • @JohnBrownlow
    @JohnBrownlow 11 месяцев назад

    Just bizarre to do a comparison of XC bikes and not have any climbing in there. What?

  • @Froggy-jn9mu
    @Froggy-jn9mu 11 месяцев назад

    Tires matter.....My Honda Element with good snow tires will beat any Ford Raptor with mud tires in a snowstorm. How do I know? Lol.....I have experienced that raptor in the ditch many times and asked if he needed a ride. Tires tires tires!

  • @whispering_pines
    @whispering_pines Год назад

    Apparently there is no difference between a ‘trail ‘ and an old drainage ditch in that part of the world. 😂😂

  • @joeydirty6112
    @joeydirty6112 Год назад

    I find on my home trail, lots of old school single track, roots and short punchy climbs the Supercaliber was hands down faster than my Procaliber SL! On the Procal, I need to pick my lines and the SC I don’t. The Procal climbs incredibly easy but so does the SC. I feel the Procal is only faster on straight/flat spots. The Supercal is an all around beast! Funny thing is, I had a 19 Top Fuel and I felt that was faster, but Strava says the Supercal is faster!

  • @worldstallestmidget
    @worldstallestmidget Год назад

    You lost me with no motor and no suspension! 😅😅😅😅😅

  • @GeorgeSwinney
    @GeorgeSwinney Год назад

    Love the vids ❤❤❤

  • @johndef5075
    @johndef5075 Год назад +1

    I dont ride in mud so its kinda pointless to me😅

    • @fugoogle9757
      @fugoogle9757 Год назад

      ur a lucky bleeder so! if ur N european then mud is what there is for much of the year.. alas.

  • @ZOB4
    @ZOB4 Год назад +2

    Ahh yes, nothing tests an XC race bike quite like a sub-one minute downhill course.

  • @fpeter01
    @fpeter01 Год назад +1

    I think most people would be competely satisfied with a trail hardtail. Fullsus is way too complicated and maintanence is pain in the ass.

  • @METEORA_47
    @METEORA_47 Год назад

    Oooo yeahhhh!!because hardcore hardtail 🤘🔥🤘

  • @MLeo0
    @MLeo0 Год назад +1

    Hardtails all day!!!

  • @Notaprofessionalvideo
    @Notaprofessionalvideo Год назад

    Should of had a carbon hardtail

    • @ifitrollsrideit530
      @ifitrollsrideit530 11 месяцев назад

      Not many hardcore hardtails with a carbon frame unfortunately. Lot's of XC to pick from but not much in the

    • @Notaprofessionalvideo
      @Notaprofessionalvideo 11 месяцев назад

      @@ifitrollsrideit530 True but they were comparing two different type of bikes. A carbon everything hardtail is super fast

  • @plokmko0
    @plokmko0 Год назад

    Is biker's tea like builder's tea ?

    • @fugoogle9757
      @fugoogle9757 Год назад

      bikers tea has a splash of the old uisce baugh in it!

  • @johndef5075
    @johndef5075 Год назад

    Like comparing a Harley to a mx bike.

  • @zwyczajnypiotr
    @zwyczajnypiotr Год назад

    👌

  • @yugen0o
    @yugen0o 2 месяца назад

    What is with the obsession over 'in-frame storage'? Is this a you can 'Put Your Weed In It' retro-meme? And why are you comparing 'XC' oriented bikes on a 'downhill' track... with different tires even?

  • @MaksUkr
    @MaksUkr 4 месяца назад

    Tires 😂😂😂

  • @przemyslawgawel8501
    @przemyslawgawel8501 Год назад

    26 inch with more/better suspension will beat 29 inch.

  • @davidgeiger8620
    @davidgeiger8620 Год назад

    I am disappointed about this video.
    The ideas are running out?😅

  • @PeterPutz82
    @PeterPutz82 Год назад

    OMG, why do I watch this infomercial shite. I'm not getting that time back.